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Trungpa Rinpoche describes very accessibly the four types of ignorance, the five skandhas, and five emotions. The second part focuses on practical ways in which meditation powerfully works to unravel or \"unlearn\" those processes, and thus free us from confusion and karma. A long and interesting Q\u0026amp;A goes deeper into the specifics of meditation, how to work with the emotions, how the teacher helps one on the path.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 28 2018 to Dec 24 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Matilda Perks Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis substantive two-part talk, which took place on the well-known Zen teacher and writer Alan Watts' houseboat, is noteworthy for its presentation, in part one, of a detailed, clear, comprehensive outline of the Buddhist view of how ignorance and ego start, how they function to create the emotions, and how the emotions then perpetuate karma and samsara. Trungpa Rinpoche describes very accessibly the four types of ignorance, the five skandhas, and five emotions. The second part focuses on practical ways in which meditation powerfully works to unravel or \"unlearn\" those processes, and thus free us from confusion and karma. A long and interesting Q\u0026amp;A goes deeper into the specifics of meditation, how to work with the emotions, how the teacher helps one on the path.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/491/small/open-uri20250521-778-jmrw7n?1747839515","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20250521-778-4io978.mpga"]},"duration":9702.89631,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/273/491/small/open-uri20250521-778-jmrw7n?1747839515","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/273/491/original/open-uri20250521-778-4io978.mpga?1747839515","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":9702.89631,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710515VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710515VCTR1 - Public Seminar - 1971 - Sausalito - Battle of Ego II - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Battle of Ego II, held on Alan Watts's houseboat in Sausalito, California. This will be Talk One, afternoon, May 15th, 1971. This is an ARP digital remaster made January, 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: May 17th, 1971, Alan Watts hosts Chogyam Trungpa on the USS Vallejo in Sausalito, for a seminar on The Battle of the Ego, recorded by Brahmacharya Productions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=0.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --it's the first step of trying to establish one's existence as what you are. But that means ignoring the whole basic quality of open space as it is. And that's what's called ignorance. It's not really ignorance in the sense of stupidity, unintelligent, but ignorance in the sense of ignoring what was. Doesn't want to look back, because you are so involved with what's happening, at that very moment -- at this very moment of that situation. That's what's called the \"basic ignorance\", which purely contains a freezing, rather than doing anything; trying to freeze the whole space, trying to solidify space. In terms of open space, you make whole space as concrete wall, so to speak; freezing, solidifying, make something tangible. That's the basic, very primeval -- relatively speaking -- primeval ignorance, of ignoring what you are by just purely taking the chance of situation as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=51.0,148.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's a second type of ignorance which arises from that, is that somehow that you manage to freeze the whole space, and manage to solidify the whole thing. But at the same time, that you would like to see some potential for playing with it. That's what's called \"ignorance born within,\" ignorance that can-- as soon as ignorance took birth of its shape. It's realizing that cunning quality that you could play a game, you could really fool about with -- or play about with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=148.0,192.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's in that point where there is the notion of samsara and nirvana takes place. Nirvana, or enlightenment, notion of enlightenment, happens to be there, because there's the opposite of it. That's why the ignorance born within, and the wisdom born within, the notion of the term, what's called the \"wisdom born within,\" also took place, because there's ignorance born within as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=192.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then beyond that, there's what's called \"the ignorance of conceptualizing,\" ignorance of form. In other words formulating that potential of playing with one's ignorance, in order to establish one's existence as \"I am what I am.\" In other word it's sort of two stages as just appeared \"I\", \"I\". And third stage was sort of, you're bound about to see the question of the necessary and the possibility of saying \"am\", begin to develop. So then \"I\" is not quite enough; have to say \"am.\" That's the third stage of ignorance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=241.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the next process-- well, let's get back to this five skandhas, when Buddhist philosophy talks about five skandhas. And the first thing in five skandha -- one of the five skandhas is \"form\", \"rupa.\" And this kind of form is not really in the sense of form as body, in the ordinary sense, but it's mind-body situation, which is in itself a duality, as it developed in that first and second and the third stage of ignorance. Now, you have to say \"am\", that means solidifying yourself as independent person living and being. If that is already established, then there must be projections outside as well, which is a natural process. You can't exist by not comparing yourself with something else. And such process has developed as it is. And that is the form, rupa, the form, skandha of form. In other word, the duality of \"this\" and \"that\" creates the existence of form as it is, whether form is big or small, it's a long one or whatever is may be. All kind of logical notion is developed of this form; mind-body cycle, physical, psychosomatic as well. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=299.0,410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What shall we do next then? How do we establish our existence, if we're playing that game of ego? That is now we have \"I\", out of nowhere, somehow there is \"I\" made the list. Because of that there is \"am.\" And then what, \"I am what?\" And that's the second development of skandha -- feeling. A feeling in a sense of trying to establish frantically territory, area: \"If I am here, I must have a place to live, place to sit. So I could prove myself more 'I am, I am.'\" That's the feeling. Feeling in the sense of kind of organic way, antenna, sort of using one's antenna, like insects, ants, and beetles would do. Trying to feel the ground. Automatically when you try to establish your ground as ground, there *is* ground. Then, automatically the next process is, of course, \"are these grounds hostile or friendly ground?\" That's the perception, trying to perceive situation as it is; that's the next skandha. Trying to perceive situations as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=410.0,543.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Having already established the feeler, and feeling, automatic thing is of course working with the *texture* of this whole new environment that we have managed to freeze and managed to solidify. And only thing to do is just trying to explore the territory of this solidity; whether it is rough one or whether it is a dispelling one, or whether it is inviting one, whatever is may be. Perceiving situations, trying to perceive it. And immediately out of that perception, perceiving situation, of that skandha, then we are thrown back to [speaking Pali] \"samkhara\" [Sanskrit = samskara], or \"creation.\" Creation or samkhara in the sense of intellectualizing the *whole* thing. You see, the whole process is trying to establish one's existence, trying to prove one's existence, trying to bring everything more and more out and out, until there's nothing could attack us at all. That was the idea of ego. Whether this is valid or not that's another the question. But that somehow happens that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=543.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And samkhara is a process of creation. Creation in a sense of intellectualizing, and trying to associate with a form, concept, ideas. In other word, up to that point whole thing becomes very *defensive* process, as though somebody's just trying to establish himself into new town. And trying to find a house and trying to find food and trying to find a way of finding this place where he is living. And next is samkhara process is he is trying to now-- having established his place, he is trying to communicate, he is trying to find interesting spots of the town. Either in terms of person or else terms of place to go about. It's kind of entertainment in a sense. Which also makes his existence much more powerful, supposedly. And that's kind of intellectualizing, or the intellect, plays important part. Form and concept, as things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=630.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow that conceptualizing things are not quite enough, from point of view of ego. And next automatic process is of course, how we going to survive? How are we going to use these process of-- environment as part of the entertainment? Then, \"consciousness\" begins -- the last of the skandhas, collections. Traditionally there are eighteen types of consciousness: of six sense organs, and six sense perceptions, and six sense projections. And this consciousness is, again, mind-body, psycho-physical process; mind-body process. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=717.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that consciousness, and mind-body process, and then what's called \"five emotions\" or \"five poisons\", whatever like to call it, is begin to develop. How \"kleshas\", a Sanskrit word, \"klesha\", means, \"that which makes you bewildering,\" \"bewilderment.\" Extremely fascinated, and at the same time becomes bewildering. Such sharp color of passion just happens as it is, and almost that that passion is taking you over. It's so *fantastic*, extremely *bright*, and colorful; bewildering. Pride -- same thing -- and all the other things: desire, passion, pride, anger, jealous, ignorance. But this case of consciousness connected with the five kleshas are somehow quite different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=803.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry to mention so many numerology, numbers and categorizing things, but I think it's necessary to see some kind of pattern, if we're looking into total situation as things as they are. But all these five types of kleshas are a process of bewilderment. That one *can't* control yourself, but have to really get through it, get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=895.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But yet the subtlety of these each desires plays important part. It seems the first process of these emotions begins from pride, with of course basic ignorance. But ignorance in a more specific sense, of basic situation. Of you don't want to look right or left, but you want to just go along, like hungry pig. As though you had blinkers on, you just walk on and eat, whatever comes in front of his nose, chew it, and then go on with next process. Just go along. Doesn't matter what you're doing, how you're doing, but thing is just eat. [Laughs] Is kind of ignorant principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=942.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next thing is pride, of such achievement, is being extremely powerful and realistic. \"I have managed to prove my egohood. I am over twenty-one so to speak [laughs]. That I have achieved what I wanted and have done it, I got it.\" Pride. And next thing is, somehow there's not quite enough. \"If I am what I am, and I have achieved what I would like to achieve, in order to maintain that property, I must collect some more.\" That's passion. \"That I must seduce and use my pride and my dignity, in order to enrich me. So the only thing to do is to seduce world outside, for *my* side. Worth making friends, worth making everybody my side.\" Passion, grasping, magnetizing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1010.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next thing develops is envy. I don't know, probably envy is not quite right term in this connection. Quite possibly we could say it in terms of paranoia. In terms of, \"If I've achieved such and such thing. If I managed magnetize in such and such way, the only thing to do is compare my speed to somebody else's speed.\" Sort of racing, the speed. \"That I must be more efficient than anybody else, who is doing the same thing.\" That kind of efficiency, and paranoid with other people's achievement, other things have become more efficient than you have-- could have done. The five kleshas have developed that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1101.0,1176.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next one is the aggression, anger, comes last. \"If anybody intrudes on my property, my directions, then I'm going to destroy them or kill them.