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The distinction becomes fuzzy when we try to put them in conceptual compartments, which leads to the experience of groundlessness. Mind as functional -- minding situations as well as itself. Impulse described as a wall where your mind echoes, becoming increasingly louder as it bounces back and forth -- a mechanical action and reaction. Skillful means comes from that echo and understanding how you project yourself in the world."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Skillful Means and Wisdom (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jun 14 2020 to Mar 05 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Impulse and mind work together, though often considered as separate. The distinction becomes fuzzy when we try to put them in conceptual compartments, which leads to the experience of groundlessness. Mind as functional -- minding situations as well as itself. Impulse described as a wall where your mind echoes, becoming increasingly louder as it bounces back and forth -- a mechanical action and reaction. Skillful means comes from that echo and understanding how you project yourself in the world."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/153/small/thumbnail_245153_1720484770.jpg?1720470372","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1720484517_19760505VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":2196.33067,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/245/153/small/thumbnail_245153_1720484770.jpg?1720470372","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/245/153/original/1720484517_19760505VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1720484534","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":2196.33067,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760505VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19760505VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Berkeley - Skillful Means and Wisdom - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Following the other night's discussion, we could continue in the particular understanding of the impulse and mind. In some sense you could say that state without impulse doesn't have a mind, purely mechanical. But on the other hand, you could say, nevertheless, that impulse and mind work together. And if you have mind alone, it would be difficult to have an impulse to mind the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=28.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in a lot of very rare occasions that that happened -- that mind brings impulse along with it. But at the same time, mind is separate from impulse, nevertheless. Impulse is somewhat of garbage, inactive, restlessness, but mind is somewhat thought process-- thinking process in which that mind actually functions, and the discursive minds and minds of understanding, minds of insight, and all the rest of it. So impulse and mind become very fuzzy at some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=85.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But however in the Buddhist tradition of course, that we have always divided those two sections as being very separate thing -- action and thinking are very separate thing. Quite often action could be wrong but thinking could be right. On the other hand, thinking could be wrong but action could be right, then that's the-- we getting into vajrayana, which we don't need to discuss this [laughing] point particularly. However, just occasional reference point here, if you don't mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=136.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The skillful means applications, compassions -- against mind, insight, understanding, sense of clarity as well -- are all included in those two categories. But it is very vague, actually. We can't definitely say which belongs to which particular camp, so to speak. And sometimes Buddhist logic become rather fuzzy, at this point, because for real Buddhists who are brought up in Buddhism and have actually practiced, understood the whole thing, couldn't care less what part of which is function which where. So becomes somewhat fuzzy edge in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=181.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[whispering] [INAUDIBLE WORDS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=248.0,288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The definition of \"mind\" maybe we should discuss further more tonight. \"Mind\" in this case the-- one of the definitions according to the Buddhist tradition is: mind is *so*, therefore you can *mind* to situations. So in other word, the definition of mind is somewhat functional. That mind can be only mind if it only minds situations and only relates with the mind, only related with the situations. That could be only function of mind, otherwise if mind doesn't function in the relationship to situations alone, then mind cannot be mind because it couldn't mind itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=288.0,355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that, has also the reference point of a dash of intelligence and dash of also confusion, which brings together intelligent and confusion put together, which usually tend to bring some kind of *spark*. And if you're on the heavy side of either of those, either you are called as completely freaked out or neurotic or schizophrenic or whatever you have, or else you are highly intelligent and very even-minded, as traditionally known in English language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=355.0,403.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the basic point of mind here is not so much of the traditional concept of the higher mind of the dharmakaya or whatever we might discuss in the vajrayana or really enlightened level, but we are here, we're discussing something that we perceive, something we actually understand, somewhat, and something that we actually can watch our own mind constantly taking place. We could have a check and recheck, check and recheck on our mind. And mind checks itself, as if a dog bites its own body of flea, that mind can only-- also can check its own irritations and bite itself, free from fleas, irritations, what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=403.0,453.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the mind is coils by itself and work with itself, at the same time also projects out whenever there is any kind of danger, or aggressive situations involved, or any kind of situations where mind would like to magnetize its comparable babysitter, or comparable companion, and mind begin to magnetize them as well at the same time in its wishful thinking, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=453.0,489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So mind is somewhat very flexible. A worm which doesn't have a backbone to spray itself, and but could curl back and forth, if even if it's cut in half could grow itself by different individuals. It's like-- just like a worm with a very flexible backbone -- without a backbone, but still functioning mind is a worm you could say. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=489.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then when mind begin to meet impulse, which is a temptation as the theistic traditions talk about \"fall of man\" and all kinds of bad things that man did, [laughter; laughs] fall of man and all the rest of it. That mind has geared in the wrong direction, the wrong situations always. According to the theistic traditions that we've never been right, we've never been on the dot, properly, completely. And we swayed along all the time, that as far as the idea of impulse is concerned that mind is such that it could also run into problems and promises of all kinds, which conventionally are called opportunities. And people say that going to the United States of America is the land of opportunity. You can be a rich person -- if not, you can be at least be earning your living. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=526.0,609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Impulse comes from somewhere else. Impulse is not really a separate entity for that-- from that point of view particularly, but impulse is just a wall where your mind's echo begin to hit. That's the wall of impulse where that echo transmit back its own reproductions back to you, what you projected back to you. If you're nasty to somebody, shall we say, and the wall begin to become also repeat same nasty word and say, \"Piss on you!\" And we tend to think that someone else said that, and we begin to have a-- [laughter] begin to attack them and we begin to have a terrible time with them. And if you say, \"Fuck you,\" and that wall says, \"Fuck you, too,\" and then we can say louder and louder and louder. And it keep on saying it until we are exhausted ourselves. That wall begin to transmit back its own messages, constantly again and again. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=609.0,673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the epitome of impulse, in fundamentally speaking. That impulse is not so much of impulse as wrongdoing, or impulse that you get yourself in an accident particularly, but impulse in some sense from the point of view that you have produced enough input, and because of that, you get what you put out in return, which is the impulse situation. That if we have a negative relationship with the world, world give us hard time too because that's what we put in. And the world returns its reflections, which is a volitional action in the Buddhist tradition of hinayana discipline of karmic consequences. Not so much of there is a guy who is trying to judge every action of that you have committed or done and trying to put you in their \"black book\", but it's just simply mechanical reactions that bounce back and forth constantly -- action and reactions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=673.0,755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And interestingly, the skillful means could come from that echo, that that's why whole thing is known as skillful means. Why skilled, why means? Is because that depends on how you put into the situation and how you want to tone your echo when it returns to you. And you can make some kind of statement when your voice is bounced on a wall. Of course, that through the transmission of your voices bouncing from your mouth to the wall and getting back to the wall to you, you begin to hear in your ears there are a lot of distortions involved. But the ideal skillful means is that you have so much understanding of the journey takes-- that places with your voice going there and coming back to you, and also the level of what kind of surface you are reflecting your mem-- your voice, whether it's a hard surface or a soft surface, and you have a complete understanding of all that situation. So skillful means becomes further feedback to be more skillful, in other word. That you have more understanding of how you project yourself, and when you project yourself properly in a very well-balanced way, bounce back, and bounce back in your favor, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=755.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that seem to be the very basic ordinary level of hinayana discipline of skillful means, and also mind. And mind has to operate at the same time. And nevertheless at the same time mind itself has its own in-built chamber of echo chambers within mind itself at the same time. You have a thought flashes in your mind, \"ding,\" and then goes \"dong,\" and it comes back to you. And sometimes the first flash is excitement and second flash is what can you do with that, and whether you can actually achieve something out of it, so our mind begin to work in circles. And then finally we decide to actually project the wall. And we make statement of *that* and it bounce back on a greater level from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=844.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the wisdom and compassion, or the wisdom and skillful means level, in the very primitive level we are talking this point, is also very interesting and powerful, very powerful. I don't think I should tell you too much and maybe you might get more confused, and so that you are unable to tell the echoes in this [UNCLEAR: ripe? right?] situation, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=909.0,941.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question and answer period is open for you, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=941.0,970.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I was wondering if there's a word for \"spontaneity\" in the Buddhist tradition. Like say someone scares you and you react, you know. It doesn't seem like that there's an echo going on. Is there an echo really going on, or is there a place where you can just react?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, [laughs] I know that personally, like if I'm scared or you know someone surprises me, and I see my body is all prepared and ready for action, you know. I don't have any-- it doesn't seem like I have time to think about it. It just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't seem to have time to think about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [Laughs] Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't seem to have time to think about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: No, I just react. I don't-- what I'm asking is if that is an echo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, but when you say \"react\", it means echo already, in the linguistic point of view, [laugh] I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Mhmm. That I've already been processed to react in this way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it doesn't take all that long you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's very fast. And as been said in the books, that aggressive moves are takes much faster speed, and that with the passionate moves it takes much slower. Whereas the passion and aggression mixed together, then becomes very frantic, because you are struggling between the slowness or the maturity of your passion or your lust, whatever, and at the same time speediness of the whole thing. So there is a conflict there, that's why you are fall in love. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=970.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In the hell realm the situation is really crowded with a lot of heat, and it strikes me maybe the situation could get so crowded that there wouldn't be room for any echoes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Echoes? Sure. The heat bounce back on you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I mean like, could it get so crowded that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not only there are two types of hell realms, which is one is extremely cold, one is also hot at the same time. But nonetheless there's-- those are not particular the issue, but issue only comes that hell realm is your own manifestation, rather than that you put in a Nazi camp by mistake.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Put which?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nazi camp by mistake. Hell realm is not like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah. So you couldn't envisage a situation where there wouldn't be room?