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Karma as created by dualism introduced by ego. Nowness approached in two different ways: through ego, and as open space. Example of good scientist, artist as acting without the watcher, without ego. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] if art is approached with aggression, whether better to focus on meditation; [Q11] karma as growing from ego's attempt to create ground; with no ground, no karma; [Q13] how \"I\" without implications is beyond ego; [Q17] thoughtful exchange on karma of Black Americans; how they transformed the aggression leveled at them and transmuted their own anger and frustration into energy, happiness, active forces; American culture could not exist without Black Americans.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 21 2021 to Jun 12 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAbout relationships between skillful means, science, philosophy. Karma as created by dualism introduced by ego. Nowness approached in two different ways: through ego, and as open space. Example of good scientist, artist as acting without the watcher, without ego. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q1] if art is approached with aggression, whether better to focus on meditation; [Q11] karma as growing from ego's attempt to create ground; with no ground, no karma; [Q13] how \"I\" without implications is beyond ego; [Q17] thoughtful exchange on karma of Black Americans; how they transformed the aggression leveled at them and transmuted their own anger and frustration into energy, happiness, active forces; American culture could not exist without Black Americans.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-3n416j.mpga"]},"duration":4241.97219,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/530/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-3n416j.mpga?1783093638","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4241.97219,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711122VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711122VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado in November 1971. This will be talk number six, November 22nd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the last night's talk, we have finished by touching on the subject of skillful means and wisdom. And we might pick up from that point now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=26.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The skillful means connected with relating with scientific situations of life; and wisdom related with philosophical implication of life. And it seems that there is, as we discussed yesterday, there's choice between the skillful means and wisdom, or knowledge for that matter. We might say that if the whole situation of karma is involved with some kind of destination [ed. predestination], how would it be possible to determine any decisions? That seem to be the one of the point that, if we already prepared and if we already programmed, then how can we determine the decisions, and how we relate with that karmic situation? And at this point, that karmic situation is, as we have discussed already in the first talk of the seminar, predetermined up to the present state of situation. Since-- the interesting idea is since karmic situation is created by dualistic split and subject and object, and its existence gave birth of karma, as the father and the mother gives birth to child. And karma is determined by relationship between subject and object, or the ego and its projections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=49.0,221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The ego constantly takes new look at projections, and by making new-- by taking new look at projections, then automatically the projections begin to become solid or friendly or threatening situations. So then one finds that situation is sort of dwelling place to maintain and to operate. And beyond that dwelling place of the future possibilities of maintenance of ego, there's no dwelling place at all. So ego have to maintain itself perpetually every moment, trying to maintain itself for the future purposes. So since the radiation of ego doesn't reach beyond the present moment, so the future is unoccupied by ego or the unoccupied by karma, as well as a fraction of the present moment is also unoccupied by ego or karma. The present moment is purely create a kind of space where the function of ego and the karmic situation could happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=221.0,302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in a sense, we could say there's the ego's notion of self-consciousness, which is connected with-- ego's notion of self-consciousness is connected with the security of the nowness. And at the same time, the ego's notion of threat or non-existence of ego, possibilities of non-existence of ego and possibilities of discovering such thing is the another portion of the nowness, which has-- which is complete vacant and open, purely unoccupied by karmic situations. So there's a kind of twofold nowness: the watcher watching the nowness, and the absence of the watcher, which provides two aspect of nowness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=302.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in terms of time, of course, they are not determined by process or evolutionary process alone at all; it's one nowness has been seen in two different ways. One put to watching process and tend to watch oneself; the other aspect cease to watch. So there is insecurity from point of view of ego, but that's also the glimpse of basic space at the same time. So the determinations and decisions that could be made from that point of view, that there is definite decision that you can make in terms of maintenance of ego, or in the sense of terms of relate with the present situation to what might be the things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=364.0,424.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's again in the same process in terms of decisions of making-- relating with skillful means, in terms of scientific research or in terms of spiritual search, whatever is may be, that there is constant decisions all the time. Whether you decide to get into the area of vacant area, or whether you decide to get into the area of occupied by watcher or the concept. So therefore, it is been said, like ego is like game of chess; or the karma, rather, is like game of chess. That your present situation is determined by your past move and that could intimidate you, and then you could make mistakes, which sets chain reactions to upset the situation. Or else that you realize that your past move-- your present state is related with the past move, so future decisions are purely depend on your move, so you feel confident to play the game of chess. That you will win, you have alternatives, so you don't panic. So it's karmic situation is, therefore, partly determined by a glimpse of the present in terms of future, and partly determined by seeing situation as it is without watching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=424.