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Builds on imagery from the previous talk with vivid descriptions of beings who roam the charnel ground as infant-like, nascent in awareness and understanding. Discusses the spark of inquisitiveness that leads these beings to explore their surroundings: a dazed search for a mother figure amidst the rotten sights and smells of the charnel ground. In order to build the mandala, we must mature beyond this infantile state and become “citizens” through the development of discriminating awareness. This means direct engagement with our surroundings and the ability to clearly understand things as they are."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["AUDIOCD: Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas (Kalapa Media, out-of-print)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Nov 06 2018 to Nov 21 2020\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Matilda Perks\nFinal Proof: Travis May, Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The development of discriminating awareness and the role it plays in the evolution of the mandala. Builds on imagery from the previous talk with vivid descriptions of beings who roam the charnel ground as infant-like, nascent in awareness and understanding. Discusses the spark of inquisitiveness that leads these beings to explore their surroundings: a dazed search for a mother figure amidst the rotten sights and smells of the charnel ground. In order to build the mandala, we must mature beyond this infantile state and become “citizens” through the development of discriminating awareness. This means direct engagement with our surroundings and the ability to clearly understand things as they are."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/815/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754168157","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754168144_19760319vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":3075.27875,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/815/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754168157","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/815/original/1754168144_19760319vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3?1754168146","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3075.27875,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760319VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"﻿[19760319VCTR1 - Public Seminar - NYC - Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, held in New York City. This is talk number two, “Discrimination”, held March 19th, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is the second talk in the series The Mandala Principle and the Three Yanas, given in New York City, in March of 1976, by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This particular talk is entitled \"Discrimination\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=0.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'd like to make sure that everybody heard, at the far end, last night's talk. Is it okay in terms of sound, so to speak? Good.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, we should go further in what we discussed last night. Maybe we should also try to understand why these activities taking place in the charnel ground that we discussed last night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=41.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We may be jackals and ravens and vultures, dogs, and so forth; but still, in this particular charnel ground, we are very young. We feel that as if we just been plopped on that area where a lot of activities taking place. There is possibilities that we might become somewhat inquisitive and explore the situations around us. That we might crawl around, being very lonely. We look for a mother figure, a corpse of feminine body, crawl over them, and we're trying to suck their milk, or bite their tits. Or on the other hand, we should-- we could try to become Tarzan. That the local animals can bring us up as children of the charnel ground.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=155.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we don't see what's actually happening, what's actually taking place, at all. We're dazed in smelling the incense of rot, and hearing all these-- hearing all these noises, and using what is available as our toys. We are very young, there, in this charnel ground, very young, extraordinarily young. Almost equivalent of twenty months, very young. So young that we have no idea of getting away from dangerous animals, or seeking for food apart from instinct that you might crawl to mother body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=306.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before we build any kind of structure in that particular situation, that we actually have to grow up and become a citizen of that particular charnel ground. Which is important, very necessary. To develop some sense of discrimination, actually, which doesn't particular sounding buddhistic, per se, but that's the beginning of buddhism. That develop some sense of discrimination at the beginning -- to realize what's happening. That we can't be completely dazed and overwhelmed by the situation. During the day that we listen to the sounds of wind, we feel the dust in our hands, in our mouth. And we listening to various animals roaming around. And during night we try to fall asleep, and fascinated by the stars and the galaxies in the sky. That kind of complete dazed life does not make any sense. Have to be something *more* than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=434.0,602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is time to grow up! It is also time to realize the problems of discrimination and the promises of the discrimination, simultaneously. The original separation is not regarded as obstacle. It's time to acknowledge that basic split is both a source of nuisance as well as source of inspiration. That without that approach, it would be very hard to grow up, become adult. The discrimination is necessary when there is a sense of play is taking place. Play between the phenomena, and play in one's own mind, where the big misunderstanding is actually taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=602.0,798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, first of all, this child is becoming exceedingly inquisitive -- what is all about? But that seem to be necessary, rather than regarded as hang-up, particularly. This child is becoming upset, frustrated, that the sun doesn't rise in time and it feels cold, and bored with the stars, gazing at the stars. And this child is begin to celebrate when the dawn is begin to occur. This child begin to chew the dust from the ground, trying to find out how's it *sound* like by crunching dust in between teeth, or sound of swallowing, how the sound is transmitted in your ear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=798.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be natural growth, which actually is a process that has been presented in the teachings. That such intelligence not regarded as a problem. That we usually panic, exaggerate a great deal, and we got to find something wrong with what's happening. But in this case, what's actually happening, what's actually taking place, is expressions of discrimination.\r\n\r\n\r\nDiscrimination here does not necessarily mean to say, pick and choose or reject and accept, particularly, but *identifying* certain situations on the spot. Very clear, precise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=926.