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Beginning of the bodhisattva path involves acknowledging confusion -- start where we are, with confusion and sense of inadequacy, imperfection. Attitude of acceptance. From the basic ground of recognizing our confusion, negativity becomes a stepping-stone in the bodhisattva’s path. Lengthy Q\u0026amp;A, including discussion on nonduality.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 31 2020 to Jan 16 2024 Transcribing: Leandra Ziegler Checking: Sophie Perks Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003ePreparation for bodhisattva path begins with foundation of hinayana practice of making relationship with ego, as well as practice of mahayana Buddhism and its basic philosophy. Beginning of the bodhisattva path involves acknowledging confusion -- start where we are, with confusion and sense of inadequacy, imperfection. Attitude of acceptance. From the basic ground of recognizing our confusion, negativity becomes a stepping-stone in the bodhisattva\u0026rsquo;s path. Lengthy Q\u0026amp;A, including discussion on nonduality.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/664/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706492641","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1706492614_19720325VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2979.00388,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/226/664/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1706492641","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/226/664/original/1706492614_19720325VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1706492617","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2979.00388,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720325VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720325VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Bodhisattva Path - Talk 1] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled The Bodhisattva Path, held at Tail of the Tiger in Barnet, Vermont. This is talk number one, March 25th, 1972.\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom remaster made April 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar at Tail of the Tiger, March 1972, on the bodhisattva path, first lecture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As introduction to our seminar, the seminar is concerned of bodhisattva action and bodhisattva path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=32.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you hear me in the corner?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Not very well. Not too well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not too well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [UNCLEAR: Loudspeaker?] [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There isn't such thing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=50.0,69.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In terms of bodhisattva experience that we are going to discuss is extremely wide subject and very complex, in some sense, that involves of certain stages that we have to look into, before we could get into the basic ideas of how does mechanism of stages worked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=69.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So to begin with tonight, I thought I might present some basic ideas of bodhisattva's path. And that particular path involves practice, which had already achieved, already gone through the training process before the bodhisattva path evolved. Which is to say that person cannot achieve bodhisattva path before they get into the bodhisattva path. In other word, that they have to get into the practice of mahayana Buddhism as its basic philosophy, as well as they have to get into the practice of hinayana process of making relationship with their ego.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=105.0,172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we might discuss this tonight in terms of how bodhisattva could prepare as a bodhisattva. And this process, that the basic idea of spirituality is that spirituality in this case is maintaining basic intelligence. Because of this-- that basic intelligence that we work accordingly, either acknowledge it or inspired by it. So that basic spirituality, before we begin as bodhisattva as such, is that realize that we are already buddha, we have basic qualities of buddhahood, buddha activities, buddha intelligence within us already, in any case. In order to realize that is that there is possibility if somebody tells you say that \"you are already buddha,\" then natural thing is that we might say that \"I don't think I am buddha, because I have all these hang-ups. I don't think I am perfect, far from it.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=172.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's the basic starting point. So that is, you don't think you are buddha, that's fine. Let's start on that. Why do you think that you are not perfect buddha? What makes you that you are not perfect buddha? That which not make that you are the perfect buddha is the starting point, start on negativity. Which also based on what you like to be as perfect buddha. And you might say that \"I would like to be enlightened, free from emotions and everything,\" so forth, what have you. So that we have automatically set up dualistic question that what might be, what *is* unfortunately, what is. And what you might be in terms of positive things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=254.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question is starting from this point is what you might be inspired, generous, disciplined, patient person, and that psychologically paranoid, and highly involve with dualistic notion of schizophrenia, and all the rest of it. So the first start is that we have to look into what we are not, opposed to ideal, or in other word we have to experience what we *are* in terms of a negative situation. That what we *are* in this case is that we are extraordinarily confused to begin with -- not knowing who we are, what we are. And secondly that we are confused, we do not know how to find the stepping-stone. If we have ideal situation that we do not know how to collect, relation to situation to that particular collective situation at all. So we are constantly confused, fucked up so to speak, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=310.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So beginning of bodhisattva's path is to acknowledge that confusion that that pain that we go through of our ignorance, which is fantastic ground. That's beautiful -- that if we are confused, if we know that we are confused, if you sense that we confused, if you realize that that is confuse that we are going through, that's fantastic, beautiful. So we start on that basic ground, and we don't have to look for new ground to replace that negativity into positivity anymore at all. That we start where we are, we start from the imprisonment that we are actually imprisoned, that we are bounded by all these kind of imprisonment of samsara or whatever have you, whatever you like to call it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=390.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hmm. From that basic ground that we have established that we are confused people, fucked up person, extraordinarily confused, we do not know what we are, who we are, how we are, how we get into the situation of independence or freedom. That's fine, that's starting ground. And it seems that that particular starting ground in itself provide a stepping-stone: because we do not know what we are, who we are, how we get into the beyond that particular confusion, that we step onto that particular confusion and trying to walk over it. There's analogy of a bodhisattva's action, which is the man walking on the street and finally he finds a house entrance. He walks towards this entrance, he approach towards this entrance, and he find that he is getting *into* some particular situation where people lived, where people dwelled in. And he-- what he does is that he opens the door, he lifts up his right foot, put his right foot beyond the doorstep. And then he has a doubt whether he has done the right choice or not. That the bodhisattvas of first bhumi hang up by this particular choice -- whether that foot of bodhisattva, right foot of bodhisattva, is actually trod on that particular ground which is inside, or whether he is coming from outside. He is completely confused whether it is inside or outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=450.