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Sitting practice of meditation awakens understanding of “ordinary mind,” ordinary experience of oneself. Contrasts Buddhist approach with Judeo-Christianity’s, of condemning oneself, looking outside for something to attain.  Buddha’s starting point in attaining enlightenment was not punishing himself anymore. Very direct description of Buddha’s enlightenment, as seeing through the contents of mind, a gap. The lineage of sanity and discipline has continued from the Buddha down through to present day. Describes enlightenment as \"the end of struggle, and neurosis, end of falling asleep and trying to wake up again all the time.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, nontheism vs. theism; what is singular about the Buddha's enlightenment.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 06 2020 to Nov 14 2020 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDescribes what it means to be \u0026ldquo;awake\u0026rdquo; as being oneself completely. Sitting practice of meditation awakens understanding of \u0026ldquo;ordinary mind,\u0026rdquo; ordinary experience of oneself. Contrasts Buddhist approach with Judeo-Christianity\u0026rsquo;s, of condemning oneself, looking outside for something to attain. \u0026nbsp;Buddha\u0026rsquo;s starting point in attaining enlightenment was not punishing himself anymore. Very direct description of Buddha\u0026rsquo;s enlightenment, as seeing through the contents of mind, a gap. The lineage of sanity and discipline has continued from the Buddha down through to present day. Describes enlightenment as \"the end of struggle, and neurosis, end of falling asleep and trying to wake up again all the time.\" In Q\u0026amp;A, nontheism vs. theism; what is singular about the Buddha's enlightenment.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/260/832/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1738183704","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1738183687_19751214VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHOrig-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2556.81306,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/260/832/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1738183704","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/260/832/original/1738183687_19751214VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHOrig-Access.mp3?1738183689","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2556.81306,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19751214VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19751214VCTR1 - Public Seminar - KCL - Enlightenment of the Buddha - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Enlightenment of the Buddha held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number two, December 14th, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made August, 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be the second talk of The Enlightenment of the Buddha, Karme Choling, December, 1975.\r\n\r\n\r\n[START ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY, NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:  --thinking in the future interest, that we could make this structure are less temporary and more permanent, so we could discuss further or sit, meditate further and so on. That a lot of responsibilities that since you have come up here, that you've volunteered your presence. So all you equally owe a debt of volunteer for discipline and participation, whatever is required may be. And your friends and friends of friends and your parents and friends of parents, whatever connections or chain reactions it might could set up. That what we are doing is successful and workable and would finally the main-- the mainstream of cleaning up process, that what we try to clean up the-- particularly, fundamentally, the psychological pollutions that exist in this country. And that's what our work is based on. \r\n\r\n\r\nYou might take smaller step, but it's bigger step, and you find out in the year 2001 that it's very much needed. And that now that we have no idea, there's so many trips and jargons taking place all over the country and nobody knows which is which, which is what, what is what, and somewhat confused. But you'll be sorry later, if you don't participate in work on the particular structure and situation which is based on very realistic, profound and traditional pattern, such as like ours. [Laughter] That would be the saving grace, in later times, and for the sake of humanity and American continent, particularly North America, and particularly Vermont that such ecological wisdom, future ages to come is very important. Well, that's your responsibility and our responsibility too. \r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that's quite fitting with the discussion that we're going to talk about this evening, following what we've discussed last night.\r\n\r\n\r\n[END ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY, NOT IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are going to talk about a further concept of awake, which is actually based on kind of a chain reaction process, ecological, psychologically ecological process. When we talk about awake here, we are not talking purely about, as we discussed last night, not sleeping, and being watchdog. But we are talking about fundamental wakefulness. Which are based on some sense of experiencing what's problem and what's promise, and what's wrong with the situation and what's right with the situations. Which is particularly exemplified by Buddha, Siddhartha's, his own approach to life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=27.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the question were, that he was able to reject such pollution, in the spiritual materialistic level, of those of the existing cultures that surround him. And then he decide to sit by himself, and meditate by himself, which is the first beginning of the journey, in which that he begin to feel, experience, that there is a possibilities of cleaning up the world. And not particular dwelling on existing problems, and trying to glorify them particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=91.