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Describes common misunderstandings about the spiritual path. That it is not about power and pleasure, a credentials-oriented approach; but buddhadharma without credentials is relating with simple truth, without looking outside oneself. Necessity of seeing how we construct ego to reinforce sense of self, and then undo it in order to experience genuine awakening. Need for discipline connecting us with reality. Role of the teacher is not to introduce you to colorful ceremonies, but to show how to undo ego and connect with the earth. In Q\u0026amp;A: how to work with anger; how to use humor to dismantle ego.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["SRCBOOK: Buddhadharma Without Credentials"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSRCBOOK: BUDDHADHARMA WITHOUT CREDENTIALS (out-of-print): The Search for Credentials\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 23 2020 to May 30 2020 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eTrungpa Rinpoche affirms his commitment to bringing the buddhadharma to America. Describes common misunderstandings about the spiritual path. That it is not about power and pleasure, a credentials-oriented approach; but buddhadharma without credentials is relating with simple truth, without looking outside oneself. Necessity of seeing how we construct ego to reinforce sense of self, and then undo it in order to experience genuine awakening. Need for discipline connecting us with reality. Role of the teacher is not to introduce you to colorful ceremonies, but to show how to undo ego and connect with the earth. In Q\u0026amp;A: how to work with anger; how to use humor to dismantle ego.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Buddhadharma Without Credentials held in New York City, New York, at 224 Centre Street loft. This is talk number one, March 9th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be talk number one, of the seminar Buddhadharma Without Credentials, given in New York City by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, on March 9th, 1973. This will be talk number one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=0.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'd like to welcome everyone take part in this seminar. And also I hope you'll be able to take part in the nyinthun that will end the seminar, with final talk, happens on the Sunday. And I would like to welcome everybody to take part in that, to complete this seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=35.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As you know, subject we are going to discuss at this particular seminar is \"Buddhadharma Without Credentials.\" Is that correct? [Laughter] It's publicized, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=74.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"About three years since I've been in this country, I have been saying the same thing. Repeating again, again, again and again, trying to make more emphasis on what needs to be developed, what dangers to look for in spiritual path.\r\n\r\n\r\nCan you hear me on the back? Yeah?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=100.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel personally committed in teaching, needless to say; that's my life, that's my karma. And I also feel-- because of that situation I also feel extremely committed to relate with the people in this continent. That there is a tremendous need and inspiration towards spiritual path has developed in North America, generally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=149.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel that I have a choice-- I've felt that I have choice, I had a choice. Of presenting the teaching in the popular manner. Sort of making it Madison Avenue style; all the gimmicks, and all the highlights, all the promises. *Or* else presenting the teaching faithfully, realistically. And it is possible that if I chose the first style, obviously you collect more people, more money, and more glamor. It's like sponsoring extraordinary freak show [laughing], which is not particularly bad idea. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=202.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The second approach, of presenting faithfully, is possibly boring, painful, not particularly glamorous. But if I view it for the benefit of the future generations to come, that since this seem to be destined karmic flow, that Buddhism is obviously going to come to America, and America going to become home of Buddhism, sooner or later. That if we are going to be the instrumental in this, that disregarding the advertisements aspect of it, and one could work it on a much more fundamental and basic, honest level, which have developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=296.0,373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I have been presenting the idea of spiritual materialism, which is one of the basic core of understanding religion, spirituality, and deception, charlatanism. Some kind of guiding line seem to be necessary. So we trying to work on that. And a lot of students here from Dharmadatu at large, and some from Tail of the Tiger, have been working on that idea, of basically, \"What is a credential? What is practice? If I practice more would I get a credentials so that you-- I would become entitled as 'Buddha', end of my name?\" [Laughter; laughs] \"Maybe, at least I could have 'Arhat' end of my name or 'Bodhisattva'.\" [Laughter] \"Jack Parsons, the Bodhisattva.\" [Laughter] \"Daniel Smith, the Arhat.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=373.0,499.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The obvious answer is the spiritual path is not divided in terms of grades, and it is not divided in terms of how smart you are, and how intelligent you are. So therefore there's no credentials. That seem to be the starting point. In *fact* you *can* create credentials; still sort of legitimate according to the Buddhist tradition. You can create credentials; it has been done so in the past. But it seems that our particular situation involved with America, that presenting credentials becomes self-destructive, rather than source of inspiration at *all*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=499.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, one have to change the attitude, and also have to reform the traditional patterns that had developed already in the East. *Were* up-to-date, in *certain* situations, certain time of the age. But twentieth century situation is concerned, that it is out-of-date. Presenting credentials doesn't become Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=572.0,614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the only answer is the Buddhadharma without credentials. I prefer to call it “Buddhadharma” rather than “Buddha-ism.” \"Dharma\" means \"truth\", or \"reality\", \"discipline.