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Explores many descriptions of mind, urging students to examine the seed question \"who are we?\" -- not in the sense of our name or where we are from, but the powerful feeling we all have that \"I am,\" that \"I exist,” that there is a “thingness” inside of each of us that seems “real.” Defines mind as “that which experiences a sense of separateness,” explaining that mind is always on the lookout for reference points to reinforce its own existence. By allowing us to look very precisely at the way the mind functions, meditation provides the basic logic needed to realize that this setup of who and what we think we are doesn’t hold truth. Q\u0026amp;A highlight: Q8, first thought.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Mindfulness in Action","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MINDFULNESS IN ACTION: Chapter 10: Appreciation\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/mindfulness-in-action-3551.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book MINDFULNESS IN ACTION)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 13 2021 to Feb 05 2022 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Leandra Ziegler Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eIntroductory talk on how to understand and work with the mind. Explores many descriptions of mind, urging students to examine the seed question \"who are we?\" -- not in the sense of our name or where we are from, but the powerful feeling we all have that \"I am,\" that \"I exist,\u0026rdquo; that there is a \u0026ldquo;thingness\u0026rdquo; inside of each of us that seems \u0026ldquo;real.\u0026rdquo; Defines mind as \u0026ldquo;that which experiences a sense of separateness,\u0026rdquo; explaining that mind is always on the lookout for reference points to reinforce its own existence. By allowing us to look very precisely at the way the mind functions, meditation provides the basic logic needed to realize that this setup of who and what we think we are doesn\u0026rsquo;t hold truth. Q\u0026amp;A highlight: Q8, first thought.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Training the Mind [retitled \"Foundations of  Mindfulness\"] held at Rocky Mountain Dharma Center. This is talk number one, August 18th, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Training the Mind [retitled \"Foundations of  Mindfulness\"], a seminar presented at Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in the summer of 1974. This is the first talk given on August 18th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=0.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --taking precautions about fire and first aid. I think we could be quite safely to talk about why we here. [Laughs; laughter]\n\r\nAs I remember correctly, theme of this seminar is training the mind. Is that the case? [Laughter] Yes?\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=34.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. Good. [Laughter] In that case, we should try to find out what we're going to do, what we're going to study. There-- it seems that situations that we have here and collection of such people like yourselves, as far as I look at, as cream of the milk. That people who had managed to stand beyond the energies of Naropa, still you survived, [laughter] that they wanted to come out here. And those people who are interested very thoroughly and completely, and wanted to come out and make journey out here to study. So, this gathering is rather smaller in scale as usual seminars takes place, but still I feel this is very potent group. And therefore during this seminar I would like to work with you in terms of try to understand the basic meanings of training the mind. It is very important for us, not only because it'll just purely will do good for you, but it is important for us, all of us, myself and you, that we are sharing something together. That's the basic important point, rather than me purely talking to you and you are taking your notes down in your notebook, whatever. Maybe you can write down that if you like. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=78.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The important point here, what we are talking is the-- we are wanted to talk about mind. And actually trying to find out what is meditation, and who's meditating, what happens when you begin to meditate. I don't think we have to go through the too much details of the advertisement level in which that how it is great if you meditate. But we could get into nitty-gritty of the basics, this point, by looking into what do we mean by \"mind.\" And since this approach is training the mind, so we have to understand what do we mean by mind. And there is linguistic, there is experiential, and there is also phenomenological jargon that exist. Whenever anybody mentions about mind or the consciousness or whatever, that so many definition been made completely or half-heartedly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=202.0,293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that we have somewhat problem here. That we have to understand what we are doing, and we have to be quite clear who are we, in fact, this point. That's the seem to be basic point. We could start on that as a seed question: who are we? \"Well, I am so-and-so by name. I was born and brought up in Texas, Arizona, New England, Alaska.\" But that isn't quite the point, who you are or what you are. That's kind of passport language that you present your-- fill in your forms in order to get out of country -- you write certain definitions of who you are, what you are. Or if you try to obtain a visa from another country, you do that. But we are not concerned with that-- this particularly -- we are planning just to settle down this country and experience the raw and ruggedness of America and practice meditation. So our particular aim is not so much to galavant around the world, but it's more of settling down, this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=293.