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that from that point of view seems that what approach that we are making is that basic bodhisattva's approach is that to work or walk onto this particular approach that what is your path or what isn't your path. That if you do not know what *is* your path, so what *isn't* your path is also path that you are questioning, you are walking [INAUDIBLE]. Which needs certain amount of softness of compassionate approach, as well as prajna quality of basic knowledge, transmitted knowledge of some kind is required. That what particular ground that you're walking on is also a ground because of therefore that there's no question about whether *this* is the ground or not. So whole thing from this point is seem to be rather vague. But at the same time that seem to be basic approach of bodhisattva's path -- that we have to discover the negativity is a stepping-stone as far as bodhisattva's path is concerned. That seem to be the basic attitude, the basic approach towards bodhisattva principles.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could have a discussion on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=560.0,647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche? Does one have to-- I mean like before you get into mahayana Buddhism, do you still-- you could still see the negativity and use that as a stepping-stone. I don't understand is that bodhisattva path, is there some type of clear awareness to be able to use the negativity and see it as a stepping-stone?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be naturally, yeah. It’s not question of that person aware of that he is trodding on the bodhisattva's path. But he trodding on himself, as far as the confusion is concerned. That confusion becomes the stepping-stone automatically. That is the only way that you could relate with yourself. That you are confused, you have no otherhandles no other possibilities. That whatever you trying to work out is that you-- your [UNCLEAR: attempt?] is being thrown back. When you're trying to make something, some kind of conclusions, some kind of intelligence search, search is been thrown back to you so that you are confused, so there's no hope. So that seem to be starting point automatically, which happens to us all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=647.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does the bodhisattva ever take a basis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Ever take a basis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basis meaning what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Basis of ground.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In this case he does, yeah. The starting point that \"*I'm* confused.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, I'm confused.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"I am confused with, I don't know what to do, I'm extremely bewildered.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And he takes that confusion as a basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well he *becomes* the basis -- there's no other way of doing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And from that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean like if you are poor, only that you can relate to someone else you are poor because you haven't got clothes, roof, and food to live on. Which is the only way that you can commune to the other person.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And he takes the confusion as a basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Confusion is basis -- there is no other basis apart from confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=731.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: And that confusion is duality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you have to be confused *of* something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does that confusion lead to nonduality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does that confusion lead to nonduality? Or is that confusion nonduality as itself, in itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That confusion *is* nonduality in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: In itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But don't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But you have to [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --don't lay trips on that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=804.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Is the confusion your basis of manure?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could say confusion *is* manure rather than basis of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is manure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And from that grows bodhi?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And from that grows bodhi?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That grows what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Bodhi.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Boredom?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Bodhi!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhi.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Bodhi leaf. Bodhi. Bodhi mala.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhi, oh. [Laughter] It depends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=865.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Does the bodhi grow like simultaneously, or like naturally, or does-- do you do something to make it come about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How do you do-- how do you make it come about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=920.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: You don't. [Laughter] I remember something [INAUDIBLE] said, he said: to force yourself in the bodhisattva path, do *not* force yourself. Is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds great. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How do you not force yourself? Do you let yourself go or do you cling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You just don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You just don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=934.0,962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Is that just saying both letting go and both clinging?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Both letting go and both clinging?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Letting go and what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And clinging.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be letting go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=962.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: But can you define \"nonaction\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nonaction is just boycotting.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You know what boycotting.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You mean not [INAUDIBLE] and not abandoning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Explain me what boycotting means, first, in the literal sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't know. I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody can explain about boycotting?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Nonparticipating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Having nothing to do with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Having nothing to do with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, having nothing to do with it, abandoning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And walking around with a picket sign, too. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=978.0,1025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: In the teaching of maha ati, I remember reading something about it transcends both letting go and abandoning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but that's the only way to do. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I don't understand that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be too early to understand that, it's rather what we are doing here. That we have a long way to go to understand that. Sorry. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1025.0,1067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Speaking about, I've heard you say that no one in America is-- has even gotten through hinayana. Are there clear signs when a person does get to the point of maybe considering the bodhisattva path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you could say that even philosophically that-- I wouldn't say America particularly as the Western world onto-- altogether are not ready for that particular thing. Because they approach the whole process as a searching process, game-- goal-oriented. And a particular practice that involved into it's kind of a game. So that people have-- very few people have the idea of actual ego, notion of ego. So that seem to be the problem. That search to spirituality, spiritual path, is not giving up ego as far as those people are concerned. Search for spirituality is to *gain* better person, become good person, become healthy person so that you could conquer your territory much further, that you become good person, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1067.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You wouldn't deny that there might be this or that person who isn't involved in like going to a guru or something the way we are here. Like we're just, you know, is just living whatever life they're into, who is a sort of, you know, like let's tune in and sort of develop-- karmically develop that way. Like somebody who might-- somebody that doesn't even come in contact with Buddhist or Hindu circles but just goes about his everyday life, so nobody would ever know about it, but it's just [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's possible, that's also possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I mean you would agree that there are [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, I mean Buddha was not Buddhist, Christ was not Christian. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, except that those people had a big following and were considered a religious leader. I’m talking about somebody who might, you know, like maybe that person's close acquaintances might in some way [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as they don't regard the whole approach is a spiritual practice or religious practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as they don't approach the whole thing as a religious practice, or spiritual search, or spiritual quest as such, then whole process seem to become safe. Because they have no labels to relate with, no pigeonholes built up. It's possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So like there could be like people like tulkus in this country--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --who are just not formally [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean like the Don Juan's philosophy for instance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don Juan. *Don Juan*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, that's unique in itself. That *is* enlightened attitude in some sense, depends on how Carlos Castaneda, what's his name, approach that he was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1156.0,1277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, does a sentient being who wishes to take on the bodhisattva path, does he have to reject like such poisons as hate and lust and jealousy and such things like that? Or does he accept them as energies? Does a bodhisattva accept them as energies or does he reject them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both, he accept energies or emotions -- that is his staircase, that is a bridge, that's his ladder.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But he doesn't reject?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But at the same time he rejects because it is being ladder, it is being staircase. It is artificial meaning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: At the same time he both accepts and he both rejects.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Hmm. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1277.0,1331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, is one of the-- to me it seems that one of the basic problems in the West is that we tend to overintellectualize everything. And that we look for ideas in everything we find. Do you consider this to be one of the major obstacles or confusions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's one of the problems, yeah. Because that process of intellectualizing that we have, have to fit into certain categories, certain mathematical precisions or whatever it may be. Which automatically excludes the intuitive understanding, which is a very problematic-- I mean for instance that you might find in Gurdjieffian work, whatever it may be. That kind of basis of society and the group quality of group mind, which could create some research work that everybody is a little scientist -- that they present some problems, so that therefore the group could maintain itself -- is quite dangerous situation this point. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1331.0,1432.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Intuitive feelings are very volatile though, and don't they--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: *Volatile* and don't they get translated immediately into thought? I mean thoughts [INAUDIBLE] mind--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the idea, that's ideal idea. But it is uncertain, really it is uncertain, how we do it or how we not do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1432.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, is confusion shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Commission what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is confusion shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes and no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes, no?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes *and* no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes and no. How can you define \"shunyata\" then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then how can you say \"yes and no\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you have to defend-- if you have defined shunyata, that cease to become shunyata. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: If you just define shunyata it becomes shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Cease* to become shunyata.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It ceases.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well then confusion and then everything else is shunyata.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Everything arises from yourself, is that shunyata? No? Everything around you, is that shunyata? What does \"shunyata\" mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. [Laughter] \"Shunyata\" literally means \"nothing.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But doesn't shunyata take the form of everything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. That's why it's shunyata.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It takes the form of nothing then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is shunyata beyond the mind or is it *is* the mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It is nothing. It is neither the mind or it is beyond the mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter] That's what Heart Sutra says, anyway. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then how can you realize shunyata? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You can't? [Laughter] Well then how does a bodhisattva force himself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How does a bodhisattva what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How does a bodhisattva *not* force himself? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He doesn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then he takes nothing as a basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And then that is absolute nonduality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: For that matter you could say it is duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because it is nonduality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then nonduality and duality both exist in shunyata?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Form is empty, emptiness is form. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1456.0,1599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there any teaching besides the prajnaparamita that teaches one to realize that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, there is mahamudra and maha ati and all the rest of it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is mahamudra all that is happening now? All that manifests, all the energy we have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes and no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --is mahamudra?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes *and* no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes and no?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And then what is maha ati?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What isn't the maha ati? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And by not forcing himself, the bodhisattva can realize these things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: By *not* forcing himself, can a bodhisattva realize mahamudra and maha ati?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Somewhat?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does he need to take a guru for further teachings to realize this?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It depends?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1599.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can you define like the ten stages of the bodhisattva path? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can you say and can you speak about -- really, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, really.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: If you can, if you can say a little bit about the ten stages of the bodhisattva path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We're going to go through, in our seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are going to go through in our seminar. Why don't you wait?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1660.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Don Juan speaks about several obstacles. And the first of which is fear and the second of which is clarity. Could you speak about clarity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, Don Juan speaks of clarity is more of obstacle as I see it. That he doesn't believe as really clarity. It is just seeing things as extraordinary, accentuated form of hallucination, which is \"clarity\" as Don Juan puts that in his work, you see in his writings or whatever it may be. So that kind of clarity is not really clarity, but it is clearly seeing the obstacles as it is, the hallucinations as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Sense of clarity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Potential, one might say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Clarity rather than clarity as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You're using confusion as the first step -- the way we use that is to see confusion, I mean, in the same sense of seeing the hallucination play out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well that seem to be one of the very extraordinary things that coincided with Don Juan's point of view and basic Buddhist idea is that confusion is the only clarity that you can see.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So the first struggle is to just focus clearly on the confusion--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On the confusion, precisely, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's very profound, that's very tantric in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1693.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: The bodhisattva path is one of self-recognition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does the bodhisattva path evolve naturally--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean by \"self-recognition\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: I am not a natural being in the present confused state. And to recognize the fact that I am confused says that I am not natural now. And the bodhisattva path would be if I can relax enough to get past what I try to make the world -- would I be on the bodhisattva path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Doesn't sound like it. Something more than that -- it's not as simple as that. There is the living situation is more important as far as bodhisattva concerned, much more than your philosophy, your metaphysical view of the thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But it's not a recognition, it's actualization?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, recognition is not actualization, but recognition of earth is actualization in some sense. The actualization become a dream, some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1801.0,1879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Could you talk a little about the dharmakaya, or taking refuge in it? [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well dharmakaya is from this point of view is a purely mental situation in which mind become purely a realm that things could exist. And dharmakaya might be said as cognitive mind, all-pervading cognitive mind, in this sense. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1879.0,1964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, does all duality spring from the mind, or is it conditioned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you’re saying the same thing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, I realize that, you know, but you know in Western point of view like people believe that like is it conditioned in them by their parents and then by society. I mean where they like they have duality in their mind. Like I am very sincere like to know the teachings that-- so you can see beyond that, so you can see like, you know, beyond that duality, so you can see that duality as nonduality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well conditioned mind automatically means that that which labels subject and object.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is condition that if I'm \"me,\" therefore I am not \"you\"--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --is conditioned mind. From that conditioned mind, you could have other exposure of philosophical, metaphysical understanding -- that I'm not \"me,\" therefore things are not they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Right, but how does one see beyond that concept?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both are concepts. If you see I'm not \"I am\" therefore things are not they are also conditioned mind. It is also confusion, actually.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does one’s confu-- like accept that concept as like \"I am here and you are there,\" and then sees the nonduality there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's very silly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well then how do you see beyond that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't see beyond anything, that's the whole point. You don't try to *compare* anything at all. You don't say, \"I am not because things are not as they are\" at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you concept-- do you accept the condition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, in its ultimate sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh huh. And then you accept every--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as nonduality concerned, there's no statement of anything at all. It's not stated in a logical analysis at all. Therefore it is said in the Heart Sutra, \"form is empty, empty is form\" and \"form is not emptiness is not in the form.