\" And \"Buddha\" is \"awakened one,\" “unconfused one,” “awakened one”. So \"Buddhadharma without credential\" is awakened state, of mind experiencing the simple truth, without outsider’s help. Without acknowledgment from outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=614.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which leads to next situation, in which, if we get into details. But to begin with we have to discuss the negativities of the credentials. What will happen supposing if you are near to-- next to the Buddha, in terms of hierarchical setup? And you *become* one, actually you *do* practice, you work hard, you meditate all the time, you have all the metaphysical understandings of Buddhism, you become superstar amongst your students [laughter], your fellow brothers, sisters who's studying, taking part together; an ideal person to be wished to be one. And you *are* one of them and you *deserve*, you will say, that he should be called something other than just a fellow student. Supposing there are ideal person had developed, and then if we give him or her a credential: \"The Daughter of Buddhism in America\", or \"the Son of Buddhism in America\" or \"The Prince\" or \"The Princess [laughter] of Buddhism in America\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=689.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, something unkind about that. Once you begin to do that, the gradual process of spiritual development is also being ignored. And more than that, the Buddhadharma is regarded as purely goal-oriented. There's no human relationship *at all*; it is purely organizational thing. That when you feel someone is good you should regard them as good and hero. Which breeds a further spiritual materialism. That that person become a greater Buddhist because that person has achieved all the things what should be achieved. And we call the tremendous achievement person is \"Prince\", \"Princess\" of Buddhism. It's like worshiping the golden calf. Whole thing is regress, rather than developing into a non-ego situation, egoless situation. That egoless ego had to developed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=787.0,874.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, buddhadharma become another spiritual materialism -- in fact a much tougher one. You can still argue, \"I have achieved egolessness; you have no right to question my achievement. I have achieved egoless, so don't question me. I am what I am.\" Or you might say, \"I am not, I am not not.\" [laughter]. Which brings horrific-- believing in egolessness, makes *greater* ego from that point of view, of heroism. Something extraordinary person, who had attained, achieved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=874.0,931.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, fundamentally speaking, that complete buddhadharma, true buddhadharma practitioners, do not need credentials; *should* not need the credentials. For that matter, any form of ordination is questionable, at this point. Initiation is questionable at this point. Person could jump into such situation very easily: highly inspired, not-- even not thinking about his own or her own ego, just, \"Wow! I could be accepted into an initiation circle; what a privileged situation that I'm in. This is unique situation; let's go and do it!\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=931.0,999.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you do it, you get in it and your friends comes to say, \"What happened?\" \"Well, I took part in that, and now I suppose I've become among the initiates.\" But actually [laughs], nothing happened; absolutely not. The reason why nothing happened is because the person hadn't gone through any disciplines, at all -- except trying to kill a few hours taking part in that particular ceremony. Which is not discipline at all; it is a constant surprising and fascinating, inquisitive situation to watch. All the ceremonies that's happening, which would be entertaining you. It's like regarding what-- or taking part in this certain theater is your credential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=999.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unfortunately a lot of the Eastern teachers have developed idiot compassion towards Americans. [Laughter] \"They came a long way; they have a different cultural background. And they are confused; now they are coming to me to wanting to clarify their confusion. And they abandoned their luxury. They abandoned their wealth. And they are desperate. And therefore there must be something in it, so therefore let them include in the initiation circle.\" Not knowing that their new involvement into new situation, is more of entertainment for them than being in an apartment house in Manhattan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1063.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That has been always a problem, particularly amongst Eastern teachers -- idiot compassion. I wouldn't say that we should develop-- specially develop torture chambers for Americans. [Laughter; laughs] But, at the same time, we don't have to regard them as extraordinary human beings particularly at all. They are as much confused as Tibetans or the Indians; much more so, but still they're confused. [laughter] They're still human beings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1138.0,1194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we have a lot of problems about credentials, in that point. In fact, in order to instigate buddhadharma without credential practice, in order to execute such situation, the first step seems to be is in the role of teacher. The gurus, the leaders, have to develop intelligent compassion; absence of idiot compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1194.0,1249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also, from the point of view of students, that students have to develop intelligent devotion, rather than blind faith, or idiot faith, as well. As far as students are concerned, that they should develop extraordinarily critical, cynical approach, to the spirituality as a whole, to begin with. That spirituality is based on ego-orientation, from the point of view of simple-minded approach. Another form of making a profit-orientation or comfort-orientation, in any case. As long as that approach last, becomes prominent, then spiritual search is also under question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1249.0,1325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seeking for power. Control, pleasure. Highest form of pleasure you can get is spiritual pleasure. And highest of power you can get is spiritual power. Working on the super-mind, or the cosmic energy. One can get certain self-deceptive inclined, extraordinary powers, if we work hard on our ego. That ego had to be educated in higher thinking: \"Don't concern about worldly matters, but concern about spirituality. How glorious it will be, for you. Raise your ego. Think bigger, think greater. Extend your consciousness into the outer space.