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Guru presented more as \"spiritual friend\" who can guide you, someone who has experienced the path. Need for complete openness between you and the teacher; importance of knowing who you are, showing even negativity and neurosis. Direct, two-way communication brings \"meeting of two minds.\" Steps in teacher-student relationship: teacher as mirror; teacher sending one away if becomes too dependent -- awakens \"inner teacher.\" Subtlety of \"spiritual friendship\", of working on level of mind. Necessity of having someone to surrender to. How to find \"right\" teacher: genuine communication happening based on your own personal experience. Openness key for both student and teacher in order to teachings to be communicated. A long Q\u0026amp;A that covers ins and outs of teacher-student relationship.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 09 2024 to Oct 15 2024 Transcribing: Emily Waters Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Blaire Martin, Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFinal talk of seminar about the role of the teacher, or guru, on the spiritual path. Guru presented more as \"spiritual friend\" who can guide you, someone who has experienced the path. Need for complete openness between you and the teacher; importance of knowing who you are, showing even negativity and neurosis. Direct, two-way communication brings \"meeting of two minds.\" Steps in teacher-student relationship: teacher as mirror; teacher sending one away if becomes too dependent -- awakens \"inner teacher.\" Subtlety of \"spiritual friendship\", of working on level of mind. Necessity of having someone to surrender to. How to find \"right\" teacher: genuine communication happening based on your own personal experience. Openness key for both student and teacher in order to teachings to be communicated. A long Q\u0026amp;A that covers ins and outs of teacher-student relationship.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/504/small/open-uri20250521-778-x9iy9b?1747839630","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250521-778-429boc.mpga"]},"duration":4871.45413,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/504/small/open-uri20250521-778-x9iy9b?1747839630","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/504/original/open-uri20250521-778-429boc.mpga?1747839630","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4871.45413,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710531VCTR2-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710531VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Los Angeles - Battle Of Ego III - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Battle of Ego III, given in Los Angeles, California. This is talk six, \"Relationship to the Guru,\" given on May 31, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster, made May 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=0.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that what we discussed in terms of practice of meditation, and all the experiences, the next question is that our relationship to the path, and also that person who guides you on the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=38.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Often lot of people have asked questions, or thought about. The process of learning is natural evolution, evolutionary process, then how would one know that what keeps us from speeding, on this path? It seems necessary to have someone to guide us. Not as a highway patrol, but as maybe backseat driver. [Laughter; laughs] A friend. And this friend is called \"guru.\" But somehow that now that guru-- word \"guru\" seems to become old hat. It's overused, misused, underused, and all sorts of way has been battered around *so* much, that one had to get right perspective the idea of a guru.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=93.0,209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's another idea about the guru, is what is called \"kalyanamitra\" in Sanskrit, which means \"spiritual friend.\" That might be more feasible in a sense way of looking at, than somebody who possess higher, superior knowledge than you do, and you be undermined by that person. That's why the spiritual friend is-- notion of friendship is important. Because experience of spiritual path needs direct experience with path. In other word, intimate experience with the path. That path is nothing exotic or special, or higher or greater or bigger or longer. But path is an intimate one. It's part of our cup of tea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=209.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to experience such path, that you also have to have somebody who is associated with that path, who actually have done it, who actually have trodden on such path, that we don’t have to purely follow things in blind faith, or guesswork. But somebody's done it, somebody who'd achieved it. And this friend, spiritual friend also should be able to present direct knowledge; that is called, often, transmission or initiation. In fact it's quite definite: that one cannot receive proper transmission or proper initiation purely from the notion of hierarchical structure of spiritual authority. It becomes a burden, in other word. That somebody who had done it, somebody who knows much better than you, who's higher, greater. Therefore he is extremely compassionate in fact, to actually pay attention to you. That his heavy-handed initiation, of presentation of the golden cup, is handed down to you, miserable little person. [Laughs] Overwhelming -- one doesn’t know what to do with the golden cup! You never had one. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=327.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, intimate friendship with the spiritual friend, or direct contact is important. At least one knows what to do with what you have received. And this kind of direct communication, what is called \"meeting of the two minds.\" That teacher opens, and you open. Both of them are in a same space. Meeting of the two minds then *truly* takes place, properly takes place. But there is something else. If you make a friend with somebody, in the complete sense, that you also have to-- that you know what you are and how you are. That is what's called surrendering, opening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=491.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You might prostrate or you might shake hand with the teacher, or your friend. But if your movements of prostration is clumsy or if your hands are dirty when you shake hands, one shouldn’t be ashamed of; just present yourself as what you are. It's a presentation of complete psychological portrait of oneself to your friend. Complete openness. Including the neurosism, and all sorts of negativities that we feel that we possess. Whole point of meeting with the teacher is not to impress this person so he will able to give you something. But whole point is just to present yourself as what you are. There is notion-- there is analogy of doctor, of physician and patient's relationship, which is useful. That you are the patient, and teacher is physician. But one have to tell all or let you-- open yourself completely to this physician: what’s wrong with you, what kind of illnesses you have. And if you open more, surrender completely, then that much help that you're going to get. Whereas if you trying to hide yourself, and trying to impress, you are also sick but partly you are also healthy. And if you try to impress your physician, presenting the picture of you are basically healthy one, and you don’t really require much of attention, help, then naturally that you're not going to receive. Doctor is only going to work accordance with your health, rather than anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=578.0,730.