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In the process, conveys essential principles of vajrayana. Describes the \"Great Heruka\" as creator of the five herukas, wrathful manifestations of five buddha families, and their consorts. The \"gauris\" are activators of specific energies that push you back into nowness, \"messengers\" that communicate between body and mind, and encourage letting go of self-preservation of ego. Tells mythical story of origin and subjugation of Rudra, egohood. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains how appearances in bardo are projections of mind, that same experiences happen in everyday life. Describes higher beings as consciously choosing to take rebirth, and enter womb with no confusion. Suggests that for them, there is no choice but to come back, as compassionate action.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Tibetan Book of the Dead","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD: Commentary: The Wrathful Deities (edited excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-tibetan-book-of-the-dead-1540.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 08 2019 to Dec 06 2023 Transcribing: Harry Einhorn Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ella Milligan Terminology Review: Mark Nowakowski Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick, JP Glutting\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA short but detailed, somewhat esoteric and traditional description of the wrathful deities that appear after the eighth day. In the process, conveys essential principles of vajrayana. Describes the \"Great Heruka\" as creator of the five herukas, wrathful manifestations of five buddha families, and their consorts. The \"gauris\" are activators of specific energies that push you back into nowness, \"messengers\" that communicate between body and mind, and encourage letting go of self-preservation of ego. Tells mythical story of origin and subjugation of Rudra, egohood. In Q\u0026amp;A, explains how appearances in bardo are projections of mind, that same experiences happen in everyday life. Describes higher beings as consciously choosing to take rebirth, and enter womb with no confusion. Suggests that for them, there is no choice but to come back, as compassionate action.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/745/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702340750","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1702340724_19711002VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":5302.76244,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/745/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702340750","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/219/745/original/1702340724_19711002VCTR1-Audio-Prod-ARCHRmstr-Access.mp3?1702340727","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5302.76244,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711002VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711002VCTR1 - Public Seminar - 1971 - Karme Choling - Tibetan Book of the Dead - Talk 9]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar on Tibetan Book of the Dead, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. Talk number nine, held October 2nd, 1971. This is an ARP digital remaster made March, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Tibetan Book of the Dead, held at Tail of the Tiger in September, 1971. This will be talk number nine, October 2nd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=0.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that we don't have enough time to go through the complete details of the whole book in this particular seminar in great detail, but nevertheless we could follow some sort of evolutionary pattern of the whole thing. And as we have gone through the describing the forty-two peaceful divinities and its relationship, which actually act as kind of guideline to the next ones that happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=72.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that the basic principle of five tathagatas have been transformed into \"krodha\" and \"krodhi\"; \"krodhi\" is consort, and \"krodha\" is the herukas. And the most of the basic quality continues in same way, of five buddha families in this case. And there's a basic idea of what's quality of wrathful. In this case what's the wrathful quality of vajra, what's wrathful quality of karma, and so on. And it seems that basic wrathful quality is that a certain energy contains with vajra, or buddha, or the other families, had to be seen in a very precise way. The energies of very sort of dramatic, theatrical perspectives. And just seeing them in that the energy of vajra, opposed to energy of-- just vajra quality opposed to just vajra as it is, as we described in the peaceful divinities, and here is the energy of the vajra rather than just basic quality of vajra, or buddha or whatever family it's may be. And that energy usually depicted in the iconographical pattern; usually herukas with the three heads, six arms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=158.0,343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And interesting point is that you have the Great Heruka which is not associated with any of the five families of buddha at all, which is separate -- or which is different -- in this case. In other word the space between the five families of buddha which also contains the energy of it as well. So in this case the Great Heruka is represented Chemchok Heruka which is the central figure. And the symbolical meaning behind having three eyes, three heads, and six arms is that the mythical story of subjugation of Rudra in the basic tantric's history, which is a basic quality of transmutation. You have the story of Rudra is someone who achieved complete egohood. And teachings being-- [dog barking and howling] teaching has being misinterpreted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=343.0,485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was two student studying under teacher, and they were friends. And they decide to study diligently under this particular teacher. And the teacher says that essence of his teaching is that if one is able to work on the spontaneous wisdom as it is, even if a person had indulge themselves into four extreme actions of life, then these extreme life becomes like clouds in the sky. So fundamental spontaneity frees these overshadowing clouds. That's the essence of the teaching of I suppose you could say panoramic awareness. That openness, and panoramic awareness, where any kind of energies could have come through, and relate with them as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=485.0,598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And two disciples have heard entirely differently. The one of them went away, and begin to work on himself as much as a spontaneous way of relating with his own characteristics, positives, negatives, able to free them spontaneously, without forcing them, without encouraging anything, or without suppressing them. And the other one went away, and he begin to start on the point of create a brothel, and organized big gang of his friends who also does the same thing of spontaneous action, and occasional razed to nearest villages and killed husbands and brings wives, and that spontaneous action went on. The result was that the second friend had created tremendous kingdom of himself. Big gang. Whereas was the other one just maintained state, and lived very simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=598.