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Includes eloquent descriptions of the direct, open nature of sutra teachings and their ability to transport the reader back to the time of the Buddha himself. Because of how well the sutras were recorded by the Buddha’s disciples, we have powerful access to precise descriptions of what the Buddha said, where and when he said it, and even the way he moved his body, smiled, or turned his head while teaching. As such, sutras offer richly experiential presentations of the truth -- very direct, simple, and realistic with no element of salesmanship. Everything is stated and answered very clearly, so our confusion has no room to move around. Confusion becomes \"imprisoned\" by Buddha’s words, leaving us no choice but to give in to the teachings.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 18 2020 to Aug 23 2025 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Leandra Ziegler Terminology Review: Andy Karr Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDetailed introduction to sutras -- canonical hinayana and mahayana texts attributed to the Buddha. Includes eloquent descriptions of the direct, open nature of sutra teachings and their ability to transport the reader back to the time of the Buddha himself. Because of how well the sutras were recorded by the Buddha\u0026rsquo;s disciples, we have powerful access to precise descriptions of what the Buddha said, where and when he said it, and even the way he moved his body, smiled, or turned his head while teaching. As such, sutras offer richly experiential presentations of the truth -- very direct, simple, and realistic with no element of salesmanship. Everything is stated and answered very clearly, so our confusion has no room to move around. Confusion becomes \"imprisoned\" by Buddha\u0026rsquo;s words, leaving us no choice but to give in to the teachings.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/575/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346973","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20251001-2006876-wywpwm.mpga"]},"duration":3735.30122,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/293/575/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1759346973","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/293/575/original/open-uri20251001-2006876-wywpwm.mpga?1759343527","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3735.30122,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740307VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740307VCTR1 - University of Colorado - Boulder - Spring 1974 - Class 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, University of Colorado classes, 1974, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is class number six, \"The Sutras\", held March 7th, 1974. This an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=0.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: LECTURE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're going to discuss the different sutras and its implications, and approaches that involved with the sutra discipline and teaching, so forth. The basic point is the teachings of Buddha are related with continual evolution of the student's psychology. That the sutra is the first way of proclaiming the teachings. And \"sutra\" literally means \"junction, confluence, a meeting point, or delta of some kind\", that where the two rivers meet, and also where the two rivers meet at the ocean. And the reason why sutra is called \"junction, confluence\" is because that the such display of the teachings what brings you to-- into the world of civilization. It has nothing to do with the compromising the other river, the other river bring together so finally you have a happy medium. But it is to show you the civilized place. That originally the rivers come from the high mountains, from the plateaus and snow mountains and the Alps. And when the rivers flow down into the lowlands, that the traditional Indian notion is that highly civilized society exist in the lowlands -- a place like Benares. And places like that, that where big cities are built in the lowland or even in the coast of ocean, that places are built, so that person would be introduced into society and highest, highly developed metropolitan areas. So that's the purpose of sutra is called \"junction, sutra, confluence\" is that to introduce people to the only civilized world, opposed to a rugged and uncultured, savage life that exist up in the mountains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=24.0,267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the sutra teaching-- \"sutra\" is generally a term for \"sayings of Buddha.\" And that particular teaching is divide into three types of style or contents. And first one is being what's called the area of \"discipline\", \"pratimoksha\" --individual liberation, self-liberation. Or another word for that is \"vinaya\", which literally means \"taming.\" That wildness of our behavior, un-meditative, and haven't had any sense of discipline of relating with our mind, body, and the practice of awareness of anything at all; so therefore, that uncultured, savage-like process, savage-like approach had to be processed and more civilized. So therefore pratimoksha and vinaya particularly means taming. Taming the body by committing oneself into the physical situation of monastic disciplines or practice of meditation. And taming the speech -- having body is already committed into that particular discipline, speech becomes also tameable and less chatter and less gossip is involved. And due to those two situations, then the mind is also tamed, because the mind does not look for further entertainment either through itself or through the speech or through the body. So sense of tame, being tamed is the point of first part of portion of sutra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=267.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's another one called \"sutra teaching\", which is -- one should not confuse with the general sutra -- this is the specific sutra of the second section, it's called sutra teaching, that is completely devoted into practice of meditation, meditation techniques, and the suggestion and the dialogues meditation practices that consist of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=422.0,461.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then there is the third one, which is called \"abhidharma.