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Explains the way our sense of ego (confused mind) develops and solidifies through a framework known as the five skandhas or “heaps”: ignorance, feeling, impulse, concept, and consciousness. Covers many topics central to understanding ego and the skandhas, including: the basic split of self versus other; dualistic fixation; pigeon-holing things as “good” and “bad”; and the role discursive thought patterns and subconscious gossip play in solidifying the whole framework. Explains that skandhas are “heaps” because they represent the coming-together of many disparate particles that themselves have no fixed identity, providing a wonderful description of the point of view of egolessness.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 12 2020 to Feb 08 2021 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFascinating talk on the development of ego and the nature of existence (as fundamentally non-existent). Explains the way our sense of ego (confused mind) develops and solidifies through a framework known as the five skandhas or \u0026ldquo;heaps\u0026rdquo;: ignorance, feeling, impulse, concept, and consciousness. Covers many topics central to understanding ego and the skandhas, including: the basic split of self versus other; dualistic fixation; pigeon-holing things as \u0026ldquo;good\u0026rdquo; and \u0026ldquo;bad\u0026rdquo;; and the role discursive thought patterns and subconscious gossip play in solidifying the whole framework. Explains that skandhas are \u0026ldquo;heaps\u0026rdquo; because they represent the coming-together of many disparate particles that themselves have no fixed identity, providing a wonderful description of the point of view of egolessness.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/572/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346916","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-lyw1lr.mpga"]},"duration":3857.08408,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/572/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346916","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/572/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-lyw1lr.mpga?1759343510","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3857.08408,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740206VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740206VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1974 - Class 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes, 1974, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is class number three, The Psychology of Ego, held February 6th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight we are going to discuss the psychology of ego. There are a few things I would like to make clear: that word \"ego\", and way we use word \"ego\". In the context of Buddhism, the ego is referred as basic state of mind which contains neurosis, confusion. Which is similar to Sanskrit word \"alayavijnana\", which is \"storehouse of consciousness\". In this case \"consciousness\" is referred as state of mind which is utterly confused. And we have a problem of using word \"soul\" and \"ego\", \"being\", all kinds of things. That word \"ego\" is regarded as something which is extremely convenient to us to give name to certain state of mind which is unspeakable. That we know our own confusion, and we know our own chaos, and we know our own neurosis, and decide to give name to it as a kind of euphemism. So from that point of view, even using word \"soul\" or \"ego\" is regarded as pejorative from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=28.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in the Western psychology there seem to be different approaches of using word \"ego\" as being basically developing some sense of self-respectability, some sense of sanity, and earthiness, and everything. But in this case that when we use word \"ego\", it is purely referred as neurosis, insanity, confused. And a lot of confusions comes from trying to hold onto one's identity. And ego is the identity, and holding onto one's identity produces further neurosis -- love, hate, jealous -- all kinds of things. So therefore the word \"ego\" is been used in this particular context.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=191.0,265.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The case history of ego, as concerned, is very clear. That at the beginning, there is a sense of utter chaos and not knowing who \"you\" are, what it is, so there is sense of complete confusion and failed to discriminate between yourself and your projections. And here the idea of -- or term \"projection\" -- is similar to that of echo, bouncing back on us. That louder we shout, that much powerful echo comes back to us. Which is another form of confirming our existence is projection, put it very simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=265.0,334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So ego begins with what's called \"ignorance\". And word \"ignorant\" here is *somewhat* based on a certain amount of intelligence. That you don't want to perceive your stupidity, and therefore you begin to create all kinds of cover-ups. So it is regarded as more of an *ignoring* oneself, terms of ignorance. A definite approach towards hiding any neurosis and any embarrassment which might be threatening to one's existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=334.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So at the beginning of ego, that there is constant bewilderment. You are bewildered because you are uncertain to who you are, what you are, and you are uncertain as to how you should proceed yourself, and also you are bewildered because that you have no particular games in mind to improve -- or to prove -- sense of existence. And from that arises what's called \"feeling\" -- that is a sense of looking for ground to prove one's existence. And that is based on experiencing textures of all kinds, whether textures are pleasant to you, whether textures are threatening to you, or in between. What's called \"feeling\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=406.0,506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The analogy is that blind man trying to find out what kind of area he's sitting in -- whether he is in a house, or whether he is in outdoor, whether he is in a desert -- that he extend his arm and feel the ground where he's sitting in, living on. Whether there any dangers involved, maybe possibly thorny grounds growing -- thorny plants growing around him -- or whether it is a secure carpet around him. That sense of trying to feel the basic territory. At this point territory -- territorial -- notion hasn't quite become sharpened enough but purely trying to feel the basic ground that where you might experience a sense of being in context with what ground you are on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=506.