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The distinction between meditation and contemplation. Summarizes how our confusion is created by ego in defense of our existence. The purpose of meditation is not to destroy our neuroses or attain enlightenment; we are coming to terms with our confusion first. Even if we avoid looking at who we are, we are haunted by a feeling that something is missing. Meditation is not filling that void, or an escape, but getting into the nitty gritty of our neuroses.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 12 2024 to May 02 2025 Transcribing: JP Glutting Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Blaire Martin, Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout the approach to meditation practice. The distinction between meditation and contemplation. Summarizes how our confusion is created by ego in defense of our existence. The purpose of meditation is not to destroy our neuroses or attain enlightenment; we are coming to terms with our confusion first. Even if we avoid looking at who we are, we are haunted by a feeling that something is missing. Meditation is not filling that void, or an escape, but getting into the nitty gritty of our neuroses.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/552/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344958","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-cl48lx.mpga"]},"duration":6134.13013,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/552/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759344958","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/552/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-cl48lx.mpga?1759343389","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":6134.13013,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720224VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720224VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1972 - Class 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado Classes 1972, held in Boulder. This is class number six, The Application of Meditation: First Stage, held February 24th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=0.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=21.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We were going to discuss on introduction to meditation. It seems that it is important to know the actual application of meditation, in terms with the meditator. In other word, the basis of meditation had to be worked with the meditator. Without that you have no meditation at all. Let's look into the definition of \"meditation.\" Meditation is-- in this case has connection with the Sanskrit word \"samadhi\" or \"bhava.\" \"Bhava\" means \"becoming.\" [Whispering] Thank you. And \"bhavana\" means \"absorption.\" Samadhi means being in the state of that what is. Being in the state of that what is, is could be said as definition of samadhi. So from that point of view, bhavana of getting into a certain particular practice, identifying with a practice, and samadhi principle of seeing things as they are, in other word, are complementary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=41.0,225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe we should get into the another aspect of contemplation and meditation, and prayer and so forth. That contemplation is contemplating on particular subject, particular topic -- pondering on it, pondering over it, and experiencing it, getting into the details of it, which belongs to the categories of visualization. You visualize historical symbolism, historical theme. Like, such practice does exist in the Benedictine-- Catholic monastic order of Benedictine, that going through the scene of crucifixion or the resurrection, almost like a cinema show, like a literal sequence that takes place. And man's mind is that case worked towards a fundamental concept or idea, that you are pondering or you are contemplating on a sacred subject, sacred topic. So there's no problem with the conscience at all. You could elaborate anything with your visualization of sequence of resurrection or sequence of crucifixion, or what have you, virgin birth, what have you. You could go into it elaborately, use your imagination as much as possible, to the extent that you can forget where you are actually sitting or standing. You become part of that prehistoric, so to speak, medieval setup, you are one of the medieval persons who observing crucifixion or resurrection, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=225.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's contemplation, is using the imagination of human mind, accordance with the scriptures, accordance with historical case, trying to fit yourself into it. Because the topics that you introduced in that situation is a sacred topic. In this case sacred means because it clears your conscience. If certain person had a very imaginative mind and they contemplate on sex orgy, what have you, then it is regarded as-- is sin, or bad thing to do, because it is not sacred thing. It's something terrible, something in accordance with your desire, your sexual fantasies, and everything. So that-- it is not regarded as contemplation, but that's regarded as fantasy. But distinctions are mere concepts, from that point of view. You could contemplate on the orgy of crucifixion [laughs], or the resurrection, what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=361.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Contemplation is highly affected by the concept of basic philosophy, metaphysical ideas, theology, and so on. Therefore contemplation is regarded as way of getting your discursive mind into holy theme, holy object, sacred object, which has lot of things to do with holiness or sacredness. And the very existence of idea of holiness as sacredness is also based on a concept, of course. Then we have to get into what is holy, what is not holy, what particular person is sanctified as saint in the Catholic tradition, what particular person is not sanctified as saint in the Catholic tradition, and so on. That you have to go through the whole hierarchical structure of administration, of red tape, from the Vatican. Whole thing is based on that kind of concept, basic idea of concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=456.0,542.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation, on the other hand, is not contemplation, at all -- particularly from the Buddhist point of view of meditation. Maybe mere word \"meditation\" is wrong, but we don't seem to have a better word than that. It's just \"meditation\", rather than \"meditate\" -- we do meditation, but we don't meditate on anything. Meditation happens, we don't meditate *on* anything as a subject-object relationship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=542.0,594.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The background of meditation, connection with the meditat*or* is concerned, that you have confused mind to begin with, mind that doesn't know what to do -- what is beginning, what is the end, become absolutely bewildered, no idea of how to begin, how to stop. Thought process goes on all the time, confusion goes on all the time. So, absolutely hopeless to do anything with our mind, absolutely useless -- it seems. But the point is, taking up that uselessness is stepping-stone, is meditation. That confusion is starting point to meditation. That we don't have to get our mind clear, or we don't have to space out, so to speak, or we don't have to become a worthy person as such, at all. Just applying to the actual existence pattern of mind, the basic confusion of mind, which provides a starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=594.0,667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when we discuss about ego structure, last-- at the beginning of the course, that has tremendous bearing with the meditation practice as well. That meditat*or*, so to speak, has complexity of its pattern of mind. Fundamentally, we want to prove our existence as \"myself\", human being. To begin with, there is uncertainty of whether we could prove our existence or not, is always problematic in our state of mind. And then because of frustration of not be able to prove ourselves as what we are, or what we are not, you put out all kind of vibrations of rejecting certain things and accepting certain things -- rejecting violently, excluding altogether; accepting very violently, grasping altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=667.0,752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So now we have the bewilderment of uncertainty of who we are, and in order to maintain that confusion, we have to make best of that confusion as our personality. In order to maintain personality as such, we have to become respectable person. In order to become respectable person, we have to select certain things, we have to choose \"what is good for me, what is bad for me.\" So we choose bad for me is-- we reject, we exorcize completely, altogether. What is good for me is we grasp, we hold on to it. It's not so much what is good for me, what is bad for me, is hang-up, but the style and way we do it is extremely neurotic. That particular style becomes hang-up in itself, rather than the object of the style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=752.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not only that but then, beyond that particular situation, we tend to put out all kinds of way to escape that painful ordeal that we go on all the time. In order to escape from the painful ordeal, that the best mechanism that we could put out is put out all kinds of fantasies, dig out from the subconscious or what have you. That's what is called thought process, mind process. Definition of mind in this case is \"that which manipulates situations\" is definition of mind. That which perceive to the given situation, and trying to manipulate that given situation, is definition of mind from that point of view. Could be said as consciousness, if you like to call it. It's not consciousness of fundamentally being conscious, like certain terms crop up, in terms of \"cosmic conscious\" or other consciousness that we talk about, \"higher consciousness.