\" The complete dharma to expound teachings psychologically, metaphysically, that to understand the function of world, psychological world -- that how we are here, why we are here. Abhidharma teaching is very potent and very important. Abhidharma sutras become very important part of Buddhist theology, so to speak, that shows the geography of the world, which is also you are included, namely, particularly. It is to demonstrate, to show the twelve nidanas and the five skandhas and all those process, how it functions mechanically in our state of mind; it is the metaphysical aspect of the teachings. That according to the tradition, that we have lost all of the sutras of abhidharma. That the famous library that has been built in the middle of India where Tripitaka is placed caught fire, and the students are able to save the sutra teaching and vinaya teachings, but they are unable to save the abhidharma teachings; because the place that such books, scriptures are in the back of their library in the depth of that building are where scholars and students actually discussing and studying. So we have no sutra version of abhidharma, either in the hinayana tradition, theravadin tradition, or the hinayana tradition of \"sarvastivadins,\" which is a Tibetan tradition, or the Chinese tradition. We don't have abhidharma sutras. But only thing we have is that recollections of the scholars who memorized such sutra had written commentary on \"Abhidharmakosha\" and so forth; that books be written about it by the brother of Asanga, who's called Vasubandhu has written the survey of abhidharma. Which is the closest to the teachings of Buddha and the sutra of abhidharma that we could get ahold of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=461.0,655.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And those three processes of so-called compiles that what's known as the \"Buddhist Bible.\" That in the Tibetan tradition such collection consist of 108 volumes, and other traditions are same thing. That the sutra teachings are the basic studies of the Buddha's style and word and how he handles his students are very interesting. And they are divided into different approaches, different styles. The sutras are written in the form of a diary: \"And today in certain certain date, certain certain place, the Blessed One sat and taught. And a certain person ask him question, and he answers in a certain way.\" Sometimes the sutra teachings is also that there is what's known as \"gathas\", which is that some point of discussion, that the Buddha suddenly speaks out in terms of poetry, verses, usually seven line or nine line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=655.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the other case is that sutra consist of very few words from the Buddha. That the students discuss between themselves, that they held discussion group and the Buddha just witnessed the whole thing. And if someone raised the wrong point or the confused point of view, he stops them on the spot, and then somebody else picked up from that. So, that is another approach. And the other case is that Buddha just sit there and the disciples gathered around him, that he refused to say even \"I refuse to answer even questions.\" That students proceed along, that is sense of some kind of trust that students are advanced enough to demonstrate the dharma in the living situation, that they don't-- Buddha doesn't have to correct them or instigate anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=758.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the mahayana sutras, which also follows the same process. Such as like we have the Heart Sutra, which is a perfect example, \"Prajnaparamita Hridaya.\" That we have Avalokiteshvara and Shariputra are having dialogue. And the Buddha instigate the basic phenomena, so to speak, the basic situation. That he doesn't contribute to anything at all, except at the end, that Buddha says \"what has been discussed is well done and well said.\" Just he's-- he just approves what's been happening as part of empowerment into the whole energy, that it is becomes a sutra rather than discussions among students.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=829.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one of the important point of sutra generally, and particularly mahayana sutras, as well as hinayana sutra, that question is to illustrate and bring the students back to the time of Buddha. That how the relationships and how the structure has developed between student and teacher, and how things handled in a very open situation, very open way. Which we have a problem in the West, and presently, if we are going to give a public speech of some kind, that we have to say what is the title is going to be. And that people are attracted to the speaker as well as to the title that speaker has put out. And people have enormous expectations to that speaker is going to answer every word that what-- every questions what he might raise or the students might raise. He would answer everything, that he's going to be good showmanship. And that has become problem, and often because of that, and the students become sometimes angry, resentful, disappointed, and completely turned on. That there is mixed feelings of all kinds of things develops, which allows more of problem than actually promise, or harmony for that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=904.0,1026.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That public speaking, presenting teaching becomes a business transaction somewhat. That you present merchandise, and a person should like it and should buy it or reject it. And the only fun and excitement there is the rejection and acception-- accepting. That whole knowledge and the presentation of the wisdom become somewhat corrupted and undermined, and become cheapened. And that is the problem that, opposed to sutra, is not series of lectures by Buddha as such by no means. And I'm sure none of the teachings of Buddha, such as like great topics like understanding of shunyata, or the great prajnaparamita, transcendental wisdom, or that of the three marks of existence, the four noble truths. None of them advertised. And just came along, and according to the record, that audience is concerned, there are sometimes 10,000 people, sometimes 100,000 people. Of course the students or the attendants are concerned, a lot of them are also celestial beings that supposedly took part in the-- in this discussion; so we have no way of keeping record of how many sheeps and goats and human beings and scholars and Brahmans and monks and yogis or whoever they are, arhats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1026.