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then they met again after certain amount of time. And both were shocked each other, of their spontaneity. And they both hotly disagree with each other -- naturally. And they decide to go to see their teacher, by convincing -- by having complete conviction on both parts that what they're doing is right thing. And they presented their experience to their teacher. And teacher says that, \"You are follow the right way,\" the first friend. And second friend, \"You are following the wrong way.\" With such effort and such diligent practice that second friend put on, energy that he put on, he couldn't bear to see that his power and energy is regarded as a condemned action, and drew a sword and he slashed it on the teacher and killed him on the spot. He didn't want to hear that other aspect of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=685.0,759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's supposedly the original story of Rudra. That when he died, when this particular person died, and he had succession of lives of some-- such as like, 500 scorpions, one after another incarnation, and 500 jackals, and 500 foxes, and 500 spiders, and succession of incarnations. And after that he was born as in the realm of gods -- the lower realm of \"Brahmaloka\" -- as a son of prostitute of the realm of gods. And immediately when he was born his mother died, and he was born this little baby with three heads and six arms, three eyes, and already grown teeth, and nails, and everything sharp, like little spider. Horrified by the gods and they took the body of this mother as well as the son into charnel ground, and they build little tomb and placed the body in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=759.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As baby begin to crawl around mother's body, and begin to suck from the breast, and instead of getting milk, the baby begin to get blood and pus, and begin to survive on several weeks drinking blood, mother's blood. And then when there was no more blood, and baby begin to bite on breast and begin to eat breast. And so in several weeks and months that baby begin to live on the mother's body, chewing up all the bone and eating mother's body completely. So the result of that, baby become very terrifyingly healthy and powerful, and begin to grow extremely fast. And he roams around on the charnel ground and begin to control the local ghosts, or other deities that roaming around this realm of gods, begin to control them, and begin to create little kingdom, and he start all over again that what he did already in his first situation. And he start all this kingdom of Rudra. And he was trying to conquer any other situations or psychic powers or physical powers, that he conquered what's called \"threefold world\", the whole universe, he conquered it, whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=871.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that point the-- his fellow teacher, as well as his brother student, karmically linked, and that they have already attained enlightenment at the time. And his fellow student thought that should try to subdue, subjugate him, and presented all this to the assembly of buddhas, and they simultaneously agree that he should go down and subjugate him. And he, his friend, this time Vajrapani manifested himself in Hayagriva, with horse-headed, red figure -- with a wrathful red figure with a horse head on it. And he uttered his three neighs of proclamation of his existence on the kingdom of Rudra, which shook the whole ground, which actually arouses Rudra. And he couldn't imagine anybody would dare to do such thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=978.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Hayagriva then become to descend on the roof, and come down to the palace, Rudra's palace. And he entered into Rudra's bottom -- anus. And he was extremely psychologically belittled and upset of somebody could control his body that way. And he yelled, and he asked for help, but nobody dare to come and help, because the central of the power has been-- of ego has been in such helpless situation, which is the first time they could have ever imagine, all his followers and his subject. And Rudra's ego, or the state of consciousness, being then subjugated. And he said that, \"I'll offer my body as your seat or your vehicle, and now you have subjugated me, and you have shown your superior power of transcending ego, on my egohood,\" and so he begin to acknowledge whole this thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1059.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that point the heruka's costume of such as like skull cup, skull crowns, and skull cups, and bone ornaments, tiger skin skirt, and human skin shawl, elephant skin shawl, and coat of armor, and a pair of wing. And all those little details, such as like the crescent moon as on the top of-- top knot of hair. And all this attributes were the sort of royal costume of Rudra. And all this being transformed or transmuted as part of heruka's costume. That's the oldest heruka images of the three faces and six arms principle come from that fundamental story of subjugating Rudra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1147.0,1233.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's the Great Heruka create the basic energy of all the wrathful herukas. And you have then Buddha Heruka, Vajra Heruka, Padma Heruka, and Karma Heruka, and so on. Their consort is Vajra Krodhi, Ratna Krodhi, Padma Krodhi, Karma Krodhi. It's the outrageous and ostentatious quality of the energy. Which cannot be challenged or which cannot be slowed down, but it happens naturally, in its own full blossom power, in its complete exuberance power. The dramatic quality of the energy that contains within vajra, because fundamentally the vajra or any of the families and their qualities are peaceful state. Naturally, fundamentally, are open and passive. Passive in the sense of completely stable. That nothing can disturb. Nothing can challenge. Absolutely peaceful. And because of its power of extreme state of peacefulness, therefore that much energy of peaceful could also manifested as wrathful ones; as it been described as \"compassionate anger\". Often described as \"anger without hatred\". Which is the basic principle of wrathful principles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1233.0,1383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the \"gauris\", are the another type of wrathful energy. These five types of buddha heruka principle are the existence of energy as it is, rather than activating energy. And the activating energy also had to be transformed into different types of gauris, as been described in the book, which is next vision. And the white gauri who dances on corpse, because her activity is to extinguish thought process, therefore she holds a mace of baby skull, corpse. You see generally idea of corpse in this case is symbolize by the fundamental principle of neutral state of being with intelligence, is symbolize by only a corpse that happens in the iconographical picture. Like thoughts -- body without consciousness, body without life, is the state without any active thoughts, of neither good thoughts or bad thoughts, it's a nondualistic state of mind is described in terms of thought, in terms of corpse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1383.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then yellow goddess, wrathful goddess, gauri, holds a bow and arrow, because she achieved the unity of skillful means and prajna. These are the different attributes of the energies. The one energy, wrathful energy, also has the function of extinguishing hope and fear, or any thoughts. And one function is to bring skillful means and knowledge together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1502.0,1549.