\" But this kind of consciousness is a domesticated consciousness, which purely relate with the actual given situations, defend oneself and reject situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=823.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, grasping or passion, or rejecting or aggression, are same. And those situation act as limbs of our body. In order to function our limbs of our body, we have to have the circulation and feeling of our body as well at same time. And the circulation and the feelings of our-- those limbs are the thought process. That there is all kinds of thought process which act as a padding towards-- between the two situations, between the maintaining the basic dogma of grasping and rejecting. In order to maintain those situations we have to also run through the circulation of our process of our body, in this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=920.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have the situation of maintaining aggression and passion is a thought process. Discursive thought process or video-type thought process or grasshopper-like thought process, which only picks up the highlights. And then there's drunken-elephant-type thoughts, which sways from one direction, another direction, just magnetize by the situations. And all of the thought process could be regarded as commentator, in this case. Commentator with the different types of mentality. Commentator who takes the highlights as theme; or commentator who takes the magnetic situation of what is need to be fulfilled as theme, like drunken elephant; or commentator who, purely based on this logic on the visual situation; or commentator who purely relies its maintenance of into the discursive situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=992.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So all kinds of different thoughts, busy, trying to maintain yourself. Basically trying to maintain your basic ground of mind, which contains the aggression and the passion, the circulation, the blood system, what have you. So meditation, this case, is not trying to destroy all of those structures, at all. Meditation not particularly geared for destroy aggression, or passion, or for that matter discursive thoughts at all. Meditation is geared for trying to come to some agreement with those restless mind, monkey mind, that goes on between the basic issue and the issue which related with maintaining itself. 00:19:16]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1079.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, let's put the problem on the table, so to speak. What are we going to do if we're going to meditate? We have a tremendous problem of fundamental neurosis mind, neurotic mind, which is extraordinarily aggressive, and because it is extraordinarily aggressive, we have also extraordinary passion, grasping situation as well, that we become extraordinarily selective. As far as our world is concerned, there's only two world is involved: one is pushing off, one is pulling in. That's basic problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1158.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's not only problem -- if it's simple as that, there's no problem at all dealing with that. But then we begin to discover if you try to get into those two factors of actual situations, that we even can't get near to these situation, these problems at all, because our discursive thoughts and other thoughts are so busy. We are trying to push through certain very crowded problems, like in a big hall of-- if you're trying to get to the audi-- to the speaker, if you want to shake hand of the speaker, you can't do it because so many crowded people crowd around the speaker, you can't get through the crowd. Precisely like that, if we found aggression is obviously aggression, passion is obviously passion, I mean there's no doubt about that. But if you want to get *to* it, we can't get to it, there's so many disturbances, interferences, which keeps us away from it all the time. So we can't really rest or relax at all, from that point of view. There is no room for meditation, none whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1221.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic idea of samadhi idea, in this case meditation, is not reject all those crowds, but bring another factor, the attitude towards the situation. If we become too overcrowded, naturally we want to reject the whole thing, we want to get rid of the crowd, step out of it, but we can't, impossible. Wherever we go a crowd follows us, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1302.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And get some basic clear perception is needed. That crowd situation of mind is a product of a dream, product of fantasy, pure fantasy. Because of those fantasies, fantasy begin to take us over. We become the victim of the fantasy, in other word. So we can't get rid of it at all, because we are part of the fantasy. There's no way out at all, none whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1353.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But maybe we could look on another direction. How about bodily situation, physical situation -- eating, sleeping, walking, talking, breathing? However we may be crowded, we seem to do those things, basically. At least we tend to breathe all the time, however crowded we may be, but we breathe all the time. So let's take that as example. Now take the breathing as example. If we are upset, or if we are overcrowded, if we are confused, we still use our body, we still breathe, we still live on the breathing. So that's very important point, that breathing is choosed [sic] as basic way of starting practice of meditation. Is just use your breathing, you sure breathe all the time, anyway. You don't have to re-create your breath. You don't have to do anything with it at all, breathing happens all the time. So start on the breathing. Use that as the basic way of relating with your meditation technique, practice. And we walk -- relate with that movement of your body. And we eat -- relate with that actual living situation, which is quite free of a dream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1397.0,1524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic meditation practice from that point of view is not trying to attain higher goals or greater enlightenment state, what have you, at all. Just comes to terms with neurosis of the mind. So that is introduction to meditation that I wanted to express. Is the meditation is not trying to get into higher cosmic consciousness, or meditation not trying to become Buddha, or anything like that at all. Before we get into those fancy things, we have to be what we are, we have to be-- we have to build our foundation. We are not in the position to do anything of the other things, none whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1524.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We may regard ourselves as a relatively sane person. \"I go out to my job, I get up early in the morning, I cook meal myself, and relate with our-- my friends well, and I pay my insurance, I pay my bills, I clean my clothes, I get regular haircut, what have you. Take a shower or so.\" [Laughs] \"I'm regu-- I'm, more or less, good person. [Laughter] I do the things that my mummy told you to do, my daddy told you to do. I do them all. [Laughter] Only thing I need is I have to learn more. I want to become somebody. If I get married, how to feed my kids, my wife. It becomes necessity. But that's problem, but on the other hand, everything is okay, what I'm doing now. Everything is fine. I'm good boy, I'm good girl.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1570.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's okay. Nothing wrong with that. *But*... [laughter] something else. We don't want to look into ourselves, what we are, who we are, how we are actually relating with the world, exactly. We don't do at all. Each time such topic comes up in our mind, we says, \"Oh, that's for the philosophers\" or \"That's for the cats, or the dogs, or the birds. Something irritating about it, but nevertheless, nothing to do with me at all. Doesn't concern me, as long as I live, regular person.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1678.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a slight distortion somewhere, that we don't get to the heart of the matter, at all. We just float along, slide along. Middle of our metaphysical contemplation, telephone rings, friends invite us, then take a shower and putting on clothes and go to it, attend the party. And the whole evening goes away. \"Phew -- that's very close shave, but got rid of that irritation. Friends invite me for party, or go to the cinema,\" what have you. Constantly we just about to get into this something, somewhere, little-- some sense of roughness, some kind of irritation is involved. But at same time we manage to slide along, above it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1744.0,1811.