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that is what's called \"impulse\". That impulse is a sense of playing games with your discovery of your ground. If you're blind, and you felt carpet under yourself, then you might trying to bang the floor, play little games that knowing that area you are on is safe and secure, and you might make further adventure and trying to find out whether this floor where carpet is sitting on is made out of concrete or wood. You trying to bang on the ground, you trying to kick around your environment, chairs and tables around you, somewhat slightly jokily, humorously, but at the same time it is very pathetic, at the same time. Impulse is trying to communicate with ground you are on and still trying to make relationship with *that*, particular ground you are on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=584.0,680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is a sense of what's called the idea of \"concept\". That you're trying to conceptualize that area you felt, is-- has its own valid labels on them, conceptualized, metaphysical meanings behind that. That you trying to put them into a particular reference point opposed to from the point of view of your ideas to how world should function, and how you would like world should function, and the concept -- ideas, concept. And finally you manage to make world into pigeonholing. That there is a greater goal than purely my existence. And there is a domestic goal, there is emotional goal, whatever. That there is a sense of making one's area as a definite area in which you can label them as \"good\" or \"bad\". Definitely you could reject that particular area, or you could accept that particular area that you felt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=680.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And last one is developed is what's called \"consciousness\", which is consciousness in the sense of not particular being awake or alive, as such, but consciousness in the sense of a further emotional overtone to what you have discovered. Saying that, \"This is threatening to me therefore I should get outraged. I should defend my territory.\" And, \"This is extraordinary comforting, beautiful, seductive, therefore I must have it.\" And all kinds of emotions begin to derive from that particular process, of having sense of territory, sense of area, and then sense of labeling, and sense of finally decide to become brave. That you can do something with them. That you can make love to them, and you can make enemy out of them, and you can be jealous of them -- fundamentally, completely, thoroughly. That's called \"consciousness\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=819.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that particular consciousness also has another facade, another game. That is in order to maintain, in order to keep oneself alive, that one tend to create thought patterns, ordinary subconscious mind, subconscious gossips, and discursive thoughts of all kinds, to keep that particular emotional attitude to life is kept going. So that there is a sense of continuity, the sense of purpose to your existence, at this point. That you can function your life accordance with the thought patterns, emotions, concept, impulse, feeling, and ignorance. That everything is kept alive. There is some functional situations taking place, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=910.0,1021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could equally have some kind of goal and some kind of project. That when we begin to realize that ordinary functions of our life, and our existence, are safe and secure, seemingly that we can function our mind accordance what we would like to happen, how we like to function. At the same time, that we might have discover certain spiritual disciplines, of all kinds. And those discoveries also could be used as the same kind of way to maintain our ego. That various spiritual exercises, disciplines, were given to us, are used as part of our subconscious gossip, subconscious minds, function to maintain the emotionality of our mind. And also philosophical, spiritual discoveries could be used as part of the intellect, concept. And also part of the impulse, that we are making some connection with a higher goal. At the same time, that that could be used as also feeling, that experiencing spiritual ecstasy, and spiritual, mystical experience, whatever they may be. The euphoric state could be used as a feeling. And finally you get sucked into this fundamental state of being, which is supposed to be absorption, which is basically ignorance state. One can use any kind of spiritual disciplines from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1021.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be one of the leading point for us to understand is that there is-- the function of ego, or purpose of ego, is to begin with to exist, to survive, our neurosis. And neurosis a basic split which is related with the ignorance of the first one we discussed -- the basic split. Basic split, in this case, is a split between oneself and the other. And that doesn't necessarily mean to say that in the non-ego level that you should not feel \"oneself\" and \"other.\" But in the case of basic split, it is split because you are holding onto the separation between-- you are proving something to your projections. So therefore, it is could be called \"dualistic fixation\". It is still fixation. That when one has a sense of fixation, sense of you are fixed -- in a certain, particular, neurotic state -- you are holding onto it. You are actually fail-- you're failing to see things as they are, properly, so you get a very confused and utterly confused state of nonduality. Because your fixations are so high, so complete, so you are trying to separate \"you\" and your \"enemy\". But at the same time, the enemy becomes you, you become enemy, at the same time. So that's kind of artificial nonduality, trying to look for-- trying to hang onto basic fixation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1142.0,1270.