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Our duty to relate to it, raise level of sanity, on level of consciousness. Has power, and involves great responsibility. A period of depression is coming to America; how we can meet and relate to that. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] how to prepare ourselves for coming depression; [Q5] nature of the depression; [Q7] whether television, film, radio, other media can help; [Q8] whether individual or group meditation is recommended; [Q16] how to go beyond rejection of nationalism and feel good about one's country; [Q18] whether America can change for the better.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 22 2020 to May 21 2021 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eHow we want to distance ourselves from American karma, but it is already part of us, cannot escape it. Our duty to relate to it, raise level of sanity, on level of consciousness. Has power, and involves great responsibility. A period of depression is coming to America; how we can meet and relate to that. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] how to prepare ourselves for coming depression; [Q5] nature of the depression; [Q7] whether television, film, radio, other media can help; [Q8] whether individual or group meditation is recommended; [Q16] how to go beyond rejection of nationalism and feel good about one's country; [Q18] whether America can change for the better.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260630-964398-wi34o3.mpga"]},"duration":3266.71674,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/455/original/open-uri20260630-964398-wi34o3.mpga?1782857190","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3266.71674,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730604VCTR2-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730604VCTR2 - Public Talk - Los Angeles - American Karma and Our Role in the Coming Depression]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, a public talk entitled American Karma and Our Role in the Coming Depression, given in Los Angeles, California, on June 4th, 1973. This is a CTI remaster made June 2026.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=0.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that we have a problem of... relating freely and not knowing what we are relating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do we have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have that problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do we have to relate-- do we have to know what we're relating to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do we have to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do we have to know what we're relating to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=26.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Strange enoughly, not. If you know that what you are-- what you can't relate with, you could relate *that* message as well. And the whole thing doesn't have to be a hundred percent good news, particularly. That you have something to say, otherwise you don't come on the stage -- that doesn't seem to be the point. And you come up to the stage because you have nothing to say. That seem to be the part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=61.0,110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean similarly that we could regard our work here as, that if there's more practice individually and more exercises relating with a group -- in this situation as well as people at large -- that seem to be-- there's tremendous open situation. Definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=110.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's usually very challenging, and that we are uncertain how far should we be going out, how far we should be communicating. But those hesitations are purely domestic problem, or purely on the facade. That if we begin to relate with, or willing to relate with, or the fundamentally that people are afraid of themselves. They forget that the-- they are begin to associate it with American karma in general. That seem to be one of the biggest problem is that we are doing extremely dangerous thing by associating, by working with the American karma in general. That every minute you sit and meditate, every minute you listen to tapes, that you are sowing tremendous seed for American karma. That you can't get away with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=165.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And personally I feel that I'm willing to take responsibility of that. But seem to be the group is some-- has some kind of hesitation that they don't want to be regarded with American karma in general. They still regard as private citizenship who is doing something very discreet, which they could get rid of whenever there's alarm set. You don't want to be get blamed. You may not get blamed if you keep secret enough to people but you can't cheat karma, karmic situation. That for the very fact we had a seminar and a public talk and we are minding American business, which are yourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=248.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very heavy thing. And I think that's one of the things that I would like to relate with people is that, whether you want to get rid of American karmic involvement and have a nice time in India, Ceylon, Japan, you still carry your American karma on your back. And whatever you do, as long as that you made commitment to any kind of relating with a consciousness level, consciousness of the mind, and a consciousness with spirituality of this country, that you are automatically trapped, that you are-- your duty is to relate with the American karma in any case, that we can't really get rid of ourselves. Even if you killed yourself, you still remain as part of American citizen, and you have a grave with your name written on it, as American citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=300.0,366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, nobody can cop out. Karmically you can't cop out, so the point is we might do it as openly as much as we can. That we do have responsibility to this country, not only to bring Buddhism into this country alone, but to minds-- to mind American karma situation of their psychological sanity. That we have responsibilities raising sanity of America and trying to work with the insanity of American karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=366.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And people seem to have tremendous lot of responsibilities, but like we have a bookshelf here that you're selling books of different ideas, which is also a very heavy-handed one, connected with American karma, that we begin to mind American karma, generally. So, that not speaking to somebody or not relating with somebody is not going to solve our problem of not relating with American karma at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=413.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it seems that that's the reason of forming-- formation of Dharmadhatu is that we set up our space of dharma in which that American karma could coincide with that situation or work with that situation. So, if you think you can get away by just eating up the cream, not drinking hot coffee, it's cheating and you cannot get away so easily. That we *should* be a good citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=454.