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Meditation is not meditating \"on\" anything, but paying attention to every detail of one's experience while following the breath. Mindfulness also brings attention outside of the body and mind, which is awareness. Joined together, mindfulness and awareness create gentleness and sympathy, a sense of goodness and trust in oneself and the world. Sense of path develops, with idea of doing something for others. From there, vajrayana path dawns, as phenomenal world is no longer experienced as an obstacle. One develops ability to transform negative emotions into wisdom, described as egolessness.  Sense of being, \"is-ness\" or \"that-ness\" creates sense of delight.  Requires working with a teacher, and tremendous effort.  At end of talk, Trungpa Rinpoche clearly defines the experience of enlightenment."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Speaking of Silence","BOOK: Sanity We are Born With","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: SPEAKING OF SILENCE: Part Two: Comparing Ways, Chapter 7: Prayer and Meditation, Article: Natural Dharma\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BZX282\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: THE SANITY WE ARE BORN WITH: Chapter 5: \"Natural Dharma\"\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-sanity-we-are-born-with-1298.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 02: Selected Writings: Natural Dharma (pp 586-588)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 20 2021 to Aug 27 2021 Transcribing: Sophie Perks Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1982"]}}],"summary":{"en":["A powerful talk in which Trungpa Rinpoche presents the heart of the Buddhist three-yana approach in secular terms. \"Understanding our thoughts and actions\" as the starting point, through mindfulness in meditation and post-meditation. Meditation is not meditating \"on\" anything, but paying attention to every detail of one's experience while following the breath. Mindfulness also brings attention outside of the body and mind, which is awareness. Joined together, mindfulness and awareness create gentleness and sympathy, a sense of goodness and trust in oneself and the world. Sense of path develops, with idea of doing something for others. From there, vajrayana path dawns, as phenomenal world is no longer experienced as an obstacle. One develops ability to transform negative emotions into wisdom, described as egolessness.  Sense of being, \"is-ness\" or \"that-ness\" creates sense of delight.  Requires working with a teacher, and tremendous effort.  At end of talk, Trungpa Rinpoche clearly defines the experience of enlightenment."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/928/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666472752","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19820810VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":3733.13306,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/928/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666472752","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/168/928/original/19820810VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1666472695","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3733.13306,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19820810VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19820810VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Boulder - Christian-Buddhist Conference - The Tibetan Vajrayana Path - Natural Dharma]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute, Christian-Buddist Conference, talk entitled \"The Tibetan Vajrayana Path: Natural Dharma,\" recorded in Boulder, Colorado on August 10th, 1982. This is a CTI auto-remaster made March, 2021.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following will be the Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. This will be a talk given at the Naropa Institute Conference on Christian and Buddhist Meditation entitled, The Tibetan Vajrayana Path. August the 10th, 1982.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=0.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good afternoon. I think basically we have to understand our thoughts and actions and we have to use that as part of the practice situation. Otherwise there will be no spiritual path of any kind. There are various way of using that approach. And according to the Buddhist tradition, there are three types of practices. There is the preliminary practice, which is simply paying attention to one's mind and activities. And there are various facets of interesting state of mind that we have, and that mind is also the director to our daily activities. Sometimes they are good and wholesome ones, sometimes they are questionable ones. So the main point is to know ourselves, to begin with. Know our mind, know our behavior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=50.0,247.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The way to know our being is what is called practice of meditation. The word \"meditation\" is a interesting one. Often it is referred to meditating *on* something, in the ordinary sense. But in this case, we are not meditating *on* anything, but just state of meditation without contents. The main point is what is known as \"mindfulness.\" That mindfulness pays attention to every detail, every thought patterns, all discursive thoughts: aggression, passion, ignorance, and just insignificant mental chatter. Nonetheless that the practice is to become familiar with that particular state of mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=239.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, we think we know ourselves, but actually we don't. There are all sorts of undiscovered areas where we find ourselves quite astounding. And mindfulness is paying attention to one's breath, breathing in and out. And paying attention to way you extend to reach your cup, and watch yourself lifting and touching your lips and drinking water. So everything is quite detailed, and everything is precisely looked at. Which doesn't make self- consciousness particularly-- self conscious particularly, but it does make oneself quite sharp and real.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=351.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we begin to realize that mindfulness is begin to grow, we become more and more aware of *greater* things, outside environment, other than purely body and mind, alone. That's what we call \"awareness\", opposed to mindfulness. And some point that awareness and mindfulness are joined together, and become one open eye, one big precision. So one become at least not crude, in the ordinary sense, but one become somewhat refined, because you be watching your thoughts and actions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=465.0,564.