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that leads us another aspect of work of art for instance. That if a person is extraordinarily good scientist or good artist or good musician, that person completely absorbed into his work of art, and he's not self-conscious of his painting picture or composing music as such at all. That person just go along with actual living situation without a watcher. And because of that, then the product is a work of art. Because you cannot have a work of art with a watcher. You can always be sure that if there's masterpiece of work of art, it's product of non-watcher. There's no doubt about that. So therefore, if person is completely involved with knowledge that he's working on, then in terms of American karma, or whatever is may be, national or international, whatever is may be, that completely seeing situation as they are could lead into right situations. Or not necessarily right or wrong in terms of dichotomy, but right or wrong in terms of what is so and what is not quite so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=538.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that karmic process of skillful means is a non-watching process that we be talking last night. And there's the other area of the knowledge, the philosophical area, which would lead American karma into another channel, another situation. And that is that there's extraordinary reaction against things done logically, things done scientifically. And things should be-- should have done either in terms of fatalistic attitude, or else in terms of non-caring and philosophically, in terms of relate with the matter. And what is important is the mind. And purely mind is important, and the magic is important, which believes there is greater room for magical happenings without scientific interpretations and a kind of philosophical concept of co-existing by purely trying to maintain the pattern of imagination alone. And in that case, that there's no precise-- or the precision of the skillful means there is at all, there is not. It's purely living in a dreamworld sort of thing. In that case, such as like psychedelic experiences, and even idea of man landing on the moon, is philosophically interpreted, rather than scientific achievement of practical level. And another kind of intellectual way of looking at the situation, which would lead into greater and greater a diffused of precision, dissolves the precision into professorial vagueness type situation, uncertainty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=629.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From that point of view, the \"knowledge\" or what's called \"prajna\" is purely regarded as something extremely fascinating to look into. Extremely fascinating to perceive, for the very fact that you and your knowledge are regarded as a separate entity altogether at the beginning. And if you have failed to understand the basic process of that knowledge, then you be panic, you be threatened. It is quite possible that there will be a purely philosophical politicians or paranoid politicians would suddenly interrupt the man's search of scientific and practical, skillful means. That America is taking its journey could be suddenly interrupted by channeling its into one particular process. Or for that matter, it is possible that because of the knowledge is so powerful and alien to you, the knowledge is not able to communicate with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=803.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it is feasible that such situation of what happen, that all the books or-- that exist in this continent could be burned or destroyed, or any intellectuals could be captivated [INAUDIBLE] thought of fixed idea, fixed philosophy. So the venturing towards wisdom or knowledge seems to be destructive and extremely dangerous, which could set out of this panicking situation. So American karma seem to be lead us in this point is either scientific and spiritual odyssey, which leads us to infinite. Or else there is panic of the knowledge, the wisdom, and trying to fit itself into pattern of philosophical ideas and having not able to do that, because of failing to relate with scientific situations, and there's kind of sudden panic would come over to the whole over the country and destroy anything to do with knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=889.0,955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So from that point of view, the development of communism for instance in other countries could be said as not of skillful means, development of skillful means, or the expression of skillful means, but communist in development in countries could be said that of extreme cult of knowledge. That philosophy of revolutionary spirit is living in a dream. And the emotion-oriented knowledge tend to play most important part of that process. And when I say that we would have two choices in this American karma is-- this is purely theory of course, I'm not trying to make predictions, as [INAUDIBLE] any other predictions like other channels of medium mystic, or mystical trance as such, but it's just pure scientific again, the expression of the skillful means, which lead us this theory of American karma, would lead us either of two situations. We could stop there. [laughter] Questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=955.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You were talking about the arts in relation to skillful means and that the-- that the-- that skillful means is non-watching, and that the great artist will be completely absorbed in his art, whatever it is. And-- but often there's a great deal of speed and aggression associated with art. If there-- in a case where there would be a lot of speed and aggression, would it be advisable for an artist to renounce his art and to concentrate on meditating, or to try to work through his aggression in relation to the art and in relation to meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be related with purely how the person views work of art. If pursuing the work of art without aggression becomes another struggle, then it becomes again expression of aggression. So you can't get away from that. So for that matter you might stay in it as well at the same time. It seems that constant relationship with art is necessary, rather than giving up, and relate with the meditation as it comes. You see, when you give up something that way, you are rejecting possible energy which apparently may be false or unskillful, but eventually there is a seed of it, because you are highly fascinated by the whole thing. There's a seed of wisdom or intelligent in it, so I would say it's should be related with. The whole thing should be related with... without too much struggle altogether. Because struggle of giving up is in itself double-cross from the ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=1068.