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then also you have the red gauri, holding a banner of victory made out of... \"chu sin\". Scorpion. [Whispers] Scorpion? More like the alligator -- skin of alligator -- which represents never give up the samsaric energy. Alligator usually symbolizes like... sharks. And principle of symbolism, principle of sharks and alligators, are same in this symbolism, is often described as samsara. Samsara is like alligator, that once you enter into it, you have to go through the chain process, there's no way out. You have to go through the whole process. So this goddess holding this particular banner of victory is represented by holding such principle as ornament, which means that samsara is not rejected, but accepting samsara as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1549.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then in the west [ed: north] we have Pramoha Krodhi [Vetali], dark green in color. Holding a vajra and a skull cup, because she symbolizes the unchangeable quality of dharmata. The vajra is indestructible as you know, and the skull cup as again is also symbol of method -- skillful means. So holding shunyata and skillful means together, is another action of energy; the realization of unchangeable quality of dharmata, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1672.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it seems there are lots of them, or twenty-one of them, which we don't particularly have to go through in great detail. And just give you a basic idea of these gauris and messengers that are connected with the wrathful mandala, have each particular figure has a function of each particular energy, fulfilling each particular energy. As we been saying already that a wrathful deity is representing hope, and peaceful represented by fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1726.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case the hope -- or quality of the wrathful energy is hope in the sense of perpetual creative situation being seen as it is by neutral energy, which is neither belong to the good or bad, or side of god or devil, but basic energy, basic quality, which continues constantly. Which create perpetual situations, as well as it creates the action that going along with the situations. In other word, it's kind of another type of guidance, or guiding line. That situation may be seen as very hectic and very rough, and beyond one's own control, but there's no such thing as really control at all in this situation. Whether it seem to be overwhelming or beyond your control, but there is that quality of nowness which is a part of you, that which you have a relationship to it. And tendency of begin to see the situations have control over you or you have control over situation, which creates the sudden accident. It's like suddenly you find yourself going very fast and putting brake on, which causes accident. This kind of panic. But at the same time, this panic quality also has the realization of overwhelming quality of the situation as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1800.0,1924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the gauris' function is to come between the, in other word, body and mind -- come between the two. When we say \"mind\", that is the intelligence, fundamental intelligence. When we say \"body\" in this case it is the impulsive quality, that discovering something, putting into a physical situation -- like panicking. So panic is therefore associated with body. Strange enough in the Greek mythology of Pan, supposed to create panic. And it's kind of a bodily situation. So the gauris or the angels or the messengers, come between the two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1924.0,1995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just pick on intelligence, before the message of intelligence been diluted in the language of panic; it's a sharp precision that comes along with it. Which also means that you have to cut some continuity of possible self-control, or self-preservation of ego, which is the continuity which goes along with intelligent and panic. So you have to cut that cord as gauris entered into and intervene the whole thing. And that's the wrathful quality of cutting through that possible thread running between intelligent, and between the action which makes into everything into solid, and leads one into accident. So that seems to be the basically the function of wrathful principle, as well as the wrathful buddhas, as well as the messengers, the angels, of the gauris.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we could have a discussion on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=1995.0,2071.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are the-- why do you emphasize the gauris as that point? That's the function of the wrathful mandala as a whole, to work at that point between body and mind. Did you say that was the heruka's function also?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's more like the gauris' function.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Where exactly do the herukas fit in that situation there? Like that point of control or being controlled?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The herukas' function is the -- you see gauris act as like a blade; herukas act as the actual sword itself, the weight of the whole thing. It's like axe -- very sharp axe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And how would you experience that? I mean, I can see that the gauris might, you know, might contain some kind of a warning, like might experience them as some kind of a warning, some kind of alerting thing, but that doesn't have the weight that would change the whole force of the present.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the then the function of herukas comes immediately. It doesn't in fact act as a warning at all; it just perceiving something, and suddenly another element inserted in, between the body and mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's the heruka?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's heruka, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2071.0,2188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The story you told about Rudra, I felt a bit confu-- a sense of injustice that this poor guy had to go through all that, and his teacher got enlightened. I mean it would seem to be almost the other way around would be more just or... I mean doesn't the teacher bear some responsibility for that mess?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why he had to subjugate him.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: But his fellow disciple subjugated him. The teacher just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as teacher, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The teacher got out of it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teacher sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Teacher got out of it scot free, as you told the story as.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well teacher was amongst the planning the strategy of the subjugation. And they decide to send his fellow spiritual brother.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What do you think of the teaching that he gave to Rudra in the first place? I mean does the teacher have a responsibility for things like that happening?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, teacher wouldn't say that, \"I'm going to save you.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But teacher just gives prescription, so to speak. And, \"Eat this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'm thinking of the-- of a Zen story where a teacher gave the wrong answer to a question from a student and was he reborn 500 times as a fox.