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Skillful means as precision; wisdom as relating with one’s living situation thoroughly. Meditation as ground of basic sanity for bodhisattva, requiring absolute presence, compassion, and absence of goal-orientation. Attitude toward meditation not one of achieving some ideal or rejecting badness, but rather a compassionate view, complete acceptance of both shortcomings and positive qualities of oneself and others. \"Bodhisattva's attitude of saving other sentient beings is that they are confused and also they are fertile ground at the same time.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 31 2020 to Jan 15 2024 Transcribing: Sophie Perks Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz, Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBodhisattva path involves skillful means and wisdom, with generosity as integral part. Skillful means as precision; wisdom as relating with one\u0026rsquo;s living situation thoroughly. Meditation as ground of basic sanity for bodhisattva, requiring absolute presence, compassion, and absence of goal-orientation. Attitude toward meditation not one of achieving some ideal or rejecting badness, but rather a compassionate view, complete acceptance of both shortcomings and positive qualities of oneself and others. \"Bodhisattva's attitude of saving other sentient beings is that they are confused and also they are fertile ground at the same time.\"\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/669/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706540279","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706540262_19720326VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4689.12088,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/669/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706540279","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/669/original/1706540262_19720326VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1706540264","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4689.12088,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720326VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19720326VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Bodhisattva Path - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Bodhisattva Path, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number two, March 26, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made July 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Bodhisattva Path, second talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\n[audio starts mid-sentence]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --discuss the basic bodhisattva's attitude to accepting negativity as a part of the stepping-stone, which could be said that of skillful means of bodhisattva. And skillful means in this case is that which situation where bodhisattva is involved, is part of his or hers commitment and a sense of generosity that a bodhisattva involved. And you cannot have generosity, complete generosity, without skillful means. And the skillful means become part of the [UNCLEAR: airway?] to generosity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=29.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, since we are going to discuss the ten stages of bodhisattva's path in the coming session of [INAUDIBLE] seminar, that it seem that it would be good to discuss the preparatory process that a bodhisattvas goes through, in terms of both skillful means as well as in terms of meditation or wisdom. When we talk about \"wisdom\", which is \"jnana\" in Sanskrit, wisdom is that experience which relate with the living situation thoroughly and completely, that cease to become experience. It becomes expression rather than experience, that you are completely involved with what you are, the daily living situation and your livelihood, whatever it may be. So it becomes expression of life rather than wisdom in the sense of regarding some external information that could benefit you. So in this case that when we are discussing the bodhisattva's action, that particular action of nonduality, that particular action, complete absorption into the living situation also becomes a union of skillful means and wisdom -- in other word, meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=97.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I thought it might be good that since we are going to involved with the nyinthun practice tomorrow, whole day meditation practice, that we could get into the idea of meditation as preparatory practice of bodhisattva. That bodhisattvas have to prepare his ground. That ground is basic sanity, in which there is no contradiction or no confusion between his livelihood and what he is -- completely getting into the process of what he is working with, working for, whatever it may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=210.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So meditation this case automatically requires tremendous, absolute presence. That particular presence, in terms of meditation practice of bodhisattva, is not so much of a deliberate presence, deliberate concentration, deliberately watching yourself. But it is that process that bodhisattva is involved in terms of *being* -- fundamentally, sympathetic and compassionate state of being, softness, nonaggression, nonspeed. So question is that the bodhisattva is made out of, so to speak, the-- or the constituents of bodhisattva's mind is that of compassion, that of generosity, which both mean absence of pursuit, absence of speed, absence of goal-oriented mind. Because that non-goal-oriented mind of bodhisattva's function becomes process of its livelihood. Therefore the bodhisattva's meditation also becomes human one, or individual one, in other word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=262.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Individual one in the sense that bodhisattvas constantly develop that acknowledging themselves a worthy person, that they do not have to reject themselves as a bad person, failure. That does not automatically mean that they are seeing the good side of them and they-- and reject their bad aspects of them at all. Bodhisattvas in this case also contains-- they have the idea of precision because of their skillful means. That precision allows them to see that they have shortcomings, negativities of all kinds. But at the same time also they have the creative and positive qualities as well at the same time. So both polarities does not hinder a bodhisattva's wide view, exposure, to relate with themselves at all. So that's meditation practice in this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=364.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that meditation practice in this case, like that we are actually involved ourselves into this particular practice that is that we should not think the terms of that we are going to become ideal person, absolutely good, so that we are worthy of practicing meditation because we are pure, that because we are purified, that because we are good, because we have rejected sin or weakness or badness, wickedness, what have you. Somehow that rejecting wickedness or the sin and in trying to replace it by-- trying to replace them by good and healthy attitude or purity, self-respective attitude does not help at all. Once we begin to do that, automatically that we are replaced by our pride and our own ideal achievement of that \"I am become ideal person that I would like to be.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=430.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that bodhisattva's attitude to meditation is therefore compassionate one. When we talk about compassion it's not that of feeling sorry for someone -- somebody's under their health, we are healthy person therefore we are able to save them from their accident or the chaos, at all. There is no sense of superiority in terms of compassion. So in other word it is quite a different from the idea of charity in the conventional sense be described, as that you must save other person because they are blind, they have to be saved, because you be saved already, therefore they have to be brought up into your level of freedom. Or that they have to brought up to your level of independency, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=500.