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the same way that a teacher or spiritual friend is your creation: that how much material you present to the spiritual friend, then the spiritual friend also work along with it. Of course there's another notion. People often ask, finding the right person. And when we talk about right person, in terms of spiritual teacher, we often think that this teacher had to be a hundred percent enlightened person. And that sort of gives a tremendous encouragement, that you got the best person, enlightened person. And for the very fact that idea of enlightened person or enlightenment itself is very difficult to understand, and you have some preconception of what they are. So that result is that if your spiritual friend is not accordance with your category, or pigeonhole, doesn’t fit into any of them, then produces tremendous confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=730.0,888.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And generally that you wouldn’t search for such a person with idea, or concept. You wouldn’t look for such a teacher that because teacher has been popular, and he opened other people, he instructed other people. This teacher has been well-versed, because your friends have studied with this teacher. At all -- that it should be, again, based on the scientific knowledge, basic knowledge, of yourself. No matter whether this person is-- this teacher is famous or humble, somehow recommendation are irrelevant in this case. It should be based on a personal experience; that whether we are able to communicate with such person, whether we are able to work with this person as a friend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=888.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, also working in terms of a friendship. But this kind of friendship is very subtle one. It's friendship on a spiritual level. Which it sounds very heavy. And a spiritual friendship is based on working of the mind. That if this person is going to be close friend of yours, he's going to concern with your basic psychology, begin to work with you. But there is a notion of another analogy of relationship with the teacher and the student is said that, at the beginning you find your guru as a supermarket; that he possess so much knowledge and wealth, of varieties of things, and interesting. And next that meeting with your spiritual friend, guru, is like a criminal going to court. That you become self-conscious and guilty and small, did something wrong. And the last relation with a teacher is that of observing cow grazing on the meadow, and you are passing way-- passing through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=987.0,1131.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems this heavy-handed friend of ours, is going to mind our business. [Laughs; laughter] In fact, fundamentally speaking there's no privacy at all. Every corner is being watched, perceived through. More we trying to hide, more that penetrated through. It is not necessarily the teacher is extremely awakened or mind-reader. But it is because of our paranoia, because our relationship, that we want to hide, we want to present our better picture. And that makes more paranoid or transparent in fact. The covering itself becomes transparent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1131.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And certain stage, when teacher begin to act as a mirror, we find irritating, discomforting. It seems that at that level the teacher is not trying to be helpful to you at all; trying to be provocative, masochistic. But fundamentally, such kind of... sort of basic friendship, and basic openness, overwhelming openness this teacher is involved with you is the only way. It's kind of *real* friendship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1206.0,1268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems the next stage involved with this is one begin to feel comfortable. It doesn't matter-- one doesn’t mind being watched or no privacy; in fact one find extremely comfortable, easy, because you don’t have to work anything out for yourself. You just run to the mirror and just ask the mirror. Everything is done for you, worked out for you. Then becomes-- this is point of addiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1268.0,1314.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in this case that generally pattern takes place, that either you been sent away, or even in-- you'll be rejected, by this friend. Because such addiction is not very healthy one. Then one begin to learn how to work on oneself, as you be rejected or you been sent away. And then the relationship, and the meaningful quality of relationship becomes very vivid and open. And the teaching-- one begin to feel closer to the teaching. One is-- because one is begin to work on oneself without external help. So certain level, then discovery of inner teacher begin to develop. One begin to relate the experience of life as process of teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1314.0,1404.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the whole, it seems to be important to have friend who could work with us. Because the fundamental danger are connected with ego’s style of working on the spiritual path, is that one would choose, pick and choose certain practices and certain attitude called \"spirituality,\" and one would try to use that as a way of benefiting oneself. So possibility is that one could become self-made spiritual person, which could be extremely dangerous. In fact, the term \"self-made spiritual person\" is in itself egohood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1404.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic pattern is that one has to have someone to surrender, external person to surrender. A person could ask questions; you could ask questions saying that, \"Can’t I surrender myself to my pet Pekingese [laughter], or my wife, or husband?\" [Laughs] Because they seem to play also role of irritation and learning process. [Laughter] And that is so. But somehow that kind of irritation is not fresh irritation that your spiritual friend could create. Such kind of irritation is super irritation. [Laughs; laughter] And relationship that is not involved with emotion, or relative -- being your dog or being your wife or husband or children, is different. There is a natural tendency of you would like to mold them into your life situation in any case, how detached you are may be. With this spiritual friend that there's no notion of that at all. Ideally speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1470.0,1595.