\" So finally you are-- have nothing to live on, nothing to dwell on, absolutely blank.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1964.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: If form is shunyata, and shunyata is form, then that means everything is *shunyata* right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: No, I'm not understand, then why do they say \"emptiness is form\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because form is emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well then emptiness is everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughter] Because emptiness is form. You can't get away from that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: No?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You go in circle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does empti--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Form is empty, empty is form, empty is form, empty is form, form is… [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2130.0,2170.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Does energy manifest as form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does energy manifest as form?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And then form can take any manifestation, it can take like a bad manifestation or it can take a good manifestation, is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then you must accept either good or bad is the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You *don't* accept it but then it's the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't accept even the sameness. [Laughter] You have nothing to dwell on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: By not accepting it, can you understand it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2170.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: By not accepting it can you understand it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the ultimate understanding, *prajna*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: By not accepting it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's why it is called \"prajna\" rather than just \"jna.\" \"Pra\" means \"transcending\", \"jna\" means \"knowledge.\" So, that knowledge which transcends that knowledge, which is *prajna*. It is said that the bodhisattva do not dwell on anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Then nothing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That doesn't mean to say that he is not dwell on the dwelling.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: He's not even dwelling on the dwelling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nondwelling.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: He's not even dwelling on the nondwelling.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2203.0,2245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, you said the first step of the bodhisattva is confusion of whether or not he's going to make this step.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You said earlier tonight in your talk, the first step of the bodhisattva, or the first bhumi, is the confusion of whether or not he is making the right choice of making this step. Earlier tonight -- did I understand you correctly? Is that the way the path goes from there on? is it the recognition of more and more? I mean like if he's walking on the path and he sees-- should be able to see what's not on it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He should see?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: What's not on the pa-- he's going to walk on the-- say that he makes a choice--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say even that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: You wouldn't say even that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The walk on [UNCLEAR: his? this?] path is what nots on path, which is also dwelling on nothingness, which is inherently nihilistic attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] In the beginning, it’s even on the first step--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no beginning from that point of view, it's just \"yes\" or \"no.\" It's you're on the path or that you're not on the path, there is no compromise as far as that is concerned, it's very severe. That is called \"a sword of Manjushri,\" which cuts without any discrimination.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Let me go back to this first step where he's confused as to whether or not to make a step, it's the right step.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't make \"right\" or \"wrong\" choice, but you step on the step.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: [UNCLEAR: That? Because?] you stepped on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So it's no decision at all. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2245.0,2359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, does a bodhisattva take as understanding anything that happens, like in the nothingness, I mean, anything that happens in space whether like through like our condition whether we think it is good or bad, if it happens and the bodhisattva accepts it, is that true?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bodhisattva accepts, but at the same time, bodhisattva doesn't accept. He rebels.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there any way you can clarify that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bodhisattva *accept* as things as they are in the given situation. But at the same time, bodhisattva rebels, things are not as they are. That's the process of his journey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I can't accept that [laughter] because that like-- that's like rejecting, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Isn't that rejecting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not at all. That's the most form of acceptance that you can ever have, highest form of acceptance is accept but reject at the same time simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is that dealing with your own concepts or is that dealing beyond your own concepts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because concept and nonconcept are also accepting and rejecting as well at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2359.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In the traditional teaching it talks about the vows of that the bodhisattva takes. And if he never decides to make this step, how does he come about to make these vows?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because he takes the vows on the non-basis ground of anything. That there's no further ground of anything at all for him. Therefore he takes vows to accept or nonacceptance as ground, both sense, simultaneously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Doesn't he take vows *not* to do something, which-- because like to take vows not to attain enlightenment until everyone else does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: --because if he seeks enlightenment, its off his path.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well this is what I've been kind of asking, then. How does-- what does the discrimination to see what's on and what's off, where does this come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't have discrimination, in this case. You have understanding of discriminating mind is also nondiscriminating mind as well at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Then taking the vows must arrive spontaneously, it's not a matter of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's just ecological process, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2439.0,2507.