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bodhisattva's attitude of saving other sentient beings is that they are confused and also they are fertile ground at the same time. So because of they have so much potential therefore the bodhisattva just purely relating with the things are-- as they are, as well as their individuality, their personality is concerned. So that we have this particular approach of bodhisattva's attitude to compassion is communication in other word, rather than idea of superiority, that \"I should save them, I know better than they do\" or so forth. So this idea of compassion, as we talk about \"karuna\", which is ultimate intelligence, which allows us to communicate with a given situation, whether it is positive or negative. Which is practice of meditation in this case, because meditation in this case is not absorbing into some spiritual, hierarchical, trance-like situation at all. It is purely being right there, being here now, as far as a bodhisattva's attitude is concerned. It is precisely being there, precisely getting into the situation, and able to communicate with situation and precisely involving into the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=562.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Likewise we could say that our approach, our practice of meditation is the bodhisattva's practice of meditation. That we do not reject because we are condemned person or because we are full of sin, or full of bad thoughts, whatever it may be. That we are healthy person who could maintain the psychological neurosis, as well as the potential that we have. That we are healthy person, able to bear this particular burden of good and bad. Polarities could exist on our basic being, so therefore nothing wrong with us at all, absolutely wrong with us. That we are not particularly bad or not particularly good either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=660.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And meditation practice is acceptance of that, having acceptance of the both polarities of our psychological state. And *then* one begin to relax more. One does not create extreme hope or extreme fear at all. One begin to open whole basic being, to relate with what's happening actually there, which is ultimate idea of compassion. In the Tibetan term of compassion is \"nyingje\" which means \"noble heart.\" Noble in the sense of that visionary open heart, noble and visionary. That you don't reject any extreme or dark corners, that mysterious corners at all. That you accept all these areas completely, thoroughly and fully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=716.0,771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So practice of meditation from the Buddhist tradition altogether, from this point, is that seeing beyond hope and fear. That one does not have to coincide or try to be on the side of hope, think good, that \"I am going to be saved and that I am good.\" For that matter, on the other hand we do not have to relate with fear, that \"I am going to be condemned, I'm a sinner, and I'm bad,\" or such at all. So bodhisattva's practice from this point of view is acceptance of both situations, in two polarities. Without those polarities that we can't exist. We can't have Earth, global Earth, without South Pole and North Pole -- because that situation of South Pole and North Pole, that we have the Earth. And it's Earth's manifestation, Earth's endornment [sic], so to speak, that we have two polarities, which makes that we have four seasons, which makes fertile situations, change of situation happens constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=771.0,845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So practice of meditation from this case is not trying to achieve a blissful state, or a relaxed state, or trance-like state, at all. But it is basically facing things as they are. Having faced things as they are, then hidden neurosis that does exist, throughout the generations of generations, as well as lives and lives of process of self-deception, is begin to come about, begin to come out on the surface. When the water is clear and undisturbed, pond is clear and undisturbed, the rubbish which is underneath begin to come up and begin to come on the surface. Even if it doesn't come up to the surface that we begin to see what's rubbish underneath this pond, because the water is so clear, there's no waves, there's no ripples, what have you. We are able to see a transparent way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=845.0,915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seeing transparent way of what is exists underneath our neurosis, underneath our neurosis which is the pretend to be not neurotic, pretend to be sane and solid, manageable. That you manage your life, that we manage our situations as though we are perfect, solid citizen. We could handle our problems, handle our business, we could pay our checks. Sensible person, good guy. Somehow or other we begin to discover that we are not as good as we thought. Once we let ourselves to be as what we are, then the self-deception begin to come through, or shine through, come up to the surface. Meditation process is therefore way of bringing out hidden neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=915.0,982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And way of bringing out hidden neurosis in terms of bodhisattva's action is concerned, what's called \"dhyana\" -- Sanskrit. Tibetan word \"samten\", which means... \"sam\" means \"cognitive mind\", \"ten\" means \"deep-rooted\" or \"solid.\" So deep-rooted cognitive mind begin to come through. Which is \"dhyana\", or \"zen\" as it be known in the Japanese language, which is somewhat a corruption of \"dhyana\" becomes \"zen\" -- \"ch'an\" and \"zen\" throughout the historical process. The language been adopted to local situation. So \"zen\" means \"dhyana\", \"ch'an\", \"samten.\" Solid cognitive mind, deep-rooted cognitive mind. That's means \"primordial intelligence\" is the meditation, this case. In reference to that a lot of scholars have translated as \"samten\", \"dhyana\" as \"concentration,\" \"trance,\" \"state of absorption\" and all the rest of it. But somehow if you look into the real meaning of what \"samten\" means, is that: because that things been seen by the cognitive mind, therefore there is no misleading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=982.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Therefore somewhat you be bewildered by that such discovery of cognitive mind is free to operate. So you be bewildered by such discovery, which leads into somewhat what might call trance-like situation. That[UNCLEAR: you've learned? you're warned?] that you be fascinated by the so many discoveries that we make, by allowing the cognitive mind to happen. But by allowing the cognitive mind to happen or expose itself, its expressions and everything, that in itself means solid or deep-rooted -- \"ten\", \"samten.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1087.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic idea of meditation in this case is not so much of you get certain sedatives, result of practice, that you become insensitive to your pain or confusion, at all, which generally seem to be used by rousing yourself up -- beating drums and chanting up, and finally you sent to sleep of some kind. That's the popular idea, if I may say so. [Laughs] That rousing yourself up to such higher powered high-- higher consciousness, quote quote. [Laughter] Once you get higher, you don't care about the what's down there because that's dirty part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1133.0,1191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhism as I have mentioned last night is very dry -- too sensible, irritatingly sensible, scientific, and so forth. But at the same time it's very cunning, knows all the mental tricks that ego might play. And there's counter-tricks involved with Buddhsim as well. [Laughter] Of course these counter-tricks that involved with the practice of Buddhism are known as nine yanas. That there's counter-tricks of counter-tricks of counter-tricks goes up to nine levels. Basically these all counter-tricks of all kinds to destroy that trick. And destruction of that trick also may leave some impact, impressions in you. So then you have to create-- have to create another counter-trick to expose that trick. Having exposed that trick at that particular point and then you have to teach another one, so that we go up, up: hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana. And hinayana process has two yanas, and mahayana is bodhisattva yana, and vajrayana has six yanas, counter-encountering all the time, counter-tricks of tricks, of tricks, tricks. So finally nobody knows who is fooling who. [Laughter] So on whole that tricks begin to become redundant. So since nobody knows who is who, what is what, that no games involved -- that is what is called \"buddhahood\" or \"enlightenment\" in the ultimate sense, or attainment of dharmakaya.