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Good citizen\" means that somebody minds business of the nation, and we are minding business of the nation, of nation's consciousness. And that probably you could skip out if you are not here at all, right in the beginning. But [laughing] once you are here already that we can't do anything about it, [laughing] you're already trapped in American karma. That we might avoid tax payment but we cannot avoid karmic debts, at all. That no accountant going to be adequate enough to fiddle around your karmic taxation, whatever, karmic energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=517.0,576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think probably that's the basic point that we should realize that what we're doing is extremely powerful and heavy, and very contagious, very powerful. That we are taking tremendous responsibility, how small of the scale maybe, but we are doing something very big. And we relate with the American karma and also trying to re-challenge, re-channel the direction of American karma which is highly powerful, extremely dangerous thing. We are standing bottom of waterfall and trying to change its course in another direction, from the materialism to spirituality, which is extremely dangerous. That's what we are doing precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=576.0,632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, I feel that people should know about that situation. And that might have some bearings to the just keeping our own little kiosks of Dharmadhatu, little club, is not the point, but the point is the larger implication -- that everybody has a lot of responsibilities; that seem to be one very general or the basic point. That becoming a citizen... maybe we have rejected our culture and our karma, but now we are coming back, and we begin to associate within this country much more, as long as we associate with the very notion of karma. I think that's the-- one of the basic point that working with people and setting our discipline is part of that as well. How small the scales maybe, but still it's a very powerful one, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=632.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't have to be particularly solemn about that [laughter] -- we can't avoid that. Any case when we need to decide to do something. When the post office decide to print new postage stamp of little square, it changes American karma. But, what we are doing is much more than just an inch square. We are begin to affect the psychology and the basic karma, as well, so we can regard ourselves as be get on postage stamps. [Laughs] Presently we have postage stamps the size of this room. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you want to say something about that? Or discussions? Questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=751.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well evidently you-- what we're doing is not just for ourself but for everyone.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doing what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: For everyone. We're not just doing whatever we're doing, getting together once or twice a week, just for ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I mean, it's larger than just our individual group and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, I mean, you came here by using the road, breathe the air, even while you sit, meditate. All those could be taxed. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It is! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So we're minding our American karma. [Laughter] Gasoline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=890.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there some general American attitude or characteristic stance toward responsibility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, except the Americans have less sense of nationalism, pride in their own country, respect in their country, oppose to any other countries, which is resulting having things too plentiful, too big -- that it beyonds your imagination or something like that. But apart from that there is nothing particularly that the-- other nations are much more friendly to their own nation, to their own country. And Americans have less -- or on the other hand very extreme, you know -- worshipping the flag or whatever you have. America is the only country in the whole world that...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sort of founded on a distrust? I mean, that's what all those laws--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, that we have stiffen American flag on the moon. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=942.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So, should we prepare ourselves for the coming dark age?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well [laughter] not only dark age, but we should prepare for coming depression that's going to come pretty soon. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well how do we do that? Besides buying gold?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Psychological self-sufficiency.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Ah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Making friends with the cockroaches. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I'm used to being poor. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well in that same connection, there's been years and years of talk, and yet California, typically, well I guess California is going to fall into the ocean. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE] gotten news about that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds like a graceful suicide, which I don't think will happen. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What do you mean graceful suicide?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's-- it's-- it's fault of nature--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --rather that you made a mistake--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and you have to go through your own depression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1010.0,1088.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, I've always wondered what you-- how you saw the element of society in America concerning Black people and what it has to do with American karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's one of the America's sort of first import, before Buddhism came and much long after Buddhism is got into this country -- is another kind of enrichment.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But there's been such tremendous amount of *pain* involved and harm involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The harm is so great.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that's the result of pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: On whose part?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In Americans' part, that the Chinese or the Black people come out as slaves or whatever, that now they are costing more energy to regain their trust, and in order to do that, they have to come out in an outstanding way of some kind. Which is, I mean, one of those sort of circular things happens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Paying a karmic debt.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Very much. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well you're going to have to pay that for Vietnam, too [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, by no means, yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there any way to speed that up? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the paying?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No-- yeah, the paying of the karmic debt. I mean, I-- you know, it's coming, we can see it readily every day in the papers but I mean, you know, I mean can we get that, you know, go through it quickly I guess? You know...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, I don't think so. It takes its own natural course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: No little technique you want to pass on to us, huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] I don't think so. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: A little magic formula for Sarah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1088.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You said depression is coming and you pass it off like you say it's going to rain in a week or something. But it's actually, really much more significant than that, I gather.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs, laughter] I think so, yeah. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Do you [laughter] have some sense of like how soon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know -- just pure guess, maybe next three years’ time or something, I don't know. I mean, it's not going to rain tomorrow anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But you mean like the last Depression [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well is this time it's going to be *real* depression, you know, it's psychological as well as physical depression. And it seems that's what we're preparing for, this point, is to be able to cope with any kind of chaos that happens nationwide. That's why we should develop some sense of sympathy and friendship, and kind thoughts to America. That depression doesn't lead us into further stray but will give us a new message and a chance to regain our sanity in the translation of depression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Sort of like during-- in London, during the bombings, everybody was friends, [laughter] it brought them together, united them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's not the only point -- it what happens afterwards as well, how you can take advantage of that friendship--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --to further process, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: To actually change--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --the-- instead of when it's all over everybody goes back--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --to the same place--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But besides this friendship, there's also going to be a lot of hostility and mayhem, murders.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah but hostility and the murder becomes-- and more than just purely that particular murder. If there's one murder in the vicinity then it going to alarm the whole vicinity, which bring them together and greater and greater, greater. So one little move of aggression is not going to be contagious. If there's a depression with the people, they're simplified into apes at that point. That have to fight the common enemy, so there's a tremendous chance of possibilities that if we could work with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditations or Dharmadhatus. [Laughs; laughing] Whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In other words, be there to offer another way of looking at life and, I don't know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, I-- yeah, I mean that's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: We better start now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I think we better start now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughing] That's precisely what I'm saying! [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1225.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Do you think that like, the media, like television or movies can ever play any kind of positive [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could try but not great deal, seems to be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Has there ever been-- have there ever been any TV programs [INAUDIBLE] with you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I have done some-- several ones. We did quite a good one in San Francisco, a radio show, which was very fabulous, yeah. And they are willing to do it and let us use it, this particular program.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is that the one with Krishnamurti?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all, it's something called \"a radio program.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Oh, radio.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which we had a whole two hour, and an hour and a half, two hour and a half, that we could do what *we* like, absolutely, and I brought some of the Dharmadhatus there and we had a discussion, and it was fantastic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is that available?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, I think so, yeah. Yeah. Talk to Fran [Lewis].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Yes, I will.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Maybe we could do--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What about the Krishnamurti show, does that ever show?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know, I have no idea, has it been shown?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Oh, I don't know I-- is it-- can one get a tape on that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. It's-- I signed a release, and it belongs to the foundation or--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --something like that. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1418.0,1526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Why don't you think that television, movies, and other mass media can do very much?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean you can't really convince people, because there's so many people trying to convince, you know, people. And largely due to the mass media in terms of advertisement, that is become already kind of salesmanship, this become another salesmanship. Rather than you can't change people's gearshift and say, \"Now this is unlike the other advertisement -- we *mean* it.\" [Laughter] Of course everybody says that, you know, it's become the same [laughing] thing. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: But can't you affect people's lives through communication, just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You *could* do it very gently, very slowly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If this happens, sure, but it takes a lot of effort and...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Well there are, you know, there are like, the USC has an FM station and things like that around here. Maybe we could start feeding them some tapes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Keep them playing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Keep them on the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Yeah but that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: --a worthwhile project?