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that kind of is the problem, which happens all the time, that we are not quite sure actually what we are. But we sure what we are, conventionally, all the time, we do the regular things. It's constantly trying to build masks. All the time we put constant paddings on, constant masks on us, all the time. That's actual application meditation needed from that point of view -- to dig up unpleasant things, face with all these irritating things, get to the root. If you want to become regular person, be completely regular person, hundred-percent or two-hundred-percent regular person, everything is cleaned out, everything is looked into, so you become indestructible person, rather than just trying to push off all these underneath things and just brushing over it. That seem to be the problem, usually what happens, that when you want-- when you find something irritating, something that we feel we can't work-- we can't look into it, we don't really look into it but we brush off with something else. And usually the situation comes very conveniently -- friends drops in, telephone calls, writing letter to your friend, doing-- going out and do some hobby. Sculpturing, writing poetry, going to the concert or attend-- seeing cinema, what have you. All kinds of things begin to crop up. Very conveniently actually happens. It's well planned, well timed. Nobody knows who does it. Somewhat happens on the spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1811.0,1931.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it seems that there's more stumbling blocks to build-- made-- build, underneath the whole thing. That it's nice to go to cinema, occasionally, meet with friends, weekends with the parents, is nice. It's just nice. But it's not satisfactory, exactly. Something isn't looked into, actually. Some point one never knows who's destroying who -- whether we are destroying ourselves or whether somebody else destroying ourselves. [UNCLEAR: Sudden? Certain?] questions begin to arise. Then we get extremely depressed. Go out and take acid, maybe some answer for that. Share group of friends with sharing joint, listen to music. Do all kinds of things. Take a trip to India, [laughter] Japan. Go to the continent, see your cultural heritage. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=1931.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's no doubt we can do all kinds of things, but still, is this regard as treatment, or it is regard as escape? Sooner or later we have to come home, anyway. Meditation from this point is, therefore, as I mentioned already, not trying to get higher or greater person, become Buddha, but it is seeing these situations, seeing these problems and facing them, directly, fearlessly, getting into it thoroughly, completely. That seem to be the basic idea of meditation. There's no magic in it at all, no gadgets in it at all, but just looking underneath us, looking the-- that of secret which irritates us all the time, but we don't talk to our friends anymore. \"Something's bugging me, but still, it's too personal to talk about.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2036.0,2121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's something hidden, something irritating underneath us, all the time. Meditation is the-- you could use symbolism of operation to tear these situations out and bring into the open. Looked into these hidden situations, revealing them out, bring them out into the open. So that we don't regard whole situation of irritation is a sin or pain or embarrassment, but it is something that we could work on it. So without those irritations, meditation cannot be practiced. And meditation is a way of relating with those hidden situations, underneath thing what goes on, besides the cultural collections or learning, or gathering more words, or whatever have you. It's actually getting to nitty-gritty of the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2121.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation does not supposed to make you happy, particularly, for that matter, or sad. Just a way of actually facing the facts of our basic psychological patterns as it is. That seem to be the basic approach to meditation. As I have already mentioned, the basic psychological structure that involve with meditation is dealing with those thought process, to begin with, then getting down to the limbs -- aggression and passion -- then fundamentally, finally, getting into the confusion and everything. That seem to be the starting point of meditation. And as far as the details concerned, we have something like three talks on meditation, four talks on meditation, in next few weeks. And we could go into great details of the first application of meditation practice, as a concentration practice, and then awareness practice or what have you. We could get into the great detail as we go along. But I would like to-- you to know that the fundamentals of meditation, basic idea of meditation is facing facts of getting realistic in living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions now, questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2190.0,2288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In meditation, do we seek out these problems or do we wait for them to surface until we have a problem and then cope with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, meditation is opening yourself, so the problems bubble up, constantly. So you don't create problems, especially, but problems are there already, so we're just acknowledging them. As far as the different techniques of that, we have to discuss next week or so. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2288.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Would you say that psychotherapeutic techniques that-- are similar to meditation, or rather are they immersing yourself in the confusion and the noise of the crowd?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there are all kinds of therapeutic practices, which we can't really make a generalization of the whole thing. It very much depends on individual style of the doctor and patient. But basically if we regarded as whole thing as analyzing the case history, there's a tendency that you can't change your past, so therefore you are trapped in the present. And there's too much active mind and paranoias involved. So that the fundamental answer is not being-- question not be answered properly. In the general popular sense of therapeutic practices are continual confusion, but maybe some particularly enlightened person's style may be different, so we can't condemn the whole thing, or recommend the whole thing. It depends on individual, but as long as there's ambition is involved, you see, of that you want to get better, that you are sick person, you want to get better, then that is already planting seed of sickness in you already. So you can't get better, because getting better is also being sick as well at same time from that point of view. So it's endless ordeal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well don't in a way-- don't we start with a meditative technique or with meditation, in a sense of-- not so much in a sense of \"No, I say I'm sane, you know, I'm a good person, I do all these regular things all the time, every day.\" But don't you start it more in the sense of \"There are things underneath, underlying, there are neuroses in my mind that I want to come to terms with, to be more, not know myself, but to *be* myself\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's a very revolutionary idea, actually. I mean you might come to that conclusion, but a lot of other people don't, you know. There's always the conventional attitude happening all the time. And what you said sounds very special. [Laughs] Probably very few people share your ideas. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2322.0,2515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What did you say while the problem is coming to the surface and you really don't think that you have the strength to deal with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that sounds like you are deliberately thinking in terms of warfare. We don't have to-- we don't have to destroy them, we don't have to really try to suppress them, get rid of them particularly, at all. Whatever comes up, that's beautiful, and have to work on that situation as the working base rather than trying to look for alternative situations. I mean, the sense of ambition is problematic this case, of accomplishing something or achieving something is becomes a problem that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So, it would be better to accept it than just to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, accept in the sense of not naive philosophically, but accept their qualities as they are, and put them into microscope and look into it. Had to be very intelligent way of looking at it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So that you wouldn't waste your energy dealing with your neurotic [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you gain your energy from it, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2515.0,2608.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What causes the basic bewilderment of who we are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You been asking that many times. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE] important.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What causes basic bewilderment?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Of who we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The possibilities of that not finding anything, which is a terrifying thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But if to start with there's no ego, why should it be terrifying? I mean what starts the whole ego process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, start with nothingness, of course. But then you begin to become conscious of the nothingness. That's the brink of that situation is you give birth to duality, or ego. Whenever you become aware of the nothingness, that's the starting point. It's the same analogy of crocodile biting its own tail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2608.0,2697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mentioned that sometimes these problems come to our conscious mind and produce depression because we don't cope with them but we're just trying to escape from them. Do you attribute all depression to these type of problems?