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the term \"duality\" or \"dualistic mind\", dualistic attitude that's been referred in the literatures, are related with the notion of sense of extraordinary separation, haunted us, therefore we panicked on that. We panicked *so* much, that we begin to lose who we are being panicking of, how we are confused. So the object of fear, and the person who is fearing of, become -- absolutely become one. And therefore you get completely black out. And you become completely ignorant, reduced into nothing -- or everything if you [laughing] like to call it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1270.0,1327.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, that fundamental neurosis -- as we decide to call it in the Buddhist terms, that those terms that I use are transliterated-- translations of, of course, from the Sanskrit origin or the Tibetan origin. But the term \"neurosis\" here means that a fundamental neurosis in which that you lost contact between what you are, and what you might not be, and we lost contact. And we are unable to even label them clearly and precisely as things as they are. That is normal function of everybody's psychological state, according to Buddhism. That in according to Buddhist tradition that unless you attain enlightenment, that everybody is neurotic, confused. Everyone's state of mind is distorted, everyone's vision is distorted completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1327.0,1422.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So those five types of state of consciousness are called \"skandha\" in Sanskrit, s-k-a-n-d-a [sic], skandha. There are five skandhas. \"Skandha\" means \"heap\" or \"pile\", \"collection\", comparable to garbage of heap. There are five types of garbage piles. [Laughter] The organic one and mechanical one, whatever. And reason why it is called \"skandha\" is because you can't call \"soul\" as one thing, and it is a collection of a lot of little things made out of. That you have the ignorance, you can't call *this* is the ignorance, but there's ignorance has all kinds of little constituents that create the ignorance. As well as to the feeling, which is second one, has made out of a lot of other things. And the concept is also made out of lot of other things. And the consciousness is also made out of lot of little things. So collection of a lot of little things are consist of what's called \"skandhas\" or the \"the five skandhas\". So that's the basic mind. So therefore we cannot call ourselves that having \"one being\" as such; that our basic existence are consist of those five types of heaps. Heap within heap, particle within the particle, so that it is piled of a lot of other things built together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1422.0,1544.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the notion of egolessness from this point of view. Therefore it is prominent that we can't call ourselves \"I have an ego. I am what I am,\" \"I'm called Jack or Jill, whatever I am.\" Because you are not Jack or Jill anymore; there are five types of Jack. Within that they have also millions of Jacks built around it. So which one you really call yourself? At this point it is uncertain. There's no such thing as \"ego\" or \"me\" or \"I\". And from that point of view the notion of egolessness plays important part. And nonexistence of ourselves, purely only from the point of view of the fragments that we are made out of. These fragments that we are made out of are *also* non-substantial. Each fragment consist of one of those little five skandhas as well at same time. It goes on and on and on, and little particle of little particle, until we become nothing. Even nothing can be regarded as a particle from that point of view. But still those are consist also of five skandhas. [Laughter] So there is a heap of nothingness which built up like a bubble. And that is seems [laughing] to be basic approach to Buddhist psychology of ego and existence, which is fundamentally nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could discuss about that if you like to ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1544.0,1654.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When Western psychology refers to \"ego\", do you think they're referring to the same thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Generally, the Western psychology of ego is largely based on idea of, as Jung says it: To develop ego first, so then you can examine them, you destroy a part of it. And it is largely based on to rediscover your masculine and feminine entity. And it is regarded as loss of personality in the Western psychology basically; that when you are completely confused, and when you are in state of confusion, when you are freaked out, that it is a sign of that you don't have *enough* ego, therefore you can't hold onto yourself. So the Western approach is basically to develop confusion or anger or passion properly -- become a self-respectable person. You can fight in society, you can assert your authority to others. And that seem to be the basic point. I mean that's putting very vaguely.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut there is of course higher kind of thinking in the Western psychology -- of course -- which is the-- in fact it cease to referred as \"ego\", and it begin to referred as \"soul\", which is a state of mystical experience could be perceptive to that particular state of being. That any blessings, any grace, spiritual pleasures, could be perceived into that particular entity which is a soul. It seem to be there is differences. But in the Buddhist approach that soul and ego, all of them, are lumped together. Because that's why they are called, you know, \"heaps\". That there's no ground to receive anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1654.0,1805.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [UNCLEAR: Now that we know we  have?] the five skandhas--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Where are we?] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I think we have some sort of realization, maybe it's conceptual realization, that that the five skandhas are just, you know, bullshit, you know. I mean, you think you have some ground, but it's not really there. What do we do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What do we do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do we do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: See what's next talk in next week of... [Laughter] You have to come back next time. [Laughter] We going to talk about karma and rebirth. That might have something to do with it. One bite at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1805.0,1869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Buddha was able to get rid of all these skandhas, and he denied the existence of an ego. How was it that he could remember his past lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very good question. [Laughter] That doesn't mean to say that he completely went berserk. And he remembered that the skandhas doesn't exist, which give some kind of continuity that nonexistence is also continuity in that sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's like a thread?