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Open space as the background for the five buddha family principles.  Essential to all levels of experience are the \"three kayas\" -- dharmakaya or open space; sambhogakaya is space becoming aware of itself, the energies that activate push and pull between awareness and confusion. How because of confusion, the nirmanakaya arises, which is the living teacher.  Story of Shakyamuni Buddha as example of nirmanakaya.  Describes how hearing the teachings connects us with our existing primordial intelligence. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains how attachment to confusion is way of avoiding sanity, and how we alternate back and forth."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 31 2020 to Feb 15 2022\nTranscribing: Julia McKaig\nChecking: Leandra Ziegler\nFinal Proof: Ella Milligan\nOther Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Introduces teachings on the five buddha families as presenting a \"psychological portrait of individuals.\"  One's basic state of mind as being open space, energy arising within that space expresses who we are as individuals. Open space as the background for the five buddha family principles.  Essential to all levels of experience are the \"three kayas\" -- dharmakaya or open space; sambhogakaya is space becoming aware of itself, the energies that activate push and pull between awareness and confusion. How because of confusion, the nirmanakaya arises, which is the living teacher.  Story of Shakyamuni Buddha as example of nirmanakaya.  Describes how hearing the teachings connects us with our existing primordial intelligence. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains how attachment to confusion is way of avoiding sanity, and how we alternate back and forth."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/747/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754058807","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754058738_19711105vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":3270.79963,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/747/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754058807","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/747/original/1754058738_19711105vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1754058740","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3270.79963,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711105VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711105VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boston - Mandala of the Five Buddha Families - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Mandala of the Five Buddha Families, given in Boston, Massachusetts. This is talk one, The Four Kayas, recorded on November 5th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made June 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the Mandala of the Five Buddha Families and Their Application held at East-West Center in Boston, November 1971. This will be the first talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=0.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughter] Welcome everybody to the seminar. That we are going to work on understanding of basic structures of color and textures of world, which has been described as the basic-- what was it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Five buddha mandala. Mandala of the five buddha families. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The mandala of five buddhas. [laughter] And its implications! [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nIn many cases that I'm sure that a lot of the audience here are purely wanted to relate with their own personal involvement with the spirituality and their own commitment to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAm I loud enough over there?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you hear me?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did he say? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. [laughter; chatter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=42.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it seems that [laughs; laughter] the basic teachings of Buddhism that been presented to the world is purely relating with the psychological portrait of individuals. And people often ask that, \"Why am I here in this world? Why should I exist myself as I am?\" And that is precisely point that we are going to deal with that particular confusion. And that confusion is approaching from -- strange enough, this case -- not from downward-up but upward-down, in terms of dealing with the different state of awakened state of mind as well, at the same time. That fundamentally speaking, that psychological state of mind of mankind, or animal, whatever is may be, contains complete open space, absolutely open -- otherwise they can't exist unless there's open space to perform themselves. We are relating with the open space fundamentally and subconsciously, whatever you like to call it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=155.0,265.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's open space constantly, complete open space. And that open space contains, at the same time, openness and its precision. And that open space also contains tremendous sparks of light, of matter. Otherwise the space cannot be space unless there is matter to express as space. It's like if you're going to paint picture of sky, only way that we can paint picture of sky is have blank paper and paint two little birds in it. So automatically that represents that not *one* birds flying in that space, but somebody *else* flying in the bird at the same time. Two birds flying-- two birds in a blank paper contains expression of space. And that kind of situation is matter is most important to express anti-matter or space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=265.0,346.