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the process of when the sutra is received properly, teachings been heard, that there is what's known as the void of \"three types of inadequacy\" to be a listener, to be audience. That is to say the audience mind is mixed with passion, desire, hatred of all kinds. That student's mind is preoccupied with his own relationship with the world, lover, relatives, whatever, business partner. That you receive the teachings as food tinged with poison. Somehow it does not become effective or real learning situation, that your medicine, or the dharma has become undermined by the mixed feelings that your mind is already preoccupied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1143.0,1213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's another metaphor that is that if person has complete interest, open mind, but at the same time, person cannot actually follow the logic of it, actually follow the excitement, the drama of it, the truth of it, that person can't tune himself into, herself into it. So that consequently, person misses a lot of the anecdotes of the teachings, the juice of the teachings, which is symbolized in the \"pot with the hole\" -- you pour and pour, but still leaks at the bottom. So that you probably receive enormous downpour of teachings, but at the same time, that you have a hole in your pot, and gives away and you forget and you can't grasp the whole thing. So maybe that certain logics you might have-- you thought you might have understood becomes illogical, because your distraction and your unwholesomeness of your state of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1213.0,1292.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is the third one, which is that the person takes part in the learning situation, but doesn't open his mind, or her mind to it. And hopefully able to use as purely form of entertainment, but consequently, cease to become even entertainment. And that is-- the example that is the \"pot placed upside down.\" That you have nothing to-- the contents that the water that poured on the pot does not even stay on it. It completely miss the whole point, that entertainment becomes important point. That has become the situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1292.0,1359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as far as we know, that sutra teachings be recorded, that we have informations, examples, that the teachings have become very precise, very powerful. Also it records that the time when details, that when the Buddha lift his hand up and he slightly smile, he turned his head right or left and he completely smiled -- and all those details are recorded. That the intelligence way the sutra has been recorded gives us some kind of format and the basic question, and also the boldness. That usually all the sutras have the feeling of that nothing is really edited, put into good grammar, put into proper literature. A lot of them are extremely repetitious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1359.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of Diamond Sutra, that we have some more ideas as to the in terms of gathas, the songs of Buddha. That he sang in seven syllable or nine syllable poetry that praise to the shunyata discovery of Buddha, or realization and so forth. That differences seem to be between Heart Sutra and Diamond Sutra is that in the case of Heart Sutra, that everything is so immediate because that happens to be the one of the first ones. In the case of Diamond Sutra, that it is been much later and lengthier, that it is consist of discussions as well as expressions of the Buddha in the form of prose and poem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1459.0,1536.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one of the interesting point here is that, as far as even we are concerned, that we could create a sutra from that way. That if the happenings or the gatherings of people and audience and speaker are working together in its fullest sense, actually speaking, actually exchanging the situation, sharing the situation and working together. That person who's extremely get bored and dozing off could be woken up, because of the such energy, such realities taking place. And the person has all kinds of preoccupations of emotional trips that might happen, but taking part in such sutra-like presentation could awoken them up; they could take part in it properly, thoroughly -- to show the confluence, that how the two rivers-- or five rivers goes to the ocean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1536.0,1617.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it is-- it's not so much of presenting truth as trying to prove, which is a very poverty mentality. But presenting the truth in this case is very rich. That it is like conducted tour into the dharma realm -- that where the mountains lie, where the rivers are, and how the trees grow -- but everything's very factual, there's no element of salesmanship, but everything's direct and simple and extremely realistic. And a lot of people might find such presentation is bold and undermining, but nevertheless, the sutra teachings, the teachings of Buddha as referred as the \"lion's roar.\" The turning-- the wheel of the dharma is turned three times, that presenting the sutra teachings of the hinayana, and presenting the sutra teachings of mahayana, and presenting the final sutra teachings of greater mahayana are regard as lion's roar, that needing no reference point to prove. And whole process becomes very simple and direct, at the same time, dignified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1617.0,1756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think probably it will be-- it would be worthwhile, if you are interested in further, interested in discovering the style and process that sutra has presented, that there are three \"nikaya\" sutras of the hinayana, which is now in the theravadin form. And then there is the Pali Text Society has published the Tripitaka completely -- you find a lot of informations out of that. As far as mahayana is concerned, there is a-- the lot of translations of various sutras, like \"Saddharma Pundarika\", the \"Sutra of White Lotus, the Good Law\" has been translated, and there is the Lankavatara Sutra, and there is the Sutra of Mahaparinirvana, which are all been translated from the Sanskrit or the Japanese and Chinese version.