{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/g73707zx5f/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1971-11-19: Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma: Talk 3: Patience and Discipline"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1971-11-19"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/745/show\"\u003eTibetan Buddhism and American Karma\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 3: Patience and Discipline"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Spirituality in America","Buddhist Foundations"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExamines karma in context of presentation of the talk. Karma as active process, involves combination of patience and discipline. Describes community of practitioners and their development of sanity and earthiness. Discipline and patience as tuning into things as they are, beyond concept. Can impact American karma. Importance of the individual, questioning, taking responsibility for one's country. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q12] whether one has to suffer to learn, the cause of suffering; [Q13] what sets America apart from rest of West; Trungpa Rinpoche's teacher Jamgon Kongtrul as telling him America would be only hope for dharma in West; [Q15] working with pessimism about world through meditation; [Q18] how one knows whether one is acting properly in a situation.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 03 2021 to Jun 11 2026 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R7"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExamines karma in context of presentation of the talk. Karma as active process, involves combination of patience and discipline. Describes community of practitioners and their development of sanity and earthiness. Discipline and patience as tuning into things as they are, beyond concept. Can impact American karma. Importance of the individual, questioning, taking responsibility for one's country. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q12] whether one has to suffer to learn, the cause of suffering; [Q13] what sets America apart from rest of West; Trungpa Rinpoche's teacher Jamgon Kongtrul as telling him America would be only hope for dharma in West; [Q15] working with pessimism about world through meditation; [Q18] how one knows whether one is acting properly in a situation.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260703-3119242-5kroun.mpga"]},"duration":5111.53631,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/313/527/original/open-uri20260703-3119242-5kroun.mpga?1783093614","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":5111.53631,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711119VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711119VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma - Talk 3] \r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, given in Boulder, Colorado. This is Talk Three, given on November 19th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Tibetan Buddhism and American Karma, held in Boulder, Colorado on November 1971. This will be talk number three, November 19th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=27.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hear what we discussed last night had produced some understanding of basic mechanism of karma. If not, we could discuss again with the discussions that we having tonight. And I feel that we could go beyond that tonight in terms of talk. And this process of seminar is could be said on the speed of walk of a tortoise. That we're walking very slowly and very surely, but still tortoise carries its shell. That we walking-- we-- our style of seminar is that style of a tortoise's walk carrying its shell of ideas and concepts. But we're going slowly, surely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=46.0,125.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So karma, inescapable situation. So much so that we are here together, inescapable. You been magnetized to be here as well I been magnetized to be here. And beyond that, karmic situation starts from dualistic split, as we discussed yesterday, of \"me\" and \"mine\" are not quite certain, therefore have to establish, reestablish its pattern as it is. So how we going to apply the karmic situation a living situation as individual?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Whispering] Fuck you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=125.0,209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karmic situation cannot exist by itself without cause and effect as we know. But that cause and effect also contains tremendous process of patience and relating with that situation. In this case, patience is karmic situation of dualistic clinging or volitional action, which pushes us into behave as neurosis people-- neurotic people as well as sane people. So karmic situation is related with the active process. That particular active process of karmic situation had to be digested and, as well as had to be felt, properly and honestly. In a sense, we could say ritualistically that karma of us being here together is not pure accident, but a seeming accident. No doubt about that. But what [INAUDIBLE] and talking together, that it is ritual that we are performing here all together. The audience are sitting, listening, and this particular speaker is talking, and it's a process of a ritualistic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=209.0,325.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular ritualistic process that we have created by our communal karmic situation that we have created provides patience. That at the same time, if you wanted to walk out this very moment, that you have certain-- sudden urge to eat vanilla ice cream. You can't just do it, because you have this urgence [sic] that we will put off that urgency to eat vanilla ice cream. And we sit here and sit here and sit here trying to hear something, trying to communicate with this particular freak who's speaking. At the same time, this particular situation is could be said is gullible situation. That this particular freak could be un-compassionate, inhuman, in this particular person is related to audience as well as charlatan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=325.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seemed that all situation that what we are at, where we are right now, this very moment is related with basic and fundamental patience. That we decide to open ourselves in spite of aversion that you have, go out and lay down and sleep and stretch in your bedroom, or decide to order vanilla ice cream, whatever it's may be. That all these temptations be controlled, overcomed by this particular audience in a sense. That we could say this particular audience had achieved a perfect example of equanimity as well as patience, if I may say so. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=441.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this is not just trying to hold off your pressure, knowing that you're going to explode, but you're relaxing, you're accepting, you're opening possibilities of understanding something out of this gathering, which is extremely progressive and creative situation. So therefore, that everybody who take part in this audience are sitting on earth, sitting on the ground, literally and scientifically, spiritually. That seems nobody is perching on anywhere. Everybody seem to be settled down and sitting on somewhere, because they want to hear what they would like to hear, but that's not the point. [Laughter] But they are prepared to listen, and they're prepared to sit on ground, and nobody's perching on their feet. Everybody's sitting on somewhere, some ground. That's perfect example of a starting point of earthiness quality of it. So does speaker, [laughing] as well as the audience. [Laughs] Speaker is quite free, feels quite at home, and particularly doesn't want to lay heavy trips on anybody. [Laughter] But he just says things [laughter] between his belch. [Laughter] Speaker does it. [Laughs] So the situation that we have managed to create is [unknown incident or gesture] [laughter] very relaxed, very earthy, very sane, and very beautiful. That this could be said to a lot of people that who took part in the community, in the town situation, or the land situation, had developed enormously of this energy. I could say with my conviction that they have really become saner or more earthy, more real, more individual. And I was so impressed by my returning from my travelings, that such reception of sanity was tremendously overwhelming. In a sense, you could say it is a dream coming true. That we in America could establish proper footing of proper foundation of the dharma without any difficulty. That's one of the beautiful receptions or very beautiful situation that we have developed, which is extremely interesting and exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=513.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But talking about this karmic situation of relating with patience is seem to be another matter. That let me describe the different subtleties of the patience that we are talking about having related with karmic situations of cause and effect. That we find ourselves being here, listening to this particular speaker, and sitting this particular floor without having chairs. Even those who sit on a chair still don't seem to be particularly perching. But they are really sitting settled down on their chairs and listening. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Here. That's good shot. [Laughter] It's okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: I think we've got some[INAUDIBLE] [laughter] [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=748.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are talking about patience. Sanskrit word for \"patience\" is \"shila,\" \"discipline,\" \"forbearance,\" and the Tibetan word is \"tsultrim,\" which also means, \"tsul\" means \"proper,\" right at the point, \"trim\" means \"law.\" Tuning yourself into proper situations as it is. And so that next situation of ego related with this particular tsultrim, which is karmic situation could form, could relate itself into some kind of discipline, which is necessary. Since we have already discipline of being together and everybody is decide to be earthy and solid, so to speak. Everybody's listening and taking part completely properly. There's sense of unity. No doubt about that. So much so that speaker feels freer to speak, which could radiate from the audience. Never mind about that particular situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=854.0,963.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, that when we talk about patience, it's doing things properly, completely. Like we are trying to create this shrine and prostrate. That we have to get into properly of the heights and dimensions. The shrine is properly created or not, whether it's off-centered or not, when the whole thing is related properly, tables set up and pictures hanging up behind it, completely properly, that is example of patience and discipline. That there's some beauty in it, extremely beauty in it. Extreme beauty in it. There's sort of earthy situation of the whole thing. So discipline or patience in this case is also earthy situation at the same time. That there-- we could say that there is the frivolous patience, purely based on a matter of notion of things should be as they are, but not actually experiencing things as they are completely. And whole patience is inspired by seduction. That you are more seduced by situation, that much you can indulge in it before you get tired of it. That's frivolous patience, because you would like to receive something in ourselves, therefore, we would like to get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=963.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then there's another kind of patience, which is tuning into situation as they are. Not trying to set prescribed predictable patterns, \"me or myself\" and \"me and my relationship with the situation as it is,\" which is what's called bodhisattva's idea of shila-paramita, discipline which transcends concept. Transcendental discipline, which is related with the actual earthy situation, related with the earth, and not trying to turn summer into winter, because you're too hot, or winter into summer. On the other hand, summer into winter, because you are too cold. Sorry I lost track. [Laughter] In any case, you know what I mean. [Laughter; laughs] Trying to change season in other word, what I mean. [Laughter] That what is there is not enough, therefore, what he had imposed what isn't in that situation. That's next step of patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1090.0,1190.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this karmic force, gigantic process that we're dealing with in the seminar, is a very big thing, extremely important in our future references of American karma is extremely important to discuss. But before we get into the mundane, frivolous, political, spiritual, and drug... and all sorts of other controversies involved, we have to set up the basic pattern in terms of understanding really things as they are. There are students who take part in this particular seminar had to be intelligent students, I feel. I wish. I would like to rather than gullible or simple-minded. They're purely-- they should not be intoxicated by the informations alone, but they should have individualities of their-- what they're doing, what they're into, what is implication behind it. Whole thing should be very dignified situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1190.0,1284.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The patience and the quality of being patient is one of the particular direct force, acceptance, try not to changes one situation, another situation, which seem to be extremely important. That we are suffered by neurosis. We have been suffered by living in luxurious place. We have been suffered by stupid people who does not understand the subtleties of life. And we have been suffered from those who are seduced person by simple-minded spiritual trip. At the same time, these all process seem to be ugly, extremely ugly. Grotesque, if I may so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1284.0,1362.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Psychological materialism, physical materialism, *and* spiritual materialism that people have been reduced into dust. They been reduced into pig with blankets on their eyes. \"I got something to say. Eat this. Don't question. This is the only answer, man.\" [Laughter] \"Eat it, don't smell it.\" [Laughter] \"Open your mouth and chew it. Or maybe not chew it at all, but just swallow it.\" [laughter] We feel we suffered this politically and spiritually as well at the same time. We suffer from this as we be treated as a hypnotized pig politically as well as spiritually in this country. That we suffer lot. And it seems that we have a right to rebel against that, to question the whole thing. If you been tuned into spiritual materialism question, if you tune into materialistic-- psychological materialism question, political whatever is may be, social setup whatever is may be, question them. That everybody has a right to question and be brave, be what they are, use the intellect. Trying to raise their buddha nature, which is extremely important in this case. And that's where the patience comes in. And impatient situation is comes from we being subdued altogether or seduced altogether, therefore, that we don't feel like questioning because seem-- things seem to be okay. That we don't want to get into it by making our own private research work, because somebody else already done the research work. They already put out a formula or blueprint for us to how it is good, how it is feasible us to work into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1362.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So patience is much broader than what we are talking about. Is a critical mind to ignite the basic critical mind, psychology of critique, psychology of awake. Not purely just depend on informations alone, but question yourselves, and relate with your situation of karmic situation. \"How, why am I in this particular chess game? Should I use my pawn or should I use my queen, or the king, or the general?\" That's purely up to you. You could develop intelligent way of how to play this game of chess, relate with the karmic situations. And that seem to be one of the basic questions that we are discussing in this seminar is that you are worthy of it. You haven't made mistakes so far, as we know. No doubt about that. Because everybody's patient enough, seemingly, to sit and listen. That's, in itself, is first step, whether belief or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1523.0,1627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seems people allow to have space in this particular discussion. They're willing to hear, rather than purely they're willing to talk. Willing to allow space between two situations, which is extremely beautiful situation. That this particular karmic situation of leading from cause and effect, a chain reaction of karma, in order to work how American karma, which I'm sure all of you are responsible to it, everybody's contribution toward yourself is the-- that you are changing the case history of American karma altogether. That everybody's extremely important, unique person. You can't be reduced into somebody else's replica. What you are individually, what you are everybody's audience. They could relate with the karmic situation of America as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1627.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we all have this tremendous, great responsibility dealing with millions of people in this country, as well as that we have relation with future for whole-- world as whole, altogether. It seems that as we see it America is the hope for the future, or for that matter you could say North America -- Canada and United States. [Laughs] The North American intelligence is the source for future of mankind on this particular planet called Earth. And maybe we could relate with Mars, Pluto, Jupiter, goodness knows. [Laughter] It is possible. Intelligence of North America could extend to the solar system provided if they're patient enough. [laughs] Provided if they're patient enough. Sorry to lay heavy trips on you. Perhaps we-- I should stop talking. [Laughter] We should have discussions on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nAny questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1714.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When you talked about the chess, the analogy of chess, it sounded like strategizing an approach to the karmic situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: A little louder please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering] Fuck you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The example of chess sounded like strategizing an approach to the karmic situation. And I was under the, sort of, feeling before that any strategy is doomed to failure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, it seem to be that this particular strategy have to relate with what you are and watching your own footstep. It does not-- you can't lay heavy trips on somebody else if you don't watch your own footstep. It's related with your own health, directly and simply, precisely where you are at.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But how's that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Strategy comes from if you walk on icy road or whether you are walking on rocky mountains, whatever is may be, the situation provide you the full strategy. I mean, you can't dream yourself while you're swimming in ocean as though you're walking on the mountains, rocky mountains. So you have to dealt with each situations as they are. It is could be said as a strategy, of course, related with each situation. But you're not expanding your ego with others at all. You're relating with factual situation as they are. It's a strategy all right, but it's a strategy in the smallest scale of trying to awake the intuitive insight opposed to strategy laying your trips on others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1843.0,1984.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I can see how that's knowing your own position in where you're at, but at the same time, it looks like it's sort of an ambitious attitude, because it's like looking for a change of something else at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems we need that particular kind of ambition in related with the progress of delightful situation of present situation as they are. We need that kind of ambition, which is extremely necessary. So ambition is fundamentally not condemned, but it is depend on the style of the ambition. Style of the ambition. How you execute your ambition, whether it is ambition of ambition, whether it is simple ambition. I mean, we could say that our meeting here together, altogether, is very ambitious step. Proclaiming that we have something to say, that we have something learn together, and our community setup as whole is extremely based on ambition. But, at the same time, it is whether based on ambition of trying to exclude other space or trying to experience the creative process which exist within our ambition itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1984.0,2096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: How is it possible to understand what one's own situation in relation to karma and suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that happens isn't it? You have suffering already. You experience suffering automatically as what you are. And the karma situation happened that way, doesn't have to be need any explanation of any kind at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I didn't understand [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't need put karmic situation of suffering or otherwise, whatever's may be, put into categories any kind, because you are what you are. You are right in there, you're right there. When you suffer, that situation or the characteristics of suffer has the qualities of trying to slow you down or else trying to push you beyond a cliff. That means that you have to go much faster than you be doing so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2096.0,2176.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: But doesn't ambition imply--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your hand? Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What-- doesn't ambition imply lack of something? It's not complete. Ambition isn't complete. And if you're-- if you have ambition, how could you attain something complete? In a complete state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on whether ambition is begun. Whether ambition is based on this characteristics of stepping out of ambition, you can have that ambition of generous non-ego mentality of the ambition. But, if the ambition is based on purely building up on centralizing notion, that that seem to be defeat its purpose altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Isn't ambition that is within people is-- especially in the West, is just striving toward?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. I mean-- you see, that's the whole point. We don't really want to make generalization of anything at all. It had to be related with individual merit. Westerners are not particularly stupid as much as the Easterners at all. And we should not be ashamed of our Western situation at all. Spiritual search is not based on trying to become Easterner. It is impossible. If you trying to become-- trying to change the course of sun, if you're trying to create the sun could rise in the West and could set in the East, it wouldn't work, it wouldn't happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2176.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, when you're understanding karma, let say you[INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When you're understanding karma and you get a certain life, the things in your life that you feel you're going to karmically suffer for, when the suffering starts coming, does it make any difference whether you know where it's coming from, which situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't hear. SPEAKER5: In the understanding of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Can you say it louder, so everyone can hear? [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: When you do things karmically, do they-- when you do things in your life which you feel will karmically bring suffering, does it matter, when you start suffering, which situation it's coming from? Or is it just a general understanding of suffering, you know, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that you don't have to analyze yourself. It seem that to be one of the problems that relate with Western psychology, psychological school of thought altogether. That you have-- you are suffering emotional problems today, because you had a bad emotional relationship with your parents in the past. And somehow that particular situation doesn't apply anymore. Because you're suffering *today*, the problem what you are at is you are suffering today, therefore, you need some antidotes and something to relate with today. Doesn't matter what happened in your past, that's not a concern. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But isn't it a concern with whether you can see and understand the suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In order to understand suffering, you can't understand suffering from undoing the past or trying to analyze yourself. Because then you're in the realm of concept, which is unreal in itself. It's a show. And if you wanted to realize or understand the problem of what it is, you can only relate with the present problems. And that seem to be one of the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2303.0,2448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do we create karma for others?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seemingly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do others create for us then too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do others create it for us then too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seemingly. But they can't create karmic situations for you if you're not there. [laughter] But you can't create others' karmic situations if you're not there either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2448.0,2480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Can we learn from the suffering, or how do we deal with it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just learn from it. It's very simple, as Buddha said. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2480.