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: I don't know. Well it helps a little. I don't know how Rinpoche feels, but just the tapes themselves, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: --just like listening here, it's so hard to really get the full impact.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think some kind of tapes they've been playing in San Francisco seem to be good, that that does not necessarily mean that tapes completely convey the message, completely clear and precisely. But at least that put us into some kind of geography.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Yeah, make us citizens--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, perspective, yeah, citizen, yeah. And maybe further tapes, or further ideas maybe acceptable because there's already credential of some kind will be set up already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1526.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rinpoche, is there a difference between individual meditation and group meditation? Does group meditation build up more [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think group meditation helps a great deal because that there is a sense of working together, and also sense of that you can't just cop out, on the spot. And individual meditation is also good, that your meditation practice goes through your own life situation, that your personal life is a part of your meditation practice as well. That you don't have to rely on your friends constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1641.0,1704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: And it's something that-- sometimes I don't really give myself enough-- that I don't see enough. There's the fact that the whole of my mind is myself, not divided into good behavior and not-so-good behavior, whatever, or ignorance and something other than [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a purely relative question. In order for you to function there had to be some other situation to function as well. And you are functioning for the very reason on the environment of-- sympathetic environment that you can function. Otherwise you can't function. That you-- that whole area, environment becomes solidified, there's no fresh air to function. So if you function, like if a goldfish function in a tank -- it's not a goldfish's function alone but the water's function in the tank as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So it's sort of saying the same thing. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1704.0,1809.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there a restaurant next door or something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is then this music?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Yes, they-- the fellows who own the shop sometimes go down at night and play music in there. He always checks with me on Monday nights to make [INAUDIBLE] meditation is usually over by ten. So then after ten it’s--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very nice of him, to check with you. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: They set off a silent alarm one night [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1809.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Rinpoche, it seems to me that America, what sets a key for most of the rest of the world these days, that American karma would actually be [laughing] planetary karma, and if America is-- goes through a great depression, that whatever evolution comes from it is going to be affecting the whole human race.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not necessarily -- that's what you've been told. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Oh no, [laughing] that's what I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean it's-- America is important work, but not all that important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: The emerging nations have emerged.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean probably Arabs get much richer without America, [laughter] and so forth, that-- without American market, you know. I mean obviously it's going to make inconvenient of American efficiency, but it's not going to be all that lopsided if America goes to depression. That's going to help the Russians, [laughter] the Russians begin to rise. And all the other things could happen. The common market might become more effective if America goes into depression. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: What might?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Common market.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Oh, yeah, yeah. That's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1846.0,1940.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: So you're kind of saying that like right now meditation groups are still kind of a far-out thing in America, or a kind of a fringe group or something like that. But to become like an ordinary part of the culture or something that's like just an ordinary-- well, not-- I don't-- well you know what I mean, just a *natural* part of the thing, or not such a strange part of the thing. That when there is a strain time or something like that, it won't be like meditators are some kind of another fringe group or something. I mean the approach could be much more--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: --just people to people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, if there's a depression or other situation happens, anything connected with the mind becomes highly important and powerful, in fact. That because people are on the verge of freaking out, they are more desperate to do something with it, and possibilities of-- whole thing becomes mind's world and physical thing cease to be important because, you know like the stories of the blackout in New York. When it happened it was about three day-- three years ago? Four years ago?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: No, longer--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: It's more like seven.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: --seven.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, I was in England by then. And there's so many psychological manifestations happening, and people begin to realize their own panic, rather than actual existing panic that could destroy them, kill them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the whole thing becomes so psychological- oriented. And that's a very interesting point here, I mean, this is sort of turning samsaric world into its own inside-out. You know, it's a very powerful situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: But then, I mean, then do you see like us as like having a really specific role in helping people maintain their sanity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure! Definitely. I mean by then, they are not refer-- they are not particularly selective as to what particular trips, particular dogmas they involved, but just some kind of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Whatever helps.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --help, that whatever you can get. You know, it's like in First Aid program. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Yeah, or as soon as they're-- everything is more suicidal, it's like New York.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, so-- they need a sort of first help, which is very important, very powerful, you know, I mean, sooner or later this depression is about to happen, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Maybe in the end of this year, some people are predicting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's the wishful thinking and-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: [Laughing] Kind of wishful thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, excitement of something, and their sort of judgmental, cunning, clever prediction that-- I think it going to take much longer than that. Definitely, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=1940.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: And you don't think that we should all like start looking for another country? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: We should--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a cop out. [Laughter; laughs] And then what have your country? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: [INAUDIBLE] It's your world, I mean... [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's the problem--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: I mean that's-- [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that Americans, that you don't like your country. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: I mean, Canada is to the north and Mexico is to the south, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: The Arabs to the East. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: [INAUDIBLE] you know much easier [laughter] to kind of wait the whole thing out some other place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Try some other places, it's not so easy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Maybe we should find some water-powered prayer wheels.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Electrical prayer wheels.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But, getting out of the country is ashamed of yourself. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2134.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Is that feeling for-- regard for country come from the same root that we talked about the bad feelings about yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. Yeah, and also the bodhisattva's practice as well, that bodhisattva is dedicated to his life and his environment -- that is his learning situation, as well. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Do you think if people really got more in touch with themselves that it is a natural progre-- to have a better attitude towards--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: --an interest in their country?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Their own country, yeah, yeah. Very much so, I mean your country is *you*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know, from that point of view it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: And Americans, more than anybody, really resist that concept. That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know! It's shocking, you know but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: --really resist that view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Americans can only mock their own country, in the other world, in the whole world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2184.0,2244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Why do we have to think of in terms of Americans? Why-- just to be better than come in contact with? I mean I never think of people as being Americans, I just think of them as people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe you're living in America.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKE42: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe because you're living in America, you have no reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: What do we have to have, a reference point? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's good! A reference point is getting to earth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Well I mean the reference point is immediate things surrounding you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah that's problem with Tibetans, because we never regard ourselves as \"Tibetans\" -- we *are* what we are. And when we begin to attacked by communist, we didn't know what we do. We attacked by some other reference point which is completely from the Mars, or from the Moon, or from the Sun. Whole thing is in completely chaos, you know, that we didn't know how we relate with ourselves. And by chance people just fled from their country, and it happens to be in India, or the border countries, but that was purely by chance, rather than any kind of strategy of studying the geography. It was-- [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: And some of them just ran right into China, right? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2244.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: I think that many of us have come to regard patriotism or nationalism as some kind of a disease, as a sickness. And that because people get very neurotically attached to their countries, say super patriots who are so identified with being Americans, and we maybe see that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's just purely reliving in the myth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Patriotism.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: --exclusive, exclusively.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and nationalism is something much more than that -- is a love of your soil, rather than love of your blood. Seem to be different from that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: But don't you think that there's also an element of that in certainly, like, an enormous disillusionment with America on the part of Americans since, say, World War II? I mean, in World War II you know it was entirely different. Everybody who's here, practically everybody, thought that America was really the greatest place in the world, and that we were right, and that, you know, my God, we were saving the world by stamping out the Nazis and the Japanese. And then, after the-- after that, it's suddenly, you know, I don't know exactly what happened, but we went through an enormous change that way. I mean, there was a kind of seeing through all the facade of America, you know, as being so upstanding and upright and righteous. And I mean you know, people started to see the underside of it and the backside of it, and that there was, you know all this prejudice, and the Blacks, and what we've done to the Indians, and just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean that's the kind of-- that comes after luxury.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you defeated your enemies -- then we come back home and we begin to realize our home is not all that good, which is like your child not liking your air-conditioned apartment. I mean that's, [laughs] you know that's kind of comes out of luxury.