\" It's not so much of anger as just a general anger, but it's anger of losing it, like trying to get meat out of a cat. And automatic reaction would cat would do is spring on you, or jump on you, trying to take it back. In the case of very neurotic and hungry cat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1176.0,1226.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the five kleshas had developed that way. But on the whole, that whole process of ego -- form, feeling, perception, intellect, consciousness -- are *largely* based on paranoia, fear. Which means pain, like same as the first-- we talk about \"duhkha\", or suffering, in the four noble truths. It's the basic paranoia, of losing one's discovery, of something that you have achieved something, and afraid of losing that. And it's extremely based on fear, paranoia. And often it takes shape of claustrophobia because you run out of experiences, of creative process in life, and the whole thing becomes too familiar. And somehow one would like to look out more adventures, of providing some kind of variations. And this particular point where the basic neurotic thoughts functions important part, along with the five kleshas. That is to say, discursive thoughts and private cinema-show type of thoughts, and grasshopper-like thoughts. [Laughs; laughter] And all these things makes sort of filling, padding to this basic emotions that we have continuously going on. And the whole process of why all this is known as samsara, is because all this is connected with chain reaction of karma, which has established right at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1226.0,1364.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, karma cannot develop as it is. If you're going to develop *anything* you have to have father and a mother, parents, and parents produce children. So whenever there is, at the beginning, \"something that I have to hold onto,\" is \"I\", and \"something is my projection.\" Relation to that is process of projections; \"am\" or whatever would like to call it. Having developed those two -- \"me\" and \"that\", then automatic process is not so much of just go along spontaneously but everything's deliberately. Depends on some situation, depends on some particular ideas, concepts, like going through five skandhas, we have developed, already sown the seed of karma, of interdependent chain reaction of cause and effect, has developed. And it been maintained by not only at the time of five kleshas, but also maintained throughout process of neurotic thought process, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1364.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seems to be the basic process how the ego is manufactured, so to speak. And how it developed, out of nothing, out of nowhere. But it's not just good to say it's nothing and nowhere\" It seems to be something and-- something but nothing. So therefore worth looking into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nCould have a discussion, if you like. Questions on that subject. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1454.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I would just like to ask [INAUDIBLE]. What do you mean by karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, as we discussed already that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Maybe I missed it. Is karma your past catching up with you, or is it what you do now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's like playing game of chess. That whatever you've done, wherever you are at the moment, is a-- has connection with what you have done. And what you going to do for the next move is purely determined by seeing the situation of where you are. Whether you going to lose it or gain it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Is there any advantage in winning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Is there any advantage in winning?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, unless that you drop whole game out. [Laughs; laughter] Person would be more inspired to play another set of game of chess, because you have won.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Mmhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] If you lost, then you hope that you will win next time if you play, and thing goes on and on. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah, yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If we got-- becomes very boring if you know how to win.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could, I mean if you're really expert. But then, yeah, it means nothing. Have to look for another game. Go. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah, Go. Yeah, three dimensional Go. Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1501.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think Jean has a question. I can tell--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --by the look on her face.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Oh, I was just thinking about it all. Thinking where is there to go? And I love that book [ZEN MIND] BEGINNER'S MIND; that's the way I'm trying to live. Like Maharishi says, \"Where am I going?\" \"With God.\" \"Well where am I going?\" I don't know anything about that off and on business I always hear Alan talking about [INAUDIBLE]. Laughing is fine. And I often wonder about that. That's one-- well, about the only thing I haven't I figured out a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which one's that?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: You tell him, Alan. [Laughter] Well, what I want to know is that that black and white all in the ego, good and bad, all in the ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Yes, that's all I wanted to know. There isn't any good or any bad, really.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite. We'll come to that subject next time--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Good.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --continue.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: That's all I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: --was wondering about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That's meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: The silent mind, stop thinking, correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite, yeah. [Laughter] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1622.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I didn't really understand what you were saying about beginning of ignorance, the freezing and filling up of the space. I think maybe it was a little too abstract. I was wondering if you could explain it further.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Abstract? [Laughs] Maybe it was. But you see the whole point is in knowing that you are the space. You are the universe, completely. That you own the whole world. If you own the whole world, you have no sense of ownership anymore, because everything is yours. Person find that's a bit too much, if you own the whole world. He would like to have some fun in the game his ownership, to compare that he's richer than somebody else. Otherwise whole fun of being rich is meaningless, because you are everywhere. You own everything. At that moment that you begin to establish your territory, you begin to go beyond the universality of what you are. And you would like to fix yourself into things. And you begin to involve with bargaining and comparison. Just purely you might do that, if you own the whole world, you might give a part of your property to somebody else just in order to-- it's purely [UNCLEAR: being?] with it. That's exactly what happens at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: In other words you have to lose something in order to stop possessing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And that losing is in itself is paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1719.0,1863.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm thinking of something I wrote down last night, which looked very stupid to me this morning. Which was in order to get in-- get *out* of it, you have to delve into it. That sounds very funny.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: In order to get divorced, you have to get married.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Uh huh. [laughter] In order to get out of anything, you have to have gotten in. And we're always doing that. We're putting our probes out, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1863.0,1900.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Rinpoche, would you talk a bit about space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think what I would like to do is, you know, just get through this [laughter], to start with. And when we have next session we could begin on the meditation and space.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes, but I'm just thinking that first of all, you know, people in the Western world talk a great deal about space and the conquest of space in the space age, but basically don't pay any attention to space at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know. They freeze it.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm. Yeah, it's the-- again that they haven't got a complete understanding of mind-body quality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1900.0,1947.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You said something in your book about we arrive at the place where we meet a teacher. And I've lived a long time, and I've read this so many times, and I just wonder if everyone isn't a teacher? I haven't found one yet. I went about twenty-five years ago [INAUDIBLE] mountain with his feet on the desk and I said, \"What's it all about?\" He says, \"Look out the window.\" I've been with him time and time again and he never talks, just sits there. [Laughter] Being my teacher. Do we need teachers? But you say in your book the time will come when you [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But isn't everybody your teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes and no.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Damn it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=1947.0,2011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: You were speaking-- in something, to me, it's kind of erring to Buddhism because it's-- I-- the reason I couldn't follow Hinduism is this idea of \"Leela\" or \"Lila\", or the the play of a creator. And this seem to be that you're developing this idea in Buddhism, that there is this primordial ground and it's them that decides to play games with itself, because it's bored with itself, it sounds like to me. That there's this *play*. And this sounds more Hindu to me than Buddhism. But-- and-- it kind of disturbs me a bit because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I can't stand it, this facet in Hinduism. That's my, you know, and of course I know this is philosophical discussion, of the dharmakaya and the sambhogakaya, again, but I don't find as much in Buddhism. Is there-- is this really a Buddhist thought, this idea of play, or the game of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's particularly tantric way of viewing it. And, you see the whole point is that play and the game couldn't just happen like that. It must have some origin of playing game, its origination. Which is to say that you haven't created the world at all. World was there already, right at the beginning. Whenever there is self-consciousness begin to develop, in the faintest or very subtle way, how subtle is may be, how faint is may be, that developed already.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, it's quite a different from the point of view of Hindu teaching, or for that matter of Christianity for instance. The world was-- the world was not created by purely play, purely energy alone; world existed before that. I mean, dharmakaya was there already. In fact dharmakaya *wasn't* there. Dharmakaya was purely relative concept. And before that what's called \"dharmadhatu\", the \"dharma space\", \"space of dharma\"; \"all-encompassing space\" was there. And when person begin to aware of that space is there as such, then that in itself create chaos. Which is nothing to do with the play or Lalitha or game or dance. And dance is much later process than that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: If I was to step out of playing a game, would I also be egoless then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you still might be aware of the absence of the game. [Laughter] You're not out completely yet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: How do you relate that Lila to now? I mean the way you described it, it was like at the of beginning of some creation. But in terms of now, it's like Lila, could you talk about Lila in terms of now, in terms of how we live--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, all these process of development ego is nothing to do with “once upon a time.” It's happens every moment, every situation. There is ignorance all the time happening. Trying to reassert its place happening all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: This--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't play a game, or you can't dance, unless you feel the space, unless you heard the music. And the music plays and you feel the space, the ground of the dance, where you dance, upon. Where the dance takes place, which is now -- yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But is it like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean it couldn't be past, could it? Or the future.