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, in relation to Western psychology, you were talking about what-- the thing that came to mind that didn't seem to click was something like Primal Therapy, which I don't know much about, but perhaps you know a little about. And from the little I know about it, it doesn't really seem to be a conceptual trip, but it seems to be experiential. I mean, it seems to be direct. And it almost seems to be in the present even though it's dealing with the past situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could say Buddha took Primal Therapy course by trying to understand the root of the pain. But at the same time, this particular Primal Therapy that we are talking about is purely based on what you were is what you going to be. So you are trying to create, trying to take advantage of the time situation of what you were is valid. At the same time, you can't deny what you are not with this present situation. And at the same time, therefore, what you were compare that to what you would be in the future. So it seems that you completely bypass what you are, you see, in the present situation. It's dwelling on the past and the future without seeing the present situation, which is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2502.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I don't tend to agree, because while you're experiencing this thing which is supposedly in the past, you're in your imagination or on whatever level you experience it, it happens to be the present.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's always game. You want it to be something else than when you're present. Each time when you have present experience, you regard that as something that you might pass through, rather than what you really are. There's rejection of the present on the concept of what you would like to be. I mean, that's whole idea that involve with, I'm afraid, in the Western psychology, is always like that in that process. That what you are is not important really, in the sense that they don't find out the famous psychologist or psychotherapist, whatever you like to call it. What you are is not really important, because we cannot prove what you are. Therefore, in order to prove what you are, you have to go back on what you were by certain process, analytical process. And then, according to with what you were, we could promise a healthy and sane development in what you will be. So we completely bypass that particular area of what you are. And when you come to person to say that, \"I'm fucked up person. I need help,\" that in itself makes tremendous great impression on psychologists and psychotherapists that what you are is embarrassing situation. [Laughter] That you are in embarrassing situation. You-- and both the physicians and patients agree that what you are is terrible situation. [laughter] \"We would like to ignore that, altogether, and let's work something out [laughter] on what you will be or what you were.\" [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Let's make a side deal. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2616.0,2765.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Many Westerners are-- seem to lay some kind of a moralistic trip on the karma concept. You talked yesterday about, if one is going to kill one's wife, how would one go about it? [Laughter] And you say all of a sudden, \"Arsenic will do it.\" And you go ahead and do it. And then you start this cause and effect roll. But maybe it was a very good thing to do away with the old bitch [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] create bad karma for you. [INAUDIBLE] you could be rewarded for it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the question? What is the question, can you tell me?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Does the act of what seems to a normal man, let's say a very hostile act, per se, create bad karma for that person? Or is judgment on the act also withheld by a higher intelligence, which will say, \"This action was perhaps creative, constructive? And so when we say that such and such is a-- creates bad karma, can we really assume that it does?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Would that be moral laws, which man has evolved over the years, not killing, loving, and so forth, hold through in the absolute sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that again is depends on that implication behind it. Whether that implication behind the moral law is depended on what you trying to achieve. That person could be extremely loving and kind to his millionaire friend, but product is that he want to get more money from his millionaire friend. That's why he's being kind and cordial to that person. It's the implication seem to be more important than what really he does. Or on the other hand, a person decide to be extremely rude and aggressive to his millionaire friend, which could be said is extremely dangerous thing to do, because he would lose his millions of money by being rude to him. And you don't get what you want to do-- what you want to get out of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2765.0,2962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: To address to the previous questioner's question, I still have a question. What about mercy killings in the context of the previous question?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mercy?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Killings. In a hospital sometimes the-- a doctor may be tempted to put a patient who is going to die anyway, who's in very great pain, out of his misery. This would be classed as murder by our laws, and yet may be a kind act.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I quite agree, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And this would-- say if anybody is poisoning his wife because this was really a mercy killing, I mean, how--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. Yeah, there's the story in the Buddha's life as well. One of Jataka stories of Buddha. That he was once born as a warrior and compassionate bodhisattva warrior. That he realized that there were 500 caravan of people traveling and he knew that this particular bandit who was awaiting for them and the bandit is going to kill all of them. So he decide to kill this particular bandit in order to save 500 lives. That kind of situation could happen. But, of course, it seemed this is extremely dangerous thing to talk about. We could always justify from that point of view without having spiritual basis of anything, how they should relate with their own karma and their own ego as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, I'd just would like to add one little [INAUDIBLE] at the end of that, which is to say something. I always thought that if a person committed any sort of crime it was their own-- their-- the way they saw it. Like if a person hurt and they didn't-- or they killed somebody and there was no-- within them there was no-- I don't know how to say it. There was no reaction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: There was no reaction to the fact they just committed an act and it was neither good nor bad within their own-- their own mind? Then [INAUDIBLE] no karma created from that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In which case?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: In any situation. Like mercy killing, if a person kills and really feels that he did the right thing, then there's no bad karma.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not question of he did the right thing. He thought he do right thing, but whether he is or actually doing the right thing, which is quite different matter altogether. If person really convinced in terms of enlightened attitude, then of course, that whatever is need to be destroyed will be destroyed, whatever is need to be helped had to be helped. That sort of situation happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2962.0,3152.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, do you feel that you have to suffer to learn?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do feel-- do I feel what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That you have to suffer to learn? Is suffering a prerequisite to learning, or [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that's old story. And that's had already been understood. Hundreds of millions of people suffered, therefore, they've learned from that. It's one of the very basic fundamental process. It is obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But isn't suffering essentially something [INAUDIBLE]? It seems to me that after a person has suffered psychologically, he ultimately comes back to what he knew in the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He becomes what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: He comes back to a realization. Though when a person suffers psychologically, it's because, I feel, that he would not accept something he basically knew before his suffering started. So isn't that suffering a kind of a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, suffering process altogether is extremely simple. That if you fail to relate with your earthy situation of your body or your psychological state of the mind-body, then you suffer. Which is a way of bringing you down to the matter-of-fact world, earthy situation. In other word, we could say that if you're dreaming intensely, that you suffer heavily. Because you been dreaming, because you neglect your physical mind-body situation altogether, and you been thrown back to it. Seem to be quite simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3152.0,3287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, what is it that sets North America apart from the rest of Western culture, say Europe, South America?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that, I mean, whole process of North America is extremely involved with the materialist gain altogether, and extremely sophisticated from that sense. That there's greater deal of population are reacting against of this materialistic gain and pleasure. And because of that intensity, therefore, there's more understanding or wisdom is involved. I remember my guru Jamgon Kongtrul was talking to me about-- we were discussing that what is possible place that we could relate with the teachings in the outer world, supposing if we have to leave Tibet. And he actually said that America is the only hope. But at that point, I interpreted his remark was purely because Americans are fighting against the Communist China [laughter], therefore it was Americans are the only hope! [laughter] But I mean it was-- so it was about eight years double take [laughter; laughs] that I realized that he didn't mean politically alone at all. It was hope, yeah, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3287.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, do you think that the drug scene in this country has any-- has had any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Do you think that the drug scene in this country has had any unique affect upon the karma? Or is it-- or has it just been part of the overall process?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so. I mean, you can't ignore that particular historical events. [Laughter] I mean, it's obviously had something to do with landmark of America, definitely. But I mean, one can't say that is *the* ultimate promises for that matter, on the other hand at all. It's one of the process that we have to relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3402.0,3457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, in talking about American karma, you know it's really nice to hear somebody say that there's hope. Because lately-- you know, I've been really pessimistic and looking for a way in which I can improve my lifestyle, and affect what is happening in America in the world today. And I just don't know how to do it, because I've been so pessimistic. You know, I hear them-- they're exploding bombs, and it just seems they're getting heavier and heavier into very negative actions. And I just wondering if you can elaborate on...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: If you can elaborate on that hope that you feel. You know, like where, in which way can something good happen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem that there is-- I wouldn't say that America-- all American nation is going to become Buddhists or Hindus, or everybody simultaneously going to meditate nationwide radio program. [Laughter] But the implication of the philosophy of meditation and philosophy of practice of relate with the mind is extremely powerful and important, it seems to be. That constantly next generations becoming more sophisticated, and they're able to hear the dharma, and able to relate with the open-minded situations. That I mean, we could all relate with-- that your parents for instance. A lot of parents are sort of turn on to it because their children are into it. But at the same time, they can't quite make it, and they appear open-minded to it, and their children are into it much more than that. And because of their children are more into it and they somehow-- some way or other had already developed their mental faculty to understand it intellectually or intelligently for that matter. To understand the subtleties of it beyond cultural barrier of whether this message came from the East or the West doesn't matter at all. And this process develops greater and greater in this situation. And you can imagine that your own children would develop greater than you are, as your parents will be.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it's one of the very interesting point is that one of the prince of Japan decide to become Jewish. [Laughter] That he found tremendous wisdom and tremendous message that involve with Judaism that he decide to become Jewish. And apparently the Israelis are very proud of that whole factor, but nevertheless, however. [laughter] That's perfect example that everybody feels some sacredness involved with their culture, which they seem to be foreign to the others. On the other hand, the cultural base begin to break through and the fundamental qualities begin to become more prominent, more obvious, in the sense there is a great deal of tremendous possibilities of that our future society is going to be more sophisticated, intelligent, and educated, and powerful at the same time. Because, at the same time, they know how to handle situations. I mean, it's quite obvious in a sense, extremely. Needless to say in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3457.0,3712.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, it has been theorized by Western psychologists that when we go into a situation and we suffer some sort of pain from that situation, that it puts in a block in our system, and that present situations just relive-- just make us relive those past situations. And I was wondering how you-- whether you saw that to be the case, or whether that-- indeed that we just change from situation to situation. And that what we learned, we don't really actually relive that pain, it's something new again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, that's quite obvious. In a logical situation, anybody knows, if anybody is intelligent enough to experience the law of logic, that you can't undo the past at all. What you think you are learning from the past you're reliving the past, is you're living-- reliving the present, constantly. I mean, we could say that our seminar we held here this time in last year is not repetitive seminar that we hold in this year, at all. It's another seminar that we holding. Maybe have the same patterns, same qualities, and same gatherings happening, but we are not reliving it. But we are living possible memories of the past but nothing to do with the past at all. It's present situation, so it seems that basically the Western psychologist extremely are turned on to the trying to prove something, trying to use the original scientific analytical way of proving something. And more you involve with the trying to prove something that much you indebted in the concept. You fail to see the present situations. I mean, in a sense, I feel personally myself that the various psychological traditions that developed, particularly related with patients from their psychiatrist, are extremely primitive in a sense, simple-minded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3712.0,3875.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, is there dharma without consciousness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah. That's what mean \"wisdom,\" \"jnana\" is traditionally described as being wise, rather than being conscious of the wisdom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is there dharma with no men, no--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: No human intelligence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that point, cease to become human or animals. Is ultimate understanding of dharma is that you are going back to its root, its source, in some sense. That you transcend the ape instinct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3875.0,3934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Regard to a previous question, how does one know that if he's acting correctly in a situation, or if he just thinks he's acting correctly in a situation? For example, well in the merciful murderer, you know, he could think that he's acting correctly when actually he isn't, you know. How does one, you know, determine whether he's doing that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems to be based on if you're watching yourself trying to be perfect, then you're deluding yourself. Whereas if you're not watching yourself, and relate with the pure situation as they are, then that is in itself expression of compassion. And compassion is rightly in tuned with situation as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What if you're watching yourself be deluded all the time? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that sounds very good, because then you realize that you be deluding yourself. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3934.0,4009.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But you enjoy that state and will not make any corrections.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that means that you are trying to indulge yourself, which means automatically watching yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But the change in behavior takes place.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't get pleasure, superficial pleasure at all, if you're searching for pleasure as such as enter-- or entertaining yourself. That means when you relate with external situation purely. Once you become one with bliss, one with joy, whatever's like to call it, then you don't indulge in it anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4009.0,4062.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: It seems to-- it seems to me that the psychological scars you may have from the past or like are like scars on your body. Like it's the scars, not-- the scar's not the same thing that the-- as the knife that stabbed you, years ago, but the scar is there now and maybe it hurts when it rains. What do you think of that? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds very good, because knife is already gone away and that past situation is related with the present situation automatically with the scar. That there's no point in blaming the knife, but relate with your scar, as present situation which had related with the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4062.0,4144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: If the witness is eliminated altogether, is it-- are there no mistakes [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: There can be mistakes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, there's no mistake at all. Because you have no idea of mistakes to that matter, so that when ideas of mistake's being transcended, so then you are what you are, fully and completely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Mistake's just a concept, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. Not on the things. That's what I mean, nonduality is not removing idea of \"that\" and \"this\" and trying to become one, but you just try to pull out the barrier between \"that\" and \"this.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: What about the next day when the witness comes back, and it seems like it was a mistake?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then you go on and on and relate with that. That's your unique chance to discover the nonduality each time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4144.0,4208.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, is it possible for someone to do something a lot, like smoke a cigarette, get into smoking cigarettes, and it not become an indulgence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Is it possible for someone to do-- to get into the-- possible the habit or the repetition of doing something, like possibly smoking a cigarette a lot, and it not becoming indulgent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's depends on what you regard repetition is hangup or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Well, just indulgence--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If that repetition becomes repetition to your psychological hangup, then it is really hangup. But if you regard as not hangup anymore, then cease to become repetition. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: When I smoke cigarettes, sometimes I actually have a desire. Like after a meal there's a desire for smoking a cigarette, and then it gets a little heavier and heavier and it builds up. Sometimes I like to smoke a lot of cigarettes. [Laughter] I mean, I'm not hung up about it but it really [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, particularly it becomes heavy and heavy if you wanted to give it up, and you feel very heavy that you-- this is something that you shouldn't be doing. You been naughty. [laughter] And--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I give into those vibrations but I do get a feeling, a draw, of smoking once in a while I feel or I identify as indulgence. Just the actual experience, the actual feeling of indulgence--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it sounds like that the whole process of watching yourself of watching yourself, watching yourself, therefore, that process of repetition of watching yourself automatically creates greater intensity of repetition of that particular process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4208.0,4330.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Rinpoche, if the witness was totally eliminated and then there would be no creating, would the mind still have karma to work with from maybe the past, from before whenever there was a witness, or from others when they're involved in certain situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, because karma doesn't extend to the future. Karma can only extend to the present situation. And if the present situation of possibilities of sowing seed of karmic debts, then if you relate with the present situation that you're not sowing seed of karma anymore at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: What about when I've read the words \"ripening karma\" from past lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they can only function with the present situation of some chance. It's sort of waiting to be put into execution. So if there no situation to be put into execution, then there's no karmic situation. That's precisely why practice of meditation is relief from karmic repetitive repetitions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4330.0,4418.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: I've understood that desire is the cause of our being hung up and like, if we can eliminate desire, totally, and then we'll be free and liberated. Now in reference to smoking cigarettes, would it be correct to say that if you can smoke cigarettes without desiring them, then you're free of being hung up on cigarettes or anything else? But if you desire a cigarette and don't get it, well then that seems to bring you down. That seems that you're not free of the cigarette. I don't know what the question was. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that the desire in itself is, and watching of your desire at the same time, breeds further one of possible further desire. It reinforces constantly. And, if there's no sense of watching yourself that you have experience of desire--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, there may not be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or, at the same time, imprisonment to this pain of the desire.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, I'm not talking about witness right now. Like if we do away with the idea of witnessing the act, but just we're aware that we have a desire for something, and if the desire is for a cigarette, and we don't get the cigarette, this is going to cause suffering. Now if we had no desire for the cigarette, one way or the other, well it doesn't matter if we get a cigarette. We can smoke it, or don't get the cigarette. You know, it does not matter. We seem to be free of the cigarette. And this has nothing to do with witnessing the act or not, because the witness is, you know, that's just a judgment thing if it's being happening from there--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the witness happens automatically at the same time. It seems that when there's desire of clinging something, you project yourself to the situation, like having cigarette. And that clinging towards cigarette is reflect back on your basic grasping mind. So the process of cigarette smoking cigarettes is each time when you smoke more cigarettes, you be more reinforced to get into further process. Whereas, if you feel that you're not captivated by it at all, then smoking cigarettes becomes a part of your makeup or sort of process of habitual pattern, which is not-- there's not big deal about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: It seems to me what you're saying is on a very high level, that if you can smoke cigarettes without being attached to them that's all right. But, if you are attached and if you desire them, then smoking them will lead you deeper and deeper into the desire. And I don't-- I think most of us are at a point where like it's the desire hooks us in deeper and deeper and by ingratiating ourselves to that desire and by just going ahead and fulfilling whatever desires we have. We just give that desire more power over us. Whereas, like a person who is at the point where you are will let-- seems to transcend the desire. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't say that's sort of sets a tremendous segregation. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, if it's a truth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that truth lies in the-- in transmuting the desire as you desire and relate with that particular desire, rather than if you are down, you're down, if you're up, you are up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Could you speak a little further about transmuting the desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, trying to use that particular desire is unique opportunity to relate with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, how would that lead you beyond the desire?