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1191.0,1318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have this case, getting down to earth, not getting carried away. The practice of meditation is the only way, *the* *only* way, there's no other than that. The word \"meditation\" we might say is overused or inaccurate in many cases. A lot of people ask, \"If you are meditating, if you practice meditation, what do you meditate *on*? What is the subject of meditation? What do you in your meditation?\" -- which is a linguistic inadequacy. If you have to use unfortunately this word \"meditation\", that that automatically implies like you're working. You can't just say \"working, I work\" but what do you work on? What does your work involve? That kind of thing. So we could say that \"I don't work, but I work. I just work. I don't work on anything, I just work.\" That seem to be the answer to meditation. \"I don't meditate on anything, I just do it.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1318.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case, verb is noun and noun is the verb, like many Sanskrit words. That when you have verb \"samadhi\", could be said is a verb, samadhi on what? But it is also a statement, becomes noun. It's like the Ramana Maharshi's teaching, that we have self-enquiry teaching. \"Who am I?\" is question. \"Who am I?\" with question. But on the other hand it is could be seen as statement. \"Who am I\" is just purely mantra, \"OM who am I SVAHA.\" [Laughter] It's just purely, I say, \"Who am I\" but I don't talk to anybody. Just \"Who am I, who am I, who am I, who am I, who am I\" is a statement. You don't ask question, but you are answer as well as your question. \"Who am I\" automatically provides tremendous space to work with \"who\" is undefined situation. \"Am I\" is what's the ground relating with \"who\" and \"I am.\" Whether you decide to put a period after it or decide to put a question mark after it -- that's *your* problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1399.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation is therefore in this aspect, this particular situation -- [unknown gesture or incident; laughter] -- is \"what we are is what we are\" as a statement. We are not meditating *on* anything, *upon* anything at all. On the other hand, you might say that you have to employ a certain amount of techniques, of course, to speak the language of meditation, disregarding who is doing what, what is doing who. We have to have some language developed, some statement. We need some incantation that we are meditating, definite statement, vajra statement you might call it, which is that we are meditating on particular things, but actually are not really doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1501.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a question of like the story of Madame Butterfly, it's the opera. That she is uncertain whether she was a butterfly or whether she was walking-- she was dreaming that she was walking on the bridge, or whether she was awake and she was thinking about that she was walking on the bridge. It is uncertain that who is fooling who. It is uncertain there is kind of-- some kind of flip between the two situation, whether we are meditating or whether we are thinking that we are meditating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1565.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generally what happens is that we are thinking that we are meditating, to begin with. In actual fact that we are fooling ourselves that we are not thinking that, but we are actually meditating. [Laughter] That there is certain techniques of walking practice and breathing, identification with the breathing, and so and so forth, some techniques on the bodhisattva's path. But they are futile thing. They are part of mind's duplicity, but we have to work with mind's duplicity. I have my realm as \"I am\", I have \"me\" as my projections. So the whole process seem to be quite simple in this case.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussion on that. Questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1602.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, when you describe [INAUDIBLE WORDS] transition from what we've [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that from the hinayana's process is concerned that there is a definite, basic process that you use the things that happens around you. Like you have your body, you have your breathing-- breath, you have your physical movements, you have your domestic matters to take care of. But those are the basic things that we work on, part of meditative practice. In the case of mahayana that there is a body, there is a mind, there is a domestic situation, but at the same time the implication behind that is being looked at as well. So in other word that you have a simpleminded situation and you also have the psychological attitude to that as well. So in the case of mahayana that one's look upon psychological attitude -- how you view your cup of tea in terms of mahayana. But in terms of hinayana that you don't question about how you view your cup of tea -- your cup of tea *is* cup of tea, it is so. So that kind of simpleminded as well as the experience of space around it. That seem to be basic, very crude way of putting it, but that seem to be the basic trend, is the view and situation of the view is existing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1664.0,1771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is everyone's mind the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In the expression of going on the path, as you meditate, you have experiences which affect your pers-- which affect you. Does everyone follow-- well, I guess I know the answer -- everyone has their own path. But what I'm asking about, suppose you take that right now in the human species has a certain state of development, a certain evolution of the collective mind. It-- do-- can you see the process by which that changes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In terms of what? SPEAKER2: In terms of, say where it was 5,000 years ago as compared to now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I hope so -- we are not apes any more. [Laughter] That's quite simple it seem. Did you mean that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I do and I don't, because in a sense that-- [laughs] you could say that from the little that I know about what was true say 5,000 years ago or 10,000 years ago or when consciousness became a property of our species, I don't have a sense about what it is now when you consider the whole planet.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see why you worried about that. [Laughter] Okay, I mean archaeologically, very interesting. But from terms of our bread and butter. [Laughter] In other words the inspiration of put bread on butter is not our particularly-- I wouldn't say particularly our concern, but not particularly our-- we have satisfy hangup. We are so-- our situation is emergency situation that actually what we are now. It is that we trying to look for some first aid that we could get hold of. That we do not question that who manufactured this particular bandage or whatever it may be. That we are more concerned with what we are having, rather than who had already thought of this. Sorry. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1771.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You see, I'll have to give you a little winded speech. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You will. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A few years back-- a few years back so I used to go to restaurants and on the counter at the wall it used to say, \"The impossible we do, but miracles take a little longer.