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Examines themes of discipline and devotion. How Milarepa's extraordinary diligence allowed him to attain enlightenment in one lifetime. Describes arduous process of examining every corner of his neurosis, presented as the only way. Stresses crucial point of how everything in our experience is workable. Discipline appreciating even one's shortcomings, not punishing oneself. Milarepa's intensive sitting practice as only way to basic sanity. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q2} directly equates discipline with sanity. [Q6] How having a critical attitude opens one to the teachings.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003eChapter 6. Milarepa’s Genuineness and Honesty (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 7. Encountering Marpa (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 8. Marpa’s Construction Projects (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 9. Destroying Materialism (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 10. Straightforward Discipline (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 30 2023 to Feb 17 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMilarepa's experience as a practitioner after he is accepted by and given teachings by Marpa. Examines themes of discipline and devotion. How Milarepa's extraordinary diligence allowed him to attain enlightenment in one lifetime. Describes arduous process of examining every corner of his neurosis, presented as the only way. Stresses crucial point of how everything in our experience is workable. Discipline appreciating even one's shortcomings, not punishing oneself. Milarepa's intensive sitting practice as only way to basic sanity. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q2} directly equates discipline with sanity. [Q6] How having a critical attitude opens one to the teachings.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled Milarepa: [His] Life and Example, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number three, January 3rd, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Milarepa: His Life and Example, given on January 3rd, 1976, talk number three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENT]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE] Before we begin the talk: I'm not part of this organic community, but I do feel concerned that there seems to be a viral infection spreading through the community. And I was just wondering if, possibly, tomorrow, any of the people that have the symptoms of a cold, or feel that they have a cold *already* -- which means that in fact that [INAUDIBLE] avoid it -- would, if they could, meditate in the West shrine room... [Coughing; laughter] I think the people that have been meditating in the West shrine room now who *don't* have a cold, will have a fighting chance not to get one tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean we should set up some quarantine shrine room? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Can we have a show of hands of people who feel they already have colds, [laughter] if they'd be willing to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think they're going to die on the spot. [Laughter] Take Vitamin C. [Laughter] Thank you for the suggestion, nevertheless.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnything else? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=27.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to discuss tonight what we have discussed-- following of what we discussed last night, the question of what happens after acceptance of that particular type of discipline is gone through. And the student's been tested, raised hell, tried -- all kinds of levels. And next situation comes up is the true meaning of discipline and devotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=134.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meaning of devotion here is sense of surrendering, sense of opening to what happens, and to the situation. That you are not trying to cook up something *extra* so that you can win over against the command of the teacher or the guru. That you accept everything what has been said, but at the same time, it is very questionable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=196.0,238.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we heard of stories in the past, up to this point, that certain teachers would tell their students, \"There's no room to have any doubts, none whatsoever.\" Either they should get into it, or they should get out of it. And at this point the question on Milarepa and the Kagyu tradition is concerned, it's a different one. That you can get in if there's more critical attitude to the situation. More questions there is, much better, much more realistic and fertile. Whereas if there's less question and just purely submission, commitment alone, that is regarded as very tricky and dangerous person. Very dangerous. For one thing that you are just taking things by word of mouth, face value as they say. Is very dangerous, extremely dangerous. And it doesn't work in the long run.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=238.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The main important point is having all kinds of critical attitude to the situation of learning and studying process, but at the same time diligently seeking to practice, study. Seek to practice and study. Milarepa sat in his cave for a long time, and he had attained enlightenment in his lifetime. But at the same time, the process that he has gone through was very painful and arduous -- extremely, extremely arduous and painful. Reason why it is arduous and painful is because that he is examining every speck of his neurosis as part of the working basis. It is like that shit is be served for breakfast and lunch, and as well as for dinner, again and again, again *and* again, on and on. To begin with, you don't like your own shit. But then it's too much to be served as three times as meal. It's not so nice. It's terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=351.0,468.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that seem to be the only way. That to appreciate, realize, work with, your own particular output, and that becomes input of your own particular world. That you create the fragrance of ear-- air around your world, around your room, out of your own armpit smell. It seem to be very ghastly in some sense, unpleasant. But nevertheless it is very workable. If you are not willing to work with what you have, what you are, on the spot, there's no other way to work with oneself -- none whatsoever, absolutely not! The situation becomes very fake at some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=468.