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1756.0,1837.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That it not only gives the information -- and sometimes it doesn't give the information or the clue -- but you could get some kind of feeling as to the whole vibration setup, that ideas and such structure has been developed. Out of such unorganized way, that such organization of mind has been developed between student and teacher. And that's one of the interesting thing about the sutra is that the presentation or the style is very informal, haphazard almost. But the outcome is ironically claustrophobic, that you don't have any room to move your own confusion around. That everything's clearly stated, clearly answered. That your confusion is imprisoned, there's no other thing to do then give in to it. That kind of situation is very interesting. And as far as the Chinese and the Japanese translations are concerned, they seem to be in very good shape, and very eloquent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1837.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have some of the Pali translations, which has been developed in the early the century, which is slightly archaic, and maybe slightly difficult for you to follow. But still, you catch the glimpse of the ideas behind the whole thing, which be extremely useful. Unfortunately, there is no translation of sutras from the Tibetan except a short translation that we have done, which is the translation of Prajnaparamita Hridaya, the Heart Sutra from the Tibetan. And there has been no Tibetan-- direct Tibetan translation of sutras yet. And we hope to work on that area if we could have enough scholars to put their energy and effort, student practicing scholars can work on that situation. Which will be extremely exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1920.0,1990.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, way to read the sutra is not as information or textbook, but read as a way of experiencing the environment -- that realm of Buddha. And then the repetitiousness of the contents may be, become part of the journey, because there's openness constantly taking place. So you able to work with it more, rather than trying to make sense out of every word very aggressively, which is not at all the style of sutra in any case. That you seem to miss the boat if you do that. Or you have the wrong end of the stick, for that matter.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on that, if anybody like to ask questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=1990.0,2069.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If there are already translations of the sutras from the Pali and the Sanskrit, why is it important to have them translations from the Tibetan?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we have a lot of sutras missing in the Sanskrit literature. That there has been very-- there has been no collections of Sanskrit Tripitaka at all because the sarvastivadin order is predominately in Tibet and Japan and China. And instead of maintaining the Sanskrit manuscript, they have translated into their own languages. So a lot of the sarvastivadin sutras that we have are not in Sanskrit anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Not in Pali either?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pali is theravadin.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are they different sutras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is a different order of hinayana school.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are they different sutras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They are different sutras. They are-- supposedly, originally, when the whole sutra is compiled, it is been said that there was something like 106 elephant loads of sutras. That when the Ashoka decide to compile all the sutras, there so much stuff. It's not really sutra, but it's just recording what Buddha said before he went to sleep, including his snores. [Laughter] And little things he did and said has be completely recorded all the time. So obviously, when you record somebody's complete life, it is, you know, so much things there. And it is called, sutras of certain certain things. When you decide to give certain emphasis on certain particular subject, it is becomes in Tibetan sutra, but otherwise, whole thing is just the twenty-four hours tape [laughter] of one's life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So the different schools have different--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They have chosen different aspect of it, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2069.0,2218.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was led to understand from Professor Guenther who was here--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was led to understand from something that Professor Guenther said when he was here that are two sets of abhidharma literature, one of which is in Pali, and another of which was in Sanskrit, but was, he said, apparently burned, and that that's only available in Tibetan. He said that that-- the one that's available of the abhidharma literature [INAUDIBLE] is much more sophisticated and represents the mahayana psychology as opposed to the hinayana psychology. Is that so? Would you say [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think very much actually. There is some reference to that mahayana slant, but at the same time, they both abhidharma sutras, that Abhidharmakoshas, abhidharma shastras we have in Pali -- I think they have nine volumes in Pali. And in the Tibetan, we have something like five volumes of Abhidharmakosha and abhidharma textbook. That both approaches being very precise. And only difference between the Tibetan version to the Pali version is that in the Tibetan version, that there is a greater emphasis on the logic, the logic of conclusions; in the Pali version, it is been regarded as written as a sermon. And that seem to be the difference is that the -- as if that the Pali version is more directed towards laymen, and the Tibetan version is more towards-- directed towards all the practitioners. And that there is definite distinction between the two.