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Describes clinging to confusion as means of avoiding open space. The god realm is the most sophisticated of realms, focused on achieving spiritual absorption, \"high\" meditative states, \"self-development.\" Meditation is \"mind made\" rather than genuine. Prevents communication, compassion. The bliss, emptiness, etc. of the god realm ultimately they fall apart, bringing intense disappointment, and falling into other realms. Thus samsara continues. In Q\u0026amp;A: [Q1] Release from six realms involves reducing one's speed through meditation; [Q11] Listening to descriptions of six realms leads to teachings coming back to us when we need them; [Q17] \"Scriptural knowledge\", tested by lineage, becomes part of our own \"earthy\" existence that we then communicate."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Sanity We Are Born With","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part 2, Chapter 2: The Realm of the Gods\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 2: Styles of Imprisonment: Self-Absorption\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE SANITY WE ARE BORN WITH: Part 2: Mind, Chapter 12: The Six Realms: Self-Absorption\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-sanity-we-are-born-with-1298.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 24 2023 to Nov 20 2023 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Characterizes all six realms in the bardo as involving some form of effort to maintain \"solid ground\" of ego. Describes clinging to confusion as means of avoiding open space. The god realm is the most sophisticated of realms, focused on achieving spiritual absorption, \"high\" meditative states, \"self-development.\" Meditation is \"mind made\" rather than genuine. Prevents communication, compassion. The bliss, emptiness, etc. of the god realm ultimately they fall apart, bringing intense disappointment, and falling into other realms. Thus samsara continues. In Q\u0026amp;A: [Q1] Release from six realms involves reducing one's speed through meditation; [Q11] Listening to descriptions of six realms leads to teachings coming back to us when we need them; [Q17] \"Scriptural knowledge\", tested by lineage, becomes part of our own \"earthy\" existence that we then communicate."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/024/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730820810","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1730820793_19711227VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3577.57388,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/024/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730820810","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/256/024/original/1730820793_19711227VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1730820796","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3577.57388,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711227VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711227VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - The Six States of Being - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled The Six Realms [ed: States] of Being, given in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Two, \"Realm of the Gods\", given on December 27th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made July, 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on The Six Realms of Being, second lecture, on the realm of the gods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=0.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have discussed yesterday, in the basic, introductory idea of bardo experiences, would provide some common ground to the subject we're going to discuss today. And each experience of psychological hangups, or extremes, have a pattern of its own, and that pattern is-- could be seen as distinctive characters of their own qualities. In other word that in the human realm, or the realm of gods, that certain familiar desires and certain familiar longings, as well as the occupation of realm of hell, or the hungry ghost realm, there's a kind of fascination to maintain oneself constantly, and not give up, or give in, to any possible spacious situation, in which there is no dualistic clingings doesn't apply anymore. So there is a great deal of grasping and holding and there is a great deal of trying to maintain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=36.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And willing to stick to the confusion, and making that as a habitual pattern of everyday life. Which seems to be one of the occupations of ego, because the confusion provides tremendous stable ground to sink into. Or confusion also provides tremendous experience of a way of occupying oneself. So that is why it seem to one of the reasons that there is a continual fear of giving up, or surrendering, stepping into open space, and meditative state of mind, seem to become very irritating, because one is quite uncertain how to handle that *wakeful* state, and therefore one rather run back to one's own prison rather than release from your prison cell. So that confusion and suffering is become an occupation; often quite a secure or delightful situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=196.0,314.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of realm of gods, that that confusion has taken more genteel or sophisticated shape. The fundamental idea of realm of gods is that of dwelling on the spiritual ideas of some kind; that you have meditative absorption of some kind, which is largely based on the ego or spiritual materialistic approach. And that basic approach of spiritual materialism provides the framework of occupation. Such meditation, or meditative practice, had to maintain itself in the situation of dwelling on something.That is to say that finding the particular topic of meditation: how profound, how high it’s may be seemingly profound, seemingly high it may be, but at the same time it has a solid body, rather than transparent. And that meditation practice is based on, to begin with, tremendous preparation, or one could call it self-development.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=314.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Self-development in meditation is acknowledge that you are going to practice meditation as a way of dwelling yourself along with the ego. So in order to find a place to dwell, it's not so much of creating the solidness of the place as such, but it is at the same time creating the self-consciousness of the dweller as well. There is tremendous self-consciousness. Like if you are walking on slippery ground, icy ground, that you see the ice is in itself is not slippery, it’s just icy, but immediately when you see ice as it is, you think-- associate it with it’s slippery, which is self-consciousness of, \"If *I* walk on this ice, therefore *I* will be slippery, I’ll be falling down.