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course that doesn’t necessarily mean that person should have only one spiritual friend, and had to be faithful to this person, and there's no point of learning from other friends. But it is important to have a basic one person to work on, because that one's surrendering process is being completely open to one person. Whereas if there are hundreds of them, then one might surrender one part to another person, another aspect to the somebody else, and whole picture is not completed. But at the same time that learning process could take place, with the basic surrendering process with the one person, and other process of learning could made with other spiritual friend, and the journey could take together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1595.0,1652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that your spiritual friend is also another student. That seems to be most important attitude to take. It seem that your teacher is not absolute, or living buddha. And your teacher is also another traveler, like yourself, but in a different-- maybe different level. The teaching process also becomes learning process, as far as the teacher is concerned. It should be working together process. And one could say there's a danger, if the teacher stopped learning from you, and teacher trying to impose on you, and he would like to make you a replica of him. Then, there seems to be something wrong with the relationship. If there's no communication, no real warmth or no real contact. In other word if there isn't fun process of learning, if whole thing becomes solemn, impersonal, and purely imposing on you -- that teacher's trip on you -- then there seems to be something stagnating quality about it. And the best thing is not involved with such person as a friend at all, of course. And if you happen to involve with such a person, then it is your duty to help *them*, become counter-teacher, counter-guru. That you don’t feed them anymore, with their superiority, even up to the level of irritation, trying to raise irritation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1652.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, maybe sound complicated, all these relationships. But I think basic point is that using one’s common sense, and openness. If the openness is not communicating properly with another person, then something wrong with the relationship. If the communication of openness involved with exchange of another person, then relationship seems to be right. And basically the transmission of the teaching, imparting the teachings of lineage of your particular teacher, is based on the meeting of the two mind of openness. Without that, one cannot learn anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1801.0,1861.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that there are lot of things to still go through, with idea of meditation and other things, but seems our time is limited, and perhaps we should stop there. And maybe have a discussion, short one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1861.0,1891.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I might as well get it off my mind. When you speak about the guru and the student, that's a beautiful thing to think about, isn't it? But I think the modern world has besieged the guru in such a way, where he has become a mythical traveling salesman. And so that -- you know really, I think some people will agree with me, I hope -- he becomes a traveling salesman. So what really happens to a person is, \"There is my guru! I *know* there's my guru.\" But where is he? It's like somebody opening up your belly and letting you to bleed. Not there to sew it up, not there to do anything, you're bleeding. So, what do you do? Follow the guru? Then you can't-- the world isn't situated, you know, materialized that way either. Can't! You can't travel and hold his tail and run after him, \"Look, you've opened up my head and now what are you going to do with me?\" It's a painful thing, you know that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, in a way I think more or less there's a protective measure of non-involvement. Which is not right, because there's a conflict there. \"Shall I, shall I not?\" Do you understand? You're left-- you're left like I'm showing you my hands are out, you're left. [Laughter] The pleasure was mine, as they say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that I think it is also involved with attitude and one's practice, with study with person. That if you're become extremely fascinated by this traveling salesman; that he has hundreds of things to sell, and-- but he packs his bag too soon and he goes away. You'll been so fascinated with so many things he has, and you spend more time admiring them, and you never manage to buy anything at all. So it's question is that one had to just pick up something simple, or something... maybe something cheap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No, that's terrible. Terrible. [Laughter] Then let's not even identify him as a salesman.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? Let's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Then let's drop the identification of salesmanship; let's take another avenue for him. And-- because we're not buying anything, you're not selling-- nobody's selling anything or buying in that sense. The point is, it's not a fascination either. It's an interest, it's a desire, it's a need.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well actually, in a sense--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean we won't even talk about fascination, that's not so superficial. It's a need, it's a desire. It's like you-- like they say, you know, when the guru-- when the student is ready, the guru appears. Apparently, the person who is saying, is feeling this is ready! It's-- there's a need. All right, so the need-- so you come together. And you find, \"Here is where I can do something with my needs,\" or however you going to, you know, sentence it, it doesn't matter. But, there it is! You know, you just saw it, like a mirage, and it's gone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's what I mean-- I don't mean buying-- nobody can settle for cheaper, that's beside the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe you could; that's maybe the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: For cheaper?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, not trying to buy the expensive ones, but just settle on simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I can't put that in the terms of money. Would you explain that to me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Five cents worth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I wish I hadn't mentioned money or sales. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see the whole point is that if you're trying to... it's not question of that having someone to watch you all the time, but it's question of how much you're able to take opportunity of this spiritual friend. And it seems that you *can* take opportunity, or working with this spiritual friend, even for a short time. When I started studying meditation I was-- when I was about nine, and my teacher spent about ten days in my monastery, and then he had to go. And that whole ten days was very profitable. As though he was there all the time; there's something to relive that experience of ten days. It's perpetually rich thing. Until I met him next time, somehow this-- the richness went on and on and on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I won't belabor it, but you-- I think you know what I mean. It's different here, in, you know, in this setting. It seems like we can't spend ten days with somebody. You know, that you say, \"my spiritual friend, my guide, my whole--\" you know, the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I mean essentially she has a point, she has a point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You know, you know, even so--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: They come here, and they give meditation, they give mantras, and then they disappear, and then people are supposed to--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'll follow them, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --do the same thing for years and years and years--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --and then when you follow them, there's a hundred and two-- two hundred fifty people there. So they say, \"I'll give you five minutes.