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Not always a straightforward path; students have trial periods of uncertainty, and learning. Need for complete commitment to tradition, not being frivolous; otherwise obstacles arise. Story of Marpa prostrating to \"magical\" display of mandala rather than human teacher, Naropa. Central importance of sense of humor, richness, celebration. \"Toughness\" of Marpa's teaching of two kinds of students -- those who are frivolous and those with total commitment -- as passed down in Kagyu lineage. Parallels between Marpa bringing Buddhism to Tibet from India and Buddhism coming to America. Trungpa Rinpoche offers tribute to Marpa for providing him with living guidelines for teaching."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["May 04 2020 to Jan 31 2022\nTranscribing: Sophie Perks\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Anne Seidlitz\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1975"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A talk about becoming part of the lineage, connects Marpa and his students with contemporary American students encountering the dharma. Not always a straightforward path; students have trial periods of uncertainty, and learning. Need for complete commitment to tradition, not being frivolous; otherwise obstacles arise. Story of Marpa prostrating to \"magical\" display of mandala rather than human teacher, Naropa. Central importance of sense of humor, richness, celebration. \"Toughness\" of Marpa's teaching of two kinds of students -- those who are frivolous and those with total commitment -- as passed down in Kagyu lineage. Parallels between Marpa bringing Buddhism to Tibet from India and Buddhism coming to America. Trungpa Rinpoche offers tribute to Marpa for providing him with living guidelines for teaching."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Life and Teachings of Marpa, held in Kensington, California at Williams College. This is talk number three, February 2nd, 1975. This is an ARP digital remaster made June 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the third and final talk from the seminar on the Life and Teachings of Marpa, given by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, in Kensington, California, on February 2nd, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=0.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose we could discuss the third stage level, of becoming a member of the lineage. In particularly connected with Marpa, and general applications to ourselves. And one of the interesting point is that there is a sense of a constant learning process; that the student have a difficulty in measuring his or her level of development. As far as the student is concerned, the level of development and spiritual growth becomes an enigma, because there was no particular goal and object was given, to develop a competitive notion of anything. So the question had become that the student usually would feel, that swimming through the outer space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=47.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In such is like the case of Marpa's life, and dealing with Naropa, is that there had been trial after trial. And the trial had been thought as the preparation to it, and somehow that the-- Marpa's tendency, of dealing with the disappearance of Naropa, or Naropa's stubbornness -- not as much as the level of that Naropa himself experience with Tilopa, but somewhat in the similar, in more concentrated level. That the trial period, at the same time intellectual learning process, had become still you feel as that you are still level of a student, complete student. And from that level of trial period, brings you into an interesting perspective, is that it's not just the preparation to the path, but actually fruition process; that the path-- goal is path at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=162.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that there is need for going along with what's been taught. And whenever there is resistance to going along with it, there is a problematic situation that develops, which is some kind of stumbling block, and one gets into trouble. But even then seem to be necessary, that you should get into trouble, and you had been so to speak spanked, smacked on the spot. And there is a lot of wisdom goes with that. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=263.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in other word that if we are completely frivolous, and we feel that we don't belong any particular lineage of discipline, and we feel that we are trying to pick up best of its essence, and nectars all over the country, all over the place, that somehow we run into big problem. That we are unable to see the complete merit of the whole thing. So therefore it is necessary and it has been absolutely necessary, and the traditional way of teaching, that a person has to make some kind of commitment, actual personal commitment. Either you are stuck with your particular master, and you are stuck with your particular path, and that particular style of the path. Later on you might have some otherwise thoughts. Only but those thought process had to become again and further frivolity, rather than insight particularly. That one of the tendencies that we usually have is that we don't want to be caught, but we want to be fed, at the same time. So that we have a problems with that; that on the process of trying to go forward towards being fed, and there is possibilities you might be caught in it as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=330.0,426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be the last problem that exist in dealing with the spiritual friend, or in this case the vajra master -- which is like Marpa's relationship to Naropa and so forth -- is that still sense of fascination, and expect that the spiritual-- vajra master would have some magical tricks up in his sleeves. And looking forward that to confirmation -- make sure that you feel better because you have made right kind of associations; that finally that happened actually. And also that another point is that, and you wanted to be terrified at the same time. And there is that sense of further heavy dosage of sweet and sour is necessary. You feel that you want to be terrified magically. And that those combinations of experience begin to bring a sense of confusion at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=426.