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Renunciation arises from experience of alternating hot and cold, the contradictions of phenomenal world. Renunciation described as nausea and revulsion rather than giving something up. Sense of vomiting comes first, then sense of coolness and spaciousness: \"every sitting practice of meditation that we do, we have to have some sense of conflict with hot and cold, some sense of throwing up, and also some sense of spaciousness takes place.\" Thus nausea, the skillful means, brings sense of space and leads to meditation practice, the wisdom."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 17 2020 to Mar 05 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Through meditation practice, impulse becomes workable, and everyday activities become part of spiritual path. Renunciation arises from experience of alternating hot and cold, the contradictions of phenomenal world. Renunciation described as nausea and revulsion rather than giving something up. Sense of vomiting comes first, then sense of coolness and spaciousness: \"every sitting practice of meditation that we do, we have to have some sense of conflict with hot and cold, some sense of throwing up, and also some sense of spaciousness takes place.\" Thus nausea, the skillful means, brings sense of space and leads to meditation practice, the wisdom."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=0.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to follow up what we discussed from the notion of mind and impulse level. That the impulse begin to become more workable, in some sense, and becomes more sane, in some sense. And mind still remains the same level. At the same time you be surprised that we usually think in terms of that practice of meditation is purely improvements of the mind. But that's not so. The practice of meditation is to improvements on the impulse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=51.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The actions begin to evolve much greater level. The actions begin to become much more in connection, in contact, with the reality, properly, first. And then, mind begin to develop much slower level, slower pace. So the interestingly that the conventional morality of spirituality being taught, that first of all you get completely sane and enlightened in your mind, then the actions begin to develop. So in other word what we are talking about here is that the signs of sanity is how well you wash your dishes to begin with, as we go on. And signs of basic sanity comes slowly afterwards, because that particular individual practice, individual relationship to the world become much more clear and precise -- that is the biggest and greatest sign, if you like to call it, of development. That's interesting point here. And in accordance with that particular approach, that the impulse becomes one of the most guidelines of insanity and sanity approach to life, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=103.0,227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nonetheless that individual's attitude to the spiritual discipline becomes much closer. In order to do so, that their bread-and-butter world had to become much more close to their spiritual practice, rather than their meditative state become close to spiritual practice -- where the distinction between spiritual materialism and true spirituality begin to actually make a distinction there, definitely so. That spiritual materialistic approach is seeking for higher state of consciousness alone. In the case of true spirituality that the highest spiritual development only takes place when the bread-and-butter and the kitchen-sink situation is already become spiritual approach. And therefore the impulse approach becomes interestingly important at this point. Important. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=227.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The next subject I would like to discuss tonight is the furthering from that-- in that process, the notion in the depth of hinayana discipline of action and wisdom putting together, closely. The first action which brings wisdom in the hinayana discipline, having understood about mind and impulse properly, fully, and having become a good student of practitioner in the sitting discipline, as well, as well as good dishwasher at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=300.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we get to next point where that renunciation becomes important landmark, important point where the notion of impulse begin to change into certain precision and a certain energy and certain conviction. At that point we are begin to allow ourselves to be treated in the realms of black and white. That is to say, that hot and cold showers are alternating rather than happening simultaneously. So we begin to take this shower, either the hot or the cold, simultaneously-- not simultaneously, *alternating* way. That we begin to get glimpse of the intensity of the hotness and also intensity of the coldness. And renunciation is experiencing love-and-hate relationship to phenomenal world, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=370.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we say, \"I would like to to renounce my mother, who has been pain in the ass,\" there's a very heat, lot of hot temperature begin to build up, burning hot. And on the other hand you begin to say, \"how much I love my mother\" -- that is cooling, and securing, and refreshing, that mother is always trustworthy, never let you get into trouble. The sense of coolness takes place at the same time. Which goes with a certain sense of warmth, of course, but nevertheless, that kind of experience. That whenever there's experience of affection, experience of personal involvement with any kind of aspect of our lives, there is always hot and cold process taking place very personally, extraordinarily vividly. It is very vivid. At some point that you begin to realize whether it is hot or the cold, couldn't care less, particularly. It's the same old temperature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=449.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That notion of renunciation in the traditional term \"shenlok\", which literally means \"nauseate,\" that you're completely nauseated with what's happening. And you can't get-- you can't vomit if the temperature is too hot or too cold. But you can only vomit when the temperature in your body and your atmosphere is lukewarm, which is sickeningly lukewarm, and then you can throw up, you can vomit. So the hot-and-cold, hate-and-love process becomes understandably meaningless in some sense. Then that provides this particular type of vomit, which is known as renunciation, this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=560.