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Without mincing words, Trungpa Rinpoche gives a direct, sophisticated, sometimes extremely amusing picture of how we navigate life through the filter of ego, how ignorance arises from that, and exactly how we can undo it. Contrasts Western and Buddhist notions of ego; from latter point of view, it is the constant holding onto \"I\" that is source of problems.  Discusses even language of \"I\", \"me\" as reinforcing psychology of ego.  Offers alternatives, and necessity of disarming ego, specifically by developing \"gentleness\", \"kindness\", \"tenderness,\" \"softness.\" Ultimately awakens goodness and dignity. A particularly lively, personal, humorous Q\u0026amp;A, with subjects ranging from the experience and existence of God to the inherent non-reality of cheesecake."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Aug 19 2020 to Feb 04 2021\nTranscribing: Jessyca Goldstein\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1979"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk that seems tailor-made for a late '70s New York audience. Without mincing words, Trungpa Rinpoche gives a direct, sophisticated, sometimes extremely amusing picture of how we navigate life through the filter of ego, how ignorance arises from that, and exactly how we can undo it. Contrasts Western and Buddhist notions of ego; from latter point of view, it is the constant holding onto \"I\" that is source of problems.  Discusses even language of \"I\", \"me\" as reinforcing psychology of ego.  Offers alternatives, and necessity of disarming ego, specifically by developing \"gentleness\", \"kindness\", \"tenderness,\" \"softness.\" Ultimately awakens goodness and dignity. A particularly lively, personal, humorous Q\u0026amp;A, with subjects ranging from the experience and existence of God to the inherent non-reality of cheesecake."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/296/small/open-uri20250519-778-d1imu?1747696808","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250519-778-l6d77w.mpga"]},"duration":4480.54856,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/296/small/open-uri20250519-778-d1imu?1747696808","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/296/original/open-uri20250519-778-l6d77w.mpga?1747696808","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4480.54856,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19791009VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19791009VCTR1 - Public Talk - New York City - Disarming the Battle of Ego]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public single talk entitled Disarming the Battle of Ego, given in New York City, October 9, 1979. This is a CTI auto-remaster made August 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=0.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --to New York to talk to us tonight, the Venerable Vajracharya, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=23.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I'm glad you're able to make it here in spite of the rain, and the pollutions bring down with the rain. And one of the interesting point is that it's been long time ago since I gave a public talk in this city. It was very interesting entering into the city from the airport, I just sort of renewed my recollections what it used to be like. And it seems that everything's the same thing, completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=81.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the outstanding things what I have experienced here, watching everybody driving through the city, is everybody seem to be somewhat preoccupied by-- without any reason, children, dogs, adults, older person, younger person, everybody seem to be preoccupied. And they have their particular objectivities, if they're going to walk towards grocery, buying grocery, whatever; or even returning from grocery, riding in taxi cabs, your cars, buses. Some people are about to achieve the objectivities on their way to grocery, some of them about to achieve; but still, everybody's preoccupied with this what called \"third element\" of New York City-ness, which is very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=138.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"More we have human ant hill, I suppose that much preoccupation takes place to maintain itself, which is somewhat problem. But on the other hand, it could be good. What we are interested in this case is purely trying to discuss very simple and ordinary spiritual pursuit. Which does not have to be religious pursuit particularly at all, just basic spiritual pursuit. And as you have read-- seen, it is titled \"Disarming the Battle of Ego.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=218.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is ego? Ego, from the Western psychologist's point of view, is a driving force which will make you success -- your strength, certainty, and power. Ego, from the Buddhist point of view, is neurosis that you want hold on to, never want to give up, give in, at all. In turn, provides tremendous chaos, conflict in one's life, one's existence. That what you only care for is one doesn't get-- one doesn't want to be hurt, or one doesn't sacrif-- want to sacrifice anything at all. Holding on to dear life, which is more than dear life, it's one's own propaganda as one's own basic stuff that we been collecting throughout our-- one year after another year, one after birthday, another after birthday. We be collecting education-wise, and learned how to defend oneself, and how to be a tough person, so that we can hold on to our territory. That is the Buddhist version of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=286.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And according to Buddhist tradition, that particular type of ego consist of three types of materials, or substance of ego. The first one is being ignorance. [Laughs] That is to say, your only concerned is \"me\", \"my\", \"me-ness\", \"I\", \"me\" -- or \"terrible me\", or \"darling me\", [laughter] me-ness, \"sweet me\", me. That me-ness has some sort of drowning factor; that you're submerged into total me-ness all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nI wonder we could turn on the lights a little more here, is it possible? Because I can't see you. It's not possible? Maybe could turn this down a little bit so I can see the others?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Whispering] This is as high as the house lights go, Sir.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [Whispering] That's as high as the house lights go, Sir. [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] It's better if you could turn it on. There it goes. Oohoohoo. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [Shouting from back] I don't think the sound is loud as it could be. I don't think we heard very well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I can shout.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever you say sir.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome. We were talking about me-ness. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right, please be patient. We come around -- I think. We will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=414.