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Commitment to practice opens one to reality, Basic sanity, joy arise, result of discipline. Importance of teacher, sangha, lineage. Discusses beginning level prajna; develops through awareness without reference point. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q2] how boredom relates to joy; [Q3] role of partner in love relationship; [Q4,Q8] what refuge vow means, how to approach; [Q9] how \"revolutionary\" political action can fit in Buddhist path; [Q18] whether nature of reality perceived by Buddha would be experienced in same way today. Concluding remarks, Trungpa Rinpoche encourages everyone to work hard in their practice, bring what they learn into their lives; importance of helping the world.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Path is the Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE PATH IS THE GOAL: Part Two: Chapter 7: Creating a Little Gap\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-path-is-the-goal-1146.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2 (in contained book THE PATH IS THE GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2024 to Mar 31 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Vipashyana, Insight Meditation, held at Karme Choling, Vermont. This is talk number seven, September 13th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Insight. This is the concluding talk, Talk Seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=27.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --just more or less, most of the topic in connected with vipashyana. And for unfortunate lack of sufficient time, we didn't have a chance to go through in great detail. But I think that you must have some idea as to the approach that should be taken. And particularly I would like to make further emphasis on the idea of post meditation awareness that we discussed. That seem to be heart of the Buddhist meditation practice, and that accompanied with actual sitting practice of meditation as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=28.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that the question here is if there is any sense of integrity, openness, to the practice of meditation, that the important point is to commit oneself to the practice. Which brings a sense of reality, that the practice is no longer myth. It's a real experience. And having become part of your lifestyle situation, then practice could be utilize as reminder, way of taking a look at your heavy-handed thoughts, which are known as emotions. That complete new world, so to speak, old-new world, of meditative life, could be established.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=100.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there is so much joy goes along with that. Not necessarily that of frivolity, but sense of earth-boundedness. That finally you are not kidding anybody, including yourself. That there is very basically founded on very solid ground. That there is real discipline is taking place, and one doesn't have to depend on hocus-pocus anymore as comic reliefs, or way to cheer up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=191.0,242.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that particular experience could be said as the beginning of basic sanity, is begin to dawn on us. That when the life is disciplined, and also life *contains* discipline, and discipline reminds you, and you remind the notion of discipline as well at the same time. So there is ongoing process is developed. With the help of a teacher, with the help of fellow sangha, and with the help of the examples of the lineage holders, that life becomes very full one -- completely full, but at the same time very spacious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=242.0,304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion there is that, having developed a sense of awareness, and a glimpse of one's awareness, that cuts through the karmic chain reactions of reproducing karmic debts. Because there is a little gap, which sets chaos to the karmic chain reaction productivity. So the karmic chain reactions are cut, so that slows down the further reproduction of ego-centered karmic reproductions. And therefore the basic logic there is that this is the way that we could stop samsara, or transmute samsara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=304.0,356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One can't stop samsara immediately, because samsara at that point is the inspiration to freedom, at the same time. Without samsaric experience, that we are unable to get into this level, and because of samsara's hangups, therefore we are able to do so. So that there is no particular regret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=356.0,387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time it is necessary for us to realize the implication of this, not in a sense that it is ultimate hope, and ultimate salvation, in evangelical level particularly. But in a sense of it's real, and it's a very honest and earnest step that we are making towards practice of meditation. Is not particularly colorful; it's something that everybody on the spiritual path does. [Laughs] And it does it-- everybody does it in relatively accurately, otherwise they won't be on the spiritual path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=387.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same time that contains a lot of sophistication, of training towards prajna, or the transcendental knowledge, which is educational process that's taking place. And we begin to learn how to look at things, how to look at everywhere, anywhere, in a-- with a certain point of reference, which is other than *the* reference point of duality. That we are able to see things in very clearly, very precisely. And maybe there is a tinge of joy, which is not particularly extraordinarily happy one, necessarily. Not particularly it's pleasurable. But there sense of joy, sense of lightness, at the same time sense of fullness which takes place constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, having had said too much about that, probably we should have a-- some short discussions, and then we should close our seminar. Questions? Discussions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=434.0,506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm not ready.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're not ready?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=506.0,536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: All week you've been talking about boredom. Now you talk about joy. Can one experience boredom and joy together?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's a question of making friends with the boredom, is joy. We are not talking two different subject, or trying to have the hot tap and the cold tap together and so create a happy medium particularly. But we are talking about the-- that boredom *is* openness, and joy is also openness, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=536.0,593.