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you experience desire as it is, then desire in itself contains wisdom, which is not really hard thing to do. Extremely simple in a way. [laughter] If you accept the simplicity of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Isn't the wisdom of desire that it leads to suffering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as joy, or transcends joy altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Rinpoche--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4418.0,4736.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Somebody raised a very concrete example a little while back about the knife and the scar and the scar that hurt when it rained. The materialistic way of dealing with that seem to be somebody would say, \"All right, let's move to a climate where it doesn't rain so much.\" Can you comment on a different way of dealing with the same-- with the scar that hurts when it rains? As a very concrete, you see what I'm-- an alternative way to the way the average American would say, \"All right, let's move to a dry climate,\" trying to take action to nullify the pain, is there another attitude towards the pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to do what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Instead of trying to turn off the pain, through action, it would be typical materialistic American response, can you comment on a different way of dealing with or coming to terms with the pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem to be that process is related with the pain as they are. Not regard the pain as altogether conceptualized hangup anymore at all. As far as pain is concerned, it is not hangup in its own true nature. That's why the concept of egolessness also could exist, because pain does not exist as it is, but pain is based on relative situation. So that if one is able to relate with pain is not being big deal but pain is just an interesting spectrum as they are, so then one begin to appreciate the pain as a unique opportunity to relate with it and one is able to relate very fully and properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4736.0,4864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Where does the whole process of watching yourself watching yourself end?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: End, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Yeah. I mean, it seems like it can go on almost forever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's very interesting point that... you watch yourself that you watching yourself. Introduced by certain particular desire to achieve something, but when you begin realize that when you begin to relate with who's watching, rather than act of watching, which is another twist to the watching yourself. Because when you watch yourself, you automatically presume that you really can watch yourself completely hundred percent, and you just have this blind faith watching yourself is the only answer to secure yourself. So at the same time, nobody has thought of who's the watcher and how that particular watcher could be accurate. So one begin to realize there's doubt of the watcher. Then also the watching yourself begin to break through, that particular mechanism begin to break through. There's no watcher involved at all, so it's a question of giving up hope altogether from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: You mean giving up hope that the watching is going to be accurate--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hope of achievement, of coming to some conclusions in terms of knowledge is separate from you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4864.0,4991.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Well, if the watcher is \"not,\" then the \"not there watcher\" is also not subject to a karma. Does that follow?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all, because then you begin to puncture the port where the karmic liquid could exist. If you realize the watcher is not valid, then port begin to turn into sieve. So the karmic contents can't hold into, it because there's nothing to hold on to.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: So the exercise of this realization is just not the holding onto anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what meditation is all about. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Then why do you need the concept of karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: You need the concept of karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Concept of karma is to realize how the confusion is function of itself, before you get into that point. If you are introduced to light, you have to know what the darkness is to begin with, before you understand about the light. Which is extremely necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4991.0,5085.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95059/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should adjourn. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: I vote for seconds\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think maybe we should ready tomorrow with your patience. [laughter] Thank you, everyone.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5085.0,5111.53631"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711119VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1.43,5.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled Tibetan\nBuddhism and American Karma,\ngiven in Boulder, Colorado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5.45,14.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Three,\ngiven on November 19th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=14.3,20.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made August 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=20.12,27.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=27.71,30.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on Tibetan Buddhism\nand American Karma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=30.82,33.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Boulder,\nColorado on November 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=33.91,37.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number\nthree, November 19th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=37.71,42.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hear what\nwe discussed last night","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=46.97,51.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had produced some understanding\nof basic mechanism of karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=51.03,58.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If not, we could discuss again\nwith the discussions\nthat we having tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=58.98,67.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I feel that we could\ngo beyond that tonight\nin terms of talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=67.58,74.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this process of seminar\nis could be said","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=77.17,83.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the speed\nof walk of a tortoise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=83.54,88.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we're walking\nvery slowly and very surely,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=88.59,92.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but still tortoise\ncarries its shell.\nThat we walking-- we--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=92.56,97.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our style of seminar\nis that style\nof a tortoise's walk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=97.83,103.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"carrying its shell of ideas\nand concepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=103.95,108.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we're going slowly, surely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=108.34,112.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So karma, inescapable situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=125.32,131.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So much so that we are here\ntogether, inescapable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=131.65,138.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You been magnetized to be here\nas well I been magnetized\nto be here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=138.07,145.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that,\nkarmic situation\nstarts from dualistic split,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=151.37,157.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as we discussed yesterday,\nof \"me\" and \"mine\"\nare not quite certain,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=157.5,164.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore have to establish,\nreestablish its pattern\nas it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=164.41,171.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So how we going to apply\nthe karmic situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=175.21,178.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a living situation\nas individual?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=178.18,189.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Whispering] Fuck you.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=189.8,202.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karmic situation cannot exist\nby itself without cause\nand effect as we know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=209.69,218.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that cause and effect\nalso contains\ntremendous process of patience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=218.5,226.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and relating\nwith that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=226.79,230.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In this case, patience\nis karmic situation of dualistic\nclinging or volitional action,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=235.32,244.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which pushes us into behave\nas neurosis people--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=244.67,250.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"neurotic people\nas well as sane people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=250.7,253.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So karmic situation is related\nwith the active process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=253.96,264.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular active process\nof karmic situation\nhad to be digested","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=268.54,274.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and, as well as had to be felt,\nproperly and honestly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=274.88,281.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In a sense, we could say\nritualistically that karma of us\nbeing here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=281.71,287.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together is not pure accident,\nbut a seeming accident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=287.22,293.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No doubt about that.\nBut what [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=293.82,298.063"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and talking together,\nthat it is ritual that we are\nperforming here all together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=300.59,310.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The audience are sitting,\nlistening,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=310.25,315.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and this particular speaker\nis talking,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=315.66,319.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it's a process\nof a ritualistic process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=319.7,325.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That particular ritualistic\nprocess that we have created\nby our communal karmic situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=325.64,336.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have created\nprovides patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=336.84,342.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That at the same time,\nif you wanted to walk out\nthis very moment,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=345.29,353.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you have certain--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=356.65,358.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sudden urge to eat vanilla\nice cream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=358.67,369.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can't just do it, because\nyou have this urgence [sic]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=371.15,376.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we will put off\nthat urgency\nto eat vanilla ice cream.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=376.01,384.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we sit here and sit here\nand sit here trying\nto hear something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=384.08,392.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to communicate\nwith this particular freak\nwho's speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=392.22,399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time,\nthis particular situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=404.19,406.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is could be said\nis gullible situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=406.05,409.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this particular freak\ncould be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=409.75,413.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"un-compassionate, inhuman,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=420.02,426.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in this particular person\nis related to audience\nas well as charlatan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=426.6,434.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seemed that all situation\nthat what we are at,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=441.99,445.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where we are right now,\nthis very moment is related with\nbasic and fundamental patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=445.4,455.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we decide to open ourselves\nin spite of aversion\nthat you have,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=455.03,463.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"go out and lay down and sleep\nand stretch in your bedroom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=463.95,471.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or decide to order\nvanilla ice cream,\nwhatever it's may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=471.28,476.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That all these temptations\nbe controlled,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=476.3,480.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"overcomed by this\nparticular audience in a sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=480.65,484.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we could say\nthis particular audience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=484.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had achieved a perfect\nexample of equanimity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=486.0,493.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as well as patience,\nif I may say so.\n[Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=493.02,505.163"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this is not just trying\nto hold off your pressure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=513.8,525.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knowing that\nyou're going to explode,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=525.46,528.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but you're relaxing,\nyou're accepting, you're opening\npossibilities of understanding","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=528.69,535.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something out\nof this gathering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=535.14,539.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is extremely progressive\nand creative situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=539.75,545.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, that everybody\nwho take part in this audience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=545.18,551.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are sitting on earth,\nsitting on the ground,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=551.73,555.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"literally and scientifically,\nspiritually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=555.64,563.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems nobody\nis perching on anywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=563.5,567.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody seem to be\nsettled down\nand sitting on somewhere,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=567.8,571.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they want to hear\nwhat they would like to hear,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=571.97,576.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that's not the point.\n[Laughter]\nBut they are prepared to listen,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=576.05,581.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they're prepared\nto sit on ground,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=581.71,588.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and nobody's perching\non their feet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=588.24,593.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody's sitting\non somewhere, some ground.\nThat's perfect example","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=595.3,601.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of a starting point\nof earthiness quality of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=601.31,607.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So does speaker,\n[laughing] as well as the\naudience. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=607.3,619.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Speaker is quite free,\nfeels quite at home,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=619.36,626.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and particularly doesn't\nwant to lay\nheavy trips on anybody.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=626.99,633.074"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he just says\nthings\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=635.561,638.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between his belch.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=638.76,645.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Speaker does it.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=645.92,650.542"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the situation that we have\nmanaged to create is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=654.55,658.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[unknown incident or gesture]\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=658.76,663.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very relaxed, very earthy,\nvery sane,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=663.03,669.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and very beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=669.57,671.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this could be said\nto a lot of people that who\ntook part in the community,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=676.28,681.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the town situation,\nor the land situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=683.33,686.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had developed enormously\nof this energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=686.94,691.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I could say with my conviction\nthat they have really\nbecome saner or more earthy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=691.77,699.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more real, more individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=699.87,702.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was so impressed\nby my returning\nfrom my travelings,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=702.89,710.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that such reception of sanity\nwas tremendously overwhelming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=710.2,716.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In a sense, you could say\nit is a dream coming true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=716.86,720.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we in America\ncould establish proper","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=720.46,725.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"footing of proper foundation\nof the dharma\nwithout any difficulty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=725.44,736.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's one of\nthe beautiful receptions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=736.37,738.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or very beautiful situation\nthat we have developed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=738.3,743.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is extremely\ninteresting and exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=743.21,748.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But talking about\nthis karmic situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=748.63,751.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of relating with patience\nis seem to be another matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=751.17,757.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That let me describe\nthe different subtleties\nof the patience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=757.31,761.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we are talking about having\nrelated with karmic situations\nof cause and effect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=761.38,767.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we find ourselves\nbeing here,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=767.52,769.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"listening to this\nparticular speaker,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=769.31,772.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and sitting this particular\nfloor without having chairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=772.83,778.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Even those who sit on a chair\nstill don't seem to be\nparticularly perching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=784.67,789.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But they are really sitting\nsettled down on their chairs\nand listening.\n[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=789.3,800.389"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE]\nAUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=810.32,821.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Here.\nThat's good shot.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=821.12,825.626"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=828.6,828.601"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: I think we've got\nsome[INAUDIBLE]\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=831.13,838.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=839.64,846.767"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We are talking\nabout patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=854.68,858.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sanskrit word\nfor \"patience\" is \"shila,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=862.81,868.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"discipline,\" \"forbearance,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=872.35,879.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the Tibetan word\nis \"tsultrim,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=879.56,884.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which also means, \"tsul\" means\n\"proper,\" right at the point,\n\"trim\" means \"law.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=884.11,893.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tuning yourself into\nproper situations as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=893.73,899.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so that next situation\nof ego related\nwith this particular tsultrim,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=899.24,907.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is karmic situation\ncould form,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=907.2,911.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could relate itself\ninto some kind of discipline,\nwhich is necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=911.16,920.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Since we have already\ndiscipline of being together","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=920.87,925.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and everybody is decide\nto be earthy and solid,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=925.81,934.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=934.96,937.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody's listening and taking\npart completely properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=937.99,942.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's sense of unity.\nNo doubt about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=942.7,950.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So much so that speaker\nfeels freer to speak,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=952.93,957.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which could radiate\nfrom the audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=957.91,961.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Never mind about\nthat particular situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=961.83,963.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, that when we talk\nabout patience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=963.82,968.