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of me-ness would provide ourselves to become totally unable to relate with anything else at all. When you look with your eyes, you will see \"me\" coming back to you. Could be any sorts of visual things, like if you want to do shopping, you want to buy clothes, and whenever you project yourself to shops, and appropriate coats and dresses hanging out in the shops; and you don't actually appreciate the materials and the particular type of coats and dresses exist there -- suits or whatever, or jewelries for that matter. But we project me-ness which makes us blind, and consequently, we might buy the wrong thing, because there's so much me-ness involved. And sometimes people go out as to the price they can afford, but they overpriced and you still buy them. Even under-price, people take a lot of pride in. \"Look, I managed to buy my matching ego with thirty cents. Isn't it great, great bargain?\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=612.0,708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And same thing goes with the hearing system -- when you hear, converse with people, and the conversation sometimes good or bad, or maybe people are kind to you or maybe people are not kind to you, complimentary, critical. And every situation goes around one's hearing system, and me-ness projects again, which makes you totally deaf. So we have blind and deaf that point. And other things, that environment that you would like to create your environment feeling -- exactly the same thing. That there is me-ness, which demands what environment *should* be. Likewise food, you would like to taste certain particular types of food, not because food is prepared in that way, or food has any cultural heritage, or cultural cooking systems at all, but me-ness, *I* want have such food. And you transcend, unfortunately-- or negatively, food. Consequently, we unable to actually taste the ethnic cookings properly, or real food properly, because you are in the way-- on the way-- in the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=708.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The problems with me-ness and \"I\" gets in the way all the time, whatever we do. That is, I'm afraid, bad news maybe; or it could be good news, on the other hand, if we are able to look into that properly, closely, and you might find what is the problem area altogether. It is possible to find out where is me-ness, \"I\", where is \"I\" come from. Why we should have \"I\"? Let alone \"am\", which is another problem. But just \"I\" with a capital \"I\" problem. We are talking about the beginning of the disarming the battle of ego, by the way. That is starting point and how we can disarm such thing at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=804.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is not only purely religious practices that we're talking about will make sense, or any kind of sense of giving up, or renouncing anything, giving up this and that, that and this. Giving up smoking cigarettes, giving up drinking, or giving up having haircut, or giving up wearing good shoes or good clothes, or giving up anything -- wife, husband, children, parents, anything, good car. And those particular gestures of giving up everything seem to have not particularly helpful outcome particularly. Of course, basically idea is how you give up actually at all. Whether you give up at all, but-- or else you don't give up because you think you have given up, you become pure, then you can indulge and greater level because you have given up. [Pants heavily][Laughter] Furthermore, ladies and gentlemen, it's funny and it's also [laughing] very sad, but we can approach that with a sense of humor. [Laughs] It's all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=870.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The weapons of ego is based on idea of you take, you pursue spiritual discipline, and thinking that will do the whole thing, purify yourself. You can swallow cotton cloth throughout your system and clean up, or you can regurgitate with the purified water, or endless practices of that kind happens all the time from the traditional discipline. But those things are not used as purely mechanical process of cleaning up oneself. Whenever there's \"I\" always it is problem. You clean up one thing, after that, we are replacing that cleanliness with another dirt, and that that is-- we call it soap; but the soap is also dirt at the same time. That has been vicious circle happening all the time. So the basic point is that \"I\", when you first flash word \"I\" -- \"*I* would like to order glass of milk. *I* would like to drink water. I, my name is blah blah blah, Joe Schmidt, John Doe.\" And where that first word \"I\" came from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=969.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a linguistic problem in some sense, it's very intellectual from that point of view, but again, linguistic has lot of root in the basic psychological factor at the same time. When you speak proper English, you can't say, \"Glass of water please.\" And if the waitress also proper English-speaking person, would say, \"*Who* would like to have a glass of water?\" Then you by responding-- end up responding by saying, \"*I* would like to have a glass of water, this me.\" It's linguistic but it's also psychological at the same time. Sometimes if the English-speaking people can speak little bit of pidgin English, might help. [Laughter] Not qualifying \"this\" would like to have \"that\", \"that\" would like to have \"this\" all the time, just little bit of giving in, which helps psychologically tremendously. It might freak out the linguists or the university systems, whatever we have, but nonetheless. \"Glass of water, please,\" which is nice; \"I would like to have a glass of water, please,\" which means -- a lot, statement, tough. The weapon is \"I.\" \"I am late. Can you serve me faster in your restaurant? I have to catch airplane. Can you serve me faster, because I have to catch airplane, *I* have to catch airplane.\" \"I am Joe Schmidt, therefore I am.\" [Laughter] \"I.\" Ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1081.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Disarming is not necessarily purely reducing your vocabulary of \"am\" or \"I\" particularly at all, but it is seems to be a basic state of being, actually, that point. Basic state of being where you have less reference point that regarding that you are the not only person who is in the middle of the universe and ruling the country, ruling the world. And usually that is the psychological factor. Either you feel important person or not, or famous or not, you have some sense of that when you sit on the toilet seat or take shower or go out about business, you begin to have this \"me\" is doing all this things, rest of world is surround \"me.\" And that has to be dropped. Which doesn't necessarily mean to say that you become gray and insignificant as the rest of the sand grain, blade of grass or piece of sand. But there is some soft spot possibility, which is actually process of *disarming* ego. And often people look -- this is another phase, by the way -- often people look in one's state of mind, and if you are in love, if you are passionate, if you feel connection and feeling loving to somebody, and often people have feeling of guilty concept, \"Maybe I'm not doing the right thing.\" And sometimes people have an over-guilty concept, of course, by taking pride and \"I deserve that,\" which goes back to the first logic, if you can figure that out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1230.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sympathy and gentleness and kindness and softness and loving, passionate is the best to disarm ego. Gentleness and softness and kindness and *tenderness*. \"Tenderness\", that's good word, \"tenderness.