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So let us look at again once more -- who are we, what are we? Well, quite possibly you will say that, \"This thing happens in me, which feels I am myself. And I feel myself very powerfully, very strongly, because there is no other choice. That I feel I am what I am. And beyond even my name, that I feel my thing-ness inside me, that I feel 'me'. \" Obviously, those statement that you might present is connected with emotionalism of some kind. That you feel lonely, therefore you want to say, \"I am what I am.\" Or you feel extremely angry, so therefore you have to assert yourself being \"me.\" \"I'm angry and I have rights to fight or say my stuff -- my things, my line -- to my object of anger. And if I feel lustful, that my lover, my object of passion also had to be acknowledged. I feel this way, therefore that particular person had to surrender to me, and we had to work things together. But main point is that I am what I am; that I have to actually acknowledge myself before we do anything. I somehow have a strong message of some kind or other that I'm going to tell you.\" Quite possibly, then we try to be generous after that flashing thought. And we say, quite possibly, \"Maybe *you* have something to say about *me*, and please come and say.\" And trying to be more ingratiating. But that was afterthought in some sense. But nevertheless, \"Even when you said it to me, of what you think of me and what you think of yourself, I still wanted to have another talk with you. And let us get together again, or let us talk on the spot by saying that this is what's happening, this is a very strong energy situation is happening. That I feel very powerful of this particular situation. And how about some kind of trade, some kind of deal in which that you make-- will make me happy and I'll make you happy. Or, I'll make you wretched, feel wretched, and you make me feel wretched. We have a duel; we'll fight for death,\" whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=395.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, what is \"this\"? Is we talking about \"this\", this particular point, \"this.\" This thing that is highly-strung like wild horse or paranoid dog. That \"this\" that is in us, with us, is very tough and so seductive, sometime extremely good, sometimes extremely wicked. That \"this\" thing that we have -- we are talking about \"this\" thing -- in this case, we are talking about mind, obviously. We are not particularly talking about our body or our situation or whatever, but we are talking about our mind. The definition of \"mind\" from this point of view is \"that which experience the sense of separateness.\" Sense of separateness. That you are going to conduct your business with somebody, either passion or aggression or whatever. That you are dealing with something; you're trying to manage something or other. As long as that attitude of \"this-ness\" is involved, there's obviously \"other-ness\" is involved automatically. It is impossible to exist without \"that\" or without \"this.\" That \"that\" couldn't survive or \"this\" couldn't survive. There is a basic notion that you want to hang on to something or other -- that's called \"mind.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=580.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the Sanskrit word that for is often used is word \"chitta\", c-h-i-t-a [sic] , chitta, which literally means \"heart\" -- direct translation. But if you could look into the implication behind the whole thing, that we are not talking purely terms of a heart alone, but we are talking in terms of that which feels need for something -- reinforce one's existence. Need for something or other -- eagerly looking for enemy, and eagerly looking for lover of different degree, of something or other. That is what it boils down to. That enemy notion is not necessarily enemy as such person that you extremely hated, and that you feel terribly sick of that particular person; or in lover question, that you're particularly absolutely in love with that person, particularly. But there is all kinds of large areas of love and hate. Which is, sometimes they're mixed together in the borderlines, and sometimes there is more emphasis and need for reinforcement of your strength -- as that you are powerful person; that you could strike on somebody, and that person acknowledges you, and begin to give in to you. Or that person could be seduced into your territory, begin to give in to you, and would like to open to you in the realm of passion or whatever, lust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=692.0,834.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of mind. The word \"mind\" seem to be somewhat isolated from what it should meant. That we have a grammatical problem there. If you use the word \"mind\" as a noun, which is isolated term. At the same time it is active, so it should be used as a verb. And only closest verb that can-- we can think of is \"minding\", which is continual thing -- that you're minding. Your mind is minding, constantly -- that looking for reference point, looking for connection of some kind. That fundamentally, we feel that we don't exist. And fundamentally, we feel that we are inadequate or something or other. That there is a basic panic that involved, which is that we don't feel so good to be ourselves, basically. Obviously you say that, \"I'm having a fantastic life. I've been to Naropa Institute. I was off the land, and I had fantastic time. It was great! And I feel like new person.