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nNICKI OMANSKY: Yesterday we were talking about falling in love and relationships. And I was wondering, in terms of Buddhism, what is the validity of having a close relationship with one person, if falling in love is just coming from loneliness? [Laughs] And what is really the validity of having that relationship, you know? Is it just-- it's just another illusion, so you should just relate to the whole sangha, or is there some special...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean illusion is not supposed to look down upon. And in any case, everything's illusion. So you can't say, \"This is just another illusion, therefore it's not-- doesn't have enough value, enough worth.\" I think having a personal experience to relate with somebody, on a personal level, that that particular person -- your mate, your husband, your wife -- *becomes* the spokesman for the rest of the sangha at the same time. Because that when you live with somebody long enough, that there is intense irritation, and intense... warmth. And often you regard each other as being very cute and sweet, and sometimes as a living devil [laughter] -- or deviless, devil, devilette. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, there is a lot of experience which is unexplored area. That you only use your microscope with your own mates. Otherwise there's no time to use it for everybody, because nobody will sit there, and nobody will let you be looked at, scrutinized on you. And only your mate will let you do that. Which is a very generous thing, [laughter; laughs] fantastic. And I think your mate represent the-- act as spokesman of the world, of the rest of the world. So it is seem to be very important in one's life. And you can't just shake it off, or just take it easily, you know. And I think it's very important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=593.0,812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: On both Friday and yesterday we have talked about the vow, the commitment to be an aware person or to follow the path of awareness. And I've heard about the process or an event called the refuge vows, and I'm wondering if you could say something about what those are in the Buddhist tradition and this tradition, and what the process is for taking them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the idea of taking refuge vow is basically, and very simply, it is a process of becoming a Buddhist. Which entails that the sidetracks be ignored, and from that point onward that you are taking a straight and narrow path. That you are no longer fascinated by sidetracks anymore, so your shopping... sort of fad is over. That you no longer shop for something else. Which is based on the practice of meditation obviously.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat you might ask, \"How this is possible? What particular positive move that we could make, in order to get into this situation?\" Is the only thing to do is that, not necessarily you'll commit to the church or the Ppope or the bishop particularly, but you are committed to yourself, you're going to work on yourself, the practice of meditation. That is actually necessary. And when we talk about yesterday, about need for certain particular dates that you're going to do that, like a birthday party, birthday celebration. That you do need a certain particular time and space and certain particular area, where people watching you doing it, and you're being conducted by your preceptor. That you are now onward, from today, this very hour onward, that you are going to be a meditator. That seem to be the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think in the long run it is very important and necessary for people to do that. But in the short run I wouldn't just recommend to people to jump in, particularly, to that, until they know what they're doing. So if they have self-existing commitment already evolved in themselves, before they do such commitment, which is dangerous. And once you have done it, you are stuck here. You can't undo it. And it is very claustrophobic, and there's no one to save you from that. And you can't untake refuge vow anywhere, and it is unknown. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I think that's the basic point, is when person is involved enough in working with himself or herself, then that point there is need for taking refuge vow. Which is taking refuge here doesn't necessarily mean taking refuge like receiving a welfare service for free. But you become refugee, you become homeless. You don't have any home ground. You are stateless, you don't have a passport anymore. And you are stuck with your area where you are, you become refugee. And you can't travel around with your passport anymore, so you become stateless. So that seem to be the basic point. Is cutting down the speed and playful, neurotic playfulness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=812.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: From the point of view of Nicki's question, how can you justify divorce? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean \"justify\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well if everything is a workable situation, if the-- if your mate represents the sangha, then divorce would be just a copping out, running away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think so, in a sense. But at the same time, sometimes people try too hard. And maybe there is need for, you know, space. That if the sangha-ship with one person to another person becomes absolutely sour, and there's no point in living on such diet, which is almost becoming a poison, over-riped yeast, is not very healthy. And one should have a gap, openness. Which is again, that your mate is acting as the spokesman of the world, your world. That you are not only being bitter about your mate alone, but your world, at the same time, so that that's message. So still that your mate plays a very important role in fact in any case. But there's no ceremony, like a wedding or divorce ceremony. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=1056.0,1161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You mentioned that the teacher must be a living person in the-- in this particular space. And yet I see a lot of people that have, for instance dead gurus.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Dead gurus in the sense of, well, I was thinking of Jesus freaks, or people that have allegiance to personalities that seem to have passed this particular space. And I was just wondering if there's any way that that type of relationship could be construed as real, real work on the path, more or less?