\" Which means there is no skin over it, exposing fresh flesh, tenderness, responsive; and also wanted to touch somebody else's tenderness together, so you can make mutual tenderness together. That notion of tenderness is very good. And that will only disarm the aggression of ego, of \"I\" altogether. Softness, gentleness, tenderness is very helpful to disarm ego altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1358.0,1420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That point, there's no territory, hypocrisy at all; natural sense of dignity exist. The tenderness also comes along with sense of decorum, and dignity at the same time, of course. And sometimes often we talk about tenderness from the point of view of two-hundred-percent hippie concept. And that means that you will vomit and diarrhea and shit and expose yourself on the spot person who love you, or you just do the whole thing and grease out any kind of rough corners by vomiting on them, diarrhea-ing on them. That is not quite tenderness, that's very messy-- very messy, [laughter] absolutely messy, and one doesn't do that. That's not quite even tender, that's cruel. [Laughs] But when we talk about dignity and goodness in this case, we are talking in terms of some kind of decency, that point. When tenderness is occurred, then you woken up and you have good head and shoulder, and you begin to develop the example of the Buddha who was sitting on bodhi tree-- under the bodhi tree with good posture, head and shoulder, good neck, and appreciating in the whole world, and majestic, kingly, imperial. That kind of tenderness and that kind of goodness -- goodness with tenderness is magnificent, and it could be said is quite outrageous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1420.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having disarmed already, altogether, the notion of tenderness is occurred, therefore, we can be dignified and have tremendous dignity and decorum, tidiness, cleanness, and everything goeswith that. And that seem to be the association of not hanging on to one's personal freedom of pure tenderness -- should not become a trip. Out of tenderness of one's own softness, you can appreciate others and extending tremendous hospitality and appreciating our neighbors, our friends, and even our enemies altogether. So there is sense of, out of that tenderness, you can extend as if you can extend your tongue million miles away; you are tenderness person, and you have this tongue of tenderness. And you can extend your tongue out of your mouth, and you have your friends building their houses on your tongue, and they cultivating little vegetable gardens on your tongue, and they're developing community projects on your tongue, your big tongue, you're still being tender. And that concept is not unfamiliar to Buddhism at all. There are lots of stories in Jataka Tales that even Lord Buddha himself had done that, that extend himself. That people could become a bridge and they should walk over you, they could be highway and they could walk over you-- drive over you, and they could become reservoirs so they could drink out of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1546.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that concept of giving individuals, everybody of that kind of tremendous generosity, and yet, they don't expect anything in return, to say, \"Mr. Goodman, I like very much your Buddhism and your bodhisattva-ness. And thanks, gee, great, you're...\" [Laughter] You don't expect anything in return particularly. It's a natural process, that you act as much as the sun does or the earth does or the river does, the bridge does, or the highway does. That natural sense of giving people room and space to accommodate everybody, that they can do that and you are not pissed off at them if the bad drivers on you, on the highway, or if there are bad residents on your tongue, subdividing and selling and making lots of millions [laughter] of dollars on your tongue. You still extend your tongue eternally, you be there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1664.0,1733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you imagine somebody can do that? I can imagine. And it has been done already, and you can do so very much, and that seem to be the idea of overcoming battle of ego. In order to overcome the battle of ego, one has to give in. When you-- when-- once you give in, give out altogether, then the battle doesn't exist anymore, or the weapons doesn't exist anymore. So it will be a natural process to-- how to create peace, and how to create real genuine enlightened society, enlightened society, *enlightened society*. It's possible and it has been done and it is possible that way. And we are not particularly joking, or we are not on a trip of any kind at all; we are talking very ordinary language and very simple. And it is possible it can be done, and it will be done so.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you like to have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1733.0,1828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In 1973, I spent time in Barnet, Vermont for about three weeks, and people there talked about slowing down time, and I think at one point you talked about stopping time. And I was wondering if you could describe -- in Western terms -- just precisely what that means, not in an Einsteinian way, but in a psychological way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what you think? Give me clue.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What do *I* think?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you think should be?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Oooh. I-- [laughs] I think it approaches the coincidence of language and thought in somebody.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Where the role of the adult and the role of the child coincide--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --and the role of the teacher of adults, and the teacher of childrens become-- children becomes the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yes. Yes, ma'am.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is it something like that from your point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, well, something maybe more than that, or maybe simpler than that is that everybody have to wash their dishes and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And do their own laundry, man, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And do their laundry.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And also they should learn how things grow on the land.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They should actually nurse cows--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What about their own children?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and ride on the horses. And their children should be trained, and it is very natural, that point of view. It's very direct. You can do that even in New York City. You don't have cows and pigs and things like that, basically, but you can have your children actually washing the dishes, and that washing dishes is not actually regarded as dirty job at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: As dirty what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Job.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Ah, as a dirty job.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: J-o-b.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But washing the dishes are regarded as purely way to have good meal. And next time when we have wash dishes--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Clean plates, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --then we have a good meal, we have clean plates tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, yeah. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that natural sense of actually taking responsibility is very important at that point, and one has to pay attention to that. And when we talk about dignified living situation,--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and often people have idea of employing a lot of servants and just-- they do the dirty work; and you have never heard of such thing as dirty dishes. And that is problem and that is, I think, a wrong vision or the wrong concept, a misunderstanding of greater living from the American Republicans or the Democrats is concerned. And people have different concept of living in a castle, being king and queen in America, which is completely misunderstood. That there sometime the kings and the queens do wash their dishes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. It seems to me that using the hands and the eyes together--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --is a very important part of intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely, to experience life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I teach little kids--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To experience life itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck madam.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=1828.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: It's taught that to disarm the battle of ego, it's important to develop compassion. In this society, you're-- from what you said, you're taught to do the exact opposite to survive. From every angle that you're always hit to defend your ego, and even though sometimes you try, everything around you points to do the opposite.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the opposite?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: The opposite is to think that ego is real.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I see. What's problem with that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: There actually isn't any [laughs] when I think about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I caught you.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughter] There is problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: There is a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: What is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, ego isn't real.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego *isn't real.*\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: It isn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, absolutely not.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And ego is made-up job, and it's a stage set.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And there's no such thing as ego, fundamentally speaking. And they are purely made out of fragments of things, little things. You might say there's no such thing as cheesecake, and the cheesecake is consist of flour and cheese and sugar and the blah, blah, blah, and cream and everything. There's no such thing as actually cheesecake at all. It's made out of little things, which made out to be little plumage and exaggeration of such-- so-called a cheesecake, but it's a lie.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: It's actually the components.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's components. It's not true. There's no such thing as primeval cheesecake. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: So what happens when it all dissolves?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: When there's no more--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: That's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It all dissolves.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: It just dissolves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you find your genuineness, you begin to find your cheese.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You begin to find sugar-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --separately. And you begin to realize the cheesecake propaganda is a lie. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=2047.0,2196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh. But just there's one problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: I'm sure I'm inventing it in my own mind, but how does one do action, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Action?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Do you lose your cheesecake-ness in a sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You might. You might, but you have the individual ingredients, and that actually point where practice of meditation comes into place, by the way.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that has become very important point. And when you begin to practice meditation and sit on your cushion, and you begin to find that individual entity, which consist of cheesecakes, you begin look at the sugar,--\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you begin to look at the cheese, you begin to look at the cream, and *everything*. So you begin to realize all of those situation don't make any sense at all, so unfortunately, your cheesecake is nonexistence greater, further. But that is actually good, that's why we call it \"enlightened society.\" When people begin to realize the solid situation does not make any sense, and it works that way. So you begin to wake, and when you begin to wake, you are awake; you can't deny that because you can't sleep.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have enlightened insomnia [laughter] that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, try and sit, sitting practice of meditation is very important this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Uh huh, uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's your name by the way?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Joel.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Joel. Joel what?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Kaplan.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, that's great. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=2196.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Can I, there's a-- I understand what you're saying, but there's still, like, the problem is-- that I have sometimes is that the cheesecake is as real as the components in a sense. And a lot of times in-- I try to annihilate, in a sense, my ego from a negative standpoint, and say that it's very bad. And in a sense that that doesn't seem to be correct either.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: It's like a double-bind type of thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Well, that's interesting one. And I think one of the problems is that when you begin to find contradictory issues within one's own state of mind, and you have to have lubrication of a sense of humor.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So that you are not stuck too hard and you are not punishing yourself. That you can actually create some kind of lubrication in which you can actually learn to smile, learn to smile and have a good time nonetheless. [Laughs; laughter] And that is very important point.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck, sir.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOEL KAPLAN: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=2316.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Psychologists describe and treat so-called pathological states, and like schizophrenia and various other states, and these are usually seen as inabilities to maintain a sense of self, which is inability to maintain an ego. And I wonder how you would account for that, and how-- if you would have some other way of helping people who are, you know, schizophrenic or whatever--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --whose problem lies there [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They unable to maintain one's ego from the psychology point of view--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Gentleman who asked the question is over on that side.