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yes, I see that part. But someone once said something to me which I always remember, it's like, life attains a certain quality, which comes with appreciation of the game aspect of life, constant appreciation of the game aspect of life. And it's like I always thought of that as like, if you step back a little bit you can see a kind of a play or a dance in everything, all the time. Is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --that the kind of thing that refers to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What would you say Alan?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Well I agree with that, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: I don't see anything wrong with playing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The playing could be a deliberate kind of play, like if I-- as opposed to like a frozen business relationship where it's kind of things-- but even then, in the frozen business relationship, if the business man backs up, he can see it all as a game, a chess game that he's working up. But on the other hand, it can be a deliberate kind of play where there's actually the feeling of almost like gaiety but not quite so defined a step.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes, if the business man forgets it's a game, he gets serious and brutal.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But isn't that still a game?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Isn't that still a game?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: That being a bad sport.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Bad sport game.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think something to do with that, this game is quite different from the spontaneous game of ego, which is almost you could say meditative game. A game of \"higher consciousness,\" quote quote. [laughs; Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2011.0,2408.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Back to the primordial, primeval ground or space. Essentially that exists in a timeless situation, and we start playing when we get into a sequential dance. And the ego can't exist, unless we accept a sequential system of time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's very abstract way of looking at. Extremely abstract, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, I mean in the sense that there's differentiation between here and there. There's some place we're coming from and some place we're going *to*.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, such game, dance, is already there, is active. In other word, the concept of center, and eccentric, doesn't apply anymore. Every situation is center, everywhere. Which is to say that there is no need to report back to central headquarters, so to speak, anymore, in that realm. Like space is-- permeation of space is everywhere. Wherever there is a corner of space there is center, and there is its fringe as well. So in somehow the notion of a concept and a game doesn't apply, as *we* will view it. And it's just there.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut the point is, you see, it's not so much a question of understanding that basic abstract principle, purely by theoretical understanding alone. But one have to learn to *feel* that basic primordial ground, could exist at present moment. Which we could get into next discussion of practice of meditation, and your experience of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Do you think that every time you turn, anywhere you turn, the ego is playing a game? Regardless of what you do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As long as you aware of the things, what you doing.[Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: All the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2408.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is it really true that, you know, first there is the primordial ground, and sort of everything else comes out of that later? Because it seems like, you know, this concept of primordial ground really only exists relative to the concept of something else. And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --it sort of exists [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. Well said, yeah. That's why, it wasn't-- as I said, it isn't question of that I'm telling a story or tale. \"Once upon a time, something something happened. That's why we are here.\" It's not a folk tale anymore. [Laughs] It's what's happening this very spot, this very moment. The whole process of five skandhas takes place simultaneously, very efficiently all the time. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: It all starts now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2567.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can you tell us how to overcome all these troubles?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can you tell us how to overcome pride, passion, anger, jealousy, all of these?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we discuss next time, when we talk about [laughter] [INAUDIBLE]. You see the thing is not so much of how to overcome is particularly important, but how things as they are, if you see what we are doing. Before you drive, you must know the mechanism of your motor car. Or before we walk on the step-- stepping out of in the ground, we must know whether ground is solid or boggy, whatever is may be. We must know the basic feeling of the whole thing, before we involve with anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2619.0,2673.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I think my own greatest problem in trying to transcend the ego is that I sort of fascinate myself -- or at least, I'm always trying to fascinate myself. And I find it-- and I-- now I find myself thinking that it's so interesting to be me, but it's kind of painful too. [Laughs] Do you know what I mean? What can I do about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that it's not so much of getting the right answers for it, but seeing the situation as it is, which is not matter of a consequence, not serious thing at all. So I would say well then to develop sense of humor. As long as you don't take things too seriously, then you're-- that means you're allowing space, gap. And you'll be able to see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2673.0,2769.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah, if we, say are meditating and we, you know, become aware of being in the space, is it possible, like if somebody is still intellectually talking in the room, that also be understanding things intellectually while experiencing things fuller?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, it's possible. That's the whole point of using the intellect, not as throwing everything out, and everything's should be organic thing. [Laughs] I mean there's room for intelligent, or intellect, as well as room for intuitive feelings. And the only problem arises when you begin to reject anything to do with a personal experience, doesn't coincide with the intellectual understanding. In other word the intellectual process comes towards you as you approach to it, and then it bounces back, when you begin to not associate with anything to do with the personal experiences. And then, in other word intellectual speculation becomes power of its own, rather than part of your make-up. It's possible to work two ways, both ways; in fact, it necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean the first process onto the path is learn how to listen, how to receive and how to listen. Which is a complete application of one's intellect, in its fullest sense. Not putting desire what you would like to hear, or what you don't want to hear. But just to establish yourself in the fullest sense of receiver. Whatever you receive, you're going to receive it. And the next process is, automatically once you receive what you heard properly, that automatically going to click, something's going to click. Something's going to communicate within *you*, anyway. And then you go on from there.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean, that is why the whole idea of, in my training for instance in Tibet, the study of philosophy and practice of meditation is been presented simultaneously, side by side. The analogy of a bird with two wings; you can't fly if you don't have two wings being used. Which makes us to be stronger and more independent, that we are not anymore flying -- following the process by blind faith alone, but we are using some of our own intellect, *critical* intellect is being used to the situation as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2769.0,2964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I have a question, and I'm sure you've answered it -- I think you just answered it, but I'm not *sure* you've just answered it, and the question is still there. But over and over again, we're said-- or we're told, \"Still your mind and see things as they really are. See it as it is.\" And our perceptors are so narrow: we can't see x-rays, and we can't see ultraviolet, we can't see infrared, so it mustn't mean that. And seeing it like it is, all I can-- I don't know that I would *know* if I saw it as it is. [Laughter] Because we are, each one-- everything is filtered through our conditioning, and through our heredity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I'm trying to see things like they are, you know, this is a-- and getting more frustrated by the moment. [Laughter] And so I still my mind, and the only thing I can say is, you know, out of the whole thing is one thing follows another. But I'm not sure how I-- the only answer *to it* to me would be that there must be -- and this is the only reason I can stay with *any* kind of religion, particularly Buddhism, seems quite good, is that there is another form of understanding or another way of looking at this sorry mess that we have, which I haven't discovered. But I'm not sure--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --why they keep telling me this, you know, how it is. And I'm walking around the stove like trying to see it like it is. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm. That's good one, yeah, sure. [Laughter] [laughs] Well...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You don't have to answer. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see the point is that seeing things as they are automatically means not looking things as they are -- looking *for* things as they are. So as long as you begin to look for things as they are, then looking process involves with fascination and criteria of something. So that's why the term \"seeing\" rather than \"looking\", is been used. \"Perceiving\" rather, if you like it put it that way. But, you see, the point is you don't have to register it, when you see things as they are, you don't have to register it. You don't have to put all discoveries or cash records or whatever you'd like to call it. [Laughs] You don't *have* to do that, particularly, at all. You just see things as are they -- perceive things as they are. *That's it*. That's the beginning and the end. The path is the goal and the goal is the path already. No questioning, no watching oneself. Whenever there is a watcher involved, watching yourself, seeing things as they are, that *is* looking. In other word, if you're completely involved with seeing things as they are, you don't have to watch yourself or tell yourself, commentate yourself at all. You're just there.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's why pain is important part of the teaching. \"Duhkha\", suffering, was the first thing which the whole teaching of Buddhism stem from. Duhkha, pain. Because pain is real. You can't just watch yourself feeling pain, but you just feel pain. It doesn't matter physical or psychological one. Whether you experience things really as they are on that very spot. There's no fooling about with that. [Laughs] I mean, it's very simple, the whole thing is very-- matter of simplifying, and not matter of making a thing out of it, big deal out of it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Why can't you witness yourself in pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you're really excruciating pain, can you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You become the pain. That's exactly the same as the practice of meditation should be; you *become* meditation, rather than meditating by deliberate action. That's distinction between wisdom and knowledge. Wisdom is complete involvement, knowledge is regarding situation as interesting expectation, interesting expecting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=2964.0,3261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is knowledge entirely a function of the intellect? Is knowledge then entirely a function of the intellect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems, yeah. Even the prajnaparamita, is *prajna* paramita --\r\n\r\n\r\n\"supreme understanding,\" but still understanding, isn't it? But said \"supreme.\" Once you have put word \"supreme\" that means something fishy about that. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=3261.0,3294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: You mentioned mind-body quality, I think you said, that we don't understand. And I don't [INAUDIBLE]. It's like, it seems like the way I always experience what I see when you say that is like searching around or experimenting in meditation of things, for a certain relationship, or something, or a feeling of mind-body where it works together in some way. And then there's other ways we can stretch it apart and feeling the dualities of watching one. But this mind-body quality that you mentioned seems to be more cohesive or something, than that? What-- and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's... you see things purely from point of view of your version of things as they are. I mean, everybody in this audience would have a different way of seeing this view, and the boats and everything here. They see it in their own version. And we could fight for it, that my version is more realistic and more genuine than somebody else's. It's like same as the story of seven blind men and elephant. You see the whole question is, we don't see things properly. Things bounce back on us all the time. We see the kind of artifact of things. Do you see what I mean? Rather than really things as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: They have like a rebound.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, rebounds all the time. That's why Buddha said that we are all insane, neurotic. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Not with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite; not with it. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So does that mean that that mind-body quality is like, in some way sick, if we don't see? And the mind-body quality is in tune, if we see as it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If we see as it is, then we seeing as it is. So you don't have to struggle with it, necessarily at all. You are just there.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: The people in extreme pain struggle with pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be secondary reaction. First identification of pain completely, and then having realized they're struggling with the pain, they look for another cure for it. It's kind of secondary development. It's like the difference between ignorance and feeling and other things, develops in five skandhas.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: But when you say-- I still-- when you say mind-body, it seems to suggest two things. Mind, body. But with the sense that they're moving together into one. And somehow they're apart.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have to speak the language of samsara anyway. We have to speak the dualistic language. That's in itself becomes hang-up. I know that. [Speaker laughs] [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So like the battle of the ego, like that phrase \"the battle of the ego\"--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I know what you mean. Yeah. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It doesn't necessarily imply that you want to give up the ego. I mean although it does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nor for that matter that you want to fight for it, either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It doesn't imply anything, right? It just implies--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it means nothing. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=3294.0,3525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: BREAK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Aside] What's the time? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: It's just after two-thirty. Do you want to take a break?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, perhaps we should take a break.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: All right, let's take a break. And there will be refreshments passed around, we've got coffee and things. Then we'll assemble again.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] What are we going to do now?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] What are we going to do? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Aren't we going to talk about meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=3525.0,3652.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Perhaps we could follow up, and have further questions if you-- if anybody would like to go over with what we discussed already in last session. And then we could go into the discussion on meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: The question was asked, \"Is everything our teacher?\" You know, do we need to have a specific teacher or is not everything our teacher, and you said, \"Yes and no.\" Could you elaborate? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that there are two types of attitude. One is the attitude of wanting to enrich ourselves, in terms of ego. And in this case the person wouldn't go and study under particular teacher at all. You might read some books. And you might attend some courses or discussions, talks. But fundamentally a person is extremely ambitious person. Extremely ambitious because that person would like to become self-made spiritual higher being. And it seems that the problem lies there is that the person is never made, this case, person has never made any particular communication or contact with anyone. And the person has never sort of sacrificed anything of his ego, desires, and his proud collections, possessions, which he values very much, and he keeps very close guard of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the danger is that the person could become extremely self-centered, and proud of himself, because he had managed to achieve purely by himself without giving anything, without getting through any inspiration from any traditions of any kind. And quite likelihood the danger is that there will be either tremendous depression or of dissatisfaction in him. That since he has already set his place, as a man of knowledge, it seems too late, certain stage, for him to become student of somebody else, or study or bow down, and learn from particular teaching. And only way to do is just maintain that his dignity, and sort of keep going. Trying to collect as much as possible, that he-- same as he's been doing, already.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the next situation of searching for a spiritual teacher, is not so much regarding teacher as superior or extremely different from you, in terms of that you are stupid and uninformed person, and somebody who knows better than you do. But the attitude towards teacher seems to be-- should develop through the principle of \"kalyanamitra\", as it says in Sanskrit, which means \"spiritual friend\", in terms of friendship. That you are not hesitating to give or open yourself to this particular person, because you have tremendous trust and understanding of that person who understands you. Will be able to communicate with you, so you are not particularly trying to impress that person, but purely kind of friendship situation. And at the same time of course, communication process is very important, and person would have to learn to how to surrender of his pride, and become generous in terms of communicating; presenting the raw and rugged quality of that person to the guru, without any hesitation at all. It's like going to a doctor, physician. That if you didn't present your basic report of your health and what's wrong with you, then automatic result is that it is not-- it is going to suffer *you*, rather than that doctor or physician is going to be impressed by you because you are a healthy person. And somehow there's no reason for going to a physician at all at the beginning, if you kept that kind of dignity and barrier between physician and yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhich means a transmission must take place. Abhisheka or transmission in this case, or initiation, what you like to call it, is a meeting of the two minds. With other person, student is also open, willing to communicate, nothing is hiding. And at the same time, the teacher, master, is also communicate, and nothing particularly hiding in him or that he wanted to just reduce him into a replica of himself, in terms of converting into somebody else and change them completely, disregarding their basic potential. So such kind of open communication and openness takes place, and that is the satori experience or sudden enlightenment experience could take place, in such a meeting point of meeting of the two minds. Because both parties are not pretending to be anything at all, but just being what they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd furthermore process that student might find study under this particular spiritual friend, might find communication is so thorough and open. Certain stage it is a bit painful and embarrassing, or discomforting that you don't want to completely open everything to this person, who knows everything of you. And there will be certain holding back. And that particular point, the spiritual friend tend to, traditionally, if you study the writings or life stories of great teachers, the student would study under this particular friend, and the friend would act as absolutely mirror-like quality. He does not particularly try to teach or enrich you in the sense of connection, but purely trying to nurse you up and bring you up into a healthy state of psychology. And only way to do is, that is, this kind of reflection of yourself is becoming spiritual friend. Which a lot of people tend to find at this level discomforting or difficult to get through-- go through this whole process. But it seems necessary. The teacher act as irritatingly reflection of yourself, a mirror-like quality. Whatever you do, whatever you act, bounces back on you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then, further on there would be, again, that person learn how to work with *that* process, and begin to accept the whole process. And then there's a tendency of becoming extremely lazy. That you don't have to do any work. You can only tell by the reaction of the teacher; it's like using teacher as a speedometer. In this case, person becomes extremely lazy, if he does everything for you, and he works for you, and he tells everything what you have to do. And such situation that becomes, traditionally that teacher either throws you out and encourage you to lead your own life, independent of teacher, depending on such person is not quite healthy situation in this case, because you have to learned how to become grown-up, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd then, next moment, of student begin to accept all those proposals so to speak, and then the teaching that you have learned up to this point becomes very rich, and constantly goes on all the time throughout everyday life situation. That whenever that you face critical situations, the appropriate moment that you had a teacher, appropriate word that you heard from teacher begin to comes back to your mind. And in other words situation acts as reminder of the teacher. Somehow this case, that you are not quite absorbed into the inner teacher as such, but the reflection of the teacher is been seen in every situations. Not as absolute hundred percent inner guru relationship, but such open kind of casual way of seeing situations rely on this part on learning process plays. And as person become more and more involve in that process, and become familiar with and confident with that, then the inner guru begin to spring out. Which is not only that you are dependent on the technical aspect, or physical existence of memory of the teacher as such, but whole style of thinking, whole style of dealing with situation, *is* teaching process there, which is higher quality of inner guru-- discovery of inner guru. And that takes a long way until attainment of awakened state of mind, where that one's creative process in life also becomes dharma, energy principle. And one begin to see the absolute quality of non-duality. And, in fact one realizes that moment that striving on the path is unnecessary and irrelevant. Where a teacher and student notion is completely irrelevant and begin to transcend everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, it's on the whole, same as also dealing with life. But at the same time that you have to have someone to surrender yourself to external person. Not only to external person, I mean can surrender yourself to your pet dog, or your pet turtle, or anyone, of course you can do that if you are in a position to do it, but somehow this spiritual friend is not just purely another \"thing\" in your life. But this spiritual friend is very powerful person. He or she had gone through the whole process of following certain examples and certain feelings of the whole lineage, that the living quality has been passed down. It's like a spiritual friend, or guru in this particular one is... it's like, just bread that you've taken out of oven; it's hot and fresh, because it contains he who had achieved his embodiment of the whole lineage, what particular tradition it may be. And such kind of living quality of the teaching is a source of inspiration, rather than purely relating yourself with animate or inanimate object as purely teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the question is discovering such living person, who sees teaching as living thing rather than purely trying to pass on to all the tale, stories, or ceremonies, customs, but someone who regard the teaching as really living, and he lived his life through it, and he felt it as well. It seems to be important. That's why there is no mystery, no magic in the process of lineage as teaching, as whole, but at the same time there *is* some kind of power, energy, in the process of teaching lineage at the same time. Which is very refreshing and very living.