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Contrasts with Judeo-Christian tradition, where the student looks up to \"higher being\"; but in vajrayana the relationship is reciprocal, mutual communication. But nonetheless the vajra master gives direct \"commands\" based on their understanding of the student. Vajra master also spokesperson for the lineage, and the dharmadhatu and vajradhatu. Student's role is to surrender to where they are, integrate themselves with the teaching situation. Notes the importance of having a root teacher, in order to receive vajrayana transmission. And ultimately, sense of humor, and composure, as essential to vajrayana path and discipline."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Apr 19 2023 to Feb 09 2024 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Outlines the unique teacher-student relationship in the vajrayana. Contrasts with Judeo-Christian tradition, where the student looks up to \"higher being\"; but in vajrayana the relationship is reciprocal, mutual communication. But nonetheless the vajra master gives direct \"commands\" based on their understanding of the student. Vajra master also spokesperson for the lineage, and the dharmadhatu and vajradhatu. Student's role is to surrender to where they are, integrate themselves with the teaching situation. Notes the importance of having a root teacher, in order to receive vajrayana transmission. And ultimately, sense of humor, and composure, as essential to vajrayana path and discipline."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/273/small/thumbnail_245273_1720578811.jpg?1720564416","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720578622_19760603VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":1515.98933,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/273/small/thumbnail_245273_1720578811.jpg?1720564416","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/273/original/1720578622_19760603VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720578632","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1515.98933,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760603VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19760603VCTR1 - Public Seminar - SoquelCA - Skillful Means and Wisdom - Talk 15]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=0.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I suppose we should go on. [laughing]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=95.0,117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In light of discussions we had yesterday, maybe we could get further in the notion of non-theistic traditions and concept of God, as well as concept of teacher. In the vajrayana, particularly vajrayana, that we could also say the same thing with the hinayana and mahayana disciplines as well. That the teacher or the guru principle at this point [laughs] is not regarded as -- [unknown incident; laughter] -- agent of higher level. In the same principle where the Pope is regarded as a vicar of Christ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=117.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The vajra master at this point means person who can actually give command to a student, and therefore both relationships are very simple. And because of the whole thing, the student has have some kind of understanding of the teacher, and the teacher would have some understanding of the student at the same time. So therefore student-teacher relationship becomes very simple, very direct, extremely direct. Where the notion of somebody’s speaking on behalf of somebody else particularly doesn't apply at this point. But nevertheless, at the same time, the teacher is a spokesman, or the traffic controller, in the levels of vajradhatu as well as the dharmadhatu at the same time, simultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=198.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Students' role is to allow themselves, which is what known as surrendering, properly, and teacher's role in the vajrayana's point of view, is give vajra command to the student. It depends on what particular situation where the student's going through, which is very personal and ordinary, very basic in some sense. That students doesn't have to particularly to regard the vajrayana world as a fascistic world particularly. But nevertheless students' reference point becomes very clear, and precise, and very ordinary in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=311.0,372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the hinayana level, students relate to their teacher as elder, a wise man. In the mahayana level, students regard their teacher as a spiritual friend. In the vajrayana level, student regard their teacher as a dictator of some kind. That's why he's known as a vajra master, in the some sense. Which actually able to help the student from confusing factors where which one is your own experience, which one is experience that given to you by the techniques. If we are able to work all of them together properly, nothing is yours, nothing is techniques particularly, but technique *and* discipline and yourself become all one, basically. So the technique is not particularly technique. It's a way of integrating yourself to the teaching situation, both you as student and vajra master as teacher, at the same time. Very general and narrow process this point, very general, and somewhat very narrow situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=372.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It has been said that you have to have a root teacher, root guru. Without that you can't receive a direct transmission of vajrayana properly. And that is true. That is true. That a student of vajrayana should have personal responsibility to one particular person, to commit themselves particularly, fully. Otherwise there's no communication of sense of humor. No communication of sense of power, and no communication of sense of adhishthana, the blessing, couldn't happen. It is same analogy as that we might use in this point, having one husband or one wife. Where you can actually conceive a child properly. And if you have lots of them, and you begin lose track of your kids. And you have kids in every port [laughter]. And you have no family life either. So basically it is a family-oriented situation and personal interjecting each other. Teacher-student relationship becomes very personal, very definitely personal. Absolutely personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=478.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And disobedience with the teacher; it's been said that you sent yourself into vajra hell, vajra \"naraka.\" Which is nothing particularly connected with that of the Christian tradition of the Catholic discipline necessarily. But vajra hell this point is, instead of searching for immense space and freedom in the vajrayana level, that you end up yourself in a completely claustrophobic situation, where the freedom, or sense of improvisation of your understanding is not able to practice properly. So you are put yourself into terrible space. We run out of our ink. [Laughs] However... [laughs] This whole thing is very humorous! [laughter] And actually quite delightful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=569.0,673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vajra hell [laughter] is related with utter, complete, and further answers that come to you; because you never allowed any space for yourselves. Therefore you get what you want, in some sense. You think you're going be tough and good kid, and intelligent person [laughs], which would never allow anybody hamper your territory at all. And because of you believe that for so long, and particularly meeting with the vajrayana discipline, and you hit back, that you find yourself without any space, hospitality, constantly insult of all kinds begin take place. And you end up there for ages and ages *and* ages in your life. Further lives to come as well, at the same time. You go down the area of the sewage system exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=673.0,755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic notion of devotion is somewhat based on a sense of fear, and also somewhat based on intimate love affair at the same time. Intimate sense of continuity and openness at the same time. And a sense of openness and intimate love affair in the vajrayana discipline is very simple, extremely simple, because it is wholly, completely based on one's sense of humor. And also one's sense of composure and vajrayana-like sophistication. Without that, nothing happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=755.