\" \"Can you see me for ten minutes?\" So by that time the ten minutes, I'm not-- \"It's on my schedule,\" you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's very true. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --because I'm a spontaneous person. What am I going to say to somebody who says \"I have ten minutes to give you.\" Nothing! And I say \"Thank you, I'll do it another time.\" But I don't mean to have somebody, like a crutch and guide me constantly. You know, that would be, you know, sickening. [Laughter] But sometimes to feel the presence, like you say, you know, it should be your friend, your guide, somebody-- of course you relive the things that you take from, and-- because it perpetuates inside of you, naturally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=1891.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, obviously it's a different culture, it doesn't matter.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, right. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It just doesn't. They come and go. And it's going to begin to happen with you, so [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]. Last time you came-- It's true. It’s true. Last time you came, you came alone. It's absolutely true -- I mean, I lived through all of this in India and here. And I'm afraid it's going to happen you too, dear. [Laughter] Now you have-- now it's busy. And now you've got a secretary, and she makes ten minutes appointments. And next time you come, there'll be not six people, there'll be twelve people, and you'll only get five minutes. And the same old thing again! So please avoid it, is what she's trying to say. I say they're *endless*, and they're coming from Satchidananda and [UNCLEAR], Chinmoy, and others. All of them come here -- Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the whole gang of them! They come-- [Laughter; chatter] It's a very key point. Muktananda was just here last time. They all do the same thing: they come, they initiate everybody. \"God bless you!\" [Loud laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And they usually supply them with a private plane and an automobile [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Private what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Plane and an automobile.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: \"You may still find me up at the Continental lobby.\" [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's an amusing reference too.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Oh, I could tell you some things [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Anybody in Los Angeles could tell you some things. [Laughs, laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If it appeals to you [INAUDIBLE], the same thing could happen to you. So if I lose you, I don't [INAUDIBLE]. [laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] And, next question. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The next thing to add to last night's \"the things I don't want,\" one of them was fame, years ago. And I feel so happy that I had made that decision years ago. You see what I mean? Fame could be a thing with horns that's just-- it's very hard to bear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=2320.0,2480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: To get back to the discussions about the emotion. And you spoke about this in [INAUDIBLE], emotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I notice that-- it seemed to me, suddenly came to me that you don't use the word \"desire\" very much. And in Hinduism and other teachings, that word \"desire\" plays a very-- and the concept of desire plays a very important role. Like, you know, what makes one have a passion? What-- you know, there's a desire there. What makes one become aggressive, and possessive? Isn't there sometime that comes before it, *light* the desire first? Where does desire come in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Emotion. Well desire is... seem to be very partial one, in a sense. It's longing to do something; it's very partial. It is connected with that grasping aspect of it. Desire is, in a sense, the feeling of poverty, which brings desire: that you want to enrich, or you wanted to collect more and more. It's a sort of process of collection. And emotion is general thing; it could be collecting one or it could be an aggressive one trying to repel against other things. But--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, which would be desire not to have. I mean, because in Hinduism it's stressed so much, as the basis of all the things, is desire; the basis of ego is desire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in a sense you could say, well it's usage of different words. The basis of everything seems to be ignorance. Fear, in fact. And from this fear, then all sorts of possibilities begin to extend; mechanism of surviving oneself. It's the-- also the aggression quality as well in a sense, that definition of dharma as being passionlessness. And the opposite of that as being aggression. The speed, the hunger, that is involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=2480.0,2683.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You mentioned \"inner teacher,\" that at some point a person might discover that they can look within to find the way. And I wonder, is that something that happens slowly, or over a long period of time? You seem to mention it at a certain point, rather than a sense of discretion being developed over a period of time. Could you speak to that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that you tend to grow certain... feeling of comfort. That you don’t have to work on anything, but you being fed by it. Whenever there is any the feeling of need of it, then you just go and receive information from your teacher. And when that sort of continual collection becomes extreme case, it seems to be point of one have to really make a break. And rely more on inner teacher. And in many cases it’s rather painful operation, for people to break such ultimate sort of enjoyment, entertainment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Might that happen over a long period of time with different teachers? Are you speaking of one particular transition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're talking in individual case of one teacher, relationship with one teacher. I mean, that's-- you could work with another teacher, maybe the relationship hasn't reached that level. It's kind of certain amount of trust, and then you begin to trust more than necessarily, and begin to receive only informations. That weakens one's own basic health.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So I hear you saying this is something that happens in cases in which the relationship isn't right. And it was my idea that this would happen even in a right relationship between teacher and pupil. That at some point--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: : Well, it is a right relationship, fundamentally it is a right relationship. But that becomes-- that *could* become wrong relationship. I mean, it's a sort of right sign in a way, right sign of relationship. But then it becomes addiction, a certain stage, then it becomes turning into wrong. Like taking medicine, and medicine cures your sickness, but then you're still attached to the medicine, becomes addicted to it. It's that sort of very delicate level, of how far that could take you, how far you should believe, let go.