\" [Laughs] \"Raise yourself. Raise, come on, raise, raise.\" Then you find yourself become the king of the universe. You raise your *self*-consciousness. Not only preserving yourself as this body alone, but you are possessing the rest of the universe. That you have-- you could achieve, actually, the lord-of-the-universe-hood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1325.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One can work up to such level; it is possible. And that is what's called spiritual materialism. That is working to the buddhadharma *with* credential. The credential become-- or the achievement become important part. Once you have achieved the cosmic power, ultimate situation, then you have to maintain yourself, to keep up your territory. And if any threat involved, that's be regarded as a tremendous threat. And you have to keep up constantly all kinds of areas of irritations, that your kingdom might be threatened, your pleasure, and ultimate power might be threatened. And you are so much concerned with *your* power and your pleasure, your ego-hood, that you become high in your equanimity of constant meditative state, of self, ego. Which is a tremendous practice, which is not pushed into situation, but you developed by your desire. So desire become meditation practice. Constant samadhi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1432.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your devotees, your followers find you extraordinarily impressive person. You can't get away with them even one little move. He or she has complete eye on *everything* that goes on. And if you begin to make a slight move, of mistake to keep up *his* kingdom, *his* madness, he see you, she see you. And if you disobey you'll be killed, executed. You used to make fun of, early on your spiritual search, before you became ego-maniac, you used to make fun of-- you used to make fun of Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin. You think they are crazy and funny, but now you begin to believe in them. [Laughter] You have some kind of sense of sympathy with their approach. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1532.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've become stranger to your friends -- old friends, old lovers. Including your wife or your family, your immediate friends. You become stranger to them. You are going into such self-existing awareness of something to keep up your image. Even to the-- to immediate people. You've become stranger to them. That you can only speak up for your language. And they have to tune in to your-- you, rather than you are tuning in to them. Even you become like absent-minded professor, that you can't entertain if you're tempted to do it, but then you get back to absorbed into your egohood. That people at the beginning admire you that you have attained some kind of spiritual level, of becoming a buddha or something. That person has really achieved some form of tremendous non-differential, some kind of equanimity, that he goes into his state, and even if you talk to him he can't hear you. [Laughter] And he is fantastic! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1601.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when he begin to strike you, when you begin to make mistakes, which concerned is his territory, that he become tremendously sharp and up-to-date, powerful. He'll cut you, through. Alternating between that absorption of vagueness, and the sharpness that kills you [laughter], is a fantastic achievement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1686.0,1720.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could say that is the buddhadharma *with* credential. In such case, person could be Buddhist master, or Hindu swami, or rabbi in Hasidic tradition, or, whatever. Could be anybody. Could be politician. Or could be chef in the kitchen. Any discipline breeds such creature. [Laughs] It's always possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1720.0,1773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems what we are discussing tonight is the ideal superstar that *could* get credentials, and still involve with some kind of high disciplines, or whatever. I think it would be worthwhile just discussing that, and thinking about that situation. And then we could have-- could go on with it tomorrow, the day after; discuss it further, how is *real*, without credential, could develop. But before we do that we have to have the ideal negative model of what would be if there was a person who possessed such credential, and still teaching the buddhadharma, or, any other dharma.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1773.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, actually when you're talking about the master of ego, you call it that, it reminded me of someone I used to know. It was a good description, but I don't quite understand what's happening here. It's, you know, this person has not got past his ego, instead he's somehow ultimately committed to it. But he has accomplished *something*. What is it that he *has* accomplished?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you see that's the point which would *impress* you. That person you automatically have doubt, to master of ego, or the ego-maniac person, whatever. That person is-- you begin to see a lot of holes, weaknesses in this person. But at the same, time you are so impressed by the disciplines that person has gone through, certain achievement that person has gone through. Which will keep you back. And that's the only point of reassurance that you have, beyond your doubts, which will keep you magnetized again and again *and* again. In fact you begin to realize you can't do that. And he or she did it. \r\n\r\n\r\nI think that's whole mastering and a kind of power, is not *really* discipline, because there was no challenge, fundamentally speaking. The challenge comes from giving up ego, being battered around it, losing your ground, realizing that you don't have-- you can't hold on to your identity of \"me and my-ness\". Then challenge comes, but such person didn't go through the challenge at all. Any little physical challenge, or any kind of irritations of challenging their patience, is no challenge for them, it's beautiful, because it's on the way to developing their ego. That you go through, constantly, all the time. That you begin to appreciate, you begin to develop some sort of hidden masochistic feelings involved, sadistic feelings involved. That you would like to torture yourself in order to get further. You know what you're going to get. \r\n\r\n\r\nReading stories of Hitler, that he had spent-- he'd become extraordinarily disciplined person. He spent night after night without falling asleep, go through the maps and documents, that how he could advance his plans further. That his fellow helpers become exhausted, tired, but he can go on with such energy.