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you might see this particularly basic idea of this, what we're trying to express, is mankind or sentient beings are not condemned to being sinner or bad person, naughty person, bad person at all! That they have their energy and they have their space. Because of their energy they express in differently, and because they have their space they have ventured in different situations. So that process of venturing out is-- expresses space. That process of energy that are contained within that space is the dynamic process of meaning of being -- whole being as what we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=346.0,408.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by talking about the five buddha principle that we are going to talk in the seminar, is that need certain background to relate to it. That to begin with there is-- that space contains absolute, perfect, fullness, completeness. So full that that space cannot be interpreted or described -- what's called \"Samantabhadra\" in the Sanskrit terms. Which literally means, \"Samantabhadra\" means \"all good\", \"all full\", \"all complete\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=408.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then next process that we get that situation, after that fullness of that space, is that notion of an indestructible quality; space is full and complete yet at the same time the idea of destruction doesn't apply anymore at all. And that's-- the next stage is \"Vajradhara\" or \"Dorje Chang\" principle applies. Indestructible quality. The open space, absolutely indestructible, invincible open space. Because question of \"me\" and \"mine\" or duality of any kind, it doesn't apply anymore at all in that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=459.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have next process. That indestructible process *also* contains feelings -- joy, bliss, pleasure. Yet at the same time this process of joy is purely related with the basic joy which does not have to be maintained or related with a dualistic process of any kind. And from that, that gradually the progress of basic state of being develops in terms of all-pervading space. But in its absolute quality that question of absolute applies at that point. From that-- up to that point that absolute quality doesn't apply anymore at all. Whole thing is without question absolute. But beyond that there is question of absolute or imperfection or relative situations. And that particular state is be known as \"svabhavikakaya\" in Sanskrit which means \"the body of being within nature of in its own being\". Absence of duality still, but the notion of absence still apply that particular situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=519.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's concept of \"dharmakaya\" which applies next situation. \"Dharma\" means, this case, \"truth\", ultimate truth, what is or what isn't. Is the-- whole thing is based on \"what\" as a statement, rather than question of \"what\". \"What\" is expression of open space, like word \"OM\", which is known in Hinduism. That OM creates the idea of space and creation. From this point even that word \"OM\" could be translated into \"what\". \"What\" in terms-- \"what\" in the sense of not question, but pure statement. So \"OM\" equals \"what\". Pure \"what\" allows lot of space, lot of things to happen, creates embryonic womb around that whole situation. Dharmakaya -- the law or the concept or the doctrine, the teaching. But what is \"teaching\", what is \"doctrine\", what is \"law\"? That \"what\" as a statement provides open space. And from there gradually process of psychological development begin to happen. Dharmakaya, state of \"what\", state of open space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=629.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that open space gradually process of energy begin to happen. Because of that for the very fact that awareness of the open space does exist *as it is*, and then one tend to develop idea of space at that moment. First concept of space start from that level, because in order to develop space again that you have to develop relativity situation with the space at the same time. What's called \"sambhogakaya\", which is next level, in which that we are going to discuss in the seminar about the different details of sambhogakaya state of being, which is that within that space of non-dualistic and non-complicated situation-- uncomplicated situation of purely being in a no-man's-land, there could be a different development of energies. Colors begin to happen, shapes begin to develop, textures begin to develop, temperature begin to develop, of energies. Unless you have those energies, you don't have the space at all. So it is interdependent from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=749.0,838.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why, purely, it is called that sambhogakaya buddha level of texture, color, symbol, space, and therefore sambhogakaya buddhas are the teachers for the bodhisattva or mahasattvas. Mahasattvas are the students who could perceive the message from the sambhogakaya buddhas. \"Mahasattva bodhisattva\" means that ordinary human being who achieved into a-- through a process of training themselves and begin to get a glimpse of something. And there's something begin to catch them up. And there's flashes of colors, there's flashes of emotions, there's flashes of intellectual feelings and textures. And those particular state of being awake, able to communicate with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=838.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point, particularly, it is the source of confusion and realization. And when we talk about confusion and realization, in this case, it is not confusion as such as a stupid person, at all. It is confusion of bewilderment. So many things and... there's so much traffic is involved: red of passion is flashing; yellowness of pride flashing; and the blueness of anger flashing. All sorts of traffic is begin to take place. And one doesn't quite-- know quite certain what one is, but at the same time there is-- something is happening. That somethingness begin to blind us because it's so bright; not because it's so dark but it because too bright. That brightness begin to bring us color-blind approach because it's so bright and so brilliant. In that sense, brilliant equals the blindness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=900.