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case not so much of giving up anything. Renunciation usually means running away from something or other and retreating oneself in the mountain caves in the Himalayas, or what have you, in the Rocky Mountains, or what have you. But in this case not so much of retreating, but in this case it's actual nauseate, that sense of nauseation, that sense of nausea, sense of vomit itself is known as renunciation this point. And if you begin to give something up then automatically you take something in, which would be same kind of process as we discussed before. When you give up something, maybe which is cold, you begin to take hot, or if you might give up hot then you take cold. So we back to square one and same samsaric turmoil in any case. You can't really renounce anything at all from that point of view. But the true meaning of renunciation is hot and cold, passion and aggression, seeing simultaneously, again and again, all the time. Having done so, that we feel that there is some sense of undesirable things about it, which makes us throw up -- nausea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=624.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore the renunciation concept had to be changed completely from this point of view, out of the ordinary concept of renunciation, which literally as we discussed already is giving up something, running away. But nevertheless that renunciation of vomit consists of throwing up something that you have collected in you, and you're emptying out, you're just sort of giving up from that point of view. Not so much of metaphysical level but physical level, that you are giving up, you are begin to throw up, you are actually letting go, completely. There's stuffings that we had in our mind, in our body, that lot of patchworks that we begin to collect, and those patchworks, one after another -- passion, aggression, and what you have, all lots of things -- and begin to throw those things up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=720.0,789.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you experience the state of vomit, personally, first you feel somewhat sour, and then you feel somewhat sweet. And then you feel immense air building in your stomach, and your mouth begin to goes numb, and your head goes up, and you feel that whole tension goes up in your brain, your head. And then you begin throw up with tremendous pain. It depends on how much you're relaxed -- if you're very relaxed you can throw up very easily; if you're less relaxed you have choke a lot, and struggle with all those temperatures coming hot and cold and everything, [makes choking noise] you build up and then you throw up finally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=789.0,853.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you're good at vomiter you throw up long shot. [Laughter] If you are bad one you just dribble. [Laughter] And the whole thing is related sense of that how much you actually able to relate with hot and coldness of it, the contradictions of sweet and sour together. And that seem to be connected with idea of renunciation at that point. Of seeing the sweet and sour quality put together, it doesn't make any sense. And you bring out, on surface you splash outside of your system, completely. That tend to produce some sense of dizziness, some sense of \"no mind\", some sense of empty-heartedness and headiness, or whatever you like to call it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=853.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's the interestingly notion of practice meditation which the wisdom aspect that we're going to discuss next time-- at this point, actually right now. That nauseation and the notion of renunciation brings some sense of space, some sense of sort of local highness tend to bring, and where the practice meditation becomes more spacious, extraordinary spacious and realistic. So in other word, that every sitting practice of meditation that we do, we have to have some sense of conflict with hot and cold, some sense of throwing up, and also some sense of spaciousness takes place equally at the same time. And hopefully, that none of you would take all this very seriously, otherwise our meditation hall will be very messy. [Laughter] We will run up enormous bill in trying to clean up our zafus. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=904.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point a sense of coolness takes place, because you been working so hard trying to vomit, and finally there's some sen-- some kind of coolness takes place, which is precisely related with the notion of cool boredom in the sitting practice of meditation that we been discussing for a long time. I'm sure you-- a lot of you have read already, and since you have been studying all along these books, literatures, already, we don't have to discuss that further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=984.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The link between the two is the practicality comes first, the sense of throwing up comes first. And aftereffect of that actually leads you into sitting practice of meditation, afterwards. So that's sequential process rather than simultaneous process at this point. But nevertheless the skillful means works first, and the wisdom works later, as process goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1020.0,1055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think we could stop at this point tonight there. And if you would like to have any questions, you're welcome, on the subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1055.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, so far you've been talking a lot about aggression and passion working together. Is there a possibility of, with the renunciation process and the cool boredom process, of the stupidity and indifference creeping in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the interesting point is that passion and aggression put together, which usually happens in our ordinary life, which does provide the notion of renunciation, the vomit, automatically. And that brings state of meditation, desire for meditation and relax in the cool boredom, which takes place. Of course, this whole process is very biased in some sense, it's very religious, in some sense if you look at that way. But nevertheless, it is at that point, if you're actually experiencing those things you become less of a theoretician, speculator in the discipline, and more of experiencer, so there's no particular problems there. If you are actually soaked into the actual discipline and practice that sense of meditation becomes some sense of relief, of course we could say in some sense relief, but relief had to come from--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: From the struggle. Okay, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1082.0,1199.