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Out of that grows the number two, which is the state of gentleness. You are not just purely paying attention alone, but you are aware of your own pain and pleasure, and one begin to develop some sense of sympathy, friendship with oneself. And one will be able to also extend that to others: other's pain and pleasure are understood -- seen at least. So there is a tremendous sense of sympathy to others, begin to develop. And that sympathy also helps the mindfulness awareness process at the same time, because one basically become a gentle person. And one also begin to realize that oneself is good, totally good. There is a sense of trust in oneself, and to the world. Goodness in this case is also again, wholesomeness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=564.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we begin to find there is something to grip on. Then the path quality begin to emerge out of that, with the training of the mind, and a sense of goodness and sympathy, begin to bring a notion of journey. A notion of that you want to do something for others, and something for yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=725.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That seem to be the key point. When there is a universal kindness, goodness, or genuineness begin to occur, then we are capable of doing something, to ourselves to begin with, so that we don't become nuisance to others, and we are also helping others greater. And we are helping others so that they can help themselves, rather than they are dependent on you as a leader.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=780.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Out of that grows number three stage, third stage, which is again as we talked last night, a sense of longing for the teacher, who taught all those things to you. And also a sense of that the phenomenal world doesn't allow to become obstacle, or particularly helpful -- the phenomenal world as it is. The third one is known as mahayan-- the vajrayana, or the tantric Buddhism, which is, one is able to transform, transmute the passions and the aggressions, and various defilements, can be transformed into a state of wisdom. Now here \"wisdom\" means not necessarily purely \"wise\" alone, but wisdom means “egolessness”, state of egolessness, or state of \"being\", simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=825.0,982.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There one begin to achieve state of mind which does not have to be cultivated or lost, but a natural state of delightfulness. And delightful in this case meaning not necessarily \"beaming happy\" alone, but delightful in this case meaning total joy. As we call it a total sense of \"is-ness.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=982.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we could help others, we could help ourselves, we could influence the universe, the world, with a sense of \"is-ness\", \"that-ness.\" Which neither comes nor goes, it is all pervasive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1045.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All those three journeys are taken methodically with the help of teacher, and requires tremendous diligent in one's part. When one reaches a state of no question [sound of thunder and rain; laughs; laughter], the natural dharma is proclaimed. Therefore one begin to feel that without egotism, that one is the king of the universe. One begin to develop tremendous conviction without pretense, tremendous doubtlessness begin to develop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1099.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the final point is \"without doubt.\" Which is called enlightenment, in some sense, or wakefulness, in the ultimate sense. The wakefulness is cultivated at the beginning with the mindfulness awareness and sympathy to oneself and others, so finally one begin to reach pinnacle of state of there's no question whatsoever. One becomes a part of the universe.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I think that's all, this point. There *are* various details and technicalities but since time is short and also it seem to be futile to talk about this and that too much, this point. So, I would like to stop there, this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf anybody would like to ask any questions, or add anything, you are more than welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1212.0,1353.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, you spoke a little while ago about reaching a point in which the passions of greed and aggression and ignorance were transmuted, or could be transmuted into some kind of wisdom or egolessness and simplicity and-- or just being or whatnot. I'm interested particularly in the question of how that's done. And in particular with respect to the local community, in which there seems to be a kind of a looseness about a lot of things that from a Christian standpoint would be considered morality. And I think even from at least some Buddhist standpoints would be considered a shila, morality. So I'm wondering if you could comment on how lust and anger and things like that can be transmuted, and also on how activity like that could be accepted, given those other frameworks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1353.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the main point is that when we talk about transmutation, it is question of when, say aggression occurred, one would look at the aggression, rather then carried away by it, or acting out of aggression. One would just look at the aggression itself. And then it is like reflecting a mirror back to your face. Then you begin to realize that aggression has nothing to be aggressive of. And at that point the energy of the aggression is subsided, but the strength of the aggression is kept as a positive thing. So likewise, you go with the other things that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1433.0,1523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it requires a certain amount of awareness and mindfulness throughout the whole thing, obviously. But we begin to develop natural habit of whatever defilements occured, you always look at -- not for a long time but just a short glimpse of it. And then you begin to free the anxiety of it, but you retain the strength of it, and that strength could be used positively. Which could be a result of basic mindfulness and awareness training in the beginning is very important. Out of that grows all the rest of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1523.0,1632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, we were talking yesterday about relationships with spiritual directors, and--\r\n\r\n\r\n[loud thunderbolt; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1632.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: If I understood something that you said in your talk, it was that genuine devotion for the teacher, and the beginning of the vajrayana path, grows out of mahayana practice. I was wondering if you could say something about how that occurs.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The-- how the mahayana occurred?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: How genuine devotion for the teacher--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --grows out of mahayana practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1665.0,1694.