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of that situation, what's called bewilderment errors, that we tend to make that mistake -- bewilderment errors. Error that we make, mistake that we make, of dwelling in that bewilderment. \"Can't be bothered. So many colors, so many problems, so many complicated things happens. Why don't we stick ourselves into one situation, play deaf and dumb?\" It's like-- certain analogy is like certain beetles; if you push them around, finally they don't care, they don't try to run away at all, they play death. They play they're dead, dead beetles. Their legs and arms crawled up all together, they play dead. Trying to camouflage themselves into the environmental nature, whatever they may be, that kind of freezing situation that tend to play.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=974.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point, therefore it is important that have the the introduction towards the realizing color and perspective view of textures and temperatures of emotions. Are very important to realize that. And it seemed that the seminar is being based on that particular principle. That whole thing that what we were talking about is non-acceptance of the brilliant quality, luminosity quality of world as it is. We don't want to really relate with it at all -- it's too irritating. We want to subdue ourselves, we want to relate in a very manageable way. That manageable way is very tricky. The criteria of how manageable is in itself is uncertain, how far you should go into that extreme case of manageable situation. And manageable situation in terms of either maintaining ourselves, or else that we could explore ourselves into the nearest neighborhood of that ego, that blind and deaf person. Or else manageable in terms of that we could play ourselves as madness, that we can't take care of ourselves at all, and some external situation will come up and rescue us. All sorts of tricks that we could play on all sorts of levels of manageable, deaf and dumb game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1045.0,1166.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That deaf and dumb game is expression of intelligence, of course, naturally. Unless you're intelligent you can't play such exotic and sophisticated game at all! [Laughter] Therefore ignorance is *so* intelligent, therefore it's so ignorant. [Laughter] When we talk about ignorance is *so* intelligent, and the speed of ignorant begin to bounce back on us therefore we decide to accept that bewilderment of not knowing what we are and just trying to catch the first flash of not knowing what we are. So ignorance is expression of intelligence from that point of view. But we tend to go on and on and on from that level. That we create-- we expand to begin with, we lay out our stuff, expressions, as far as we can reach; we radiate from the ignorance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1166.0,1239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having radiated from that ignorance then we trying to make that radiation into something else and we put out logical assumption to living situations of world, physical living situation to the world. We say \"that is for me,\" \"that is not for me,\" \"I would like to have that,\" \"I don't would like to have that.\" And that's very pleasurable in that particular situation after you-- or that particular big shock of bewilderment -- such a relief to have something to pick and choose. We pick and choose that which is close to us, that which radiates some kind of warmth to us, which is passion. We pick that which is-- that we feel-- could feel vibrations of that situation to confirm our existence because we are too close to the external projections that projections could reflect on us and we could feel the vibrations coming from that situation to us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1239.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's too-- it's-- in other words creating a nest. If you have a nest, if you sit in the middle of nest, surrounded by feathers and straws and cotton balls, what you have-- what have you, we feel close to it, we feel warmth. We feel very personal commitment of communication, very beautiful, cozy. That's the-- seem to be the pattern of magnetizing, passion; relate with what is closest to you. When we begin to relate with that closing and closeness situation, claustrophobic at the same time. But at that moment that we don't know about that, we can't be bothered about that. [laughs; laughter] That's private parts. But since it is close and gentle, comforting, secure, sensual, relate with that. We don't have to actually grasp anymore at all. We just be there, let those environment who is too close to us radiate their warmth to us. But psychologically, fundamentally, unconsciously, we are grasping. Unless we grasp it we can't feel that closeness of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1335.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then next process that develops is something unpleasant. \"If I'm living in this nest, I have all my comfort and everything -- feathers and cotton balls and everything around me which keeps me warmness and snug and happy. I wonder what's outside of *that*? [Laughter] Terrible thought.\" [Laughter] Possibility is that there's ice-blocks all over around you. Eventually that snug situation may not exist anymore at all. [Laughter] \"We have to do something about it. You have to push them out!\" That's the aggression -- irritating thought of something is opposite of warmth, snug, magnetic. \"Push them out, I don't want them.\" And at the same time that we lose idea of distant from that situation to the-- that *me* situation of-- with \"my nest and that horrible thought that occurred to me of existing, such ideas as ice block all around me.