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Patience related to bodhisattva's desire to work with sentient beings instead of attaining enlightenment. This results in giving up personal territory and realization of the freedom of no man's land. In contrast to the blind patience of waiting and suffering, transcendental patience is calm, skillful action when necessary with an intelligence and sensitivity to the environment. Instead of slowing down, it is efficient action out of natural directness. Bodhisattva points out neuroses and deals with situations patiently.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 6: The Open Way: Patience\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJun 06 2020 to Jan 28 2024 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Julia McKaig Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Lodro Sangpo Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOn the third bhumi, luminous (prabhakari in Sanskrit), involving the patience (kshanti) paramita. Patience related to bodhisattva's desire to work with sentient beings instead of attaining enlightenment. This results in giving up personal territory and realization of the freedom of no man's land. In contrast to the blind patience of waiting and suffering, transcendental patience is calm, skillful action when necessary with an intelligence and sensitivity to the environment. Instead of slowing down, it is efficient action out of natural directness. Bodhisattva points out neuroses and deals with situations patiently.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/685/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706553847","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706553830_19720807VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4097.30612,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/685/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706553847","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/685/original/1706553830_19720807VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1706553832","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4097.30612,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720807VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720807VCTR1 - Public Seminar  - RMDC - The Ten Bhumis - Talk 5]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Ten Bhumis, held at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in Colorado. This will be talk number five, August 7th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Ten Bhumis held in Livermore, Colorado in August, 1972. This will be talk number five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ladies and gentlemen, tonight we are going to discuss about patience. [Laughs; laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=30.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Talking about patience, we have to pick up something that we discussed already, idea of generosity, a long time ago -- which was last night. It seemed that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=57.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Something I would like to point out, on the whole, the idea of a bodhisattva's paths, or the ten stages, attainment of enlightenment and so forth. That all these stages are purely relating with certain landmarks, rather than that like celebrating your birthday, or graduation from one level to another level in your college. And quite equally that you don't get any papers, that you graduated from the first bhumi to the next bhumi. Or for that matter that attainment of buddhahood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=76.0,135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole process would be regarded as slow growth process. First bhumi from that point of view may be said as very spectacular, extremely spectacular. Sudden explosion of joy, realizing that you could be generous, you could be open. In other word we could make definite statement about that. Again going accordance to the teachings, scriptures as be described. And beyond that level, up to the tenth bhumi, that whole thing becomes a gradual process; in other word, you have second bhumi, you have first bhumi. And the first bhumi develops in the peak point, and gradually evolves the suggestion of the next bhumi. And then you cross the border very gently, and you get to the beginning of the next bhumi of the second. And you evolve and you go on and so on. So whole thing that people saying, \"Can you tell me what bhumi I am, or what bhumi you are?\" somehow does not apply anymore this case. It had to very gentle, very general process. So that in fact, in other word that we cannot develop a course in becoming bodhisattva in the universities. That's out of the question. Or for that matter, make \"Bodhisattva Academy\" [laughter], or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=135.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Talking about the second bhumi this particular case, which comes from the first bhumi of joy. And reaching its process to second bhumi, or \"spotlessness.\" And to the third bhumi. The third bhumi is known as the bhumi of \"perpetual light,\" or \"developing luminosity,\" \"ojepa.\" \"Sa dangpo\", the first bhumi, is regarded as \"raptu gawa\". Second one is \"trima mepa\". Third one is \"ojepa.\" \"Ö\" means \"light, brilliance.\" \"Ö tu jepa\" is \"being in the light,\" \"act as though in the light,\" \"being in light,\" \"activated in the light.\" Which is connected with patience; that as bodhisattva goes through the generosity, as well as its morality and discipline, that bodhisattva purely relate with the actual five skandha level, no other trips, or psychic phenomena or whatever, as we discussed last night already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=258.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, the next process comes as patience. Patience is very interesting perspective of bodhisattva's way, as well as our own working base. Patience is particularly related with the idea of bodhisattva does not desire to be a buddha. But he rather work with sentient beings, in order to work with, in order to save them from their confusion. Patience this case also carries the sense of heroism that we discuss already. Heroism in the sense of you have nothing to lose. And also patience related with the meditative situation of the bodhisattva at the same time. Not only attitude of heroism alone. That meditative experience of bodhisattva's patience is... space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=388.