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the cases of Marpa's life, that Marpa had been exposed to magical creation of mandala of Hevajra, and Naropa sitting next to it, and asked Marpa to choose, which one that he would prostrate. And Marpa's thought was that the, obviously, \"I don't see these magical mandalas very often, but I see my guru, my vajra master all the time. So I should take this great opportunity to prostrating to the magical creation.\" And that was apparently that the Marpa's family lineages broke down, and there was kind of distrustful in the lineage altogether; that his family lineage could not continue. Only his lineage as a spiritual heir could continue, like Milarepa and Gampopa and so on. And that was a kind of direct message, and angry punishment from the dakinis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=510.0,591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word that the spiritual search of that kind always look for divine possibilities. Relating with the \"divine this\" or the \"divine that.\" And they refuse to relate with the spirituality as human situation, or spirituality as samsaric situation in some sense. That the transcendence of samsara had to come from samsara itself, rather than somewhere else. Which has become big problem. And becoming acquainted with, or becoming part of the lineage members, or the friends of the lineage so to speak, whatever -- student -- that there is a sense of a need for giving up fantasies, and fantasies that leads to further dreams, and further magic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=591.0,664.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we find in this point, the such as like the myth of Don Juan, and other things had become extraordinarily promising. That we feel that there's something happening and we feel sort of we have [sic: are] relieved, that something does take place, and we are extraordinarily turned on to it. And that has become one of the problems. In fact rather than actual practicality, or promises of anything, and we have-- seem to have, according to the Buddhist tradition, the seduction of Mara's daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=664.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The only seems to be the basic magic that comes from sense of humor; at the same time a sense of awe-inspired perception. That awe-inspired perception does not go against sense of humor, and vice-versa. That awe-inspired situation is another situation, which has a sense of that you have actually made some kind of connection, to depth of the depth of your mind. To the level of your confusion as well. So that the awe-inspiration would feel [to] you awkward, and somewhat terrified at the same time. But nevertheless, still feel enriched at the same time; there's enormous richness takes place in that sense of awe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=717.0,783.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, on the top of that, that there's the sense of celebration, and a sense of humor, sense of joy, also takes place. Which is also another richness. So, indivisibility of awe-inspiration and the sense of joy, sense of humor, which seem to be the right kind of combination, in which that you could dance but you don't be-- you are not dancing frivolously. And your dance is majestic and heroic, but at the same time not stiff and stubborn, anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=783.0,826.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marpa's relationship to his students have demonstrated that there's a need for further toughness, in order to respect, in order to create awe-inspiration. And at the same time, the sense of celebration happens simultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=826.0,872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of Milarepa maybe that he was too much prone towards devotion, that he otherwise had might become candidate for the love and lighties. So Marpa was very powerful and very ungiving. That punished him, pushed through; building those houses, and throwing out of medit-- initiation circles. Which seem to be very important, in that more he tried, more he get rejected, which is a natural situation. If you're not ready for it it's a terrible thing to do. And completely-- signs of complete stupidity, un-perceptiveness or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=872.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the case of -- we are going beyond Marpa level I suppose -- but in the case of however, in the Gampopa's situation, that Milarepa had made enormous attempt to encourage him. As soon as Gampopa arrived, and his name is being Sonam, and \"Sonam\" means \"the wealth\" or \"merit\"; and he said is the “Sonam, Sonam, Sonam” -- repeat three times, and wealth for all sentient beings. And was quite a hospitable invitation for Gampopa. And in the Gampopa's case that he has been already exposed to the hassles of human nature; that not being exposed to further frivolity is not necessary there, impossible with him. So he was -- Milarepa's case he was very relaxing and very opening, and the hospitality was all over the place at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=927.0,1032.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that in the modern America, [laughs] and the modern vajrayana situation that met together at this point, here, in the twentieth century, that situation is mixed in some sense. That individual merits obviously operating simultaneously. And constantly certain students need to be pushed off from being accepted, and they should be-- need to be *discouraged* in fact. And some student might had need to be brought in together properly, and that kind of situation is always pervasive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1032.0,1091.