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't cope with them, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, is that what causes all depression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, depression is, actually… deliberately ignoring the energy that there is, which you don't want to get into it. There's nothing that we can't cope with it, at all, since it is our own makeup, therefore it will be obvious, that we can cope with it. But depression is can't be bothered, that you don't want to look into the details. Because of that, therefore, there's constant feeling of that you have a sense of a pain that you might discover from on the process of looking into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, there's no really such thing as depression as concrete thing, you see, but the depression is a very intelligent one, actually. Depression is not at all ignorant or confused one, from that point of view. Of course it comes from bewilderment basically, trying to prove who you are, but at the same time depression is not really depression as we talk about it, \"down.\" You can't be completely down. There's some sense of laziness, that you might be able to do something, but the same time you really don't want to do it. I know what is an intelligent thing to do, but at the same time you can't be bothered to it, because you might have to give up that cozy situation of laziness, which is actually depression.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also another aspect of depression is that you are just about to discover something, and you don't want to break through it. Subconsciously you feel hesitate to break through it, you feel the consequence of it, so you feel depressed, you don't want to go through it. But you have sense of that you might go through it, if you did go through it you might come through it, but we don't want look into that at all because for the very fact you are just happy as you are, relatively speaking, or miserable as you are, relatively speaking. [Laughs] In other word, the miserable-- the misery is regarded as occupation, from the point of view of depression. Is voluntarily that you choose miserable-- the misery as an occupation is depression from that point of view. So we could say the definition of depression is voluntarily dwelling in the depression, and the misery is a definition of depression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are these problems obvious, though?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obvious? Yes, always. Otherwise we wouldn't experience it. Whenever we experience a problem it was-- it is obvious, it is perceived very clearly, precisely. But we just don't want to ignore it-- acknowledge that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But if we are willing to cope with them--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --there would be a pattern?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There would be pattern. obviously. There would be stepping-stone.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2697.0,2944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What is the relation between frustration and depression? Is one dependent on the other, or are they both the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depression is dwelling in the misery. And frustration is a result of ambition, that you want to have a quick result, and if things doesn't happen accordance with your desire, then you're frustrated.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, does depression come out of frustration?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they are complementary to each other. I mean, you can't say one comes from the other. Frustration is, in other word, impatient. That you are about-- something is just about to happen, and it doesn't happen, so therefore you're frustrated. And depression is you don't want to look into it at all, and just want to sit on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=2944.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When you speak of investigating, let's say, depression, are you meaning first being aware that you are depressed, and then asking yourself questions like, \"Well why am I depressed?\" and thinking about your depression? Or do you mean just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we don't have to go through the process, at all. It will be-- depression will be obvious, it's a self-proving situation already. So we don't really go through the analogies of depression. In other word, depression-- whenever we experience depression, we feel that something is missing, therefore we are depressed. And then, the idea is trying to look in that what is missing. That which missing is that you haven't gone through complete depression properly. You are halfway through your depression. So if person is absolutely, completely depressed, in the fullest sense, then it wouldn't be depressing-- depression at all. It would be inspiration, it would be energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3016.0,3147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How do you go through it completely when you realize, [UNCLEAR: half you?] or you're sort of medium depressed? [Laughter] You sort of think that \"Well it must be sort of good that I'm medium depressed because it might go away.\" And that sort of keeps you out of it, going through it completely, doesn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't try to get rid of your depression to begin with anyway. That in itself is you're caught in a trap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But if you're digging your depression because you think it's going to help you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you don't think it's going to help you, particularly, at all. You are miserable, you are depressed. And that's not a complete depression, that is escape, that's interpretation of the depression, rather than actual depression itself. You don't interpret your depression into the good. Or you don't try to make it into something good. But hundred percent of depression, of complete lost ground, you are so depressed that you are almost transparent. That's the beautiful starting point. Depression is step towards transparency of whole being.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What are you escaping from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What do you escape from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You said we can do all these different ways to escape from.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, from the embarrassment of discovering what you are. Possibly that you don't exist as individual entity. That if you look into something else it might confirm your existence. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3147.0,3278.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: BREAK FOR GROUP DISCUSSIONS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to close that point and have group discussions. Somebody read the list of rooms, or whatever have you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3278.0,3295.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: If you don't have a teacher you work with, and you're meditating on your own, can you get very far, you know? You know, can start out and advance some, and quiet your mind some, but, like how far do you go without someone else's guidance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you do need some kind of experienced person's recommendation. How they have worked, and therefore you can do it that way as well, which means-- which makes whole thing is very encouraging, that somebody else done it so therefore you could do it. So that's sort of extra booster you need that kind of thing, as well as that some stage you might go too fast, you have to have someone to slow you down. So teacher is mirrorlike situation of your face is always bounces back on mirror and back on you as well. So, someone to give landmarks, it seem to be necessary at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3295.0,3354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Sometimes I get this feeling that I've almost gotten myself out of hand. Like I'm just-- like you said, maybe you're trying-- going too fast or something. Sometimes I feel that, you know, there's a part of it that says that there's one place, and then there's another part that's-- it's way out of hand, it's way in-- somewhere else, in meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't know. It's hard to explain. Like, my meditation is very-- it's not conducive to my everyday life. It's like a different level of reality, and there's a conflict.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I feel that same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it sounds like that your attitude of meditation is distorted. Meditation is not regarded as a sacred practice anymore. I mean, metaphorically, philosophically it is sacred, it is a superhuman thing to do. But in terms of everyday practice is concerned, it's not ritual or ceremony, and one does not prepare it, just sit and do it. And it doesn't have to particularly bring a boost to your daily living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean the setup of our attitude to meditation is wrong from that point of view -- as much as we would talk about high or low, there's some kind of problem. When you talk about meditation reaches you higher level, it automatically supposed to make you high, make the whole world is beautiful, so you can work much faster or more professional, or what have you. [Laughs] And somehow it doesn't work that way, you see. It's just eating your breakfast in the morning, it's good for you, but it doesn't bring more than that. It's just continual practice, continually relating with your whole being. Rather than something is told me.