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Teacher was come back as fox?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, 500 times.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there must he's consciously teaching the wrong thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not quite in the story. He didn't know the answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean the teacher just wanted to-- teacher just is inventing new teaching, new doctrine, and misleading leading people. Then of course teacher is to blame. But in this case, teacher just act as a natural element. Depends on how you use this element. It's purely up to you; that you can't put your burden of karma and fascination and confusion into somebody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2188.0,2336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche in that thing you were just describing about the heruka, in between body and mind, it seems that he would have an inhibiting influence at that particular point, and then are pacifying influence on him--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who has?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --and let's say-- huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who has?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The heruka.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Because let's say you're about to panic in some way, or get into some other kind of impulsive situation, then the heruka is felt and would tend to-- would-- as I elaborate on it would tend to just stop that impulse, in which case if-- and if that-- or inhibited in, or in some way pacify it or restrain it, so that it doesn't get into all its results. In that case where does all the tremendous energy of that heruka go? If that is if I'm right about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If herukas are pacifying influence?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah. I mean wouldn't-- isn't it -- am I wrong in thinking that the heruka's presence at that point would have an inhibiting effect on some of the present action, some impulsive train of action?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And in that case, where would all his energy -- where would all that tremendous energy of the heruka go if the situation was one of restraint, or of inhibit?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think it will be-- it won't be preventing-- it wouldn't come as preventing energy as such. But it's exactly the same as analogy of Rudra. That the body of the rudra being transmuted as heruka's body. That its impulsive quality is being interrupted. But force behind impulsive quality has been taken over by herukas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So would that-- at that point would the heruka tend to become his peaceful aspect again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well depends on the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or for the that matter herukas might become gauris.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: To act more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Act more, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2336.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, sometimes an accident will stop speed; it does stop speed, so it seems to me that the accident itself is the act of the heruka. Like you're speeding and driving -- it's happening very quickly -- and the car flips over. Now will it be in a situation like that that the heruka and gauri were acting before it, and the person driving wasn't paying heed to it? Or was the accident itself the action of the heruka stopping the speed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it could be the accident itself could be heruka. Or the sharpness of that accident is the gauri. And you see the difference is the two principles we've been talking about last night when we've been talking about the mahakala quality, the protective quality. And today what we are talking about, heruka quality, were they are slightly different. The mahakala quality is more of reminder. And heruka quality has the transmuting accident into-- destructive accident into a creative accident. It's much more close to the basic nature.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So first you get the warning, and if you don't pay heed to the warning then the heruka comes in, to kind of bring it more into a sharpness [INAUDIBLE] yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bring more into, yeah. So you have no choice, this point -- choiceless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2508.0,2614.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I have another question: in Hindu mythology \"Rudra\" is another name for \"Shiva\".\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Quietly] I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Right. Is there any similarity with your story?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think so. It's same as saying \"mahatma\". Generally we referred in like Mahatma Gandhi, the great soul, great ego. It could be regarded as great ego or could be regarded as great being, like saying \"mahasattva\", or \"bodhisattva\". It's difference between-- way of different way of relating to the \"being\" quality. Being as ego or being as non-ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is it the crescent moon you mentioned--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Crescent moon, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Right. Also \"rudra\" means literally \"to howl\", and it seems to make sense with the story you were saying, shrieking, howling.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shrieking, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I think before he was assimilated to Shiva he was a storm god. In the Vedic he was a storm god [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Makes some sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Where's all this written up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: All this, what you're just talking about, with Shiva, where is it all written up?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In the books. [Laughter] If written, must be book. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2614.0,2712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Could you say something about the way the -- the thing you wrote, the addendum to the sadhana--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The little paper that you wrote on the energy and the HUM, as also connected to this cutting off process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How does that fit into the-- into this picture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's the same thing -- sort of penetrating abruptness quality. Which is HUM is actually seed syllable of all the herukas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How's it pronounced?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: HUM.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: HUM or \"Hoom\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: HUM. Not \"Hoom\".HUM. \"Hooom.\" \"Haaaa\", \"oooo\", \"mmmmm\". \"Ha\" and \"Ooo\" and \"Mmm\". HUM. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2712.0,2770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, between the peaceful and the wrathful deities there's one day which Evans-Wentz calls the \"knowledge holding deities\" and I think it's the seventh day.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, the \"vidyadharas\".\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What are they -- which function do they serve?