\" Now when I go out in everyday life, I see things and I fall into situations, and then I move myself and I go into the same samsaric merry-go-round that I'm trying to train myself not to do. Now I fall into that. Now, on the other hand, as I'm practicing and as I read some of your writings, and then we have that we should sail right through the situation without any boundaries. Now this is my sixty-four-dollar question: How can we sail through the situation, through the flow, without any boundaries, and how can we go in our everyday life and go into the situation and not stopping ourself with the dualities, and go through the situation in a practical way without our ego pulling our head in like a serpent, in and out? And still hold the situation, say that we're going to shoot right through the situation without binding ourselves. We kind of-- we kind of contradict ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Now I'm asking you for the solution. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I have no solution particularly. What I have to say is particularly not a solution at all. And I might be troublemaker [laughter] to the solution, what I have to say. However... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seem that we don't have to solve the problem before we started on the problem. It seem that we have to start on the problem to begin with, then problem solve by itself. Seems quite simple. That solving the problem is not our occupation, usually not. Getting into the problem is our occupation. Get hurt by the situation. We become victim of the problems, negatives. Death is birth and everything that we are born as human being, that we are involved with the samsaric whirlpool.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat we can do about it... I mean, it is not particularly sensible thing to do. As soon as you be born, you think you are going to get into trouble, that you can't commit suicide as infant because you thought you made a mistake. You can't commit suicide in your mother's lap. You see what I mean? That we have to grow, we have to look into what is the mistake I have made, regarding it is not a mistake at all, it is a deliberate thing that we been born, we've grown out of the mother's womb, nine months, and then we are born out in the world. There's no point in commit suicide at first starting point, but we have to look into the whole thing, work with the whole thing, trying to find out reason why there is this pain that's involved. Whether pain is creative or destructive, that's we have to find out, that's what we are here. In other word you could see the purpose of life is to find out the purpose of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=1921.0,2271.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could you distinguish between shamatha practice and \"vajrasana\" [sic] practice, and when the two are appropriate [UNCLEAR: the whole thing?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vajra what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When the two are appropriate.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one, the other one -- shamatha and the other one is vajra...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: \"Vajrasana\" [sic]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vajra what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Vipashyana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Vipashyana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well \"shamatha\" literally means \"development of peace.\" \"Vipashyana\" is \"development of insight.\" In other word that you have shamatha practice in your living situation of seeing that you breathe, you speak, you have all kinds of thoughts, good and bad thoughts. \"I am carrying a load of wood on my back.\" \"I am carrying my pitcher in my hand.\" \"I am pissing, shitting.\" \"I am breathing.\" \"I am having discursive thoughts.\" And, \"this is happening, that's happening, [INAUDIBLE] now.\" That's shamatha practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe vipashyana practice that involved around that is \"I am speaking environment of where I exist. That I am not only speaking but I am sharing the space around my environment.\" That we have sense of space as well. In other word, that \"I am making this pot with my potter's wheel.\" Shamatha approach is that \"I'm purely relating with the clay\" that revolves around on the potter's wheel. And the vipashyana approach is that \"I am not involved around potter's wheel purely create pot, but I am making sculpture of space around it as well.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is there a natural progression from one to the other?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Usually, yeah. Should be. Usually it happens, without any difficulty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2271.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, last night you were speaking of boycotting certain thoughts. And I wonder how you can boycott without feeding repression [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that you don't have to have suppression when you boycott, because you are not in war with them. You're not waging war with the thoughts. If you suppress then boycott you're waging war because you don't like it. Then if they comes back then you push them aside. Whereas the basic boycotting situation is just they are redundant, they are unnecessary. And you don't trying to destroy them before you throw them out. You just throw them out before you destroy them. Like when we throw garbage in the garbage can, we don't develop hatred towards them, we don't destroy them first but we put them into garbage can. Then somebody might through-- put through the incinerator or whatever it may be. [Laughs] In other words, we're dealing with another object, we're dealing with the cardboard boxes, you dealing with newspapers, whatever it is. \"This newspaper I read already and it is outdated.\" \"That cardboard box which contains something else I have used the inside of whatever it is, and cardboard box becomes irrelevant for my bottle of wine or whatever it may be.\" So you just-- it just goes away before you reject them, before whatever it is incinerated. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2440.0,2605.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Generally when you take something and put it in the garbage can, it's still on the premises and you have to wait for somebody else to take it away. [Laughter] The garbage man comes along and takes it away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [Laughter] Go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well how do you simply put it in the garbage can without yourself carrying it away? It seems like a very subtle thing to do. And if I have a thought, I could say, \"Oh, this is unnecessary.\" Then the thought will arise again and I'll still be aware that it's unnecessary. Is that simple awareness that it's unnecessary, is that putting it in the garbage can? Or is there anything more I should do to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's purely that you're putting it in process already. That you don't condemn *yourself* because you brought the garbage, therefore you don't need to get into the garbage can yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You let it go without repeating [UNCLEAR: itself?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So is it the guru who drives the garbage truck? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think you should have high hopes about the guru. [Laughter] I don't know [UNCLEAR: if that will work? if that's worse?] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2605.0,2713.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Isn't it possible in that situation to say that \"this is unnecessary\" but be labeling the situation? In other words the thought or whatever is still very much, you know, happening with you, but in your meditation you're saying, \"Oh, this is unnecessary\" you know? How do you [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't say it's unnecessary -- you say irrelevant, which is quite different from unnecessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Hmm. Well, that-- in other words some irrelevance at that particular moment because your practice entails something else, or irrelevant to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's irrelevant because that doesn't need. Creative situation is extra. Is extra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Extra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. You don't need a third eye because you have two eyes already. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, I was thinking it's possible that if it keeps happening you know, if you're dwelling on something and it keeps coming back, perhaps it *is* relevant, you know, because it's happening. And that to label it irrelevant and you know move away from it would be getting into that repression sort of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Because you don't develop hatred towards it because it's irrelevant, because of nuisance. It is not nuisance at all. It's useful, therefore it [UNCLEAR: I suppose? ] level of irrelevant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would you say that again? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's difference between talking on irrelevant and nuisance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah but useful, you said said it was useful, how--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nuisance--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --irrelevant and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You said it was useful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nuisance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Oh! Nuisance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Nuisance. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2713.0,2878.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Does the fact that you're saying some things are irrelevant, does that imply that there are some things which are not irrelevant, or is everything irrelevant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: There are some things in meditation, for example, [laughter] there are some things that are not irrelevant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some things are irrelevant, some things are relevant.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: But that's a duality!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well, what's relevant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your body. You have to eat here to be here, to survive. It's relevant because you have the body. You can't commit suicide when you meditate. You can't say that your body is irrelevant and therefore you could throw away.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Irrelevant to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Irrelevant to survival process, relative situation of dealing with thing. You could have dualistic approach. We-- you see that hopefully that we're not trying to attain anything higher or greater, at all. We are using what is *there* including the [UNCLEAR: craps? crabs?]. Duality is there, dualistic mind is there, so let's take advantage of it. But what comes beyond dualistic mind which is [INAUDIBLE WORDS] is irrelevant -- like dreams, fantasies are not really duality at all, they are something far away from that. Do you see what I mean? They are not solid duality, they are not definite duality, matter-of-fact duality at all, they are just faraway dreams. I mean, on a sense that you could say that dreams and thoughts are nondualistic thing which is irrelevant, just pure detachment. So what you're working with is that solid duality, matter-of-fact duality, that there is. Body and your breath, your movements of your body energy around you, eat, sleep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2878.0,3025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: At some point those things might become irrelevant too then, along the way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Not necessarily, but they might.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Particularly, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What about a [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Demand excessive attention.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Excessive attention to...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily at all. Because you can't demand that change body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yeah, but you can pay a little too much attention to...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the dream part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But when you say they kind of stem from survival, does that extend-- would that go throughout? You know what I mean like... I mean... how do you know where it comes from to see when you're laying a trip on-- let's say you're thinking in terms of health, when you're laying a trip on being healthy, you know, or when you're just doing it very naturally and very spontaneously?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, trip, I suppose means dream that point of view, and the domestic situation what needed to be done is actual situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3025.0,3122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Would survival become irrelevant at the moment of death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the moment?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Of death, when you think-- when you realize you're dying, then, right then, when you're...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. You have to die properly. [Laughter] Make sure that you're dying. But still it's a survival process. Same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3122.0,3161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In terms of survival, is physical pain synonymous with confusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Well, you see, the whole thing is there no such thing as physical pain, at all, none whatsoever -- from the Buddhist point of view, anyway. Any pain involved is psychosomatic pain. It is always a psychosomatic situations of-- last night I was talking about the pain of the cognitive mind, and pain of the psychosomatic body, pain of the environmental body. Which all included in the large area of judged and worked and conceived in terms of intelligence mind, logical mind. So you have no other way at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Are you saying that you get a toothache, it's psychosomatic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Then you don't need to see a dentist--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Then there'd be no need to see a dentist, to straighten it out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all. You have to see-- *more* reason you have see dentist-- should see a dentist. Because it is psychosomatic pain. [Laughter] Do you remember what is psychosomatic pain? There's no reason that you shouldn't feel it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: You're not saying that the pain doesn't-- isn't real. Like you're just saying...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: You're not saying that the pain isn't real.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't say pain is unreal, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE] the nature of the pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The nature of pain is made a snowball situation of other around or whatever it may be. [Laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Can you-- can it be cured?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, your dentist is also a psychosomatic doctor. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: But is there the possibility of dealing with death, I mean that particular--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No because then you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: --work with the problem of psychosomatic pain itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't. Impossible. You work-- you have to acknowledge psychosomatic mess of it by going to the dentist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: But how about these guys in India that don't eat for ten years or whatever? [Laughter] Because it appears that whole psychosomatic area of their hunger, at least somewhat or something like-- I mean they are around I guess.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They still drink milk. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: They still?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Drink milk.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: One glass a day for eighteen years [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever it may be that's psychosomatic thing. They have to still breathe the air. That's also psychosomatic thing. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Is pleasure psychosomatic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Is pleasure psychosomatic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Pleasure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Pleasure?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3161.0,3409.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: I can see how the feeling of a broken tooth would be psychosomatic. But when I see the dentist, all he fixes is the tooth itself. Whether I felt it or not he would still have to fix it. So it seems to me-- it seems to me he is not psychosomatic, he's simply a physical doctor. In what sense--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, physical is psychosomatic anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Psychosomatic isn't imaginary, it's just where it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, when we're driving on a car, highway, that is psychosomatic.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well, but you talked about three bodies, and one was the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: --physical body and one was the psychosomatic body.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: The physical body itself isn't psychosomatic body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Physical body is the environmental body rather than physical body, which [UNCLEAR: remains? means?] with psychosomatic body is chain reactions.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Is my hand part of my psychosomatic body or my environmental body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: If I were dead, would my hands be part of my physical body or my environmental body, my psychosomatic body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Still? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3409.0,3485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Is there no possibility of curing that particular situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure there is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: You can cure the psychosomatic thing [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, when we talk about psychosomatic, it's not regarded as illness or sickness as such, that you're a condemned person. It seems when we talk about illness, sickness and then when we talk about psychosomatic thing that automatically the general trend in thought is that we are condemned, unhealthy. We have to be very clear about that. It's psychosomatic in a wider sense, you know, it's environmental situation what we share with dualistic [INAUDIBLE] is psychosomatic thing altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3485.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE27: Is there a distinction between the word \"psychosomatic\" and \"psychophysical\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Psychophysical is the environmental body. Psychosomatic is the impulsive body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Say what part?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impulsive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Would that come in the fourth aggregate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fourth what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Aggregate. In the fourth...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Skandha? I'd say that it comes with the first skandha, which is form, as well as samskara, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Then it couldn't just be [INAUDIBLE WORDS] ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That includes transcending psychosomatic environmental body or what have you. Asking a lot, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3535.0,3595.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Is pain and confusion a result of the difference between my psychophysical body and the environmental body? I'll put this another way. Can't there be a difference between the psychophysical and my psychosomatic body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think there could be any differences at all. The psychosomatic body is the circulations of your body. And psychophysical environmental body is that situation we should accommodate, that particular circulation. It's like your skin -- your outfit, birthday suit. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: So when you talk about pain, like in a toothache, is the origin of pain in the physical body or the psychosomatic body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Both, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It transfers information. There is a wrongness in the environment, rather than disorder in environment, which transfers the message to psychosomatic body, which transfers the message to the cognitive mind. Because [UNCLEAR: when-- so? you would say?] cognitive mind confirms that there's something wrong and relays the message back, so confirms from the central headquarters. So the process give-- become constantly confirmed on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3595.0,3697.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: If the cognitive body decides that there was nothing really wrong, that there was just a disorder, and sent back a message like that, then would there be pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Would there be what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Would there be pain? Well like if there was a broken tooth and the cognitive body said, \"Just don't worry, just get the tooth fixed, nothing else is wrong, it's just a break in the tooth.\" Then would-- I mean to say is that the kind of thing which would cause the pain to cease to exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, because when the cognitive mind doesn't confirm itself its chain law-- chains and reactions snowballs, chain reactions. And then cease to exist its confirmation of philosophy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Is that what [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Is that what the [UNCLEAR: cognitive?] is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: You mean just by like they use that for cutting off pain but you're saying it doesn't hurt too much, apparently doesn't hurt [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's quite different. That's conditioned mind to fool you that there is no psychophysical body, there is no environmental body at all, everything is mind, which is quite different. That's the approach of \"mind-only school\" in Buddhism you have what's called \"yogachara school\", which believes in that, but that's not a completely fundamental thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3697.0,3798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Rinpoche, are feelings relevant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Well you said that the body is relevant, and the thoughts and fantasies are not relevant. What about feelings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feelings seem to be just a kind of a medium, the tea boy which carries a message back and forth between the headquarter and between the body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Between the cognitive mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Could you offer an example of a feeling? I'm-- what do you mean by \"feeling\"? What is a typical feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Emotion. Emotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Sensation and emotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Well, emotions, I suppose but you're not-- I mean there are a variety of emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Would-- is love a feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Or hate?