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, there is general sense of caution, that some kind of sacrifice and some kind of giving, some kind of demand, is absolutely necessary. Rather than just let the students collect your instructions, like instead of collecting stamps. And that had to become almost important -- absolutely necessary. Particularly that the teachings begin to make further journeys, into the foreign territories, that there is no tradition exist. I suppose we be much tougher, once we get in Mars. [Laughter] And it does seem to be absolutely necessary; that there should be some sense of *harshness* at the same time: that make sure that the root has taken place properly, in the ground; that is to say, that depends on how much it has been plowed properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1091.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, letting not people take just on the face value on a celebration level alone, or just joining the party, in the level of getting free booze. [Laughter] Would become the propagating the teaching in the cocktail party level, which is against the family tradition, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1182.0,1216.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that seem to be Marpa's approach very strongly: particularly, we can regard this is Marpa's style, in fact in some sense; that Marpa's approach is very tough, extremely tough. And Marpa was not particularly trying to finish Milarepa to build his houses for him and then he will give great reward, particularly. But Marpa is waiting *deliberately*, so that psychologically he would go beyond his expectations, and altogether he is been tamed properly and thoroughly and fully. And that was the general kind of measure that-- of Marpa's approach to Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd in some sense that for us, we find Marpa's teachings much more -- style of teachings rather -- is much more workable. And realistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1216.0,1305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marpa's way of relating the world of Kagyu tradition has become one of the powerful statement in the guidelines to the rest of the orders of Tibetan Buddhism. And Milarepa's approach has become, again, interesting one, but at the same time it is kind of a child who grew out of the attitude of Marpa, and had able to adapt himself in his own level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1305.0,1363.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the essence of Marpa's teaching is that students should not use the teachings purely source of their entertainment, like collecting stamps. And those students who had actually felt personally, should be greatly welcomed. Not only just welcome them, but they should be made member of the family, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1363.0,1419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that represents the hot and coldness of the teachings at once. Which is a guideline for us in the twentieth century America, particularly. And I feel myself personally grateful that he set fantastic examples of how to propagate teaching, and how to *not* propagate teaching. Which makes the teachings have become a workable kind of a dough: that you can knead, that you can feel it; whether it's completely processed or not, that which makes the teachings workable. Rather than delicate artifice that we are dealing with. And it makes the whole thing less tip-toe-y. It's like plunging oneself into the mud, and whether you're going to slip out and break your ribs, by slipping and by placing your foot in the wrong place, or whether you get completely secure by plunging into that mud, will create security for you. And grateful what he did, to us. I feel very moved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1419.0,1531.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be very important to us: that Marpa was the person who built the traditional ethnic gap between India and Tibet. And also he had built the bridge, between the gaps of frivolity, frivolous student, and serious student. And maybe there's a frivolous student, but how to make them ripe, and actually become good students eventually. And he works his teachings like the real thing [laughs], rather than something purely mythical. And it's a process of actually farming, than anything else.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1531.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, in what sense have the sons superseded the father?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In what sense have the sons superseded the father?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sons supersede the...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The father -- Marpa.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think because that there is a sense of finally become a completely personal experience, more and more, and less Indianization, and more Tibetanization. As the generations develops, finally they begin to seeped into that kind of thing. Which we have to work ourselves here; and there is less Tibetanization, and more Americanization. That when the teaching becomes actually part of you, then you begin to *do it*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Do you feel that the problems of-- or the challenge of Tibetanization is the same as Americanization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see any problems particularly. We are not Americanizing Buddhism, in the terms of the pejorative sense. At least in this case, that we are not making lights flash mantras [laughter], and you can sit in a meditation cushion and something will zoom, by taking certain particular drug, or plugging into certain electricity force. And prayer wheels on the turntable, or [laughs] whatever you have. [Laughter; laughs] And I think there is the negative kind of Americanization doesn't apply here. It’s *real* Americanization, is that the mind of Americans had to be tuned into Buddhist mind. And therefore Buddhism has no nationality particularly, and it's real world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1596.