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think as far as the Christian tradition is concerned, that you have contemporary teacher, and you have an example, exemplary teacher, like Christ. And I think we have same situation in Buddhism at the same time actually. There's someone like Milarepa, and all the people in the lineage, and Buddha, that who have evolved their life situation with achievement of enlightenment. Those are sort of examples. And, but at the same time, I think the differences with that, the Christian tradition and the Buddhist tradition is that nobody can save you, not even Buddha. Who possesses lot of wisdom and power and compassion, immense. But still, that he is unable to save us. That only that you can be saved is by ourselves. And you have to have, in order to make your journey smooth, and successful, is you have to have a rider on the horse or driver on the car. That seem to be the idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhereas I think something like Jesus freaks, and people like that, and there is a very simple-minded approach. That if Jesus comes in your dream, and that is the \"real stuff, and he actually did show up.\" [Laughter] Well if you have obsession with something or other, obviously you dream lots of that, and that's questionable. And you might-- still might take the same way that if your dead husband, dead wife, comes in your dream, and you are not still married to them particularly. But that's the kind of situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I think there is, particularly in the theistic tradition and the Christian tradition, evangelical traditions, that there's lot of tricks that-- which is not very kind, and playing on the people's emotions. And particularly that somebody who sacrifice his life for you, a long time ago. And that's very, very touching, it's very moving. \"And he died for you. And you are here still in a wretched state, but somebody actually did try to save you, he could save you.\" It's-- that's-- and in Chinese Buddhism sometimes you find a similar kind of attitude actually. You find that the bodhisattva, the situation that when Buddha gave up his body to a tigress who was hungry -- one of his life stories, of Buddha's past incarnations, Jataka stories -- that things like that be used by the Chinese Buddhists. And they begin to develop that kind of evangelical, and very righteous attitude. Which is their tendency. But somehow I don't think that will work as complete Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd people have studied a great deal about how to-- how you can catch people's emotions, how you have make them woke up. And a lot of them have perfected that, the wrong reasons or maybe right reasons, one can't say. But still the effect is very dubious, in present day anyway. There may be somebody who is converted hysterically into Christianity, and become a saint obviously. A lot of them are like that. But at the same time, it's questionable, it's not a hundred percent skillful means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=1161.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I have one other question which most respectfully I would like to ask. You talked about the possibility of, in Christianity, of the teachings being much higher than the aspirant. And that the aspirant is felt lower in that sense. In order for the teachings to be high, you would have to be low, in that case. Then I'm just curious within my own mind about the tradition of what I see with far as the Black Hat tradition is concerned. And the-- apparently to me, at least, appears to be a throne, which-- for His Holiness to sit upon. And I'm just wondering if you would comment upon that particular relationship?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't see any particular problems there. What is the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well it seems to-- but like, why is that necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, why do we have seminars? You know, it's why one person talk and the rest of people listen. I mean, you have that kind of problems, that kind of situations. That, I mean, why do we tape them?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well in order to learn.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well that's the kind of situation. There is-- learning doesn't necessarily mean, you know, purely verbal. And somebody's putting-- you might watch somebody putting a tie ceremoniously, or getting undressed ceremoniously. Or His Holiness performing Black Hat ceremony, ceremoniously. And I think there is a lot of tradition behind it. And tradition means a lot of case histories of sanity; not only case history, but experience of sanity that have developed. This particular ceremony that His Holiness performing his seven hundred years old ceremony, including his hat, is seven hundred years old. [Laughter] So, there is a lot of-- people deposit left behind, their sanity. And that kind of tradition is extremely powerful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Wouldn't it be just as effective without, let's say the throne or the hat?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be. But then the tradition developed *that* way, so we can't undo the past.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Oh, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And if he performed his hat ceremony on a lawn-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughs] Without the hat.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --there would be joke.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [Laughs] Yeah. I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It would just be no tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Which hasn't developed, not old enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It really doesn't matter about the tradition in that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The tradition itself doesn't make any difference.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. But its oldness, its-- the antiqueness makes differences, because they handed down generation, generation. Somebody thought some good ideas, and they handed down, you know, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=1520.0,1734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, I'd like to know if when you take the vow, that means you'll be converted into Buddhist? That you become a Buddhist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well I mean, what does it mean by converting to Buddhism? That means you meditate a lot. And you work on yourself. That what really boils down. And you don't wear your badge, particularly. And you don't propagate the Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You don't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well no, I mean, we hardly mention about Buddha lately. [Laughter] And he is somebody who did job, and he transmitted to us, so that's good enough. So there's no point in beating the dead horse. [Laughter; laughs] SPEAKER: Beating what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Beating a dead horse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=1734.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I notice that there's a hangover or a side-trip that I come with to the practice, in terms of seeing myself as a revolutionary.