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that includes treating your body properly, and treating your clothing properly, treating your environment properly, in the fullest way. So nothing is regarded as just simple job that we actually, actually have to create patchworks in our lives anymore. Trying to just cure one problem you just put another patch. But whole thing's done properly, at visionary level.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we have a discussion period this point, thank you. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=806.0,886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: At that point is there an alternative to vajra hell? You seem to say it's a long stay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. There's no. The traditional analogy is like snake put in the bamboo pipe; either it goes down or up. That's it. No other alternatives that conveniently we used to get in the early days, in the hinayana and mahayana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=886.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In vajra hell is it that there is the possibility for relating with the space and you refuse to do it or that you just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Relating with what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --that it is possible to relate to the space and that you refuse to do it, or that you just don't even see that there's any possibility of space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of space?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One sentence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sentence?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Sentence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Says?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [laughs] Let me try again. In vajra hell, is it that you can see the space and refuse to relate to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Or is it that you do not *see* any space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vajra hell is the ultimate level where there's no space at all. Everything's completely filled, in a concrete level. That as if you are sucked yourself in a sandpit -- what you call them?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Quicksand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quicksand. That every pore of your skin is filled. But at the same time, not convenient as that. At that point you could get passed out right away. But this case is continuously living there, breathing in sand, and still breathing out your breath. And you're stuck there, and complete claustrophobia. That could happen in ordinary life situation, as well as after death situation of course. But that's a general situation, where that vajrayana discipline had developed and it has develop its own way of reconciling the situation, which you can't blame on anybody. It's natural course. You cannot blame quicksand.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The-- is it that one feels that the time in vajra hell is permanent, or is it actually that in length of time? Is it a psychological--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as you're concerned it's eternal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It's-- yeah. Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=939.0,1086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [laughter] You said, \"Answers come to you because you have no personal space.\" How is this so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How is what? The self?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You said that in vajra hell, answers come to you. You said the answers that come to you come because you have no personal space--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they're not regarded as particular answers. They're regarded as further questions, which is very claustrophobic. In the ordinary situation if your mind is opened completely, you'll have a lot of questions but answers come to you as well. But there's some kind of space. And the question becomes answer, in some space. But this point there's no room that you left for yourself properly; therefore, answers have no room. And no questions either particularly, that everything's answer after answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=1086.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I have another question. [Laughter] You said that this is like a family situation, a kinship situation. And it seems that that would be in some way a very comfortable situation, and a possibly open situation. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one is family?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The kinship situation, the family situation of the vajra master and the student?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I associate family and kinship to be very relaxed and open...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You think so? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like you haven't been in the family business enough. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Okay. All right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And usually it's very, very claustrophobic. All kinds of expectations goes around you. And your in-laws, your inner in-law of in-laws, your great-great-grandfather's expectation of you as great-great-grandchildren, and *all* the rest of the whole thing that goes on. It's not very comfortable. But in this case it seem to be the vajrayana's approach is open family situation, where that the pride can be expected, and expectations can be regarded as a path. So ideal family situation, and that seem to be the general approach here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=1162.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I was wondering how anger relates to vajra anger and how that relates to sense of humor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anger *is* humor.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It is the humor?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Otherwise you can't get angry from a vajrayanist point of view. When you get angry that's very humorous, but very powerful at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And is that also vajra anger at that point then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vajra anger, yeah. Very humorous. That therefore the-- one of the interesting trick there, subtle point, is that ordinary anger is beyond, and ordinary anger can't challenge vajra anger, because ordinary anger has no humor. It looks like so stupid, and blunt. And when you have vajra anger with the humor, that it overlaps the whole thing. And you have both humor and the flexibility, and sense of delightfulness, as well as sense of powerful anger occurring at the same time. So that seem to be the basic point. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=1263.0,1341.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, maybe we have to stop-- do you want to ask a question? [laughs; laughter] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: What is the style of a vajra command? Does it sounds like a command, or could it sound just like a hint or a suggestion or a joke? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that everything actually, that it's not so much of the style itself, but how it had occurred in the situation. And when the situation is serious, or directed, or humorous that connects with some sense of taking care of the whole thing, and there's no sense of mismanagement or frivolities involved. So it's not so much of the style itself, but how it's actually happened in seconds, it's a fraction of a second. How the command is inspired on the spot. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=1341.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68480/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, hopefully that today's discussion is went quite well. And I'm glad that you paid heed in what we discussed last night about that. And although I should let you know quite clearly, I have no spies around. I just pick up vibes of what's happening around here. And another point is that maybe as we-- time goes on, while we have, which is very precious, and I won't be back with you for a *long* time. And I hope you take advantage of that understanding, us working together. And because of that more sitting practice and putting more exertion into the sitting practice is very worthwhile. And thank you very much. Goodnight!\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273#t=1407.0,1515.98933"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68481","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760603VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130948/file/245273/transcript/68481/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\n[laughs; 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