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So, you're saying that this discipline that they can summon is-- stems from some tremendous gratification they get--?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --when being able to think of themselves?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=1846.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You're also saying it’s real though.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The extraordinary abilities that they achieve through the discipline, whatever it is they use, is real skill. That it mani-- in a sense it manifests itself--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat it's a real skill. It's demonstrating, if you are not involved with the ego, your threshold of discipline become much less. Because you have nothing to gain, therefore you have to latch on to your fundamental inspiration. Which is much weaker. Whereas if people involved with the ego strive, their discipline become much more powerful, because it's real. But nevertheless, it's real discipline, of some kind of absorption-- distorted absorption.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is that the difference between sorcery and-- and prog-- real spiritual progress?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] I suppose so, yeah. I mean that's what we're talking about. Egomaniac is another word-- another form of black magic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2066.0,2142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there any alternative to going through the pain of feeling oneself trapped in such a game?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there any way, what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Possible to let go-- Is it possible to let go?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is, what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is it possible to let go, when one finds oneself trapped in such a game, or one feels oneself trapped in such a game, in such a power--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, that’s good, but that might provide with lot of pain, because you have to give up your chauvinism. Which might mean you have to really let yourself be really humiliated by your people around you. If you are willing to face that. It depends on how far you're gone. There is always possibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2142.0,2195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Aren't we still here basically involved in good and evil? I mean, if the ego that’s being developed, is this necessarily going to be an evil ego? I mean, couldn't the ego--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If an ego what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could the ego that's being developed here become a bene-- a beneficent ego? For example, I was momentarily reminded of some of the lives of some saints, you know, perhaps going through certain denials of themselves, in order to attain, you know, a great spirituality.  But isn't this again, you know, all these denials building up, an ego too? I mean why is this a denial of the ego or dissolution of an ego, whereas the other is, you know, a growth of an ego?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, deny, or surrendering ego, brings no reward, that you're constantly giving away your territory. With holding on to ego, is the opposite, that you don't give away your territory, but you're trying to constantly regain your territory, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2195.0,2286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Am I correct in assuming that, according to your lecture, the first lecture we heard this evening, is the creation of a shelter the beginning of ignorance? That, it's actually an instinctive territorial game, which is the basis of the ego, and that--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --the denial of this territorial game is actually the--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anti-ego.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --giving up of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. I mean that's the difference between spiritual materialism and true spirituality, precisely.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Then this is-- many animals exhibit you know, this kind of territorial war. I remember some article in LIFE [magazine] being-- the basis of war being the acquisition of territory.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, I mean there's-- you're getting into the realms of animal realms, of whatever. That whenever you're involved with any ego realm, your pursuit is to require-- acquire more territory, and trying to extend your area, with no sense of giving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2286.0,2365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems that most of us who consider ourselves, in terms of the world, to be fairly ordinary tend to secure our territory by various self-protective means; so that instead of somebody trying to assert ourselves, we have all kinds of very complicated way finding-- or saying to protect ourselves. And as we begin to practice, we might begin to give up our protection somewhat, and then we might become even more assertive, in some sense than we were before. But that the danger might increase as we go along? That seem to be the case?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The paranoia increases more because you are constantly losing your ground. Unless you are able to dance with it. And that had to be one of the only hope, is that make a-- develop a sense of humor. Whenever that you lose your territory, that you smile with it. [Laughter] It's like British politics. [Laughter] Each time the crown properties become smaller and smaller, in this empire. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2365.0,2447.