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or in other word we could say it is question of territory. In the third bhumi, bodhisattvas deal with territory. There is no territory that is yours, or that is the other's. Territory become no man's land, as far as bodhisattva is concerned as himself; he is nobody as well as the territory is no man's land. Because he is no more-- not more seeking to attain enlightenment as personal gain of egohood, but he give up his territory. So *he* is the public park, common ground, no man's land. That's very interesting point, let's discuss about no man's land from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=486.0,553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have warfare, murderer, any illegal activities you would like to conduct, you can conduct on no man's land, it's a free ground. Because you are not subject to the laws and regulations, or that government or this government, this people, that people, who subjects-- who could subject to persecute you. In fact you can commit murder on no man's land. But you could still be a free bandit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=553.0,592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in case of bodhisattva's patience, he knows that everything's free in this case: patience is a free situation. But he does not go as far as to extremes of hidden neurosis as such, at all. He realizes this no man's land is a free land. That is why that there's sense of patience. Maybe we should discuss or look into it much more, the idea of the patience-- of patience, we are discussing about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=592.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Technically, \"patience\" or \"kshanti\" literally means \"forbearance.\" The sense of forbearance comes from no man's land, in this case of bodhisattva's approach. Forbearance, being patient, is another approach of timelessness. Timelessness equals to from that point of view, without obligation. \"Because it is now already three o'clock. I'm supposed to meet my friend at three o'clock.\" Time demands obligatory situations. In the case of bodhisattva, it is timeless. Not that to say that bodhisattva is out of the time; because of his timelessness bodhisattvas could be on the spot, as you would-- might expect. But still he could be late. [Laughter] Rather than being early, from that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=643.0,754.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sense of patience from that point of view is based on the idea of acknowledging pain as a working base, rather than suffering pain. Acknowledging pain, in other word, does not mean that bodhisattvas would sit hours and hours and hours. That he's to wait that his tongue is scooped out from his mouth. In bodhisattva's approach, it is not that kind of heroism, it's different; the heroism that we discussed already. If somebody's just about to scoop out your tongue, by demanding your bodhisattva act, and being patient and being-- going through the pain of scooping out of his tongue, bodhisattvas would strike that person, and defend himself, naturally, obviously. If he's awake, if he's in sanity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=754.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could say from that point of view, bodhisattva's approach to patience, or forbearance, not blind forbearance, not blind of patience. But patience to strike somebody, which is extraordinarily powerful thing at all, all of-- all-- very powerful thing. If somebody strike you really patiently, rather than blow or impulse, it's deathly, extraordinarily deathly. That a bodhisattva's power's unlimited, because he's patient. Nothing could shake him up, nothing could make him into frivolousness of any kind at all. That his patience is deliberate, and proper, and at the same time very calm; forbearance. It's that kind of patience that way we are talking about in bodhisattva's path. Relating with things as they are. Because things as they are, therefore there's nothing to be related-- nothing to be reacted to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=871.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non-reacting becomes super-reaction, of patience. But same time the patience contains some element of paranoia or intelligence, in the positive sense. That bodhisattvas learn how to feel the whole area, whole ground. Patience contain paranoia, positive sense; paranoia contains patience at the same time. But both are operating on no man's land, so bodhisattva could jump, spring out like the tiger. Because of his patience. Claws you, or teeth you, sit on you, suffocate you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=956.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another aspect of this patience of bodhisattva are-- is that of skillful quality, or almost we could say from tantric point of view bodhisattva's patience, is that he sees his approach is beyond conventionality, conventional morality, conventional piety. That he relate and he perceives, he sees things in a fresh situation; there's no idiot compassion's involved at all, none whatsoever. Because he's non-existent of idiot compassion, therefore he's not afraid of the relating with the skillful means of being patient. Whatever need to be subjugated, he subjugate them. Whatever need to be destroyed, he destroy them, whatever need to be invited, he invite them. The whole thing act out of patience, from that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1010.0,1092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In many cases that we been told, bodhisattva's idea or the conventional idea of patience as being very kind and wait, not reacting. \"Hold your temper down, hold your restless.\" Only way that we could control our patience in the conventional, materialistic society is if we are waiting for somebody. We smoke further ten cigarettes [laughter], and wait and wait, wait. Regard that as very virtuous thing because we wait, we be-- by the time we meet that person, it doesn't matter how many cigarettes we smoke, but we are cool and we are cordial, polite, diplomatic, whatever. When somebody says \"I'm sorry I'm late, I couldn't make the time,\" he says, \"Okay, everything's fine. In fact I'm enjoying myself in the scenery of this place [laughter], and I'm having good time and drinking [laughter]. And I'm having good chat with my friend who is already here, before you came. It's okay. [Laughter] Let's go to the next business; I'm glad you're here.\" But you really don't mean it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1092.0,1189.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If a clergy just about to perform his busi-- his ceremony and his clients doesn't show up, his clients doesn't show up [laughs; laughter], again it's the same thing. The spiritual \"I should get myself together,\" whatever. That kind of formula constantly goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1189.0,1237.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Patience from this point of view is basic sanity and basic intelligence, which never allows the poison of diplomacy or pretense any kind. But at the same time, accommodating. That's the bodhisattva's approach of patience. That is why it is referred as \"kshanti paramita.