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thread, yeah. That he begin to realize that what's called the \"erroneous beliefs\" led him to all kinds of troubles in his past life. And because they erroneous, that because they are fictitious, because they are myth of freedom, and that myth relived and relived, relived and relived, finally almost become real. And that myth that he had went through, in his past life, is also memory of myths. So there's a thread of intelligence still functioning. We have to discuss about that later -- that what *is* the existence in the Buddhist approach? If everything is nonexistent what is continuing thing? We have to discuss that later. Which is very important point actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut there *is* something. In other word, the popular notion of Buddhism is that either Buddhism doesn't talk about inexistence, and notion of nirvana is just becoming nothing. But that's not quite true. But there is something is taking place, and we have to examine that, as we go along on this course. But this is very important point to realize that to begin with there is nothing exist -- to *begin* with. Which is very important point to look into it. And there is some kind of a realization of nonexistence is also some kind of existence. To realize that -- is intelligence operating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=1869.0,2056.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How is ignorance at the same time intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well maybe that's the basic to what we are talking about, is ignorance begin to catch wind so to speak. That it is flawless, in trying to retain its own ignorance. So therefore the wisdom, the ignorance, are two sides of the coin. But basically it is possible, it has been said. [Laughs] It is dichotomy of course, but if you don't have the other extreme you can't have the other extreme either. So in other word, ignorance is a seed of enlightenment. Therefore we have hope. Otherwise if we are completely fucked up, there's no way to beginning anything at all. [Laughs] We can't even discuss about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2056.0,2133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't understand the logic behind denying existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Explain it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't see why you say that there's no such thing as existence. That's what I understand, [laughs] that's what I think he said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Laughter] Well you see, you don't exist. You have no basis of existence because you don't have ground to exist. Because you are made out of these five heaps.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I don't see how you can deny feelings and deny consciousness and deny concepts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't deny them on their face value, but you *can* deny them because they don't have origin; their origin came from something else. And the concept came from somewhere else, which is impulse, impulse came from something else, which is feeling, feeling came from something else which is ignorance. So you could keep on tracing back, and so the background is complete misunderstanding. That whole thing is made out of misunderstanding. It's like tracing back in the president, government system. Say that if there's something is taking place in the government system, that the White House should function properly, and the president should function properly. And there is a question of impeachment. And does government actually function or not if there's a question of impeachment president himself. Is that big show or big joke? What is that? [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2133.0,2272.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are the five skandhas [unknown gesture or incident;  laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] a kind of self-image, that although it's still a self-image it replaces the initial common sense self-image of myself as a whole? And it's sort of like a subtler refinement of that so that the Buddha's teachings give you sort of better and better self images, subtler and subtler, until there isn't a self-image?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say that. But still, even that could be deceptive, that in a fundamentally you could develop very subtle self-image which is still deceptive, until you begin to realize that enlightenment doesn't exist.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you mean the pictures of ego -- Buddhist picture of ego -- is not in order to give us a more... In other words the way out of the mess doesn't have anything to do with a more and more gradual taking first steps, still within a belief framework--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does. It does. Until you realize that even the notion of enlightenment is nonexistence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, but before we realized that, do we begin--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --in other words with the self-image of ourselves in terms of five skandhas.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, why not? Definitely so, yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2272.0,2363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The Buddha said that existence involves the element of suffering. Does suffering exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Suffering exist only as misunderstanding of your existence. When you begin to realize you exist, the suffering exist. That's why suffering is regard as a truth, rather than suffering is regard as an eternal truth. As long as you-- your misunderstanding in believing yourself is eternal, the suffering becomes eternal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is that because you're involved in karma, karmic reaction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why. Because you involved with proving yourself of your own existence -- yeah, which is a karmic thing. Which we are going to discuss next week or the week after that, whatever -- 21st of February, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2363.0,2433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: The notion of enlightenment \"isn't,\" and then again is it like the notion of enlightenment or anything else \"is\" and \"isn't\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2433.0,2455.