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Oh, that's what *you* say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, I thought it was *you* saying. [Laughter] Oh. Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's my tongue over there. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think the question is that when they can't maintain their ego from a psychologist point of view, they don't even have enough samsara, which is a long way down the road. And people build up samsara, and then their samsara becomes not valid and a confused one, and then they don't have that kind of ego either. So one has to go through process. That is one of the interesting point in the Buddhist tradition, is the first training is to realize what it's all about with samsara properly, fully. And samsara is, in its way, active, efficient, so to speak, not quite, and it has its own logics. And one has to understand that. That's the point where the Western psychologism comes from, basically -- to provide the higher level of samsara philosophy. And Buddhism comes after that by answering every point of what they have discovered is false.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I'm afraid, I have got to be chauvinistic at this point, that as Buddhist I am, I feel that we have the better answer than others actually. Although the psychologist world has provided tremendous hospitality of coming of Buddhism into this country, in this continent altogether. And they were the host of Buddhism -- or maybe they have dig their own graves, [laughter] inviting Buddhism. And Freud, Jung and everybody -- Einstein as well -- who said that purely the non-sectarian science can only come out of Buddhism. So, here we are; Buddhism is in town. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Would you prescribe a different treatment then for--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think every treatment is sitting practice of meditation. If we begin to try and sort out every little flint or little spark of confusion and psychological problems, we will spend another hundred years. By then everybody's freaked out already, so we are too late, as far as Buddhism is concerned. And as far as a Buddhist agent myself, that I prefer to come along right away, and not analyze too much but sit and practice and do our best; so that by process of sitting practice of meditation, we will find ways and the concept that's the psychological discipline has already touched very nicely, beautifully and they thought so thoughtfully. And we will begin to find the room for that situation. And it works, it's beautiful that way. So there is a synchronization of some kind of marriage of the buddhadharma and the Western egotism.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=2397.0,2727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Sir, I've been trying to think how to frame the question, because it's kind of expa-- it gets expansive when the question-- when it comes to the question part. But, I've been involved in -- more or less consciously -- in spiritual practice for about ten years, and that's covered many different approaches and paths and I'm not totally unfamiliar with the Buddhist teachings. I heard a couple of the Regent's talks, and was inspired to go further and took some instruction in the sitting meditation, which you've mentioned. And there was one thing in the instruction, which kind of blossomed in a disturbing way, and that's when the question of God came up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That is when the question of God came up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And since then, where that's been in my meditation has been very interesting. You know, I-- it never occurred to me that the-- there was a real ostensible lack of teaching about God in Buddhism. I just-- I guess somewhere I figured that that was reserved for initiates. [Laughter] And it became [laughs] clear all of a sudden, I mean through explicit statement that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --the concept of God is not there--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --in Buddhism. And I'm trying to reconcile -- well I'll open the question there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's very sweet. [Laughter] Reconcile, hey? That's good. Well, I suppose we're trying to reconcile, in some sense, of the concept of theism and non-theism. Concept altogether is an interesting point in the coming of Buddhism into the heart of the Christian world. Wherever you go, there is giant churches and there is always people belong to either of the denominations of from-- ranging from Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox to Catholic, Presbyterians, and all the rest of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe question is, when you practice meditation, we are not approaching from heaven particularly -- or the sky, which will be easy word. When we sit on our cushion and practice meditation, we trying to establish our own ground, so that we can deal with our own basic confused mind, subconscious gossip and any irritations, and the past memories, which might replay back, tape recording system. And you might have problem with concentrating your breathing, and we are just working on the present situation of that nature, purely, just on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then if the question of upstairs comes up at all, it is purely based on what you do downstairs. If you have subconscious gossip, would the gentleman and the lady upstairs can help us to have not have subconscious gossip, so we can meditate properly, following our breath? And usually we find that is not possible, because when we think of the gentleman and the lady upstairs -- and there is three of you actually. There is the daddy and the gentleman and his mother upstairs along with a host of ghosts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Unless you're Jewish, perhaps.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's same thing in the way. We can cut out the gentleman with the mother and ghosts, but just there is still father.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: [Shouting from audience] What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Father with a beard. [Laughter] Would they help us to have-- not have subconscious gossip in our sitting practice of meditation, sitting on your cushion. Could they cut our thoughts? Sometimes they couldn't because they become part of our subconscious thought. Because whole tradition is based on memory and ethnic upbringing of all kinds.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But my experience is that sometime they can. I've been in a state of contemplation where--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They can?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: \"They\" is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say they can?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --\"they\" is a misnomer, \"it\", \"that.\" That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't matter \"it\", \"that.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They can cut your subconscious mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I have had that experience where in a state--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If they can cut that's fine, there's not problem. And that cuts themselves as well; it's their own suicide. So they don't exist either. That's very esoteric, I'm afraid, but that's actually truth. [Speaking Spanish] Comprendo?