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this particular discussion and this particular I.T.S. that we have, I would like to make everything very concentrated and very personal, rather than simply theorizing what you should be doing. Should you be breathing from the right nostrils rest of your life? Or should you be eating sunny-side up? [Laughter] And we are not particularly concerned with the gadgets, and tricks and systems. But we are more concerned about your basic attitude; taking a responsible role in this society, for your own mental health, as well as rest of the world's mental health, ecologically. That's your role. That seem to be the important factor, rather than what *should* you do, what *could* you do. Which trip is best, which trip is worst? Should you take LSD or should you take part in an enlightenment intensive? Or should you do the E-S-T? Or whatever. Those little gadgets that exist all over the place, particularly prominent in California [laughter]. And we don't have to discuss merchandise at this point. Before you buy anything, that we have to have a basic financial status. How much can you buy, how much you don't want to buy, how much place that you should put your money in, how much place that you should actually try and avoid getting bad merchandise?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=142.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's what we are discussing here is more concerned about philosophy of economy, or ecological, psychological state of being. Rather than giving you little tricks that you should be doing, little tricks to trying to see behind your eyeballs. Or you should trying to chew garlic. Or trying to tie a string on your wrist. All these little tricks that exist, unfortunately. A lot of the junk came from the Orient, presently. A lot of junk is received very hospitably, by the Occident. So we made a basic mutual mess [laughter] this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=253.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you're going to clean up all those, trying to free from spiritual materialism, psychological materialism, that we have to have some ecological purity, which is based on idea of awake. Awake concept is not so much based on idea of a *sudden* revelation, that a lot of people begin to expect. In sudden revelation, you be told a certain word, concept, ideas. You be meditating on it. Suddenly, violently, that you have discovered what's been said, understood what's been said. And from that time until eternally, up to your death, that man has become entirely different man, a wise man. Suddenly transformed, in the matter of one second, or fraction of a second. That's sounds like that we been reading too much comic books. That we been expecting too much from magic; which we have no idea what is magic is all about, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=322.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We can't expect anything sudden and precise and direct and liberating. And if that is the case, we are trying to control, transform, combat the law of karma, completely. That we can't change our own existence on this Earth, which people trying to do so very hard. You be embarrassed to be Caucasian, and trying to be Japanese, trying to be Indians, trying to be Tibetans. The closest you can come to is plastic surgeries or trying to wear robes, eat their particular type of food. But still, you have the same daddy, same mommy, same sisters. [laughs] You have same memories of high school and American hassles, at the same time. You can't change those -- nobody is in this whole universe can undo your past. Can recreate \"your past was great, so therefore, your present is good,\" either. So, there's some kind of problem. That some people embarrassed what they are, some people like to be better what they are. Things can't be change that way at all; absolutely impossible. Unless we are awake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=464.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But awake this point, doesn't mean to say suddenly you have a different perspective about your wife, your husband, or your hairdo. But awake is simply further understanding of what you are, where you are, *actually.* You're awake because you begin to realize we had the potentialities of all kinds, but nevertheless, that we have neglected our potentialities, as such. But we would like to transform, change and reform. Which comes from basically theistic traditions, predominantly that of Judaism and Christianity -- no doubt about that. That man is condemned, constantly: \"There is a basic original sin, that we did something terribly wrong. Therefore, we lost our country, therefore we lost our sanity. And *one* of these days we going to back to Jerusalem, and usually next year, always.\" [Laughter; laughs] Or, \"We going to attain the kingdom of God, when the next Messiah comes along,\" which is usually about fifty years ahead, or ten years ahead. And some people have a bright idea that it's going to happen next month and they gather together on top of mountain, and nothing happens. And then they would say, \"Well that was a mistake, and we did it wrongly. Wait for the next ten years time, and let's gather ourselves on the top of mountain *again* once more.\" [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=584.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All kinds of things we tend to collect, and lot of the theistic traditions usually give some kind of juicy carrot, that we can follow, as if we were donkeys. And more you have a sense of longing for the carrot, which you can't quite lay your hand on, more you be stretched your patience, and exertion, discipline, because of your longing, your longing for the carrot. Which might be a good trick, in some sense. But why it's necessary this way. Why don't just we declare that we are eternally awake, that we are possible to wake, all the time? We don't have to present carrot. Or worm front of fish, particularly. That helps *a lot*. Our anxiety is cut off, reduced at least. Then we could relax and sit, meditate at least. Doesn't have to become mystically neurotic, anymore. We could be ordinary person, who just relate with the sense of awake, which takes place in us every moment. And just simply relate with that wakefulness, very simply, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=738.