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere was something else that you were talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I feel there was a point of the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well I can't explain, it's gone. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3354.0,3537.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: During the lecture you had begun the subject of meditation with breathing. And then you had mentioned that walking and eating also can relate to meditation and they're free from dreams. Did you mean that when you're walking is becoming part of meditation, or did I misunderstand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Walking meditation [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE] Why-- I didn't understand why you brought that point in. Eating and, I don't know, walking can also relate to meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's using the least possible dreamlike situation. The more earthly things you do with your life is the ideal technique for meditation. I mean instead of concentrating on lotus flower or crystal globe [INAUDIBLE] but doing these things which actually have application with living is much more practical, and it brings you really down from the dream level. And there are certain particular way of doing that in terms of technique, of course. And I've sort of discuss it with food, the details of how to put your attention into that.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's not really meditating on it, but it's using that as-- it's crutch in some sense. I mean usually [INAUDIBLE] techniques are not regarded-- not particularly exotic or extreme, even the mantra, they're trying to enhance those visualization, that's used a daily living situation, energy, as part of the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3537.0,3656.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can you say something about speed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why don't you say [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I can speed because I am running away as well as wanting to do something efficiently?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's your anxiety.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anxiety? Exotic?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Anxiety.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anxiety, yeah. Well speed... speed, illusion of efficiency, if you are running.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So it is an escape?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I suppose we could make a definition between-- differences between running and speeding. Running is like [INAUDIBLE]. And the speeding general efficiency is a natural thing. I mean it's logical thing if you have to fulfill some particular function, have to be speedy, you have to be functional in that way. It's more organic. Whereas if it's running, along with speeding, then becomes neurosis, anxiety. In fact actually it's our neurosis that doesn't fulfill any function at all. We blow up the whole thing. Which don't achieve anything, you just be running, but you don't achieve anything. Defeats its own purpose.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's a story of a [INAUDIBLE] lama and his attendant who was very speedy person. And before he goes to bed, the lama says to his attendant -- his name was Charlie -- \"Charlie, you have to go to [UNCLEAR TIBETAN] tomorrow, to do some work for me.\" And he said, \"Yes, sir, I'll do that.\" And four o'clock, when he got up, he went to [UNCLEAR TIBETAN], and then came back. [Laughter] \"Now what happened to-- you are late this morning, you bring me breakfast?\" He said, \"Well I went to-- you told me to go to [UNCLEAR TIBETAN] and I came back.\" He didn't do anything that he wanted to do, he just went there and came back. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3656.0,3829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Can you explain what is-- I didn't understand what you said about samadhi. I thought samadhi was a blissful state, until I found out something else. And I don't remember just exactly what you said it was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you find this, here, front of you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I think that-- oh, you said, being in a state of that what is, and then also seeing things as they are. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh. Well then it isn't a blissful state of no thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I mean nothing to do with bliss.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Hmm. [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3829.0,3878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, the Hindus make-- talk about several different kinds of samadhi. Nirvikalpa samadhi and sahaja samadhi. Should we just forget about all that, this point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think as long as they're involved with the idea of attainment, absorption, then it is-- we would call primitive samadhi.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, as I understand it, there were guys like the yogi Ramakrishna who just went-- lost complete consciousness of the outer world, and went into a state which was described as \"nirvikalpa samadhi.\" And there were guys like Ramana Maharshi, who had-- who in the Vedanta terms were completely aware of their self or their essence, and also aware of the external world. They called that-- he called that \"sahaja samadha.\" Then there's a couple of other things that-- also, different types of samadhi too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean from the Buddhist point of view that you have the primitive samadhi, that is complete intoxication with the practice of god or what have you, that you lose contact with your living situation. And person get stuck to that, millions of years, until that his teacher comes back and wakes him from it, [laughter] tells him how to [INAUDIBLE] mistake, you have to come back in order to take bodhisattva vow.\" And he wakes up. That's the-- what's called pratyekabuddha state, is complete absorption in nirvana, complete absorption or cessation, everything, which is person involved with the self, constantly, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the other one is the what's known as discriminating-awareness wisdom, which is more like sahaja samadhi, is the precision, comes along with samadhi. Which has nothing to do with the bliss or nothing to do with absorption, at all. It's complete precise, you know, complete and functional in other word. Which is the experience of Buddha for instance. The moment when Buddha attained enlightenment, that moment that he attained was called \"vajra-like samadhi\", which means that \"discriminate awareness wisdom\", along with the wisdom equality, and equanimity. That you see things as same, panoramic vision, and because of that you see things as different as well at the same time. Like if you have a big photographic panoramic picture, and each item in the picture should be precise, in order to express the panoramic quality of it, at the same time it's open thing. So there seem to be two types of samadhi, basically. But the first one seem to be regarded as self-indulgency, and the second one is regarded as expression of enlightenment. It's the what's called vajra-like samadhi.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The-- also I-- in some books that I've read I've noticed they translate \"samadhi\" as \"trance\", that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, I'm afraid the doctor calls it as that as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, right, I think that's where it was.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and it's not right. I mean linguistically maybe, getting into something completely without dualistic comparison. Of course if you have no dualistic comparison you-- what else, must be getting into some state of something. But it doesn't mean that really, in the literal sense -- self-hypnosis -- it's quite different. It shouldn't be \"trance\", it should be much more awake than that, you see, more precision than absorption, from that point of view. But at the same time you can see you are absorbed in the precision, you have no dualistic mind anymore. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=3878.0,4163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You mentioned-- you used this term \"monkey mind\", which come from [INAUDIBLE] mind and not destroy. You meant all these hang-ups like aggression -- is that what you meant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, monkey mind is the thought process rather than aggression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see what I mean? Aggression and passion are the main thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Like if you have a package, parcel, you have the actual object, then you start with all the other things, which keeps the actual thing not broken, so the-- that stuffing is the monkey mind, which keeps the main thing safe and functional. That's why we use the idea of blood circles in the vein in your systems, the circulation revolving is the monkey mind. Whereas the actual limbs and heads and the arms you have is the aggression [INAUDIBLE]. That's why that we keep going constantly so we have passion maybe, aggression maybe, whenever we want it. But between the two that there's always thought process which maintains the whole process alive, all the time, communication systems live, all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that's very important to know, in terms of meditation, actually, it's getting very essential thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: See I thought you were referring to sort of like a-- almost our thinking mind, I guess.