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I was wondering if you could say more about Milarepa's state of mind, when he first came to Marpa. You implied that he was-- or I got the impression there was some frivolity, but I wanted you to say-- make that more explicit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it is frivolity actually, and helplessness: that looking for the best doctor to go to, the closest one, and asking for best teachers that you can find all over the country. And that has been the situation. That he studied with somebody else before he went to Marpa, and things somehow didn't work out, and nothing happened to him in other word. And then he had to go beyond that. Actually, interestingly enough, that person that Milarepa studied first before he met Marpa, was a Nyingmapa teacher, who claimed that, \"If you received instruction at night, in the evening, you attain enlightenment in the morning. If you receive instruction in the morning, you attain enlightenment in the evening.\" And no such thing happened to Milarepa. [Laughter] And the whole thing sort of gone flop. And then finally, that he said, \"Well it seems that nothing is happening to you with *me*. And maybe you should go to visit Marpa.\" And he went to visit Marpa. And *still* he is shopping, you know, which product to buy and what to connect with. Which is naturally open, you know, seem to be okay thing to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think part of the situation that was conducive to Milarepa, opposed to American students here is concerned, that there is no mass media; the teachers didn't put out their literatures in the newspapers. And in order to visit one teacher from one end of the country to another end, it takes ages to do that. And there is no mass transit system. And the whole thing become a very slow journey at the same time. But same kind of essence in fundamentally, that sense of spiritual shopping did take place. And finally that Milarepa was caught up with Marpa, who wouldn't let him go, but wouldn't teach him anything at all. [Laughter] And that is become very helpful for him, to do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How did he not let him go? Was that by offering some encouragement? Or what--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think he probably said that, \"If you go, you can go.\" But that made him feel bad. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1744.0,1942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I'm-- do you ever come across -- or I feel it in myself like sometimes being-- having both frivolity and seriousness in the same person. You know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that I think usually happens, that nobody is particularly labeled as frivolous person all the time or serious person all the time. Both situation take place simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So it's-- is it just knowing when to boot the person then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [Laughs] Just knowing when to kick the person, and when to encourage them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1942.0,1982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, we were told during the seminar that you requested that only Dharmadhatu students could receive interviews with you? And I'm particularly curious why you requested that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's partly because that people have more familiarity, in terms of what they're doing, their practice. And another thing is that seemingly trying to cut down too much shopping, in terms of the people not actually involved. And that's-- I suppose that's kind of an interesting situation. It's a... sort of bait. [Laughter; applause] [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=1982.0,2064.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, last night you talked about not mixing practices. Besides my sitting practice, I've been also keeping up a prayer that another-- a Sufi teacher had given me. And also I've been doing North Indian singing practice. Do you object to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You've been doing what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: North Indian singing practice too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: North Indian?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Singing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Singing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Do you object to doing that besides sitting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What is Sufi thing involve?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It involves an affirmation, asking just to-- for, you know, purified understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well I think it's not so much what *I* object particularly, basically speaking, but what happens in you. And we have to be extraordinarily pragmatic, rather than theoretical here. And I don't think there is any particular conflict, and I'm sure that you're going to be short-circuited and going to blow up [laughter] on one spot particularly. But at the same time, that the traditionally encouraged, is you have a main practice, one particular practice which you do. And put your effort and energy into that. And the rest of the other practices are kind of a contingency, goes along with that, a part of your awareness practice. If that can be worked out that way, it would be possible. Otherwise it's looks like having three wives at the same time, and there is all-- at the same time being bored [sic: born] their child of yours. And the world becomes [laughing] very-- the population begin to expand [laughter], and the pollution of spirituality begin to expand as well; goes along with the population.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2064.0,2185.