\" \"Transcendental patience.\" Reason why it *transcends*, opposed to ordinary painstaking or diplomatic patience, is because that it does not meet with the ordinary conventionality, as well as does not relate with the pure deception alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1237.0,1317.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Equally from that point of view, patience is not related with just purely slowing down, doing things very slow speed, slow space, alone at all. Patience brings -- from this point of view, of bodhisattva's approach -- sense of efficiency; things had achieved already, accomplished already or just about to accomplish, and on the process of accomplishment it becomes very direct and very natural. Even the speed of a bodhisattva from this point of view, or that he is impatient of that things hadn't achieved, as he would have expected in his process of working. He push further, he work further. That pushing further, working further, is also signs of patience, that he is using this situations of unaccomplishment or beyond-- or discrepance [sic] of relationship situation, whatever. That he regard it as a stepping-stone, he's patient relating with it, and there's no complaint involved at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1317.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Patient approach of bodhisattva's complain from that point of view. He just point out of facts of discrepance, in organization or secretarial duty or administrative duty or relating with the people, and social duty, whatever's may be. That he points out discrepance, or neurosis that the people involved are involved, but still it's not regard as complaint particularly, but it's regarded as purely pointing out of facts, as it is. And picks from *there* very patiently, next situation will be patient situation, and proceeds further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1411.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It would be rather dangerous to use such analogies, in the psychological materialism. \"How the Buddhists and their patience worked out, therefore our business venture could work that way.\" And somehow it doesn't work that way, unless the person is surrendered to the whole process of trodding on the path as basic process, that there's no situation of openness involved at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1462.0,1494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could stop there and discuss about... it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1494.0,1504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche? Does that mean-- your last comment, does that mean that like the other paramitas you were discussing that true patience in this sense could not be developed through practice but it would have to arise naturally? In other words, before you actually became a bodhisattva you couldn't have [UNCLEAR: any patience?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's out of practice as well. Because practice becomes a natural situation for bodhisattva, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1504.0,1546.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, I keep getting the image when you talk about this kind of patience, particularly in connection with skillful means, of perhaps an Aikido master waiting quietly. Is that analogy valid to the kind of combination of patience and skillful means that you've been talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aikido master could wait by perching, or by waiting, sitting on the ground. That's depends on what your criteria is. But basically, you are skillful already. In other word, you don't expect any further comments or further reassurance, to your state of being patience or skillful. But you are not expecting any clients to approve... Clients?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Clients?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Clients.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Client. Clients. To prove that you have a customer. In other word, it's being, but not expecting anything to acknowledge your being.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would that be then, in a sense being without the watcher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so, yeah. Watcher brings all kinds of chaos. And if there's no watcher, then you're fully being there, because you enjoy your activity, your bodhisattva action. And, in other word we cannot be-- we can't approach the path of heroism of bodhisattva, with the watcher. But the true heroism on the bodhisattva's path, and the true romantic approach to bodhisattva's gloriousness, whatever, can be only achieved by without a watcher. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1546.0,1701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, [INAUDIBLE] the bodhisattva's aim is to get rid of the watcher in his students, is that it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't simplify as much as that. That bodhisattva's approach is to relate with the watcher, finally the watcher becomes irrelevant. And watcher has no function to be occupied, or employed. So you don't pay watcher, that particular watcher a fee; if he can't-- if he doesn't get his fee, he just falls apart. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1701.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah. Rinpoche, I was kind of interested in your-- the idea of the bodhisattva having his tongue pulled out by this other guy. You said that there was a certain amount of power that the bodhisattva would have in responding to this guy's attack, whereas it was different than from the person that was just acting on impulse. I was wondering exactly what this power was. Because it would seem to me that there could a person much stronger than him and the bodhisattva could get rather smashed, [laughing; laughter] so to speak, or killed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva does not try to survive, but he takes pride in that he is already survive. In other words he doesn't try to struggle for survival situation, but he acknowledges survival situation, with the means of heroism. And bodhisattva pride, that he's already sane and he could handle situation. And from that point of view, that he can't get killed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It seems like he'd still get killed though if the other person is stronger than he is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Only person stronger than him, from that point of view... does not apply. Because the bodhisattva is not fighting for who is stronger, who's weaker. And bodhisattva's approach to life is not confrontation or contest, because there are no sense of contest, and therefore person who is involved with sense of contest get automatically defeated. That's best approach for Olympic Game. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1748.0,1909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is there any relationship in the way that you present the paramitas with the bhumi? Like the third bhumi is talked about tonight and you talk about patience tonight, is there any relationship, because of the way you present them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What relationship you are talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well I don't know if there is any relationship between them. And I wanted to know-- I'm asking if there is a relationship between them, and if there isn't, how do you choose to talk about, like, the third bhumi in the same night that you're talking about the kshanti paramita?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that *is* the kshanti paramita. [Somebody sneezes]\r\n\r\n\r\nThat bhumi is the bhumi of patience. [Laughs] Gesundheit. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1909.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What's the difference between spontaneity and impulse?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is there a difference between spontaneity and impulse?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You bet. [Laughter] Spontaneity is related with the experiencing the ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Experiencing what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The *ground*; earth. Impulse is related with the colors that hovers around the ground, rather than ground itself. Like taking example, if you are fascinated by certain flowers.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Daisy? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Daisy!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, say-- let's say daisy. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Daisy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or sunflower, which is more lucrative. Fascinated by it. You are approaching it from eye-level situation, opposed to your foot-level situation. If you want to have such flower on your garden, you can't just purely appreciate it and plant it in your garden, but you have to go and buy the seeds and plant it on your garden. You have to bend down and you have to dig it, dig a ditch or whatever, and put manures over it. The only other way to achieve such perfection is just go to supermarket and buy plastic flowers. [Laughter] And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: How can you buy a plastic tit? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Plastic what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I said how can you find a-- buy a plastic tit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: A plastic tit? [Laughter] But problem is that you can't buy a plastic mother. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Dog barks; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1974.0,2152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It seems like patience implies things aren't like you want them, you know, so you have patience or forbearance. So if you're seeing things as they are, is it really patience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely, I mean that's one of the point that I was making, is patience in other word, saying the conventional morality, of \"be patient,\" \"let things get aged.\" The moment when you are ready to consume them, you have it. That kind of approach is a waiting situation. But if you are completely open, and completely relating with things as they are, and if you're providing no man's land ground, as far as patience is concerned, everything's fresh. Patience does not mean waiting to something to happen, from that point at all. It's patience is appreciation of things, in this neutral ground, in this no man's land. In other word, patience is unconditioned attitude of things, rather than waiting, you know, delaying things at all. Things could be delayed but they are still functions in unconditional situation, or things could be earlier from unconditional situation. But basic idea of patience from this point is providing unconditioned ground; whatever blossoms from that unconditioned ground is the product of patience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Is patience is something that happened already--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shhhh. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2152.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You said the night that you spoke about the first bhumi that when the bodhisattva cut through the karmic force or karmic patterns, he never completely cut through say this watching the action of cutting through. So, up until the tenth bhumi, the watcher was present, because he was seeing his bodhisattva actions. And just now you said there was no watcher for the bodhisattva.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, no watcher and from that sense is-- in other word no dogma. But that \"no watcher\" brings still some sense of watcher, constantly, until bodhisattva reach of the seventh bhumi. There will be a subtle watcher. But that watcher does not apply in terms of crudeness of \"this and that,\" give and take, because bodhisattva is not involved with warfare from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is that what self-creativeness means?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you like to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2283.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, you made a remark that to enter a contest is to ensure defeat. But if one is to transcend contest, is there an essential element of faith that has to be achieved, to have this space, to have a different attitude toward this kind of thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because contest not-- *beyond* contest does not involve our sense of publicity, sense of audience anymore. And so therefore there's no ambition. In other word, sense of carelessness of somewhat, from bodhisattva's approach. That if he lost, let be lost, let lose. If you gain, so what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In other words there's no fear of destruction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all. And, for the very fact that bodhisattva does not expect any medal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2372.0,2452.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, it seems that the pain of withdrawing from the situation, or entering into a situation, at times is very worthwhile. Could you talk about that a bit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You just said it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What can I say? It's worthwhile.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It's worthwhile.