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does this happen in every case at some point along the line?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems so, yeah. I mean, a lot of the stories of great teachers, Tibet and India. And most of the cases almost identical repetitive thing. Similar things happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=2683.0,2901.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What kind of communication is there between the student and the guru when they're apart physically? Like, you know, like hundreds of miles.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When-- is there a relationship between the student and the guru, a communication, when even though they may be very far apart?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well... if they are both associated with the path, it seems communication continue. But I don’t mean to say in terms of psychic experience of teacher, coming into your dream and begin to help you with your problems of meditation necessarily. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=2901.0,2968.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You say we-- that we-- it's possible that *we* impart consciousness to clouds and trees, and then they impart it back to us in a sense. Is that what you said in the last session? That they by themselves had no consciousness of us, unless we impart it to them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they don't project back on us.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: They don't project back on us, no.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, we project ourselves back on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: We project ourselves onto *them*?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And then that re-bounces back, like echo.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And it bounces back. Is it possible that we could do this with other living beings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's happening all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In other words it's an echo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, is it possible that we could deceive ourselves about the nature of the other being, is what it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=2968.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is it possible that the lamas could deceive themselves about the nature of the incarnation of the Dalai Lama, in this manner?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possible.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Where do you go from there? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are they-- well, then-- they're aware of this possibility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What kind of test do they give the infants?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, very elaborate. Such as like picking up their objects, amongst a lot of other things. And pointing to their name, name scroll, or picking up, amongst other things. Identifying their disciples, among other people.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well then this means that there is a belief there that there is some kind of energy which carries over. As you say from moment to moment, and also in this instance from life to life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From life to life as well. If moment to moment is continue, then life to life is bigger version of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So it's an energy which does carry a pattern or a memory in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it transformed, yeah. I mean it's not one energy going out along. But because of that there could be memory. Because there is process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Whereas that energy which was generated in the previous life, but has affected other energies which in turn-- which have come back. It's not necessarily the same energy or the same pattern, but it's affected by that energy and pattern.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Affected by that? Others, do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes. In other words, say in the previous life of the Dalai Lama, and whatever that can be understood as, did have an impetus and it-- which carried through. It had momentum.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Because it's like circulation. It's rather than, you know, one thing continual, but because it's process of circulation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Electric current.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, current. Therefore could be transmitted into next process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, do you personally feel that the Dalai-- the lamas were correct in their choice? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Most of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes. [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3029.0,3218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, let's go on to the current again. So if there is a current, isn't that in a channel even? Or in a pattern? If it's a current, it still doesn't go [INAUDIBLE] anyway. It still is in one, isn't it? In a pattern, in a current?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well yes, current follows the path of least resistance as it were--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --or the path of conductivity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Could you say something--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So there is a continuum?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So there is a continuum?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --from the past life to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continui--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --of the Dalai Lama to this life of the Dalai Lama?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continuity is happen to be there because there was discontinuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3218.0,3267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Could you say more about being open in such a way that you can see who is ri-- who is good for you and who isn't? You were speaking in a sense, and I don't think I heard it completely. That if someone that you're taking instructions from is making a certain kind of demand, that you can sense that that's wrong, right? That I listened to you carefully, when you said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, a demand in the sense of that if the other person, your teacher, wanted to mold your life into them, in a sense of like extension of their ego, make replica of them. And there's no communication but just \"follow me, imitate me.