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Last night you said that age eight and a half or nine was a good age for a little boy to-- or a child to start sitting practice. And I have a nine year-old boy. Sitting seems to help him when he gets too wound up. But I hesitate to send him away by himself, to sit down for a long time, because I'm afraid that it'll become discouraging for him, and later he won't *choose* to sit, because he'll have a resistance to it. Now is there some sort of technique that can be used to encourage a child to sit without building in a resistance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose you can sit with him. [Laughter] And apart from that if you give him candy if he sat [laughter], but somehow it doesn't work. Yet somehow that doesn't work [laughs]. And I think it's setting example by either of the parents, you know, it's usually feel good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well, we sit everyday. But he doesn't seem to want to, and I've told him that he's welcome to, if he wants to, but he doesn't seem in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's good enough; just leave it that way. I would do that way myself, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2185.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: When Marpa's son was killed in the horse accident, Marpa was extremely depressed, as far as I understand, and he was asked, \"If everything is illusion then why are you upset by this?\" and he said, \"Well this is *super* illusion.\" [Laughter] And I've never really understood that. [laughter] Could you explain it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think there is, in terms of understanding, is he wasn't depressed, he was straightforwardly upset. [Laughter] And another thing is that he had a lot of plans for him. And he begin to see everything is absolutely a sort of raving illusion, game that takes place. And he saw everything as-- that the world is turned upside down, because whole thing is so *dramatic*. And he had to sort of collect himself together. And so from that point of view, he is not particularly depressed, but he is perplexed: \"which is what, which is what, what is what,\" you know. And the two ends of the reality begin to meet together, and constantly short circuiting all over the place.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd from that point of view, that he was very *concerned* about that whole thing. But I wouldn't say he was depressed, or particularly, from that point of view even upset. He felt very softened, and he supposedly be very softened after that, long time. And from that point of view that he begin to then take on to Milarepa as heartfelt student, and that was some kind of instigator of it. That he should give up in a family lineage, but he should begin to teach more.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou know, I mean Marpa is just a human being, you know; he's not a divine figure and super human particularly. And that is the merit of the Kagyu lineage, is that everybody in the lineage are regarded as just a human being, who probably are highly tricked by... [snaps fingers] mahamudra. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2263.0,2406.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, you were speaking earlier about resistance, and I'm sort of concerned about the situation in which we find ourselves intellectually accepting the teachings, but encountering some resistance or lack of energy when it comes to practice. I wonder if you would say something about right effort in connection with that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Right effort in connected with the resistance? Well, I think there is no particular guideline. And right effort is basically idea of that, not producing further pollution. Psychologically, for yourself, as well as your colleagues you work with, whoever they are; in the business world, or whatever world that you're working with. [Laughs; laughter] I think that basically it is a question of developing some sense of awareness process, that what you do is based on the idea of mindfulness process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So you wouldn't make any direct effort to overcome the resistance but just note it? And be aware of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think awareness is very important. And not particularly trying to correct the situation as such, or trying *not* correct the situation as such particularly. But sense of going along, at the same time intelligently. The whole thing had to start from *you*, rather than trying to correct the world. You remember that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh yes. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2406.0,2512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yesterday you mentioned in regard to Marpa's wife, that something about she was too kind, and I wondered if you'd say something about that. And also about the importance of both people being on the path together; is that necessary in a relationship, and that whole issue?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in regards to Marpa's wife I wasn't particularly meant to spread the gossip about her. [Laughter; laughs] After all she is the First Lady of the Kagyupas. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nBut I think the situation is that sometimes, when you want to help *a lot*, and by doing so you help less. So consequently we find that we need to exclude certain people out of the environment, in order to receive greater benefit for them. And if we don't exclude them -- you know, leave everything to themselves -- they won't pull their socks up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So meaning they really have to be responsible for their own life rather than...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can make encouragement obviously, but at the same time that you have to make some kind of move towards that, you know, encouragement it doesn't make them impetus at same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Mhmm. And is it-- do you feel the importance of both people being on a-- on the same spiritual path in terms of furthering the teachings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Mhmm. I'm wondering if it's advantageous to be in a marriage or in a relationship where one person is committed to the spiritual path and the other one isn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, that is situation that we always constantly involved, in any case. And one wouldn't expect kind of family conversion, in mass media level particularly. Which is-- which would be false situation in any case. And I think the-- each others begin to create interesting situation: that the other person, your partner, would have very critical attitude to what you're doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And your involvement, your motivations, and everything. Which act as in fact further learning process at the same time. Which is another form of a teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Mhmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So if person begin to realize that, and that would be very interesting the other partner to realize that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2512.