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Not handing oneself over to be saved, but includes idea of working on oneself. Stages of devotion in the three yanas (hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana), and necessity of working with a teacher in each. In hinayana, introduces one to reality; spiritual friend, \"kalyanamitra\" in mahayana acts as physician, shows us how to give, give in, give up spiritual materialism. Working with ordinary magic of phenomenal world in the vajrayana. Seeing world as it is as true devotion. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] right view of meditation, how to relate with the breath.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 28 2024 to Jan 06 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting, Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe role of devotion in Buddhism, and how it differs from conventional ideas of devotion. Not handing oneself over to be saved, but includes idea of working on oneself. Stages of devotion in the three yanas (hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana), and necessity of working with a teacher in each. In hinayana, introduces one to reality; spiritual friend, \"kalyanamitra\" in mahayana acts as physician, shows us how to give, give in, give up spiritual materialism. Working with ordinary magic of phenomenal world in the vajrayana. Seeing world as it is as true devotion. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] right view of meditation, how to relate with the breath.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260128-3797118-c026q5.mpga"]},"duration":3649.48775,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/301/058/original/open-uri20260128-3797118-c026q5.mpga?1769640704","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3649.48775,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730516VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19730516VCTR1 - Public Talk - San Francisco - Devotion in Tibetan Buddhism] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Single Public Talk entitled \"Devotion in Tibetan Buddhism,\" given in San Francisco, California, May 16th, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster made March 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: --starting Friday, and lasting this weekend, all through next week, and next weekend. For those who are interested in applying for the seminar [Nine Yanas I], they can ask after this talk at the desk at the back. Also, Rinpoche will be giving a talk on the radio tomorrow on, I think it's KPFA, at ten AM, and on Saturday evening at eight on KQED FM.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=20.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we are going to discuss tonight is question of devotion. What is devotion? Of course we could say that devotion is process in which that we could trust ourselves to a person, or dogma, authority; hand over, and then hopefully, best, we've been saved. Another form of devotion is that it's not all that subtle as that, but at the same time, it has the same kind of process, of we associate ourselves with a dogma, but we still retain our personal dignity. And at the same, time that whenever we lose our personal dignity we could resort to the original inspiration: that you are not be ashamed of your pulling up yourself as inspired or impressive person. That applies to everyday life situation as well as situation that goes on, in all time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=66.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether we are talking on behalf of Buddhism, or any other traditions, that there is always a problem, of devotion. Buddhism speaks in terms of self-help: you have to save yourselves; otherwise there's no way out. You have to give yourself in and as well as you have to help yourself. But at the same time we have a problem here, is that in order to help myself, I need inspired person to help me to help myself. So we are back to square one, in fact. And that seem to be one of the biggest problems. And particularly in Buddhism, in which that there's a lot of emphasis made on the self-helping, whereas the other traditions you might have, that suggestion is *already* provided: you have to find your leader, your charioteer, your savior. You have to find a savior and then you give in. And that's automatically presented, but this case there seem to be a problem about devotion, is that our life becomes a part of the practice, without the teacher, without the teaching. And nevertheless teaching and teacher becomes our lifestyle at the same time as well. Which is an interesting point that we might raise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=200.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The devotion-- meaning of devotion could be seen in different stages: that of the hinayana, that of the mahayana, and that of the vajrayana. And from the point of view of hinayanists' version of devotion, is to see the life situation as beginning of inspiration to relate with your devotion. And then find a master teacher who could lead you towards that understanding, to lead you into that definite understanding of how things work, as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=313.0,365.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that things, situations work-- or how they work rather, is quite definite. Our general life situation is that of birth, a life, death. We survive in those process -- birth, death, and life. We need someone to show this. That actually it is true. Otherwise we begin to think that our birth might be some kind of divine force, that we be presented to us, that we happens to be born. And also divine will, created us to be grown up. And also that it is divine will that we happens to be dying. All kinds of interpretations could happen. But in order to save ourselves from those fantasies, absurdities, that we *need* a spiritual teacher, who says \"No. That there's no other force involved with your life, except your relationship with the rest of the world. That you died because you be born; you're born because you're willing to-- you're about to die; and you're sick because you're well.\" [Laughs] It's very grim in some ways, but it's *good* at the same time. It's very solid because there's no room for speculations; whole thing's very realistic, and very sensible. But at the same time it is unaccommodating. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=365.