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well of course I've been referring, you see, rather than the aggression and passion. Aggression and passion are more result of it, they know what they are doing. But discursive thoughts are very dubious, with the fickleness, all the time, they change all the time. [INAUDIBLE] all kinds of ideas and dreams and discussions that comes back, and all the time the things that didn't happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can the aggression and passion exist without the discursive mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They can't. They become redundant then, or they have no way of relating with their communication system anymore. Their communication channel is the discursive thoughts [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4163.0,4321.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So you said that in-- when you meditate, when you sit, and first what came up are discursive thoughts, and then we-- our aggression and passion, bewilderment, comes up, and then the basic confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's going backward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah-- it's going backwards?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's going backward-- we're undoing the [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that the natural process, like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Like the first time when we approach to country, you come across with the border guards. And when you get closer and closer, then you begin to meet the officials of that country. And finally we meet the statesman, the figurehead, or whatever have you. So it's approaching inward. Meditation is invasion from that point of view. Sudden chaos for all that elaborate setup. Meditation is the starting point for the border guards, sending them into chaos, which breaks communication system in the main headquarter. And gradually setting more and more, more chaos, until you get to the king or what have you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is chaos, like, spacey?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well chaos is not keeping up with dualistic language anymore, and respect the existence of chaos as it is. So that chaos has nothing to fight against off. If you don't speak language of being orderly, then chaos has no function to fight against anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4321.0,4420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Chaos is the-- is also freak-out, when you-- well, freak-out [INAUDIBLE] in last week's lecture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it is. I mean fundamentally you can't use it in logical process of maintaining yourself anymore. That the technique that introduced from outside is so outrageous, so unthinkable, and you have no way of relating with it at all anymore. Because it's out-- completely outside of range of dualistic mind, so therefore you can't cope with it anymore, that sets the chaos.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That could be said is freak-out from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4420.0,4458.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: There really is a king? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, I said-- that's strange, she said, because I've had the same-- once in a while my mind goes in a circle and I-- one thought will come up, and then I thought, there's someone behind that thought. And then another one came on that thought, and that someone working and some-- something-- I mean I never can get to who is-- where they're taking me. Or someone's observing it somewhere else. it goes in this very vicious circle, and say, \"Oh, that's it, that's what they're saying\" and then round and around again. You're following? And it goes around and-- as if someone's-- is actually pushing me this way and that way, fooling me, you know, as \"Yeah, you think you got it there. Okay, watch this here. You think you got it. Oh yeah, no.\" You know, that's-- I don't know, that seems very-- like a person or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When-- [laughs] that's not my ego, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the guardsman of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you could look at that way. It's the-- that which maintains ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Those terrible demons I see portrayed and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever have you, yeah, it's the employees of the ego. The tea boys of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4458.0,4570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I sort of know what he's talking about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah, when I sort of black out, and then not really any thoughts at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Might be a defense mechanism.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I don't know what it was. What is that blacking out thing? I just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Blacking...?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah, I mean, I just get vacant, I just don't have anythi-- any points, and after going around in a circle that he's talking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's a good way to stop, if you can.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Yeah. Just automatically, it just happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, see what happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: See what happens beyond that. It's up to you to work out.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Then after that then I come back to [INAUDIBLE], yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In time it usually does, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Take a rest.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's up to you to work out what's beyond that.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [Laughs] I can't work it out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you can.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: That's-- I don't seem to be able to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have the materials.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I got the material.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. To work on. I'm sure you can work out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] Work it out, is the answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4570.0,4638.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is that circular thing... is that like being conscious of something and then skipping along and having consciousness of that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, exactly--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --[INAUDIBLE] conscious?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Exactly. It happens when-- it usu-- the real time it happens is when I get stoned, that's why I don't get... It used to happen, it just would-- it was very disturbing because I had no sense of where I was at, because once I felt I had a sense I was always going somewhere else, and then that was lost. And then I saw that I always felt that I was being-- you know, I was, I would say lost, you know. Being erratic. It's a consciousness of-- that that wasn't another consciousness, the con--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Consciousness of that consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, and it never led anywhere, it just-- I would usually just stop and say, \"This is ridiculous.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, that kind of confusion is always very obvious. It's-- there is some element of ego in all of them. That you begin to find the absurdity of ego in them, in their repetitions, or in their un-subtlety.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. But you don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But by seeing them, their absurdity, probably you may not particularly help those-- that ego, as particularly so. Because they can reassert their situations constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4638.0,4746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is one of the purposes of meditation, then, the dissolution or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --transcendence of the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, undoing of the ego. Unlearning. Invasion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would you say that beyond the ego is the self or the mind at large?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it-- there's-- we have a problem of-- epistemological problem, epistemological problem, [INAUDIBLE] self and ego, seem to be saying same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Unseeing the self? Because Jung speaks of self or-- of the-- same as the-- in the mind, at large.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE : Well it seems to be--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9:  [INAUDIBLE] mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seem to be at that point, to use any word is dangerous.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you reassert all kinds of ideas of solidity and begin to feel, \"At last I found my identity. I could name something.