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: There's no mention of devotion and that aspect of when mahayana in those Tibetan [INAUDIBLE]. I thought that's what was there, there was some kind of later mahayana teachings of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the mahayana teachings are added on. They come as appendix, rather than the genuine one, the first one; actual real text doesn't have any slant on the mahayana. But the shastras, or the commentaries, have a lot of mahayana emphasis on it, which comes much later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2218.0,2384.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: Are you saying that Tibetan only-- Tibetan literature only has Vasubandhu's Abhidharmakosha, and doesn't have any independent collection of abhidharma books as in Pali?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is two texts. One is \"dzo\" [ed: Abhidharmakosha by Vasubandhu] and one is \"kuntu\" [ed: short for \"kunle tupa,\" the Abhidharma-samucchaya by Asanga]. They're two types abhidharma texts, and the commentaries on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: On both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both of those, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: But, I mean, then that's Vasubandhu's work or what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Vasubandhu's work, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2384.0,2420.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: This week, the assigned reading was Heart Sutra and the Diamond Sutra. Could you say something about the Heart Sutra in terms of the repetitiveness of the negation saying \"no sex, no touch.\" Could you tell us how that relates to mahayana teachings, [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- the repetition seem to be very definite that trying to block any room to escape. That if we have to do that in the twentieth century people's intellectual world, that we have to have -- in fact, not only five types of \"no eyes, no nose, no ears, no mouth\", whatever, you know -- you have to have hundreds of them. There's every-- every possible room to escape has been concealed, so you are finally have no room to give in or give out. So you are just simply there, in the level of explosion of shunyata. So that's the whole point of repetition is to tell you again and again, \"It is true, it's happening. It's true, it's happening. It is true, it is happening.\" You know, it's confirmation after confirmation, and finally, even the confirmation doesn't provide any security, but it provides irritation. And even transcend beyond irritation, and it becomes somewhat helpless. That it is a kind of reshaping, you know, a person's behavior into a different way of thinking altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat if you read the larger volumes of Prajnaparamita, which consist of twelve volumes, that the whole volumes like that, that sometimes that repetition goes on for five big pages, ten big pages that goes on and on and on. That it gives no room. That everything simplifies into one level of situation, which trying to present idea of explosion. When every area is be completely concealed-- completely sealed, that there's nothing but explosion that could take place. That explosion is been regarded as realization of shunyata or prajnaparamita.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2420.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is the yellow school of Tibet [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The yellow school.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The yellow school?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, the one that is the big one, right? [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] It's known as, popularly, \"Yellow Hat School.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You're a red hat are you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm \"Red Hat\", yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So, what would it mean, the difference in [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the only difference is that the emphasis on the intellectual study, opposed to study *and* practice. That the Gelukpa tradition, which is \"Yellow Hat School\", lays lot of heavy emphasis on the students to begin with before they even become practitioners, they should study. They should learn logic, the logical language. And having accomplished the whole thing, then they should turn their life towards contemplative practice, meditative practice. Whereas the other one, is that you start predominately with the sitting practice, meditative practice first. And as you go on meditate and lead your contemplative life, then you also introduce the anecdotes of clear thinking. That sitting practice of meditation is already, hopefully, provided some kind of clarity already; and then you go on. So that seem to be the two types of traditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2580.0,2687.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What was this whole talk on the sutras for? In other words, are-- [laughter] is it supposed to be important to read them or something in the practice at this stage? Aren't the only people that seem to be asking questions about them seem to be people who've been with you for years? And I don't know if anybody else even knew what [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it-- I think it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's-- question is like, it's general tradition that if you are interested in a certain particular discipline, you read the work of the founder of that particular discipline. That you read all the New Testament, the Bible. And in the Buddhist tradition, that you read the sutras, which has entirely different impact than that of Bible, in some sense. Because it is-- for one thing, it is very expensive to buy 108 volumes of the whole thing, and another thing is it too repetitious, and it is told in this form of story. But it does have enormous impact, that one begin to realize that the level of intelligent, and he also need a certain amount of excitement.