\" Obviously, sure. But still, why do we have to keep thinking about those things again and again, why? If it's there already, if it's real enough, that there's no reason why one has to say those things and reflect again and again about reassurance. And that is precisely the point -- that there is some kind of hole somewhere that we actually know intuitively; we feel that something is fundamentally leaking. [Laughter] But we don't really want to acknowledge as such, particularly. And that has been the problem always, all along. So according to Buddhist way of looking at the whole thing, that actually you don't exist. That such problem is a mark or signs that you are just about realize that you don't exist. You are-- you have no substance anymore. We keep on trying to survive ourselves on those areas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=834.0,983.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But however, in terms of practice of meditation and meditational disciplines that might involved, discussing this, is that important to realize at the beginning that who we are, what we are. That our basic setup that we have doesn't hold truth. And there is lots of areas of weakness takes place constantly -- namely, trying to survive and struggle. We pray to God to help us to strengthen ourselves. \"And please let me exist. And if I don't exist, tell me that I do exist. And I pray to you so that you could tell me that I exist. And grant your blessing -- or whatever, descend your Holy Spirit on me, that I could confirm myself that I do exist. And I'm true believer of blah, blah.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=983.0,1058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the question here is basically what we are discussing here is not particularly of religion, but we are talking purely in terms of some kind of wholesomeness that we can experience within ourselves. Obviously, there is some kind of goal. And still, you might criticize by saying that \"Isn't this duality? Isn't this split?\" Sure, it is split and duality. But still, there is no other language left for us; we have to-- we've got to talk in some kind of primitive language. And that's what we are doing. In fact, practice of meditation is part of that, is try to speak basic, primitive logic and try to think in such way. So that eventually we begin to find ourselves humorous, that what we are doing is constantly nonexistence -- trying to build sandcastle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1058.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that point of view, the word \"mind\" is very important to look into. That panics that involved with ourselves constantly. That we try to reassure ourselves constantly, and try to make ourselves feel better and to feel improved, uplifted and meditate when we feel good, and all the rest of it. Those are the problems that exist. And such problems could take in the form of spirituality. That by thinking that \"Once I have that sense of search\" -- as we call it, which is a euphemism to panic -- \"that I feel I'm searching something. I feel I have a purpose in my life in the spiritual endeavor.\" Such point is regarded as spiritual materialism, this point. That your search is built on deception. That once that you begin to search, you begin to find you can exist; you don't have to give up, after all, the everything. You get something out of it. And if you could sneak out into the back door slowly in the spirituality, that we regain our individuality. And I could quite possibly be on the top of the world again, become a demonic dictator in the spiritual-- in the name of spirituality, discipline. So that has become enormous problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1123.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have to look very closely, very precisely in this point, that what is actually mind, our mind's function. And all kinds of holes after holes involved. But at some point, even acknowledging those holes become a patchwork. That you think you are-- have exposed yourself, you've become completely purified and clean and a reasonable person; you clear out all the deceptions. And you have seen your holes in your logic. But then at the same time, you begin to build patches because of that. So it's endless game that goes on, which seem to be fundamentally, [laughs] basically speaking, that whole thing seem to be absolutely hopeless. And there is no way out and there's no way in. And only thing that one can do, one can at least attempt to do something about it, is acknowledging what's happening -- exposing oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1225.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem the basic point. That is what's known as the \"working ground\" in traditional language, is the working ground. And also it is known as the motive. The once you begin to embark on the spiritual path, one has to have clear motivation that what you are doing, what kind of style you're going to conduct yourself, how you're going to work with yourself -- motivation. And this is-- motivation is to expose oneself completely without the pretense of trying to create another patchwork, this point. That seem to be the basic foundation work, which seem to be important for us to review and examine again. And a lot of people might have heard such concept already, and may be familiar with it; but still, it is much safer -- pure, in a sense -- to go over again and think about it, and make it into a definite social study. Learning process again seem to be necessary.\n\r\nOkay. I think, if you like to take part in a discussion and question period, you're welcome to ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1293.0,1385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche-- is this thing on? It's on? Okay. The description you just gave of mind sounds a lot like ego. And I wonder what the distinction there is, or if it's relevant.