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is no any situation in the whole of cosmos law, so to speak, where there is no bouncing back process taking place, unless it is your doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, that's well-known fact. And the fundamentally whole thing is *your* doing, rather than anybody is doing terrible thing to you, particularly, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no such thing as devil's advocate particularly, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So would you also say that if there's always an echo, then you can't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's always what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There's always an echo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always echo, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Then there's no such thing as let's say a thought or an event--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --that's pure in itself without any echo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --but your concentration is not good enough to listen to the echoes all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is a vajrayana practice, actually mahamudra practice, which we discuss much later.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But if you are constantly aware of the echoes all the time, then you are fine. But we have not enough of span of attention to stick with that anymore at all, and we constantly just dream back. We just close off the whole thing, and we daydream and we produce more, we bounce back more things, so we don't really allow anything to happen anywhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is that like solidifying, like the attempt to solidify is to ignore echoes and just see clear form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, solidify in oneself, that you would like to have an iron heart.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Iron what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That usually problem is that you would like to be solid, that your heart can't pulsate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, no blurring.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But at the same time, don't want to be-- anyone to penetrate through your heart.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1102.0,1300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there an energy behind skillful means? Or does it just kind of arise, or appear, or get discovered?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's a stupid question to ask, if I may say so. I knew you were going to to say that. It is why it is stupid is there's no confirmation. And if I said, \"Yes, there is indeed,\" then what you going to do? If you look for it, try to cultivate it, then we produce more echoes. You see what I mean? Whole thing is not really mystery, but it is very personal and direct, very personal and direct. And maybe I shouldn't say \"stupid\" but \"innocent\", shall we say. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1300.0,1362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, young lady over here. Turquoise color?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, for the last four or five months I've been breaking a lot of glass. It's been exploding in my face and just dropping, and it's just really weird. [Laughs] Is that a form of an echo? Every time it happens I have a feeling that someone is trying to tell me something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You should read this book called Tintin. [Laughter; laughs] There's one particular volume which is-- one particular edition, what you call, one particular book, says, THE SEVEN CRYSTAL [BALLS], and people keep on doing that. And you might enjoy that comic. [Laughter] It's such a great one. But what you saying anyway?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What am I saying? Well, the glass explodes in my-- practically in my face, but I never get hurt. And when it's happening it's always at a point where things seem really chaotic, and I just-- I have the feeling that a message is trying to be sent to me. [laughs] Not sent to me but something so-- something is happening but I really don't understand what's happening.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, don't try to figure it out, just watch your mind. Sit, practice. Sit and practice. That's it. It doesn't matter about glasses. You might discover that later. But read Tintin. [Laughter] SEVEN CRYSTAL BALLS, that's the title. Tintin -- \"Tintin\" [with French accent] is the French translation. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1362.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This young lady over there in green. Becky.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I feel very confused about impulse. It sounds to me as though you're saying that impulse is the echo, and it seems me as though impulse might be the projection of mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Impulse *is* projection. Yes, indeed. But nevertheless, it functions by itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I can see that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But when you say you \"projection\" usually what we think in those terms, that we think we can control the screen, if we have the projector of the movie. And if somebody says, \"Switch off that set,\" you just switch off, that the screen goes blank. But in this case it's a different kind of game. And even if you switch off this particular set of your movie, your particular thing, and the screen still goes on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So that's sort of karmic volition--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what the volition actually, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1495.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay. There's a gentleman, shiny-headed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is mind somehow separate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry? Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is mind somehow separate from situations, or is there in some sense only mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, mind is mind. And mind projecting to situation makes mind mind. Comprendo?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1574.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Red shirt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, is there an impulse to open?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well it seems that the impulses are a sort of motion that go on inside, and the motion is something that you put out and it seems to be reflected back. And some place along the line, I'm not sure whether it's a hangover from some sort of theistic training or what, but I have what seems like a goodie-goodie impulse. Not all the time, but a sort of an impulse to open and to want to make some sort of a connection.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Connection to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh, usually with another being, with another phenomenon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another being? Flying saucer? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: No, humanoids.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Humanoids.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: People.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Or animals or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, such as what? Friends, lovers, parents, dogs, cats? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, such as all of those.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All of us?