\" So ice has nothing to do with slippery at all. But it’s that we are walking on this particular block of ice, therefore it will be slippery to us. So in the same situation, that the-- what we try to get hold of in terms of meditative experience is not so much of the experience but it is, \"I am going to experience this particular experience.\" So therefore it is automatically self-conscious of it. So therefore one is less conscious of the meditation, and more conscious of the meditat*or*. So that's dwelling on the self.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=436.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one could apply all kinds of practices along with this path, such as like self-absorption of limitless space, and self-absorption of limitless consciousness, and self-absorption of even non-dwelling, temporarily non-dwelling, and self-absorption of complete emptiness. And all kinds of state of mind, all kinds of state of meditation could be experienced, or manufactured by the self-conscious mind as definite thing as such. So because of that then therefore meditation becomes mind-made, or manufactured, pre-fabricated. And moreover that meditation practice that could include dwelling on a particular technique, of repetition of a mantra, or visualizations of all kinds, are also connected with that dwelling process, because one is not completely absorbed into the mantra, but *you* are doing the mantra, and one is not completely absorbed into the visualization, but *you* are visualizing. The basic criteria is based on \"me\" and \"I am doing this.\" So there is self-consciousness of the meditation practice, which leads to the realm of gods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=562.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by no means that this isn’t at all a frivolous effort. You do get extremely dramatic results out of these, if you are completely into it. Extremely dramatic results. Certain bodily pleasure, absorption, physical bliss, and also mental bliss, because that we try to get into ourselves with ourselves, so it is extremely crowding situation, that you and your projections are put into one bag, and trying to pushed as much as hard as you can. So having pushed, having forced somewhat into trying to fit ourselves into one particular bag, makes us dizzy, obviously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=693.0,769.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quite possibly physical symptoms of all kinds of that kind of meditation of realm of gods occurred in our state of being biologically. Things been referred as being the sound of infinite universality, or whatever it’s may be. Obviously you do hear of your *own* sound, which by that moment is uncertain whether it is universality of sound or whether it is universality of yourself. It's based on the neurological setup of trying to hold on to one basic situation, one basic principle. So there's a tremendous confusion between sound current yoga practice of ego-type or it's a real transcendental type; it's very hard to distinguish that point. And the sound current vibrations could be heard as neurological buzz in our heads, [laughter] or for that matter neurological vision provided from extreme tension is put on centralizing into one thing, and trying to fit projections and projector into one square corner, square situation, of particular pigeon holes automatically brings kind of self-hypnosis effect. That of neurological vision or neurological buzz could be heard or could be seen, could be perceived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=769.0,896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the same as that these experiences of limitless space, limitless consciousness, is because seen as limitless because you are trying to lay concept of \"limit\" on it, which is the moderator is you; therefore you seeing things as limitless, because moderator can't reach beyond certain things. So moderator decide to let go slightly, beyond its reach, so-- reach, so it becomes limitless space, or limitless consciousness. Or limitless emptiness, whatever’s may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=896.0,936.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the result of those tremendous hard work and effort, on the dwelling on ego, provides, literally -- psychologically and physically -- gets high. Completely intoxicated into extreme way of pushing ourselves, demanding something from ourselves, or dwelling on ourselves. And that kind of situation is source of living in the realm of gods, is the mostly the ego's version of spirituality or the spiritual materialism, seem to be the starting situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=936.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also the other type of spiritual materialism, or other type of, rather, realm of god concept is that any kind of seductive situation, any kind of seduction, that had happened, that happens with the living situation of all kinds: healthy, pleasurable, beauty, and all kinds of things been taken into consideration, and trying to dwelling on *that*, is dwelling on the realm of gods. Which is-- the differences between just reaching in the realm of gods and just enjoying pleasure, is in case of realm of god’s experience, in terms of bardo experience. You see in the realm of gods you have struggle, fear of failure, hope of gaining. You built up, up, up to crescendo. It is manufactured out of hope and fear. One moment you think you are going to make it, and the other moment you think you are going to fail it-- failure-- going to be failure. Alternation of those two extremes built up such tension, such a striving process, which is something more than just discipline in the transcendental or the paramita sense, sense of paramita.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=984.0,1100.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So because of these ups and downs occurred in our state of being, because they mean too much to us, *so* much to us, and we go up, up and up, and down and down and down. So ups and downs, all kinds of \"This is going to be end of me\" or \"This is going to be the first starting point of my development, or my achievement, ultimate pleasure\", whatever’s may be. So that takes place constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1100.