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Well, in the mahayana practice that we don't call it “teacher”, but we call a “spiritual friend,” who is like a ferryman who travels with you, who's like a pilot who flies with you, and journeys together. And from that develops the notion of realization of the strength of the teacher, that the teacher knows how to navigate, knows how to nurse you. And you begin to develop a tremendous appreciation of the teacher, that seem to be the important point. Of course the journey itself is very rough sometimes, and very arduous. And at that point the teacher helps you. And when journey is easier teacher joins you, at the same time. So there's a sense of that the teacher has sacrificed his or her life throughout your life, throughout your path. So there's a sense of that tremendous loyalty comes from teacher, as much as your loyalty to the teacher. So that sense of mutual loyalty, which makes a teacher very precious. Is that what you're talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1694.0,1844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I'd like to ask you two questions. The first one is, I would like to know how you would answer a question that's often addressed to Christians and I'm sure as well as Buddhists, and that is that the third stage of the development, you described as a delighted-- delightful, total joy, with the is-ness of things. And the question would be, how does that state relate to the fact that many are suffering, that many are still in samsara? Very often those who are close to us, not to speak about the sufferings of the whole world. So the first question would be, how-- isn't it-- some people would ask, put it this way -- at least to me it's been put this way -- isn't the mystical journey the essence of egocentrism? That ultimately you come to your own ability to be totally joyful with the is-ness of everything, and the is-ness of everything isn't very nice, and it isn't very pleasant for everyone. That would be the first question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1844.0,1938.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The second question has to do with the joy and the suffering. We have been using here the word \"compassion.\" The word compassion is used also very much in the Christian tradition, my own, but it's used in a way which connotes co-suffering. \"Compassion\" etymologically means \"to suffer with,\" \"to suffer with.\" And of course I think we all know that the Christians believe the God who is with us -- that [Mother] Tessa [Bielecki] mentioned yesterday -- is a God who is with us *suffering* with us. And that the perfection, and in a sense in the Christian tradition even the joy, comes from co-suffering love. And that in this age of samsara, the expression of the perfection of the enlightened one is that he takes on the sins of the other and even *suffers* with the other. And that even strangely enough constitutes a certain type of [laughing] joy. But in any case I think it can be said that Christian perfection is often described as \"co-suffering love,\" and that is what ultimately is the expression of those who are really at peace, and really having this -- whatever achievement would be, it would be expressed in that manner.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=1938.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: Being co-crucified with Christ out of love for the brethren, and therefore showing the deepest perfection. So I would ask about the co-suffering understanding of compassion, and what reaction you would have to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2037.0,2053.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Well, I think your question is that the second path, which we call \"mahayana\", that is the working with the others, become very important. You don't just stay in a state of mystical ecstasy. So working for others will make you grow. And the question of suffering and compassion is also that you feel other people's pain and suffering. It is been said in the texts that the Buddha's realization of other people's suffering is if you drew a stroke of hair in your ball of your eyes, whereas the ordinary practitioners maybe a hair on your palms. So there is that much differences in sensitivity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo more you attain the vajrayana state, you become far more sensitive, and in a sense far more painful, from that point of view. Because you have to see other people fully, completely. It's like a stroke of hair on your eyeballs. So that seem to be the point of not just dwelling in joy alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2053.0,2213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Sir, I wanted to ask you about the devil. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] And as being brought up Christian in an early age myself, that it seemed like misfortunes and evil in the world tended to be manifest by the notion of \"devil.\" And from vajrayana point of view, is there also this evil manifestation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not so much of evil... what you mean by \"evil\"? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, the things that happen that seem quite tragic and un-godlike. Could be flood, could be automobile accident, could be finger in the door. Those are just sort of what come to mind but I'm sure there's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2213.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well some of them are regarded as a reminder, that because you have lost your awareness and mindfulness, therefore you're being pulled back. And some of them are just general negativity, and in according to Buddhist tradition, the word \"mara\", or evil, is referred as \"ill will to others.\" That's the most evil of all. Whereas any obstacles are-- could be solved. Or they could be regarded as a message of some kind. But most evil of all is ill will, and tremendous aggression, and destruction of others, and creating pain to others, that's the most evil of all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2281.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: My question has to do with the experience of the hair in the eye?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Experience of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The hair in the eye.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: The eyelash.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2378.0,2396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Could you speak about when the pain becomes so unbearable, how to remove it or cut it, so that you can proceed? The sensitivity becomes overwhelming.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's question of not removing particularly, but using that as a journey. That seem to be the way. Rather than if you remove, you're removing a lot of opportunities, possibilities. So, it's a question of using it as part of the journey.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What seems to happen though, even though there's the hinayana and mahayana basis, is that when this obstacle is in your eye it's very hard to be precise about what you're doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't want to remove your precision. Although it might be painful but at the same time it is very precise one, so one has to work with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2396.0,2500.