\" Which is-- which seem to be rather dangerous and that's-- from that point of view, in Buddhist tradition that they always try to not use any word at all, except you could say \"egoless\" or \"selfless\" or \"basic space\", whatever you like to call it. And beyond ego is that there is the ground, just basic ground. It's like if you have a-- if you have destroyed the whole building, whole castle--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then you have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --then you could-- then you have just a desert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4746.0,4867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then, Rinpoche, in my limited experience of meditation I see that-- or thoughts arise and it-- you're quiet, you see that the thoughts arise. Then there's the-- and sometimes one feels separate from those thoughts. Thoughts are just sort of bubbling up. And then there's another thought, an \"I\" thought, which then attaches-- it seems to attach itself, like-- it's like a-- formulated in terms of a mechanism of identification. So that you would get caught in a thought, and you think that you're thinking that thought. Is the-- but the \"I\" thought seems to go deeper than just another thought. It seem--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You identify with the thought. You identify with the thought, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, there are thoughts, and then there are thoughts that I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]. Very Gurdjieffian. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Very what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Very good what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gurdjieffian.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But those thoughts that you identify with are just-- they're somehow just-- they're oppressive. They have--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well anytime you say \"I\", then you're identifying with the thought as sensation, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thought is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That anytime you say \"I\" to something -- \"I think\" or \"I'm hungry\" or something like that -- then you're identifying with the sensation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With sensation, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --but that's not really true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Because it changes, right? The next moment \"I'm\" something else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --is the-- I guess I tend to equate the ego with the sense of \"I\", you know, which is-- which seems to identify itself with all sorts of perceptions, phenomena--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. There's just the freelance perceptions, so to speak, freelance, which doesn't have to relate with \"me\" as a self-conscious \"me\" or deliberate \"me\" as such at all. When you're hungry, just eat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Right, right, and that is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When you're thirsty, just drink. Ape instinct.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: It seems that the ego trap is when you somehow feel or believe.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean at that kind of point [INAUDIBLE] all this idea of that you are on the path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you feel you're practicing something you're on the path. You are on the process of disillusionment of ego. And those thoughts become much more stronger than used to be for a child, for any man on the street, they become more and more powerful because man on the street has a psychological materialism to deal with, and when you don't have that, then you have spiritual materialism replaced by it, and one begin to make a big deal of the conscious effort of the whole thing. Do you see what I mean? And one becomes very deliberate, very definite, about your relationships of whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So what do you do about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we have to come-- we have to reconcile ourselves with somehow spirituality is not anymore sacred. It's organic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4867.0,5128.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So how is that different from the psychological--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Materialism? That what you call?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No, I was going to say how is that different from psychological, actual working, you know, kind of on neuroses.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How is spiritualism which we speak of, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Difference from the psychological view?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah, a psychological solution to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see basically psychological problem is that this ambition is extremely very gross level, very rugged. \"I want to become rich.\" \"I want to become famous.\" And we become more sophisticated than that. You say, \"I don't really want to become famous or rich or powerful person, politician, become whatever. We want to become president\" But \"I want to become enlightened person. So from today onward, I'm going to be conscious of my pursuit towards enlightenment. Whatever I do, I'm going to-- I'll look into myself, seriously. And every situation involved with my livelihood is spirituality, therefore I must watch them. I must learn something out of it, because they're all sacred. I been taught and read in books, I learn Sufism, or whatever, I'm into Hinduism, Buddhism. And life is sacred, which is true. And I want to captivate those inspirations. Now I'm going to watch myself. And here we begin then. So I am my thoughts.\" And we begin to look into where that thought came from. What's nature of the thoughts. But then you don't discover sacredness in-- out of it at all. I mean you discover the watcher of the thoughts, again. And so we go on and on with [INAUDIBLE] game. You have the watcher of the watcher of the watcher of the watcher of the watcher and the watcher of the watcher. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5128.0,5293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --all the space comes out with the chaos, or is it best to have faith in that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, just go along with the chaos, whatever it may be. You see if-- in some sense it's question of giving up the standing point, giving up the platform you're sitting on, observing all these things. Unless you give up the platform where you're observing-- where you watch-- watchtower, you begin to see all kinds of things. So you have to become part of the view, rather than you have become part of the watcher. Becoming part of the view is most important, rather than the viewer. But you don't ask how to do it, but you just do it. And as soon as when we involve with how to do it, then we setting up another strategy of maintaining your place, maintaining your watchtower. You see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. But it's like-- what I want to say is, like, I read in this book, [laughter] where Ramana Maharshi said, \"You're already realized, but you don't realize it.\" So in a sense I take that to mean that we are in fact enlightened, but we're not-- we don't realize that we're enlightened. There's like this superstructure over that, like an ego-based, cognitive conceptualizations that just goes on all the time, and the \"I\" sense that I have attaches itself to these thoughts and this-- and these concepts. So it would seem that if that-- if you could get below that, it's like your analogy of the crowd earlier, if you could kind of... So you said somehow get through the crowd or dissolve the crowd, you might in fact be the speaker, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean in theory that's true. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well in that case-- [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we have to actually do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5293.0,5490.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When I think about-- I think of my own life, and I think of the only time that I actually was, you know, just being myself, whatever that is, just when I was a little child. And I can think of, you know, of the ways that I was, you know, [INAUDIBLE] with my mommy and daddy, you know. And that's all that I can refer to, that's all that I would be able to use to be me. That's the only way that I can be, is that I just was. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5490.0,5540.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Did you speak a minute ago of a viewer? A viewer? Well I'm wondering what the difference between a viewer and a watcher is. I suppose that the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The viewer is watcher.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Viewer is the watcher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's [INAUDIBLE] in.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well then, you have to get rid of this viewer and watcher, is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to get rid of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh, you don't have to get rid of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, they're not a villain.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: They're not the villain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They're not villains.