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I'm wondering-- okay, my sense of what impulse was when you were talking of it two days ago--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --was that there were sets of aggregates that had to do with sort of neurotic aspects of mind, or passions --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, let us not talk about neurotic aspect of mind. We are trying to talk about what we are basically at this point. And it doesn't matter who has the \"bad\" and the \"good\" impulse, this case. Impulse is not particularly conditioned that level, at this point. Impulse is still simply impulse. And you never understand the Buddhist path if you begin to evaluate, say, \"This is your bad part of you, this is good part of you. And let us work with your bad part. And you're too bad, you're too rigid-- wretched. And you're so bad but nevertheless it's best you can do.\" That doesn't work. In the Buddhist tradition, we talk about you have what you have, whether it is known as good or bad, your particular culture, upbringing, whether it is Occidental or Oriental approach, culturally, whatever they may be. But still, very simply, it is *you* simply functioning, and that's why sitting practice of meditation -- whether Orientals sit, or Occidentals sit, or the Africans sit -- doesn't really make much differences there. It's just simply you sit and meditate.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think we have to somehow go beyond cultural and conceptual level little more than that. Impulse is good because it is connected with the Buddhist approach. And Buddhism is good in any case because Buddhism covers universal approaches anyway, so we don't have to bother about that anymore at all. [Laughter] And Buddhism *is* everything, including your cup of tea or the dog shit on our sidewalk. [Laughs] Everything *is* Buddhist experience once you begin to get into that. And I think we have to be much more brave and more respectable, and we don't have to punish ourselves by being terrible bad particularly. It is nontheistic discipline. [Looks up over his shoulder at pictures on the wall; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1622.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay last two questions. Okay? Who shall we choose? There's lots of eager students. Okay, this young man first.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, if we're projecting on situations all the time with our mind, then how are we going to go about feeling what we're bouncing off of? How is that different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't. You don't \"how.\" You don't \"how.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You mean you don't decide whether it's soft or hard particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't \"how.\" You know, \"how\" to do it comes with the wonders of the Western civilization. [Laughter] You don't \"how\" -- you *do* it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1863.0,1942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Next. There's a young lady in an orange scarf here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: As regards the wall, it would seem like there's a relationship between the wall and mirror. But you have said that the guru is a mirror.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a different category altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: A different category altogether, and-- but it's like \"mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a blank wall.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: A blank wall.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very entertaining to have a guru as a mirror and a wall is wall, and a wall is not a wall, and your projection can reflect in the mirror, and you can entertain sevenfold, tenfold. You know, if you see yourself reflecting one mirror after another mirror, you see whole corridor, whole corridor, whole hallway of each other reflecting each other, so you never see the end of it. But this case we are talking about solid, concrete wall, that way it reflects. That something can bounce back rather than something you can actually watch as a cinema screen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1942.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68424/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, that ends tonight's DDT or whatever we have here. [Laughs; laughter] What's the proper way to say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: ATS.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: ATS, right. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, good night. And I would like you to also encouraged practice and sit a lot during this prac-- discipline. If you don't do that, nothing will happen. [Laughter] And particularly, I'm referring to those people who are sort of simply guests or whatever you have, and simply just onlookers watching what's happening, and just sort of sightseeing so to speak. But you maybe not able to get anything out of it, except a complete distortion of what we are doing. So sitting practice of meditation is extremely, very important and extremely powerful. And there are some meditation teachers provided for your sake, and everything is settled that area, is it? The meditation teachers and everything. Okay, well, let's see each other the day after tomorrow, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tomorrow? Okay, tomorrow! [Laughter] See you again. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=2037.0,2196.33067"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760505VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Following\nthe other night's 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mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=39.13,45.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In some sense\nyou could say that state","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=51.14,54.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without impulse\ndoesn't have a mind,\npurely 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together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=67.05,71.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you have mind alone,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=71.01,73.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it would be difficult\nto have an impulse\nto mind the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=73.66,80.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in a lot of very rare\noccasions that that happened --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=85.22,93.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that mind brings\nimpulse along with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=93.75,98.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time,\nmind is separate from\nimpulse, nevertheless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=98.5,106.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Impulse is\nsomewhat of garbage,\ninactive, 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it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=127.34,129.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So impulse and mind\nbecome very fuzzy at some point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=129.91,136.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But however in the\nBuddhist tradition of 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direct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1343.82,1347.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And maybe\nI shouldn't say \"stupid\"\nbut \"innocent\", shall we say.\n[Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153#t=1347.4,1357.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/130935/file/245153/transcript/68425/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Okay, young lady\nover here.\nTurquoise 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