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: There seems an attitude in Buddhism to... There's the experiential -- a way to approach experientially -- and a way to approach it on a complete theoretical level. What approach are you dealing with?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Theoretical -- at the same time experiential. I mean those are inseparable. When you present some case, which is theoretical, you have to understand the theory, and having understood the theory already, then you have some glimpse of experience already at the same time. When somebody says you like, the doctor tells \"you are going to die, you have cancer.\" Which is a theoretical thing, because doctor doesn't know about death or cancer particularly, personally. But it is experience that the person-- the patient -- would say, \"I'm going to have cancer, I have cancer, I'm going to die.\" It is very personal thing. So the question is how personal we view that whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2455.0,2546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would you say that the development of the five skandhas, from the first to the fifth, is something that sort of occurs at each moment rather than sort of once and for all at the beginning of your life? And...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good question actually. The five skandha process takes place constantly all the time. Yes, very much so. Otherwise we can't function our neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2546.0,2578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I don't understand though, if I were to think of myself as five skandhas, why would I wake up in the morning and remember, \"Oh I'm so and so, and I've got to be so and so at such a time.\" I mean it would be just waking up and not having any idea, any orientation, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well because of that you do. The five skandha process becomes very well-organized system. That when your arms move, your brains function. When you're fast asleep, if somebody pulled your leg, your brain automatically gets message, and you function that way. So it's -- we have been rehearsing for a long time, and we become so professionally for whole time, that we do it, one just does it. It is got as fast as that. And that's why that we become a professional samsaric person. We've got a good thing going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2578.0,2681.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: If everything can be broken, then what's in control?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Like before you said you begin trace back [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But how, if nothing is in control, what begins to trace back?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The bureaucracy. That's all. Nothing but everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2681.0,2734.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When you speak of the third skandha as perception and impulse, and you say that there are three types of impulse, being hatred, desire and stupidity. You mentioned love, and I was wondering if the Christian concept of love is a form of desire, in terms of desire for salvation? Is that within the second skandha -- or third, I guess? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Third skandha. Well, I think the whole point is that that's why the idea of spiritual materialism is important to realize that. That it depends on whether you are-- have a desire to boycott ego. Which is another kind of love. Which might be said as suicidal. Which is also another kind of appreciation of art, at the same time. And also you have another kind of sense of love: for salvation to survive yourself, to maintain the myth of freedom, at the same time. I mean that's seem to be individual case particularly. But the common, popular notion of desire for salvation could be said as that particular category, definitely. It depends on how much you are spiritually materialistic. That's good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2734.0,2835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What is spiritual materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Spiritual materialism [laughs] is: to search spiritual means and methods and techniques and wisdoms and insights to save one's ego so you could still become egomaniac.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Do you mean by that to manipulate the environment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2835.0,2873.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: What is the purpose of the ego, if it's really just [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're asking me? [Laughter] Well let's find out. This is seems to be the point of our study here together, in what *is* purpose of ego, precisely? And let us look into it. And I'm just giving hints of all kinds. And let us find out. And I'm sure you could write a good paper on that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2873.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: When does ego leave or when does-- in what level would ego be transcended, or [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which level ego be transcended?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Or just completely leave on its own.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Completely leave -- what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: By itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By itself? You mean still ego will exist, by itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Mmhmm. Ego does not exist as far as any self-centered thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, whenever you want. And that's a question of if you have another project or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You have another project? You mean like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you have another project, there will be still ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Oh. So when ego leaves you have no projects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is the biggest project of all. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: [Laughing] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2924.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Can we live without egos?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Can we live without egos?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Can we live without ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well live, *alive*, is a question. Depends on what you mean by that. Can you elucidate us what you mean by \"live\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well if ego is taken as a central force that moves us, could we all live without it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In fact the -- from this point of view, ego has been the nuisance to live. And one *can* live without ego much better -- much, much better. Because there are no nuisance involved. Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3000.0,3108.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Do you think that Western people are very egocentric?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not particularly opposed to Easterners; absolutely not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: You know personally for myself, I find them very [UNCLEAR: simple? symbol?] addicted, and very addicted to their egos.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well a lot of Easterners as well, definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: What do you attribute that to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I attribute that to ego [laughter] -- itself. You see -- please, I would like to make sure that you don't misunderstand that the Westerners are more ego-centered than Easterners, and that's not the case, absolutely not at all. That everybody has their neurosis confusion at the same time. And Westerners have their wisdom, and developed, and Easterners have their wisdom developed at the same time. So I don't see any problems or any racial problems. And that doesn't mean to say that if you have slitty eyes you have less ego. [Laughs; laughter] Absolutely not. It's the same thing. [Laughs] Everybody has enormous ego, whether you are on the East or on the West. In fact, for the very reason why Buddha taught in India, in the East, which might have attributed to say that Indians have greatest ego -- therefore he had to teach teachings of ego, much more so than the Westerners, from that point of view. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3108.0,3225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Do you think that Westerners have more ego strength than Indians?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so. Yeah I think so, that Westerners are more courageous and more industrious than Indians. [Laughter] The Second and First World War started in the West, not in the East, so East -- Westerners -- must have a lot of courage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3225.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is the ego a result of the play of dualistic forces, like positive and negative and yin and yang?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: When the two are balanced, the ego leaves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The ego never leaves. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: The ego never leaves. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: The ego never leaves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego might transform, transmute, but never leaves.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Does that mean the process of the dualistic forces changes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They don't change, but they transform. It's like ego is the raw material, which could be refined, made into something else. But you-- if you reject the raw material you don't have anything to work on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3270.0,3328.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Is it conceitful to imagine one--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your voice please?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Yeah. Is it conceitful to imagine one situation in which man wouldn't develop his ego, or is it a product regardless of the environment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't quite follow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, we're talking about Easterners and Westerners, and I was wondering if you could-- if there could be a situation, you know, a social situation, which man would *not* develop this super strong ego? Or is it a natural tendency, a natural human tendency, regardless of the environment, although perhaps affected by the environment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think in any case there is ego struggle. Whether you're involved with the raw material or whether you're involved with the product of raw material, there's always ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, it seems that the ego is a result of the social situation that man has created, you know, you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --you create the ego to get this and get that, and survive in the society. But if the society is also a product of man then I-- it seems like the raw material could be egoless if the social situation were changed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, but you see, you can't get away with that. By saying that when you are egoless raw material, then that in *itself* become chauvinism, in itself. So you could create further ego. There is no way of getting away with it. There's always *something* that ego could take pride in its own, all the time. There's always room for chauvinism of all kinds.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well if you take a person and you take him totally out of society, you know, you may throw him in a cave or something at birth, what sort of tendencies does his ego going to follow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always. Always. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Pride and anger and lust and all that [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always. Yeah, always. I mean we can't we know divide this earth by seeing-- by saying that \"this particular part of world is more immune to enlightenment, and this particular part of the country is less immune to enlightenment.