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche you spoke of dancing heroically, rather than stubbornly--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Dancing heroically, rather than stubbornly or frivolously. I was wondering if you could say more about the state of mind of that or is that, you know, related to the bodhisattva or other levels -- or just a level of mind -- on dancing heroically?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I'm afraid I think your guess is as good as mine. [Laughter] There's not very much to say particularly. It's just if you are there properly, you are there. If you are not there, you are not there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2708.0,2748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, you mentioned when Marpa's son died, he was being punished. I don't understand *how* there's the connection between what he did and the son dying. And do you think there are-- that there exists now those types of cause and effects?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's very direct and very immediate. And, that in other word what we're saying is that Marpa had already developed that kind of thread of ignorance; that he will be unable to take care of his child, not to get into the accident. So there is that kind of thread of ignorance still involved. You see what I mean? And so that could be sort of end product of -- or you could talk in terms of punishment. Or that's not particularly like, God condemning you particularly, but if you did some -- if you have that *inability* to dealing with something in the beginning -- prostrate to the wrong people. Which is prostrating to the magical show, rather than the guru himself. He had still faint discont-- faint continuity of confusion that goes on that he can't handle his own child properly in the other end. Is that clear?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2748.0,2845.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77282/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends, probably we should close this point, and [laughing] I feel very good that you came and we were able to share a lot of things together, and a lot of food, further food to eat, digest and process. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nHowever, that I would like to encourage great deal is sitting practice of meditation, in the fashion of further understanding of shamatha and vipashyana practice is absolutely essential, and absolutely necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf there are any shoppers involved here, who will try to pick up the best highlights of the what's been said and what's been discussed, and there are some copyrights for that, in the name of the lineage. And you should be very careful in using it again. And not only that there is the-- not only that somebody is watching for you, but something beyond that. Which is some sense of doubt, in imitating the style of the lineage, is absolutely ridiculous, and impractical. And there are dakinis and mahakalas and all the rest of the gang [laughter] *will* be watching your mind -- and your conscience, at the same time. So be careful in terms of frivolity, in the sense of if you want to borrow good idea, for another use. So, with the understanding of that, I would like to extend on behalf of our lineage, that warm welcome to the community of lineage, of the practicing discipline. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=2845.0,2989.871"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19750202VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=0.51,4.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Life\nand Teachings of Marpa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=4.7,7.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Kensington, California\nat Williams College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=7.14,10.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number three,\nFebruary 2nd, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=10.51,15.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade June 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=15.99,22.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This is\nthe third and final\ntalk from the seminar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=22.25,27.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the Life\nand Teachings of Marpa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=27.28,31.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given by\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nin Kensington, California,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=31.02,38.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on February 2nd, 1975.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=38.81,44.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose\nwe could discuss\nthe third stage level,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=47.5,54.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of becoming a member\nof the lineage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=54.28,63.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In particularly\nconnected with Marpa,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361#t=63.09,66.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144652/file/267361/transcript/77283/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and general applications\nto 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