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Topics include: how to approach work if one doesn’t feel connected to it; whether work needs to be fulfilling; how to approach speed at work; how and whether to bring meditation to one’s work; the Western notion that one fulfills oneself through work; what to do when one feels trapped in a job, or uncommitted to it. The tendency to always look for something better. Trungpa Rinpoche stresses importance of communication with one's work; bringing an open-mindedness to it; how one can be creative even in the most repetitive jobs\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Chapter 7: Creativity and Chaos\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 19 2026 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA long discussion that covers a lot of ground regarding work and other topics. Topics include: how to approach work if one doesn\u0026rsquo;t feel connected to it; whether work needs to be fulfilling; how to approach speed at work; how and whether to bring meditation to one\u0026rsquo;s work; the Western notion that one fulfills oneself through work; what to do when one feels trapped in a job, or uncommitted to it. The tendency to always look for something better. Trungpa Rinpoche stresses importance of communication with one's work; bringing an open-mindedness to it; how one can be creative even in the most repetitive jobs\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled \"Work, Sex, Money II,\" given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk 4, \"Creativity and Chaos,\" given on September 2, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made September, 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held at Tail of the Tiger in September 1971. This will be Talk Number 4, September 2nd, Part 1.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=0.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any discussions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What's work? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I mean last time you just said it was a-- created, showed a situation of sort of environment of working, but I didn't feel that I understood what work was about, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Well it seems once a person is able to feel the basic creative environment, then other process of work becomes less of struggle. That seem to be the key to work. And somehow strangely enough it seem that work is also tied up with the discussion on the sex as well. That it's a process of communication. It's a process of either relating with people or relating with material objects. It's-- work is a mere object of communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd once you have the basic sense of-- basic philosophy of the work so to speak that we discussed the other day, then somehow work becomes very simple. Not that of give and take, but it's continual process of exchange.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=67.0,284.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: There's this-- there's a certain barrier involved. And I mean [laughs] it seems like really a dualistic moment there where the work is all piled up on one side and you're on the other side feeling maybe unwilling for, you know, feeling much smaller than the job. But there's this moment of being-- of feeling that the work is a mountain. And somehow it's almost seems like the freer the communication is, that it doesn't necessarily need to be done, or something like that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's work based on ambition it seems. That you have big scale notion of a target, that you want to-- you want to destroy, or you want to build whole big thing. And there is-- [sound of a car driving by] [laughs; laughter]...\r\n\r\n\r\nThere is Tibetan story of a local land lord went to cut off certain high peak of mountain, because that prevents him getting sunlight in the winter in his residence. [Laughter] And he ordered his people to do it. Then halfway people realize, and rush down to his residence and chop off his head. [Laughter] Said it's much easier to chop off our lord's [laughter; laughs] head than cutting off head of mountain. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=284.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Rinpoche, in a lot of the other kind of religions, like we were talking about last night, and also Western psychology, there's a great deal of an emphasis on fulfilling oneself through work, and finding out that one's real-- one's vocation so to speak, and what one really should be doing, and all this kind of thing. So I guess I'm still under the influence of that and dealing with something like that. I mean how does that fit with your way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My way. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Not *your* way, your--.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My law. [laughs] Fulfilling -- can you elaborate a little bit? What does that mean to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Well... I suppose it means that it's not possible, for example, in certain jobs -- so like a clerk or-- or in fact a person if it's not the job that's right for him, I mean, he's limited by not being right for the job. And if-- and this is pro-- maybe true for *most* of us, and that if we could find the job that was really-- that we ha-- we sh-- we need to have a job that's really brings out our talents so to speak. I'm not saying I particularly agree with this, but this is the kind of indoctrination which we're very much brought up to feel. And that we have to find the real-- the job for us which-- through which we can develop and bring out all our potentialities, through our work -- like an artist say develops through his painting, or a scientist develops through his work in his science. But this isn't impossible for everyone, because there are so many jobs in which you just day-by-day you're doing the same old thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Well, like that story that I've just mentioned, it's-- if whole thing is based on ambition, then somehow you lose the meaning of the work-- of work as such. I think a lot of people find work is negative, as you said, particularly if they have uninspiring work, regular day-to-day work, which has no personal commitment, personal link, of any kind. But seems that the trouble is you see that somebody had to do that work as well, otherwise that everybody become a craftsman, artists, that nobody does a regular job. So you don't get your regular service. Somebody dislike to be a milkman for instance, so you don't get milk. And somebody dislike to be a security guard, hanging around in a huge apartment. But that sort of problem is always involved. And what we are saying the other day about work is largely based on that particular notion of the regular uninspiring work could be approached from point of view of sense of humor, and something communicating there as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think that's the basic point, that-- otherwise that those who are talented people would feel extremely proud and functional, and those who are untalented people find they are just useless and purely functional. Which makes that whole thing is very big distinction between like difference between animals and human beings. And somewhat there is a big problem, automatically there is a big problem. Unless that both-- any kind of work is being able to relate as work in the sense of communication. And if you really communicate, if you are able to see the creative process, from the uncreative situation, then you are constantly inspired. So everybody is a talented artist. In fact much more so than the artists who had a very limited scope, of purely awakening of his own potentials. But those who are not artists, those who are doing manual labor and ordinary job, repetitive job, are able to use and able to see the pattern of creative situation there. It's extremely skilled artist indeed.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd somehow I think we face that kind of problem. In other word the teaching is not presented to the genteel society or the intellectual society at all; teaching is presented to anyone, everybody. And there should be some kind of universality quality of the teaching, I feel. But of course that we can't solve the problem by purely talking, but somebody had to try it, and somebody had to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=459.0,898.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What if you work-- if you have to work for something that you recognize as fraudulent, or even worse than fraudulent, it's pernicious. It's so much of that is going on, for-- very-- how can you use-- foster up your sense of humor about that? And you have to transcend morality altogether, any kind of morality. Supposing you work on some government project that the end product-- or some advertising thing, that the end product of it is really to befuddle people or even to kill people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It's rather-- I was thinking about that the other day; what you said seemed so applicable for a situation like here, or some other very useful and potentially beautiful situation. What about people who have to work for those things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose that there is also some intelligence involved. Like working on arm factory or something of that kind. Some kind of intelligence involved, as well. And also the basic philosophy, that where these things been used for. I think there again it's whole thing is based on that your involvement in the situation at the beginning. That if you look for such a purpose, such a situation, and if you went to it, and got into it, then there must be some creative situation that you felt through. Otherwise you wouldn't get into such situation, just by purely blindly. It seem to be *your* doing, that situation. I mean nobody, at least in this country, is being boycotted to-- what you call, not boycotted -- to... ordered to get into such jobs, like it might happen in the sort of concentration camps, a place like that. The people have a certain amount of their own intelligence, choice situation; it's depends on your own choice: where you involved, how you involved. And once you're involved, then you have to relate with your original process of involvement. That doesn't have to be particularly working in a beautiful place, necessarily alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=898.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, I might have missed this at the beginning, but do you consider meditation work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Yes and no. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And also its relationship to an everyday job, you know, an everyday situation where you find yourself working, and what is the relationship? Not-- I mean in terms of-- in a sense that sometimes I feel, wow, you know, if I could stop this and sit down and meditate. In other words...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean medi-- relationship meditation-- between meditation and work?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah, but everyday work. I mean like when I first came here, you know, and I went back home and told my friends, I said, \"It's out of sight man, meditation is your coffee break.\" In other words, instead of taking a coffee break like a regular job you stop for an hour and you meditate. But also whether meditation is work because it seems to go hand in hand and it is work in one sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Well meditation shouldn't interrupt work, or work shouldn't interrupt meditation. I mean there is of course a situation that you want to stop that work; therefore the easiest excuse is to meditate. For a change. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I mean that's what I mean! It's as hard to go and meditate as it is to work sometimes. You can just as soon, you know, go for a walk, smoke a cigarette, you know, take some coffee, or whatever you-- rap with your friends. It's just as much an effort sometimes to med-- to sit down and meditate, in a certain sense, instead of diversion, you know, instead of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem that point the meditation-- there seem to be something is strange about the attitude to practice of meditation. And also attitude to work. That a person should be able to somehow relate: meditation, sitting meditation and working are closely associated somehow. There should be that kind of link. Which I suppose we had to find ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1116.0,1317.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are any of the techniques that-- in other words, techniques are given for sitting meditation, such as breathing. Do these techniques carry over, have anything to do with meditation and working, sort of meditation in action? Because if things are just simple then when you're working then it seems that there's no problem. But if things are-- say you get in something you're trying to back to simplicity; in other words your mind is going on it, and something to occupy your mind or-- in some way, so that you can forget trying.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Does it have anything to do with meditation in action?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's numerous ways. Also the sitting meditation also particularly aimed it. So that certain stage a person will find physically sitting down is not more meditation than not sitting down. There's sort of sameness quality; that physical involvement is secondary. More of a total involvement is the first thing. I mean that's goes right through from the beginning to the end, to any kind of teachings of meditation. It always has the sort of particular object and aim of it. And particularly when we talk about panoramic awareness development, where that between yourself and your projections the distant relationship is developed very accurately. And you feel the spaciousness of the situation. And that seem to be the one of the basic point of the ultimate, so to speak ultimate goal and aim is being-- goal and path and goal is being the same thing, same situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1317.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well it seems that the speed that which-- at which I work makes a big difference, as far as if it feels like more like a meditation or I'm just, you know, trying to achieve something. Do you recommend like slowing down, you know like if you're doing the dishes to just sort of [laughs] really do them slowly, even though there might be a line of people, you know, [laughter] waiting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that-- I don't think deliberately slowing down would particularly add to anything special. That you'll be more self-conscious of that you're slowing down. But when we talk about spaciousness, it doesn't have to be literal physical spaciousness, or slow. But there's something more fundamental than that. So the best thing is if we are able to see the spaciousness *within* the speed. The slowness within fastness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Mhmm. Maybe we should have running meditation [laughter] as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Somehow it doesn't work like that either. [Laughter; laughs] I mean that case is especially regarded as meditation practice anyway. But in terms of action, you know it's-- there's no point of deliberately making affectation of it. And in other word sitting meditation also affectation, in anyway. So you go along with that affectation for a while. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1474.0,1600.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It seems like there are times where for example if I'm doing my weaving, that's very clear to me, you know, it's very clear, the meditative aspect of that. But if it comes to something, like, I have four screaming children jumping in and out of the bathtub, [laughter] you know, it's another story. And perhaps it's just like the difference between sometimes it's easier to sit than other times. But it seems to me like choosing a certain kind of work that I can see, you know, but if it's something like child-care it seems nearly impossible to me, you know, to see... And yet, I mean I know the basic-- it's the same thing, but I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --I have to see it in the sort of situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, I mean, in terms of dealing with the weaving, that you know if you work in a certain situation that your material doesn't going to rebel against you. [laughter] You can make them into whatever you like. In case of children that you want them to behave in a certain way, and they don't. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That said it, everything's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a matter of expectation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Mhmm. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [Laughter] Somehow the-- there's a lot of confusion between the situation and-- actual situation and situation as *we* see it. You know, there's a lot of confusion between those two. I mean, some people are very good babysitters, some people are disasters. [Laughter; laughs] As we know. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1600.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Referring to what Jeremy brought up, you said that we all have our particular style, we all have an individuality. And I always felt that work was part of exploring, and expressing, you know, all the corners, all the different things that we are, you know, that makes us-- gives us our own style. Are you saying that we can do that within a limited kind of work, you know, let's say a simple repetitive kind of work that we can find out all those things? Or isn't it necessary to perhaps, you know, go into specific kinds of work, to de-- in order to develop, or express, what is the individual aspect?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Well, of course if person is a professional director, he might find days and months to get used to be clerk, in the beginning. But as long as he's willing to open to the situation to be clerk, from his director work. You can always express same kind of your style, still in any given situation. There's no doubt about that. Always you can express your work of art, in any situation. As long as that we are not offended by that we be put into such situations, that resented: \"I don't belong to this class of people,\" you know, \"I should have higher thing, because I am more intelligent,\" or \"I'm more artistic.\" And that makes tremendous barrier.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's interesting point is that when the communist invasion took place in Tibet, the-- a lot of great teachers being put into the concentration camps, labor camps. Of course great teachers never swept a floor or carry stones, bricks. It took of course a long long time to get used to that work. But once they got used to it, apparently, they still remained as great teachers because they are good workers; they being leader of ten groups of people. They be automatically shift up to that post. Because they are regular and, sort of, they have kept certain equilibrium, which kept work going. So they automatically become leaders, of the workers. Unescapable situations like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1735.0,1948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, does it matter what work we do? Like, I find myself trained to do a certain type of work, that I'm not really interested in. And should I just do that work because I have that training or should I fight to do something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there again it's depends on the matter of your confident. That it would be worthwhile to explore other areas that you haven't been trained. But the situation where you have been trained and that you are not interested in also could be interesting as well. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=1948.0,2010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, in terms of what Lilla was saying about working in a destructive situation, you said that in this country one doesn't run into that situation, and you're not forced into a concentration camp or something. Well immediately I thought of the draft, and I thought of when you spoke at the Nonviolence Institute in California, and you said that rather than resist the draft or resist the establishment, that the people there should infiltrate it. And I was wondering how that kind of situation relates to what you were saying in your first talk from the seminar, about reform-- reform in society. And if you have a desire or ambition, or if you're just thrown into a destructive situation like that... I mean we're all involved with politics in some-- with the politics of this country, and we're all involved with the army, and with Vietnam and so on. How you can use a destructive situation like that to reform?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see there again that we can't work in a sort of blueprint, of supposing if you are into in this situation that you should do this and this and this. And even if we might have very efficient mind and very wide source of information to do that, and it's not going to work. It had to be depends on individuals, and their intelligence -- how to relate themselves with the situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn other word that the whole thing is if we left people in the army are completely to themselves without helper -- after all they are human beings themselves -- it seem to be we are really doing a lot of disservice then the service helping. There are a lot of people involved with this military service are also awake people, in many situations. And I don't think going to be anything wrong at all, and if somebody give an inch, and willing to work with such situations. But that's quite a dangerous plot to [laughs] talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2010.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I think you said that there's room for someone's style in whatever job they do. And yet I was sort of visiting a cigarette factory in North Carolina, which was filled with machines. And people just doing this, looking at the cigarettes to see if there are some that aren't perfect, all day long. I don't see where there's room for *any* individual there. I mean I don't see how even a meditative person can relate to that situation, because his whole job has to do with inanimate objects to a very great extent. I mean where is the space in that, such a tedious mechanical thing, day in and day out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have to try and find out. [Laughs] Nobody did it so far. I mean that's completely a sort of closed area. If anybody are interested in such thing, of working with that, nobody did it, you know, nobody got into it so far. So we somehow need a team of voluntary such workers. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2166.0,2244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: I worked on that a little bit. I worked in a hypodermic needle factory [laughter], disposable hypodermic needle. And I couldn't find any space in it except for thinking about how work might be better structured. And so it was like there wasn't immediate space, it's like for an-- I mean I learned so much from that situation and how it shouldn't be done. That kind of thing. And also, although so much of-- although there's a lot of work available that’s not maybe directly oriented to war, it seems like ninety percent of the work available is kind of frivolous kind of things. You know, not having to do with eating and shelter and clothing, but just-- And I-- it seems to me that we have to think about those things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We have to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Think about them. And if we do want to use other things, like radios and things, then how important are they to us? We should be willing to work in those factories I think if we want to use them. Either that or form different kinds of work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well there is always tendency of, like people involved in the school system, as students, and they always have the natural reactionary tendency of how the school ought to be, should be. And spend a lot of energy on that background philosophy of master plan, than actually trying to do something in their own situation, their own space. But if people would do that, the only thing people might do is just drop out of school altogether, which means you're leaving the whole thing intact, completely. So the other people could go on doing the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But you could attract them to a new school.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, by being there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: By being there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2244.0,2398.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I've worked on a number of different jobs that were very repetitious, and the actual work didn't really mean anything to me, or I felt no personal gain from it. And it wasn't creative, and that it was even doing things I should have-- really wasn't interested in. But I found the repetition with the work, having no meaning, not doing anything as far as I was concerned [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] was very much like meditation. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] And it just, you know, it wasn't going to get me anything in particular, but it was something I had to do because I needed the paycheck. But the work itself wasn't anything. And I found that I spent many years meditating, during work, and go through the same problem I do when I'm meditating now. For instance, the thing-- wanting to be finished with your work in meditation. And instead of meditating you're thinking about how much longer it's going to go on. And I found that if I could just do the work without caring about what was going to happen in the future, that the work would just move by until the end the day. And I didn’t go around complaining, like everyone else who worked around me. And it seemed to be not such a bad thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's another way of looking at the situation. But somehow that one would envisage it could be something more creative than that, just purely the meaninglessness of the thing. There could be something more creative than that. I mean it's-- things aren't really bad as that, although we think. I mean things could be seen as bad, as epitome of worst possible things as could be, of course. But at the same time, what we are trying to point out here is that some kind of stepping-stone should involve with any situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It seems we're always dealing with people.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. But there is a big advantage of if you're dealing with people, even repetitively. There is always creative situations. People often ask me, \"How do you find giving interviews all day, and hearing the same thing, all over again and again?\" But it's dealing with the people, so people are-- have their own style and it's different, very creative. But the other problem is that when we talk about work it's connected with the repetitive, mechanical job, that you don't see people to as purely buttons, or repetitive objects coming through, you know. That seem to be the thing that we-- what we are talking about. But even then, there should be some way of relating with that. Which we can't give concrete example, or instructions, how to do it, but a person should explore that situation. Not seal it off completely and give up all hope. And just sort of look into the details of the situation, and find out some way of working with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2398.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Somehow, when I've gotten into situations of doing work like that, I always-- it was always I knew a temporary situation, so I never felt doomed by it, which was a great help. But I found that-- I found so many times, getting involved with some very repetitive thing -- even I had a job counting cars once [laughter], in traffic, you know. [Laughter] I really found that taking care of each little object that came by, I mean-- or if-- I remember typing stuff, just copying, on typing, and when I really got into it it was more beautiful than anything that-- else that had ever come up that I could remember. And just sitting there typing and getting the typing right, it happened that it just was very inspiring. It was just tremendously rewarding thing to do. Because it was simpler than anything I would ordinarily get myself into. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter] And it was completely clear, everything that I had-- it was completely circumscribed little job, and just to sit and do it was really gorgeous. I mean, it really happened-- it happened a number-- it has happened a number of times.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So how long could you have done it for, with this effect?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Well, I don't know, if I had to do it all day everyday, I don't know what would happen. [Laughter] I really don't know, but I guess it would get pretty dry.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pretty dry.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2610.0,2726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: What about the people who aren't doing too-- a repetitious job, and they really have a feeling that they might-- they've been there for twenty years and they have another twenty to go, and that's all they have to look forward to. Like, most of the people here don't-- really feel that fate [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well. Well it seem to that there is a basic attitude is involved. If they feel that they are completely trapped in it, then they fail to see the interesting aspect of it. A lot of people here they been talking about it, such a situation, because they are not trapped in it, they feel they can get out at any moment; it's purely temporary measure. Therefore their mind is open and use-- materialize that as some creative situation. It seem that's the matter of the basic situation, of how much fear you feel that you are trapped in. Or how much fear that-- present moment is freedom to you? It's again a question of they are talking about a future and past. If you realize that future is also closed future, and then there's no room for inspiration at all. If you realize the future is open future then there seem to be some room for inspiration. It's a matter of opinion, it seems, from that point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd a person might find it very inspiring, that rest of his life is on that particular simple work. It's-- he's purely living on the simplicity. He could feel extremely rewarding and securing in some sense. That he doesn't have to step out into another territory and explore whole strange-- dealing with whole strange situations anymore. But on the other hand that he wanted to do that, he wanted to explore all sorts of territories. And he hasn't enough excitement yet, and he wanted to put himself in that kind of excitement situations more. It's depends on sort of acceptance.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd it's like same thing you happens in the monasteries. The monks would feel that rest of their lives is committed to such-- doing regular thing -- getting up in the morning and doing the service, and chanting and meditating and then going to bed, certain limited hours. And since they feel their whole lives depend on that, that they feel-- they *could* feel they are trapped in it. But at the same they could feel that the whole thing inspired them. I mean except of course there the conscience makes quite clear that it is something spiritual, something super-mundane thing they are doing. But that doesn't mean to say very much. But actual physical work is very repetitive, being in a monastery. Particularly highly organized institution like Catholic tradition, or like Benedictine monasteries, Carthusians for instance. And whole thing is very much fixed thing. And you are not supposed to miss your mass in the mornings, taking communion, daily confession, eating food, coming back to bed, and-- except like Easter and Christmas celebrations and feasts and things like that. Whole thing is very-- exactly the regular, exactly the same thing. Doing the same thing on and on all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd a lot of people find that that's very exciting, because it's so simple and so much design to the whole flow of daily life is being very smooth and repetitive. People appreciate it. But supposing if the whole thing is regarded as not a spiritual thing, but something daily therapeutic practice, then people would quite easily-- people could react against it to it, you know. They could regard the whole institution as a failure. It seem to be that a lot of things at the background is very much of the attitude.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2726.0,2998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: In the monastery, won't people have the goal of constantly learning, constantly trying to reach into yourself? And [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that could be said the same thing in the work as well, that you are expecting if you worked for twenty years that you get a pay raise, you could become boss of ten people under you. Or finally you might become the overseer of a certain particular area. And the same thing happens in the monasteries. That you first do the repetitive work in order to as novice. And next thing is you do the same repetitive work as novice master, and next thing you do repetitive work as fully ordained monk. And next thing you hope for is you become abbot. And doing exactly the same thing again and again all the time -- except you got more thing to deal with, as well as your own work. It's-- if you approach from mechanical aspect of the whole thing, it seem to be exactly the same thing. When we approach from spiritual aspect it going to be different, but that's dealing with concepts again. So it seem to be whole thing is based on your preconception and ideas. As far as the material aspect is concerned, the repetitive aspect is concerned, it's same thing. It's always the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=2998.0,3114.