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's-- I mean, ego is-- when we use term \"ego\" this point, we are talking in exclusive ego, which is self-indulgence and a self-style certain fashion, that looking for security and survival of its own existence. And then there could be the traditional Western term, that would use word \"ego.\" Also the whole thing jumbles together by saying that ego is also intelligent at the same time. But we are talking about the ego from this point of view, is the-- that stupid part of ego, that confused and aggressive part of ego that's completely blinded. And I think when we talk about mind, this point, we are not purely talking about that kind of negative ego alone; but it's the just awareness that exist within your being that is capable of relating with the reference point, very simply without any other trips involved -- passion or aggression -- but just coherent experience. That the basic notion of what Guenther talks about is \"noetic mind\", that mind-- certain mind has capability of experiencing reference point without big deal of anything at all. It's just kind of mechanical thing -- it's almost like having antenna. That basic mechanism -- or even if you could call it mechanism, that somehow diluted the whole thing -- it's basic intelligence of something that exist constantly all the time. And then we begin to color it, by saying, \"That is the case\" and \"This is the case.\" \"I would like to change myself in this way, that way,\" and so forth -- has become the problem. As that actually, you begin to change your mind, you know, after second flash. That you begin to make it into something else, rather than what you have actually seen.\n\r\nAnd it's like young lady buying hat. That you like it because you've seen it in the window of shop, and you thought was fantastic hat to buy. But then once you go into the shop, and the-- you ask the shop attend assistance to show you that hat you've seen again, once you begin to hold and begin look at it, you don't feel so good. And you feel maybe something's trying to con you and then you begin to change your mind. And that has become [laughs] some kind of problem that way. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1385.0,1575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you speak of mind in that way of the pure relating without the aggression and passion, does that correspond to the first skandha of the-- of form, the direct experience of otherness before the feeling of good, bad, and indifferent of the second skandha?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. That's kind of, there is still you are working with the no-man's-land. That there is a sense of area that is not particularly occupied by either \"this\" or the \"that.\" And there's a sense of openness still, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1575.0,1612.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I wanted to ask you something else. You said the motive, the working basis was to expose oneself without pretense. Does that mean a notion of sort of stepping out of just-- I guess, not in-- it wouldn't be a sense of indulgence, but a fearlessness, a stepping out and not being afraid to show what you are -- that might come after the initial feeling of self-degradation that you often get into when you start a spiritual trip.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I think very much so. That usually problem is that, somehow on the way, that we have been trained to think in certain way that the first thought that we come across is suspicious, and we had to provide with the second, reasoning thought. Which makes second thought is better, which reviews the first thought. And we then feel much safer and we feel more legitimate. That almost sometimes even we don't trust that either. We go out of the way by asking our parents, asking our teachers, \"I have this thought, but I don't know somehow whether it's good or not. And can you tell us, can you tell me, you know, what's happening?\" So it's-- there's so much layers after layers of security mechanisms been set up. And we be told to do that way, that's educational things. The very idea for professionalist is that kind of thing. That we feel that, if you feel sick, we ask professional, which calls \"doctor.\" If you feel freaked out, professional called a \"psychiatrist.\" And if you feel that our house is leaking or something's wrong with our plumbing system, we go to the professionals called \"plumber\" or \"builder\" or whatever is it. There's so many professionals we have to deal with from that point of view. That that is kind of rejection of the \"first thought is best thought\" kind of area, which has become always problem in the-- particularly in spiritual area. And there is some kind of intuitive notion that could be picked up, but we actually don't do that. And that has become the problem. So, I mean, you might say that \"What is the proof? Are we okay if we did that? And can you guarantee that if we have good-- if we went along with our 'first thought is best thought', and supposing something went terribly wrong, and then what happens?\" I mean, that is precisely second thought. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1612.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I just don't understand how you can do this first thought business without going, once you say-- it's, like, \"first thought\" makes the distinction -- it's, like, relative to second thought. And it just seems, if you say that there's a \"first thought is best thought,\" it's setting up a relativity. Whereas that then there's first, second, third -- when could you ever get to first thought again? I-- [laughs] it just seems like-- I don't know, the whole thing really bugs me. [Laughter] And I-- you'd talked about this before at the dathun, about this \"first thought, best thought,\" and I felt really limited by it. And I just feel like it's just first thought, then first thought, first thought -- like, *first* is, like, relative to second. Why not just \"thought is best thought\"? Thought, thought, thought, thought. I mean, I don't always feel like that. I'm-- that I'm conscious of first thought, then \"uh well, maybe,\" and then \"well maybe,\" you know.