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have just very briefly gone through that last night, slightly, probably not really noticeably. [Laughs; laughter] That's the element of the speech. The peaceful divinities associated with the heart, and wrathful divinities associated with the brain. The language which communicates heart and the brain is the speech. Vidyadharas: yeah, they are the that which contains-- largely based on communication of mind and body, or more likely intellect and emotions. Intellect is being the brain of the wrathful ones, and emotions being the peaceful quality of peaceful divinities. And the link between the two is the vidyadhara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2770.0,6360.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: But why do the peaceful divinities-- what happened? Why do they stand for fear? I don't understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stand for? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: Fear -- I thought you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It's more of irritation than fear in some sense, because you can't manipulate it, therefore one is in an extremely kind of panicky situation. Because you can't get through them, to convert it into ego language anymore. There's a tremendous panicky situation for ego, for fear. \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: Why are they called \"peaceful\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's called? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: Why are they called \"peaceful\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Peaceful because utterly invincible, extremely invincible: doesn't fight back at all, just remains there. Usually there is an irritation that if somebody doesn't fight back to you, when you want to have a big fight, the person remains utterly peaceful, and doesn't fight back. One is left in a kind of silly and foolish state, which is very embarrassing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=6360.0,6565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Rinpoche, would you-- in the Evans-Wentz translation it has repeatedly refers to the person who is reading the thing to the deceased, that he is \"setting-face-to-face\" with the actuality of the experience. How is that in the original text? Is that a good translation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Face to face with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: \"*Setting*-face-to-face,\" it says.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: With what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It says to the dead person: by reading this-- the implication is by reading this I'm setting you face to face with the...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh I see, \"ngotro.\" Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a very literal translation. \"Ngo\" means \"face\" in Tibetan; \"tro\" means \"facing\", \"with face\". But that is not quite the face to face. It's-- and I thought of good translation the other day. Hmm what is that? It's... \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: Confrontation? \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's... Hmm… it's more of like \"introducing\".\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"Initiated\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No it's-- what was it? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: \"Encountering\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: \"Encountering\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: \"Presenting\"? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: \"Encountering\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's… It's bringing about a person into a realization by direct communication. It's something like transmission, but not as mysterious as transmission. But it's a literal communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So, at any given point in a experience in our daily life, there's a possi-- there's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's just-- actually, that's right and the word I thought was just \"to show\". \"Show.\" That's it -- *showing*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=6565.0,6776.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Is it-- I see what that is now. Is it true that there's a possibility every time you feel an irritation or frustration or a pain with a situation, is it-- is-- at that point does it mean that you're-- if you realize that you're possibly able to relate to a peaceful deity at that moment, at any irritating irritation would create a possibility of relating to a peaceful deity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if there's irritation without a cunning attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But that irritation almost signals the presence of peaceful deities, no?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does. Irritation is the-- almost the facing with the peaceful divinities, but there is great possibilities of looking for another slippery situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Mhmm. That's always true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, we always find that, with ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=6776.0,6860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The luminosity of the peaceful deities, is it the same as the irritating quality, only seen from a different aspect? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be slight evolutionary thing; luminosity is a first thing, and irritation is secondary thing in terms of recipient--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well does that mean that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --the watcher.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --in the transmutation of negativity of irritation, what you reach through transmutation is that luminous quality? Is that what...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. You-- I mean irritation also could have the confusing quality of confusion, which is the opposite of luminosity. So once irritation is properly related, then automatically you have that sort of stepping stone or flashlight quality, that where you're walking into.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=6860.0,6935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you elaborate the relation of-- [dog barks; laughter] --hope with the wrathful deity? It seemed like the-- that fear is a response to the peaceful deity. But I don't see hope being a response to the wrathful. It seems more like the wrath is a response to the hope.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it provides tremendous sharp and quick directions. You see it's like when we talk about accidents being principle of wrathful deities. That whenever there is another accidents, positive accident, opposed to negative or destructive accident, brings in, then you have a channel to work this way through -- it's very hopeful situation. Something's-- some other element comes in and then you can work along with that element, that energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=6935.0,7006.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Would the wrathful deities tend to come in when the situation is more intense? Would that be [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Usually comes in when the situation is hopeless. Which is the failing to see the peaceful divinities. There's hopelessness, and then there's speed goes on after that. And because of the speed you begin to look for another suicidal situation, and wrathful divinities comes in to intervene that, and suicidal begin to come into living situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7006.0,7053.