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's doing things properly,\ncompletely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=968.99,979.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like we are trying to create\nthis shrine and prostrate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=979.54,987.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we have to get into\nproperly of the heights\nand dimensions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=987.59,994.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The shrine is properly created\nor not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=994.45,997.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether it's off-centered\nor not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=997.71,999.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when the whole thing\nis related properly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=999.66,1001.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tables set up and pictures\nhanging up behind it,\ncompletely properly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1001.83,1006.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that is example of patience\nand discipline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1006.31,1010.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there's some beauty in it,\nextremely beauty in it.\nExtreme beauty in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1010.26,1017.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's sort of earthy situation\nof the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1019.69,1023.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So discipline or patience\nin this case is also earthy\nsituation at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1023.36,1030.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there-- we could say that\nthere is the frivolous patience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1037.94,1047.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"purely based on a matter\nof notion of things\nshould be as they are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1047.06,1051.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but not actually experiencing\nthings as they are completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1051.37,1057.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And whole patience\nis inspired by seduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1057.42,1065.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you are more seduced\nby situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1065.7,1068.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that much you can indulge in it\nbefore you get tired of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1068.86,1077.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's frivolous patience,\nbecause you would like to\nreceive something in ourselves,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1077.2,1085.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore, we would like\nto get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1085.14,1090.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then there's another\nkind of patience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1090.26,1093.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is tuning\ninto situation as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1093.43,1100.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not trying to set prescribed\npredictable patterns,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1100.85,1106.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"me or myself\"\nand \"me and my relationship\nwith the situation as it is,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1106.46,1111.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is what's called\nbodhisattva's idea\nof shila-paramita,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1111.11,1118.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"discipline which\ntranscends concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1118.18,1123.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Transcendental discipline,\nwhich is related with\nthe actual earthy situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1123.86,1129.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"related with the earth,\nand not trying to turn summer\ninto winter,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1129.65,1135.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because you're too hot,\nor winter into summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1135.2,1141.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the other hand,\nsummer into winter,\nbecause you are too cold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1144.17,1150.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry I lost track.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1150.01,1157.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In any case,\nyou know what I mean.\n[Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1157.5,1162.655"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to change season\nin other word, what I mean.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1170.04,1174.941"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That what is there\nis not enough,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1176.71,1179.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore, what he had imposed\nwhat isn't in that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1179.44,1185.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's next step of patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1185.33,1190.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this karmic force,\ngigantic process that we're\ndealing with in the seminar,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1190.12,1194.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a very big thing,\nextremely important\nin our future references","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1194.88,1200.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of American karma\nis extremely important\nto discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1200.85,1204.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But before we get\ninto the mundane,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1204.53,1209.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"frivolous, political,\nspiritual, and drug...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1209.38,1217.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and all sorts of other\ncontroversies involved,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1217.96,1223.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we have to set up\nthe basic pattern","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1223.67,1228.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of understanding\nreally things as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1228.71,1233.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are students who take part\nin this particular seminar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1238.19,1242.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had to be intelligent\nstudents, I feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1242.64,1247.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1247.59,1249.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to rather\nthan gullible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1249.39,1254.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or simple-minded.\nThey're purely--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1254.71,1259.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they should not be intoxicated\nby the informations alone,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1259.09,1263.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but they should have\nindividualities of their--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1263.85,1267.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what they're doing,\nwhat they're into,\nwhat is implication behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1267.28,1271.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whole thing should be\nvery dignified situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1271.94,1277.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The patience and the quality\nof being patient","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1284.53,1294.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is one of the particular\ndirect force, acceptance,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1297.89,1307.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"try not to changes\none situation,\nanother situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1307.26,1310.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which seem to be\nextremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1310.76,1314.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we are suffered\nby neurosis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1314.75,1319.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have been suffered\nby living in luxurious place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1321.93,1326.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have been suffered\nby stupid people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1326.09,1334.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who does not understand\nthe subtleties of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1334.16,1338.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have been suffered\nfrom those","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1340.74,1344.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who are seduced person\nby simple-minded spiritual trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1344.68,1349.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time,\nthese all process\nseem to be ugly, extremely ugly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1349.28,1355.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Grotesque, if I may so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1355.48,1360.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Psychological materialism,\nphysical materialism,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1362.97,1367.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"*and* spiritual materialism\nthat people have been\nreduced into dust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1367.96,1375.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They been reduced into pig\nwith blankets on their eyes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1375.1,1383.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I got something to say.\nEat this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1383.63,1386.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't question.\nThis is the only answer,\nman.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1386.75,1392.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Eat it,\ndon't smell it.\" [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1392.31,1397.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Open your mouth and chew it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1397.64,1401.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or maybe not chew it at all,\nbut just swallow it.\"\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1401.19,1407.526"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We feel we suffered this\npolitically and spiritually\nas well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1413.69,1419.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We suffer from this\nas we be treated","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1419.17,1423.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a hypnotized pig","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1423.57,1430.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"politically as well\nas spiritually in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1430.28,1440.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we suffer lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1442.21,1444.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that we have\na right to rebel against that,\nto question the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1444.66,1453.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you been tuned into\nspiritual materialism question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1453.41,1457.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you tune into materialistic--\npsychological materialism\nquestion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1457.75,1462.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"political whatever is may be,\nsocial setup whatever is\nmay be, question them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1462.91,1468.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That everybody has a right\nto question and be brave,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1468.41,1473.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be what they are,\nuse the intellect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1473.86,1478.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to raise\ntheir buddha nature,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1478.5,1482.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is extremely important\nin this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1482.11,1485.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's where\nthe patience comes in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1485.38,1488.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And impatient situation is comes\nfrom we being subdued altogether","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1488.18,1494.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or seduced altogether,\ntherefore, that we don't feel\nlike questioning because seem--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1494.71,1501.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things seem to be okay.\nThat we don't want\nto get into it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1501.93,1507.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by making our own\nprivate research work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1507.18,1512.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because somebody else\nalready done the research work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1512.53,1515.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They already put out\na formula or blueprint\nfor us to how it is good,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1515.25,1519.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how it is feasible us\nto work into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1519.88,1523.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So patience is much broader\nthan what we are talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1523.89,1527.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is a critical mind to ignite\nthe basic critical mind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1527.76,1538.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"psychology of critique,\npsychology of awake.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1538.71,1546.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not purely just depend\non informations alone,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1546.78,1550.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but question yourselves,\nand relate with your situation\nof karmic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1550.39,1555.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"How, why am I\nin this particular chess game?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1555.9,1562.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Should I use my pawn\nor should I use my queen,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1562.14,1566.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or the king, or the general?\"\nThat's purely up to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1566.67,1573.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could develop\nintelligent way of how to play\nthis game of chess,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1573.12,1578.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relate with\nthe karmic situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1578.45,1581.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be\none of the basic questions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1581.77,1583.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we are discussing\nin this seminar\nis that you are worthy of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1583.6,1592.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You haven't made mistakes\nso far, as we know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1592.24,1596.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No doubt about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1596.71,1600.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because everybody's\npatient enough,\nseemingly, to sit and listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1600.64,1608.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's, in itself,\nis first step,\nwhether belief or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1608.4,1614.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seems people allow to have space\nin this particular discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1627.25,1636.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're willing to hear,\nrather than purely\nthey're willing to talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1636.31,1647.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Willing to allow space\nbetween two situations,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1650.14,1654.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is extremely\nbeautiful situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1654.28,1661.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That this particular karmic\nsituation of leading\nfrom cause and effect,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1661.13,1668.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a chain reaction of karma,\nin order to work\nhow American karma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1668.75,1673.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I'm sure all of you\nare responsible to it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1673.95,1678.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everybody's contribution\ntoward yourself is the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1678.89,1685.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you are changing\nthe case history\nof American karma altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1685.08,1689.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That everybody's extremely\nimportant, unique person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1689.94,1696.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can't be reduced\ninto somebody else's replica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1700.24,1704.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What you are individually,\nwhat you are\neverybody's audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1704.96,1710.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They could relate\nwith the karmic situation\nof America as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1710.14,1714.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we all have this tremendous,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1714.02,1716.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"great responsibility\ndealing with millions of people\nin this country,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1716.46,1721.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as well as that we have relation\nwith future for whole--\nworld as whole, altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1721.6,1728.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that as we see it\nAmerica is the hope\nfor the future,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1728.19,1734.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or for that matter\nyou could say North America --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1734.29,1740.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Canada and United States.\n[Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1740.45,1744.959"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The North American intelligence\nis the source\nfor future of mankind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1746.71,1754.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on this particular planet\ncalled Earth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1754.3,1758.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And maybe we could relate\nwith Mars, Pluto,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1758.86,1765.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jupiter, goodness knows.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1765.22,1772.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1772.92,1776.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intelligence of North America\ncould extend to the solar system","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1780.03,1787.483"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"provided if they're\npatient enough.\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1790.62,1796.303"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Provided if they're\npatient enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1797.24,1802.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sorry to lay heavy trips on you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1802.77,1805.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Perhaps we--\nI should stop talking.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1805.05,1808.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We should have discussions\non that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1808.6,1811.714"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Any questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1832.79,1835.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: When you talked\nabout the chess,\nthe analogy of chess,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1843.19,1846.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it sounded like\nstrategizing an approach\nto the karmic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1846.9,1853.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: A little louder please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1853.6,1854.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Yeah--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1854.93,1856.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering]\nFuck you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1856.13,1859.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: The example of chess\nsounded like strategizing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1859.68,1862.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an approach\nto the karmic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1862.31,1864.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was under the, sort of,\nfeeling before that any strategy\nis doomed to failure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1864.95,1872.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see,\nit seem to be\nthat this particular strategy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1872.44,1880.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have to relate with what you are\nand watching your own footstep.\nIt does not--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1880.51,1886.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can't lay heavy trips\non somebody else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1886.76,1889.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you don't watch\nyour own footstep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1889.61,1893.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's related with your own\nhealth, directly and simply,\nprecisely where you are at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1896.16,1903.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: But how's that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1903.96,1909.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Strategy comes\nfrom\nif you walk on icy road","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1909.45,1912.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or whether you are\nwalking on rocky mountains,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1912.73,1916.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever is may be,\nthe situation provide you\nthe full strategy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1916.62,1924.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, you can't dream yourself\nwhile you're swimming in ocean","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1924.62,1930.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as though you're walking on\nthe mountains, rocky mountains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1930.56,1935.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you have to dealt with\neach situations as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1937.87,1942.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is could be said\nas a strategy, of course,\nrelated with each situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1945.53,1950.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you're not expanding\nyour ego with others at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1950.65,1953.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're relating with\nfactual situation as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1953.52,1958.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a strategy all right,\nbut it's a strategy\nin the smallest scale","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1958.65,1966.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of trying to awake\nthe intuitive insight","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1966.88,1973.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opposed to strategy\nlaying your trips on others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1973.49,1978.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: I can see how that's\nknowing your own position\nin where you're at,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1984.31,1987.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but at the same time,\nit looks like it's sort of\nan ambitious attitude,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1987.95,1992.