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well no, I guess I don't understand because that contradicts my experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if they can cut your subconscious gossip, they're cutting their own belly button.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [Shouting off-mic] [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe gentleman should have another microphone as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] It's a question--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could come over here? Can you come over here?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't quite feel that that deals with it. Again, the experience that I'm referring to is one in which I feel there was a basic contact with an energy, say \"the Creator.\" And the fact that I was not in conscious or subconscious thought for a particular period does not to me contradict that existence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Creator, that's fine, there's no problem with that creator. Well, according to Buddhism, as far as the creator is concerned, that you are creator of yourself. And everybody is creator in their own right. And somebody create this building, can imagine? Putting every block of wood on the stage, fixing up lights and everything -- they are creator of their own mind. And so that we build the universe that way. And we can't quite get over to the moon, and we apparently dropped a few packages of garbage and the stiffened flags on our moon. That's as far as creations went on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What I wanted to ask you was--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, please speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah. What I wanted to ask you was you were experiencing a father, son, and a holy spirit. Is that what you were talking about, no?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, the-- that's not what I was talking about in my experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Was this gentleman commenting on--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is father and son and holy ghost right here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Right here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure there is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I'm sure also.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yeah. That's why we have our floor and our light and our ceiling and flowers; we can breathe in this room without pollution, so to speak. [Laughs] [coughs] There are no problems with that. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That creation is very beautiful. I really couldn't just follow the gist of your conversation that's why I asked. [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All right. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=2727.0,3253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't feel quite a satisfaction with the question and response, but I feel like it's going to take some talking with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, ask more. Talk more.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh. Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Get back into.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Sing a song. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, I don't feel like hogging the mic either. It's-- it seems that your answer is rhetoric. I don't feel a certain basic truth with which I test the universe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Oh, don't box with that, honey.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Don't box with that. Don't tell him his answer is rhetoric. I hate to interrupt, excuse me. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did she say? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I said that your answer was hardly rhetoric.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Partly rhetoric?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And I-- if you had listened to what I said, I didn't say his answer was rhetoric, I said--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said that it *seemed to you* that his answer was rhetoric--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: *Right*, and I was--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So I just [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, let's get on with our discussion. It's become like natural theater. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [Laughs] It seems to be a very controversial topic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yes, yes, it's New York, of course. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3253.0,3337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [Shouting off-mic] [UNCLEAR: Pass me the microphone?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There we go again. [Laughter] Please say your piece. What was the problem? It partly rhetoric, right? Just you talk, go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Okay, I'll just cut right through it. I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter; applause] Great.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Right. I'm interested in the practice, I'm interested in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --in establishing for myself that the practice does not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine, that's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --contradict the grounding with which I come to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Which is a certain spirituality based upon an experience--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and a feeling of God. And it's not in the Christian tradition, it's particularly in the Jewish tradition, so I don't relate heavily to the father, son--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we find that out. We could find that out by process of sitting practice of meditation. We find lots of gods. You find the god of the kitchen, you begin to find the god of the laundromat -- there's a god in it too. You find god of the weather, like tonight we had rainfall, and we have god of the traffic -- I'm not talking about the policeman, by the way, [laughter] just natural god of the traffic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No, I don't distinguish--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you drive too fast, you bumped into somebody, it's message of god. You should--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But it's all the same God.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It's-- it is \"the\" God, not god of the weather, god of the traffic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's different actually, because when you talk about different expressions, are you talking about different expressions? And there are somewhat different expressions, you might have one manifestation, but it has different aspect of it, and we must acknowledge that, at least. That otherwise, poor little God have no charisma at all. He just one little God with a little white beard, and poor guy,[laughter] he's been pinned down, and you can't even join the traffic systems, and you can't even give somebody ticket, [laughs] you can't even serve in the restaurants, and how he could bless our food? [Laughs] Poor guy is be regarded as in one pigeonhole, it's terrible for him. [Laughter] So that's it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3337.0,3500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When I accept that I create my--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Wait, I'm over here-- I'm on this-- on your left hand. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Your left, your left side.