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: And then certainly the whole, you know, the whole Beat Generation and the-- and then the whole enormous hippie movement, I mean this was all a reaction against you know the luxury. You know, ideological and lifestyle, change of lifestyle, rejection of it, you know, the whole Acid Generation. It all espoused like honesty rather than cheating and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: The bomb had a lot to do with it, with creating a society.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah but at the same time that had nothing to do with your nation. That's nothing to do with American land, American people as such. That's just a fringe, powerful group of people working on it and creating -- in the name of America, you bomb. In name of America you do this and that, but that's-- those are the minority in some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Well I think that's a kind of self-deception that we allowed ourselves [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah but they begin to tell you that \"we are working for *you*\" and you have mass media to tell you as well. So you been deceived, then you begin thinking your country is bad, rather than those people who are freaked out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So, still there's tremendous room for develop pride in your country, and your country is not bad, you know your country is beautiful and you have beautiful people around you. But still you're being fooled by the fringe, who fight the other fringe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: But we're allowing it. I mean, we allow that, and we've allowed that several [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you be hypnotized rather than you allowed it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: You mean the fringe you speak of like the people in power.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean the fringe is-- sing-- says that \"we are speaking for *you*.\" That they have the control of the fringe of the mass media and everything, which are in fact a very minority group.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: So how about the throwing this whole thing over during the depression? Is that [laughter] what we're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you like. [Laughter] If you like. But you had to do it carefully.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Yes, yes, well. [Laughs] So… [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2338.0,2652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: It's not too long ago that we were a proud and honest people, and that a square deal, a square hand -- that's something that [INAUDIBLE] good. That the \"square\" got into the vernacular, it's not-- we're not so good. Maybe now we can get back to that. Action, reaction. Positive, negative. Swinging one way and then it'll swing back the other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: Yeah, well it certainly that's a big part of the American makeup you know which-- that whole idea, you know, that honesty, and square, and straight, and all that. Which-- and people started to see that they were being exploited by those ideas though, right? But they-- and they cherish them, that's why they rejected the whole mess so much. Maybe yeah, we can bring them back those values, certainly. So when you relate just on a person-to-person basis, when you're talking to somebody and you tell them, \"Well you know you don't really have to think that way,\" or something, do you identify yourself? Do you identify what you're talking about? Do you say you know, \"The Buddhists have a different way of looking at it\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And to further in fact that the-- what you think in majority is a very minority section with society, who impose their trips on the majority.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: What you think of as the majority--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: --are actually a small minority imposing the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: --imposing the idea of majority--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: --onto the rest of the people. The \"silent majority\" in other words is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: --is the myth that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That-- yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER50: --is-- we're all being tossed around by.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. [Laughs] Getting political rap.  [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2652.0,2771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: Do you have any hopes for this country? I mean...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure I do! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: I meant do you have any hopes -- I mean do you have any *specific* hopes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What should that be?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER51: Any, I mean, beginnings of possibility of changes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, America is the only place where change takes place so quickly, so rapidly, than in any other country -- that's for sure. That's why we are having so violent convulsions happening all the time. That *is* the-- that's why whole thing is very fertile ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER52: In other words, isn't it a totally chemically unstable state, and you could throw a catalyst in, it can change it all just like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah. Precisely, yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER53: Well then, people are geared in this country to appreciate excitement, so with any excitement of any kind, whether it's depression or whatever it is that they're interested in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean they probably wouldn't want get into depression while the country is going through a depression because there's so many quick changes happening. But fundamentally I don't want to leave this country while the depression is happening -- I would like to stay and watch what's happening, [laughing] personally anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: Wouldn't it be less materialistic [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Highly materialistic at the beginning, and then less materialistic, more psychological, freak-out nature, question anybody what is reality, what isn't reality. And then probably able to regain our thing, which doesn't seem to happen pretty soon but, it's going to happen within three years.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: Which is maybe why the Christians-- the Christian movement attracts a lot of people because they really talk doom all the time. They're very exciting, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER55: --better make the peace now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER56: The Jesus freaks, yeah, they're really heavy, aren't they?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER54: Well Rinpoche is offering hopelessness, that's almost as exciting. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2771.0,2934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19] \r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: Rinpoche, do you think there will have to-- or there will be some bloodshed-- or have to be bloodshed or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: Do you think that there will be a lot of bloodshed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: A lot of drama?