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally, in the final stage, one begin to lose the point of hope and fear. Hope becomes more likely fear, and fear becomes more likely hope, because one’s been struggling so much and one’s begins to lose track of what is hope really, what is really fear, altogether. One begin to lose track of it; who's going, who's coming, while one's speeding so much, one gets into *extreme* chaos, of losing the track of who is against and who is for us. And there's a moment of sudden flash, in terms of egohood, bewilderment, confusion. That pain and pleasure becomes one, completely that moment. And suddenly the meditative state, of dwelling on ego dawns on us. Such breakthrough. Tremendous achievement. And then the pleasure, or the bliss begin to saturate in our system, psychologically and spiritually, or physically. You don't have to care any more about the hope or the fear, because we have achieved something. And quite possibly one could believe that achievement is the permanent achievement of enlightenment, or whatever you like to call it, or union with the god.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1133.0,1241.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That moment, everything what we’re seeing seem to be beautiful, loving. Even most grotesque situations of life seem to be heavenly. Anything exist in terms of an unpleasant or aggressive situation of life, is also seen as something extremely beautiful, because we have achieved oneness with ego. Or in other word ego lost its track of intelligence. Absolute ultimate achievement of bewilderment. The ignorance, the *depth* of ignorance, the spirituality of ignorance. Extremely powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1241.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I read once a quotation in a Communist Chinese magazine, with a portrait of Mao Zedong. And underneath it says, \"Mao Zedong’s inspiration is a spiritual atom bomb.\" [Laughs] It's that kind of spiritual atom bomb. [Laughter] Self-destructive, as well as destructive in terms of relating with the rest of the situation of life as such: in terms of compassion, in terms of communication, and also in terms of stepping out of the bondage of ego. Whole thing seem to be-- this kind of approach of realm of gods is purely stepping in, going in and in, and churning out more and more cords or chains to bound-- bind yourself more and more. More that practices goes, that much bondage we’re going to create. According to the scriptures that it is been used the analogy is be used as a silkworm binding itself, producing silk thread, and finally suffocates itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1309.0,1420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we could say that realm of gods have two situations. One is the spiritual aspect of self-destructive, self-hypnosis quality. The other one is the extreme search for pleasure, mentally and physically. And because of such striving goes on all the time one begin to lose the point, or one begin to become accustomed to struggle. And one begin to learn to moderate your determination, and one begin to accept what is given to you; one begin to become sensible, in some sense. Because achievement of pleasure is limitless, there's no end to achieve something. So one begin to make a happy medium, trying to make a happy medium, or moderate, trying to be sensible and trying to dwell on the temporary situation of happiness, materialistically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1420.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those kind of two types of realm of gods. Both are pleasure-oriented -- pleasure-oriented in entirely in the sense of maintenance of ego. But the very thing which makes-- that you are in the realm of gods, is that losing the track of hope and fear. We could see it in terms of spiritually, or we could see it in terms of worldly concern. Both cases, in order to achieve such achievement of happiness, of such experience of realm of gods, is based on that particular experience of losing track who is searching and what is our aim and object and goal. But trying to make the best of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1502.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also it is could be seen in terms of worldly concern, sort of social situations as well. That at the beginning we were searching or looking for happiness, but then we begin to enjoy the practice towards happiness as well, at the same time. And trying to relax into the-- towards the practice towards happiness, on the way to achieve absolute physical pleasure, or psychological comfort. But on the halfway to achieve such comfort and pleasure, at the same time begin to give in and begin to make best of it. It's like adventure is being also used as a vacation or holiday; on the way to your adventurous journey of the actual ultimate goal, but at the same time you use every step, every journey is regarded as also vacation, holiday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1569.0,1649.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So realm of gods is therefore... doesn't seem to be particularly painful, in its own actual situation is concerned. But most painful situation of realm of gods is that you thought you have achieved something spiritually or worldly concern. You're trying to dwell on that, and suddenly something shakes, suddenly realize that what you're trying to achieve doesn’t going-- isn't going to last forever at all. Such as like spiritual absorption and a meditative absorption becomes certain stage, very shaky. You thought you have achieved, you thought you're continuously going to enjoy this blissful state. But at some stage that blissful state begin to become shaky and more irregular, rugged, and thought of maintenance begin to come into the mind, and trying to push oneself back to this blissful state. But the karmic situation brings all kinds of irritations to it. And at some stage one begin to lose complete faith in that blissful state. And sudden violence that you've been cheated, that you realize you can't stay in this realm of gods forever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1649.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when karmic situation begin to shakes you up, and begin to provide external situations to-- that you have to relate to, then whole process becomes disappointing. Either in terms of disappointment, or in terms of anger towards that person who put you into such journey. And one begin to condemn oneself or the person who put you into that. And the sudden anger seem to turns you around: either you end up being anger-- your anger is developing as the hungry ghost-like anger, or anger like realm of hell, or anger like human beings, or anger like jealous gods, asuras. So you develop all kinds of angers and disappointment, that you've been cheated, so you go back to all kinds of other six realms-- or other five realms of world. So you go on and on and on. And some stage you might come up to the realm of god again. But then same disappointment takes place and then go down again and comes up again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1740.0,1816.