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] Yeah. I mean-- yeah. [Laughter] I-- now that seems an ego sort of twist in following the path we're talking about. But at the same time I think we face a kind of condition in our own lives and the life of our society where perhaps some action in terms of service and in terms of social change is necessary. And yet not being ego-free, it's not clear how to function in that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's a question of basic trust, and vision are regarded as the same thing. That political theories, and certain ideology, could become disease, if there's no conviction. You are borrowing somebody's idea. And it's like you end up like Che Guevara. And just you disappeared in a South American jungle, with a great deal of ideal of Marxist-Leninist examples. But there was no nowness, in what's happening with the life.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think Buddhism is basically regarded as revolutionary, in anyway. But not in the revolutionary in the sense of the cCommunists talk about, or the fascists or whatever talks about, or the modernists talk about, particularly. But the Buddhist approach of revolution, or taking interest in politics and social development, is unplanned one, therefore there's no philosophy. But there is some attitude that individuals have to take. So I don't see any particular problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the-- one of the first so to speak, motto, of Buddhist attitude to world, is the don't make a nuisance of yourself to the world, to begin with. And if that problem's taken care of, then you encourage somebody else not to make a nuisance of themselves to the world. So you grow up being useful, and not make a nuisance. And that seem to be the problem in the past: that somebody had a *great* idea, and they made nuisance to the society. And consequently end up killing each other, and suffers to all kinds of people has developed. So I think the question is, if you think really big, you then think very small at the same time. Whereas if you think is relatively big, then you don't think small enough. And you begin to trap yourself, you begin to hurt your friends and your people around you. So the Buddhist idea is that cosmic thinking, cosmic polity. Because of so much so, therefore it is, you know, microcosmic, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It seems that this approach would leave very little room for common action, on, say on an issue. Because you would be, in a sense, making a nuisance of yourself by trying to get more people to be concerned about a particular thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think it's a question of being timely, even that. And sometimes common actions become the way of suicidal, suiciding their own goal, by taking action, and premature. So I think-- I mean there is room for, you know, taking some steps or something like that. I wasn't afraid of creating Karma Dzong and Tail of the Tiger and dharmadhatus, and they came along okay. Although it's not regarded as political action particularly, but it has political implications, and spiritual implications behind the whole thing. But I think whole thing is that if you do something, do it properly, don't get defeated. If you do something, do it properly. And don't suicide your project. So there is room for common action but at the same time, it had to be timely. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That makes very good sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, it takes a long time to practice that. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=1814.0,2165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You talked about loneliness and love. What about some sort of continuation of the sense of celibacy or a literal-- taking aloneness a little bit more literally? That seems to be, at least in the past, a very important aspect of the meditative tradition. Could you say something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think there's no problem. It's up to-- depends on the individuals, definitely. How the individuals relate with their situation. As long as your loneliness doesn't become... cozy home. As long as that problem is being looked at. Or just a different way of crucifying yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Working with that seems to be very tricky in this country, at least at this time. Do you see the-- that working into the scene with Karma Dzong or Tail?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very much so. [Laughter] Yeah, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think there is lots of room to express different traditions of Buddhism. There's-- so far what we have expressed and what we worked is the yogi's tradition. Of group of married people, or group of people who haven't taken any particular vow, of monastic vow, living together. And that is the protection, or basic foundation. And from that step onward, there is the possibilities of monastic community. And further yogi's community, and the communities of learned philosophers, and all kinds of things. I think there's no problem. And what we are doing is not-- at this point is not exactly over the hump, but we are on the way to the hump.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What's the hump? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hump! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2165.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: You talk of the refuge ceremony as a point where I-- as I understood it, there was no turning back. Is that sense it feels almost as magical point, or mystical point, when actually a commitment prior, or a vow prior to the ceremony. How do you evaluate that, I mean in relationship to the ceremony?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you trying to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: In other words, the refuge ceremony, does that-- is that a critical-- is the ceremony a critical area or a critical part of the practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's part of landmark. Rather then-- I don't know what you mean by \"critical.\" Can you elucidate that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well, you talked of salva-- you know, no one's saving you, no one being able to save you, at a certain point. In other words, you opened yourself up and there's no possibility of help, so forth. That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: --seems to be tied into the refuge ceremony.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so. I think it's finally taking-- acknowledging that nobody can save you. You got to work on yourself. And final confirmation to that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Final.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, final thing, yeah. That you are becoming refugee, stateless. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I feel like a refugee right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, but you still have, I'm sure... milk waves in your mind. [Laughter; laughs] Milky waves in your mind, yeah.  [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2322.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The word refugee means that going into another country to take shelter--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. SPEAKER7: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily in this case. That the word refugee here means that you lost your country.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And then you take refuge in yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You take refuge, not in yourself, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Where?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To the Buddha as example, dharma as the path, sangha as companionship. [Laughter] That you take refuge in how other refugees made their refugeeship.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And no land?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No-man's-land. You don't have to pay a tax. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2495.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When you talked about that, you said that the refuge vow was a commitment not to be sidetracked. Is this-- is it basically just that when your awareness develops? You know, you trust your own judgment so that you know what are sidetracks and what are really sort of continuations of the path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well I think instead of doing your nyinthun, if you stop on the Phil's [laughter] that's obviously sidetrack. [Laughter] And...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: That's a good example.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2559.0,2618.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said if you're meditating correctly, before, how do you know whether you're meditating correctly or not, besides the fact that you get bored? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think you know that there is-- it's not particularly metaphysical situation. It's a real situation: that if you meditate, that you have some experience as to... that there's a constant awareness is continuing. Rather than that you meditate, if you sat for two hours of sitting session, and you were there only twice, for one second, then something must be wrong there. And the rest of the time you are completely gone. You are not there. It's very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: When you say when-- if you were gone, what's the difference between that and sitting and your thoughts go to other places? And recognizing that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean if you're aware of your thoughts, there's no problem. Whereas if you are fantasizing complete journey, from the point of even packing your suitcase, and buying the airplane ticket, and flying off to India, and what places to visit, what stuff to buy, what gurus to visit. And then you try to return back, you come back, and you arrived back to your airport in your country, your people greet you at the airport, you come back home, and the gong rings. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So that the difference would be maybe that if you did that trip, but came back and said, \"Oh, I just did that trip,\" then that's meditating. And if you did the trip and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well meditating is-- there is different, very definite thing is being aware, is meditating, of what's happening. And developing awareness thing we've been talking about past few days. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2618.0,2754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Also you once said about that, being in the nowness was not necessarily being aware of the present thoughts, the discursive thoughts, that that wasn't essentially being in the nowness. In meditating. If you're aware of the discursive thoughts that are going on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's not--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Then that's--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's just awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That that's not necessarily aware of the nowness. Or what do you mean by nowness--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Which is impossible to do. So we do our best. Nowness-like, alike, nowness-type, is awareness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2754.0,2808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: This question has to do with the eternal quality that the dharma has. But perhaps it's more a question of the nature of time or the nature of truth. The Buddha seems to have seen things quite clearly, in terms of seeing reality clearly. Does that presuppose that no individual, today, having experiences if you will or going beyond experiences or whatever, can see reality in a way that is more valid, or is new in some sense, or is different and harmonious with the way things are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean is there another Buddha?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: No, I mean, is there only the way that the Buddha saw things as reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there only thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there anything that he saw? Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I said, you mean is there other than his view?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very difficult to say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: As reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As reality. But because Buddha is not one person; he has lost his ego. So we can't refer to him as actually \"the Buddha\" at all. He is just \"Buddha\", without any articles ahead of it; his name, just \"Buddha.\" Like just \"fire\", \"water\", \"space\", \"Buddha.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Are you leading to the conclusion that one reaches-- well, that the conclusion that the Buddha draws, which is the conclusion that is the only conclusion that can be reached in terms of reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think as far as Shakyamuni is concerned that's the case. But then that was happened in India. But there may be another conclusion happens all over the country. Like if somebody in India tasted sweet, taking sugar, that's the only experience of sugar that that person had experience. But somebody in Massachusetts taste sugar, that's the only experience in person in Massachusetts does, and so forth. That maybe million people taste sugar; that's the truth of sugar. So we can't say Buddha only taste the taste of sugar, particularly. But we could say Buddha's taste of the sugar is accurate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: It sounds like accurate but not necessarily complete.