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, in what I gather, you-- I think this is what you were saying, that this-- like a very beautiful precision in science, in other words, to be a scientist would have to be very precise, very-- which would be beautiful. But where does the wisdom in-- come into, so that the whole thing has some fruit to it in our karma? Now maybe I misinterpreted it a bit. I thought you were saying that the insight is there is a really beautiful precision, which would be skillful means, which I can relate to. But it seems to be flopping, flopping over all the time. So if this country is to have, you know, good karma, how does-- how do we relate, say, you to the scientists? In other words, how do these two things get together so that they can be like a blending of the-- of precision or skillful means and philosophy? Because it seems to be like a war really, or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE] I don't see it where science is relating to people really at all, except to create like big skyscrapers. And everybody says, \"Well, we're going to the moon\" but you don't know why, you know, it's tax money. I'm not quite sure about it [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose the scientific knowledge... somehow inspires that there is a great depth in the universe than we just purely perceive or see it from purely primitive's point of view. And knowledge in the-- or wisdom in there is-- what is required there supposedly is absence of speed or the aggression. Like if person is extremely charged up by certain discovery or certain knowledge that would be willing to destroy whole city for the sake of discover scientific discovery. That kind of aggression, which doesn't allow any room to inspire anymore, because whole thing becomes extremely competitive, and... [laughter] whole thing becomes repetitive rat race. That within that scientific approach, if the spiritual approach is also related with the scientific approach of discovering the essence of a human being, or essence of sentient beings, is also scientific discovery. And if there's some link between human quality of the psychological discovery, is also related with precision at the same time, and that precision can only come from practice of meditation or relate with the meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But why haven't the incarnate lamas, like you and other ones in Tibet, when you get a new body, why don't you become scientists then? [Laughter] No, really. I mean... [laughter]  [INAUDIBLE] because you would seem like the perfect mixing of precision--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --of the beauty of the science--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite agree, yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --and skillful means and the Tibetan-- and philosophy. So why haven't with all of the wisdom of the, you know, the incarnate lamas, why haven't they become scientists instead of philosophers? Which would sort of bring things together. I think it would be great. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think this is going to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. [laughter] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Course that's what I would like in another birth. I think I would like to be a scientist yogi. I can't imagine a more fascinating thing to do, really.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, it would work wouldn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it would, yeah. [laughter] Definitely work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It would be like perfect blend of-- TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: For now, for where we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right where we are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, the trouble is what happens with the like translation of Tibetan or Japanese or Sanskrit literatures, Indian literatures, translate into English language is done purely with aggression. In the university faculties, university situations alone, aggression and concept are purely trying to get your PhD, therefore, you are doing this translation. And because of that approach, therefore, the product is the lot of translations have done becomes very dry and purely technical. There's no feeling of wisdom in it at all. So it seem to be equally good that if some meditators could do same work as translation work, and relate with English language, your own language, without ambition, without a particular target or goal or aim to get PhD or whatever have you, but purely way of life. And I think that could also improves the quality of literatures, as well as would be very helpful to future readers as well as themselves. Which is exactly what happened in the past with Tibetan tradition in the ninth century when they translated Sanskrit literatures into Tibetan. They have studied and practiced first, and then they translated with feeling. And I think that's-- in other word, that's perfect example, meditative, scientific approach. Meditative, this case, is wisdom; and scientific approach this case is skillful means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=1252.0,1730.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is there any particular advantage in developing, say skillful means or wisdom, or is it sort of the-- that the advantage lies with doing both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think situa-- as long as a person is willing to learn from lifestyle, life situation, automatically the potentials in that person would rise towards either of the situations. But again, at the same time, you can't have bachelor wisdom or bachelor skillful means. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=1730.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: One of the things that people are apprehensive about in the scientific discoveries is the-- in the field of genetics where--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Field of?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Genetics.