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's what's called samsara. [laughter] Literally means-- samsara means continual circle, whirlpool; the ocean which spins around again and again. There’s no end. So that’s the-- seems to be one of the state of bardo experience is based on that kind of experience. And that experience of bardo has the qualities of... you are in the no-man's-land somehow, in terms of our daily experience, as well as experience after death, before next birth.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1816.0,1892.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, I didn’t understand that, you said last night that the transition to buddha realm is [INAUDIBLE] only that kind of situation. But it seemed like you were putting yourself into that transition period. You know like it's kind of-- it's like-- it seemed like you really want-- I mean how long do you stay at that point when you come to the frustration point, and the disappointment builds up and you just stick there and-- ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on the force of your struggle, how violent it is. And the more you’re violent, more you’re forceful, more you're speedy, that much you’re spinning around, so that when you get dizzy. So you make yourself into the-- introduce yourself into the bardo experience of six realms of world. It’s depends on your speed. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1892.0,1957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Is it necessary to experience all the six realms before there's the possibility of release?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, it's not [INAUDIBLE] necessary, by any means. Whole thing is useless, you could say. [Laughter] But it happens, you know, constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So, if we see our meditation leading towards that, should we just go with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, you have to have confidence in yourself, and your practice, and you have to have clear perception. And then one automatically knows how to work with yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=1957.0,2014.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it would be possible to go through the complete entire spectrum of bardo experience, and know the whole thing but still not be able to stop it? I mean, be aware of the whole process and still not be able to stop it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it is possible that you could only able to stop, or slow down, only at the point of the journey itself, journey towards making of crescendo. I mean at the moment when you are speculating between hope and fear, that kind of moment you could slow down, which is happening usually with us. But once you’re on the fruition of it, it is very hard to stop it, it's like trying to redirect the course of arrow when it's on its way already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2014.0,2080.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you're helpless!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's helpless situation at that point. It has been said even the Buddha cannot re-- cannot change or interfere with your karmic fruition. You know, it is impossible to do anything once you are on it, once you’re in all these realms. And these realms what we are talking is some kind of psychological state of madness. I mean six realms of world in the human situation is that you are-- you got yourself into such a heavy trip that you don't hear somebody trying to help you. Or you don't see anything at all; you become completely deaf and dumb. And that's kind of a neurotic state of being that one’s managed to get oneself into. In the living situation, in this life particularly, seem to be the subject that we are talking about. Rather than particularly that six realms of world are out of death at all. It’s the realms of god that we are talking about, in this case is also that daily living situations is what we are. And the six realms of world could be said as six types of... psychotic states.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2080.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Would you say that when first a bodhisattva vows renounce enlightenment, and he's still be stuck in one of these kind of states, he's even in the realm of death--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Well, a person on that-- on that one point, that he renounced, mean, like it's really renounced the whole idea of being enlightened or whatever, getting off the six realms. But I assume that he'd be in one of them [INAUDIBLE] the realm or the gods, at that point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you are bodhisattva, you're supposed to be out of those, because--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Then what are you renouncing if you are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you are renouncing to attain enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2205.0,2256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What's the difference between being out of the six realms, and enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well six realms of-- out of six realms of world is intermediate state. Or you could be in the situation of came down from one realm, and just about to enter into another realm, which is still part of the samsaric circle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And where is the bodhisattva?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the bodhisattvas could be that state of no-man's-land, that you’re not connected with either of six realms, or the, for that matter, the idea of enlightenment. But he is directed towards enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2256.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, seem to be there’s two kind of definitions of bardo at this point. Bardo is an in-between experience, is that when you are-- when you actually on the six realms of world itself, is that you are in bardo state. The sidpa bardo is described as the bardo of existence, that you’re on it, you are in it. But in terms of intermediate state, you could say that it is kind of relative bardo state. But not quite a definitely fixed bardo state, as you are in six realms of world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So there would be a difference in that in one you couldn't prevent yourself from going into the others, just like a psychotic change, and in the other....