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: I guess the main thing that seems to happen is that it's very hard to tell your own pain from someone else's pain, at this point. At least that's what I'm finding, so... [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somebody else's?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, it's hard to tell what's your pain and what is someone else's pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that should be quite easy to tell, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, that's what I thought [laughs], but it isn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seems to get confused.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Sometimes we do. But at the same time if there is a tremendous precision already developed, there will be no mistaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2500.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER5: Just the last-- just the fear of causing harm to others is what I'm really concerned with, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well, I think that's a question of one's own composure, or one's own mindfulness and awareness, which prevents causing pain to others. If you are there, if you are precisely there, if you're following the mindfulness awareness thoroughly, with the composure, then there wouldn't be any problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How do you know you're doing that though?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Know that you're doing it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, one doesn't, but one has to just do it. But then, little while later you will know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2559.0,2648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I'm wondering about the notion of mindfulness, and what Mother Tessa [Bielecki] yesterday called \"personal, passionate presence.\" And it seems to me that one emphasizes detachment -- mindfulness -- and the other one emphasizes involvement. With one there is a reference point, and with the other one there is no reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean mindfulness?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Mindfulness as having no reference point, as [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2648.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: And personal passionate presence or Christianity as taking God for reference point, and allowing yourself to be taken over by that presence, rather than stepping back and just looking at it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2680.0,2693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think both are same thing in some sense. If you are doing properly, both sense. And even in the Buddhist sense, if you are developing mindfulness in the wrong way, you are doing it with self-consciousness. It's the same thing, I think.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Doing it the wrong way is the same as... as what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well doing it wrong in some sense, that mindfulness is regarded as ego-centered way of self-consciousness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Yeah, I'm trying to-- I mean I'm getting it-- doing it the right way though, you know. That's what I'm--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --if you do it the right-- I mean it-- there does seem to me to be a difference between the Christian and the Buddhist point of view. I mean, and I can see it in the demeanor of the individuals. And it seems to be some kind of detachment, as opposed to some kind of involvement.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't see particular differences there. You see, you have a doer, you have an action, and you have achieved, in any case, which is common to both Christianity and Buddhism. So I don't see any partic--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: It's more a question of path I think, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In fruition it may be the same, but the path, getting there seems to be almost opposites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2693.0,2802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we should ask… here. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: If I understand what Rinpoche is trying to say to your good self [laughs], it is that one can practice mindfulness in the wrong way, in which case, in a way in which \"detachment\" in quotations is attachment in actual fact. Would that be correct?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And so in-- the essential point in the path is a certain *un-self-conscious* approach; non-reflective approach, both to the mindfulness and both to this personal passionate presence that Father William [McNamara] and Mother Tessa [Bielecki] speak about. But I think the words are difficult for a Buddhist -- \"personal, passionate, presence.\" Maybe not presence, but maybe the other two words. [Laughter] I think that-- I think the difficulty lies in there somewhere. It-- when we were speaking the other night, the experience of emptiness or shunyata also brings, maybe not simultaneously but shortly thereafter, the experience of the compassion, and that somehow emptiness and compassion are one. And it is similar in Christianity, only maybe the reverse is experienced, and this is why you think of it as different. The compassion comes first and then the emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nThink that one over. [Laughs; laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2802.0,2948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Hello? Now that I've got this, I'm not sure if I can talk. I attended Naropa about a year ago for a year, and I've been on the fringes of the Buddhist community since my first beginning at Naropa. And I find myself always very skeptical about the package that I see the teachings being in, that I see a neurotic aspect. And when you were addressing someone in regard to the relationship of teacher to the other, from my most-- from my sense of what this is about, I ideally sense that every relationship should be that way, and that because of the Buddhist lineage and the recognition of one person who's carrying more of where it's at, that then the relationships between the people within the community are in some way sidetracked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=2948.0,3051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I went back to Naropa for the first time in several months -- I've kind of lost connection -- yesterday and I found myself feeling very uncomfortable again. And I'm having trouble separating... you know what am I still doing here, coming back here? I mean I'm interested in you as a person, but I'm finding it very difficult to accept the whole show as it is. And I just had to say that because it's been bothering for two years. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3051.0,3096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think the question there is... get yourself involved and trying to help somebody else, what you understand, what you learned from learning, from Naropa Institute. You should share that with the others. And once you begin to do that, then you begin to realize why organization exist, and why such work exist. But I don't want to convince you too much. And I think I would like to leave it on your own journey, and let it grow. And it's like a potted plant. And keep on watering once in a while, but don't throw out of the window.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3096.0,3196.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, I've been wondering since I heard the phrase \"personal passionate presence,\" if there's some connection in the vajrayana tradition in the deity yoga, of the state of bliss.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Personal what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I wondered if there's some connection between the-- this phrase of the \"personal passionate presence--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --in the vajrayana tradition of bliss, in the practices of deity yoga.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's-- in the vajrayana it's almost impersonal, is because it's egolessness. And once you achieve the understanding of impersonality, then you might come back and become a person. So it takes journey. First you have to become nothing, and then you become somebody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3196.0,3287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Is that also then connected with your phrase today of be-- feeling, I think you said \"like the king of the universe without ego\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3287.0,3309.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Thank you sir. Rinpoche, when you were addressing the young gentleman on the floor over there, it sounded like you were saying that somehow essentially the Buddhist's spiritual experience of nothingness and the Christian experience as portrayed by Mother Tessa were essentially the same thing. And I think what the young man was trying to say is to some of us there's a gross and palpable difference in the kinds of personal presence radiated by people such as yourself, and the [Eido] Roshi, and Joseph Goldstein, and that projected by the representatives of the Christian tradition on the faculty. If the experiences are essentially the same, why such incredible difference in quality of personal presence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uh huh. [Laughter] I think largely because it is spoken by different people. [Laughter] And it's a different upbringing, different type of style, a cultural style maybe. And discovery style may be different. But other than that, I don't see any differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3309.0,3406.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, can you give me an example of how a practitioner of tantra would approach transmuting negativity into something that's positive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's again, the same thing we said before, that question of negativity is not regarded as just a-- you don't label them as negativity without looking at it. Once you looked at, then there is-- negativity has no solid substance as such. It begin to dissipate, it begin to dissolve. And it becomes workable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Can you give an example?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, same thing as we said about defilement like anger, for instance. When anger occurred, instead of acting out, you look at. And once you looked at, then it becomes different than your preconception of anger. And then it becomes workable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3406.0,3518.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Well then, speaking of anger, if you were to put it behind you, as Jesus says, and then there-- in essence if you leave-- if you believe that there is no anger there will-- no anger, no non-positive, that you won't come across it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [UNCLEAR: Maybe it is?] to deny.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: To deny that there is, to put it behind you, that you don't see it, will you then...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Does that dissolve it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Does it dissolve it, yes. That's...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3518.0,3561.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It does dissolve, definitely does. Otherwise, there's no energy to live on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So then on the spiritual path, like Brother David [Steindl-Rast] spoke of the homing pigeon, it's going to get us there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I think so, yes. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3561.0,3589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispering, aside] Maybe we might should stop this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3589.0,3609.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER14: Well, the rain has stopped so we'll be able to break. Judith, are we having-- is there any tea or is there just a break now until faculty seminar? No tea, so we have a break and then the faculty seminars begin at three-thirty-- at four, four o'clock.\r\n\r\n\r\nI'd like to thank Trungpa Rinpoche very much for being with us and giving us some glimpse into the Tibetan vajrayana tradition. And thank you all very much for coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3609.0,3641.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41082/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I would like to thank everybody coming along to this. And our hope is that we could build some kind of bridge, so that the two great traditions of spiritual path could join together and work together, on behalf of all sentient beings. And to create peace and harmony in the world.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I also would like to thank you, the lady and the gentlemen, Sister and the Fathers here, and Roshi, to spend this much time, and helping us. I'm sure we are going a long way, this point, and hopefully we could resume next year. And thank you everybody.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3641.0,3733.13306"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19820810VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=0.34,3.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Naropa Institute,\nChristian-Buddist Conference,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=3.97,7.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talk entitled\n\"The Tibetan Vajrayana 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1982.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=13.59,18.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI auto-remaster\nmade March, 2021.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928#t=18.13,23.79"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76224/file/168928/transcript/41083/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE:\nThe following will 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