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Where scientists are projecting that they can reproduce copies of the same type of person, grow them in incubators, and do all sorts of alterations with human bodies. Is that-- do you see any hope in that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, as long as the scientific research work is related with inspirations of human quality, then anything which is connected with unskillful approach or connection, any connection which is associated with ambition of ego, is automatically diminished, because there's a basic instinct of we'll correct them properly and right the situation of harmony. So any kind of unnecessary, or destructive in fact, harmful or dangerous work of any happened would not allow. Because that means the person is not really getting into it properly, therefore they have to try all way of convincing themselves, go as far as I said, destroying whole village in order to have scientific research work. So such things doesn't apply anymore if there is complete involvement in skillful means.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Do you see that happening in American karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think Americans are too revolutionary to go as far as blind faith in the scientific research work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=1782.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: A quote of the Buddha's that guides me in so many things that I do is, \"As long as you think that you are the doer, you will continue in the wheel of births and deaths.\" And the total absorption and the-- we're preparatory to art, the-- I just-- I wish you would say something about how to be totally involved in something in relation to-- in being a skillful subject in relation to [INAUDIBLE]. And really seeing things on that term, not being able to carry our wisdom through, without producing a karmic reaction, without having, you know, a real pride in the achievement as if you've done it or a real sense of desolation if it didn't come through the way you wanted it to.\r\n\r\n\r\nCHILD IN AUDIENCE: Mama. [cries] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Do you want some water?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I guess, if that's-- if I were to narrow it down to what the question would be, how can you be totally absorbed in the skillful means without creating karma? You have to get through a period that you are not the doer. You’d have to really be centered in not doing and just do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's purely relating with projections as really they are. You see, you don't have to overcome the projections, or you don't have to destroy them. It's the conflict arises between the projections and projector which sets fixed idea or you put a filter between the two. So you have seen projections into-- instead of seeing, for instance, bright and clear vision, you see through filter of red and blue or whatever have you. So it's that misunderstanding produces karma, that produces panic. And that produces something to dwell on, because you find the extraordinary bright visions are too overwhelming. So I think if you really able to get into it, at the beginning may be quite painful, quite discomforting, but in certain stage that becomes much more easy to relate to. And if you're really fully involved with the projections as they are, really truly, then that doesn't sow a seed of karmic process at all. Because you don't misinterpret them, you don't sow a seed of possible chaos anymore. The karmic situation is that you are sowing seed of possible chaos on the process of dealing with something, sooner or later you discover the mistakes, and then mistake begin to hit you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=1898.0,2074.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, would you mind talking a little about what you think the karma of China and Russia [INAUDIBLE]? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose when we are talking about the communists' approach of extreme wisdom or knowledge, too much emphasis made on the knowledge. And from that knowledge, that you develop all sorts of extraordinary cases of trying to unif-- make whole thing is uniformity, into one particular pattern, one-- guided by one particular ideology. And it seems it is highly possible that if that ideology becomes extremely dangerous in terms of-- organically, in terms of human situation, literally, directly dangerous. And destroying numerous-- or one could say interrupting numerous inspirations. And somehow the basic intelligence of buddha nature somehow would spring up, and it would react against to it. So there is a great possibility of also they might swing back to other situations, because if American karma goes this way, but the other world's karma goes this way, and since the whole Earth is being shared by group of people, or group of nations, so radiation of that positive discovery and positive healthy situation would automatically react against to the negative one and set chaos to it and try to automatically grow into a positive aspect of it. So it is highly possible that there is possibilities of swinging into the right direction somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, is that connected with the degree to which China and Russia will come to the end of the materialistic trip?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. Which is for them it is not a materialistic trip in terms of scientific one at all. It's ideological, psychological materialism of its highest peak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2074.0,2261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Do you think there are some people that make more rapid progress with regimentation? Are there kinds of people who are like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are there what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Do some people make progress faster with regimentation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Regimentation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Being channeled.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's seem to be rather impossible. [laughs] You can't make anybody into a slave of enlightenment. Somehow there's always-- final discovery is always individual and alone. I mean, the whole inspiration of Buddha, for instance, was he was so lonely at the beginning. He was lonely person and that particular kingdom was thinking on those areas, those details. And he find he's extremely lonely and alone. And his discovery is based on individual discovery, rather than somebody pushing you into that directions. And what generally happens is if you put into situation of regimental way of practicing meditation, for instance, like that, and person would develop up to point. And then sooner or later person begin to find they have to break away from that regimentation, and they have to make their own lonely search, individual search, alone. That seem to be always part of pattern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2261.