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because it's like looking for\na change of something else\nat the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=1992.8,1999.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems we need\nthat particular kind of ambition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2002.95,2009.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in related with the progress\nof delightful situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2009.63,2015.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of present situation\nas they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2015.02,2018.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We need that kind of ambition,\nwhich is extremely necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2018.34,2025.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So ambition is fundamentally\nnot condemned,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2025.46,2029.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it is depend\non the style of the ambition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2029.01,2033.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Style of the ambition.\nHow you execute your ambition,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2033.3,2040.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether it is ambition\nof ambition,\nwhether it is simple ambition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2040.12,2047.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, we could say\nthat our meeting here together,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2049.8,2052.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"altogether,\nis very ambitious step.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2052.33,2057.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Proclaiming that\nwe have something to say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2057.22,2060.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have something\nlearn together,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2060.13,2062.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and our community setup as whole\nis extremely based on ambition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2062.44,2068.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, at the same time,\nit is whether based on ambition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2068.11,2072.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of trying to exclude\nother space","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2072.04,2081.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or trying to experience\nthe creative process","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2081.6,2086.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which exist within\nour ambition itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2086.93,2091.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: How is it possible\nto understand","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2096.01,2097.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what one's own situation\nin relation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2097.95,2101.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to karma and suffering?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2101.92,2108.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean,\nthat happens isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2108.91,2112.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have suffering already.\nYou experience suffering\nautomatically as what you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2112.24,2118.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the karma situation\nhappened that way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2118.87,2121.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doesn't have to be need\nany explanation\nof any kind at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2121.62,2128.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: I didn't understand\n[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2128.31,2131.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well,\nyou don't need\nput karmic situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2131.36,2135.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of suffering or otherwise,\nwhatever's may be,\nput into categories any kind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2135.54,2143.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because you are what you are.\nYou are right in there,\nyou're right there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2143.1,2150.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When you suffer, that situation\nor the characteristics of suffer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2150.7,2156.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has the qualities of trying\nto slow you down or else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2156.57,2160.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to push you\nbeyond a cliff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2160.18,2167.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That means that you have\nto go much faster\nthan you be doing so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2167.61,2176.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: But doesn't ambition\nimply--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2176.4,2180.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise\nyour hand?\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2180.42,2185.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: What--\ndoesn't ambition\nimply lack of something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2185.4,2189.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not complete.\nAmbition isn't complete.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2189.81,2192.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you're--\nif you have ambition,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2192.47,2196.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how could you attain\nsomething complete?\nIn a complete state?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2196.82,2201.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends\non whether ambition is begun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2201.41,2205.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether ambition is based\non this characteristics","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2205.29,2209.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of stepping out\nof ambition,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2209.04,2213.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can have that ambition\nof generous","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2213.88,2219.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"non-ego mentality\nof the ambition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2219.53,2226.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, if the ambition is based\non purely building up\non centralizing notion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2226.97,2232.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that that seem to be defeat\nits purpose altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2232.12,2240.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: Isn't ambition\nthat is within people is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2240.37,2245.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"especially in the West,\nis just striving toward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2245.39,2248.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2248.54,2249.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean-- you see,\nthat's the whole point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2249.92,2252.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't really want\nto make generalization\nof anything at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2252.69,2258.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It had to be related\nwith individual merit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2258.27,2262.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Westerners are not\nparticularly stupid as much\nas the Easterners at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2262.44,2271.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we should not be ashamed\nof our Western situation at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2271.08,2281.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Spiritual search is not based\non trying to become Easterner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2281.12,2286.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is impossible.\nIf you trying to become--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2286.3,2289.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to change\nthe course of sun,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2289.94,2294.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you're trying to create\nthe sun could rise in the West\nand could set in the East,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2294.31,2301.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it wouldn't work,\nit wouldn't happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2301.43,2306.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Rinpoche,\nwhen you're understanding karma,\nlet say you[INAUDIBLE]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2306.45,2311.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you raise\nyour hand?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2311.65,2312.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE].\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2312.94,2318.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: When you're\nunderstanding karma","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2318.65,2320.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you get a certain life,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2320.09,2321.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the things in your life\nthat you feel you're going\nto karmically suffer for,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2321.51,2326.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when the suffering\nstarts coming,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2326.9,2328.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does it make any difference\nwhether you know where it's\ncoming from, which situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2328.43,2334.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't hear.\nSPEAKER5: In the understanding\nof it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2334.71,2338.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Can you say it\nlouder, so everyone can hear?\n[INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2338.8,2341.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: When you\ndo things karmically,\ndo they--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2341.88,2345.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when you do things in your life\nwhich you feel will\nkarmically bring suffering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2345.1,2351.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does it matter, when you start\nsuffering, which situation\nit's coming from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2351.29,2358.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is it just a general\nunderstanding of suffering,\nyou know, that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2358.42,2361.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems\nthat you don't\nhave to analyze yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2361.46,2366.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem that to be one\nof the problems that relate\nwith Western psychology,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2366.63,2371.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"psychological school\nof thought altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2371.59,2373.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you have--\nyou are suffering\nemotional problems today,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2373.94,2380.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because you had a bad\nemotional relationship\nwith your parents in the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2380.38,2385.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow that particular\nsituation doesn't apply anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2385.16,2389.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because you're suffering\n*today*,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2389.39,2392.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the problem what you are at\nis you are suffering today,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2392.3,2396.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore, you need\nsome antidotes and\nsomething to relate with today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2396.48,2400.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Doesn't matter what happened\nin your past,\nthat's not a concern.\n[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2400.38,2406.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: But isn't it a concern\nwith whether you can see\nand understand the suffering?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2406.76,2413.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In order to\nunderstand suffering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2413.05,2414.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can't understand suffering\nfrom undoing the past\nor trying to analyze yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2414.4,2420.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because then you're\nin the realm of concept,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2420.63,2424.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is unreal in itself.\nIt's a show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2424.43,2429.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you wanted to realize\nor understand the problem\nof what it is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2429.89,2435.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can only relate\nwith the present problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2435.8,2440.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be\none of the basic point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2440.71,2445.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Do we create\nkarma for others?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2448.76,2452.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seemingly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2456.14,2458.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Do others create\nfor us then too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2458.33,2459.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2459.72,2460.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Do others\ncreate it for us then too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2460.92,2462.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seemingly.\nBut they can't create\nkarmic situations for you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2462.92,2468.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you're not there.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2468.12,2472.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you can't create\nothers' karmic situations\nif you're not there either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2472.73,2478.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER7: Can we learn\nfrom the suffering,\nor how do we deal with it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2480.36,2485.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just learn\nfrom it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2485.24,2489.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's very simple,\nas Buddha said.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2489.01,2502.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER8: Rinpoche,\nin relation\nto Western psychology,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2502.75,2507.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you were talking about what--\nthe thing that came to mind\nthat didn't seem to click","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2507.91,2511.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was something\nlike Primal Therapy,\nwhich I don't know much about,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2511.13,2514.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but perhaps you know\na little about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2514.36,2516.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from the little\nI know about it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2516.64,2518.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it doesn't really seem\nto be a conceptual trip,\nbut it seems to be experiential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2518.55,2522.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it seems to be direct.\nAnd it almost seems to be\nin the present","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2522.99,2528.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even though it's dealing\nwith the past situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2528.41,2532.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could\nsay Buddha\ntook Primal Therapy course","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2536.18,2544.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by trying to understand\nthe root of the pain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2546.97,2551.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time,\nthis particular Primal Therapy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2557.0,2560.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we are talking about\nis purely based","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2560.62,2565.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on what you were\nis what you going to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2565.93,2575.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you are trying to create,\ntrying to take advantage\nof the time situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2575.6,2582.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of what you were is valid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2582.11,2589.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time,\nyou can't deny what you are not\nwith this present situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2589.02,2595.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same time,\ntherefore,\nwhat you were compare that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2595.95,2599.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to what you would be\nin the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2599.21,2601.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it seems that you completely\nbypass what you are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2601.39,2607.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you see,\nin the present situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2607.22,2610.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's dwelling on the past\nand the future","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2610.12,2613.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without seeing the present\nsituation, which is--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2613.18,2616.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: I don't tend to agree,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2616.5,2617.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because while you're\nexperiencing this thing\nwhich is supposedly in the past,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2617.99,2623.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you're in your imagination\nor on whatever level\nyou experience it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2623.25,2627.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it happens to be the present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2627.19,2629.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there's\nalways game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2629.04,2630.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You want it to be something else\nthan when you're present.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2630.96,2634.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Each time when you have\npresent experience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2634.34,2636.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you regard that as something\nthat you might pass through,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2636.62,2643.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather than what\nyou really are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2643.43,2645.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's rejection\nof the present on the concept\nof what you would like to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2645.77,2653.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, that's whole idea\nthat involve with,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2653.25,2655.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm afraid,\nin the Western psychology,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2655.35,2658.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is always like that\nin that process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2658.13,2661.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That what you are\nis not important really,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2661.17,2666.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the sense that they don't\nfind out the famous psychologist\nor psychotherapist,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2666.84,2673.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever you like to call it.\nWhat you are\nis not really important,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2673.18,2678.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because we cannot prove\nwhat you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2678.7,2682.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Therefore, in order to prove\nwhat you are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2682.11,2684.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have to go back on what you\nwere by certain process,\nanalytical process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2684.89,2693.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, according to\nwith what you were,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2693.09,2696.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we could promise a healthy\nand sane development","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2696.49,2705.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in what you will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2705.69,2708.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we completely bypass\nthat particular area\nof what you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2708.97,2714.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when you come\nto person to say that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2714.02,2716.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I'm fucked up person.\nI need help,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2716.13,2720.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that in itself makes\ntremendous great impression","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2720.69,2723.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on psychologists\nand psychotherapists","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2723.55,2726.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that what you are\nis embarrassing situation.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2726.8,2730.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you are in\nembarrassing situation. You--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2730.31,2733.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and both the physicians\nand patients agree","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2733.8,2739.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that what you are\nis terrible situation.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2739.33,2742.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"We would like\nto ignore that, altogether,\nand let's work something out\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2742.84,2749.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on what you will be or\nwhat you were.\"\n[laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2749.08,2756.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2756.38,2759.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\nAUDIENCE: Let's make a side\ndeal.\n[Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2759.26,2765.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Many Westerners are--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2765.95,2768.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seem to lay some kind\nof a moralistic trip","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2768.07,2771.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the karma concept.\nYou talked yesterday about,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2771.95,2775.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if one is going\nto kill one's wife,\nhow would one go about it?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2775.77,2783.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you say all of a sudden,\n\"Arsenic will do it.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2783.68,2788.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you go ahead and do it.\nAnd then you start this cause\nand effect roll.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2788.43,2794.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But maybe it was\na very good thing\nto do away with the old bitch\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2794.58,2801.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE]\ncreate bad karma for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2801.16,2804.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INAUDIBLE]\nyou could be rewarded for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2804.45,2810.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What's the\nquestion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2812.86,2815.