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To refer to the grain of sand that you--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To refer to the grain of sand that  you mentioned earlier in the evening: now when that grain of sand becomes aware of other grains of sand, almost similar but not similar to it. That's the beginning of the development of the ego.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And that's where he's-- he or she -- you know I'll say, use the word \"he\" -- wants to create effect, an effect on the other like.  And he doesn't get the results, assuming he doesn't get the results that he expected from this other particle of sand. Then isn't that where he changes, and builds his ego from there on. Because he must try something else to attract this little particle of sand? And, so forth.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you see-- I mean, yeah that's true.  At the beginning you don't really get a sense of conquering territory, but at the beginning a sense of relating with the territory. And eventually that become your territory. So, I mean it's like extending your influence through your neighborhood. That first you just call your neighbor, contact, tell them, invite them, that you exist.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is it not like a building up and a breaking down? Because if this strategy didn't work, well you try some other trick, or whatever it is?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, yeah. Each time when you break up, you learn new trick. Because that previous was a failure, so therefore you be more trained all the time. How to--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: There's a striving [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--   \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, how to, you know, seduce more. How to try new way that not the-- not previous way was--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To influence--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, influence. You begin to get educated, from that sense. Yeah.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yes. Okay. I get it. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2447.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If you give up ground by giving up ego, the ground of-- in the competitive aspects of society, won't you weaken yourself in, let's say, in this society to an extent where as the result of your egolessness, you're crushed be a highly competitive society? And then you're possibly reduced to a point where you can't even study Buddhism. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I disagree. Probably you wanted me to disagree with what you said.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No, I just asked the question.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] When there is egoless approach, that evidently becomes very powerful one. Because the people always play cowboys and Indian game. When you fight, they're going to fight you back constantly. So this egoless game, if you call it a game, or giving up your territory, is become like a-- like judo game. By using other person's energy, they're using-- they're-- turning their energy back to them, rather than you're putting up any defense mechanism. Which then they find extraordinarily confusing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2584.0,2679.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is there a possibility that they could see through that confusion though?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Isn't there a possibility that maybe they can see through that confusion?   \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They have to give up lot of preconceptions. If they begin to do that, then they're going to do the same thing. So it seems okay. [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What about the skill involved  in the ego game? Doesn't that-- say for example you take a person that's very skilled in the ego game and somehow he manages to break through, into the non-ego situation. Does that skill he's acquired in the ego situation necessarily give him a certain adeptness, at skillful means in a non-ego situation?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what happens is that you just pick up the activities, the style of action. Without the philosophy behind it. So I suppose you will say that, you still employ some style. But fundamentally you don't. I mean that seem to be the point, that...   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How is skill, then, differ from style?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well style behind it, the implication of goal-orientation, and goal-less-ness, is different. But style might be the same. I mean, the style of confidence, and whenever there is need to be aggression, you apply your aggression. Whenever need to be invited, you apply your invitation, and such style is the same, still, I mean, having ordinary logic. You have to keep up with the ordinary logic in any case. But *behind* that is seem to be entirely different.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So in other words the-- you could also appear as an egomaniac?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could. But if person is sensitive enough to examine it, it wouldn't be the same, at all.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That is of course assuming that there's some kind of communication--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --behind it. Yeah.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean it's behind this whole thing is soft. In other words, behind whole thing's very tight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2679.0,2852.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm rather confused. The question is very hard for me to formulate, but it seems that life makes people very angry. And they turn a lot of the anger against themselves, they don't know what to do with it. And there's a kind of this masochism that you referred to.  And this-- when you have that as an important part of your ego, and so that you get into this thing of giving up the goals in the world, but still it's holding on somehow into the anger that's underneath. All that seems to me a particularly difficult situation, a particularly difficult trap that one gets into, because you think you're giving up more and more, but somehow it seems to be adding on to the repression, rather than to be freeing oneself. Is there some way [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean giving up ego as-- leads to repression?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah [INAUDIBLE WORDS] I think that in many cases it's like avoiding the-- it's like kidding yourself that you're giving up the things in the world that you anyhow can't get, because they're beyond your power to get them so that it's not *really* giving up, but some kind of extra-repression.