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: He's over there. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: He's over there. He's on the other side, [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Why don't you go to the microphone?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: When I accept that I am the creator of my universe, and when I accept-- when I accept the fact that I am at cause over my world, that I am-- that I create that-- this world that I am in and it's an extension of me in some way, that is the time when I feel at mo-- the most at home and perhaps the most pure. And at the same time, it seems in a way that's the most egocentric position.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, indeed. [Laughter] Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: And there's a big contradiction in that for me. But I find that, as you were speaking of creating, that we all create our universe--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --and I related-- there is a contradiction in those-- in this-- to me in this two statements.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Naturally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Naturally, but I think we can't actually answer you sir, this point. And only thing I would-- actually will talk to you later is if you begin to sit down your meditation cushion and do some sitting practice, and you will begin to find out what it's all about. Not necessarily intellectual sense, theological sense, but just you need to sit with yourself, with your mind, and with your concept of mind, with your own real mind, and with your emotions, past history, and future expectations, and everything. That you will have that experience, everything's just going whirlpool [makes shooting water sounds] all along, and you have to experience that turmoil. And it's like watching a Jacuzzi pond without nobody taking part in it, nobody sitting on it, and your mind will be like that. But still, I think it is worthwhile to practice meditation, sitting practice of meditation quite simply, and you will find out the chaos and the possibilities. And I will say that your intelligence and your vision is very accurate and ripe and ready, but you have to have a way of slowing down all of those, because at this point it is like that jigsaw puzzle put in a bag, and you have to put jigsaw puzzles on the board. In order to have a board to put your jigsaw puzzles on, you have to have a sitting practice of meditation, so then we can figure out what it's all about. You can do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you are great, you have a great mind, and don't ignore that. You can do so. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3500.0,3713.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And now which one is this [laughter] talking?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: My turn, I guess. Good evening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your turn?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yes. [Laughter] Good evening. I'd like to ask you a question, or maybe just talk about giving up. I feel, myself, that giving up is, you know, really essential.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Giving up is really essential.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yes, that's a good question. [Laughter] I think that espec-- I think that giving up is something that I experienced when I was very young, and I found that it was very beneficial to my existence. And I found that giving up was just about the best thing I could ever do. And other people around me didn't think that way, you know, they thought that giving up was crazy, you know, ridiculous, you know. [Laughs] And as I grew older, I stopped giving up. And I would just like to know if that giving up that I'm talking about as a child--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --is more or less-- is similar to the giving up that you're talking about, in a way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Giving up ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you sometimes give up the paraphernalia of ego, but then you have a bigger ego. Sometimes you take on paraphernalia of ego, you have a smaller ego, on the other hand. So it's very tricky, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sometimes if you indulge accurately, that will take the rugs in your leg-- under your feet, completely. So you don't have rugs to stand on -- whatever it's called, [INAUDIBLE] . It's very delicate matter. That giving up is usually connected with basic religious ethics, that you give up that and you give up this, and it comes out big chunks. You give up sex, you give up eating meal, you give up eating, you know, drinking alcohol, or you give up your sky and you give up your ceiling, you live in the caves.\r\n\r\n\r\nGiving up is-- comes with lot of possibilities of all things. And sometimes you give up by talking-- no talking, saying \"yes\" or \"no.\" It's a problem sometimes that how much you give up-- *what* you give up, is seem to be the point. And, but at the same time, when you give up, you have to have appreciation of the world, nonetheless. Otherwise, at least that's according to the Buddhist practice, as when you give up, when you renounce, you still love the world. So you can come back and help them. So you're not retreating yourself in a little cocoon, anymore. So it's an individual practice actually. And I think your inspiration sounds extraordinarily good, sir.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But, you don't want to hear that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No thank you. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You want to hear that, right? [Laughter] But on the other hand, there's a problem sir is that you have to sit more.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And once you begin to realize your mind, and you begin to have a different idea of what to give up, or which to give up, when to give up, why to give up, how to give up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Okay, thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Be careful, sir. [Laughter] Here we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3713.0,3966.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Rinpoche, it seems that the cultivation of tenderness is very important, it's important to me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is it Nick?\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: It's Nick, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh my, Nick, you changed your hairdo.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: I've been wearing these lately, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good heavens Nick.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: I'm interested in the cultivation of tenderness and also-- and all those opportunities that one has to start practicing tenderness where perhaps one is frozen or neurotic or selfish and doesn't remember to even to try and practice tenderness. Would the sitting meditation be the only, or most important way to begin to cultivate tenderness, or are there-- or can one rely on one's own--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think sitting practice of meditation is only way. Sitting practice of meditation is the only way. We talked about that since we were in Oxford. Do you remember, Nick?\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Yeah, thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Can one rely-- to what extent can one rely on one's natural tenderness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One doesn't. One just sit.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: One sits.