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The discipline part of this is: sit for morning, sit for mid-day, sit for evening; in fact, there is no actually boundary between the two-- three of them. Sit all the time. Constantly sit, sit, sit, practice, practice, practice, all the time. Interestingly, that the beginning point, that your shit in the morning is regarded as breakfast; and then shit in the mid-day is regarded as lunch; shit in the end of the day is regarded as dinner. [Laughter] Then you begin to lose all kind of perspectives. That there's shit all over. [Laughter] It's everywhere. [Laughter] So, you begin to get some kind of feeling to the fact that the continuity of facing one's own neurosis is, after all, not big deal. Discipline is more of appreciation of your own shortcomings, feasting on your own shit, rather than punishing yourself, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=552.0,712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In some traditions Catholics have way of beating themselves up. [Laughter] Lot of other traditions have that kind of style of making yourself starve, beat yourself to the blood, make yourself completely thirsty. All kinds of theistic tricks that have developed. In those cases purely in name of God, not in the name of your own sanity, unfortunately. But if we begin to lay trips on the name of God, trying to go through this process, that's going to breed further *in*sanity, rather than sanity, which not actually intended. So way to relate with God would bring sanity at the same time. Somehow that didn't happen, that didn't take place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=712.0,785.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Milarepa's discipline was very powerful, extraordinarily unyielding. He sat and sat and sat on this rock, seat, without any cushions. And fundamentally that his buttock, his bottom, is completely ingrown to the shape of individual curves that rock exists. He become completely one with the rock, he become one with the moss of the rock. And drew blood out his bottom, but that could be healed, finally. And he become part of the rock: he's rock statue, completely. That's not regarded as particular exaggeration as same as the things we discussed in the Catholic traditions of punishing oneself. Milarepa never sat for meditation on sitting on the rock as punishment, that he should cure-- purify his sin, but he should meditate a lot. That's why he sat on his rock seat, bottom. [Laughs] Nothing to do with punishment, nothing to do with condemning the human beings who fell-- fallen away from divine principles, at all. It's just purely need for basic sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=785.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to have basic sanity, you relate with the earth, rock. Sit, practice a lot. That doesn't mean to say, of course, you should put the rocks inside your zafu [laughter] and make yourself more suffered. Discipline is very important, from that point of view, for sanity. The Western theistic philosophy of discipline is more you suffer, more you catch yourself constantly, that much sanity is going to be granted. But in the Buddhist tradition, nontheistic tradition, more discipline is there, that's going to develop more sanity. It's not so much of punishment as such, particularly at all. Very simple and straightforward.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=882.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Could you say how discipline relates to sanity in more detail?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, discipline *is* sanity in some sense. That sanity is a sense of seeing what is happening around your world, and going along with that particular pattern. And wherever there's need for discipline, you do it. Discipline, in this point, meaning having a sense of relaxation, as well as having a sense of controlled situation at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Would that sense of control be a sense of no controller, also?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Never.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Never.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Well, wouldn't a sense of a controller imply a self that's controlling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's just by situation. The message come from outside. If you put your finger on a burning ring in your stove, you didn't do it, the stove did it. It got the message to it, but you had mismanaged your stove. [Speaking Spanish] Comprendo?\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you want to say something? Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Um...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: I still feel confused because I think that release from the sense of an ego implies that there's no one to experience anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean like jellyfish? [Laughter] Petrified individuality? There is further more intelligence taking place beyond that. You can't ignore your intelligence, your thought patterns. Even suicide doesn't work.\r\n\r\n\r\nKENNETH BOWLES: Even what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suicide doesn't work. Okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=956.0,1203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The patterns of self-punishment that you described in the theistic traditions, does that represent, in your opinion, a distortion from within the institution or from the original teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Predominantly institutions. But that begin to become also spokesman of the original teachings as well, these days.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very simple, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then it's almost primarily or, you know, completely the responsibility of the institution to promote a practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So therefore, they're very well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In other word, the-- what I'm saying is that individual mystics faded away, faded out. That theistic traditions as concerned, they're more concerned about the family hierarchy, individuality, very much so, because of it's normal theism. So they wouldn't include someone like Naropa, Tilo, as part of the family because they are not respectable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: They already have the established original family...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Already established the individual family--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Ahhh...