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As this child become bigger, it *heightens* the sense of discrimination further, much further. It becomes much more vivid, at the same time further painful, of course. Because the more you realize the conflict and dichotomies that exist in the situation, it becomes much more vivid and frightening, almost to the level of freaky situation. But however, whole thing is regarded as very important and absolutely necessary that we have to go through that kind of discrimination. That we have negative thoughts, positive thoughts -- we have jealous, anger, that we have overindulgence in intellectualizing, overindulgence in emotionalization, whatever we have. And all of those process are expressions of discrimination, and therefore, it is very important to relate with that as being sources-- further sources in what's happening, what might be, in terms of our enlightenment. It's very fascinating, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1009.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level, we have just arrived to the ground, and we just grow up, and we have just explored the situation, and nothing more than that has actually happened. Since nothing more than that has happened, there's not much to do except explore the situation. In exploring the situation, that you begin to find the activities taking place around you in the charnel ground. Where do they come from? They come from some sense of self-existing agitation, signs of life. How that agitation took place, at all? Because of its own physical situations of things have their own places. The vultures have their nest, jackals have their hideaway-- hideout, a corpse have their place to lie down, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1133.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that particular place and situation, then we go beyond that level. Some sense of feedback back and forth takes place, reference point. Certain things been seen as extraordinarily painful. As the traditional textbook described as \"arrow in your eyes,\" it's very painful. And certain things been described in the traditionally as drinking a milk honey broth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1260.0,1312.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we go on that way, that we have to execute those experiences into real life. We have to live with those things. We live them, we experience them, and we experiment with them. We go beyond that, little bit, trying to be slightly more adventurous, and then we find ourselves losing our grip and grasp to the situation, and the situations might begin to take further control. And we lose more grip, more grasp, and we don’t become capable of making things into orderly and keeping control over situations. And we are suddenly overtaken by death, old age, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1312.0,1413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When the person begin to realize that kind of actual truth *in* the self-existing situation already, they're experiencing true dharma. What is true dharma? Experiencing things as they are. I'm sorry, [laughs] there's nothing further fancy than that. Very plain, that's true dharma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1413.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The beginning of the evolution of the three yanas begins this way, as we have described. Sense of discrimination, sense of understanding, sense of realization. Direct understanding of as things as they are, precisely, very clearly. That we begin to have some sense of-- because of the discrimination, awareness of discrimination, we begin to have some sense of a complete cycle that's taking place. Understanding it is very wretched situation of course, but nevertheless, the delight comes from in *discovering* such truth. And that point you don't feel you be trapped at all. You feel you got out of something and still you are in it, nevertheless, but there is some sense of delight, some sense of *discovery* that you have made. Which doesn't say very much, you know that you're going to be back to square one in any time, all the time; but however, that you made some kind of breakthrough trying to understand the mechanism of the whole thing. And you might say to yourself, \"So what?\" But there’s no answer. But still, nevertheless it is very fantastic discovery that you *at least* worked out the map, the geography, so to speak. Nevertheless, at that point, you have no idea how to get out of it, how to control it, how to make into more pleasant, and how to destroy the whole thing and make into pleasure garden at this point. But, nevertheless, it is fantastic, exciting experience that such discovery could take place in-- within the situation of developing discriminating awareness, at that point.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny questions? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1505.0,1671.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, how can one go back to square one without becoming a helpless infant again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fundamentally speaking, you don't go back to square one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Then what does that mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What does it mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What does it mean? Back to square one, figuratively, or however you're using it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it could mean lot of things. It could mean that going back to the problem began already, therefore we have to deal with it. Or else that we are going back to our nest. But in this case, we are using the word or term \"square one\" in terms of being-- square one here is being... going back to womb. Which is not necessarily appropriate, and we have to get out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: We have to get out of it? Is that what you just said?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And yet we still go back to it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: We *don't* go back to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You might have nostalgic effects on that, but nevertheless, we don't do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Didn't you just say that we go back to square one again and again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We do to the certain extent, towards it, but we don't go the *real* hundred-percent square one, each time. If our home is directed in the north, we don't go to the northern land in our village, in our very bed, in our very little home, but we might take few steps towards north.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Or we might look towards the north?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might look towards north, but that doesn't mean to say that we have to actually snuggle ourselves into that nest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1671.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How about if we see it happening around us? Is that sort of like experiencing it all over again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How about Africa, what? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: No, not Africa. How about if we see it happening, all around us, isn't that like going back and experiencing it all over again? In some sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite. You know, you can't repeat your experience, that's for one thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Did you say not quite? Not quite?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't repeat your experience. You never can do that. You have experienced one thing, you can't get to a hundred-percent square one in *any* case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not *personally* speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Not *personally* speaking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or anything, you know, personally or impersonally, we can't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: We could become babysitters, couldn't we?