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, unless you have some kind of sense of humor, of dancing with it, the whole thing becomes very serious matter. Even giving up your territory becomes very serious matter; it is goal orientation. There had to be some kind of humorous approach, of lightheartedness of some kind, fundamentally sane and lighthearted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2852.0,2980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I'm a bit confused about something. I agree with what you say about the games of the ego, but it seems that I've also noticed another danger, which is that people in some movements are so overwhelmed by their own foolishness or stupidity that they no sense of self, or no self-- self-respect, they feel completely helpless. And I just wonder if-- It's very tricky using words to talk about \"self\" and \"ego\". I don't know how you feel about that. But it seems that there should be a sense of self, which is-- do you understand what I'm talking about? That there has to be a balance between not giving in to the ego, yet at the same time some kind of--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know what you mean. That's precisely what I have to work on my students as well. A lot of people come up with their tremendous feeling of inadequacy. And they have dropped out of college, they try all the other tricks, and come out of it with nothing, and they feel belittled, they feel inadequate in their every directions. I think at that point, you don't have to build ego, or self as such. But only thing you have to built up is their relationship with earth. And some craftsmanship.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Some what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Craftsmanship. Craftsmanship.   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, I understand. So I was also going to say that perhaps-- \r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=2980.0,3095.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come back to earth, yeah, and, you know, make tea. [Laughter] Clean up house. Dig this garden. You don't have to say that, \"you have ego, you have a self, therefore you-- come on, pull up your socks.\" But, see what happens, you know, relate with the earth. And that seems to be entirely different approach than telling them they're okay, and that they should respect their self and ego, become self-respectable. But if they begin to work with it like, \"just light my fire in the stove.\" \"Let's put fire together, you know, let's build bonfire together.\" Or \"let's work something together.\" Any kind of task is-- which involved with communication, people's awareness of their positive, basic sanity could be raised. It's not so much of they need to be told then that they have ego, but I think they are more to the point they need to be told they *are* basically sane. Which is *entirely* different area.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: They're basically the same?  \r\n \r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Sane*.    \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Sane.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Rather than they have ego. But basically they are sane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3095.0,3177.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: As part of-- the question I asked was part of a bigger question which has puzzled me for a long time and that's the egolessness, and yet at the same time the existence of self--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's okay. Egolessness, selflessness, which is saying the same thing. But--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: That's what I'm asking, am I saying the same thing?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah, it should be. It should be, but--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: If one is egoless, does that mean that one has-- that there is-- that you're saying that there is no self?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's synonymous. \"Atma\". Atma is also ego, as well as self. Ego is used as a slightly pejorative term. And self is often used as a positive term. But they're both saying the same thing. Unnameable positive entity that you have. I mean that's a myth. That's myth. But only thing exists and-- is the-- your perception, and water, earth, fire, wind. Elements does exist.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: They do exist.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And your consciousness exist. Which has nothing to do with the self or the ego, at all.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Except that you could say the self is made up of a unique combination of those elements, that each individual was slightly differently constructed.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, that's a... concoction.   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I don’t-- I don't know, I haven't answered--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well and try to feel it. And you might find you don't have ego or self. But you begin to realize you have elements, and you have consciousness. Some kind of awareness.  Which is not really centralized in any way, at all, it just hovers around everywhere. Well, I mean that's very important point, actually.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, it's very important.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, it's really powerful thing to discuss.  And that seem to be--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3177.0,3319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: I suffer the illusion that there is a self, that I [laughter]-- what I consider ego. Or, that even if there are different...  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self is synonymous to death.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah, I understand that.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You understand that? [Laughter; laughs] That's good, yeah. [Laughter]   \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Are you saying that when one reaches this-- experiences this state, that there's a transcendence of death?   \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, be careful about that. You know, then-- [laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: When you said it I felt I understood it, maybe I don't.