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Does the bodhisattva path like evolve naturally or does it come about by some effort?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He hasn’t seen things as ecological process, as well as he have to discipline himself to see ecological process as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2507.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I'm wondering about the-- or the connection between confusion and pain. It seems as though that the process of acknowledging one's confusion, pain has a lot to do with it. Either one is not acknowledging one's confusion in order to avoid acknowledging the pain, or finding that the pain gets so great that you have to acknowledge it. Is pain the same thing as confusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pain *is* confusion, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Pain *is* confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pain *is* confusion. I mean otherwise you can't have the pain, because the pain usually means there's a conflict between your mind and your psychosomatic body and your environmental body. And having failing to relate with your relationship with dualistic mind, cognitive mind, that cognitive mind relate with the psychosomatic mind -- which is called \"psychophysical body\"-- which transfers to the environmental body that we are actually dwelling on, which creates the sheath onto your psychosomatic body. And once you have the conflict of all three of them, then pain begin to start. So that *is* the suffering, that is the confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Discipline--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2538.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: When you said earlier about the man approaching the door and putting one foot across the threshold, and you say that the-- even through the decision of whether they enter or not enter, that the bodhisattva would not decide? Did you say that? I didn't-- in other words, I didn't know if that's been said or not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Entering into what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: You... I mean the illustration of someone entering a door with their right foot in and then they don't know whether to enter or not enter.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right yeah, it's a dubious situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: And then from that point do you make a decision or you don't make a decision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, both saying the same thing. When you decide not to make a decision that decision happens. Or when you make a decision that indecision begin to cease to exist. It's saying the same thing in some sense. Finally you find the bodhisattva that are walking into the room, just forgetting all confusions. \"Should I go, shouldn't I do it?\" It just doesn't matter, it just happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2626.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: When you talk about the knowledge that transcends knowledge, like, do you think that that knowledge can be imparted by a perfect teacher? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as you don't relate with the teacher as extraordinary or external teaching.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That knowledge becomes *your* knowledge, that you being able to get into it because it is not a foreign element enter into your system, but it is awakened of your system. So as long as that involvement of external help and purely external, hundred percent external person, then it can't be done, because you are too involved with the external situations, constantly. That you are not able to relate with your awakened process as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well but that shouldn't-- that knowledge, it would imply that it was being [INAUDIBLE], that it was everywhere.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it should be, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So therefore, from this point of view, that external person cease to exist and it becomes part of you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Or do you become part of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat.[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: That's [INAUDIBLE WORDS] of giving an answer that cancels itself out, isn't it to create--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --so you don't have any answers any more left -- no questions are left either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2704.0,2828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63996/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should have a discussion tomorrow. And I hope that whole process of this particular ground that we are discussing tonight of bodhisattva's search -- the searching is not searching, therefore it is searching process, as far as the bodhisattva is concerned -- it seem to be very important part, it plays very powerful, important part. And because of that, therefore there is stages of bodhisattva process do exist. Because bodhisattva starts with its cognitive mind to begin with, the cognitive mind functions related with the body, psychosomatic body or psychophysical body. That also related with the physical body or environmental body as well at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the direction of the bodhisattva is dependent on the chain reaction process -- how a bodhisattva relate with the external world, how a bodhisattva relate with the emotional body, which is psychosomatic body, and how to solve the problems, how to not solve problems, which transfer to mind-body or the mind itself. It cling to mind itself. So that kind of threefold process of basic bodhisattva's path seem to be very important then. We'll be discussing that in the next seminar. That coming seminar that we'll be discussing of stages of bodhisattvas, which is related with the environmental body, relating with the compassionate world. And also bodhisattva, how they relate with the psychosomatic body, mind-body, of dealing with the emotions and how bodhisattva deal with the cognitive mind body, whatever you like to call it, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I think that perhaps we should have a good discussion tomorrow before our meeting begins and then could sort some things out. And it is always good to present the such ideas of very precious thing, very definite thing as the bodhisattva path, which is very basic teachings of whole Buddhism -- mahayana Buddhism anyway. That to begin we could start with the confusion of all the two different element is very good at beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=2828.0,2979.00388"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720325VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=0.73,5.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Bodhisattva Path,\nheld at Tail of the Tiger\nin Barnet, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=5.59,9.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number one,\nMarch 25th, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=9.94,13.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is a CTI custom\nremaster made April 2023.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=14.31,18.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward]\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,\nseminar at Tail of the Tiger,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=18.61,23.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"March 1972,\non the bodhisattva path,\nfirst lecture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=25.73,32.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nAs introduction to our seminar,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=32.85,40.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the seminar is concerned\nof bodhisattva action\nand bodhisattva path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=42.88,49.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you hear me in the corner?\nAUDIENCE:\nNot very well. Not too well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=50.59,55.