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that sounds like second thought.\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, that is second thought, you know, and that bugs me too, you know. [Laughter; laughs] [Laughing] That whole thing bugs me. [Laughter]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that point here is that if you begin to find out that first thought is best thought, and then you don't have any rooms to improvise further anymore. Even that second first thought is just a made-up one, or the third first thought. You know, you have-- you constantly keep on having first thoughts -- you *think* you're having first thoughts, obviously.\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is that deceiving yourself to think that it's always first thoughts and that--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well--\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It seems, like, really unfriendly to yourself--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --to say that there's a second thought. It's, like, why can't I accept the second thought as being a first thought?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't. [Laughter; laughs] That's obvious. That-- that you have a second thought -- you regarded that as first thought of the second thought. And then you have the third thought and the fourth thought and maybe the hundredth and the millionth one. And there's no end, let alone about the beginning. And I think that that's like when somebody says, \"Jump when I count down up to four.\" And instead, you jump when somebody is count as, you know, \"one, two, three, jump,\" and you regard the jump as being four. So you jump \"one, two, three, four, five, jump\" -- you missed the jump. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=1812.0,2006.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Jonathan?\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JONATHAN: I haven't heard you use the term \"first thought\" before, but is what you're saying the first thought in relation to a gap that-- previous to the thought, where there wasn't any thought? In other words, what you're talking about in first-- in second thought is that there's no gap between the first and second thought. Is that right?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That does sound rather complicated, but the first thought we're talking about is just first thought, you know. There is openness, and then there is thought.\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JONATHAN: But what about the second thought?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no-- there's-- second thought is reviewing process, usually. You can't have just two first thoughts simultaneously. That's impossible. You have one first thought, one at a time. Then second thought is reviewing the first thought, and then third one is further analyzing what your first thought. Then by the time when you into the fourth or fifth level, that you are in completely in contact-- or not in contact with the first thought at all. That you have completely distorted whole thing. That is thing.\n\r\nThat first thought we are talking about here is that there is a gap, there is flash, experience. That which-- you might find yourself being extremely fucked up person and insane, which might be the first thought that you glimpse, that you might find yourself. Not necessarily the first thought is the pleasant one and good one or high spiritual thought, but it could be just a true realization of one's neurosis, one's confused mind -- but whatever, it's always accurate. That happens, there's a gap and then first thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2006.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\n\r\nSPEAKER5: One of the problems with \"first thought\", it seems to me, is that once you have the insight into egolessness, that you're continually having this project of constructing a sense of who you are. That that brings with it a certain suspicion of thoughts as just further projections of that, further searches.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the first thought here, that you're trying to ask a question about first thought with your second thought. And that is provide a lot of problems in terms of communicating the actual thing to you. But at the same time, that first thoughts are not particularly regard as egoless and enlightened thought necessarily. But first thought could be true thought, what is in you -- that your raw and rugged fucked-upness, confused-ness, as well as maybe something greater, or relatively speaking, something enlightened and insightful. And in the first thought, could be all of those things -- could be absolutely shocking and could be absolutely complimenting. But again, that you can't ask actually, at this point, the question about first thought. And once you begun to ask question about it, it's on the voice of the second thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2130.0,2224.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman in the glasses. Both are wearing them.\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Yeah, both have them.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The closer.\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does this then constitute mindlessness, to have one first thought constantly?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This is not regarded as a process of practice, particularly. But this is regarded as process of guidance, in the sense that you have a first thought, have a flash of a spark of what you are about, who you are, what you are. You rediscover your mind as what your mind is might be, what is. And this is not regarded as continual practice, but starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2224.