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Isn't it because there is no such thing as direct experience en masse? It's not possible to have-- it's not a question of knowledge, I mean, it's a question of experiencing something. And that is of necessity an individual thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I wanted to ask you, do you see any difference between China on one hand and Russia on the other? Because I have heard that-- I don't know if it's true, that Mao Zedong said when he-- about the cultural revolution, that he thought that there should be a new generation with entirely different orientation. That if they are going to grow up wanting things, then it's going to turn out to be the same thing, it doesn't make any difference what kind of government there is. I don't know if that's true. Seems to me it's very different from Russia.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in the first part of the thing we discussed about meditation, is that there's something else involved with that. Is that if you been imprisoned or overwhelmed by external regimentation or institutionalized rule, that, \"If you don't attain enlightenment, I will kill you.\" Somehow it might work in some cases of like Zen sudden enlightenment stories, but on the other hand, it doesn't seem to be possible to approach that way. Because at that point, you begin to realize the separateness of you and your search and your goal of the discovery, so you begin to lose the intimacy with the idea of awakened state of mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in terms of cultural revolution-- revelation-- revolution, [laughs; laughter] is that I think it's extremely unrealistic on the Mao Zedong's idea. That he believes that psychological materialism is the essence of mankind, is the spiritual essence of mankind, spiritual essence of mankind is the psychological materialism. That if you-- externally, if you channeled mankind into that orientation in terms of physical setup, and cultural revolution setup, then he believes that mankind would awake towards that orientation, because they are basically materialists, mankind altogether. And that's kind of distortion of the-- almost could say that it is possible that there is Buddhist influence of buddha nature is being misunderstood, or used on his benefit, on his ideas. That somehow there's something beyond that psychological materialism, is questioning mind -- which is called reactionist in the communist ideology. And that reactionist are the-- that mentality of reactionism is basic intelligence which questions everything, doesn't accept everything. And it seems to be that that questioning mind is more powerful than the psychological materialism, fundamentally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2384.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would you say that the-- that capitalism represents the-- what you'd call the first lord of materialism, and that the communism, the way it's set up now, represents the second? Would they be good examples, the materialistic aspect of them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the capitalism is-- has the-- philosophy of capitalism is very unorganized and undisciplined. It's an individual path.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I guess I was thinking of the aspect of it that it-- it's relationship to things, versus the communist relationship to ideals.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in a sense that the materialism, psychological materialism of capitalists, are the-- have the sort of sybaritic mentality, and pleasure-oriented. And that pleasure orientation is very much individual. So because of that individuality somehow that that allows people to break away from it, because you don't have to believe in a basic religion or basic philosophy as such. So that individuality seem to help in the general social situations. They be not forced to believe in one dogma. Whereas the communist philosophy is kind of ascetic approach, that trying to become completely one with psychological materialism and use that as a practice. And doesn't allow any individuality, sort of group-oriented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2625.0,2755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When I read BORN IN TIBET and got up to the-- some of the episodes about the behavior of the Chinese military toward high lamas, and the persecutions and, you know, that really horrifying stretch of the book, I kept flashing on the fact that Lao-Tzu was Chinese and so was Confucius. And China has an *ancient* and *awesome* spiritual heritage. And if they behave that way in Tibet, you know, I can't even think about what must have happened to you know spiritual people in China. But I wish you'd say something about it and tell what became of the spiritual leaders of China, and where do you think the spiritual energy of their country has gone? If it's latent or how much longer it can be kept down?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well generally, mentalities of Chinese people are very thorough, and there's no question of going half-heartedly. But once you decide to weave your brocade silk, you literally go to retreat until you finish the whole role, you accomplished what you've done. So result is becomes-- [GAP IN AUDIO] --go to retreat until you finish the whole role, you accomplished what you done. So result is becomes work of art, and very thorough and hundred percent, if not two hundred percent.