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Um--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It seems that we've been experiencing a little confusion about the idea of nausea, experiencing nausea with samsara, and making friends with yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With nirvana?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No. No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Nausea with samsara--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --and then making friends with yourself seems to... Perhaps you were talking about an indifference to whether it's hot or cold as one of the stages leading to the nausea?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is that where the making friends comes in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we been trying not to pick and choose and trying to make everything feels good. And at that point, maybe quite possibly, no making friends with yourself taking place, particularly, we had to be honest with this point. But only possibilities is when you begin to find the cool boredom with the sitting practice -- that's maybe the point where you're actually making friends with yourself. But in the state of nausea, there is no making friends with yourself particularly. It's also very rugged and juicy experience, of course. If you are completely daydreaming the love-and-lighty world, of course, then you'll be brought down by that [makes vomiting noise; laughter]. You know, obviously that's natural. But you might feel thankful to that, even if you already so spaced out you want to be brought down. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1199.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: When I'm feeling this kind of intense heat in my stomach, and a very irritation with all of the spacing out I've been doing, and trying to get away from that, and finally I decide the only thing I can do is kind of sit with it and look at it or just feel it out. And then what seems to happen is I get back into the breathing, I mean that-- I kind of look at it for a moment and then it seems to disappear. And I wonder what's happening, if I've pushed it away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you say. I leave it up to you, sir. I'm not particularly trying to run your trip, but trying to show you something what *might* happen. So I don't think there's any point in me selling-- telling you, \"At this point this is going to happen to you, at this point that's going to happen to you,\" like trying to train you as astronaut. \"You should press this particular button in this particular level.\" And somehow it doesn't seem to be workable. As long as you have nausea and as long as you have a sense of cool boredom, that seem to be the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd of course, I should remind everybody at this point, this is a very primitive approach. And in some sense something much more primitive approach than what I've been telling you people before, at this point in some sense. That's why I have some kind of trust and faith in you people, that you have already studied, practiced, you worked hard to come to this particular DDT [ed: ATS], whatever you have here. [Laughter] So, and I feel confident and trustworthy to tell you this particular process, which is nothing particularly mystical, a secret teaching by any means.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut however, that the point here is that there is a sense of getting from one place to another is taking place. But once you want to take one-- place one from another, take-- make journey from one place to another, that is also against Buddhist principle at all, and it is false logic in some sense. That once you trying to get from one place to another, if you want to put your fingers in your throat and try to deliberately have a vomit, it doesn't work, and that's the goal orientation that we are talking about. So I want you to understand that particular secret twist, you could say, we could develop, that quite possibly people could put their fingers in their throat and try to develop deliberate vomit, and then try to develop deliberate cool boredom, and somehow that doesn't work. The Roman kingdom didn't last all that long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1332.0,1541.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, yesterday you were talking about the mechanism of volitional action, the bouncing off against the wall. How does this renunciation relate to that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Let's do it. That's what I'm saying, is we are not theoreticians, we are practitioners. It'll happen, whatever. There's some little room for blind faith, as long as you throw up. [Laughter] That's the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1541.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68426/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Green and white.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In your book MUDRA, you have a poem in which you say--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: MUDRA.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You say, \"Do not trust anyone.\" But have, you know, love and compassion for people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yet don't you have trust in, for example, your own gurus?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gurus?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Who are still alive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Then I don't understand your statement--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have trust in your distrust -- that seem to be the basic point. 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Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1608.92,1611.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68427/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Yet don't you\nhave trust in,\nfor example, your own gurus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155#t=1611.9,1616.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130936/file/245155/transcript/68427/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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