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's worth pursuing, for the very fact that you have nothing to lose in fact; fundamentally there is nothing to lose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You might--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2452.0,2505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Could you say something more about the positive side of paranoia? [Laughter] You mentioned that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very good. I'm glad you asked that question. The pragmatic aspect of paranoia, and the bodhisattva's path, is very important at this point; functional paranoia, usefulness of paranoia. Maybe the word \"paranoia\" is somewhat overused, and it tend to become to the level of psychologist talks about that if you are a freak or mad, that you are paranoia or schizophrenic or whatever, that you fit in those patterns. And it seems that we have to resurrect that idea of a sense of paranoia, in the psychologist talks about of psychologically fucked up. But paranoia is a very powerful and extremely intelligence point. In fact, you could say that idea of Buddhism altogether, and Buddha's mentality, his psychology is involved with the paranoia, is dharma of paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Say that again? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: First four noble truths: pain, origin of pain, path. First statement came from pain. Pain of psychological neurosis is a source of suffering. And that's the highest -- in fact it is referred as the *truth* of the suffering. And that's the only that we could make highly spiritually paranoid remark that one can ever make. Spiritual discovery is pain, to start with, is pain: the \"satya\", the truth; the first stepping-stone of the truth contains pain. And then origin of the pain and goal and the path, are also related with the criteria of the pain, at the same time. Extremely outrageous, but extremely powerful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo from that approach, I would like to apologize those who believe love and light [laughter], in the audience. \"All the answers are going to be good and light, and we are going to step towards the light, we're going to rainbow ladders descended like they from the helicopter.\" [Laughter] And from that point Buddha's approach is completely anti-Romanticism of spirituality. And approach to paranoia is extremely powerful, *extremely* powerful. In other word, we could say that without paranoia there cannot be existence of spirituality *at all*. No buddhahood, no enlightenment, no nirvana, without paranoia. Unless you're paranoid there's no hope. [Laughter] It's fantastically powerful remark. And it's extremely literal one. In other word, you could say it's simple-minded of course, if you like to say that. It is so, it's extremely simple-minded one. Because no eternity is given, by saying that \"this world that you suffer is-- doesn't matter, forget it, there's a better world for you. Which is pleasurable world. And you could get from the pleasurable world, and forget and let us ignore the whole thing, as a bad job, --\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Of course!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and get to the better path.\" And that problem becomes very eminent. And it's a really unrealistic problem. And if we don't approach our negative situations, about things as they are in terms of fucked-up situations, psychologically rot down. If you don't acknowledge those situations, that there's no way of stepping out of it at all. It's a very bold approach. Some people who are involved with spiritual materialistic love and light process would say that, say, \"Invite death of the universe. Much more powerful than atomic bomb.\" They could refer it as \"spiritual atomic bomb.\" But still it is a bomb of some kind, and it is already manufactured and affected in the human situation, that everybody founded out, that life contains distrust and misery, confusion, bewilderment in any case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2505.0,2902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, your use of the word \"paranoia\" is a little bit unclear to me. Because I think there is a difference between a statement of pain, and an unreasonable and terroristic expectation of further pain from every corner. And it seems that this paranoia is, or a rather empty and perhaps stupid nineteenth century convention, where there is a paranoid and there is a psychiatrist. If Buddha was a paranoid, who was the psychiatrist?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Then how [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He was just simple paranoid person. [Laughter] He wasn't even Buddhist. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: [INAUDIBLE] is paranoia--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The whole approach of paranoia from that sense, is I think very powerful to bring idea of paranoia to our twentieth century language, whatever you refer it as, eighteenth century [laughing], whatever, or seventeenth century. [Laughter] You can't make whole thing is out-of-date; pain is not out of date *at all*. Everybody has pain; it's up to date, all the time. [Laughter] I had pain today; I thought I had my stomach run. It's very up-to-date one. And I expected-- I acknowledged it, and it was very literal one. And I don't expect any surgery either, and how could relate with this up-to-dateness of my stomach running. And what's the best way to wipe my bottom? [Laughter] Which does not involve any philosophy [laughter] at all; it's very literal one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2902.0,3043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well, I never asked, but it seems to me, in some of the discussions, that there is this-- you know there is this whole attitude is, \"Everything is pain, you know, life is [loud groan from audience; laughter] everything is terrible, pain. [Laughter] You know, everything aches and pains.\" And it seems to me that's sort of like going to the-- I mean I think everybody here has had some good times too. [Laughter] I mean I think it's denying--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Where? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. I mean in other word that, finding the path, that you are stepping on the path of the first bhumi that we discussing, rejoice situation, is in fact celebration, that you discovered path is a painful situation. And path is pain. And that we could relate with the pain. Tremendous conquering situation, that the pain does not become pain*ful*. Pain become pain as it is, but we could transmute that pain into inspiration. That's the celebration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3043.0,3138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is there any way to fully relate to pain, if you have the notion of own body at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your body?