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any kind of change that takes place, has conditional situations, in which that we've been led to believe that we have substance or stuff, basic core to hang onto; illusory belief. Which is not true; that we have nothing to hang on to. If we are as what we are, in conditioned by birth and death, sickness and old age and so forth, that we have nothing to hang onto, that we are ongoing process, constant ongoing process. We have nothing to hang onto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=525.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case the devotion is that-- to the teacher is the teacher speaks as the messengers of reality of life, realistic aspect of life. That life is real, that you are conditioned to birth, death, sickness, old age, and so forth. That you cannot escape from those things. That you are actually made out of people. [Laughs] That seem to be the one of the importance point of the having-- have a-- to have great teacher, teacher who can communicate to you that you are conditioned person who will still live in the conditional world, and the world is going to condition you, and so forth. The teacher is not afraid to tell you that you are about to die. How long you may live, that doesn't matter. You're about to die in ninety years time. You're about to die in next hour, and whatever. That you're about to die in any case. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=585.0,680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's one of the very important point, to have teacher tells you that you can't beat the time, you can't reverse time. That you have to have your sense of time, and somebody lives through that as well. This flower is precious. Why? Because this is happen to be real flower opposed to plastic one. Needs water, needs caring. In a similar way, that our life is precious, because we are not made out of plastic people -- I mean realistically. Maybe metaphysically maybe we are, but realistically nobody is made out of plastic models. Everybody has breath, blood, skin, bones. They are breathing. Everybody has decisions, ideas. That's why whole thing is very precious. It's momentum situation, that we could lose such continuity, of being ourselves, as healthy human being, has breath and has process to work yourself with. You have-- you need food to eat, your need to have enemy to arouse your aggression. You need to have a lover to make love to you, to conform-- confirm your existence, and so forth. Which shows that as much as this flower needs attention and love, that we are ordinary human being, who requires a certain amount of attention and love and *acknowledgment* all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=680.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, that's the next problem, next situation. Is that we know all things what we need, what we want, but we can't have what we want, constantly, at all. So we need something that we want but we can't have it. And we feel when we don't need-- don't receive what we want to have, then we feel we are sick. We are inadequate. We are fucked up. [Laughter] We don't receive-- we don't get what we want: \"There must be something wrong with me.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=850.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the role of a next stage of devotion, the devotion to the \"spiritual friend,\" \"kalyanamitra.\" Spiritual friend, good friend. That we need someone to tell us, that you are sick, that you are demanding unreasonably. But at the same time you inspiration of that you demanded-- demanding situations. Your inspiration to demand such a thing at *all*, is reasonable. You had some kind of inspirations to demand such a thing. Which is good, which is reasonable. But then you gone more than that: that you demand and you complained. And the end result that you demand, you complained, but you didn't get anything *because* you're complaining. Because you try *too* hard, that you don't get anything out of it. Which is a problem, extremely problematic situation. That you are sick by desires of this and that, you are absolutely sick. Your desire to get well, get well and become normal, in itself become a further cause for your sickness.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown incident or event] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=903.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anybody who search towards mahayana path are particularly sick. [Laughter] Because they search for open path, in which the great view of in which you can proceed along powerfully. You can practice the paramitas, and you can go along very easily. You can bounce around, and you can dance around in this great wide, open highway. Which is bordered with the flowers [laughter] and musical instruments, played by devis and devatas, and so forth. Very, extremely romantic: \"I have decide to serve the humanity. And in fact not only humanity but 'all sentient beings'.\" [Laughter; applause] \"I decide to become the bridge, or the boat, or the railway lines, or the highways, or the Earth. I'm going to save *all* sentient beings.\" [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1081.0,1161.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when we decide to do that we haven't considered something else, that why it had to be *you*? [Laughter] That produces the sickness -- why it had to be you. The notion of volunteer is a problem. That when you begin to volunteer: \"I'm going to drink all the poisons that exist in the world in order to save all sentient beings,\" you get it. [Laughter] You really do get it. [Laughter] You become poisoned. You get sick. And that seem to be problem where the kalyanamitra or spiritual friend is required, as a physician. That you have too much ambitious projects involved, and you had to be operated. And your operation is not enough, but your operation had to be *mutual* operation, between the doctor or the physician and yourself. That you don't have to have anesthetics. Operation without anesthetics, on order to experience the reality of really giving in to the world, to the community, to the sentient beings as such. *Real* giving situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1161.0,1278.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the devotion in this case, real devotion. That, \"I would like to give freely my holding backs, my acknowledgment of being good. Or my convictions that I think I can do it,\" and everything's been given. Devotion. Really you give everything in. As to the point that you are willing to operated on you, take out those misgivings that you might have, by anesthetic-- without anesthesia. Operation without anesthesia. Which is an open discipline -- or, for that matter, it could be said as *real* devotion, giving in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1278.0,1344.