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not too well.\nSPEAKER1:\n[UNCLEAR: Loudspeaker?]\n[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=57.32,59.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThere isn't such 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Does one have to--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=647.84,651.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean like before\nyou get into mahayana","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=651.79,653.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Buddhism, do you still--\nyou could still see\nthe 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Bodhi mala.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=902.09,904.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nBodhi, oh.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=904.98,911.435"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It depends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=914.32,919.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nDoes the bodhi grow\nlike simultaneously,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=920.11,923.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or like naturally, or does--\ndo you do something\nto make it come about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=923.17,927.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.\nSPEAKER3: Both?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=927.03,930.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nHow do you do--\nhow do you make it come about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=930.75,933.049"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don't.\n[Laughter]\nSPEAKER3: You don't. 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Do you let\nyourself go or do you cling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=954.99,958.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYou just don't.\nSPEAKER3: You just don't.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=958.76,962.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nIs that just saying both\nletting go and both clinging?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=962.5,965.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both what?\nSPEAKER3:\nBoth letting go\nand both clinging?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=965.34,968.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nLetting go and what?\nSPEAKER3:\nAnd clinging.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=970.43,973.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nThat seem to be letting go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=975.81,981.115"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nBut can you define \"nonaction\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=983.668,985.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nNonaction is just boycotting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=987.16,989.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nI don't understand that.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYou know what boycotting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=991.09,994.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nYou mean not\n[INAUDIBLE] and not abandoning?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=997.138,1001.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Explain me\nwhat boycotting means,\nfirst, in the literal sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1001.2,1006.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nI don't know. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1006.95,1009.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nAnybody can explain\nabout boycotting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1009.06,1011.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: Nonparticipating.\nSPEAKER5:\nHaving nothing to do 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mind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1399.11,1403.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which could create some research\nwork that everybody\nis a little scientist --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1403.48,1408.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that they present some problems,\nso that therefore the group\ncould maintain itself --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1409.89,1414.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is quite dangerous\nsituation this point.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1415.02,1422.431"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Intuitive feelings\nare very volatile though,\nand don't 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mind--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1438.62,1442.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell, that's the idea,\nthat's ideal idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1442.57,1446.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it is uncertain,\nreally it is 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shunyata?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1495.28,1497.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No? Everything around you,\nis that shunyata?\nWhat does \"shunyata\" mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1499.22,1504.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\n[Laughter] \"Shunyata\"\nliterally means \"nothing.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1505.01,1508.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: But doesn't shunyata\ntake the form of everything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1509.62,1513.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nNo. That's why it's shunyata.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1514.35,1516.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nIt takes the form\nof nothing then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1517.9,1520.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1520.74,1523.658"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Is shunyata beyond\nthe mind or is it\n*is* the mind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1529.53,1533.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing.\nSPEAKER3:\nIt is nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1533.12,1536.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is neither the mind\nor it is beyond the mind.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1536.11,1543.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what\nHeart Sutra says, anyway.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1543.35,1549.033"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nThen how can you\nrealize shunyata?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1551.18,1553.035"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't.\nSPEAKER3: You can't? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1553.035,1558.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well then how does\na bodhisattva\nforce himself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1561.133,1564.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nHow does a bodhisattva 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1648.64,1652.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nDoes he need to take a guru\nfor further teachings\nto realize this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1652.31,1656.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends.\nSPEAKER3: It depends?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: 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dharmakaya,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1879.8,1883.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or taking refuge in it?\n[INAUDIBLE WORDS]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664#t=1884.38,1892.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/121526/file/226664/transcript/63997/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nWell dharmakaya is from\nthis point of 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