\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right. And the other one is something can be done about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So in this life something can be done about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In this life something can be done about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, this life contains all of those. The extreme, and helpless situation, and also hopeful situation, that you can do something about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2301.0,2386.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What can you do in the helpless situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you do? In what situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: You said there’s two situations: the helpless, when it’s coming to the point where you can't do anything--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can’t do anything at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And the karmic pattern just carries out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Karmic pattern just carries out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: At the other point, when there *is* hope, what do you do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you trying to reduce your speed, of jumping into one extreme to the other extreme.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How do you do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, all kinds of disciplines, like meditation for instance. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2386.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But when you’re at the point of hope, then we get to that thing of hope and fear again; we’re just on one of those swings, the hope part of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you have to reduce that as well. I mean the hope cannot be regarded as achievement. If one is regarding hope it’s also one of hangups. Then fear also becomes one of the hangups as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It’s said in the biography of Milarepa, it said that anybody who hears his name, won't fall into the four realms of samsara for seven lifetimes. And then it's said it's a karmic pattern can’t be changed.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE] in the biography [INAUDIBLE], in the Western translation of the biography of Milarepa; I think it's in the fifth--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] It seems to be part of his magical something-or-other.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on [INAUDIBLE] his name. [Laughter] It is, I mean if you *hear* it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2425.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, how can one tell if one is slowing down and relaxing or just tripping out [INAUDIBLE] as the way out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How one is--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How can you tell if you're slowing down and relaxing, or just making that as another thing of achievement? In other words, if that's what you have to do in order to get out, then it's-- it could be very confusing. It seems like you're relaxing, but really you're just doing it to achieve. I mean, you’re not really relaxing, you're--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the idea of relaxation, what does it really mean? If you are really relaxed, in the fullest sense, you don't have to watch yourself relaxing. You just happen. Relaxation just happen. Because you are fully being there, you don't have to maintain your relaxation as such. You are just there, being there completely. Whereas the other case, that you are trying to maintain yourself in something. If there’s maintenance of your relaxation, then that seems to be hypocritical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2525.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Rinpoche, it's very fascinating for us to listen to you describe the six states of bardo or whatever, and exciting. But how do you as an instructor or a spiritual friend think that it helps us to listen to these descriptions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose that the whole idea of listening and learning is based on relating with ourselves, constantly. I mean it is quite possible that some people in this audience actually not hearing the whole thing at all, just taking part in it -- very graciously. And the words sort of passes through their mind -- bypasses rather. [Laughs] But in some situation of their life struggle, that these situations of these words they heard, sort of comes back again: sudden flashes comes into their mind. They begin to suddenly such sentences, such ideas could be dawn on their mind, suddenly. But whenever it's needed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo it seem to be that kind of situation, that all the time, whatever you heard, whatever you understand, becomes applicable on the time, rather than deliberately trying to apply instruction-like. I mean, the six realms of world is, and all these ideas is rather-- in this case, it's rather speculative situation. You know, rather than like discussions on how to meditate, and things like that seem to be more realistic. But nevertheless, these speculative ideas also suddenly comes into our mind when the situation need it to, to flash into the applicable situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. So we don't necessarily have to *do* something on the basis of what we hear, it's just the flash itself is helpful.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be the way. But at the same time it is also good to understand the intellectual aspect of the teaching as well. Which is obviously very important; that we can't just abandon everything into purely practice and not study. So, if anybody’s seriously thinking of, you know, getting into the path and practicing, you have to know the scholarly, intellectual aspect equally as much as possible as the practice as well at the same time. So that you may help inform others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2616.0,2790.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, in THE JEWEL ORNAMENT OF LIBERATION, on the section on karma, Gampopa talks about wholesome states of mind. And in doing this he mentions the-- these meditative absorptions like limitless space and limitless consciousness or something, describes them as leading to, quote, \"wholesome states of mind.\" On the other hand, you seem to regard them as something-- almost leading to something pathological, or at least useless. And is there any sense of that-- I mean why does Gampopa call them wholesome?