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Buddha trying to work this out, in six years, sitting in the bank of Niranjana River. And he found out that he's been too harsh to himself. He's still trying to bow to the spiritual materialistic approach to seek-- in order to seek, that he should suffer. And end of six years, that he decide to suddenly give up, the final trips of all kinds. And he went out of village, and someone offered him this milk broth, rice pudding with milk something like that, in the Indian tradition. And he had to help himself, and sat down on the kusha grass that he was collecting in order to make himself somewhat more comfortable. And he realized the punishing himself and trying to seek is not the question-- not the answer. And he sat down underneath this particular tree in Bodh Gaya and those days known as \"people's tree,\" which is now known as \"bodhi tree.\" Sat down under that particular tree, and he relaxed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=857.0,957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all kinds of subconscious gossip occurred to him, in the most vivid, fantastic phantom. Temptations all over the round. Once you fast, and once you sit in austere situations of that nature, once you begin to give in, all kinds of certain things begin to occur back to you, come back to you. There's naked ladies dancing round, and there's terrifying enemies making face at you, begin to kill you, murder you. There's all questions about \"Who are you? What you're doing here? What do you think you're doing? And what is your credentials of doing this? That you're going to-- you think you are going to conquer the world of neurosis, world of samsara altogether. What is all this about, what you're doing here? Give up your trip of wakefulness, and sleep with us, fight with us, indulge with us.\" All kinds of things come up, that particular threshpoint obviously. But at the same time, that Siddhartha knew, those particular situations were just purely phantom of his own imagination.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=957.0,1075.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Suddenly something happened. Nothing dramatic and fantastic particularly. Having realized those phantoms are purely one's own make-up, really truly one's own make-up, not just in order to rid of them, or in order to get better time. And suddenly things subside; there's a gap, complete gap, where things didn't matter very much. \"Those phantoms are okay. So what?\" State of \"so what\" is the same as state of wakefulness. *So what?* [Laughter] A most delightful experience, on the other hand. [laughter] So what? [laughter] Sense of relief, no doubt. Sense of accomplishment, sense of victory. A sense of let down at the same time. Because you are trying so *hard*, you didn't get anything, particularly. That there's nothing had happened suddenly, no glorious experience of intense bliss, that he originally rejected, what we discussed yesterday. Nothing really happened, but everything happened at once. That is enlightenment experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=1075.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we as student of Buddha, direct line, and we inherit that his particular line of discipline and tradition and sanity, through generations by generations of generations, up to the present situation, that we inherited that particular style. Here we are! That we trying to understand a portion of that particular \"so what.\" The basic point is a sense of awake is not so much of combat. The sense of awake are not so much of achievement. Sense of awake is not so much of an archeological discovery. Or result of practicing immense extraordinary hatha yogas, of gymnastic systems, that you can actually put your big toe in your mouth. [laughter] Or you can grow a little tail [laughter], in the result of kundalini practices [laughter], whatever is may be. Since whole thing is nothing to do with gymnastic accomplishment, a dietary reform.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=1206.0,1322.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And since everything has nothing to do with particularly trying to build image of oneself as Superman, as Clark Kent [laughter], or something like that. It is very ordinary. Sometimes in certain tantric traditions it's called ordinary mind, which is a peak of experience, on the other hand. Sometimes it's called enlightenment, in the basic tradition of bodhi, \"Buddha,\" which means \"he who attained wakefulness,\" which is \"Buddha\". \"Bud\" meaning awake; \"dha\", which makes a noun. \"He who attained that state of wakefulness.\" He who actually got it, he actually experienced, who is in it, state of awake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=1322.0,1397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a [laughs] very clear experience [laughs], and extraordinarily humorous. But on the other hand it's not exactly laughing matter -- although you might laugh at it. In some sense it is a state of relief, obviously. End of struggle, and neurosis, and end of falling asleep and trying to wake up again and again all the time, not quite able to catch with it. A state of relief, which is called \"liberation,\" \"nirvana,\" \"wakeful.