\" One is not quite certain how to relate with that. So the only safest way of dealing with that is trying to push as hard as you can, trying to exclude as hard as you can, as further as you can, millions of miles away. Make sure it wouldn’t come back. That's the speed of aggression actually happens. Aggression contains a tremendous repelling and a speedy quality of pushing them out constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1434.0,1550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it is also, again, if you could see that way, is result of bewilderment. You are not quite certain how close your nest is too close to you and how distant your anti-nest is around you. [laughter] So we somehow or other, we work in a very embry-- ambiguous way, bewilderment way. And the whole approach is that it takes place -- in this security of ego is concerned -- is guesswork, purely. We sense something therefore that must be it, therefore we trying to do it more than-- that we sense there is something, to make sure it wouldn't come back anymore. If we feel that whole process is fifty percent close to us, try to make it three-hundred percent, make sure that it wouldn't come back anymore. That kind of guesswork and overemphasize extreme process trying to work with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1550.0,1623.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that particular dynamic enemy-- energy that we involve with that process, that of pushing and accepting process, is beautiful material, foreground, to the what's called \"nirmanakaya buddhas\" to come to being into the-- our living situation. Nirmanakaya buddha is the buddha who is manifested on earth as living teacher. That unless there's that much struggle and hope and fears involved, there cannot be any living teachers. And because there's so much pushing and pulling is involved, interpersonal struggle, therefore there will be nirmanakaya teacher for the mankind; could exist on that particular energy. That you are discriminating or rejecting so much, you're accepting so much, therefore the teachings also look beyond that level of pushing and pulling. Who's pushing, actually? Who is pulling? There's occasional gaps when we try to push as hard as we can, and we have to rest ourselves and sit down and gain our breath. And moment of rest that somebody wonders: why we are doing that whole thing-- whole trip? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1623.0,1723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's where the -- suspiciously -- the teachings of Buddha begin to come in to. Our fundamental intelligence begin to pop up! \"I wonder why we do this altogether?\" But then we ignore that thought and we get up and push again, [laughter] constantly -- or pull. And then we start again, sit down and rest. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1723.0,1769.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Much as we are trying to cover, or hide, that you didn't actually rest at all. We be constantly pushing and pulling. But in our secret knowledge that we know there was a gap, we can't actually ignore that. And those gaps are the suspicious gaps where the primordial intelligence begin to pop up which leads us into talking the same thing in this room. And we are begin to relate with that gap, at this particular case. Maybe somebody could put their energy of trying to grasp the word \"wisdom\" at this particular gathering, or else they wanted to purify themselves, whatever is may be, but there is gap. Nevertheless, that people are able to hear the words, which means they're providing gaps in this situation -- the absence of pushing and pulling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1769.0,1847.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And nirmanakaya buddha has been represented in a different sit-- different tradition of different types of situations as Shakyamuni Buddha -- who was born in India, enlightened in Bodhgaya in Bihar, and communicate to mankind -- is one example. And the other examples are images that be created of depicting his stillness, his silence qualities, his wise, his wisdom, are another image. Another image is that his words, his discoveries, been transmuted into another teacher; handed down to one teacher to another teacher which went down for 2,500 years time, which has been handed down to right up to this very moment. In this case it seem I'm speaking for him, for the Buddha. I'm speaking his truth, and hand it down to that level. Which could also provide the-- hailing the teaching of Buddha could provide bewilderments as well at the same time, starting point that you didn't expect to hear such a thing at all, but you heard such thing unexpectedly. One wonders. Mind boggles, [laughter] whether it's true or not. [Laughter] And teachings of Buddha comes often in the cases of-- in the fashion of a double-take. That you hear the first time the truth, and you just hear it. But then one looks back to it in the double-take fashion, it seeps in to one's whole system and then begin to relate to one's whole being. So that's the definition of \"nirmanakaya\", it seems to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1847.0,1975.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And further situations of different stages of five buddhas that we are going to discuss in our seminar, probably will be tomorrow. We'll discuss that in great detail if we could have time. And discussions will be very helpful as well at the same time. And I think better we stop there at that point, and if you have any discussions, questions, on that point. Any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=1975.0,2017.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said that there were in the beginning flashes of color; and you also said after that flashes of intellectual feelings. What did you mean by that, \"intellectual feelings\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems there is also the sharpness of logical mind begin to function as well. I mean the whole thing doesn't have to be purely animal instinct alone, but you have the intellectual, logical mind functioning as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2017.0,2056.