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat doesn't mean to say that a person has to particularly associate himself with his church or particular sect, organization, as being member of such group, necessarily. Somehow membership doesn't play important part in this case. It's the... inheritance plays more important part. That such living quality may be passed down, onto one generation to next generation, and obviously you are confused person, another sentient being, is obviously fertile ground. Because you provide tremendous possibilities of sowing such seed, such rich manure, heaps of manure, and everything that we have, you see is very creative, very beautiful thing to come across, in order to sow a seed.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think the relationship of-- to a teacher in terms of blind faith, and terms of intelligent relationship, also plays very important part in this case as well. That you're not accepting this teacher because this teacher is being a famous, this teacher is being appeared in television, or he published hundreds of books, or he spoke in a millions of audience, and he is successful, as a man of the world. Some of that is the criteria, I mean, needless to say, but we should know that by now. [Laughs] But the-- if there's a criteria at all, the basic criteria is the communication, the sympathy, compassion, that contains with this teacher; whether this teacher is fully sympathetic to you in the fundamental sense. This teacher doesn't have to be ingratiating to you necessarily. Or superficially kind and polite, and have to have good manners, and so on, necessarily. But is there some kind of softness, fundamental softness, fundamental openness in this teacher? And if there is, and if you are able to communicate with that, then one is not following teaching blind-- blind faith alone, but one is really working with a teacher properly.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems question of a teacher and surrendering to a teacher is a very confused one at the moment here in the West, particularly. And the idea is not known, and haven't developed fully. In fact one could say that no one had able to really relate this guru-teacher properly as spiritual friend. That seems to be the problem of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=3652.0,4913.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any more questions aboutbreathing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Before this succession of transmissions, how was the first teacher initiated?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Before the succession of transmissions, how was the first teacher initiated? Who was Buddha's guru?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well that's exactly the saying the same thing as the ego question. Who confused and how got confused?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If there's confusion already, there must be someone who will be able to *see* this confusion as confusion. Which means, somebody's already awake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=4913.0,5012.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Could you elaborate a bit more on your last statement about the guru-disciple relationship as not being able to be friends, or something like that?\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's no living quality goes through, process of learning, which everybody contains, that we all know about it. In living tradition is because spiritual friend is friend rather than professor, lecturer, teacher. It's equal, equal level. You might ask a question that, \"How is this so then, if this is the case, then traditionally that people prostrate to teachers? And they bow down and place themselves lower than teacher's seat. Take off your shoes and so on.\" Well that's also saying same thing. That-- that's not so much of-- paying respect is not so much a hierarchical notion. But it's question of that you are willing to go through unmasking process; whether you remove your turban, or whether you remove your shoes. Will you willing to relate yourself with the same ground where teacher is on, by prostrating. It's a gesture of communication. In other word, that both of you are the same level but you are willing to unmask, going to-- we are willing to communicate, you are willing to go through any cost, out of any cost, that you're willing to do it. That's kind of friendship. Same as now shaking hands for instance. [Laughs] It's necessary to develop this notion of friendship, rather than superior. That's one of the fundamental principle, particularly in the mahayana tradition. The relationship of teacher, should be friends.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Then in the Western world, would it be better to shake hands than to bow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if it could be a revolutionary thing, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's profitable enough.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: If it could be revolutionary? I didn't hear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: To shake hands?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: That's very common.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: That's very common.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Everybody bows to everybody else in Japan.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So, [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=5012.0,5210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Could you tell us more about bringing the inner teacher, or the inner guru to life? Our inner spiritual friend? You made a statement about the inner teacher coming to life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't have just inner teacher presented to you, simply. I mean we *could*, intellectually we could think in those terms. But the trouble is because we think purely intellectual way that's why it is not real enough, somehow. So the inner guru, inner teacher must present itself through the outer guru. One *must* go through a physical relationship of person. Which is very important, very necessary. If the person had gone through this physical surrendering process to the external guru, spiritual friend, as friend, that communication automatically means that every moment when you're being with that person, whatever person does, whatever he says, is communicated to you. In other word, being with them is process of learning, very *rich* process of learning, all the time is taking place. Which means that if you spend, for instance, four years with such teacher, five years, that's four years constant communication, almost twenty-four hours, working process all the time. And you can't fail to miss any points at all by then. You have become very enriched by learning process; every incident way to relate to the teaching comes, and so much information and so much understanding is developed within oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut then that becomes very comfortable situation. That you would like to be fed all the time, of course. Because for the very fact that we don't want to really work on ourselves. We know ourselves more than anybody else does and therefore, we would like to introduce third party in ourselves -- \"me\" and \"my\" relationship. And when such notion comes, then it is probably time to leave, or else the teacher will throw you out. And then one begin to, sort of pick up the situations and the memories as part of the learning process. Is what's you've been learned, what you've been studied, and information you've receive, examples of stories and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there is something more than that, then. Fundamentally then even memory doesn't play important part, because whole process is become just you and the world, rather than you and memory of its interpretation of the world, but it becomes a direct and a simple process. At that moment where there's no desire to proceed on the path either, because world is what is. That is teacher, that is teaching, and you are in it, you are on this path already, which is goal, as well as path. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Can-- how far can one substitute for that kind of relationship, by being totally honest with oneself? By only relating to one's direct experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it would be very difficult, extremely difficult. I wouldn't say that this particular style of relationship of teacher and student is standard style. Or that no standard style [INAUDIBLE], and nobody had to follow their own individual situations, all the time. But it's a very hard one, very difficult one. The seduction of life is overwhelming. That you would like to see something and you actually do see it that way. That's happens all the time, such seduction. And no matter how intelligent or how solid a person is, there will be always-- more the person is sophisticated therefore more sophisticated the seduction plays to you all the time, that level. And it happens all the time. So person would really have to be super, super awake. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Like Prince Siddhartha?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is possible, of course. But somehow even then honesty doesn't really play important part. Honestly itself becomes a game, you see. [Laughter; Laughs] Becomes a game of honesty. [Laughter; laughs] [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=5210.0,5579.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: In the process of projection, we can experience perhaps the inner teacher. When we are in love with a person that we very much admire, what we are apt to do is to project then our inner teacher, our inner image that we carry of this teacher. And I think the real vehicle is our love. And even though the other person may not correspond at all to our image, still for the time being, I see in him or in her, the walking -- *my* walking inner teacher. I mean this person can't do any wrong and everything; the way they walk, the way they sit, everything is perfect. Of course, this is an illusion, but as a *vehicle* I think I externalize my inner teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't follow the question. Can you tell me what was the question, Alan?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: It's a question of an outer-- an outward person being a suitable screen or vehicle, for receiving the projection of a kind of archetypal inner teacher within yourself. I think that's what the questioner has in mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: You see, the previous question that was being asked was \"could you say a word about the inner teacher?\" And it occurred to me, that this inner teacher, the way modern people in the West experience it rather frequently, is by projection. Which is this psychological term, that something that actually exists in my psyche, I'm externalizing and I'm giving these inner qualities to that screen, as Alan Watts called it, to that-- so this other person out there becomes my teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut actually, what I see in him or in her, is really inside myself. And I-- in the same way I make these projections in a *positive* way I make them also in a negative way; both are equally untrue probably. [Laughs] Both are equally only existing within myself. I mean I can also say this other person is a devil, he's a son of a bitch, and so forth, and actually this devil resides in myself. And just as I can say, \"She is an angel and she is the ideal woman or he is the wisest man I have ever met and so forth.\" But it all pertains to me, and that's what I meant.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, you see, that's true in a sense that the quality of hallucinatory perception is extremely powerful. That we see our version of the world, we project a lot of positive and negative attitudes to world outside. And we wanted to see that way. And because of that we do see it that way. And that happens all the time. So that's why exactly, in order to bring ourselves to down to earth, sort of a peasant quality; man and his relationship to soil, and when-- and his relationship to the growing vegetables, and feeding ourselves. From practical point of view, is the always the nature of the path, in generally. Like meditation is also trying to bring things as they are into realistic situation of life. As well as dealing with-- working with the teacher is also another example, sort of, grounding to the earth quality, is extremely important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in other word the-- no matter that how simple-minded a person would regard himself is, but at the same time, the inquisitive and shifty quality in a person's mind is extremely sophisticated, and has all sorts of elaborate tactics and manipulation that goes on *all* the time; whether person is particularly regarded as intellectual one or simple sort of type of person, but all the time same kind of game goes in any case. So therefore physical situation of relating oneself with external teacher and external person, I think plays tremendous important part. So bringing the earthly quality in everything, which is lacking. As we develop more and more into the psychological materialistic world, there's more imaginations and more hallucinations plays important part. And therefore the earth-grounding process is very important, extremely important.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Excuse me, what was that word, earth what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Earth-grounding.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Earth-grounding.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Could we go on now to hear about what you have to say about the next meditation on [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Yes. I think there's relevance.