\" But nevertheless, it is not as good as the publicity would say. [Laughter] The closest description I could come up with is the coming to Karme Choling. The publicity says great deal, and \"you're going to get a great experience coming here,\" and all kinds of things, how good we are, how contemplative community here we are. But once you come here there's some kind of flop. [Laughter] But at the same time, within such a state of flopping process, that we still hold our arrogance, nevertheless. [Laughter; laughs] There's something to it, but there's nothing to it, at the same time. [Laughter; laughs] If you have any good questions, you're welcome [laughter; laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=1397.0,1515.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well what you described as the Buddha's experience of enlightenment, where nothing particularly happens but everything happens at once. Now that seems to go on all the time, but we don't seem quite to get it somehow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's precisely what it is all about. [SPEAKER1 laughs] I mean the question is that what he had experience is not particularly extraordinary. That we don't have to be 2,500 years behind, to become back to the-- get back to of medieval Indian, particularly, in order to experience that. Or for that matter we don't have to go to Bodh Gaya to experience that as such. Which some people feels that in order to experience total enlightenment they should take actual pilgrimage and you can be popped out, if you go to Bodh Gaya. That's on the spot where Buddha did, we could all should do that. Some kind of mecca. That when you are in Mecca actually something happens to you. But as far as Buddhists concerned, that's not quite the case, at all. That we can do it in the Grand Central Station, in the Empire States Building, in the middle of Chicago, what have you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the question is not so much of a result of push and pull, but a state of understanding in which that you can feel, you understand the flaws and holes that exist in the spiritual materialism to begin with. And then after that you begin to set forth your particular journey, very closely, very thoroughly. Anything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well that's real good. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure about that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh, well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Good\" is very one-sided statement.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I didn't mean it that way. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] Well it seems to come in little flashes all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But we always-- well, we seem to miss the real nuts of it, or something like that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the interesting point there is that difference from theistic traditions, particularly Christianity and Judaism, of their particular nature, is that instead of basic condemnation, original sin, fall of man, from this point of view Buddhism, that *rise* of man and fundamental intelligence is always been encouraged.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo out of that, you know, there's always room, there's always possibility. In order to attain some higher state of spirituality you don't have to condemn yourself, but you could *rise* yourself at the same time, at the same time. That seem to be the basic point -- actually, you know, that's the crux of the matter so to speak. Which is a non-theistic tradition, basically. If you have to belief in theistically, of external deity, or even could be said as internal deity, because of externality of everything, so you have some kind of feelings of being small, little. You could trying to reach high up, you feel inadequate and if you acknowledge your inadequacy much more and more further, that you might get close and closer, but then *again*, that you been humiliated so much, that you have nothing to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So maybe the reason that we miss the-- we seem to miss the full brunt of the experience or whatever, is that we keep thinking, \"well there must be something else,\" right? Or we keep bringing our expectations to it again and again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is somewhat based on savior notion, that you want to be saved. From that point of view, you could say that we are not unable to be completely humanistic enough, somewhat. But we are not talking about humanistic as such as the particular label that humanistic psychology people, which has a completely different logic than non-theistic logic, of Buddhism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=1515.0,1833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, I suppose this is a theological type question, but I'll ask it anyway. I've gotten the impression that the enlightenment of Buddha is considered like the greatest enlightenment, as compared with other people who may have attained enlightenment. But somehow Buddha's enlightenment was more expansive or somehow higher, or something like that. 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I would say that's very good thinking actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[START ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY, NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, you have described Buddha's enlightenment, and made it sound like a very simple straightforward thing. And yet Buddhism as it exists today, there are masses of literature, there are thangkas, there are ritual objects. Where does all this richness and material, how does that relate with the simplicity of Buddha's enlightenment as you described it?  \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's very simple actually. In order to explain the simplicity, you have to be very complicated and you have to say a lot, keep telling people it's very simple. You have to put a lot of energy to convince people. Takes lots of words, lots of analogies all the time. That's one of the problems, and to cut through people's conceptualizations. 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I mean it's more of letting go of the projector, to be accurate.  \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.  \r\n\r\n\r\n[END ARCHIVE TRANSCRIPT ONLY, NOT IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=2090.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'm wondering how the experience of wakefulness, which seems to be self-existing, connects with our work on being mindful. And our shamatha practice, which seems to involve tremendous sense of effort, at least at some point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it takes a lot of time to be awake, basically speaking. And also in order to convince that you have already wakefulness in you, you have to actually acknowledge that, so whole thing at the beginning, whatever level we begin is a fake, to begin with. But a fake in the right direction. Then you begin to built up, and you be finally begin to believe in that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=2134.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: How is that any different from the proverbial carrot, you know, that enlightenment being--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, carrot is different, because that's the promise. This case it's less promise, but you have to do something, simply, just do it. It's-- in fact it's interestingly-- interest analogy we could change. It's-- you walk on without a carrot. Still walk on, as if there's carrot. [Laughter] But you don't have visual things happening, taking place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But it's still sort of implied that, even though you're not like...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still implies what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It seems like the carrot is still implied, I mean if you're walk--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not particularly. No. I mean whole thing is hopeless altogether. [SPEAKER6 laughs] And you just sit and do it, nevertheless. There might be smell of carrot, you know, odor. But it's not really carrot. I mean that seem to be the whole thing, is that there is need for some kind of guidelines, that you should do something instead of just saying whole thing is a flop. Which is called skillful means.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=2193.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75308/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, I think you should have a good sleep tonight, after having worked today. Hopefully you'll be able to take part in practice more, tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf I may reiterate what we announced before the talk, of keeping track of what we are doing, and what we are trying to do so. The approach is not particularly that we helpless as such, particularly. And the approach is not, in other word, from the poverty mentality as such. And the approach seem to be is that we are trying to present you, that you could share what we are doing together, and join this particular rich experience that we are trying to present, and trying to work together. And join inspiration, as much as you came here, which is a rich experience, for us as a community here, as well as for yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I would like to ask people once more, consider what you can do for us, in terms of sharing the rich experience together. And we are not particularly looking for millionaires, who might be able to hook us into an-- under their particular domination. Which would be deadly. It would be terrible actually. That we might have-- actually end up providing chairs everybody sit on.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut we would to like to do it in traditional way, fearlessly. Rich or poor, prosperous or what's other word...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Not prosperous? Or poverty stricken?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Poverty stricken, that's right. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe have a fundamental pride in what we are doing. And you are welcome to join in, and you're welcome to speak to your connections, if you have, your rich parents who might be interested in seeing their children growing up [laughter] in a sane society. Or in friends, or whatever connections may be, or any kind of situations of that nature. Think of us when you go home. And take some kind of consideration what we are doing, also need certain amount of effort and diligence, generosity, compassion in dealing with the rest of the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also I might say so, that you owe us debt, since you set your foot on this particular property of ours, which is based on this particular inspiration. You are sitting right now on this ground and you have a lot of debts, and this debt is, you might be two days experience, maybe. But still it goes a long way. And you have dip yourselves into a very powerful situation, a very powerful water, dimple, whatever you'd like to call it. Which go a long way. So please think of us and trying to help us, and join our particular adventure, our inspiration.\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you have something to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes, Rinpoche, we have announcement [INAUDIBLE WORDS] . \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=2290.0,2556.81306"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75309","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19751214VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75309/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar 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1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=8.16,13.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75309/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made August, 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832#t=13.27,19.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/141083/file/260832/transcript/75309/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nthe second 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