\" You can't say that. It's all the same. [Laughs] I mean the work of art and work of culture and the work of dignity may be so, but still nevertheless, ego still functions in its own way, it finds its own occupants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3328.0,3506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Is there a Buddhist view of evolution, the way it's understood by Western scientists? The man evolving from the ape, which evolved from something previous and that type of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well Buddhist evolutionary scientific thing is based on traditionally from the Indian tradition, Brahmanistic tradition or Indian tradition, generally. And fundamentally the true Buddhist approach is a psychological one of that evolution of psychology, psychological evolvement. And a Buddhist never teaches the final golden age or the previous golden age, as such particularly. But working with the chaos, is maybe be said to be golden age. Which is happening right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3506.0,3591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Has man had ego since he emerged as a species? I mean is it just -- has it been with us that long? Has it always been part of our species?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Every minute -- every moment -- there's ego functioning. And it is not regarded as man is-- when man become creature by the Creator at all. It just all the time it's happens. 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[Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3689.0,3749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: In order to transform the ego, you have to understand the components of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to understand...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: The components of the ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Well, how can you recognize when you're being deceived by ego if you're just-- if you're in a state of deception?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you realized you be deceived then you getting out of a little bit because you be-- you know that you be deceived. You are begin to get out of the circle a little bit. Do you see what I mean? Otherwise you want to know that it is state of deception. But once you begin to realize there is a state of deception, and when you begin to look into it, then you begin to look otherwise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3749.0,3801.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: You say that ego never leaves, but what becomes of it when one accepts nonexistence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Non-ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Then it doesn't-- there is no ego there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no ego, but there is the energies of ego at the same time, which makes you compassionate or kind or open, energetic, and everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: But there's no orientation towards self--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: --this is all output.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3801.0,3835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85051/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we should close our meeting, this point, tonight, and adjourn ourselves -- whatever. And, get to the discussion groups?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have announced that already?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=3835.0,3857.08408"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740206VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=0.52,4.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Colorado classes,\n1974, held in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=4.08,8.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is class number three,\nThe Psychology of Ego,\nheld February 6th, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=8.8,15.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made May, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=15.72,21.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight we are\ngoing to discuss\nthe psychology of 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\"ego\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=48.56,57.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the context of Buddhism,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=61.41,65.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the ego is referred\nas basic state of 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\"alayavijnana\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=94.38,102.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is \"storehouse\nof consciousness\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=102.49,110.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case \"consciousness\"\nis referred as state of mind\nwhich is utterly 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Nothing.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2690.25,2691.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: Like before you said\nyou begin trace back\n[INAUDIBLE] .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2691.62,2694.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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is:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2838.08,2842.236"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to search spiritual\nmeans and methods and techniques","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2844.115,2848.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and wisdoms and insights\nto save one's ego","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2848.77,2854.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so you could still\nbecome egomaniac.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2854.11,2859.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: Do you mean by that\nto manipulate the 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?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2873.94,2883.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're asking me?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572#t=2883.13,2886.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161723/file/293572/transcript/85052/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well let's find out.\nThis is seems to be the point\nof our study here 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