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I have more trouble with the more complicated work than the more simple work. I mean like doing something simple like washing dishes I can get into and feel it's like meditating. But if I do something like-- that's really a challenge, and really hard, and reading or something, then I kind of get drawn into it and I lose all sense of distance. I sort of-- either I get drawn into it or I feel, you know, it's really hard and I have to work, you know, to understand it or...You know it's much harder to do something complicated, it seems, with any sense of meditation in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what we are discussing is not necessarily what work is more like meditation. But which work has more human potential, so to speak, in terms of seeing-- in terms of that you're able to put your style into the situation, and become creative. It doesn't have to be meditative in terms of repetitive or simple alone. But there could be room, great deal more room for all sorts of other things, of inspiration and other things. Communication, which is outer meditation or meditation in action situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3114.0,3209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Even if the work is repetitive, there is always change though, every single day or every single grouping -- isn't there? I mean that the configurations of the dance always change constantly, so...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Okay. Especially if there's a chance for interchanging [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, sure that-- it's not really repetitive, but we think it's terms of repetitive. There will be only one 1971 -- 71, 1972, for April the 25th, that you're working on that particular day. It's going to be different next day. [Laughs] Working different date, different year. [Laughs; laughter] Different situations. But somehow that doesn't seem to make any difference, because when we talk about repetitive it's too familiar, there's no room for other affectations of any kind. It's too familiar, too easy. That's what we seem to be talking about repetitive. Is more of psychologically, that you can't get into different situations, and the whole thing becomes too much playing back, and doing the same habitual patterns.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is there no room for affectation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what it generally feels.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But, okay-- oh, \"effective\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Effectation, yes. [Whispers] Affectation. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3209.0,3318.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, you've been using the word \"creative\" quite a lot. And that's often associated with imagination, but I think you mean it differently. I'm not sure how you mean creative, [INAUDIBLE]. I don't think you mean imaginative do you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, could be, but not necessarily. It's a reminder of the sharpness of the incident.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Re-- what was the first--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reminding the sharpness of the incident.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Reminding?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that there is something acute and precise, which would lead you to do something else. Which *could* be said imagination I suppose. But it's not dreaming imagination, but it's practical imagination. In terms of that seeing every step is another possibilities of furthering whatever you have. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3318.0,3386.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: By \"creative\" then would you say that trying to improve the job? See how you can really deal with the irritations I mean, in some way? *That's* creative, isn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as that your role in it, your contribution in it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER 21: Would you mean a way it's done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Or way it affected to the whole feeling, the whole basic environment around that particular job.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: And when you say environment, do you mean people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People, situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Of course, the environment, the people is constantly changing. You know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You were never assigned...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: So in that sense, I can see where it could be creative. And where a positive attitude that you might have would affect other people, just as a negative attitude could affect other people. I mean it could be creative from that sense...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it doesn't have to be particularly all the time a smooth situation; could be quite chaotic. But again at the same time there is room to learn, room to develop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well that's what we are seem to getting at, in terms of being too repetitive; there's no room to learn. Or would work provide some room to learn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3386.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: What about-- one advantage in doing a very repetitive job [INAUDIBLE], is that it does give you time to think about other things. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that doesn't seem to be the point. [Laughter; laughs] Then you're not taking interest in what you're doing at the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Well, that of course would be quite a problem, taking an interest in a repetitive job all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you could... [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: But that really would be an achievement then, wouldn't it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Just like in meditation. When you get started to meditate -- well I guess everyone tells the same experience in general -- I can really say for a few minutes I'm doing very well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Yeah-- not a few minutes, I mean, a few seconds. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3497.0,3562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Rinpoche, you talked at the end of the last lecture about sometimes you get very discouraged, and you want to walk off the job. So you have-- anyway you have very heavy feeling, we can get into very negative, heavy feelings in a work situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: You mentioned that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: And then you didn't take it any further, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Didn't I?\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Not that I heard.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. [Laughter] That’s awfully foolish of me. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nRUTH ASTOR: Foolish of me, I'm sure. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter] I'm listening now, though. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, when you have negative situations it seem to be that's the whole thing, also. I mean you find that negative situation not necessarily in the work, alone. But any situations that we have. Being in ideal situations to begin with, and then getting used to it, familiar with it. And a certain stage begin to detect a faint chaos at the same time, as well. And from that then you not only faint chaos anymore but then you really want to step out of the whole scene. That's happening with a lot of cases, a lot of situations. Particularly seem to be more in the spiritual practice, a great deal more. Because you expect something... profitable, and convenient, securing. And the minute when we realize that whole thing is not-- doesn't provide a security as we expected, but whole thing becomes excruciating. And sudden doubt, sudden sense of lost of independence, in-- a sense of lost of security, happens constantly all the time. But those situations are very unique situations. You can't strategize the whole thing. And therefore it is very opportune situation, very precious one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3562.0,3757.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Is there anything else that one can do in such a situation than develop patience, patience with oneself, as well as with the situation which is seeing how it's going to work out?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well not just naive patience, but intelligent patience. That that situation speak something. Which you be ignoring for a long time, and finally it's begin to speak up.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Yes, it speaks very unpleasant things, as a rule.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3757.0,3792.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Why can't you strategize the whole thing? [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because then if you regard the whole negative things as valuable and you can't put into particular stage prop of negative things coming to you, because then you know it is a positive thing for you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Could you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Because if you tell us-- you keep telling us how wonderful negativity is, [laughter] and it comes along -- even if we don't really say it to ourselves, secretly we know our Rinpoche says this is very helpful. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you don't really believe in it. That's the whole point. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Don't really believe it's helpful?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't *really* convinced by it, because things are so painful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But what prevents you from strategizing to control the chaos? It's just too strong for you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Or perhaps you have developed a certain amount of insight, which gets you acquainted with the fact that you are strategizing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well normally you can't control the chaos, in anyway. If you try to control it then you are asking for more chaos, by controlling it. That's a well-known fact.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But there can be a quite profound loss of a lot of self-confidence one have, or even a profound discouragement in oneself at some point or another.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Loss of...\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Self-confidence, or a feeling of discouragement about oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe that your self-confidence built on the wrong direction. If you built on the wrong direction automatically that is be -- what you call -- that whole situation is been weakened. That your self-confidence been weakened, because you have a certain notion of self-confidence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3792.0,3964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Rinpoche, I seem to have an exact opposite experience with work. I find work is incredibly inspiring, and every minute is... [laughter] [INAUDIBLE] as a projectionist in New York City--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: That's because you’re watching movies. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: And you really get a feeling of sort of power, of sort of self-importance. [Laughter] I'm running the whole show! [INAUDIBLE] everything. How can you work with that? [Laughter] To get around that one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self-importance did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self-important. UNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Well sort of using-- being able to use everything, being alert and active and all that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self-importance. Do you suffer for that? [Laughter] From that, I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: In a way it gets to be-- if you relate every sort of situation back--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You what?