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: We could become babysitters, couldn't we?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But each time it's different.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well, of course--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We can't create the entire situation a hundred-percent level. I don't think we could. That seem to be the problem that we're trying to do that, again and again we trying to become infantile, each time, that we liked our nipples, and we like our diapers, and so forth. And we trying to always *re*create that situation, and the problem began right there. That since we can't actually recreate that situation *at all*. So we have a conflict. Then we go to psychiatrist, do what we do, you know, they'll say, \"Everything's okay, because you are already still baby,\" and, you know, \"go to primal therapy\" or what have you, you know. \"If you want to relive your baby, go ahead and do it.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Sounds like another form of lip service, pardon the pun.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it, perfectly right. That's it, another form of lip service -- or another form of nostalgia, in lie.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In lie?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, telling un-truth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh, and lies. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1829.0,1945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You said that activities come from some sense of self-existing agitation--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --and, that things have their place. Could you say a little bit more about that self-existing agitation, where things-- where the activities come from?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that what's happening right now when you ask the question. [Laughter] That's the kind of situation we are talking about. Which is okay, you know, it's not terribly terrible. But that's what you're doing, right now, self-existing agitation, in asking a question. That's fine. Don't-- please don't feel bad about that but [laughter]. In some sense is remarkable that you can do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, I don't understand that a little. I guess I'll think about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think you can find out quite easily that self-existing agitation is that there's little gaps in the hunger and little sense of unfulfilled gaps taking place. And you get restless, like the animals in the zoo get restless when they know it is about feeding time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Where that agitation comes from, it's just like a ground, kind of basic ground?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Sure. It comes from basic ground and some sense of wanting to have further feedbacks, which goes with some kind of hunger and some kind of unattended, need for further -- and also a natural cause, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Natural cause?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you know, if you’re-- if you are simply lying there, you be agitated by having too much rest, and you look for something better to entertain you, and so forth. [Speaking French] Ca va?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Uh, somewhat. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Think about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1945.0,2140.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yesterday, we talked about two kinds of split: The first basic split, which is the charnel ground, and the schizophrenic split, which is the neurotic level that we usually exist on. Are you, tonight, saying that the nature of the path is to bring discriminating awareness to bear on the schizophrenic level, which is what is ordinarily available to us, so that we see it's connection with the basic split?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yes. We can't go back to basic split and try to work that out. For that would be too confusing if you don't realize where we are now. So you start with the first comes first, and then second level begin to take place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But there's this basic connection between the two.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There is, obviously, yeah, otherwise you wouldn't be there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. Well, would you say that that definition of the path is a general buddhist definition of the path or is it a peculiarly tantric definition.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's fortunately or unfortunate, whatever's it may be, is a tantric one. It's somewhat yogacharan approach of some kind of element of that, nevertheless, but it is definitely vajrayana approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So that's the vajrayana definition of seeing things as they are, which is the first yana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, the vajrayana's notion of first yana.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=2140.0,2244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Back there? Oops.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems to me that the basic process of identification, the identificatory business of \"this\" and \"that\" and \"me\" in itself produces a constant puzzle that has tremendous energy in itself. I mean even something like a concept which-- success or failure, even if it's nonsense has tremendous sort of driving life force in it somehow or other. I was wondering if you'd comment on that as the-- what is the basic activity of the charnel ground?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's already there and I don't think there's need for describing them further. If you reflect on it, you'll find out, very simply. Charnel ground is a portrait of your life, everybody's life. It's somewhat a much more juicier junk yard. That it is self-explanatory in some sense. It had to be experienced, definitely, rather than theorized, you know. It's the real thing, as they say. The real thing. 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And I was wondering what you do at this point? Or what happens at this point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, we are not here to diagnose people's sicknesses. We trying to tell them how to practice meditation. You don't do anything, you might find out what to do as you go on in the practice. That seem to be the difference between group therapy-ing or psychiatry-ing, opposed to sitting practice. We are not into giving little anecdotes, here and there [makes whispering noise] . As simple as that.\r\n\r\n\r\nEverything has to come out in the open. Either it is a personal case, or group case, national case, cosmic case of the neurosis, whatever they may be. Or divine case, what neurosis they may be. But the point doesn't seem to be-- it's like giving a driving lesson and going along with the rhythm and going along with the law and speed of the city, and how to relate with the first and the second or third traffic light. And this traffic light is not usually guarded by the police or you might have to turn right or left, but you can't go straight in case somebody is coming across. And that's not the case, this case. It's honest, and very personal, but at the same time very impersonal, nevertheless.