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I see that I'm constantly sneaking in the back door whenever possible, finagling myself. And it seems to be, what you're talking about is developing some way that we can be open to recognizing this flash, this spark, picking up on some magnetism that exists there and doesn't exist with all of this other stuff, this, you know, that immediately follows.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what we are talking this point is, we are not purely looking for mystical experience of the first thought as best thought particularly. We are talking about very ordinary, sensible way of looking at ourselves, and to find out who-- what is our mind. Do we have a mind at all or not? If we have a mind, that is your mind. And that happens very simply, very directly. And we are not particularly talking about the higher ideals that been discussed in the scriptures as such, particularly. But in order to find out the training the mind process, that we need basic ground, a foundation as to realize who we are, what we are. Only way to find out is to just look at -- and there you are. You probably hate it. [Laughter] And probably, you love it. And then, so what? You know, that's it. That's you! [Laughter] Good old you, you know. [Laughter; laughs] That seem to be the basic point of what we are talking about.\n\r\nFirst thought and second thought -- problematic language there by making whole thing sound too esoteric or something or other. But we are not talking in those terms. In this case, in terms of the connection with the training the mind, we are talking about just \"that\", which is \"you.\" Look at you. And find out you. Just look. And that doesn't probably bring any further spiritual ecstasy or extra depression particularly, because you know yourself already anyway. But it is necessary to have that kind of attitude -- that who you are, what you are.\n\r\nAnd you might ask question, \"Is this good?\" if you find out who you are. Or, \"Is this bad?\" No comment. And we haven't even got to that level yet, by saying what is good or what is bad. That comes later, in fact. But before we know who-- whether we are good or bad, we have to find out *who* we are, at the beginning. And that is the beginning point, that we have to really look into that situation. And in many case, that we be deceived by being told \"try to be good\" before we know who we are. And you be condemned before we know who we are -- that you are terrible, trying to reform yourself. That has been always the problem, which undermines our intelligence and sharpness and insightfulness of whatever. That we being led into a crippled situation by certain condemnation -- that you don't know how to carry yourself beautifully. \"It's bad. Try to be good and try to carry yourself gracefully.\" And trying to be intelligent and trying to dispel your ignorance.\n\r\nBut the problem that end up we have here is that, in fact, we have no idea who we are actually, who are doing those things. So before we get any of those affectations, so to speak, that we have to know who we are, what we are, which is just \"the first thought is best thought.\" Not-- \"best\" is, this case, is very tricky word. It doesn't mean to say first thought is good thought or bad thought, but the best you can ever find without any reference point. So therefore the word \"best\" in this case, use neutral. Like, \"That was great,\" that \"great\" in the sense of maybe appallingly bad or tremendously, excitably good. But we are talking about terms of energy, in terms of best here -- is you have a best flash of your first thought as much as you have, rather than that you are good person or bad person. And that seem to be the basic point of \"first thought is best thought\" as just flash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2275.0,2574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't seem to understand how I could ever answer the question \"who am I?\" because I'm not a static entity. You would almost have to ask me-- give me a certain situation or in relationship to what people. It seems to me that I'd be many different people depending on the situation. So how could I ever have a first thought about myself unless you also define the situation or the people?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that seem to be the basic point, is that very situation is part of your life. And one can't say that that situation was purely rehearsal, and purely attempted trying to define further things; but that very situation is your situation, is belongs to your world. And that's it. It doesn't matter what situation is amiable or situation is wretched. It doesn't really matter. But that situation is yours, your situation. So, the-- from this point of view, the whole attitude is trying to utilize every situation that you have experience in your life are usable, workable, productive. Rather than you're looking for certain particular situation and reject a lot of the others, which is a waste of time. So that very situation you have experience *is* your situation. It belongs to you; it's yours, whether it's good or bad, but it's still your \"first thought is best thought\" situation. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2574.0,2673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\n\r\nSPEAKER8: While I have the microphone, might I ask you, did I understand you to say in the beginning that there are people who have a sense of panic about whether they *exist*?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. [Laughter]\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It seems to me to that I've been-- I consider myself a fairly introspective person, but my panic has been the very opposite. It seems to me the basic anxiety of most people is they-- the moment of non-existence, because everyone who exist also realizes he's threatened with non-existence. So why is that not the basic panic?