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, you said last night that we'd be apt to see the peaceful deities in this culture in terms of Greek gods or angels and so on. How would we be apt to see the herukas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's biggest problem that we have, actually. If we are-- if our culture is purely on Greek mystical teachings, we wouldn't have probably all that difficulty at all, but on the top of that Christianity comes up. And in Christianity it never mentions of anything wrath, wrathful deity, concept at all. If anything looks angry, fearful, so often related with Satan. So we have biggest problem, but I suppose with the introduction of such idea do exist in terms of Tibetan Book of the Dead, people might find their own version of wrathful divinities. I don't know exactly what will happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7053.0,7124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is it when you feel very positive and happy, which can happen even in the middle of very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You feel positive and--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And happy and calm, in the middle of a difficult situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What kind of divinity is that? I still don't quite see the irritating quality of the peaceful deity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that peaceful is sort of secondary state of peacefulness, rather than the solidness of the peaceful quality of the peaceful divinity. The fundamental meaning of \"shanti\". And usually it sounds like the six buddhas appearing after the vision of peaceful divinities, that we discuss yesterday, it seem to of that type of situation. That you are into some particular state of being, state of consciousness, which is classified either in saying in terms of belong to the world of hell, or world of gods, world of pretas. That you begin to find some resting process, resting situation. And the wise quality of Buddha, and his message, sort of crops up, comes into it. It's sort of resting period between-- [unknown incident or gesture] [laughter; laughs] --a resting process between feeling completely definite, and indestructible, which is the peaceful divinities' quality. And then there's the possibility of something else coming up like expecting hailstorm in the beautiful sunny day, in the midday; something is just about to cook up. And that kind of period begin to happen, which is one is running around in the six realms world of some kind. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But the sort of feeling that you're about to explode at any moment, and someone comes and irritates you even more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah, that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's the peaceful ones, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That's the peaceful one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not quite peaceful, that's the more of the human quality. Like buddhas trying to-- each buddha, six buddhas, trying to communicate with different types of realms. That kind of human quality, eye level quality. Whereas the other are very mysterious quality. Everything is happen in backyard. In this case it's something very obvious; it happens sort of eye level situation. But at the same time when that happens that automatically means something just about happen as well. Usua--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How did the vidyadharas appear? Because they seem very mysterious, dangerous, kind of [INAUDIBLE], and very connected with magic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, they are also human situations as well. You could say the vidyadharas are the, in this particular case, tantric equivalent of buddhas, the holder of the wisdom, knowledge, insight. Usually always vidyadharas are referred as human gurus, living gurus; the highest form of gurus are always referred as vidyadharas, because they could control the-- any misled magics of any kind, which happens in halfway between the imaginary andemotional realm. So vidyadhara is more likely the abstract quality of the mantras, from this point of view. The utterance of speech. And speech is often related to discursive thoughts as well, so magical spell quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo instead of believing in mysterious realms of different gods, peaceful and wrathful gods, you have six buddhas, and then after that you have the vidyadharas are the more subtle form of human communication, in its most abstract quality. In terms of buddhas that there is less abstract quality, because the word of buddha becomes very direct and very logical; spoken in terms of like four noble truths and eightfold paths, which is very sane and very direct. But vidyadharas are the crazy wisdom quality, which is not direct and not obvious. But there's some mischievous quality involved in that, where that mischievous quality of the guru. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7124.0,7491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You said that the wrathful deities act with anger without hate. Is that any relation to anger as we know it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think very much so. We usually experience anger without hatred. We usually do. But we don't actually recognize them. Therefore the frustration of anger begin to come up, because we would like to be hateful, rather than just angry. That's extremely frustrating. We do experience abstract anger, just anger. But we wish to be hateful-- hatred. It's often described in terms of being sword without a blade.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well is it that we just are experiencing the anger, and we're trying to do something with it, instead of just experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, do something with it. And whenever we experience any emotions, we automatically feel that we have to do something with it rather than just experience emotion as it is. And there's automatic conflict between the two situations. That the energy -- the emotions -- become so mysterious. But it's still there; one is not quite certain how to deal with it, that mysterious quality. Profound quality of the emotions. And one often wish that either you could actually put into practice, or ignore the whole thing which is suppressing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Isn't that-- [unknown incident; laughter] isn't that one form of communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6:A form of communication, when you show anger?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Show anger -- show hate or anger you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Anger.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could show anger as it is, without hate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7491.0,7662.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How about fear? Thinking of a particular example, this dog Obie: sometimes you walk up to this dog and just pet the dog and very friendly; sometimes you walk up to this dog, and he starts -- just jumps -- and starts to bark at you. And it seems it creates fear at the same time as anger. And so you could either just stand there and have both of those going on, but this isn't clear. The question is: is the energy of fear, and the energy of anger, how are they related?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well seems to be quite similar, that situation. Definitely similar, yeah. Well fear is also abstract thing. Either haunted by fear, so you run away from the situation, as fast as you can, or else jump back in terms of anger, terms of hatred.