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: You relate every sort of situation back.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Well the things you create become very important. Or your work becomes-- feeling you can see through it it becomes very useful, it becomes a tool of the ego, it becomes very active [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: You identify with it all.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Yeah, sort of, right. Seeing it as empty you identify with it most [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why should *you* particularly be that? Because without others, you can't create that situation at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED MARVIN: Well it's a totally artificial situation, totally unreal situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Unreal situation. That seem to be the answer in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Would that be created by other people, and other people feel that their job is more [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=3964.0,4123.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Would a sense of humor there in a case like that where [INAUDIBLE] in a different perspective. Like he said, he's running the whole show, but if you see it from [INAUDIBLE] point of view. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it somehow, quite possibly, that sense of humor could be also become part of the whole ego thing. That you are being visionary into what you're doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: I don't understand [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're being visionary. You're being intelligent and you see the whole perspective, including sense of humor. Therefore you're more important, therefore you achieve something greater. It seem to be the whole thing is based on evaluation, in this case. Evaluation of-- evaluation based on oneself. It seems that this situation that you're not really taking interest in the work at all. It's purely you're taking interest in yourself. In the case of the others that they are complete despair and they give up taking interest in anything. Whole thing becomes draggy. In particular this case, it's taking enough-- too much interest in the other aspect. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4123.0,4269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But if you do something and you've done it really well, and somewhere in the course of the whole process without making too much-- without making a specific point of it, you notice that you've done a very good job. [Laughter] You know, I mean you-- certainly, like if you do a good job you probably experience that fact. It isn't necessarily-- you probably get some kind of a positive charge out of that in some way. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean, what I mean to say is that isn't necessarily ego-feeding, is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very delicate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I'm sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: But I mean, it isn't necessary to-- it doesn't-- it seems to me that the tenor of the conversation would tend to develop the idea that it's necessary to erase any sense of satisfaction from doing good work and doing things well. And it seems like you're being a bad boy as soon as you get a charge out of doing a good job.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, whole thing doesn't mean to say that you have to suffer all the time. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: I mean we couldn't suffer all the time if we wanted to. But doesn't-- you know, isn't there some fundamental not necessarily ego-oriented confidence that could be built up by such a thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could, but that's very dangerous to say, extremely dangerous to say. You could develop, definitely you could develop. But then developing that is... that would be very inexhaustible wealth situation, that you don't have to refer back, remind you of anything but you go-- can go on. In terms of, with ego situations, that whole thing becomes very limited. You need constant checking all the time. Which takes lot of energy, and pain and pleasure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: And being in that situation of inexhaustible wealth, being in that kind of a flow, it would demand being open to receive that kind of satisfaction wouldn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm. Undoubtedly. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4269.0,4473.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would it say something to feel humble about your work, and realize that, you know, however great it is, that it could be-- or there are greater works? Or could that lead you to pain [INAUDIBLE]that might just [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well fundamentally, there does-- nothing seem to be any safer, at all, if you begin to play that game. Any-- every corner is being surveyed. Every incident, every situation has copyright of ego, or something or other. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4473.0,4534.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Couldn't you try to replace self-satisfaction with joy? You know, it just seems to -- just be wide open rather than, you know, subjective?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Self-satisfaction?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: I mean like what Michael's talking about, you know, instead of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could, you could. But then, if that joy needs to be-- needs-- if that joy needs maintenance, then you have to work for it, which means you have to waste a lot of energy, in order to maintain it. And that also means, sort of afraid of spending your own capital.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4534.0,4592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Rinpoche, you mentioned something at the beginning, like relating work to sex, sort of like passing by. That's it's very similar. How is that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a communication process. Either relate to people, or either relate with objects. It means also communicating interchange. And work seem to be the same thing; there-- if there is any kind of interchange or communication.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: You're saying a creative thing [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4592.0,4640.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It seems to me that, even apart from the ego aspect, of what Marvin said, that it's possible to have-- or he has this very special situation, that he's very happy. But the danger is that it doesn't carry over into other situations. It doesn't carry over into human relationships or anything else. It just by itself, kind of a little island. Yet still offers a lot of problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, it seem that I thought we should have a talk on work again, connection with the discussions. But it seems we have covered quite a lot of ground already, in terms of work. But I would still like to go over it, if necessary. Repeating what we discussed last time, and conclusion what we discussed today. But problem is that you'll be hearing the same thing all over again. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: That's a switch!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4640.0,4767.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a question of once you are trying to do something with the energy, then you are interfering with the energy pattern. For one thing that you are more self-conscious of yourself. And also that you are not able to see the situation where the energy is happening. So going along with the energy means, in a sense nothing to do with energy as independent one at all, but going along with situations, where the energy is happening. Whereas if you really able to relate with the situations in a true way, complete way--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in order to accept or reject, you have to see the complete picture to begin with. Otherwise you can't do anything. And acceptance could be skillful way or rejecting could be accepting-- rejecting could be also skillful way as well. So before you make any choices of anything, that there is a certain element of choiceless quality, that you have to actually feel and see the situation. It's like buying merchandise. That before you buy, or before you don't buy, you have to know the merchandise qualities, its value and everything completely. Whereas if you begin to reject or accept before you actually see the merchandise or where the merchandise there, but you fail to communicate to it. Then you make good buyer, or seller. It's question of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: You have to know something about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You have to know something about it, exactly. And if you know something about it then that automatically means you are taking full, open attitude to the situation. That doesn't mean to say you have to inflict pain to yourself by accepting, or you have to take overemphasized to pleasure on it, by taking it, or reject the whole thing completely by aggression. But before you make any choice in the situation, first to see the choiceless situation of the situation first. To see the choiceless aspect of the whole thing, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah you have to feel it, you have to relate with the things as they are there. And then you can reject or accept. But that does-- that means that you are really including the whole rejection and acception-- accepting the situation altogether. With the experience of understanding of things as they are. So you have to really learn to see the situations first, completely, before you make any decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=4767.0,5113.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: In other words, just hold the interaction [INAUDIBLE]. And what about of course in which the action you aren’t going to get everything [INAUDIBLE]. But then if one can do, as you say, to see the whole situation, then you can avoid being irritated in a similar situation in the future.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Something isn't quite clear here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: I'm not familiar with other people [INAUDIBLE] this, in the various ways, maybe they could give examples. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, just to feel and open yourself to the situation, without getting too much ready for rejection or accepting. But just to deal, without idea of rejecting and accepting, directly, to the whole situation. And if you really work that way completely, then rejection if necessary becomes natural process and accepting if necessary becomes natural process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: You're withholding judgement until you understand more about it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, before-- without any judgement, but communicating thoroughly. And by communicating thoroughly inspires judgement, by itself. And you--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Well if you wanted-- if you come to understand the reason that a person be-- acts in a certain way, then you don't get affected by it, or then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean a person wouldn't react to you in unpredictable way anyway, if you actually one with the situation. You would see why and how that happened.