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I have an image in my head that you're walking-- that I'm walking along and I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have image, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That I'm *walking* somewhere and I suddenly see red, and that like everything flashes red for me. Is that what you mean? Something like that? I mean, is it-- or is that too literal?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it sounds a bit too literal, if I may say so. And when we talk about redness of passion, it doesn't have to be color, but it's the abstract concept of redness, concept of passion, which is very subtle. You see that when we talk about these principles of colors, we are not talking in terms of pure, either psychedelic or prime-- what you call -- prime colors of any kind at all. That we are talking about the concept, *undercurrent* of the colors. The red*ness*, the *is*-ness of the red in the fundamental sense, or the is-ness of the blue in the fundamental sense. It's not at all visual, necessarily, but it's-- the cognitive mind could perceive something out of it in terms of being cognitive colors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2056.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would this state of confusion, it'd be like when one first, say, starts to question about oneself and find out about oneself and the different, like, facts come up and discoveries but it's all very fragmented. And somehow you can't get a hold on it. So like sometimes when you sort of get the question, you know, \"Well why should anything exist anyway?\" And you kind of wall yourself off from that discovery. [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. That's very good description, actually. That one tend to give up the game, but one doesn't really give up the game, exactly. When game begin to come to the end, one begin to say \"why should there be such thing at all?\" And one tend to close off the game, possibilities of the game, of hypocrisy of ego. And that process goes on. That's a very good description.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2160.0,2237.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is bewilderment like a copout from the color, from the brightness? Like, if you had so much confusion about the stuff, the experience of bewilderment. And then it's like-- I don't feel that either-- and I don't know which way it goes, either that bewilderment was a copout, or that that bewilderment was the-- like a reaction which led to something that you learned, something [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that bewilderment is seem to be copout, definitely. Not the first flash of bewilderment -- is irresistible, natural instinct which presents bewilderment. But then fraction of the second of the bewilderment is you acknowledge that you be bewildered altogether. And one finds that's best excuse to be, and one begin to take advantage of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And that seem to be the copout. Yeah, it's-- I mean the intelligence is so minute and so precise at that point. That constantly looking for a way of copping out all the time. Any flashes comes out in your mind is regarded as way of copping out. You know, there's constant effort is involved in that sense. It's a constant process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, what’s the point of the flashes getting to the point where it gets to make you bewildered? I mean the point-- what's the point of the colors and everything? The point is to stay just that-- not to encourage them, but to stay with it kind of, rather than to get bewildered? Or to get, like, \"Ah, I can't do it anymore,\" or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean not isolating yourself from the colors anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Not what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Isolate. When there's a color there's tendency to view the color and enjoy the brilliant of the color or the beauty of the color. And as soon as one begin to do that, one is isolated from it, rather than becoming part of the color altogether. And once one's begin to view the color as it is, then next flash is automatically bewilderment which comes up.\r\n\r\n\r\n[to SPEAKER5] Want to say something there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: No, that's brilliant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thanks.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Why is that, that the bewilderment comes? I mean I could see-- you can be-- you can get so pain-- it can get almost painful. The color can get so intense that you're blinded. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you're watching it, rather than becoming part of it. That's is precise moment where the split begin to happen, you see what I mean? The first flashes of color is beautiful, pleasurable. But then, it's *so* beautiful, *so* pleasurable, it's overwhelming. It throws you off. And then one begin to be intimidated by it, then bewilderment begin to happen. Tchoo!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2237.0,2445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But isn't it true that you are part of the same thing anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the whole problem! Yeah, of course. Yeah. That's why there's this love and hate relationship constantly involved with colors and bewilderment goes on all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's like seeing one's own... limbs. From one point that you see your limbs are your limbs, but from another point that you see your limbs are something else. And you have this related or unrelated hallucinatory process goes on all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Why is it like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Why is it like that? I mean, that's like saying that one part of the world is you, and the other part of the world is being separate. I mean it doesn't seem--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you ask yourself, you would say \"why not?