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So how could you make friends with the dog in that that it was in that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you're in that situation you can't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Obie barks because he's afraid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because you begin to haunt Obie, [laughter] of your uncertainty.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Bark back. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7662.0,7783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Would you say that the reason for the development of the wrathful aspects of the tathagatas is like this: that they, the tathagatas, present this complete and indestructible quality, and something runs away from it, and begins to try and act as though that didn't exist in some way. And then this wrathful aspect develops to go and catch that thing that runs away. And because it's running into some place where there is no real substance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's exactly the whole sequence that been given in the book, is about that, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So is-- so anger is actually chasing a stray sheep, in a certain way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In a manner of speech.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7783.0,7854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: But anger alone can be very constructive; I mean, it's not a static situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah. That's very true. But problem with hatred is another matter. That kind of anger is also like the anger in the wrathful principle, is the compassionate anger. Compassionate wrath -- [whispering] or \"wrath\". [with American accent]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7854.0,7905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: It keeps appearing that these things are projections of our own mind. And I've been gaining some doubts that's there's any mind I can call mine. Is there? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if there is a projection.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, there's a projection, sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then there have to be mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, but it is mine?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we're not concerned with the mind, but we're concerned with the projections.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well can we for a minute be concerned with the mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That means we have to concern with the projections. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: All right. Is there a mind-- you know, is there a mind that I can call \"mine\"? Is it-- is-- because he keep it's saying projection of your own mind. Is there a \"my own mind\" which is projecting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is projecting. [Laughter] If there's something projecting, there must be something-- some projector.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7905.0,7991.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well how would you describe the instructions given in this case? In they-- in the book, Evan-Wentz just says: don't be afraid; recognize the projections of your own intellect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in other word, don't get afraid of anything. They are not alien things coming to you, but they are part of you. And moreover The Tibetan Book of the Birth, or Tibetan Book of the Living, life -- being alive -- is the most substance, most important instruction you can give to people. If they begin to realize the living situation also contains death, of that moment, and these things do happen in the living situation, then they be extremely familiar with the bardo experience of any kind, completely. So that's why it's been always recommended that this had to be studied in a living situation. I mean it is said in the book, just before the wrathful chapter, it said that you may be great scholar, you may be great monastic person, keep up with all the rules, and you may be highly intellectual person, but if you don't relate with the living situation then nothing happens, nothing helps. Although you may be regarded as very sloppy in the living situation, or not living in a monastic situation, or being highly intellectual person, there is always chance -- to anyone -- if they relate with these experience in the living situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: So but in the case of the peaceful deities, in the living situation, it seems to be either a question of going with the energy of the-- with the peaceful deities, going with the situation that corresponds with peaceful deity or not going with them, and kind of retiring into the softer, duller, light. But in the case of the wrathful deities, they just have this wrathful situation. Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: And there doesn't seem to be an alternative -- I mean there it is coming at you, and going to come.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is the other alternative which is the escaping to sort of domestic level of the ego, which is continuity of watcher. Whenever there's continuity the watcher that could be the very effective, very efficient way of concealing, or what you call -- *excluding* the wrathful ones. It seems that whole thing is based on this watcher principle. The \"watcher\" in Tibetan word is \"dzinpa\", which means-- literally means \"fixation\" -- fixation to this, fixation to me, fixed thing, holding. If anybody want to exclude wrathful deities, or gauris, or tathagatas in wrathful form, the best mechanism is to have a watcher, very efficiently working for it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=7991.0,8214.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, the question Christian asked yesterday about the-- what the peaceful deities were, and if they had any sort of objective existence or reality or...? What about the wrathful deities? Do they have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's exactly the same thing. Equally identical. They don't remain as objective and solid beings. Or solid concepts for that matter either. It's in a very sort of abstract level, that interestingly we discussed today about the virus -- this morning, this afternoon? That virus is never been -- what was it? Never been able to classify it as living -- or what was the other one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Not living.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not living, yeah. It something abstract thing which goes on behind everything and permeates the environment. You can catch virus. It's that kind of quality of abstract. It is not regarded as living or dead, but it is something. Something happens there beyond somebody else's third-- or the fifth dimension perception -- whatever you'd like to call it, or hundredth dimension quality [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But in the same way, you can't assign it either positive or negative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, you can't. You see the whole reason is being these are not regarded as gods and devils as such. They don't have their classification, as such, like say about a virus. They're environmental situation, which doesn't really depend on anything. They could exist, you know, within environment of dharmadhatu, or within environment of clear light, which is the basic, neutral, ground of certain area which is not belong to samsara or nirvana. So these are very fundamental, so one hardly can say they are deities or gods. That's why. But at the same time, there's some very organic quality of the whole thing. That they do function with the situation of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=8214.0,8393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What happens when you ignore the entrance of the peaceful deities and go into the suicidal path you mentioned, and then ignore the wrathful deities, and really go into something very destructive? What is operating there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Back to square one. Then you are just about to be reborn. You can't just hang around, you know, rejecting everything, you have to do something, because you know you are suspended there; you have to find some next job. It's like having somebody give you a lift in when you're hitchhiking, that you can't go along with the person altogether to back to his home. That person often ask, \"Where you want me to drop you?