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: I was thinking specifically now of a situation that I've had to deal with in work, with someone I was working with. And in their [INAUDIBLE] this person would react in a certain way when [INAUDIBLE] a certain type of friend. I hadn't-- it was such an extreme overreaction; it wasn't just [INAUDIBLE]. And well it was extremely disturbing for a long time and so I finally began to feel that it's some problem that that person had, so therefore I shouldn't be reacting to it. Would this be part of what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it seem that if you see that person completely, then it has nothing to do with you, really. That you are just part of the chemistry, happens to be there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Of course, I'm often over-reacting myself. [Trungpa laughs; laughter] [INAUDIBLE] reactions of other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=5113.0,5354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Rinpoche, when Mike was talking before about doing a job where, you know, there's a beginning and you know there's an end, and you feel like you've accomplished something when you've reached the end. And you feel, you know, you sort of get a good feeling, and you've accomplished it. Now I guess I would relate that to an ego getting-- you know just because of the fact that \"I accomplished it,\" it's an ego type of thing. And when you mentioned that it played back on something you said when you were talking about the spiritual path. Wwhen you put up a goal, you arrive at a point where you realize it's a dead end, because you put up that goal, and there's nothing past there. You know, or else there's just a dead end. And the question is, we find it pleasant, you know, while we're on the spiritual path. Is our ego-- is this an ego game in which he wants us to go to an end because we find pleasure at that end too? Just as the same if you find pleasure at the end of a job? And since if our goal is to become totally uninhibited, and we reach that goal, even though it is a dead end, but we put up that goal, is our ego going-- aren't we going to be tricked by our ego in that process of finding it extremely satisfying and pleasurable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pleasure born when?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pleasure born what point?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Pleasure on the accomplishment of the goal. You know, accomplishing the goal that we put up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Because the other day you were talking along the lines that when you reach this dead end, and you didn't really say whether it's enjoyable for our ego or whether that’s a game in which our ego can really fool us in this game, rather. Just seemed that it was sort of where you reach a dead end, so, you know, ha ha, something to that effect. You know like you reach a dead end so you’ve blown it. You know, when you get to the dead end you won't be happy about it. The question in my mind is it that the ego leads you to the dead end and then the ego rules continually, still giving you a feeling of pleasure, at reaching that end. If you can follow that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how informative the ego is. If ego is being very learned ego, on the spiritual path, then the whole thing will go on and on and on. [Laughs] Because a certain ego doesn't want to lose its ground anyway. For moreover, that ego has this enriched with all sorts of informations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Then we'll find a continual dead end then, right? Continual dead end.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Continual dead end but a continual highway as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nI suppose the whole idea of work is that no matter what particular job, no matter what particular situation that we are involved, it's necessary to learn to see the whole thing by open mind, without pre-conception.\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you remember originally we been talking-- first or second discussion we been talking about the transcending karma and transcending concepts? That still applied very much to in terms of job, work as well. That there's all sorts of choices, and all sorts of blueprint of that life that you want to involved, and also that, in a certain sense our snobbishness. That \"I'm not designed for this particular job.\" Doesn't matter about money alone but it's the indignant quality of that you have to-- if you have to involve yourself into doing such and such thing. That you are completely indignant by the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=5354.0,5690.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Rinpoche, I remember doing one or two jobs, a driving job and also working on a ship. And the reverse thing happened at a certain point when they discovered that I was a student. \"What is somebody like you doing this sort of work for?\" And there was a tremendous indignance that I was doing--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You were doing the...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Doing the work of a driver or a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: And this confused me actually, it pushed me back. I had to ask myself what I was doing that for. [Laughter] But there is this other course that seems to happen. I mean there are-- people like ourselves seem to be highly evolved in some sense, that we can choose, or think we can choose, what sort of work we can do. And a lot of the workers who I was working with, it was exactly the reverse; they had no choice. So they went to work immediately driving because that's what they could do, and that was what the job going around the corner.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Mmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: It's very difficult to find what-- [Laughter] It's very difficult to actually isolate the element of choicelessness that we are in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=5690.0,5790.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well, that's-- when people get too carried away, traditionally happens in Tibet, the monks or certain particular great scholar and certain great teacher, for that matter, get too carried away in the monasteries, the abbots would ask him to be the tea server, or the wood collector. And so he gets his criteria correct, or uncorrected his criteria. Or transcend his criteria. Which would be far more effective to them than if you ask them to do say 500 prostrations in front of the sangha. He would just go and do it. [Laughter] That's okay, that's religious paying off the debt practice. But by being tea server or wood collector is extremely difficult. Of course then in Tibet there is more social conscious of hierarchical structure, as well as sort of saving face, is more prominent than probably in this country, like what happened in Japan in some partly. Same kind of situation of saving face is more important. Which means that they have much more thicker mask of social conscience than this country, or outside in the West.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=5790.0,5920.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems that kind of situation is largely based on what you ought to be, what you like to be. And you want to belong to certain particular pigeon holes in society, that you should get a better treatment from the country, society. Which actually strangely enough the Communists worked quite well with that: that there is daily exercises that presidents or prime ministers go out and do gardening and collect rubbish and shit from the street, and they carry basket on the back and collect them, and bring them back to manure heap. And that kind of little operations done from that point of view. But of course whole tendency and whole approach from that point of view is been wrongly emphasized, in terms of becoming a-- by being humble, that you are respected more. You're a greater person because you're humble. That kind of game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=5920.0,6011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you work on the basic situation of that kind, the whole thing seem to be based on concept, that really everything holds up by concept in terms of job and work. That you have a certain particular concept of a job or work. That you feel that it is beyond your intelligence, or under your intelligence, more likely. Then you feel resentful of it, or uninterested in it. So the result of that is that automatically you prove yourself that you are not good worker, at all. You do very clumsy work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6011.0,6075.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the answer is you need more of that kind of work. [Laughter] And there is another situation with work is that we have very ambitious person, a mad over doing something. Doing his own little duty. He would like to do it very much; he's been dreaming about it for a long time, and he want to really do it very much. Without knowing what he is really. And he gets into such situation. With such romantic expectation. And he gets into it, he does it. And he doesn't find romantic at all, that he find very disappointing. But there is that he's only interested in the end product, or if he wants to be a professional photographer, and he loves doing it, because purely he saw some other artist's handiwork, of beautiful photographs that be produced. Without realizing how much discipline that he have to go through by becoming such skillful photographer. And that kind of problem is also very hidden situation; that people are dying to be something, and jump into it. And then they begin to find they disprove to them more than they prove to themselves. Which is terribly humiliating to ourselves, as well as in front of other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6075.0,6225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you experiment on all sorts of floating jobs, all kinds. Take occasional touring around different countries, collecting, and involvement all sorts of excitements. Quite possibly you're involved with meditation. Enjoying all sorts of ashrams, religious centers, and meeting interesting people. [Laughs] And certain stage our money runs out, and have to come back, [laughter] and do something constructive. There again, back to square one. [Laughter] \"Shall I go back to photography, which wasn't beautiful. What other source of excitement that we have?\" And all sorts of things like that, quite goes on and on and on, constantly. And strangely enough, a lot of people end up by being teachers [laughter], of yoga, or meditation, or Buddhism. Because that's the easiest thing in a certain way. That you don't have to produce your example of your sample of your work, you can just go on talking. [Laughter] With your background of tourism also helps tremendously. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6225.0,6350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe that you have a plan of writing a book about your travels, but you never get around to it. Such a person would never get around to things of any kind. They might write two or three chapters, but then there's no more. It's kind of very young, beautiful, exuberant expression, without depth. There's that kind of floating thing happens with a job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6350.0,6392.