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we're saying the same thing. We're saying the same thing, actually. That if they feel they don't exist, that is non-existence. That-- which means that you panic on your non-existence.\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But is that not the basic human condition, that everything that exists also realizes they are threatened with non-existence? So it's unescapable.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is one of the dharmas that Buddha taught is egolessness -- that you don't exist -- and regarded as wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2673.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I seem a lot not to be able to separate my-- what I feel from what I think. And I'm just wondering if, like, when you're talking about if your first thought is your best thought, or your mind thinking, is your mind separate from-- or is my mind separate from what I'm feeling? Like, is there a split?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't matter.\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Oh. [Laughs]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Once we try to sort all this out, it's going to be very complicated. [Laughter] And we probably have to employ hundred philosophers [laughter] with a thousand laboratories to look into the whole thing. [Laughter] And that's too costly--\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I have! [Laughs]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and a waste of a lot of people's time. I think that you are here -- that's what you are. And, whether you are not here or whether you are here is the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2759.0,2828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems that you constantly refer to the practice of meditation as a gradual process, which seems to be a warning that there's no quick awakenings. But it also seems that that provides a lot of security, a feeling of process. How-- can you suggest a way to deal with that problem?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think process is very painful, particularly that we been trained to drive automatic shift rather than manual. And you have all kinds of tricks, that you don't have to wait for too long before you get what you want. And I think those kind of tricks had been expanded into spiritual trips as well. That for a while ago, all kinds of spiritual freaks and psychologists and so-called American mystical people are looking around all over the world, that who has this-- who has the quickest, rapid path, message. And that has been always the problem. But I think the question here is that, the gradual path might present you as some kind of security, promise of some kind that you are doing very solid job, like you're being really good citizen. But at the same time, you find that it's not painless. There's a lot of ordeals takes place, problems takes place constantly. That you find that maybe this is it, and then you find that that wasn't. [Laughter] And there's all kinds of process that being pushed in your oven, takes place all the time. So I think, as long as we're stuck with the gradual path, that even the security begin to rise itself out, and there's no problems with that.\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems that the first thought leads very smoothly into the second thought. And I wonder if there's a definite end to it where you can-- it just goes back into spacious.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, second thought is usually very juicy.\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Sometimes it's, like, at the second thought that you realize, \"Oh, I'm in the second thought. Now I can go back to this space.\" But I wonder if there's a place before you get to that juicy second thought?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. You see, you can't create artificial first thought by providing third thought. [Laughter] And one has to let go completely. One has to disown completely, so then, true first thought could begin again. And one can't, you know, strategize.\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So you have to let yourself go into the second?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is the basic message, seem to be, is the sort of leap or opening or go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=2828.0,3044.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, on the idea of first, second, third thought, or whatever, where does the watcher take perspective?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Second thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=3044.0,3061.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman on the-- at the wall, if you can call it a wall. [Laughter]\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Using the space you develop in meditation, I seem to become aware of a new-- of my body functioning logically in response to its built in subsistence, autonomic nervous system, and so on. And it does a very good job of it, even to the extent of working with rath-- moral judgements, good behavior. It knows from its memory bank that this is a good behavior, this is a bad behavior; it does it automatically. What I wonder is where the resolve of a bodhisattva or a buddha come, which part of the mind? Is that mind where that decision is made to devote your life to saving every sentient being? How does that relate to the anatta concept?