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat has become one of the problems in the West, generally. That we don't want to eat a staple diet; we want to eat entrees. So, I mean, in the Western world, we don't have staple diet like we have in the Oriental world like eating rice or in Tibet, eating barley or in Mexico, you're eating tortillas, whatever. [Laughter] That we don't have a real staple diet. And we are interested in the vegetables and entrees and other things. And that is like commentaries, and somebody's idea of something about that. He did already work for you, so you don't have to go for the problem of trying to find out the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat is extremely helpful, but at the same time, it is very harmful, because you have cruppled [sic] your-- crippled your potentiality of exercise your own intelligence. Has become very much big problem. That we have no idea of how to handle unless that package comes along with directions how to handle it. And learning with the sutra is very important, that we are working with the raw material that is there already independent of commentaries. Then you also learned how to figure out in our own use, our own practice at the same time, which is like dealing with the staple diet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2687.0,2883.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Are you going to go streaking tonight? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: She asked if you [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Streaking. Everybody's going to streak tonight, they're going to take off their clothes and run across campus naked right about now. [INAUDIBLE] that, five to six hundred people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the connection? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [audience chatter] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You done it already, in your mind. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2883.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody asking question down there?.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Could some of the repetition be due to the sutras haven't been thoroughly handed down to begin with? I read that somewhere. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, probably, that the echo of mind that when you heard the teachings are constantly there, regenerating itself. The memory of discipline and the memory of being present of Buddha is very powerful ongoing process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, were these sutras all written down early in the history of the Buddha's teachings or did that happen much later do you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, theoretically it suppose to happened about-- written in the actual script after the death of Buddha, immediately. That there was first a council of meeting of the all the monks and the arhats work together. And then there was another meeting took place about 200 years later. And third one took place in the time of when Ashoka sponsored whole big conference of putting the sutras in up to date language. Which is known as three types of conference took place.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Whispering] What you have in there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I drank it all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2927.0,3067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I'm wondering what point, if any, there is in your own intellectual speculation in working with something like the Prajnaparamita Sutras. I mean, granted that you start working with the raw text. Is there any point in attempting to produce your own philosophical or quasi-philosophical commentary as your own process of grappling with the text? But then, I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --it always feels like, sort of, the same empty feeling you feel when you read people's commentaries. That you know that they have missed the main point somehow, and then you're missing the main point somehow too. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that seem to be the point [laughter] precisely. If the emphasis on not so much of that you have to actually produce something out of this, but you could live with it to begin with, along with the tradition.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, whatever. And then you begin to pick up the actual feeling of it. When somebody's involved with the some definite discipline, first they want to create their own commentaries on it. And if person let go of that, then sense of reassurance of that. And then beyond that, person finds, you know, nebulous, non-caring. And beyond that, then you might have some sense of tradition and the solidness, and everything takes place after that. So it takes a lot of levels to go through that process. So there's a lot of need for discipline.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is it a question of continually intellectually grappling with it? I mean, with some sense of the totality--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, along with the practice of meditation at the same time. That you're not purely trying to accumulate intellectual arguments, you know, the sitting practice provides a lot of room for the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah, I mean I'm wondering-- my impression about the way they were used, for instance, in the Zen context or something, is that the whole thing is done entirely intuitively. That you might simply-- sutras might simply be recited or they're simply chanted. And possibly they trigger something in you, and possibly they don't. And I'm wondering about the approach of actually studying them and trying to puzzle them out -- or whether that's simply misguided approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I think that's good as long as you don't try to voice them out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Voice them out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And I mean, we have a lot of people--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You mean not induce your sense of them to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, a lot of people are voicing out their-- Zen as being all kinds of poems and pseudo-Zen beatnik generations have thrived on that Heart Sutra alone. There's a lot of Zen cultures developed through that American beatnik situation, which is that when they realize they have to voice out. Whereas if there is a sense of you are content with your own voice for a while. Then you can expand out later on when your voice also have vocal cord to go along with it, your eloquence. So, and that particular discipline is determined by sitting practice of meditation at the same time. So person might, say, have a complete understanding, as far as he's concerned, of the Heart Sutra right at the beginning. But worthwhile holding back, experience and sitting more. And as person goes along, along more and more, then you have some more sense of what he did discovered is also another kind of shield that it created. And there's all kinds of layers and layers to, you know, fall out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=3067.0,3338.