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=5579.0,6057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: TALK PART TWO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope everybody had to understood about the basic ground that meditation be cultivated, the practice of meditation be cultivated. When we talk about meditation in general, it is not a matter of purely sit and trying to contemplate on things. Or else it isn't a way of concentrating ourselves at one particular theme, in a gymnastic fashion. You see that whole thing's quite obvious, that if you're trying to change the state of consciousness or mind, whatever you like to call it, if you try to change it, if you trying to mold it into different shapes, it is impossible. We feel the texture of mind, texture of emotions, consciousness. We *do* feel them, but at the same time, that isn't the way to work with. Somehow we can't just purely change our basic character into different shapes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6057.0,6179.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore the fundamentally the practice of meditation *isn't* reforming yourself, or trying to better yourself, in a moralistic sense at all. And if that is the practice of meditation, then we have to use same technique is that ego's version of working with ourselves. We have to have particular criteria, of how-- what particular degree that your mind should become peaceful, and out of what particular degree your mind should be intelligent, so that you could get-- continue with life as well. After all you don't want to become all that extremely peaceful. Otherwise you wouldn't know how to feed yourself or how to deal with life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6179.0,6242.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if there's such notion of criterias involved, there all these problems involved; that you want to become good meditator, but at the same time you don't want to do too far, you don't want to go too far. Something's wrong there. Something's wrong because we set criteria, of achieving something continuously. As soon as there's a notion of trying to achieve something, then automatic process is that, you're not going to achieve it at all. It is trying to recreate the past or undo the past, which is impossible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6242.0,6300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore practice of meditation is just a way of working with what you are and what you have. That is precisely why the understanding of basic principle of ego plays extremely important part in this. And at the same time, we cannot just generalize whole process of ego, in terms of seeing everything's ignorance and bad, and trying to shut off completely. Because that in itself, is establish criteria. So what we can only do is trying to find stepping stone of unlearning process, undoing the ego, unlearning, rather than trying to put new ideas, new thoughts on it-- on to us, on our understanding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6300.0,6356.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, the whole question of practice of meditation is not a question of enriching yourself, in the literal sense, it's process of renunciation. So the first thing that comes in our mind is that, if you decide to sit down and meditate, the first problem that comes to our mind is the discursive thoughts, of all sorts of type begin to bother us. So that's the-- that's first confrontation of criteria and concept. Because you have a fixed idea of meditation is what *should* be, therefore, all these irritations begin to arise, because you invoke them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6356.0,6419.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore one cannot just directly try to calm yourself or pacify yourself, but one have to use some technique. Technique which is extremely simple and direct and literal, in the ordinary sense. And the attitude towards the practice of meditation is not being something ritualistic, or something exotic and something beyond this world. The attitude to meditation should be extremely simple one, just part of everyday life process. As it is been said, that food, sleep, taking care of your body, and meditation are the four things that you need, for your psycho-physical body's health. So meditation's a part of everyday life process rather than anything beyond that. And one had to get-- one have to find some technique. But there again there are lots of different types of techniques being presented... and all these techniques are questionable. It is purely technique rather than actual attainment. It's crutches. It's purely just raft. That if you are presented with a very exotic technique, beautifully-carved, inlaid with jewels and all sorts of things, are crutches. If you’ve been presented such crutches, antique piece. The quite likely thing is that you will go on carrying these crutches, even after you don't need it. Because one's evaluation is improved so much on these crutches, rather than what really should be its function.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6419.0,6569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, according to the teaching of Buddha, that he started on this basic principle of meditation, which is both common to mahayana as well as hinayana Buddhism. It's the what's called \"anapanasati.\" That's what's called \"awareness of breathing,\" \"mindfulness of breathing.\" Which actually deals with these discursive thoughts, neurotic thoughts that goes on in our mind. Is the starting point. You remember we been talking about karma, and it's continual re-creation of chain reaction of karma, it goes on everyday life. The kleshas, five kleshas being the actual highlights of karmic process, and the thought process, neurotic thought process which goes on in everyday life, acts as sort of padding for this process. So we are dealing with first the padding. In other word we don't-- we are not trying to push whole wall, but we trying to remove brick by brick. So first thing is dealing with these neurotic thoughts, irregular thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6569.0,6649.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And by using such as like breathing, plays important part, in the first step of unlearning, undoing of ego's fortification. And it's not so much of actually concentrating on the breathing, or meditating on the breathing in the ordinary sense. But it's identifying with the breathing. That's why it's called \"right\" mindfulness, not just any old mindfulness [laughter], but it's *right* mindfulness, precise mindfulness. You can't be just precisely mindful if you are pushing too hard. You can only be mindful, completely, thoroughly *being* in the mindful state, by complete absorption, complete identification with the breathing. So breathing is you and you are the breathing. There's no separation, or for that matter walking practice of meditation. The movement of your foot is you and you are the movement. You see in such precision of movement -- for instance in walking meditation -- you see lifting, swinging, touching the ground, pressing your foot. And you see all this movement in process is very simple and precise. And so precise there's no other rooms for hallucinating or confusing all the thoughts coming. So seeing that question is not knowing how to suppress your mind, but knowing how to go along with it, by not interfering with them. Complete identification with breathing, becoming completely one with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6649.0,6770.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that's what is called hinayana approach, the narrow path. Narrow path, in other word there is no other way of side track at all, just simply going on with what you have, what you’re doing. No side tracks, no other way, but that's the only way. Which helps to get through this subconscious gossip so to speak, that goes on all the time. If you're trying to suppress your thoughts, you're also feeding it by suppressing. You're-- in other word, you are evaluating it. Whereas if you are involved into it, it is the same thing, you're evaluating it. So any kind of evaluation, value judgment comes in practice of meditation, then it becomes hang-up. So that's the right mindfulness, complete mindfulness, being with what you are. Such a simple technique is necessary, the first stepping-stone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6770.0,6857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the next process we have to deal with is those dramatic emotions, five kleshas, that had developed. Supposing if you able to deal with discursive thoughts and everything. Which doesn't mean to say that you become completely thoughtless, without thoughts, but you've begin to see the transparent quality of thoughts rather than what we used to see in terms of heavy and solid, overwhelming. In other word way of losing conceptualizing to thought process rather than purely attaining subdued state of mind necessarily. So when we talk of peace from the Buddhist point of view, we are not talking in terms of subdued peace, but we are talking terms of peace, absence of confusion, absence of conflict. If there's no conflict, then whole thing is simple and quiet and peaceful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6857.0,6923.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact the energy that goes around that experience of peace, peaceful state in itself act as a kind of landscape. Like if we are going to paint picture of space or sky. You can't just paint a picture of sky; only way to express the feeling of spacious of sky is either we put bird flying, or you could put horizon or mountains at the edge of the picture, which expresses whole spacial feeling of sky as a whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6923.0,6959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's absence of confusion rather than completely blank. Which brings the five types of emotions, dealing with that. Somehow the sitting meditation is equally important as well as awareness practice and general process of meditation. In everyday life, meditation in action is important as well. Particularly with dealing with the emotions. Because the emotions always operate on the active part of life. So it's also vipashyana, what is called \"practice of insight\", of \"awareness,\" rather than mindfulness. Mindfulness which means this case, is being careful, excluding other things; and awareness this case is openness. Experiencing the whole environment around that situation, is awareness. And therefore vipashyana practice is equally important. Which is also developed in Burmese method of meditating practice in hinayana, Theravadin tradition, as well as same-- precisely same kind of practice of meditation is developed also in the Tibetan tradition of Gampopa. I'm sure lot of you have heard or read about Gampopa's writing on The Jewel Ornament of Liberation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=6959.0,7099.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such sort of fundamental simplifying process of meditation is common to all teachings of Buddhism. That when we talk of vipashyana, insight, awareness practice, there again is no question of purely trying to be aware of certain instant in the life, as though we were trying to pick up whole highlight of situations. But it's also seeing the whole environment around the whole situation of life. Experiencing the whole space around the whole situation, which is extremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7099.0,7171.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow the sitting meditation of tremendous discipline, also reflects to the panoramic awareness of everyday life, in vipashyana experience. Automatically this provides perspective kind of space, in everyday life. And possibly be able to see that his state of mind functions aggressive, or passionate, or proud or whatever is may be -- functions within those space, takes place within that space, that's happening. And that's space purely operate nothing to do with analyzing your parent relations, or your relative, your psychological history or case history, as psychologists will talk about. But the neurotic tendency of mind only happens in the present moment. Unbalancing quality happens in the present moment. And if you see the space where these actions taking place as things as they are, then one begin to realize that they are not as terrible as that we expected, or painful as we expected. There's something friendly quality about these emotions [laughs]. Nothing intruding in other word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7171.0,7278.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And perhaps we should stop our discussion there, and we could follow on to the next session. Could talk about compassion, and further meditation development of practice. But I would like to make whole thing quite clear: this first step of practicing meditation is really starting on the fundamental principle rather than any wishy-washy or half-hearted way. But something directly dealing with things as they are, is the working with absolute, so to speak. It seems to be the only way. That there has been so many teachings of Buddhist traditions of meditation, particularly of those of the Tibetan tradition of vajrayana principle; visualizations, mantras, and all sorts of ritualistic ceremonies and so on been presented. Which becomes extremely powerful, if a person is able to work along with *these* process, to start with. I mean, tantric teaching is like learn how to dance, and before we learn how to do it, we also have to learn how to walk in the beginning as well. Otherwise it's the same analogy of a fox jumping after a lion, breaks his neck. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussion now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7278.0,7396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Assuming that you are a fox going to jump after lion and obviously you will break your neck, where do you start? With a teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, by practicing meditation right now. [Laughs] Next hour is when you're going to start it. [Laughs] I mean, you don't have to plan: \"When I retire from my job, how I am going to buy a cottage, and in what area. And *then* I'm going to meditate.\" [Laughter] Well you have to do it right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7396.0,7435.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Do you remember what that last thing that you'd finished up about intruding--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: --was? I'm-- I missed part of that somehow. About meditation being not wishy-washy or half-hearted, and then you said something about being touched with absolute, or working with-- and then something about, we're simply not intruding or something intruding or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it probably was the-- the problems is that of emotions are-- reactions to emotions are regarded as something friendly rather than destructive one, or intruding into your territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: [INAUDIBLE] with emotions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, friendly attitude.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rather than trying to fight them off or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7435.0,7484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Does one try to become fully aware of them and go with them, the anger or jealousy for instance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see this is quite involved subject in fact. Had to be quite clear on it. You see, fundamentally that emotions consist of energy, like water, and confusion like paint, which mix together and becomes colorful things. And confusion, when I say confusion it’s dualistic one; conflict between me and *that*. Either that things happening too rapidly, too close to heart so to speak, and I have to, I had to exorcise them, I had to defend my territory, which is aggression. Or else that hungry enough, thinks to survive they have to collect more. Grasping as in passion, or all the rest of it, I mean works that way. These are the paint. And if-- I mean, if there is such dualistic thing, as it is, you can't function. Only it could function by putting that paint into this water, is emotion-- I mean, is the energy. I mean, which goes on all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the fundamental way of working with such emotion is not to discard the whole thing. The analogy of being used of supposedly tortoise drinking milk and water together. That's traditional analogy. The tortoise is supposedly able to separate water from milk, and just take milk, and leave water as it is. So, question is that purely dealing with this dualistic, the paint quality, of emotions, is conflict. And not interfere with the energy. Because if you trying to interfere with the energy, then automatically you're going to thrown back, because you are working with your-- against your own force, your own energy, which is a dangerous game. So therefore no question of particularly trying to suppress -- for instance, take example anger -- and not so much of putting into practice of by murdering someone. But go along with it, without hesitation. Trying to not to go through with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nYou see, putting into practice of anger is another way of escape. Murdering somebody is not facing one's realistic quality of anger as it is, but trying to physicalize in situation, which is a frivolous action. You are not seeing things as they are properly. And at the same time if you trying to suppress it, then at the same time you'll be shy of it, and you don't want to look into it. Which makes more dangerous because there's a possibility of exploding, sooner or later. So the only way to do is go with it, go along with its basic quality, of emotion, of the energy, rather than the conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7484.0,7727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: What does that mean “go with it”?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Becoming part of the energy itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it-- I think it worth discussing more, you know. I may not be particularly clear, but we could work together.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: People generally feel that if they go along with the anger, it will drive them to do something stupid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: You see?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seems to be another way of escape.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't really face such energy, and you have to do something with it. Which is-- which usually leads to such frivolous and unskillful things. And fundamental sense of going along with it, is just trying to go beyond that hesitation, of, \"Am I going insane or seeing that very thin barrier.\" And to go beyond that as well. [Laughs] That frivolousness, the madness quality, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7727.0,7808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: What do you do with kind of the opposite, when it's the other way? When the-- when it's like the anger and you just get carried away by the emotional quality of it, and it's overwhelming, and you don't have time, or you can't create any space or, you know, you're not aware of it? It's just suddenly you're swept along by something and, you know and then you find, you know, like the confusion and the mess that you created by this frivolous actions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's the point of what I've been trying to point out is, you don't try to achieve yourself complete perfection to start with. You don't try to throw the whole wall, but you try to work brick by brick. So the best way to work is just to deal with some basic irritation, comes along with work. And then gradually, work up to crescendo. [Laughs] So to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: You don't necessarily expect to be able to handle the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Completely, no, we wouldn't expect.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: [INAUDIBLE] before you do the small things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. We wouldn't expect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7808.0,7872.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Does dealing with it involve expressing it to another? And having it understood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, the basically notion is we never communicate with ourselves. It's a misunderstanding, in the fundamental sense. And we haven't been able to really work with that properly. So that before we communicate with others, we have to also communicate to ourselves. That seems to be the first point. It's really feeling emotions *as they are*, by you seeing things as they are, as we been talking earlier on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7872.0,7911.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Is that what Jung says that overall is we're talking about when they say you seal the retort and keep it in, and you don't let the vapors go, which would be sort of acting it out when you don't take off the burners, so it quits cooking but you keep it in this retort, and then it transforms?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well it seems quite close but there again, you have to watch quite closely, you know, very carefully, that you don't put any kind of evaluation, in terms of that you are doing good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Making progress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7911.0,7948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Well, I have found when I blow that if I just blow and *forget*, drop it. I don't analyze it anymore; used to, I'd sit up weeks worrying about those emotional experiences I had. Is that alright? Just forget it, I've had it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be a bit naive. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: It's easy--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, the point is that--\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: I have them less and less though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] --but these are the-- our inherited wealth. Very rich ones. And these are the opportunities of working on the path. Very rich ones, very *fertile* ones, in fact. One can't just dismiss them. Very valuable. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=7948.0,8003.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: You say go with the energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Energy is power. And, if you go with the energy, where does the energy go? Where does it take you? I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: --will you go with it or does it take you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quite. Well, you see that's the lot of the source of fear in the Western mind, seems come from that. There's often kind of \"happy medium\" suggestions. Often lot of people talk in terms of middle way is being happy medium technique, is \"Go, and-- but don't go too far.\" Which doesn't apply somehow. It's question of, if you really go properly, fully, completely, you are not putting any pressure on the process of journey. In other word you are not holding back anymore. So more you go, the more you have to control. And, automatically returns back to us. It's like somebody wouldn't know how to drive motor car, he could go two hundred miles an hour, but he knows what he's doing. He's going with the speed, and he could slow down in due course.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Well that slowing down is what I'm interested in. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it happens by itself. Rather than, you know, trying to put a brake.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Isn't the problem of control that we're accustomed to thinking of our mind as two parts: the controller and the controlled, the thinker and the thought, the feeler and the feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's the dualistic, sort of thing of misunderstanding I've been talking about. Not being able to really establish a proper kind of relationship with you and your projections. And there's constant self-observing, watching yourself, all the time. Not knowing who's watching who but at the same time, going on and on. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8003.0,8124.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: You talked about right mindfulness in relation to the breath--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: --or say in walking. How can that continue whilst going with or, you know, going with some of this emotion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that complimentary. Right mindfulness is non-dualistic. At least imitation of non-dualistic process of completely becoming the breathing, completely becoming one with walking. And same as with the energies; if there's energy, no conflict, no panic, \"how and what, what shall I do now?\" But just completely becoming with that -- one with that, automatically. Without questioning, who should come first or anything else. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8124.0,8190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: So meditation is -- at least at first -- is an imitated gesture? Would you say that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, we have to have a stepping stone. We should say that at the beginning, we are not really meditating, but we are thinking that we are meditating--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughter] --meditating, of course. But there's nothing wrong with that at all. It's a way of stepping on the path. There's analogy being used in the scriptures of a monkey trying to imitate arhats meditating in a cave. And the monkey sat on the tree and cross-legged and imitate arhat. And at the end monkey also attained mindfulness state, by doing this. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [Quietly] Quite a monkey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8190.0,8245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: When I think I'm meditating, my body becomes quiet, my mind becomes very quiet, and I become *very* dull and very boring--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Or, if-- unless I fall asleep, but [laughter], either I fall asleep or I'm terribly bored, and it doesn't seem to do anything one way or another.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Is there anything wrong with it? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: I feel as if I'm doing something wrong [laughs].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well you see it's question of, if you're trying to quiet yourself down, rather than going with the techniques. Whether you're using awareness breathing or walking, whatever's may be. Techniques are very vibrant thing; they're very energetic and living, they're awakening. It's a question of becoming one with the technique rather than trying to become one with the meditation in that sense. I mean, for the very reason why the breathing is being used is-- why this breathing is being used, is because breathing is not solid and still thing, but it's alternating process.