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But I don't think tremendous ones, because people already intimidated by their living situations. And they could blame to the authority at some point, but then begin to realize authorities are also [UNCLEAR: helpless? hopeless?]. You know, they might hold a grudge against it but if you trying to do something, that's going to affect their own personal life as well, so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER57: They don't blame somebody else with their lives.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think depression is a mostly peaceful time of all that they could create in America.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER58: How about the-- how about-- I mean I've heard all kinds of rumors and I suppose a lot of people have, that you know the Blacks are preparing just open warfare, and are heavily armed, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: People are getting--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: But what--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: --retreat houses and-- [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: --what chance would, you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER59: -- stocking up dried food.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER60: --would it-- against the, all the police--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER61: Yeah, whoa, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: --and the National Guard.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER61: --no telling, but I mean if that really happens I mean what-- I mean they might atom bomb Harlem, you know. I mean it would certainly be a lot of blood.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, I mean that's people looking for mystery.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER62: Uh huh, being with [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think once man got on the moon, that's very disappointing that we don't have any more fantasizing there will be a city of gandharvas, city of gods on the moon. That's created further aggression. That now whole world is, whole solar system is a boring place, [laughter] and people will love to create-- looking for all kinds of things. But I don't think they really mean it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER63: That's what some of us are doing right here, too. [INAUDIBLE] excitement. But all these terrible things about the country and whatnot, all the countries are the same. There might be differences but basically, as far as facing our problems of life situations, there are cultural differences undoubtedly, but the greed and pain and everything else is the same. We have to struggle through.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To say the least. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=2934.0,3091.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER64: Rinpoche, on a couple of occasions [INAUDIBLE] about you know, people enjoying catastrophe or [INAUDIBLE] why you enjoy your neurosis. I mean it's-- you indicate some kind of a love of catastrophe, but I mean is that something--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's happening right now. People love to help you, if you are-- your house got burned down, or people will love you if you have a short circuit in your electric system, and telling you that you are electrician, you could help you, and \"I'm electrician, and I could help you. I'm, you know, carpenter who could build you.\" People like that kind of reassurance to themselves, as well as situation, you know, I mean that's happening constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER65: Does that apply even in a more purely psychological field?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More than purely psychological field, yeah. As well as psychological field.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER66: But what is that? I mean, what is it about a person's [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, they are uncertain of themselves, and they need some kind of reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER66: So, it's a need of some affirmation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER67: So we're going to bring this whole depression on ourselves in this country? By, in a sense, by loving it so much?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then real measure begin to comes up when the country is already depressed -- how are we going to work with it? Dharmadhatu is [laughing] going to stay. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER68: Could move to the land, and plant potatoes or something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=3091.0,3213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94993/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should stop our happening tonight -- getting midnight, precisely. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER69: Auspicious.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [background chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=3213.0,3266.71674"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730604VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=0.86,3.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a public talk entitled\nAmerican Karma and Our Role\nin the Coming Depression,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=3.14,8.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in Los Angeles,\nCalifornia, on June 4th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=8.15,14.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI remaster\nmade June 2026.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=14.22,19.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that\nwe have a problem 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to--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=47.43,48.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have\nthat problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=48.98,50.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Do we have to relate--\ndo we have to know\nwhat we're relating 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well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=68.79,78.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole thing\ndoesn't have to be a hundred\npercent good news, particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=78.13,87.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you have something to say,\notherwise you don't come\non the stage --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=87.14,93.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that doesn't seem\nto be the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=93.94,96.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you come up to the stage\nbecause you have nothing to 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Definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=136.8,145.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's usually very challenging,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455#t=165.07,167.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/174032/file/313455/transcript/94994/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that we are uncertain\nhow far should we be going 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