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might say that devotion is very simple matter to do, just you have to give yourself in, give out, give in, give in, give in to the teacher and the teaching. That if teacher said, \"Give me ten dollars,\" you give in. If teacher says, \"Give out your suit,\" you give in; your sports car, you give in. And if teacher says, \"Don't eat tonight,\" you give in. It's not as simple as that. I mean the whole thing, that idea of model of devotion has been cheapened somewhat in our conventional, twentieth century world, of America is concerned. The problem is that so many trips that has been happened *already*, and happen*ing* already. It's growing, it's boosting, and we are uncertain what is real meaning of devotion. Devotion means, \"Should I give everything, penny that I have? Should I give in, give out everything? Get rid of everything.\" That as if that if you remain skeleton-ed that you are good candidate for enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1344.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's not as simple as that, it's not as cheap as that at all. Even if you give in and give out, your skins and flesh, muscles, and you remain skeletoned person, still could handle your giving in situation, and it wouldn't help. That there's something that you have received in in order to give, which is the sense of responsibility in some sense; that you have received something as you give. You take pride in what you give, rather than that you feel that wretched things to get rid of. That teacher is not regarded as a garbage can. At the same time serves a double purpose: \"I get rid of my shit, and teacher will regard as gift.\" [Laughter] Oh no. [Laughter] Doesn't work that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1433.0,1539.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The real gift from this point of view is giving up, even a sense of spiritual achievement. Which is giving up spiritual materialistic tendency. That, \"If I attain enlightenment I'll feel good, I'll be good one.\" You have to give up that as well, which is extraordinarily important. Otherwise that we can get into all kinds of trips, that which we'll become worthy person, that we could become-- we learn all the trips that goes on, the trips, we could learn all the magic that goes on all the trips, that feel good and we have achieved something. Oh no. Real spirituality is that one has to give up even ambition to become a powerful person, a good person. That competing with the Buddha is a failure. Competing with Padmasambhava's magic is suicidal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1539.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The idea of magic is a very simple one. Magic, in this case, according to the true Buddhist teaching, is working with the phenomenal world. Rather than that you can turn the world upside down, or streams could flow the opposite way. That pile of excrement become food. [Laughs] Magic in this case is something very ordinary. That if we could able to transform existing world as it is again, once more, that is the magic. The world is being seen as it is. But not quite so that it's all kind of sharp edges, all kinds of sidetracks. Nevertheless world is as it is. But something is happening which makes the world a lot \"it isn't.\" That's why we are search-- we look for religions interpretation, mystical interpretations of *all* kind. That's why we are hang up with all kinds of searches and shopping and all kind of things. Where else if we could begin-- if we able to see the world is -- it *is* -- without looking for further trip, further neurosis, able to see as it is, that's the *true* devotion. In fact, we could say that what we're discussing tonight is not discussing the actual teaching as such *at all*; we are discussing that the channel towards the teaching, that how we could develop the devotion accurately, properly, so that we are in the position to receive the teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1636.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in order to develop real devotion, real adequacy, real process, is extremely important. Before we discuss any spirituality that we have to discuss the devotion, and it is important to realize that we have to accept our world before we receive the teaching -- the world that is. And also we have to also realize that the neurosis that we imposed on ourselves constantly; confusions, neurosis. That, \"I don't want to have anything to do with my work. I don't want to have anything to do with my father, my mother. I exclude everything. I'm become true spiritual person. I detest-- protest the world of money.\" \"I would like to give up my homeland, America. When I begin to think about even the business of turnpikes, which makes me unspiritual.\" \"The consequence of dishwashers is terrible. Vacuum cleaners are bad.\" [Laughs] \"This world is crazy. Whole continent is polluted. Nobody is sane, because they never heard the wisdom.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1792.0,1940.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's true, if I might say so, but that's not true at the same time. You can't just wipe out reality, just like that! As if saying that, \"I don't believe in the winter, because there should be summer all the time.\" \"I don't believe in earth; there should be sky everywhere.\" Things doesn't work that way; that is spiritual materialism. Some kind of sense of relationship that we should involve, as that you have a father, you have a mother, brother and sisters, and those are true statement of your life. That you did have those. When you were-- earlier and you did have your diapers. And your mother helped you to remove them. [Laughter] And you had to live on your mother's nipple -- or bottle, whatever. And those are the early statement of reality. That we are regarding this as a *real* mystical experience, in this case. *Highly* mystical, highly profound thing. *Real* messages that coming down. We can't ignore them, we can't disregard the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=1940.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So world is real world, *real* world. Therefore, that spirituality is also real world, at the same time. Transcending material world is also real. But believe in the phenomenal truth, as spiritual materialism -- either you're getting off or on are the same thing; becoming vegetarian, giving up eating meat. By becoming vegetarian you become another person, you pick up vegetarian\"ism.