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is the question,\ncan you tell me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2818.1,2821.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Does the act\nof what seems\nto a normal man,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2821.02,2829.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"let's say a very hostile act,\nper se, create bad karma\nfor that person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2829.18,2837.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is judgment on the act\nalso withheld\nby a higher intelligence,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2837.86,2846.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which will say,\n\"This action was perhaps\ncreative, constructive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2846.89,2855.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so when we say\nthat such and such is a--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2855.97,2859.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"creates bad karma,\ncan we really assume\nthat it does?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2859.69,2866.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2866.49,2874.56"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER10: Would that be\nmoral laws, which man\nhas evolved over the years,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2874.56,2881.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not killing, loving,\nand so forth, hold through\nin the absolute sense?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2881.19,2889.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that again\nis depends\non that implication behind it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2889.84,2896.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether that implication\nbehind the moral law","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2896.97,2901.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is depended on what\nyou trying to achieve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2901.27,2907.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That person could be\nextremely loving and kind\nto his millionaire friend,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2909.39,2917.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but product is that he want\nto get more money\nfrom his millionaire friend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2917.5,2923.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's why he's being kind\nand cordial to that person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2923.97,2930.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's the implication\nseem to be more important\nthan what really he does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2933.05,2938.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or on the other hand,\na person decide to be\nextremely rude and aggressive","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2938.07,2942.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to his millionaire friend,\nwhich could be said is\nextremely dangerous thing to do,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2942.74,2948.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because he would lose\nhis millions of money\nby being rude to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2948.76,2956.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you don't get\nwhat you want to do--\nwhat you want to get out of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2956.24,2962.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: To address to\nthe previous\nquestioner's question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2962.02,2968.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I still have a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2968.36,2970.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about mercy killings\nin the context\nof the previous question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2970.88,2973.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mercy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2973.99,2975.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Killings.\nIn a hospital sometimes the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2975.22,2977.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a doctor may be tempted\nto put a patient\nwho is going to die anyway,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2977.74,2982.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who's in very great pain,\nout of his misery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2982.68,2985.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This would be classed\nas murder by our laws,\nand yet may be a kind act.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2985.6,2990.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I quite\nagree, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2990.48,2992.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: And this would--\nsay if anybody\nis poisoning his wife","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2992.87,2995.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because this was really\na mercy killing,\nI mean, how--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2995.09,2998.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\nYeah, there's the story\nin the Buddha's life as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=2998.03,3003.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of Jataka stories\nof Buddha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3003.17,3006.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That he was once born\nas a warrior","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3006.26,3013.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and compassionate\nbodhisattva warrior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3013.8,3017.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That he realized that there were\n500 caravan of people traveling","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3017.51,3027.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he knew that\nthis particular bandit","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3027.65,3030.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who was awaiting for them\nand the bandit is going\nto kill all of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3030.4,3037.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So he decide to kill\nthis particular bandit","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3037.02,3040.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in order to save 500 lives.\nThat kind of situation\ncould happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3040.81,3047.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, of course, it seemed this\nis extremely dangerous thing\nto talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3047.59,3052.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could always justify\nfrom that point of view","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3052.74,3056.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"without having spiritual\nbasis of anything,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3056.58,3059.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how they should relate\nwith their own karma\nand their own ego as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3059.28,3065.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: Rinpoche, I'd just\nwould like to add one little\n[INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3066.39,3070.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the end of that,\nwhich is to say something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3070.24,3073.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I always thought\nthat if a person\ncommitted any sort of crime","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3073.33,3078.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was their own-- their--\nthe way they saw it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3078.45,3082.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like if a person hurt\nand they didn't--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3082.11,3085.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or they killed somebody\nand there was no--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3085.71,3090.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"within them there was no--\nI don't know how to say it.\nThere was no reaction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3090.97,3096.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There's no what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3096.31,3097.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: There was no reaction\nto the fact\nthey just committed an act","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3097.65,3100.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it was neither good\nnor bad within their own--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3100.08,3103.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their own mind?\nThen [INAUDIBLE]\nno karma created from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3103.85,3108.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In which case?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3108.91,3110.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER11: In any situation.\nLike mercy killing,\nif a person kills","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3110.7,3113.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and really feels\nthat he did the right thing,\nthen there's no bad karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3113.93,3118.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well,\nit's not question\nof he did the right thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3118.36,3121.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He thought he do right thing,\nbut whether he is or actually\ndoing the right thing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3121.33,3126.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is quite\ndifferent matter altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3126.63,3131.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If person really convinced\nin terms of enlightened\nattitude,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3131.8,3136.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then of course, that whatever\nis need to be destroyed\nwill be destroyed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3136.88,3141.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever is need to be helped\nhad to be helped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3141.13,3148.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sort of situation happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3148.24,3152.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3152.34,3153.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Rinpoche,\ndo you feel that you\nhave to suffer to learn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3153.82,3159.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do feel--\ndo I feel what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3159.25,3161.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: That you have\nto suffer to learn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3161.37,3165.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is suffering a prerequisite\nto learning, or [INAUDIBLE]\n--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3165.52,3169.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean,\nthat's old story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3169.54,3175.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's had already\nbeen understood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3175.04,3180.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hundreds of millions\nof people suffered,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3180.73,3184.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore,\nthey've learned from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3184.14,3186.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's one of the very basic\nfundamental process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3186.48,3190.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3190.83,3193.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: But isn't suffering\nessentially something\n[INAUDIBLE]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3193.61,3206.773"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems to me\nthat after a person\nhas suffered psychologically,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3206.773,3211.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he ultimately comes back\nto what he knew\nin the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3211.63,3214.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He becomes what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3214.89,3216.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: He comes back\nto a realization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3216.21,3220.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Though when a person\nsuffers psychologically,\nit's because, I feel,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3220.01,3224.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he would not accept\nsomething he basically knew\nbefore his suffering started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3224.18,3232.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So isn't that suffering\na kind of a--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3232.09,3235.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well,\nsuffering process altogether\nis extremely simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3235.29,3239.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That if you fail to relate\nwith your earthy situation\nof your body","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3239.95,3246.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or your psychological state\nof the mind-body,\nthen you suffer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3246.93,3252.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is a way\nof bringing you down","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3252.77,3254.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the matter-of-fact world,\nearthy situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3254.78,3262.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, we could say that\nif you're dreaming intensely,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3262.4,3269.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you suffer heavily.\nBecause you been dreaming,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3269.26,3273.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because you neglect\nyour physical\nmind-body situation altogether,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3273.85,3279.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you been thrown back to it.\nSeem to be quite simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3279.44,3287.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER13: Rinpoche, what is it\nthat sets North America apart","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3287.73,3291.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the rest\nof Western culture,\nsay Europe, South America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3291.89,3297.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems\nthat, I mean,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3297.31,3301.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whole process of North America\nis extremely involved","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3301.89,3312.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the materialist\ngain altogether,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3312.67,3317.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and extremely sophisticated\nfrom that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3317.76,3321.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there's greater\ndeal of population","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3321.97,3324.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are reacting against of this\nmaterialistic gain and pleasure.\nAnd because of that intensity,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3324.96,3333.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore,\nthere's more understanding\nor wisdom is involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3333.5,3339.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I remember my guru\nJamgon Kongtrul\nwas talking to me about--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3339.64,3347.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we were discussing that\nwhat is possible place","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3347.1,3350.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we could relate\nwith the teachings\nin the outer world,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3350.95,3354.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"supposing if we have\nto leave Tibet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3354.96,3358.27"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he actually said\nthat America is the only hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3358.27,3364.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at that point,\nI interpreted his remark\nwas purely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3364.8,3370.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because Americans are fighting\nagainst the Communist China\n[laughter],","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3370.23,3375.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"therefore it was Americans\nare the only hope!\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3375.52,3379.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I mean it was--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3379.72,3381.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so it was about\neight years double take\n[laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3381.97,3393.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I realized\nthat he didn't mean\npolitically alone at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3393.91,3399.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was hope, yeah, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3399.02,3402.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Rinpoche,\ndo you think that the drug scene\nin this country has any--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3402.28,3406.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has had any--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3406.26,3407.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3407.54,3408.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Do you think\nthat the drug scene\nin this country","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3408.74,3411.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has had any unique\naffect upon the karma?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3411.09,3413.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is it--\nor has it just been\npart of the overall process?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3413.96,3418.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely so.\nI mean, you can't ignore that\nparticular historical events.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3418.52,3426.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it's obviously\nhad something to do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3426.22,3429.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with landmark\nof America, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3429.64,3432.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I mean, one can't say\nthat is *the* ultimate promises\nfor that matter,\non the other hand at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3432.91,3440.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's one of the process\nthat we have to relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3440.96,3446.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: Rinpoche, in talking\nabout American karma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3457.45,3464.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know it's really nice\nto hear somebody say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3464.39,3467.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that there's hope.\nBecause lately--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3467.33,3470.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, I've been\nreally pessimistic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3470.79,3472.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and looking for a way in which\nI can improve my lifestyle,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3472.83,3477.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and affect what is happening\nin America in the world today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3477.64,3482.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I just don't know\nhow to do it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3482.59,3484.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I've been\nso pessimistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3484.15,3487.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I hear them--\nthey're exploding bombs,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3487.01,3489.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it just seems they're\ngetting heavier and heavier\ninto very negative actions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3489.58,3497.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I just wondering\nif you can elaborate on...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3497.78,3502.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3502.15,3503.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER15: If you can elaborate\non that hope that you feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3503.36,3508.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, like where,\nin which way\ncan something good happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3508.37,3514.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem\nthat there is--\nI wouldn't say that America--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3514.98,3519.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all American nation is going\nto become Buddhists or Hindus,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3519.23,3523.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or everybody simultaneously\ngoing to meditate\nnationwide radio program.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3523.85,3532.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the implication\nof the philosophy of meditation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3532.62,3538.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and philosophy of practice\nof relate with the mind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3538.92,3544.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is extremely powerful\nand important,\nit seems to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3544.69,3549.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That constantly next generations\nbecoming more sophisticated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3549.78,3560.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they're able\nto hear the dharma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3560.3,3564.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and able to relate with the\nopen-minded situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3564.58,3568.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That I mean,\nwe could all relate with--\nthat your parents for instance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3568.55,3574.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A lot of parents\nare sort of turn on to it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3574.36,3578.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because their children\nare into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3578.02,3580.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at the same time,\nthey can't quite make it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3580.14,3584.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they appear\nopen-minded to it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3584.49,3586.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and their children are into it\nmuch more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3586.9,3591.12"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And because of their children\nare more into it\nand they somehow--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3591.12,3596.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some way or other had already\ndeveloped their mental faculty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3596.62,3600.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to understand it intellectually\nor intelligently\nfor that matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3600.98,3606.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To understand the subtleties\nof it beyond cultural barrier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3606.99,3612.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of whether this message\ncame from the East","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3612.01,3614.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or the West\ndoesn't matter at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3614.76,3618.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this process develops\ngreater and greater\nin this situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3618.98,3624.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you can imagine\nthat your own children\nwould develop greater","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3624.85,3629.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than you are,\nas your parents will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3629.1,3634.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's one of the very\ninteresting point","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3634.58,3636.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that one of the prince of\nJapan decide to become Jewish.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3636.65,3648.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That he found tremendous wisdom\nand tremendous message\nthat involve with Judaism","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3648.62,3655.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he decide to become Jewish.