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat is to say that one is not trying to suppress energies, or emotions, but going with that pattern. And breathing, for instance, is a very accurate thing, for the state of mind as well at the same time. Like if you-- emotionally if you are upset your breathing will be very rough, before you're meditating. Or if you are basically relaxed your breathing will be very shallow. So it's very accurate thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd somehow we're just becoming that, working with that. Rather than purely trying to meditate properly but just purely working with-- on the technique. That seem to be, you know, basic important one. And at same time not trying to slow down deliberately. Peace and relaxation is by product of meditation. As far as meditation goes, there is no aim and no object at all. It's act of doing absolutely nothing. By just be, and breathe. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8245.0,8413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Does what you put in the space after the mind is quieter or after you've been breathing or walking, does that depend on the discipline you're following? Or, I mean, what technique comes after breathing and walking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, walking and breathing are--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: --does that go on indefinitely?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Always comes simultaneously. Together.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Yeah. But I mean after, is that the technique of-- is that advanced technique? In other words are there other techniques after that? That's the elementary one you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: To begin.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --there doesn't seem to be advanced ones. [Laughter] The only thing what happens is the breathing drops, walking drops -- irrelevant. You don't need crutches anymore. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8413.0,8476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: How about the emotions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's a very powerful rich thing, yeah, sure. That takes you right up to buddhahood.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Don't worry about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't achieve-- you can't trod on the path without emotions. In the whole teachings of the ten different stages of bodhisattva path, in the mahayana, is largely based on the gradual process of emotions, and that your relationship to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8476.0,8530.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Now, the breathing and the walking, are they like the same thing, in a sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems, yeah, it's really in other word, trying to bring yourself down to earth, properly. Your relationship to the ground -- walking. And your relationship to body -- breathing. I mean the same as like tea ceremony for instance, is the seeing the simplicity of the pouring tea and the making tea, and drinking it. You could just make tea and drink it up, but somehow [laughs], it's not quite the same. There's no simplicity in it; it's more complication, it's more collection of our life, rather than seeing things as simple as just making tea and drink it, in the tea ceremony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8530.0,8591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER39: Would you advise me to try to meditate when I'm feeling emotional or feeling angry or something, or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. I don't see why not, particularly. You see meditation always provides some basic sanity and space. Whenever there's a conflict it's the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8591.0,8629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: There have been times in being aware of my breath, that my breath is simply stopped coming in and coming out. Is that becoming too conscious of your breathing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it sounds like it, as there's deliberate effort of trying to calm yourself down. Too much effort made to the relaxation aspect, or slow down oneself. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: If there are no advanced techniques, where do you place this complicated tantric business of visualization and formations and dissolving the formations and the 300,000 prostrations and that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uh, hundred thousand. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: I got that one incorrect. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very good question. I'm glad you asked that question. You see, there's no such thing as a \"technique\", quote quote, as such. But all these other further practices become relevant. So a person wouldn't regard as a \"practice\" as such. But these symbolisms, understanding of relationship of the living world quality of tantric notion, becomes relevant. Just automatically comes into you. So, by that moment it is not anymore technique, as such, but it's just another way of living, for instance.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Celebration?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8629.0,8742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: I'm very confused. When I saw you a year ago I told you that I was having a lot of trouble with meditation and that I would start shaking when I would sit in meditation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I remember, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: --and I would cry. And you said, \"Oh wonderful!\" [Laughs; laughter]. But I'm still doing that, and it's really not very wonderful. I mean... [Laughs] And now you just said it has a calming effect--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Has what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: *Calming* effect to meditate, and it's-- that's not how it is for me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see if you try to achieve certain particular things, criteria, that's not the point of meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Yeah I know, it's just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But... Well it seems that one have to, you know, work on.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: What did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One have to work on, continuously, the discipline. Maybe more intensive practice of meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Just watching your own mind. That what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Watching your own mind. Not quite.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Hhmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8742.0,8831.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: There's sometimes when it's so wonderful, and then that ego comes in and you're-- I'm all fouled up, not on what I *have* to do but what I have to do after I have had these experiences, not worry about them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Sometimes we have to make decisions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. You see, whenever ego comes in, or up, whatever like to call it. [laughs] Meditation has kind of a laxative act. Bringing out hidden things. [Laughter] And therefore it is good. And one have to work *with* it rather than trying to destroy it or suppress it.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: It's bringing it forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Not be ashamed of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8831.0,8921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Would you say that when-- at a time when I don't feel like meditating is a-- is probably a pretty good time to meditate, necessarily?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I should think definitely so yes, because-- [laughter] I mean, the kind of-- there is occasional feeling towards-- attitude towards sort of seduction, of laziness, and involvement. And sort of feeling tired of space, and trying to create more and more, complications which seem to become enjoyable, in some ways. At least in kind of occupation. But on the whole that attitude of practice of meditation shouldn't be therapeutic, or mental gymnastic -- as I've said already, which is very important. And often there is this notion of meditation as being healthy thing to do, from therapeutic point of view. It may be presentable, if you feel meditation practice is not in keeping with society or something.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: It's very difficult to persuade Americans to do anything unless you can tell them it's good for them. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Or you outlaw it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=8921.0,9052.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: A little while ago, Jean Fischer said, \"Now, is it just watching your mind?\" And you said, \"Well, that's not quite right. That's not exactly it.\" That's a touchy point. Do you want to go into it further?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems to be question of -- how can we put it -- sort of, *being* your mind, rather than watching. Because when you begin to watch, the \"you\" and \"mind\" are separate thing. Already there's conflict, uncertainty. Seems quite simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: It's desperately simple. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: But being the mind, there's nothing that you can *do* with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is doing everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Be careful--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=9052.0,9142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: Earlier you've been talking-- when we've been talking about witnessing things, you've been saying, well, witnessing is still a form of looking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: What I was going to say was, when you talk about awareness of the breath you're not in any way talking about witnessing the breath.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Being it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Identification with the breathing, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to make my point of this particular term, \"identification\" with the breathing rather than awareness of breathing or meditating *on* the breathing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=9142.0,9169.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 43]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: What’s the technique of identifying with the breathing? Does it help, you know, getting rid of the dualities?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you're completely one with the breathing, at that moment is concerned, there's no conflict. If you are what you are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: And if thoughts come?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they become irrelevant.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: So that's what [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They become transparent. That doesn't mean to say you've reached state of without thought, necessarily. They *could* be there.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEAN FISCHER: Say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could have thoughts in while you're meditating is going on, slowly, so to speak. But somehow they are transparent thoughts rather than solid thoughts.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: That's why you call the crutch, you use the technique, to get rid of the duality. To *help* get rid of the duality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, you have to use duality as path, and then itself wears out, rather than get of it by throwing away. So the crutch is like techniques, yeah. Fundamentally it's duality, but presently while you're meditating with breathing, becoming one with breathing, you are walking with the crutches, your foot are your crutches. And when person walk with their crutches, person sometimes forget that he's walking with the crutches. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=9169.0,9269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Well, why would you say that perhaps witness or witnesser will, like Richard Alpert talks about, that watching oneself as a kind of technique, wouldn't be an acceptable dualistic technique. In other words, a way to get that to one eventually one has to merge with the witness, also. 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It is simply just following the first turning of wheel of doctrine, and second and third process. That what we have-- we could do is we don't have to read all the books necessarily, but we could go through the practice, or the contents of the teaching, the evolutionary process of teaching, that's been presented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491#t=9533.0,9663.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148907/file/273491/transcript/80088/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Rinpoche, it's now five o'clock. And, if people are going to break for dinner, would it be all right to stop now and meet again at eight?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN WATTS: Yes. 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