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There again the result is that whole thing that we are not able to stick to the situation, and patiently go through it; explore the whole area, and patiently, painfully go through it, and achieve the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6392.0,6414.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another point with work is that work automatically means some end product. You might say that's maybe against Buddhist philosophy, but it isn't so. As I mentioned the other day, the quotation of \"better not begin, once you begin you accomplish properly.\" So work is beginning of something, it must have its end, achievement. And there's constant excuses, particularly with people who want to explore themselves much more, that there is all sorts of excuses, that there was not enough opportunities, or the place where you're working has bad vibes. [Laughter] And all sorts of things that we could put into it. But nevertheless, that doesn't mean anything; it's that we've been too cunning. Often laziness is very active. Very cunning and finds all sorts of excuses; very intelligent, very awake. That kind of laziness is not at all sleepy laziness, or dullness, it's very sharp and precise and finds all sorts of excuses. It's sort of spokesman to the fundamental ego, in some sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6414.0,6550.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be particularly that people working on the spiritual path have more danger in not able to experience the work situation, because all sorts of other excuses could be brought out into the practice, of being lazy and all sorts of other things. At the moment when you are-- don't feel like doing something, there is appropriate quotation comes from your mind-- comes in your mind. [Laughter] That all sorts of situation like that happens. But the whole thing is based on as we discussed already, are largely affected by a concept, that you have certain concept. Either you undermine that concept, thinking that you can put a practice into effect without going into physical details or involvement of discipline. Or else that concept has been too much beyond your dignity, so to speak. That you don't want to really get into it. Either of these situations seem to be very unhealthy situations. That work should be able to done any time, any situations, doing any kind of things, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6550.0,6647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting analogy of Guru Padmasambhava's story, that after he has been ordained as a monk, he traveled around and he learned carpentry, he learned poetry, he learned mathematics, and he learned arithmetics and all sorts of other things, handicrafts, and he studied all of these, which is interesting. And also the traditional Indian custom of upbringing a prince or poss-- potential king, universal monarch, is that that prince should have the lessons of doing everything: painting, sewing, carpentry work, poetry, physical exercises. Study of war, making armory, how to settle horse, how to settle elephant. How to build houses, and all sorts of education they have to go though. Which is a part of the whole cultural upbringing. That supposing if a prince has to be-- become a blacksmith, that he does it, he does it beautifully. He still maintains his dignity as a prince, not by pride, but by his example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6647.0,6755.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's another aspect of work, that we always talk about that, \"I don't know how to do it, because I haven't taken a course on it.\" Often a lot of situation in life don't have to be taught, or you don't have to take a degree on it. But you just use your intelligence, and without being hesitation-- have any hesitations you get into it, and you just do it. And you just achieve that, exactly the same end product as those who've been educated in the degree of doing that particular thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6755.0,6808.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seem to be quite lot of areas that where we-- personal intelligence been undermined by systemized books: How to Make a Fire, [laughter] How to Mend Your Shoes, How to Hike, [laughter], and all sorts of things that-- work is extremely awakening situation. That once you are in that situation, that you automatically have to use your basic intelligence to feel the ground. Use your basic common sense, and things get together, and just apply to work it. And that kind of situation of work is also extremely opening, and enlightening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6808.0,6886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That fundamentally we seem to be capabilities of doing anything, unless there's a particularly physical defect that we have. I mean naturally of course that you might say that a certain person will make bad fighter because they are not that kind of aggressive person, aggressive type. Certain person will make bad watchmen, because he hasn't got that kind of concentration. There seem to be certain very limited choices, if you look from that angle. But in-- as well as-- but in any case that a bad watchman could be made into very awake person, if the situation requires him to do so. [Laughs] And he does it beautifully.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6886.0,6978.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we were crossing Tibetan border to India, escape, my escape, that there was particular Chinese highway from China to Tib-- Lhasa, built. And one night when we crossed a particular ridge and suddenly there's about 500 yards away from the ridge, there is a Chinese highway, with military trucks going. And we have to tell everyone that they have to-- we have to cross simultaneously. And somebody could wipe their footprints behi-- afterwards, with a leaf. And we got the person who would wipe the footprints behind everybody gone through with a leaf because of this dirt road. And we got everybody set. And we thought the usually tough people could go first, would be going first, and usually slow people going later. But when the time comes, the slow person went much faster [laughter] than tough people. [Laughs; laughter] It's a matter of how awake you are at the time. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=6978.0,7078.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course that doesn't mean to say the person had to be tortured, in order to work. [Laughter; laughs] But if there's enough interest awakened in the person to do some open communication with the situations, I'm sure a person going to do it very beautifully. And we can't really categorize people all the time. That saying \"such and such a person is bad at something, therefore we better not give this job to him.\" There's always potential in any situation. Unexpected a surprise everybody has. Because there's basic intelligence. And also there's a basic-- if a person is able to reach that level, there is a basic openness connected with conceptualization. But once you able to break that barrier, then any work becomes open and creative situation, and always applicable.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we should have a short discussion after this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7078.0,7194.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Rinpoche, it seems that, I mean, the drift of what you're saying is that maybe somebody should find the thing that they can do least well, and make that their profession. [Laughter] That sounds, I mean, [INAUDIBLE] as if-- I mean it's that negative thing again, that negative energy. I mean is that-- people don't have aptitudes that they should follow? They--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: People don't have what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Aptitudes, or a certain direction that their skill naturally falls in, and that it's wrong to pursue that just because it's easy, or because it's challenging.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that what we put out ourselves to society is not really to-- there's always hidden qualities in us. That doesn't mean to say methodically that anybody who is unskillful on a particular thing should be turn into their skill, their job. But there is-- nobody is being labeled, being a bad worker at something; therefore they couldn't do it. Who knows? You could be good worker at that. But that doesn't mean to say methodically you have to do that all the way, you know, reversing the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: I just feel like having movement that way. [Laughter] [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7194.0,7289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: It seems from the story you told about the tough people and the slow people, that one of the things that quickens people, motivates them, is the fear that they can't make it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I know, and that’s this particular case, yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Now, I find that I'm very lazy, and it seems to be based on some kind of confidence that whatever it is, I can do it. [Laughter] And it's been proven time and time again. [Laughter] But I seem to spend most of my time slumbering anyhow, as a result. That's the typically-- I suffer from that. [Laughter] So I guess I'm afraid I can't make [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't make what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: So I guess, you know, I guess the fear would be that I'm afraid I can't stop being lazy, afraid I can't stop being inactive.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. What can we do? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well you said we shouldn't torture people, it makes them worse.[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come on! But maybe it could help you. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7289.0,7412.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Rinpoche, today you went over some of the sort of self-indulgent, mistaken applications of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: Excuses.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: -of the-- making friends with yourself. Like using quotations to justify what you want to do. Could you go back over again and show how making friends with yourself applies to accepting negative situations?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: I see a conflict there. I can't see any-- the only kinds of making friends with myself I can see in those situations are the ones that you pointed out as... that miss the point.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Making friends with them do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Making friends with them?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: What I'm getting at is, if there's some difficulty, you know, a negative situation arises, it seems that I don't see how you go ahead and do it despite the negativity, in terms of making friends with yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have you tried that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Have you tried that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What happened?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Well, I go to the quotation instead-- it leads me to the quotation. Well also I've tried it and at times it's helpful. Like Roman talked about boring, painful work, you really find something very pleasing in it or valuable, if you stick to it, even though you want to leave.