\" You have to learn new dishes, new style of cooking and so forth. If you give up wearing colorful clothes you have to learn to wear white. Which means you have to work on more washing up your clothes and more laundry, more Ajax. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2038.0,2107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we give up, we don't really give up, in the spiritual materialistic sense, we take in more. That's seem to our problem here. And devotion, really true devotion, is not as valid as that have a war with the world as at all. You don't fight with the world. You have devotion with your life situation as your spiritual friend, teacher, whatever. That you give *in*, you *open*, rather than when you give in you pick up new occupation, as such. It's much more gentler, much more open, more reasonable, extremely more reasonable. That seem to be the problem that we have faced already and we are facing on the process. That when we give up we take up a new occupation. Which is equally un-devotional thing to do. That we thought we had given up, we're open, we're divulging something, but we built up our own ego, in-- opposed to giving in. So nothing has been opened from that point of view. Which is extremely necessary and worth thinking. Something that we could work on.\r\n\r\n\r\nThank you. We could have discussions on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2107.0,2239.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, you say we are sick, and you offer devotion as a cure?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Laughter] You see the whole point is that we are uncertain how to devote our attitude, our whole being. That we are told that you are sick, that we are sick, right? Yeah? And would you believe that, if your physician would say that you had to-- that physician had to cut your body in half in order to cure sickness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't want to let your physician cut your body in half in order to cure sickness? Then it’s too bad. [Laughter] It can’t be done.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the whole point of devotion, that would you-- are you willing to let your physician cut your body half, and sew it up, and make yourself healthy person or not? If you're not, then we can't be helped.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Can you repeat the question again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Just because I'm not willing to let a physician determine the nature of my sickness, does that mean that I'm not seeking the cure and cannot be cured?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Just because I won't-- I don't-- what is it with the physician again? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Just because I won't let the physician determine that I'm sick--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, like, if I [INAUDIBLE] doctor [UNCLEAR: cut on me?]-- and had an operation on me, I fail to see the reasoning connected with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: If I'm not going to let a doctor cut on me, I fail to see the reason, you know, [laughing] for me not doing that. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He doesn't want to do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah. He doesn't want [laughing] to do it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sorry. [Laughter] There is two ways. Let you go and that you could get constantly fucked up, and get sick again and again. Or else we could catch you. And we could perform operation on you without-- what you want to do it, but still-- hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'm [INAUDIBLE] on the physical plane, so maybe I'm missing the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I'm thinking on the physical plane so maybe I'm missing the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean, you think I'm a surgeon? I'm a doctor, PhD or MD, [laughter] going to perform operation on you, and everybody who's here? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: No. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope you understand, this is a purely psychological one. Which is much more deathly in some sense, than actually physical surgery, which is much easier to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well it seems to me that there's a close connection between the physical and psychological health.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: There seems to me that there's a close-- there's a closeness between physical and psychological health.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you get a fever, tuberculosis, that's it's physical. If you freak out, that's psychological.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Also physical, because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well yeah, sure. But the physical you manifest your freak out-ness, all kinds of things, but you are still psychologically freaking out. It's very simple and ordinary.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny other questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2239.0,2555.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I understand [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Can you stand up and speak up?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I understand that you had a nearly fatal accident when you were in Britain, and I was wondering whether this psychological occurrence had any effect on the course of your life [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I understand that you had an accident when you were in Great Britain. And I wonder if this psychological effect of that accident had any change upon your life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any psychological change, which is also physical change at the same time, that my physical accident had brought me to this country in fact. That I was reserving myself as if I could maintain as somewhat in my accident-- before my accident. That I could retain somewhat situation in which that I could not able to open completely to the Western world. But implying my implication of opening to the Western world, in terms of the teaching, that my accident is obviously direct message: that this is your world in this case. That I should open and I should teach. And which is-- I regard as more than message, it's more of demonstration. That I've been pushed over the cliff. If you can't handle it will be bad luck, but if you can handle it, do so. And I been pushed out into United States, over the cliff. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2555.0,2667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In practicing mindfulness of breathing, how can you tell when practice is fading out? Like I'm not going to stop breathing, but I was told to continue to practice until the practice fades out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: In practicing mindfulness of breath, how do I know when the practice is fading out? I was told that I'd forget about the breathing, you know, after I was breathing, but I can't figure out--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I was told the breathing would-- that the practice would fade out, but I do not feature myself as ceasing to breathe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: That I don't see myself as ceasing to breathe, [laughter] and if that's-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, one of the problems is that you are not trying to win a war against anything. When you meditate you are not at war. [Laughter] You are not trying to conquer anything. You're trying to get relationship with things. Your breath, your thoughts, everything are your relations. That as such as you relate with your bed, your dining room tables, your garden, your curtains, your windows, your doors, in your house. That you don't have to *fight*, really. That breathing is one of the crutches that you have, and just work with that as crutches. And identify with the breathing and work with that. If thoughts arise let them as entertainment that comes on, but it goes at the same time, but not hold onto it. And whole thing could be regarded as very simply.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that's the one of the important point is that regarding meditation is not eccentrically important, extraordinarily important. Meditation is how to be ordinary person, with using extraordinary methods. [Laughter] It's very simple. That in other word, on the whole, meditation not trying to raise war against samsara, but trying to make relationship with samsara. Anything happens your state of being could be regarded as materials to-- for you to work with, rather than something is obstacle, as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2667.0,2824.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: After all, sentient beings have [INAUDIBLE] -- [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter] --then what are we going to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: What was that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: After all sentient beings are enlightened, then what are we going to do? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: After all sentient beings are enlightened, then what are we going to do? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go back to the samsaric world as compassionate as you can. You have to come back. Like the Ten Ox Herding Pictures analogies, that having no ox, no herd, no herder, then you come back to the world; that you can't give up. That if you been saved, or if you attain enlightenment, obvious thing is you have to come back. Do the same thing all over again. With grin on your face. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2824.0,2889.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is meditation the only means to devotion?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Is meditation the only means to devotion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. Meditation is not worship, as that we found in other religions in terms of contemplative practices of worship. But meditation is the act of devotion, that you sacrifice your time and your inner energy and your space at the same time. So without meditation that you can't attain anything, you-- without meditation there's no way out, or way *in*, for that matter. That way-- meditation said to be the only way that we could work in our practice; that is the obviously, definite thing. But nevertheless meditation does not only mean ritualistic practices alone, but that also entails that meditation in action, in which that every life situation is also regarded as somewhat workable teaching situation as well. Without being basically a religious approach; rather it's more like that of spiritual approach, of that meditation practice is being learning process, rather than being pious or good person as such. But that seem to be one of the basic point. That meditation apply altogether. Meditation practice is one of the most pragmatic way that we could relate with spirituality on the whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=2889.0,3016.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In devotion -- do I understand it right? -- we open ourselves to experience until we find that we're nothing, and that there's nothing we can possibly do to better our situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: In devotion, do I understand why-- do we just open ourselves until we find that we are nothing? And that nothing is it? Is that what you asked?]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And that there is nothing that we can-- no steps we can possibly make to better our situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: And are there no steps for us to better our situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you regard as the whole process as somewhat step of the warriors. That process is not just purely giving in because you feel wretched. You feel so poor that's why you're giving out, you feel so fucked up that's why you're giving out. But if you regard the whole giving out process as a further act of a warrior, and intensifying your energy towards enlightenment. If there's some kind of *pride* involved that's fine. Whereas if you punish yourself that seem to be wrong way. That if you trust yourself, that you can develop yourself toward that, that will be beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3016.0,3123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Isn't that just an ego thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Isn't that just an ego thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is ego? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: No answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, the whole point here is that idea is not trying to destroy ego, as a villain, but use ego as a useful stepping stone. So that ego will not only act as an inspiration to give up ego, but ego acts as the stepping stones on the path as well at the same time. So you don't have to be all that puritanical, and that you're trying to worked it out, the situation that you have learned with ego. But you always have something to do with ego in any case. Even if you're trying to be egoless. So, you can't get away from that but idea is to work as stepping stones all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3123.0,3218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is devotion the idea that when a situation arises that you would have normally reacted to in terms of defending yourself, would you simply just let it play itself out without resistance?