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the similar situation happens in terms of philosophy and the spiritual people there as well -- extremely thorough. And in fact, they practiced the mahayanist idea of bodhisattva idea of sacrificing your life for benefit of other people. Carried out so extreme in the Chinese Buddhist tradition that when they take bodhisattva vow there are five candles perched on your skull, and you light them, you burn them down, until burns your skin, and when the-- until candle dies you sit and meditate. And it's sort of heroic approach of bodhisattva, thorough bodhisattva, hundred percent bodhisattva. And that kind of heroic path of Chinese mentality is, of course, transferred into Japan as well. But basically, that kind of mentality is always there. So, when somebody begin to get fascinated by, or reacting against, that thoroughness of the imperial rule, that you-- your thoroughness swing to the other extreme of the reactionist. And of course, the only furthest reactionist process to the imperial or capitalist domination is to become a communist and do it completely, thoroughly, and destroy everything which reminds of that past history. So it's a kind of spirituality in the sense of too much-- so much energy and so much thoroughness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2755.0,2964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, karma seems to be connected with an entity that suffers or enjoys karma. So he's talk-- you've talked about American karma, then you talk about individual karma. Is that-- individual karma, would that be the karma that is connected with the ego, assuming that it is the ego who takes body after body until there is no more ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, karma is associated with the birth of ego. That the first step of creating law of interdependent and the law of cause and effect. In order to have cause and effect, you have to have some ground to work on. If you going to sow a seed, you have to have ground to sow a seed. And that ground is based on dualistic notion of ego. So the-- in other word, you could say the plant of karma grows on the ground of ego. That ego makes possible to karma to maintain itself. And karma is not individual force or individual entity as such at all. But it's just the-- like the oxygen that permeates on Earth. It's the basic environment in which the possibilities of cause and effect develop. So when there's no ground of ego as such then karmic chain reaction begin to stop altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But then does-- but we couldn't say that America has an ego, is that true? Or does it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, America-- since America is made out of a lot of other people, individuals have their egos--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So it'd be the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --which builds national ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Ah, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's what happens with each country or world as a whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=2964.0,3092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So as more and more people work-- so sort of are on this path, and working toward the end of dissolving that, and that will [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That does help. Each person's contribution of-- each person's dissolving of ego affects [INAUDIBLE] national as well. Yes, there is less intensity. SPEAKER13: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3092.0,3121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: One other question. In looking for the ego, personally, I-- it-- so it seemed that the ego was the \"I\" thought and the objects that it took. So that, because I noticed that I-- that constantly that there's these voices inside of me that are saying, \"I am hungry,\" \"I'm late,\" \"I'm all kinds of things,\" and... which all seem to be lies. I mean, they all can't be true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You know, same subject-verb, but different object. Is that-- is the \"I\"-- is the ego different from the \"I\" thought and its objects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From the \"I\"...? SPEAKER12: The \"I\" thought.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, ego is that which makes extra implication on \"me\" and \"myself\" as much more solid than just being \"me\" as a simple me. In other word, if person who transcend ego could still refer to himself as me, but there's not implication behind, heavy implication at all, because it doesn't have to maintain itself. You see, in a sense, that even if \"me\" suffer and may got extreme pain, but as far as ego is concerned, that's tremendous help to maintain itself, to make sure that \"I\" actually is pain-- \"I\" actually got through pain, \"I\" suffer, which reassures that there is such thing as \"I\" who suffers. Which tend to help all the time. So there is the implication of \"me\" is the ego, rather than \"I\" as just concept alone. Because concept without-- concept is being label, and without object to put on becomes just purely word and that doesn't become hangup at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3121.0,3265.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, isn't there some sort of feeling of courage, or something like that that's necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Idea of what? Courage?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For? For the ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: To look at, to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To look at ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: To look at yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To look?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: At yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't know what you mean “courage.” There seem to be different levels of courage in encouraging yourself. That there is the self-consciousness of ego, which also encourages to maintain yourself. And then there's the unoriginated insight, which also has fearless, sharp precision, also which sees yourself. But somehow the directions of those two are seem to be different. The sharp precision of the insight doesn't look in necessarily, it looks all over, in and out, simultaneously. And the courage of watcher, or the ego's self-consciousness, only looks inward rather than looking everywhere simultaneously, because you have a very narrow vision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3265.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: During your escape from Tibet, the figure of the bursar was fascinating, because he was such a-- well, he was always at you, and it seemed like you received a great deal of aggression from him. And I wondered if the experience of having to deal with his nitpicking and his sense of priorities, which were very different from yours, was actually helpful to you in keeping your [INAUDIBLE]. Were you able to be-- do you think his presence was important in you discovering or having something to be off against in choosing the right way? And by the way, where is he? Is he now in India?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He died in India, out of tuberculosis. Mhmm. I think he has become sort of extension of my guru, in the sense that-- and also inspires a great deal when he pushes the other direction, and you begin to pull the other direction at the same time. [laughter; laughs] And he actually admit that before his death, and we had very beautiful talk. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So it made your decisions easier then did it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It made your decisions easier?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In a sense, you could just go opposite of his way-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Not always. I mean, there is lot of experience in him always, so one have to question first whether that's the experience talk or whether that's just his simpleminded or whatever it's called. [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3359.0,3476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, how important is the language of speech that we use? We-- like you were saying something about coming back to [INAUDIBLE] guru. But I have a feeling that we use-- that sometimes we use a lot of slang. I feel like things are very watered down, energy [INAUDIBLE] are very watered down by the use of-- American use of language and speech. Can you say something about the... importance or non-importance [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that that's also important because the language as a whole is usually only language is abstract sound. There's no meaning behind it, actually language as it is. It's mantra. But we tend to put implications behind it, which makes the abstract into concrete. It means a great deal by putting a concept and ideas on it. But at the same time again, that I suppose you could say the use of slang and idioms are the product of frustration. That you find that old existing expressions become meaningless, and you can't express another way, so it's kind of expression of frustration. Like what happened in Tibet, for instance, and people recite mantras. At the beginning, they recite 100,000 mantras of Vajrasattva for instance. They start very slowly, very pious way, very contemplatively, and when they are sort of one quarters way from it, then they begin to recite very fast, extremely fast, and almost whole sound becomes just one hum. That you hardly say word-- you can't say word, but you just think the word. And it's kind of losing the sacredness of it. It seems that language is also expression of space at the same time. That you can't just speak language or become completely understandable without punctuations. So language is another way of expressing space, making space more sacred, or sense of communication. It is sort of mantra process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Yeah, well, like you said the mantra sort of lost its sacredness and it became a [INAUDIBLE]. It-- that's sort of like what we’re doing in [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's-- I think it's more of the become impatience of the space, rather than the misuse of the language itself. That you don't want to allow space, therefore trying to fill all the space by putting something in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3476.0,3669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I recently went to see a Black play that had to do with the revolution of the Black people in this country. And in it a woman said at one point, \"We know who we are, and we know where we're going.\" And she was very convincing. Like I really felt that, not only from her but from a lot of people there in the intermission that I watched and talked to about the Black people in this country. There is this tremendous sense of self-confidence and determination that you don't see a lot of times with other people in this country. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the Black revolution and about the karma of the Black people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that that particular area is also related with a general pattern of American progress. But it seems they become victim of aggression because the-- so much aggression has been imposed on them, and their aggression had to be inserted in. That in other word, saying like, \"I also have aggression, not only you. And this is my aggression.\" And that particular kind of imposed aggression or aggression that be put on you is the process of karmic cause and effect or interdependent process which happened. I think within that aggression there's a tremendous sense of happiness at the same time. And at the same time, there's a tremendous energy that evolved with the Black people. And in fact, that I suppose one could say that America cannot exist-- American culture cannot exist without Black people and their energy and their happiness, their excitement, which is kind of the opposite of the aggression somehow. That lot of people come through that excitement from the frustration and anger, produces beautiful music and produces beautiful energy, and the activator forces. So it seems to be they sort of act as the wings for the American karma in all sorts of levels. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530#t=3669.0,3851.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174113/file/313530/transcript/95065/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, what-- when I'm listening to you, often I gain a great of intellectual understanding of... like many formerly complicated concepts to me. To that extent, you know, I feel that I have gained some sort of knowledge. But, at the same time, I experience a frustration, because in my practice I'm not experiencing that same kind of depth. And it tends to create a sort of a gap between the intellectual understanding and direct experience. Could you say something about that? What is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose that's largely based on sort of too much hunger to learn something. And only way to strive is don't imply intellectual-- or implement to trying to collect as much as possible. And having collected so much that one doesn't try to relate to individuality or intuitive levels. And some way or other that the words seem to be comprehensive and sensible in terms of ideas, in terms of concepts, but in terms of personal experience, that becomes like sieve. And the way to relate with that, it seems to be, only to sort of space out one situation to other situation, more and more. So that it is possible that we could say that people attend talks here probably couldn't make head or tail of it, but they just hear the words. And it is quite possible, some stage, when there's enough space, enough room in their life situation, that things they didn't understand or the words they didn't understand comes back to them as sort of quotation in appropriate times. 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