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I was wondering, when you left Tibet or when the Chinese went into Tibet, I know a lot of the books and things were destroyed. Were there a lot of original texts that originate, that were written in Tibet? Or did a lot of them come from-- were a lot of them translated from pre-- already written things that were in India? And I was wondering how much was lost.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as far as the Tripitaka or the sutras concerned, none of them lost at all. Everything's preserved, intact. That the-- recently, the Suzuki Foundation, D.T. Suzuki Foundation in Japan had managed to get ahold of the Peking edition of the Tripitaka in the Tibetan version. And they are published and printed in Western book form, which will cost something like 8,000 dollars of the whole thing, which is beautifully bounded, beautifully done. And the sutras are completely preserved. The only thing that isn't preserved is various shastras, or the commentaries of various people, you know. That is missing link, in fact, that sutras are just simple, straightforward. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In the monasteries, were there mainly sutras and commentaries, is that mainly what this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Commentaries and sutras, yeah. And also then we have another things, we have tantra textbooks. Which is partly also the Suzuki Foundation has produced on some of the new translation with tantric texts been already produced. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is been preserved, and in fact, it is for sale. You can order them if you have money, direct from Tokyo, yeah. [Laughter; laughs] Yeah. And the commentaries are no longer regard as scholarly commentaries. That's one of the misunderstanding when we talk about the commentaries. It's not a scholarly thing. It is a very personal account of that particular master or teacher or guru had experience that particular text in his own experience of meditation practice -- as well as the reference point of other teachers as well. So, commentaries is no longer ordinary commentaries; they are experiential work of art. That's why they're very important. And we lost a lot of those -- in fact, I think probably only thing that we able to save out of Tibet is maybe sixty percent of the literature that been saved, but rest of them, they got destroy, very valuable ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=3338.0,3526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: How are the tantras different from the sutras?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=3526.0,3530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That requires another talk.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, when you're talking about repetitions [INAUDIBLE] cut through the logical mind and create the explosion. And then you say, for the Western man, you have to have it all [INAUDIBLE] logic, and more repetitious [INAUDIBLE]. Well, okay. The current logicians, you know, in the West, they abstract, they express things symbolically, in terms of mathematical symbols. And they extract that from language, experience. And their goal is to try to make it as language-free as possible. In other words, it's context free. How would a Buddhist approach that in terms of, you know, using logic? I mean in other words, logic today in the West is a-- is a total [INAUDIBLE] experience. The idea was to [INAUDIBLE] experience. Where would you go? [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that that's asking, you know, too much for Western logicians. That the complete logicians, the logicians who are on the level of Einstein are complete immersed themselves into that meditative state of logic. And that's something close to, as close as we can compare to the whole two traditions. As when somebody's obsessed with the whole thing, that even language doesn't make any point or the symbols doesn't make any point; but experience, that you are completely soaked in that experience. So that that seem to be the whole point. That that's why the meditators wrote commentaries on the sutras or the tantras, that because they are completely soaked and they are obsessed with the whole thing. And it's a different frame of work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, are you saying then in some sense the goal of this is some kind of obsession with abstraction? I mean, I don't think that's what you're saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, obsessed with the wisdom. Obviously, yeah sure. I mean, otherwise you can't develop a meditative state, which goes on all the time in your life. That obsession, but clarity at the same time, so you don't cross red light.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah, well that's the whole point. And the way it's done now is created absent-minded professor--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well that has become the problem, in fact. I mean that's precisely what the contribution of the Buddhism could be that absent-minded professors can be also minded professors at the same time. [Laughs] I mean, that's the precisely [laughing] the aim and object of contribution, greatest contribution that we could ever make. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=3530.0,3726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85057/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Probably we should switch into the discussion group sessions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Is that so?\nWould you say\n[INAUDIBLE] ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2252.89,2256.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85058/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't\nthink\nvery much actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575#t=2256.78,2258.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3467/collection_resources/161726/file/293575/transcript/85058/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is some reference\nto that mahayana 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