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that they actually-- he describes it in great detail in terms of describing the six realms of world. When he describes the realm of the first jhana and second jhana, and third and fourth jhana, and the formless gods, and their experience based on the limitless space, [INAUDIBLE] experience of meditative state. But these practices could be based on egolessness practice as well, which could be said as wholesome. Whereas the difference between wholesome and in-wholesome is-- unwholesome is based on how you relate with your ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: In other words, limitless space [INAUDIBLE], for instance, could be either ego [INAUDIBLE] or non-ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be possible, yeah. Otherwise-- I mean these four practices also regarded as a foundation, or the common ground. In Tibetan word it's called \"thunmong thekpa\", which means the vehicle of the common ground, where you develop training of your mind to begin with, but with one condition of absence of ego practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Whether you do that practice in an ego or egoless way is dependent on your-- it’s your decision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I mean I can decide to sit down and meditate, but I had always thought that whether it would be ego quality or egoless was more or less a function of what happened.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not quite necessarily could be-- we can’t say exactly decision, as such, but it seem to be a continual successive situations. And largely the whole idea of if you have a competent teacher, who is not on all his ego trip at all. In other words he wouldn't become competent. [Laughter] And such egoless spiritual friend could relate with your egolessness, because he’s egolessness-- egoless himself. I think that's where the basic point of begin to arise, the need for guidance begin to arise, definitely. You need example, you need someone to inspire yourself, so that you can afford to step out of ego without doing too much damage to yourself. And that kind of inspiration is the most important, and that seem to be the starting point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: What do you mean by too much damage--? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=2790.0,3032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What’s the difference between, like, just ordinary everyday kinds of impulse, you know, feeling, thought, that are, at least in the skeleton, very much like the six realms of the world, you know? But they're much less intense. In other words, all the time you're getting thoughts and reactions and feelings that, when you look at them, they really *are* like the six realms of the world; I mean you can see the different divisions, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, because you have these potentials in you all the time; that's why you could get into such a state if you work yourself up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But it’s-- once you get on that-- when it becomes so intense that you’re locked into your-- that you’re always--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Completely, yeah you’re completely stuck then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=3032.0,3092.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Aren't you always in a bardo state, always?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Aren’t you always in one of those states [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not necessarily. There could be a state of mind which is loose, and filled with junctions, all the time. I mean, that's the fertile ground, which where a person could hear the teaching. But once you're on those six realms of world, fully and thoroughly, you become deaf, so you can’t hear the teaching at all. So you can't direct it anywhere; you are just stuck there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: What do you mean by \"filled with junctions\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Alternatives, possibilities of giving up or taking on-- taking off. I mean possibilities of let yourself be inspired, or possibilities of let yourself be seduced. These kinds of junctions happens constantly. With-- of course, with ideas of the element of the six realms of world in it as well. But [laughing] you're not fully being in that. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=3092.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Rinpoche, in The Tibetan Book of the Dead seminar you talked about various realms. I got the impression that the human realm was the realm of possibility, because it’s the realm of [INAUDIBLE] and stuff like that. And it seemed like the other realms were very fixed. Once you were in one of those realms you had this-- it’s like the arrow, or the notion there’s nothing you possibly could do. If that's true, what psychologically is in human realm, that there’s more possibilities to get out it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean this case what we are talking is we are talking all the six realms are being fixed extremes, so the human realm is also fixed extreme. But in terms of a general situation, that the experience of six realms of world could be felt only in the human realm, as we are doing. And those junctions things we've been talking about, is seem to be the attributes of the human realm, in that sense. But then you could get into human realm-- of human realm, which is extreme case. You can get stuck in it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024#t=3190.0,3274.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138136/file/256024/transcript/72375/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: With those junctions again, as soon as you choose one and leave another one, don't you start to eliminate that point of junction? In other words, I mean we can only have possibilities when we're not moving. As soon as we move, we eliminate some of the possibilities.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's why you can get-- step out of all those extreme cases.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: By not moving?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By realizing the possible inclination toward the next extreme case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: From not choosing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't have to choose, but it comes to you. Well these six realms of world are just presented to you. The extreme search for sensual pleasure, of realm of gods, or the extreme case of anger of the realm of hell, just present to you by a succession of coincidence, seemingly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: If you want to stay cool...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can't stay cool. [Laughter] Just-- you can’t stay cool, but unless you have some practice of training of your basic mind, through the discipline of meditation or things like that. 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