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, I thought the watcher was checking up all the time--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know but--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: --on what you're doing, and if you're--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have to destroy the watcher or the viewer but you take off the view. You take away the view.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You take away the view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So then viewer or the watcher begin take part in the view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Doesn't viewer--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Then they're not checking up on them, on your-- you're not checking up on yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Isn't viewer the ego, that the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well viewer, as well as the projection, as well as the ego -- both are the display of the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [UNCLEAR: Both of them?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's like you have a projector and you have a cinema screen, same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: But if you take this just to the view, then the watcher and the viewer are not checking up on their--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's nothing to check on [laughter] when you have no one-- nothing to check on. You have no view, to the view*er*.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's same as pulling carpet under your feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5540.0,5652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION  27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I couldn't understand this either then. You mean the view are the thoughts? Are they--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: View?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Both viewer and view are the thoughts. It's like children's game. Some people pretend to be the audience, some people pretend to be the speaker. You set up all this theater, but actually they're all the same person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5652.0,5693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Using the analogy of the cinema then, did you say that you're both the projector and the images projected?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Projected as well, yeah, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And that you are, say, identified with the projections, you're ignorant of the projector, or you forget the projector, or you-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the thing is that you can't destroy the project*or*. But you may able to do something to the fact that the projector become redundant when there's no projection which you can project to. There's no-- like there's no screen to project to anymore. So the projector become redundant. So the self-consciousness already gone. That you have no one to entertain. You have no screen to project to anymore. The audience begin to leave. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut we can't approach from the other end, to destroy the projector, still in the process of projecting on the screen. That's wrong end of the stick. You don't accomplish anything at all. Maybe there's another projector which in another aperture could project. And if you're-- when your own machine break down, somebody else project it for you. So constantly happening all the time, and goes the whole [INAUDIBLE] There's more theaters, all kinds of walls there. The up and down, and another camera waiting for you if your camera broke down.\r\n\r\n\r\nOnly way to break the whole system is just remove the screen by becoming part of the audience, by becoming part of the screen. You see, the function of projector begin to lose its occupation. Usually we can't begin from obvious point, but we have to start from somewhere else. Ego's game is so, so set. It has definite ideas about things, how it ought to-- how things should be, which makes much easier for us to attack, in certain terms, to start chaos. We start at the wrong end. The least expect, the least defended territory, which is dealing with the projections, rather than the projector.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5693.0,5893.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The thing of it that bugs me about that, if you say \"you\" in-- but there's no one there, who are you addressing? When you say \"you\", you say \"you\" and I understand \"you\", that's... [laughter] but is it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that doesn't make any difference really, you understood, that's just metaphorical. We don't have to destroy everything. You need energy to work with it in any case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well the thing it-- that seem to be in my-- this analytical mind that goes on, that… The doer, or that which has the sense of doing, must be the ego. Because it seems like ultimately that this all would be already taken care of. So I can't under-- it's hard to understand how I can work if that is in fact the-- then because that would-- the doer then would be the ego working to do in the ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the whole absurdity. As far as ego is concerned it's set up -- the audience as well as the speaker -- to maintain its place. But there is-- you can't-- you-- there is no other way to do that. There's all-- no-- there's no way to maintain itself, is to set up an audience. I mean that's why whole thing is regarded as \"maya\" or \"play\" is you set up your audience, you set up your speaker. And one pretend to be listening, one pretend to be speaking. I mean that's greatest game, that's greatest hypocrisy that there is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But it works.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It works as long as nobody begin to look beyond that level. [Laughs] Absurdity becomes realistic. And my untruth becomes truth from that point of ego's concern. And then the term recently developed -- \"game\", \"playing game\" -- which is very apt. It's very interesting word. That both speaker and the audience are playing game. They're not trying to fool anybody else, but trying to fool themselves. So that by trying to fool each other you get some kick out of it, constantly. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=5893.0,6131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85010/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we have to stop here. [INAUDIBLE] [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=6131.0,6134.13013"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720224VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=0.73,4.143"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Colorado\nClasses 1972, held in Boulder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=4.143,8.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number six,\nThe Application of Meditation:\nFirst Stage, held\nFebruary 24th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=8.6,16.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom\nremaster made September 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=16.57,23.718"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=23.718,36.122"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We were going\nto discuss on introduction\nto meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=41.96,48.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that it is important\nto know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=56.49,62.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the actual application\nof meditation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=62.91,75.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms with the meditator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=75.05,80.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, the basis\nof meditation had to be worked\nwith the meditator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=86.16,94.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Without that you have\nno meditation at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=94.51,98.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's look into the definition\nof \"meditation.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=101.64,106.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=111.23,114.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in this case has connection\nwith the Sanskrit word\n\"samadhi\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=117.56,124.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or \"bhava.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=130.06,133.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Bhava\" means\n\"becoming.\" [Whispering]\nThank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=137.66,146.783"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And \"bhavana\"\nmeans \"absorption.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=149.68,157.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Samadhi means","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=160.16,163.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being in the state\nof that what 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speaker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=6047.28,6051.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/1228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one pretend to be listening,\none pretend to be speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552#t=6051.16,6056.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161703/file/293552/transcript/85011/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean that's greatest game,\nthat's greatest hypocrisy\nthat there 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