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then when we talk about transcendence of death--  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I don't like the word \"transcendence\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3319.0,3381.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know, but whatever, that beyond death, is asking eternity. You know, beyond that is, what is-- death is \"discontinuity,\" and beyond discontinue is obviously continuity. But even that is questionable. But death in this case means death of perceiver *and* perception. And particularly, death of the perceiver, rather than percep-*tion*. So when there's no perceiver, perceptions can dance among themselves. But perceiver doesn't have to take part in that party. \r\n\r\n\r\nSo in other word, you can't entertain-- you can’t attain-- you can't watch your burial service. That you are already buried. But I will say, the intelligence goes on, as long as there is space and light, in the ordinary physical world; I don't mean any higher [laughs], whatever. As long as there is a space, as long as there is a Mars and Venus, Earth and Moon, the Sun, intelligence continues. Possibility is that whole world is enlightened without *us*. Maybe whole world is heaven. We made hell ourselves, by value-judgmenting the whole thing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3381.0,3509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It seems to me that unless one had an exceptional student of the dharma, and we've already murdered him out of kindness--   \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have what?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: We've already gotten rid of all exceptional students, in the earlier part of the discussion. Or in other words, we don't want any exceptional students. But unless there *were* one, or there weren't one [laughter], it would seem that an egomaniacal trap is built in. And so at the point when all the growth is not growth, would you describe the change as a leap, or as a wearing away? Is it a jump from a super egomaniac to a super egoless-maniac? [laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you want to know?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Would you describe it as a leap? Or as a gradual thing? Or would you bother to describe it?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you want to be a super of something?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I'm sure I do from time to time.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  That presents a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, we seem to have a different ideas of-- idea in the sense of egomaniac, we know. You can identify with it, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Mhmm. \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But, egoless maniac, or non-ego maniac, is entirely different thing to imagine, or even perceive such possibility.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: My question was basic though. If someone is a student, he is going-- it seems to me he or she is going to fall into these problems, or we couldn't be discussing it. And, the end of the problem -- is this a flash of lightning, or is this a slow erosion? Or-- for the student, without ever getting him exceptional.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's really gradual, extremely gradual. Before realizing where he is, he'd begin to realize he had actually had some kind of credentials. Believe it or not. But those credentials are very sneaky. It's much more subtle than your adulthood to, what you call, becoming old man. It's *very* slow, extremely slow. It's like you're growing up, you know, your body, you can't see your growing yourself, but you find yourself, you know, ten years time, you find your body is different than what it was. 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Because I wanted to become somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3763.0,3835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche? Where does the urge to artistic activity fit into this? In sense of like almost the obsession to make a statement in a, say a visual or musical form, and then the discipline that has to go behind that to make a statement? Because it can be, in a sense, an expression of this ultimate ego that you want to state it to-- state this to people. I mean where is-- I mean the drive or discipline behind that? How does that fit in to this...?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that it's saying the same thing. You know, creative art is related with \"things\" -- your perceptions, your projections, how you could relate with a plastic mold, or how you can relate with a bowl of paint, or your brush, and that relates with the-- on a canvas. It's-- I mean exactly identical. That when you begin to make something, that your means and your ground to work on is equally phenomenal situation. That egoless artists produce masterpieces. Or they might begin as ego-hood person, but then they end up by being non-caring, because of the achievement. That also applies to, you know, not only physical, visual art but audio art as well, I [laughing] mean it sort of all lumps together. \r\n\r\n\r\nPeople who produce masterpieces of art didn't mean to do it, but it happened; it was a sheer accident. And accident from that point of view means that egoless could be regarded as accident; whereas ego-*hood* work is regarded as a deliberate achievement. Like becoming yourself a president of the United States is deliberate thing. You vote for it, you strive for it, you spend money on it; is completely unartistic thing to do. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3835.0,3997.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What was it you said at the beginning about the relation to the materials, the tools?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean those are just kind of relationship, like your relationship with your lover, your relationship with your friend, rest of the world -- it's the same thing. That to the artist, their instrument -- musical instrument, or their canvas and their brush -- is their means to speak out; their language. And how you speak to the rest of the world is same thing. Exactly how you speak in the orally-- in ordinary relationships, it's same thing. I don't see anything special about that particularly at all. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3997.0,4051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, would you say that when Prince Gautama first left and studied with the ascetics, that he first began by trying to deny, or to grow with credentials, and that only later he saw the fallacies of that?