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Is devotion like in a situation where you usually defend yourself, just let the situation play itself out without resistance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [quietly] Without resistance?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Without resistance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think something more than that, is devotion is that you are not only resist but you begin to pick up the glamorous situation that happens in your life situation -- excitement, or the challenging things that happen in your life situation, and you are including them as a part of your working basis, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3218.0,3294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I remember reading some things that you've written about frivolousness, people who walk on the path of the dharma very clearly say [INAUDIBLE] who have [INAUDIBLE] advise not to be a compassionate idiot. But it is better to push people aside rather than-- people who are frivolous just push them aside, that's the only attribute of compassion, and at the same time be true to the dharma. Can you speak a little bit about that? And also trying to relate that a little to the Sadhana of Mahakala, the idea of anger as an adornment on the path. How we as people of the youth culture might be able to integrate some of our energy, our [laughter] [INAUDIBLE], by relating to the Sadhana of Mahakala as a spiritual revolutionary?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Okay, maybe we ought to divide that into two questions, it will be easier. The first question is, in your writings and so on, you talk a lot about frivolousness, and frivolousness on the path, and I understand that you say that it's best to just get frivolousness and frivolous people out of the way, sort of push them out of the way, as a sort of-- as a compassionate-- as act of compassion. Can you say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that frivolous people have a great deal of potentials, by being inspired person. And the only thing that need is to bring down them into a solid situation. They have to face the world, in spite of being frivolous; then frivolous does not become a joke, a cosmic joke anymore. And it's question of experiencing pain and pleasure of life, without doubt, without any questioning. Which seem to be very direct. The other one is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3294.0,3426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Can you repeat the thing about Mahakala and anger? Sure-- are you sure?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah. Well what I was thinking about was Mahakala was a Tibetan siddha who proclaimed that he would resort to wrathful means to protect the dharma when compassion failed. I was wondering if you could relate that a little bit to a situation of young people against this world, when this world is often times at a situation where it's very hard to relate to it compassionately. It'd be more true to the Buddha, true to the dharma, to relate to it wrathfully, as revolutionaries.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: I wonder how you could relate sort of the teaching of Mahakala, in terms of anger as compassion on the path with the scene with young people nowadays. Wouldn't it be more fruitful to them to act with that wisdom of Mahakala, in a more angry way, as an act of compassion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the whole question of that a divine god guarding you-- guiding you as such, but exist as of things as they are, in your life situation and will take care of you. If you're going too fast, somebody will push. If you're going too slow or somebody-- I mean the other way around -- if you're going too fast, somebody will slow you down. If you're going too fast, somebody will pull you back. And if you're going too fast, somebody will pull you back. [Laughter] If you're going too fast, somebody will pull you back. So forth. [Laughter] And somebody will push [laughter] if you have to go faster. [Laughs; laughter] It's up to you! It's highly up to you. And I don't regard that as purely something that would exist in realms of magic or mystery, but things do happen that way, directly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3426.0,3601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89219/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably we should close our meeting tonight in this way, as the suggestion seem to have pushed us to stop. And I would like to welcome everybody who take part in this gathering tonight. And you've made the announcement of the seminars?\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That if anybody like to come and take part in it, we can work further. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSAM BERCHOLZ: That there are little sheets available in the back when you go out, if you missed the [announcements about] seminars and Rinpoche's other talks in this area. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=3601.0,3649.48775"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730516VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=0.72,4.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Single Public Talk entitled\n\"Devotion in Tibetan Buddhism,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=4.25,9.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in San Francisco,\nCalifornia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=9.22,11.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"May 16th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=11.89,15.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made March 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=15.35,20.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SAM BERCHOLZ: --starting Friday,\nand lasting this weekend,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058#t=20.65,24.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/165467/file/301058/transcript/89220/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all through next week,\nand next 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