\nAnd apparently the Israelis are\nvery proud of that whole factor,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3655.65,3662.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but nevertheless, however.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3662.82,3667.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's perfect example\nthat everybody feels\nsome sacredness","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3667.21,3671.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involved with their culture,\nwhich they seem to be\nforeign to the others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3671.46,3675.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the other hand,\nthe cultural base\nbegin to break through","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3675.73,3678.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the fundamental qualities\nbegin to become more prominent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3678.71,3682.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more obvious, in the sense\nthere is a great deal\nof tremendous possibilities","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3682.37,3687.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of that our future society\nis going to be\nmore sophisticated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3687.83,3692.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"intelligent, and educated,\nand powerful at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3692.8,3699.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because, at the same time,\nthey know how\nto handle situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3699.04,3703.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it's quite obvious\nin a sense, extremely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3703.72,3708.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Needless to say\nin some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3708.58,3712.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER16: Rinpoche,\nit has been theorized\nby Western psychologists","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3712.91,3717.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that when we go\ninto a situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3717.36,3722.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we suffer some sort of pain\nfrom that situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3722.21,3725.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that it puts in a block\nin our system,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3725.62,3728.8"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that present situations\njust relive--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3728.8,3732.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just make us relive\nthose past situations.\nAnd I was wondering how you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3732.19,3738.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether you saw that\nto be the case,\nor whether that--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3738.45,3741.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"indeed that we just change\nfrom situation to situation.\nAnd that what we learned,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3741.0,3746.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we don't really actually\nrelive that pain,\nit's something new again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3746.7,3750.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean,\nthat's quite obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3750.82,3752.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In a logical situation,\nanybody knows,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3752.83,3757.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if anybody is intelligent enough\nto experience the law of logic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3757.25,3764.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you can't undo\nthe past at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3764.77,3769.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What you think you are\nlearning from the past\nyou're reliving the past,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3769.06,3773.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is you're living--\nreliving the present,\nconstantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3773.49,3780.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, we could say\nthat our seminar we held here\nthis time in last year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3780.42,3786.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is not repetitive seminar\nthat we hold in this year,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3786.53,3790.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at all. It's another seminar\nthat we holding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3790.08,3793.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe have the same patterns,\nsame qualities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3793.94,3797.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and same gatherings happening,\nbut we are not reliving it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3797.14,3800.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we are living\npossible memories of the past","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3800.82,3805.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but nothing to do\nwith the past at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3805.26,3807.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's present situation,\nso it seems that basically\nthe Western psychologist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3807.71,3816.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"extremely are turned on\nto the trying\nto prove something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3816.1,3823.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to use the original\nscientific analytical way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3823.73,3831.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of proving something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3831.66,3834.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And more you involve\nwith the trying to prove","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3834.91,3837.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something that much you indebted\nin the concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3837.32,3842.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You fail to see\nthe present situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3842.82,3846.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, in a sense,\nI feel personally myself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3850.61,3853.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the various psychological\ntraditions that developed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3853.64,3860.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"particularly related\nwith patients\nfrom their psychiatrist,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3860.65,3865.63"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are extremely primitive\nin a sense, simple-minded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3865.63,3872.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: Rinpoche,\nis there dharma\nwithout consciousness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3875.82,3880.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3882.92,3884.9"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what mean \"wisdom,\"\n\"jnana\" is traditionally\ndescribed as being wise,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3884.9,3894.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather than being conscious\nof the wisdom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3894.99,3899.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: Is there dharma\nwith no men, no--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3899.36,3901.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3901.65,3903.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER17: No human intelligence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3903.02,3905.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that point,\ncease to become\nhuman or animals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3905.89,3912.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is ultimate\nunderstanding of dharma","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3912.37,3914.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that you are going back\nto its root,\nits source, in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3914.89,3921.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That you transcend\nthe ape instinct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3921.6,3926.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3934.19,3935.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: Regard to\na previous question,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3935.42,3939.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how does one know\nthat if he's acting\ncorrectly in a situation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3939.32,3944.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or if he just thinks\nhe's acting correctly\nin a situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3944.79,3950.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For example,\nwell in the merciful murderer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3950.06,3956.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, he could think\nthat he's acting correctly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3956.16,3958.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when actually he isn't,\nyou know.\nHow does one, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3958.55,3962.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"determine whether\nhe's doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3962.15,3965.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems\nto be based on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3965.59,3967.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you're watching yourself\ntrying to be perfect,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3967.78,3971.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then you're deluding yourself.\nWhereas if you're not\nwatching yourself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3971.73,3976.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and relate with the pure\nsituation as they are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3976.61,3978.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then that is in itself\nexpression of compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3978.96,3983.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And compassion is rightly\nin tuned with situation\nas they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3983.84,3989.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18: What if you're\nwatching yourself\nbe deluded all the time?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3993.66,3997.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that sounds\nvery good,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3997.75,3999.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because then you realize\nthat you be deluding yourself.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=3999.18,4006.918"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER19: But you enjoy\nthat state","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4009.14,4011.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and will not make\nany corrections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4011.28,4014.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that means\nthat you are trying\nto indulge yourself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4014.17,4017.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which means automatically\nwatching yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4017.26,4022.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER19: But the change\nin behavior takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4022.99,4025.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't get\npleasure,\nsuperficial pleasure at all,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4025.3,4033.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you're searching for pleasure\nas such as enter--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4033.39,4038.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or entertaining yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4038.35,4041.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That means when you relate\nwith external situation purely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4041.13,4046.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Once you become one with bliss,\none with joy,\nwhatever's like to call it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4046.34,4051.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then you don't indulge\nin it anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4051.82,4056.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER20: It seems to--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4062.89,4067.65"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it seems to me that\nthe psychological scars","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4067.65,4075.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you may have\nfrom the past or like\nare like scars on your body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4075.37,4084.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like it's the scars, not--\nthe scar's not\nthe same thing that the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4084.81,4089.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as the knife that\nstabbed you, years ago,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4089.72,4094.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but the scar is there now\nand maybe it hurts\nwhen it rains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4094.19,4102.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What do you think of that?\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4102.42,4106.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds\nvery good, because knife\nis already gone away","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4106.26,4112.582"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that past situation\nis related","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4114.0,4117.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the present situation\nautomatically with the scar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4117.92,4123.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That there's no point\nin blaming the knife,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4125.21,4133.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but relate with your scar,\nas present situation\nwhich had related with the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4133.45,4142.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: If the witness\nis eliminated altogether,\nis it--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4144.86,4148.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are there no mistakes\n[INAUDIBLE]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4148.43,4152.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4152.92,4154.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21:\nThere can be mistakes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4154.13,4156.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, there's\nno mistake at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4156.48,4158.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because you have no idea\nof mistakes to that matter,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4158.92,4164.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so that when ideas of mistake's\nbeing transcended,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4164.6,4167.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so then you are what you\nare, fully and completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4167.95,4172.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: Mistake's just\na concept, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4172.83,4175.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\nNot on the things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4175.43,4178.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what I mean,\nnonduality is not removing idea","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4178.37,4183.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of \"that\" and \"this\"\nand trying to become one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4183.04,4185.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but you just try to pull out\nthe barrier\nbetween \"that\" and \"this.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4185.32,4189.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER21: What about\nthe next day\nwhen the witness comes back,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4189.71,4193.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it seems like\nit was a mistake?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4193.7,4195.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then you go\non and on\nand relate with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4195.46,4198.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's your unique chance\nto discover\nthe nonduality each time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4198.77,4206.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: Rinpoche,\nis it possible for someone\nto do something a lot,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4208.97,4212.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like smoke a cigarette,\nget into smoking cigarettes,\nand it not become an indulgence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4212.41,4218.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say\nthat again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4218.7,4220.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: Is it possible\nfor someone to do--\nto get into the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4220.03,4224.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"possible the habit\nor the repetition\nof doing something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4224.18,4226.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like possibly smoking\na cigarette a lot,\nand it not becoming indulgent?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4226.99,4232.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well,\nit's depends on what you regard\nrepetition is hangup or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4232.01,4238.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: Well, just indulgence--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4238.14,4240.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If that\nrepetition becomes repetition\nto your psychological hangup,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4240.16,4244.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then it is really hangup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4244.62,4246.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you regard\nas not hangup anymore,\nthen cease to become repetition.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4246.03,4257.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: When I\nsmoke cigarettes, sometimes\nI actually have a desire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4257.84,4261.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like after a meal\nthere's a desire\nfor smoking a cigarette,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4261.79,4266.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then it gets a little\nheavier and heavier\nand it builds up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4266.05,4268.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes I like to smoke\na lot of cigarettes.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4268.92,4272.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, I'm not hung up about it\nbut it really\n[laughter] [INAUDIBLE] .","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4272.88,4279.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah,\nparticularly\nit becomes heavy and heavy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4279.67,4282.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if you wanted to give it up,\nand you feel very heavy\nthat you--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4282.37,4286.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this is something that\nyou shouldn't be doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4286.74,4289.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You been naughty.\n[laughter] And--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4289.2,4292.493"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER22: I give into\nthose vibrations\nbut I do get a feeling,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4292.493,4295.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a draw, of smoking once\nin a while I feel\nor I identify as indulgence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4295.22,4301.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just the actual experience,\nthe actual feeling\nof indulgence--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4301.7,4305.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it sounds\nlike that the whole process","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4305.96,4307.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of watching yourself\nof watching yourself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4307.92,4311.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"watching yourself, therefore,\nthat process of repetition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4311.59,4316.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of watching yourself\nautomatically creates\ngreater intensity of repetition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4316.02,4322.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of that particular process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4322.05,4325.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER23: Rinpoche,\nif the witness\nwas totally eliminated","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4330.02,4333.72"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then there\nwould be no creating,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4333.72,4337.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would the mind still\nhave karma to work with\nfrom maybe the past,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4340.08,4344.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from before whenever\nthere was a witness,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4344.85,4347.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or from others when they're\ninvolved in certain situations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4347.35,4351.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so,\nbecause karma\ndoesn't extend to the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4351.61,4356.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karma can only extend\nto the present situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4356.71,4361.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if the present\nsituation of possibilities","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4361.04,4363.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of sowing seed of karmic debts,\nthen if you relate\nwith the present situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4363.94,4372.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you're not sowing seed\nof karma anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4372.81,4377.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER23: What about when\nI've read\nthe words \"ripening karma\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4377.86,4381.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from past lives?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4381.68,4383.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they can\nonly function","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4383.73,4385.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the present situation\nof some chance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4385.29,4390.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's sort of waiting\nto be put into execution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4390.61,4397.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if there no situation\nto be put into execution,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4397.61,4401.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then there's\nno karmic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4401.02,4404.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's precisely\nwhy practice of meditation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4404.88,4407.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is relief from karmic\nrepetitive repetitions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4407.61,4413.7"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: I've understood\nthat desire is the cause\nof our being hung up and like,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4418.15,4428.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if we can eliminate desire,\ntotally,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4428.18,4431.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then we'll be free\nand liberated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4431.36,4436.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now in reference\nto smoking cigarettes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4436.83,4441.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would it be correct to say\nthat if you can smoke cigarettes\nwithout desiring them,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4441.38,4447.61"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then you're free\nof being hung up\non cigarettes or anything else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4447.61,4453.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you desire a cigarette\nand don't get it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4453.71,4456.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well then that seems\nto bring you down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4456.85,4459.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seems that you're not\nfree of the cigarette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4459.3,4463.