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One sits.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Right. Thank you, Rinpoche.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same as we talked about in Oxford.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: Right. Yeah, it's been slow-- [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nNICK SHOUMATOFF: --long time. Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3966.0,4051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Good evening. We are grate-- [laughs; laughter; applause] we are grateful for your loving presence and great teaching. And as you said, the people of New York, it's the same ol', same ol', they're all preoccupied down to the dogs and cats and the masters know why. It's a fortunate thing that His Holiness the Dalai Lama has sent prophets to all the peoples of all religions. And so would you please honor us with a few more words about the bodhisattva vow?\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bodhisattva vow consist of saying good thinking to begin with, and good practice comes out of that. Therefore, we should actually go along with that good thinking, good practice. We should do it, save the rest of the world. That's it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: [shouting off-mic] You claim to be a teacher, then teach!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [shouting] I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: [shouting] Use the microphone if you want to say something! [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4051.0,4125.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I-- may I say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I think the idea of giving up the ego is a wonderful idea, and I'm working on it myself. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good for you! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I have, however, a concern that I'd like to hear your response to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Give you-- giving up ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Pardon? I have difficulty understanding. What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Giving up ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Yeah, I have a concern about this idea.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you better have a concern--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --because you're really going to give up your best jewels that you cherishing for so long. And it turn out to be not all that good jewel, but on the other hand, if you want to be fake, would be the best jewel to be fake. And we are talking about being genuine. If you want to be genuine, one has to drop that particular jewel of yours, which probably has to be clean up outside of jewel, or inside your jewels, you have real good jewels -- family jewel. And you have that already in you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I'll tell you what my concern is. When I look at the history of the twentieth century, I see that in those countries where individuality and a sense of self is encouraged -- like the United States or England, Scandinavia -- in those countries there has been much less inhumanity to men or mass murder than in other countries where a sense of individuality, individual independent thinking was discouraged, like Nazi Germany or Italy or Stalin's Soviet Union under Stalin. And it makes me kind of anxious, I get scared when I hear that people should forget their \"I\", because I'm scared that people will start following demagogues and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: --totalitarianism may be promoted when people give up their individuality and their critical independent thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well, we are talking about actually a Buddhist world, this point. There is individuality of individuality policy. And there's a policy of individuality with a tremendous ego policy -- that's could be regarded as Nazi Germany and all the rest of it. But we are not talking about individuality is based on concept of a god particularly, but we are talking about individuality and the concept of personal dignity that could come from personal respect to themselves. And simply, we could actually free ourselves from the rest of the historical possibilities of how things went right, went wrong, particularly. And we are talking purely in terms of people can appreciate our individual salvation -- personal dignity can be realized without joining particular core group of religious philosophy of any kind, or possibilities of that particular hierarchy at all. But when group of people join together with their own dignity, there own sense of great forward vision in themselves, they agree simultaneously all together\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Does Buddhism encourage individual, independent thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Individual, independent thinking based on non-thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: This is encouraged?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Non- thinking, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Hmm, thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, therefore, you have enlightened society. [Unknown incident] -- whoops. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4125.0,4422.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80053/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ladies and gentlemen, maybe we have to stop at this point. We have a lot of students here. Thank you very much everybody. And I think we have to stop at this point. And a lot of our students here had to go home, and get next job tomorrow morning, and babysitting and everythings. Thank you everybody joining us here, very much. Please take care of yourself. [Applause] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4422.0,4480.54856"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19791009VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=0.75,4.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public single talk entitled\nDisarming the Battle of Ego,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4.67,10.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in New York City,\nOctober 9, 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=540.35,541.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: [Whispering]\nThat's as high as the house\nlights go, Sir. 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[Laughter]\nGood evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3719.59,3724.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to ask you a question,\nor maybe just\ntalk about giving up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3724.8,3731.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel, myself,\nthat giving up is,\nyou know, really 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Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3933.54,3935.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But,\nyou don't want to hear that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=3935.4,3937.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: No thank 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4128.17,4130.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/901","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: I think the idea\nof giving up the ego\nis a wonderful idea,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296#t=4130.3,4135.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/148707/file/273296/transcript/80054/annotation/902","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I'm working on it myself.\n[Laughter; 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