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Well, I got on TV. That's all I wanted. [Laughter; Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That sounds a cop out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7412.0,7592.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 40]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: What's the debt you were talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: You mentioned a couple of times, paying off a debt.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a conventional idea of give and take.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: You think you get something, so you owe something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: But if you had that idea then if you give something then you expect to be paid-- expect--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. That's why it's called samsara. Goes round and round.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: So that's just foolish, the debt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I wouldn't say samsara is foolish. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: It's pretty successful. [Trungpa laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7592.0,7657.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 41]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER43: What about this compulsive work thing that some people-- or, you know, that it's a concept of Western psychology anyway, that we, you know, submerge ourselves, by working hard all the time. And therefore, you know, we avoid the pains and pleasures and, you know, the whole deal. It's sort of a place to hide.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be... rather strange, that how far we can go in that way, without discovering some basic understanding. I mean that idea could be same as the meditation without action. Go and doing it all the time: sit and meditate all the time. And then you might find yourself being more regular, by doing that. It seem to be that applies to any kind of discipline. As discipline is only way, rather than spontaneous actions. Or disciplines without spontaneity. Seem to be rather uninspiring, and not only uninspiring but not particularly awakening. Because you could torture yourself up to a certain point, up to limited point-- limitless point. [Laughter] But that doesn't mean to say that you are learning anything out of it, purely; you do your mechanical job. Mechanical body-- mechanical person does mechanical things. But there's no intelligence involved really. There are certain particular school of thoughts would-- school of thought would say that any kind of hardship -- taking bath in cold winter with a cold shower [laughs], climb over the mountain without rest, eating food that you don't like it. That's what happens in the public schools in England. [Laughter; laughs] Toughen them up. But [laughs] one is not that certain whether that's the way of toughening them up.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the same thing that meditation's been regarded as that, also: that even if your legs hurt just go on sitting. And sit without moving, completely. It would be heroic to meditate in the cold morning up, in the mountains, without any clothes possibly. [Laughs] There's a particular cult developed in Japan, I don't know what it's called. It's largely based on meditating with reciting Heart Sutra, and-- in the winter, pouring cold water on you, constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Jesus.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And actually that's quite serious thing. And what happens is that you passed out, forever. [Laughter] And that's-- those able to pass out forever is those who able to enter into the nirvana. There are certain tombs made by those people. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Do they *really* enter into nirvana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Supposedly. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=7657.0,8007.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 42]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Could you say that some of the austerities that Milarepa underwent is the same type of thing? You know, like only eating nettles and meditating in a high mountain cave out in just a cotton robe. I mean how else can you call that middle way [INAUDIBLE]? 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And somehow that happens, constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo Milarepa's rejection of office could be said of ascetic practice but he didn't reject them. And he didn't go as far as actually he wanted. So somehow or other there is situation that come to him that he realize that there's no point in rejecting all these food brought to him, and all these friends around-- gather around him, disciples; that was not bad at all. And he just accept that situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: But he did recommend to anyone who seriously wanted to follow him that they had to leave society and live in the mountain.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Absolutely true. 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I mean do you think that is a direct-- he said he had bad, relatively bad karma, that's why he had to work all-- why he couldn't take over Marpa's life. He would love to be able to have kids and live like Marpa, but he couldn't, he had bad karma so he had to sit and meditate. But do you think that constant kind of meditation is a necessity, for that-- the siddhis?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In order to get magics do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: Get, no not to get. I mean, in other words, I get the feeling-- I get the feeling that because he kept after himself and he never lef-- he didn't let himself go down and get a job in the village. You know, that he kept after it and kept after it, and finally he was able to be there, you know. But other people didn't necessarily have to do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: I mean like, you know the crazy guy who tends the fire in the Zen monastery who laughs at everybody, you know. 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[Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They don't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Make them better every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260#t=8220.0,8429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169612/file/308260/transcript/93276/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 44]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Yesterday when I was-- in the morning, I was going through a quandary at just about that thing. About sitting, and going through the pain with the legs, and couldn't make any decision. And so, what you said in the morning, about what they did in Tibet -- they did one thing one day and exactly the opposite thing the other day. Decided, why not try that? And so first time I sat all the way through, next time I might just have to move all the time. [Laughter] And just after a couple of times of trying that, it seemed that it's-- I was being terribly unfriendly to myself, to force myself to sit through. And so--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: It just seemed right not to force it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you sat?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You sat, or you left?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Did you sit or did you leave?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: No, no I mean sitting through in it, without moving the position one time, then the next sitting allowing myself to move when it seemed to be reasonable to move.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: And that that seemed-- that it turned out that it seemed that forcing myself to sit through became very unfriendly, and at the end of almost attaining that, I felt like I'd attained a lot, but sort of God knows what, [laughter] you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER49: Who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: Like a lot more.... 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Well the basic point is that... is somehow working everything on the basis of pain is go-- much as pain, if we reflect on ourselves, going to bring that much hope for ultimate bliss, pleasure. But just related with the current temptations and the current psychological sort of inquisitive mind, which is happens at that very moment. So somehow that whether you sit without moving, or whether you sit and reshuffling yourself, doesn't become big issue, that particular point. And also a connection with the attainment of powers by sitting and renouncing world constantly, [laughs] is that how much that we regard daily life is a part of practice as well as meditating. Seems at a certain point people can meditate beautifully well, because they are physically immune to it; they can sit hours and hours without moving. Physically you could develop that. But then beyond that, there is a psychological aspect of it, in which case that the actions seem to be necessary as well. Like for instance, you can imagine if we work on a young child of eight or nine years old, and make them sit cross-legged without moving for a certain amount of time, they would become devotional athlete, in sitting without moving. But that doesn't mean to say they have achieved the psychological state into-- without moving.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd somehow that-- it does mean that constant concentration of effort into the terms of learning process, which does bring certain psychic -- if you like to call it -- powers. That doesn't mean to say that have a power of turning world upside down. Or for that matter your own house. And turning water into fire. Somehow that kind of conjurer aspect doesn't apply anymore, but it's a fundamental magic, fundamental psychic power. That world's most powerful forces been directed into a creative process, which is mind. It depends on how hard you work, that much you able to relate to that situation. Which also means that depends on how much the time spent on learning process. A certain practitioner will find that practice is twenty-four hours work. If you're able to find-- able to relate with that situation then whole thing becomes advance, speedy path. Of course there are going to be some kind of development, if you worked on it. That's natural force, that's natural tendency that's happens, because still that you are not-- may not involve with yourself personally in the karmic situation, but the whole world is involved with the karmic situation. And one able to-- one will be able to work with that cause and effect situation of karma, anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut once we are able to perceive and see greater vision of awake... I don't mean to say the vision in terms of seeing psychedelic pictures. But once we are awake, in the symbolical sense [laughs], we lose a notion of awake or confused altogether. So that we wouldn't be able to congratulate ourselves anyway, at all. And we wouldn't be able to show off to our friends or people who are skeptical to our-- to us. “They look how much I have done, have improved myself.” Somehow that situation doesn't work.\r\n\r\n\r\nAccording to the stories, that if person try to do that and if he suddenly rush to his nearest enemy, and trying to perform his magical performance, yet he couldn't perform it, out of his attainment of whatever it's may be. Because that he has still this tendency of trying to prove himself. That in itself automatically act as the automatic safeguard, in the fundamental sense. But at the given moment it could be a source of embarrassment for him. 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