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm. That's the precisely analogy. Is that Buddha trying to become like one of the yogis, and sort of he trying to become ideal acrobat, playing with the cosmic energy. And then find that something was wrong with it, something about-- something very clumsy about the whole thing. And that's the precisely reason he switched off from materialism to true spiritual search. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4051.0,4120.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, if one needs a sense of humor to become disentangled from the ego game, what does one do if one has no sense of humor? [laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you just relate with that you don't have one.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well how do you relate with it?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, just see you don't have a sense of humor.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But it seems you need a sense of humor to even be able to do that.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I'm saying. [Laughter] I think you can do it, if you push yourself. Tickle yourself to death. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4120.0,4161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What if the notion that the presidency is an unartistic thing became one's inspiration to become the president? What is that?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unartistic things like presidents?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: If one was hit by the notion that it was thoroughly unartistic to seek presidency, thoroughly uncreative, and that became the source of one's inspiration to reach the presidency. When you said it, I desired to be the president. [Laughter] I haven't thought about it in a long time. [Laughter] \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose anything is to develop sense of humor in what you're doing. If you can smile being president, that is in itself is very tastefully artistic. Madame President. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4161.0,4251.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche, when you experience the presence of another person, you often experience a sense of someone that feels similar, some basic similarity of consciousness. But also something that you experience as difference, and often the difference seems quite valuable, and a source of a great deal of interest. And I wonder how *you* perceive difference-- human personality differences, and whether you experience this as purely illusory or how you look at it.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Differences between... can you be more precise?  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Well, for instance the way a person moves, the way they speak, the way they create. You know, all those things that we experience about another person. I experience you as a person different from any other I've experienced. I--  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Me? [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4251.0,4343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER19: I mean, you might say that, you know, there is no ego, but I appear to experience the people around me as being, you know, different existences than my own.  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems. When there's more differences, that accentuate your perceptions. As well as relating with them as not exactly as ethnic fascination, but individuality.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: What about that?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good! I mean, I find it extraordinary when everybody comes to my interview, for instance, that how they handle their body, and how they sit down and how they talk, how they make the conversation flowing, or whatever, is fantastically beautiful. And people have their style they demonstrate, even if they're uptight, they have their own way of getting out of it, to get the conversation going. Fantastic! [Laughter]  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But if we're all identical grains of sand, how do you explain the mystery of difference in style?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, identical grain of sand from *your* point of view, but in fact they are not in where you are. Either they would be a right-side you, a left-side you, above you, underneath you, which makes differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4343.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42722/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispers] We should stop at that point, I think.  \r\n\r\n\r\nIt's getting rather... old. [Laughter] We could probably stop at this point. Thank you.  \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=4440.0,4479.32082"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730309VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=0.53,3.805"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled\nBuddhadharma Without Credentials","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=3.805,7.055"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in New York City, New York,\nat 224 Centre Street loft.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=7.055,12.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number one,\nMarch 9th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=12.14,16.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made December, 2006.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=16.47,22.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThis will be talk number one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=22.08,24.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the seminar Buddhadharma\nWithout Credentials,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=24.48,26.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in New York City\nby Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=26.9,30.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on March 9th, 1973.\nThis will be talk number one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=30.07,35.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nI'd like to welcome","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=35.14,37.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everyone take part\nin this seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=37.35,40.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also I hope\nyou'll be able to take part","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660#t=40.69,47.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/89671/file/185660/transcript/42723/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the nyinthun\nthat will end the 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