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily unique, particularly. Not necessarily there's only one who taste sugar, in the whole universe. But I think the whole idea is that there has been lot of enlightened type of people, who just developed their approach, maybe a lot of them as plumbers, butchers, and goodness knows, all kinds of people. That who had come to same conclusion as Buddha. But some strangest coincidence that Buddha decide to say that to other people, that he try to relay that to other people. Whereas I'm sure in the past history or past case, there are hundreds of people who had experienced that type of reality. Maybe you are one of those. [Laughs] Tell us the truth. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=2808.0,3083.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Has your Buddhist training taught you to be one of those people?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Can you wait for the microphone, we're not getting any of the sound.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: After your-- all your being a reincarnate lama, and all the time you spent studying and training, does that make you-- enable you to perceive things the way the Buddha did?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's difficult to say, because I'm not Buddha of India, or Gautama Buddha. So we never met each other to exchange our notes. [Laughter] It's difficult to say. I mean, there's no particular point in trying to be like him, particularly. In any case I couldn't be Indian, I'm Tibetan. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No, but I mean-- [laughter] Outside of culture? Just have the same--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hopefully, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --frame of mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the idea. [Laughs; laughter] Yeah. [Laughs] That's the idea. That's why Americans meditating, you know. Doesn't have to be Indian, or Tibetan. [Laughs] Sure. I buy that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=3083.0,3177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another one? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But if an American meditates or an-- a universal man meditates, one who has no-- who is not a-- who is a refugee, meditates, and sees things in a way which is not compatible with the dharma, does that mean [laughter] that he is not seeing clearly? Is there only the way that Buddha saw things? And is that-- is my question a question about the nature of time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Time? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Time. Is the way he saw-- Buddha saw things, or-- and not just one buddha but all buddhas. The way that things are seen, does that transcend any specific period of time on Earth where scientific discoveries or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does transcend, obviously, yeah. If American become a Buddha, and he will know about televisions and motorcars, whereas Buddha of Buddha -- Gautama Buddha time have no ideas of those gadgets. It would be different, sure. [Laughs] It's very simple. [Laughs] You should look at it in a very simpleton way. I think it's very simple. And you have to look at that way. That's-- otherwise there's no way of measuring anything. That omniscient Buddha doesn't necessarily mean that he knows about computer machine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But he does know conclusively about the nature of mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nature of mind, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And mind's relationship to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah, yeah. And as much as somebody who is enlightened in America, in Austin, Texas, tonight, would have same conclusions as Buddha. But except the difference is different time situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But the-- definitely the same conclusion. Any difference would be not seeing clearly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Were different conclusions to be drawn about the nature of reality? He--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There would be no different conclusions about nature of reality, which is one nature of reality there is always.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I got it, I heard it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I should have said is \"zero.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=3177.0,3358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93906/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should close our seminar here, this point. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Life goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Life goes on, as you said. Well said. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nI would like to request you that you try to keep heed in what we have discussed, and try to do something about it, your practice and everything. Lot of you came here and sat, practiced, so hopefully you will be able to continue that way, a certain amount of time in your life. Which helps great deal. To yourself, and also that the time and energy and effort that we put here does not become wasted, in a sense. That the Tail of the Tiger's property didn't serve further reinforcement of karmic debts. But hopefully that our property served as the cause and effect for people to free from their karma. So, I hope you'll be able to work harder in your practice, and please, please, please do so. And it is very important.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it seems to be there a lot of time to do things, but at the same time it is very urgent. And neurosis creeping out, constantly. And a lot of people being put into painful situations by the insanity. So we have a lot of responsibilities. We have a great deal of responsibilities. You have consideration to relate with your friends, your parents, and your kin people. That whoever associated with yourself, it's up to you whether you're going to relate with them in terms of bringing down into a samsaric mess, or trying to give some help. Which doesn't mean to say that you have to convert everybody into Buddhism particularly, but you have to behave yourself first. So in order to do that you need to do lots of practice, sitting meditation. So, there is a chain reaction takes place, and you individually hold very important place in your universe, and particularly United States of America. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo keep those in mind, and thank you for being very patient. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207#t=3358.0,3531.45069"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93907","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740913VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/170326/file/309207/transcript/93907/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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