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: That's what they all say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know! [Laughter] That's what they all say, all the buddhas will say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2445.0,2522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm still very unclear about what you mean by \"colors\". When you talked before about colors almost having these states, of blue as some kind of pride, or red with these passions. And yet, you know, you say to really experience these things and they're very beautiful. I mean, I'm just-- I just really don't what you mean by \"colors\", really.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the colors are the expressions of energy, purely. Do you see what I mean? When we talk about pride and anger, that automatically, obviously, you have preconception onto them, you think they are regarded as something to do with sin or evil. But when we talk about pride and passion we're not talking about evil sense of any kind at all, it's just the simplicity of pride, the simplicity of passion, as it is. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But how did it get to be described in terms of only a color?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, it doesn't have to be, particularly. It’s-- I mean one can purely leave it up to your own imagination. You can draw certain shapes, temperatures, whatever you'd like to call it. It doesn't have to be colors necessarily at all, it's purely up to you. You know, I mean, whole panoramic outer-space world of spirituality is up to you to relate with it, it's up to your imagination. It doesn't have to purely restrict to colors at all. If you think another dimension of relating with that, that's beautiful, that's okay. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2522.0,2614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is the value of the symbolism? I mean, you speak of having to deal with these things as colors or as sounds or as shapes or as dimensions, but why not deal with them directly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that *is*, as far as we see, it is closest to we get to it. I mean, can you exper-- can you explain beyond that possibility? If you have to describe in some kind of way, that we could only describe either in terms of visual, audible, or feeling, texture of that kind -- there's no other languages involved. It's pure relating with language. You don't necessarily have to have-- have to exclude in that particular symbolism at all. Absolutely not. But seems-- it seems that our exposure is extremely limited to audible and the visual, feeling and texture, so that's our hangup. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's subjective symbolism, then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you like. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2614.0,2695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So, how close is copping out from copping in? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's saying the same thing. That's saying exactly the same thing. It's just purely copping. [Laughter] A natural linguistic distinction. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2695.0,2723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But usually when they say \"copping out\" it means avoiding a problem so that the problem doesn't lead to a solution. And you mentioned that when you get to a state of bewilderment it comes about because of a certain way of approaching it, and when you approach it differently then the state of bewilderment doesn't develop. So she asked about \"copping out\" -- \"copping out\" couldn't mean \"copping in\" then, could it? I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be. Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I don't understand though, then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, copping out is trying to find external way of relating something other than what you experienced. And copping in is way of defining experience into not accepting the situation that happens, it's sort of bottled in, anything. As far as this idea is concerned, out and in doesn't make any important point at all, it's just purely copping. Not being on the spot is the copping. Whether you are not being on the spot and then look out, or whether you are not being on the spot and then you look in, it's the same thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2723.0,2825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What about those feelings, like those things that you mentioned, the emotions like pride and anger and hatred and all that stuff? It always comes across, when you read it, if you pick up and read it in Buddhism, always seems to have some kind of a like evil or wrong cast to it. It says love and anger cannot be the way to enlightenment, or something like that. You know it says-- there's always some kind of prejudice already. I don't know where it comes from. And what I want to ask is, like, are these kinds of emotions just like basic human emotions that everybody has, always will have? And-- or can there-- it almost seems like at some times Buddhists texts, they almost could posit another set of emotions which are, like, good, and that these are hangups, these emotions. Like anger will get you no-- with, like-- I don't know it's like-- you know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] Well, in terms of study of abhidharma, that-- which is a Buddhist-- study of psychology of Buddhism in the Buddhist tradition, which speaks of all this religious and a-religious, the worldly thoughts, are part of samskara. There are fifty-two types of samskara type of thoughts that all relate with becoming process of consciousness. But at the same, of course, that there is selection