\" That's all, there's no further communication in terms of human, or compassionate communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So if there's no sense of friendship, if there's a sense of, instead if there's a sense of ordering one around–\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --then this is the way that you could sense that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --something's not quite right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3267.0,3352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I've heard that there are meditation practices through which, if you practice them, you can remember your former lives. Is there anything like that in the Tibetan tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nobody had practiced. But there is the idea of it: that you work on previous hour, and you work on the previous day, and you work on the previous month, and so on. Which is supposedly takes about sixty or seventy years to achieve, to remember-- extend your-- next-- your previous life. Or next life for that matter. And then you have to start on the other way, and try to remember the other side of it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The other side of it? What do you mean by the other side of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you're trying to remember your future, then you have to change your direction, trying to remember past! Spend another sixty years. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So that the past and the future are the same, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it doesn't seem to be. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Because the future is alterable, or-- do they exist at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That's what you're looking for, then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3352.0,3442.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is it possible that time– that there is some retrieval of inattention, of trying to-- as I was walking before the talk today, there was a sense of being part of the scenery, to a certain degree. And more sense of wholeness, that wasn't-- that was centered on me, but not-- but a little bit free from that. Where the tree and someone walking up the road was kind of-- I was kind of part of the scenery. And more aware in general. And then I walked back to my car and got in, to do something I had to do, and was totally lost, or whatever this was, to the thoughts I was having about that. It was something very unusual. And I got out of the car again, and because of this previous sense of awareness, I had a taste of my inattention while I was in the car doing that. And it seemed like almost that wasn't lost, that there-- something about time there that was just a flash. That it would be possible to learn something, even though it had already happened, about the way I was inattending. About how it was that I was lost, even though it was too late.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you were able to do-- that you were able to learn something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah, yeah. Is it possible to be aware of your inattention?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Inattention?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Inattention, lack of attention.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's almost seeing that that's possible, that-- it's a paradox, it doesn't make sense in my mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. It's-- if one is able to focus on the-- that moment, the given moment. It's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3442.0,3574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, to get back to what you were saying before, then your total manifestation, everything, is continuous *only* because it's discontinuous. Because it's always finished and starting. Is that what-- that's what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: That's the big joke, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: That's it's almost the dissolution which makes the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Big joke, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: A big joke. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3574.0,3602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I'd like to go back to the beginning of this talk, where you talked about spiritual materialism. You prefaced it with that, and the danger of going on without a guru, but we're left here without a guru. Now could you point out where the danger lay-- lies, exactly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's based on-- doesn't matter whether one is working on a spiritual subject or not. Generally one prefer-- one chooses. Like choosing food out of a menu, one chooses what particular things you would like to do. The same thing takes place in the spiritual practice as well. You're trying to choose which is more comfortable and easy for you, or appealing for you. And you just pick up that, and try to work on yourself. And particularly being extreme availability of so many books in the West.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah. So many different gurus.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So many different gurus, and so many different philosophy and religion, that one could have tremendous fun by tasting them, temporarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But where is the danger here now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then, that could be danger in itself. Then this could boost your achievement, your sense of the wide knowledge. And you feel that you didn't need anyone at all, that you build yourself up, as a buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is this dangerous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then you become--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Become an \"anti-buddha\" or something? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You become ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But you always *were* an ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You always were an ego, so how have you gotten yourself into a dangerous--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You'd become-- you'd become super. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: You have that view, so how still--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not completely. I mean, this sort of leads to extension of ego's so much extended into your-- not only your territory but other people's territory as well. And one begin to realize that you can impose the powers on others, influence others because of your collection, your achievement.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How would this be bad? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I mean, how is it dangerous to-- if you're following a basically sound teaching, even if you end up with some kind of spiritual materialism, say I don't know what, but in one method or another. And attached to it, and think that you've mastered it or something when really you haven't. How is this dangerous in fact? As opposed to your previous self, which was, maybe, no-- certainly no more conscious, maybe even a little less aware, awake, but now you're less oriented say toward say materialism or egoism or something like that. But you're-- at least you're oriented, you know, away from, say, materialism. Most religions teach that. Even if you only pick up that from the passing. In other words what way is this-- where is the danger?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that in itself becomes a material--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --materialism. And, I mean the danger in a sense of hurting other people, destroying other people as well, trying to do something. Because you haven't gone through the training yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE14: You mean trying to proselytize your, essentially what you think iscorrect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you're teaching other people.