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does this whole sensation, or [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything connect with that situation of, you know, how to handle speed, how to handle directions, and there are *millions* of directions taking place all along. And otherwise our literature going to become millions of volumes, so that nobody can actually *read*. We can't even afford to have an encyclopedia because encyclopedia itself become millions of volumes if we have to, you know, record every case, every possibility of what we could be able to do. So, it's a personal case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=2394.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What is the relationship of the basic split to the birth experience? Does the birth experience happen because of the discrimination and the basic split, or does it happen after, into the charnel ground when you have the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Birth-- you mean the actual physical birth? We just be born. You grow up, that's it. It's not particular statement of anything, you just be born, that's all. And we don't want to make particularly big deal about \"when you born, you are innocent and when you grow up, you become dirty.\" You are born as you might *be*. You carry along your baggage along with you, any case. So birth doesn't make all that much big deal, particularly at all. You just be born as nice little kid, and you grow up as a nasty monster, [laughter] whatever have you, you're fantastic person, charming fellow. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And does this have to do with much more with just perceptions of the world around us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the basic situations and beyond that, beyond that level, beyond birth and death, and the whole thing that we trying to deal with. We are not purely trying to deal with this life *alone*, of the hassles of birth and death and between the two, but we are trying to work with the *whole* thing, *all* the time. And completely that we're trying to wipe out samsara altogether. That's what we are concerned with. So we are not involved with the little sections of little lives you have, as you go on, in this world.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: One other question, what is the relationship of the primordial ground, that I've heard talked about, to the charnel ground?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you mean by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I've heard discussed that a primordial ground of where being-ness rises out of. And I'm wondering what-- if, you know, if that's a notion or a concept that's used in the buddhist teachings then what's the relationship with the charnel ground, as a place we begin to experience the basic split?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's a place to raise experience of basic split, naturally. There is a place to experience some sense of *flip*, so to speak. But beyond that, is haven't seen, haven't experienced, because we are so preoccupied. But what's happening since then?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Since the flip?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yep. [Laughter] But it is possible to see that, that it is not particularly mysterious, not at all, not mysterious. But it occurs to us every moment, that flip takes place, every moment. So, in this case primordial is not so much of case history, once upon a time, but this case the primordial events being every minute's event, taking place all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=2625.0,2894.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, during our discussion after hearing the tape, we were talking about what you had said yesterday about the charnel ground and we're-- among us we're trying to get a clearer idea as to what you meant-- maybe this isn't the right way to put it, but as to what you meant the charnel ground *is*. And I was wondering, is the charnel ground the same thing as samsara? Well, let me ask that you were saying a few minutes ago, you said the charnel ground is a portrait of your life, and the charnel ground is a portrait of everybody's life. And is that the same thing as samsara?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's quite subtle actually we could-- it's very complicated that point, trying to figure out which is which, what is what. But charnel ground seem to be a natural background where that basic split took place. And within that we have confused, in that situation we have confused as to which is which, what is what. So, we could say charnel ground is *somewhat* connected with samsara; but also, at the same time, charnel ground is regarded as basis of everything that real world is taking place, at the same time. So we can't say actually it is hundred-percent samsara, it's both in some sense. Because even in the nirvana level, that we have to have some kind of reality taking place. You can't be completely clean-cut and beautiful. Everything's flowers and honey and milk and rainbows.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And the charnel ground is the reality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, in that point. So it's depends on the person's perspective. It's both the imaginary confusion and imaginary one's hopes, expectations, as well as it is basis of totality in where actually reality takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=2894.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82217/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's getting rather early. And we should close I think this point. And you could save your questions tomorrow if you like.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=3074.0,3075.27875"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760319VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=0.47,4.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Mandala\nPrinciple and the Three Yanas,\nheld in New York City.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=4.05,8.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number two,\n“Discrimination”,\nheld March 19th, 1976.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=8.23,14.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made August 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=14.36,20.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This is\nthe second talk\nin the series","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=20.39,22.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Mandala Principle\nand the Three Yanas,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=22.87,25.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given in New York City,\nin March of 1976,\nby Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=25.6,32.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This particular talk\nis entitled \"Discrimination\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=32.46,37.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'd like\nto make sure\nthat everybody 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What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1864.23,1865.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Not\n*personally* speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1865.43,1866.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or anything,\nyou know, personally or\nimpersonally, we 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Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1958.04,1959.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: --and,\nthat things have their place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815#t=1959.43,1961.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154716/file/283815/transcript/82218/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Could you say a little bit more\nabout that 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