involved as well, of course. I mean one can't ignore that, at all. And that selection process of choosing particular type of emotions against another type of emotions is purely related with whether one is relating whole emotions as emotions, or whether one is relating emotions as something that you have a personal relationship to it. I mean pride is much closer to ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's closer to ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego, yeah. Whereas humbleness would be distant from ego. It's a matter of distance, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So it's more like-- more danger involved with-- when you come upon it? This feeling it could get you more-- you know, it could get you, like, more involved with a sense of kind of, painful kind of feeling, or it could get-- I see how--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's question of if you be-- if you are generous person, you could also have thought of being generous at the same time -- but that's away from ego, you are giving. Whereas if you have a thought of possessiveness that's towards ego. And it works that way as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=2825.0,3046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said that, if I recall correctly, that along with the-- its initial dazzlement and bewilderment, what goes hand-in-hand with it is intelligence. And explanations and seminars seem to feed intelligence; doesn't just make it more blinding. Doesn't that remove you more directly from the experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The intelligence, you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: The growth of the intelligence through explanation and structure and symbolism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so at all, it's just voice of the intelligence. Whereas if you relate with the intelligence as purely expression of intellectual speculation, intellectual answer, of course naturally does that. Naturally blinds for you automatically. Whereas if you relate with this expressions of intelligence as purely expression of that, then, you're not relating with the concept anymore, you're relating with the personal experiences. And that's one of the-- interestingly enough, that there's long discourses developed in the Buddhist tradition of how to listen to the teaching. That whether you listen to the teaching as something that applies to you, or whether you listen to the teaching as something purely logical and purely intellectual. And speaker could say the exactly same word and same sentence, same ideas, but the audience could hear entirely different. Those audience who relate with the teaching as purely intellectual one become blinded by it, so they begin to hear the same words, and the words again and again. And words doesn't make sense anymore, hearing so many times. And often get tired of long discussions, long lectures, and long discourses. They get tired of it, and possibilities of them falling asleep. And the process of lecture becomes a very tiring process. Whereas those who relate with their learning process as something to do with *them*, personally, intuitively, then people don't fall asleep, because it's something to do with them personally at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3046.0,3204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: When you stop watching a color or-- something like anger, when you stop watching it and go into it, what happens? What-- I mean, do you get really angry? Or, what happens, what do you do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, the whole point is that anger, in the neurotic sense or psychotic sense of anger, is to arouse *you* to be angry. Whereas if you become *part* of the anger, in its fullest color and texture as you are, as it is, then anger has no one to rouse *off*. So anger just become a bundle of energy. Seem to be very simple. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3204.0,3256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82120/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The experience [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The experience [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\n[AUDIO CUTS OUT]  \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3256.0,3270.79963"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711105VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=0.66,4.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled Mandala\nof the Five Buddha Families,\ngiven in Boston, Massachusetts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=4.1,12.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk one,\nThe Four Kayas,\nrecorded on November 5th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=12.74,21.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made June 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=21.39,28.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward]\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar on the Mandala\nof the Five Buddha 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Seem to be very simple.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3247.93,3260.652"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: The experience\n[INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3266.04,3270.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3270.13,3271.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: The experience\n[INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3271.68,3275.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[AUDIO CUTS OUT]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747#t=3275.4,3278.31"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154698/file/283747/transcript/82121/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/082/121/original/19711105VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1754058876","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/082/121/original/19711105VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1754058876"}]}]}]}