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: You were talking about territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well body is obviously a source of pain, and a landmark of the pain at the same time. It-- because we have body, therefore we have pain. And because we have body therefore we could become Buddha. And, in other word the suicide approach is not towards enlightenment. But acceptance of the body is towards enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Well it sounded like when you're talking about patience that the reason the bodhisattva could accept pain, is that he didn't have the notion of territory, at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could have body without territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: But you have the notion of one's own body, \"this is *my* body, [UNCLEAR: that's feeling this pain?]\" And still relate to pain fully.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Make sure to have body without \"my body,\" at the same time. This might be asking a bit too much, up to the level of cosmic whore. [Laughter; laughs] But still, the sense of body is very important. And because there is some focal point of sanity is involved, therefore body could accommodate your environment, as well as invite other people's environment at the same time, the same ground. It takes certain satori so to speak, sudden flash, sudden pinpoint. There is that \"something\" -- we don't have to name it. And because of that there is also environment as well, which is not particularly yours or theirs -- it's no man's land. Which we could accommodate whole world, whole solar system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3138.0,3297.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Rinpoche, is there still paranoia when there's no watcher? After there's no watcher, is paranoia still functioning, at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm afraid so, yeah. Because paranoia is a source in intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: But it no longer has an element of fear, or is just [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no, but element of some logical situations -- diplomacy or whatever, you know, which is also paranoia. But there is always some kind of territory is involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3297.0,3334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Do you mean by paranoia recognizing negativity as it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. If I may say so. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3334.0,3349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Having gazed on these innumerable companies of bodhisattvas and thangkas and so forth, and having always attributed them, well, to the celestial company, I'm reeling after what you talk about tonight. I'm just wondering whether they are not perhaps armed and dangerous. [Laughter] Particularly concerned whether there is what that the bodhisattvas had a limit to their patience, what will [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The reason why-- you see, the reason why that they have no limitation in themselves. That's why they don't have to limitation of the others.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Well, but it seems to me that the quality of turning the other cheek as in Christianity seems to be quite absence-- absent from the bodhisattva presence. Is that correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Well I feel that they are rather dynamic and that there *is* an end to their patience, and all of the sudden they will take action.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I'm sure that any dogma is involved like church, that they let you go certain level, and then they would stop you going beyond that. In the case of bodhisattva's approach, there's no limit -- you can go *as far as you can*. Outerspace, beyond your own solar system, whatever. And dharmadhatu, dharmakaya, whatever, you can go beyond, beyond *of* the beyond. And then you find yourself coming back, because there's no reference point, if you go beyond it. And your patience is there already, when you come back from without reference point. Such odyssey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3349.0,3489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: To clarify what you said about paranoia for myself, I'll try. It seems the way I experience what I call paranoia is fear of pain. And are you saying that the intelligent aspect of that is that it points at the pain? That if the confused element is cut through, the pain is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say \"cut through\" in terms of you be saved by the pain, through the pain as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: But one intelligent aspect of paranoia is...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is seeing things as they are, literally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Can you have paranoia without the fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Learn to switch your light, in your house, whatever. That kind of approach is very simple and literal. That you are not working with a particular defense mechanism at all, it would be just natural situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3489.0,3592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rinpoche, do you mean that paranoia leads us to the source of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Paranoia leads to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Leads us to find the source of pain? Is that it's value?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Paranoia is both intelligence way of relating with the pain, which is out of the pain, as well as paranoia is getting into the pain, which is samsaric imprisonment, at the same time. 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If he still has this concept of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's only pain, and seeing things as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: No choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3631.0,3692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Would you say that perhaps the bodhisattva suffers less pain than [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Bodhisattva's pain is more cosmic pain. Cosmic pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: The reason I asked you that was because he's trying to give up all these things that you've been talking about clear through here for me, that other human beings have. By the time he's done that, you ought to be in a sort of a static position of some kind, where [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva experience more impressive pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well he can go back, and go into the dharmakaya or something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No he can't. It's against his vows. He had to remain with-- he had to stick with his pain. His pain is very powerful and irritating, oppressive, very powerful one.