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, that's understandable. I don't know quite--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --how it's dangerous, but that's understandable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean hurting other people is dangerous isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But is it hurting other people? You know, we still have the books and the tapes, and the things that we have in our society, you know, movies and whatever. Whatever the media will use these days; we have radio, gurus appear on the radio. Where is the danger? Krishnamurti spoke of the danger of gurus coming to this country. I didn't quite understand when he spoke of it. Perhaps maybe you can tell us, where that danger lies.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, danger lies it seems chaos.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We have chaos.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could extend that chaos, spiritually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I don't quite see how.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Perhaps [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: That's a hypothesis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then try it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, we have no choice, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too bad. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Obviously. Really sad, I guess.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That it seem that world is moving much faster. That greater things. And it will be pity to have a spiritual atomic bomb. Which is just about to happen, that we have a physical atomic bomb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3602.0,3934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How are you [INAUDIBLE] non-chaotic home? What is the means of union?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Union of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, spiritual union, of sorts, and avoid chaos. We have, you know, 200 and some odd different sects of Christianity in this country. We have every form of religion. Now we have various forms of Eastern thought. And that's what we have, that's what we are. The Baha'is or someone like that, the world religion people say \"well, we can unite the whole world in one religion.\" Perhaps that's the way, I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't necessarily particularly so, but if each person had their proper way to follow. There doesn't seem to be chaos then.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But they can't follow it by themselves. They can't follow it, you know, in this sense, what you were saying, you can't really follow in the proper way, because where are the proper ways?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you, had to-- somehow, you had to belong to particular pattern. You had to tune yourself into particular pattern.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We have members of the IYI [Integral Yoga Institute] here, who are tuning into a particular pattern, but they're here, you know, listening to you as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: And so, like, they're, you might say \"colluding\", and their [INAUDIBLE] you could call it that. In other words, here's another-- introducing another polarity-- or another viewpoint of spiritualism or something, into the scene. Again, is this dangerous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Introducing another--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is it more chaos when you do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if they have found another pattern, or the discipline, with a surrendering process to their guru, that doesn't seem to be chaos.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I didn't know that that is, you know, a union, forming a union, a spiritual union, in say this country for instance. Is not worth the strength that the other path--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm not suggesting spiritual union.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, avoiding chaos, then. Avoiding a spiritual atomic bomb.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that could happen individually also.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I see. Well, I thought we were talking about proselytizing of one's own super-egoism and then spreading it among other people--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --and then having these multiple--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --multiple things. In other words reading books and things like that is also another form of proselytizing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --sort of, and on and on, but this is what we have, you know. The Bodhi Tree Bookstore essentially helped with this, and that's what they have, is a whole store full of those books. That's what we have there. I happen to like going down there and reading books, including yours. So, you know, that's where we're at, or I'm at. Perhaps that's a bad place to be, then that's a problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say that's a bad place to be. But, if a person is taking-- I mean there are hundreds of people go there a day, get involved with different things. But if they're highly involved with themselves, and by going there, by making collections of different things, together. And then, we seem to have very few of such type. We have Hitler, in the past. And we didn't seem to have all that many heroes, on the side of ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=3934.0,4163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We had the great religious wars.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We did, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE14: Killed more people than Hitler.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We have the yogis occasionally battling each other-- or the yogas in Eastern and Western.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The yogas?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah. The thing happened in India, just around last Christmas, where a group of yogis were fighting over that fact that they thought that somebody introducing the concept that Christ might have been a yogi. There was a group who didn't like that concept, that yoga was particular to India, so they [INAUDIBLE] supposedly, spiritually advanced people. I don't know if you agree, I don't like to talk too much about that but that, you know, that's the problem, as far as I see. That you describe it as dangerous, whatever attempt a person can make at spiritualism or something. Just, you know, I don't know. We just can't accept the terms because you say it, you know. I just, you know, can't accept it because you were saying that it's dangerous.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, need... you could read a book on how to perform operation, and you can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Not without the teaching of a skilled surgeon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seems what we're at.