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Emotion? Feeling is subtleties of good and bad and neutral. Pleasure or painful, neutral. That very sensitive area which diagnoses what's happening around you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: But it seems that feelings are conditionable. Whether we perceive a certain situation as pleasurable is very dependent on our previous conditioning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean your tea boy is influenced by what central headquarter had to say as the other end, same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Well, so he's changed as he goes back and forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, he could possibly become your guard rather than tea boy, [UNCLEAR: you? who?] never have to be defended, useful servant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3798.0,3939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: But do you have the attitude to enlight-- it's fairly easy to see that one has the attitude to fantasy-- actual, say visionary fantasies or verbal fantasies. That it's easy to see how irrelevant they are. But it's not so easy to see whether in fact feelings are irrelevant or relevant. I mean whether you're talking about in the sitting meditation situation or even in everyday life, it's much more difficult to see the relevance of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well seem that you don't have to work with feeling. Feeling is that communicator rather than anything else. One doesn't have to bother about that at all. In other word, feeling has extroverted aspect as well as the introverted aspect, which is the subconscious mind, which is some messages already recorded and programmed, as computer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3939.0,4024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: So when we say something like, \"I feel miserable\" or \"My feelings were hurt,\" is that talking about what's happening basically? Or I mean, as you say, it's just a messenger or something that communicates, it seems at a very, well somewhat peripheral phenomenon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well when you say, \"I feel miserable, I feel bad\" we don't mean the feeling, really, we mean emotion. So we haven't actually seen the feeling, the psychophysical feeling at all. I mean that's the usual language.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: But then we can experience that, you know, that we talk about the experience of feelings, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Feeling is that in which communicate between the nothingness up to the somethingness. [Laughter] To begin with it nothing we can know about from anywhere at all -- it's open space. There is some spark of suddenly disorder appear. The feeling that is which it picks up that particular message, there is some chaos or disorder and trying to transmit into next situation emotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4024.0,4109.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Well how about emotions then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Emotions are irrelevant from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Are irrelevant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Irrelevant, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: But in that-- with that whole emotional thing, you can tie up a lot of energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can, yeah, because you have your body to relate with, psychosomatic or psychophysical body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: So in that sense--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: So the energy is tied up in the body--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the body, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: --*through* the emotions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: Oh, so if you want to relate to releasing that bound-up energy, you have to relate to the body rather than the emotions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to relate with the cognitive mind as well as the body-body situation, with their polarities. So if you want to grow a plant in earth you have to relate with heaven and earth. Heaven had to give rain, and earth had to grow-- had to bear the particular baby which produces plants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4109.0,4188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Rinpoche, does the bodhisattva view duality as equanimity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Does he view duality as equanimity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He views duality as knowledge, prajna.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: And that exists in the equanimity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which *is* equanimity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Which is equanimity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4188.0,4212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Rinpoche, to release your energy as long as you're bound up in emotions, you can't get a total release of that inner energy then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you can't. You have to have the confirmation of the cognitive mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] In order to release the energy of the emotions you have to have the confirmation of the cognitive mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Confirming what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Confirming that in the energy the tension is not all that big deal, it's not a big threat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4212.0,4254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Would that be similar to, say, what the Christians might call praying to God, asking, say, the cognitive mind to have [UNCLEAR: great silences?]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that that particular process seem to be quite a different. There's another sheath of areas built around it. You have a cognitive mind, you have a psychosomatic body, and you have a psychophysical body. And then beyond that the idea of cognitive mind covers whole area, and the territory of all thing which covered, which is so-called soul. Once you have a soul or physical definite thing, then also that [UNCLEAR: meant?] the whole relationships of what is outside, which is believed to be a divine entity outside your whole system. So somehow in this case of praying doesn't seem to help at all. And there seem to be just purely a redundant thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4254.0,4332.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Is the cognitive mind the central headquarter?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Or is that ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Cognitive mind which has the two sides is the extroverted situation, introverted situation. Extroverted situation related with the body situation, introverted situation is the maintaining that particular solidness of the body and everything, which is-- yeah, it is ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: I thought the cognitive mind couldn't exist without the physical body [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Cognitive mind what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Wouldn't exist without matter, sensation, perception, and then cognitive thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, cognitive mind automatically has this very hard and solid sheath around it, in which that we are able to [UNCLEAR: latch?] around with bardo situation and return to the-- another body situation as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: That sheath is the physical body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: And that sheath-- you mean that that sheath is the physical body?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's imaginary body of psychosomatic [laughing] body. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4332.0,4428.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Well there must also be a non-ego component in the cognitive mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah, I was expecting that question. [Laughter] That is true. That is the essence of freedom, independence -- that your cognitive mind does not depend on any confirmations or anything at all, just a fresh cognitive, primordial cognitive mind. And the diluted cognitive mind is a degenerated form of which depends on other things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Can it always be trusted?