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think the question of being buddha or bodhisattva begins right at the beginning. Of-- there is a very interesting threshold, that not knowing who you are and what you are, and somehow there's knowing who you are, what you are, at the same time. And that level, that when you have no idea of who you are, what you are -- and then you panic. And panic creates a space and openness. And then, you have some kind of understanding of that you are not who you are, what you are. And at that level, that interjection of the... whatever you like to call it, that thing happens.\n\r\nSo I think it happens at the beginning, and then as you proceed your path with the second thought, and your struggles and your artificiality goes on. And then some point or other, that there is also another gap. That you begin to find that you can also relate with the world as you're relate with yourself at the same time, as if in the same way. So it falls two parts -- that at the beginning, that panic and then insightfulness; and then, there's regular dualistic things happens with one's path, and then there's also gap at the same time, afterwards.\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In Buddhist thought, is there a realm whence these Buddhist--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there what?\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is there a realm, or is there an area--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Round?\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Realm.\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Realm, realm.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Realm, yeah.\n\r\nSPEAKER12: --where these magnificent thoughts arise, the thoughts of the Buddha, where this resolve to save the world takes birth? It seems to be so outside what is going on in the world, as such.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that world itself brings that way. That if you're actually in communication with the world properly, that that experience happens. Otherwise, you can't have any openness, except level of one's dream, one's imagination. So, that the more you are wakeful, insightful, that more you involved with the world completely. That you are painfully involved, very, very personally involved with the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=3061.0,3304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I wonder whether the first thought is actually a thought when it first happens, or is it only, like, first thought in relation to a second thought? I mean, is it, like, just instinct when it first-- when it's first given birth to?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's much simpler to call it a thought. And we can have all kind of analytical and all kind of scientific answers may be -- that first thought is not really fully thought, and first thought is maybe just a shadow that comes ahead of the whole thing. But I think that's too complicated terms of professional, experiential person is concerned. So that's why it is known as \"thought.\" Just a-- it's still ripple in a pond, which could be said as a wave at the same time.\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I mean, it seems like, at least in some of my experiences connected with-- almost directly connected to action in the body...\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? [Audience member sneezes] Gesundheit. [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I'm just-- I'm saying in the sense that it doesn't seem like purely in the head.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=3304.0,3414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\n\r\nSPEAKER14: During the tantra course [Journey Without Goal Talks 5 and 7], you referred to an idea of having to think twice. [Laughs; laughter] And I'm wondering what the difference is between thinking twice and having a second thought?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's saying the same thing. Second thought in this case is not necessarily that you believing that you have the first thought, therefore that everything's okay. But thinking twice in this case is, kind of... almost you could say it's the twenty-fifth thought. That there is so much exchanges taking place already; when you're on the level of the twenty-fifth thought, then you thought twice. You see what I mean?\n\r\nSPEAKER14: No. [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you thought twice because there is already allowed-- you have allowed already space.\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is that somehow different then from the second thought being an idea of having a doubt about your first thought? That much later than that, [INAUDIBLE] --\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, the second thought, the immediate second thought is conceptual level, purely. But once if you are in the hundredth or the two hundred fifth or fiftieth thought, then that the repetition is such that even quite safely we could say that your fiftieth thought is, again, becomes the first thought, because you have gone so far by begin to repeat yourself so much. And it doesn't make any sense anymore; it's just diluted the whole thing.\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Then is it possible to think twice without having a second thought?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughter] Sneaky, eh? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709#t=3414.0,3535.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163569/file/297709/transcript/87156/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we should close our happening here tonight. And there is a discussion that happens tomorrow, and maybe you could sharpen your... whatever. [Laughter]\n\r\nThere is some further announcement, just one quick one, quickie one.\n\r\nSPEAKER15: This is about interviews. Unfortunately, Rinpoche won't be able to give any this seminar.\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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