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But still, one feels that one is ill, and there are no surgeons around. [laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4163.0,4294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: One has a book or something. One has something. So you utilize, I guess, what you have, and you take your chances, and maybe God will protect us. [INAUDIBLE] I mean, after all, you're here, and you wouldn't be here if people didn't want you to come here. I mean, if there was a need of a surgeon, and you were that type of [INAUDIBLE]. Or you know people come from other disciplines, and they will have those other disciplines, or they will mix them as they go, and that's what's happening right now, that's why [INAUDIBLE]. So people feel that this society is ill, but there is no one with a scalpel blade and the knowledge to effect a cure, or at least that we can see it's happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [Whispers] Should I ask a question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I guess it's not a question. Maybe we should allow someone else [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4294.0,4379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Do we need a controlled chain reaction, a controlled spiritual chain reaction? Are we-- is-- are we, somewhere in society, the world, in need of introduction of some enormous kind of power, control? Like an atomic reactor, where you use it for power?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's generally seem to happen. If a person is thought interesting idea, and put it into practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Do you consider Hitler to be a kind of atomic explosion, a spiritual atomic explosion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, he didn't achieve it completely as he wanted.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It fizzled.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But you feel there is a danger that somebody could just learn enough to, you know, to set that off?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, definitely possibility. There's so many people hungry for power. Any possible way of getting power is the only way. I mean, on the other hand that those who have-- decide to get into such power trip to start with, then accidentally they involved with something else. Which change kind of another chain reaction with them. That's also possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4379.0,4474.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But that's the natural state for them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Natural pattern happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well, how do you feel about the Maharishi Mahesh? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that he introduced idea of meditation to-- put the idea of meditation to geography so to speak. And lot of people practiced, which is very-- I feel very good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In other words that was a kind of step in the evolution.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4474.0,4531.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: On an individual level is there a danger in a sort of an eclecticism, even if one has a central reference? For instance if someone were studying with you, and you were their spiritual friend, would there be any danger in their trying to understand and experiment with other techniques?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so at all. It seems that if they're working on some sort of basic interest in working on themselves, then other collections become a part of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: But it is important to have someone special and not just be trying all sorts of things, is that what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4531.0,4584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Well then what is one to do if one doesn't have a guru, and one is interested in being on the path? What then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, one have to-- you see, you-- guru can't just set you on the path. You're already on the path, and then the guru comes in half way, so to speak. So if one is interested in spiritual path, that means you have started. You have to begin more, you have to work on it closely. And then, you will meet someone. It's the working on the dissatisfaction and pain and questions and other things involved with spiritual questions. That's the first starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4584.0,4634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I've heard spiritual gossip that there was a Tibetan lama behind Hitler. It was a-- I'm wondering exactly [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] I'm guessing [INAUDIBLE] before. What do you say about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know, I wasn't there myself. [Laughter] Too young.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [INAUDIBLE NAME] is Tibetan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4634.0,4666.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I have expectations that after having spent this time here with you, if I go into, or when I start the meeting with the group and using the meditation and allowing what I hope has registered up here in this computer of mine to, you know, just work through me and with me, that in a ways you will not have gone away as far as I-- my-- as far as I feel right now. I don't see-- I don't feel deserted when you fly away to wherever it is you go.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Because I figure that I've only-- I can only absorb so much right now anyway, and you know, that's in there. And so whether you were available in Los Angeles and I could call you and say-- well you know, that wouldn't really make that much difference to me. Because, you know, I have all this to work on inside anyway now, you know, this new-- a lot of new things I haven't heard before and things like that, you know. So then maybe the time will come when I'll need to be charged up again, and I'll say, \"Hey, I'm running out of-- you know, I need some more of that stuff.\" [Laughter] And then I assume that, you know, that you'll just be there. Because like I didn't even know I was going to be here, you know? [Laughter] I really think that's happening in my life a lot lately, just, you know. So I want to say to this lady, you know, that I think if your vessel is full, there's no room for anything to get in; you know, like if you're so full of yourself, and wishing like it had been different or something, there's no room. You've got to pour all that old shit out, and then just be open and then maybe something will get in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4666.0,4779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Yesterday in the meditation, you used a very beautiful chant. And I was very much intrigued what the words were.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it was a quotation of sutra. And the beginning, it's what is called supplication chanting, of meditation lineage.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Which sutra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's Prajnaparamita.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: That's a big one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmmm. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: It *is* translated.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Then [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: It's translated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504#t=4779.0,4842.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148918/file/273504/transcript/80104/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perhaps we should end. The time is getting on. And thank you very much--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --for being extremely patient, and open.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: We'll miss you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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