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what you mean by trusting?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: The cognitive mind, without the attachment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trusting in what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: In functioning as it should function, or as it functions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, generally we don't tend to trust that, because we don't have the solid confirmation of the body and other bodies, and we don't tend to trust it. Because that provides very secure situation. And when we begin to trust that then begin to break through the needlessness of other environment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Do you mean that our non-ego cognitive mind is one which still has a relation to the other bodies but doesn't feel a sense of dependence upon them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah. Which begin to turn into sambhogakaya and nirmanakaya principles of buddha aspects.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Doesn't have dependence on itself [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it doesn't at all because that would [INAUDIBLE WORDS] freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: How do you mean it begins to turn into sambhogakaya and nirmanakaya?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sambhogakaya aspect is the transcendent form of psychosomatic body. Nirmanakaya is transcendent form of psychophysical body.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: Oh, so when the-- you're saying when the cognitive mind is free in some sense then the psychosomatic body and psychophysical body change their manifestation as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, yeah. So then such buddhahood could communicate with ordinary people as well. Communication becomes speaking same language, but in a different style. Nirmanakaya communicate with psychophysical body and sambhogakaya communicate with psychosomatic body. We've become very technical. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4428.0,4600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: Is ego then a process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: Is ego then a process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That point, no. It's beyond ego because ego means that which try to maintain some link. Because link is already broken, there's nothing to dwell on anything at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: Well, the reason we have an ego then is because we can't accept our cognitive mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. As its complete and full potential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4600.0,4642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64008/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Might have to close this point. Tomorrow, nyinthun, and I would like everybody if could, take part in it. I think it's going to be very useful experience. That whole day of doing nothing [laughter], abandoning the intellectual game that we've been engaged. No [UNCLEAR: carrying? caring?] indulgency at all, just a simple situation of whole day of doing nothing. It could be very helpful, very useful. In case anybody would like to run away from it -- better not do it. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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be.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2574.68,2581.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you just-- it just goes away\nbefore you reject them,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2583.58,2588.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before whatever it\nis incinerated.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2588.69,2593.369"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROBIN KORNMAN: Generally when\nyou take something\nand put it in the garbage can,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2605.49,2608.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's still on the premises\nand you have to wait","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2609.56,2613.386"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for somebody else\nto take it away.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2613.386,2617.255"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The garbage man comes along\nand takes it 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How do you\n[INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2730.6,2733.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, you don't say\nit's unnecessary --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2733.29,2735.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you say irrelevant,\nwhich is quite different\nfrom unnecessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2735.83,2738.929"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11:\nHmm. 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Nuisance.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2865.08,2872.996"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD:\nDoes the fact that you're saying\nsome things are irrelevant,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2878.38,2881.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does that imply\nthat there are some things\nwhich are not irrelevant,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2882.87,2885.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or is everything irrelevant?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2885.77,2888.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD:\nThere are some things\nin meditation, for example,\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2888.27,2891.629"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there are some things\nthat are not irrelevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2891.629,2894.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nSome things are irrelevant,\nsome things are relevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2894.43,2896.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD:\nBut that's a duality!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2896.53,2898.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2899.56,2900.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JEREMY HAYWARD:\nWell, what's relevant?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2900.79,2903.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYour body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2905.26,2906.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have to eat here to be here,\nto survive. It's relevant\nbecause you have the body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2908.95,2914.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can't commit suicide\nwhen you meditate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=2915.39,2917.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can't say that your body\nis irrelevant and\ntherefore you could throw 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In the fourth...\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Skandha?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3555.87,3560.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd say that it comes\nwith the first skandha,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3566.26,3569.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is form,\nas well as samskara, you 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3758.71,3760.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER32: Is that what\nthe [UNCLEAR: cognitive?]\nis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=3760.03,3762.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4412.31,4413.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/908","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER45: And that sheath--\nyou mean that that sheath\nis the physical body?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669#t=4413.52,4416.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121528/file/226669/transcript/64009/annotation/909","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, it's imaginary body\nof 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