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well, I thought you said he could go-- didn't you say that he'd go-- either go to into the dharmakaya, or wherever he wanted to go? And he'd always have to come back here for a reference point. But by the time he's up there [INAUDIBLE WORDS]-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not as comfortable as that at all. It's very painful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3692.0,3780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Rinpoche, I always thought that originated from ego, and I thought the bodhisattva loses ego and [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He doesn't lose his ego completely, but he had to relate with that because that's why he's bodhisattva. And his ego is because there levels of bodhisattva is involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: So where does the pain originate from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ambition, to work with sentient beings, giving up of attainment of buddhahood, which is also ambition, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Where does the third noble truth of cessation of pain come in then? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3780.0,3841.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64032/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to stop at this point, if I may say so. Tomorrow we having a nyinthun, of all day practice of meditation. And I would like to invite everyone at least experience that whole day of vacancy, doing something but nothing. Which is very interesting one. Particularly if people feel that they would like to know applications and inspirations of this particular seminar, and the whole trip that involved, with the philosophical approach, whatever. That I would assure you that you cannot understand anything at all, none whatsoever, if you don't relate with yourselves in terms of physical discipline. This is one-- this is particular one area that I would like to state myself clearly, definitely is that without involving physical practice of anything, that there's no way out: intellectually, intuitively you can't get out of it. Or learn something out of it, either. The learning process takes place in the *being.* And being is following the Buddha's example; Buddha sat for six hours.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: On a rock.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On the rock. [Laughter] Was that Saint Peter? [Laughter] Saint Peter sat for six hours on the rock; Buddha sat on six *years* on the rock, maybe. Whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nHowever, that I would like to invite everybody in the community to please take part in our nyinthun, and please take part in it. With my invitation and invitation of the community members themselves. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also I would like to break the stronghold of intellect, which may become obstacle. That we should allow some sudden break -- sword of Manjushri. That we could purely relate with our sitting with our state of mind, rather than purely dogmatically, of philosophical whatever's may be. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3841.0,4097.30612"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720807VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=0.65,2.999"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on The Ten Bhumis,\nheld at the Rocky Mountain\nDharma Center in Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=4.34,8.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number five,\nAugust 7th, 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generosity,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=61.45,65.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a long time ago --\nwhich was last night.\nIt seemed that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=66.82,73.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Something I would like\nto point 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Does that mean--\nyour last comment,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1504.35,1509.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does that mean that\nlike the other paramitas","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1509.91,1515.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you were discussing\nthat true patience in this 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To prove\nthat you have a customer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1625.99,1630.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, it's being,\nbut not expecting anything\nto acknowledge your being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1632.88,1638.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4:\nWould that be then, in a sense\nbeing without the 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Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1985.72,1987.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Is there a difference\nbetween spontaneity and impulse?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=1987.03,1989.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You 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No buddhahood,\nno enlightenment,\nno nirvana, without paranoia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2754.48,2759.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unless you're paranoid\nthere's no hope.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=2762.09,2767.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's fantastically\npowerful 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If I may say so.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3339.85,3348.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER25: Having gazed on these\ninnumerable companies\nof bodhisattvas","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3349.38,3353.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and thangkas and so forth,\nand having always\nattributed 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No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3379.27,3380.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nAbsolutely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3380.6,3381.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER25: Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3381.84,3383.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThe reason why--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685#t=3384.37,3385.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121544/file/226685/transcript/64033/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you see, the reason\nwhy that they have\nno limitation in 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