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --already. And they need everybody to eat kosher food or whatever you have, you know, go through the whole line of everything. And I think reason why Buddhism has survived in its purity is because it didn't have any kosher food, [laughter] anything like that, you know. Tantric Buddhism, particularly, I would say. And it didn't have any particular lines of thinking of that nature, of that people should stick to certain particular trend of things all the time. If you are become the bad rabbi, regard as heretic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=1203.0,1337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The symbolism in these schools, to my mind, are somewhat compatible with-- or similar in the types of symbolism that Buddhism seems to generate. And there seems to be the possibility of a bridge in terms of real communication, workability and communication--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE3: --at some point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some point. Yeah. Well, that seem to be slowly taking place. That as far as Buddhism is concerned, it's all-encompassing space. It doesn't believe in a god in any case. You can't encourage Buddhists to believe in a god, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But on the other hand, that the Buddhist tradition do believe in sense of principles that's working in the phenomenal energy. That theistic traditions have to bend down to Buddhism from that point of view, as far as that situation is concerned. Which is begin to happen, actually. That lot of the theistic traditions begin to-- at least the Christianity, people speak more of terms of god*head* rather than Jehovah, and say-- you know per se. And people begin to talk about Kingdom of Heaven and saying, you know, \"In you.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it's an intellectual problem, it's...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But they begin to realize their problems, you know, And on the other hand Buddhist traditions never said that we believe your god. We stay as Buddhists. And that there is historical changes begin take place. That theologians of the theistic traditions begin to surrender slowly and slowly, slowly, and slower. And that I never heard any Buddhist theologians talking that we should-- we worshiping same god, at all. So that current-- this point is, if I may be so selfish, which is actually not selfish, is realistic actually, that world is running towards democracy, rather than one pyramid point, worship one god that going to save the whole universe. But believing in humanitarian basis is taking place slowly and slower. So, nontheistic tradition is become the central point of anchor, and theistic tradition begin to come around to it--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --as much as how the traditions of feudalism is fall apart, which is a theistic tradition. Nontheistic traditions, lot of things based-- I mean, theistic tradition is based on feudalism, a lot, and now the feudalism falling apart. So the theistic-- nontheistic traditions also have to accept that aspect of it at all. So you can't say that certain certain people is defender of the faith of the Christian traditions, or the Judaic traditions, anymore. They begin to fall apart.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. There doesn't seem to be any defenders of the faith in theistic tradition. There don't seem to be any people who are--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. As far as nontheistic traditions, we don't need any defenders of the face-- *faith*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: We need reminders of the faith.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, which is pain in the world, [laughter] suffering, and egomaniac-ness. And I mean Hitler and Mussolini is perfect caricature--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But also a teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --of how if you involved with the egomanic situation, how it could fucked up the whole world. And teacher is just purely spokesman to say commentary, \"Look what happened. Look that happened,\" and so on and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or event] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=1337.0,1624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: We've all heard about making friends with yourself, but the idea of feasting on your own shit sounds like it's in a whole different class.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say that, that's part of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But I guess I'm not sure about the distinction between acknowledging something and actually working with something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, precisely. You've got it. [Laughter] I think that's it. [Laughter] Yeah, that's very good. Fantastic. [Laughter] That's it. [Laughter] That's it. And we cannot provide with the disposable diapers. [Laughter] Sorry about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=1624.0,1659.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN ROCKWELL: Yes. Could you go into what sense of renunciation is implicit in the discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Renunciation is to give your hold, your tendencies.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN ROCKWELL: Give your hold?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, tendencies.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN ROCKWELL: And just letting go?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN ROCKWELL: Renunciation. Just letting go completely?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. 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Is there any ever a point where it is dangerous to question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that question begin to dissolve. If you ask a lot of questions at the beginning, then you're tired of asking questions. Your questions begin to resolve, begin to melt in terms of-- they become answers all the time. Whenever you have a questions, they begin to melt into answers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781#t=1813.0,1941.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166990/file/303781/transcript/91421/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's good point to stop at this point, I think. [Laughter] Good morning, once more, and have a nice time. Goodnight. Good nightmares. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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