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know\nwhat the question was.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4463.67,4467.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems\nthat the desire\nin itself is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4467.39,4478.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and watching of your desire\nat the same time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4478.85,4483.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"breeds further one\nof possible further desire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4483.2,4489.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It reinforces constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4489.68,4493.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, if there's no sense\nof watching yourself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4493.38,4497.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you have\nexperience of desire--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4497.47,4501.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Well, there\nmay not be--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4501.53,4502.89"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or,\nat the same time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4502.89,4504.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"imprisonment to this pain\nof the desire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4504.09,4507.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Well, I'm not talking\nabout witness right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4507.52,4509.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like if we do away with the idea\nof witnessing the act,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4509.95,4512.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but just we're aware\nthat we have a desire\nfor something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4512.4,4517.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and if the desire\nis for a cigarette,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4517.96,4520.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we don't get the cigarette,\nthis is going\nto cause suffering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4520.21,4524.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now if we had no desire\nfor the cigarette,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4524.0,4525.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one way or the other,\nwell it doesn't matter\nif we get a cigarette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4525.82,4528.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We can smoke it,\nor don't get the cigarette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4528.31,4531.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, it does not matter.\nWe seem to be\nfree of the cigarette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4531.02,4535.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/878","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this has nothing to do\nwith witnessing the act or not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4535.79,4540.59"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because the witness is,\nyou know, that's just a judgment\nthing if it's being happening\nfrom there--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4540.59,4545.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the\nwitness happens automatically\nat the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4545.84,4549.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that when there's\ndesire of clinging something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4549.99,4557.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you project yourself\nto the situation,\nlike having cigarette.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4557.28,4566.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that clinging\ntowards cigarette","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4566.55,4571.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is reflect back\non your basic grasping mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4571.07,4577.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the process of cigarette\nsmoking cigarettes is each time\nwhen you smoke more cigarettes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4577.95,4582.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you be more reinforced\nto get into further process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4582.67,4590.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whereas, if you feel that\nyou're not captivated\nby it at all,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4590.82,4594.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then smoking cigarettes\nbecomes a part of your makeup","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4594.82,4599.81"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or sort of process\nof habitual pattern,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4599.81,4603.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is not--\nthere's not big deal about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4603.45,4607.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: It seems to me\nwhat you're saying\nis on a very high level,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4607.75,4610.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that if you can smoke cigarettes\nwithout being attached\nto them that's all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4610.45,4615.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, if you are attached\nand if you desire them,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4615.92,4619.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then smoking them\nwill lead you deeper\nand deeper into the desire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4619.02,4624.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/895","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I don't--\nI think most of us\nare at a point","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4624.07,4625.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/896","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where like it's the desire\nhooks us in deeper and deeper","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4625.99,4631.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/897","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and by ingratiating ourselves\nto that desire","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4631.05,4633.62"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/898","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and by just going ahead\nand fulfilling\nwhatever desires we have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4633.62,4638.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/899","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We just give that desire\nmore power over us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4638.28,4642.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/900","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whereas, like a person\nwho is at the point\nwhere you are will let--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4642.98,4647.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/901","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seems to transcend the desire.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4647.54,4654.265"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/902","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't\nsay that's sort of sets\na tremendous segregation.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4656.82,4666.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/903","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Well, if it's a truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4666.1,4667.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/904","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems\nthat truth lies in the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4667.88,4671.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/905","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in transmuting the desire\nas you desire and relate\nwith that particular desire,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4671.76,4678.15"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather than if you are down,\nyou're down,\nif you're up, you are up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4678.15,4685.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Could you speak\na little further\nabout transmuting the desire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4685.95,4689.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/908","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, trying\nto use\nthat particular desire","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4689.84,4692.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/909","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is unique opportunity\nto relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4692.04,4698.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Well, how would that\nlead you beyond the desire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4698.13,4701.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you experience\ndesire as it is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4701.55,4703.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/912","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then desire in itself\ncontains wisdom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4703.54,4708.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/913","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is not really\nhard thing to do.\nExtremely simple in a way.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4708.34,4714.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/914","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you accept\nthe simplicity of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4714.08,4717.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/915","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER24: Isn't the wisdom\nof desire\nthat it leads to suffering?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4717.19,4721.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/916","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as joy,\nor transcends joy altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4721.24,4727.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/917","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER25: Rinpoche--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4734.19,4736.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/918","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER26: Somebody raised\na very concrete example","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4736.88,4739.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/919","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a little while back\nabout the knife and the scar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4739.4,4742.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/920","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the scar that hurt\nwhen it rained.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4742.71,4745.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/921","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The materialistic way\nof dealing with that\nseem to be somebody would say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4745.94,4751.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/922","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"All right,\nlet's move to a climate\nwhere it doesn't rain so much.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4751.08,4753.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/923","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you comment\non a different way\nof dealing with the same--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4753.87,4758.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/924","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the scar that hurts\nwhen it rains?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4758.23,4760.98"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/925","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a very concrete,\nyou see what I'm--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4760.98,4763.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/926","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an alternative way to the way\nthe average American would say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4763.17,4768.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/927","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"All right, let's move\nto a dry climate,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4768.1,4772.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/928","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to take action\nto nullify the pain,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4772.06,4774.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/929","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is there another attitude\ntowards the pain?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4774.57,4779.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/930","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Trying to\ndo what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4779.07,4780.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/931","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER26: Instead of trying\nto turn off the pain,\nthrough action,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4780.93,4784.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/932","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it would be typical\nmaterialistic American response,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4784.29,4788.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/933","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can you comment\non a different way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4788.09,4789.75"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/934","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of dealing with or coming\nto terms with the pain?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4789.75,4796.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/935","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seem\nto be that process is related\nwith the pain as they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4796.45,4803.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/936","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not regard the pain\nas altogether conceptualized\nhangup anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4803.49,4811.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/937","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as pain is concerned,\nit is not hangup\nin its own true nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4811.37,4818.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/938","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's why the concept\nof egolessness also could exist,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4818.19,4822.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/939","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because pain does not exist\nas it is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4822.45,4826.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/940","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but pain is based\non relative situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4826.37,4832.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/941","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that if one is able to relate\nwith pain is not being big deal","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4832.37,4837.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/942","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but pain is just an interesting\nspectrum as they are,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4837.68,4843.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/943","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so then one begin\nto appreciate the pain","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4843.37,4846.71"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/944","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a unique opportunity\nto relate with it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4846.71,4850.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/945","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and one is able to relate\nvery fully and properly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4850.41,4855.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/946","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER27: Where does the whole\nprocess of watching yourself\nwatching yourself end?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4864.05,4872.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/947","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: End, did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4872.53,4875.34"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/948","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER27: Yeah.\nI mean, it seems like it\ncan go on almost forever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4875.34,4879.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/949","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's\nvery interesting point that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4879.77,4884.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/950","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you watch yourself\nthat you watching yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4886.81,4891.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/951","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Introduced by certain\nparticular desire\nto achieve something,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4903.47,4912.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/952","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but when you begin realize\nthat when you begin to relate\nwith who's watching,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4916.2,4923.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/953","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rather than act of watching,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4923.47,4927.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/954","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is another twist\nto the watching yourself.\nBecause when you watch yourself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4927.86,4933.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/955","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you automatically presume that\nyou really can watch yourself\ncompletely hundred percent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4933.92,4940.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/956","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you just have\nthis blind faith","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4940.05,4942.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/957","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"watching yourself is the only\nanswer to secure yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4942.11,4946.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/958","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So at the same time,\nnobody has thought\nof who's the watcher","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4946.37,4951.06"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/959","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and how that particular watcher\ncould be accurate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4951.06,4955.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/960","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one begin to realize\nthere's doubt of the watcher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4955.17,4959.01"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/961","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then also the watching yourself\nbegin to break through,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4959.01,4961.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/962","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that particular mechanism\nbegin to break through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4961.79,4965.24"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/963","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's no watcher\ninvolved at all,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4965.24,4967.31"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/964","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so it's a question\nof giving up hope","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4967.31,4971.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/965","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"altogether from that\npoint of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4971.07,4975.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/966","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER27: You mean giving up\nhope that the watching\nis going to be accurate--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4975.46,4978.96"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/967","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hope of\nachievement,\nof coming to some conclusions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4978.96,4985.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/968","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of knowledge\nis separate from you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4985.11,4991.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/969","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: Well, if\nthe watcher is \"not,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4991.32,4995.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/970","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then the \"not there watcher\"\nis also not subject to a karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=4995.84,5003.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/971","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Does that follow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5003.1,5004.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/972","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5004.38,5006.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/973","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because then you begin\nto puncture the port","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5006.09,5013.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/974","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where the karmic liquid\ncould exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5013.52,5017.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/975","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you realize the watcher\nis not valid,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5017.95,5022.09"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/976","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then port begin\nto turn into sieve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5022.09,5028.82"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the karmic contents\ncan't hold into,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5028.82,5031.53"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it because there's nothing\nto hold on to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5031.53,5037.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/979","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: So the exercise\nof this realization","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5037.99,5041.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is just not\nthe holding onto anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5041.23,5045.36"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what\nmeditation is all about.\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5045.36,5050.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: Then why do you need\nthe concept of karma?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5050.0,5053.07"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/983","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do you what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5053.07,5054.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: You need\nthe concept of karma?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5054.37,5058.19"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Concept of karma\nis to realize how the confusion\nis function of itself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5058.19,5063.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before you get into that point.\nIf you are introduced to light,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5063.29,5072.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have to know what\nthe darkness is to begin with,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5072.23,5074.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/988","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before you understand\nabout the light.\nWhich is extremely necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5074.95,5082.08"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/989","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we\nshould adjourn.\n[laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5085.43,5091.015"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/990","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: I vote for seconds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5091.68,5093.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/991","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think maybe\nwe should ready tomorrow\nwith your patience.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5093.64,5099.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/992","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, everyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527#t=5099.3,5106.4"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/174110/file/313527/transcript/95060/annotation/993","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/095/060/original/19711119VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1783093618","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/095/060/original/19711119VCTR1-Captions-ForAudio.vtt?1783093618"}]}]}]}