\" So you have to make-- you have to say something, where you want to be dropped. I mean you can't say, \"I'm going back with you in your home.\" [Laughter; laughs] As far as you are concerned, there's no home for you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So it's back to surrender?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or fascination.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's amazing that you're always sure to get a ride -- even it's a horrible one. [Laughter] TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well [laughter] I mean, thanks to you being very slippery.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You could get a nice ride too, I-- I don't understand why you say that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, could be picked up by the police.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Least you won't be bored.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose tomorrow we should discuss about the sort of practicality of how people should relate to the -- if they happens to be in somebody if dying, and how we should deal with it. And we should discuss that particular point, which is very appropriate, it seems. And having heard the whole thing, we gone through the background of the whole thing, a living situation, and that which makes us tremendously sort of sophisticated and educated, it terms of dealing with the simple matter of death, which is another corner of life in some sense, in the physical death, which would be not very difficult at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=8393.0,8587.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, how is it that an enlightened being would come out of the light? If there's no fascination, there's no, you know, karmic desire to be reborn, then how would, say an incarnate lama would be back on, you know... [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is-- there's still warmth. I mean you may be very non-caring about the whole thing, as far as *you* are concerned, *your* state of mind is concerned, but there is still the basic warmth of compassion, continuous, and you make a choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You make a choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do make a choice. At that time you are highly possible to make a choice, because you have nothing pushing behind you in terms of karmic force, so you can make a skillful choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That you be born.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So there are those who do and those who don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Those what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There are those who do and those who don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Those who do and those who don't, yeah, very precisely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=8587.0,12180.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: And if you are not going to speak about closing the womb door--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Closing what? \r\n\r\n\r\nLILA KALLMAN: The *womb* door. There are several chapters, or several ways, when the person has already rejected or was unable to learn from all the lessons that were read to him, and finally it boils down to his having to be born, if he is not successful in closing the womb door, the door to the womb, so he doesn't have to be born after all. And it seems that there are about five different prescriptions for this. But what happens to a person if he's successful in closing the womb door, where is he then? I mean he's neither here nor there. Is he--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well but he can't close the womb door completely, constantly, because he have to relate with his compassionate situation. And womb door is associated with confusion in the sense of you are completely engolloped, and you're complete thrown into a dark chamber of mother's womb, but there's intelligent. That's the reason why that when people are reborn, the higher beings reborn, they could remember their previous life, because they are not completely confused by the whole thing. They go into the womb -- they open their door of the womb -- and they walk in, consciously, they settle themselves in, properly. So everything has been done with the proper control.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is that at the time that the child take its first breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the-- on the other end the other thing happens, yeah. The clear-- the clarity happens again. It's like if you have some quiet state of mind before you go to sleep, you wake up with a same way, with a quiet state of mind. It happens in-- at the other end when you about to born -- when you're born.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's another story of great logician who's extremely confused in the bardo state, and he's working out of his logical answers that everything's okay for him -- whatever he does -- his logical proofs. He's been challenging everybody, all over, in his bardo state. That he wins, his logical answers. And finally he was just about to enter into a being as a donkey, [laughter] and he was fascinated by this donkey mating, two donkeys mating. And one of his friend try to prevent him saying, \"This is donkey. Don't you see it?\" And then he says, \"Wherever I go it's a mandala,\" and he goes in. [Laughs; laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Would you have an enlightened donkey in a situation like that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Um... relatively speaking, I suppose [laughter; laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: A smartass. [laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=12180.0,12504.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62573/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We shall be smart to stop our-- [somebody coughs] Gesundheit.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=12504.0,5302.76244"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62574","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711002VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62574/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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Also \"rudra\"\nmeans literally \"to howl\",","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2663.41,2666.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62574/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it seems to make sense\nwith the story you were saying,\nshrieking, howling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745#t=2667.07,2671.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115868/file/219745/transcript/62574/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nShrieking, 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