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Topics raised by questioners include whether it's possible to do away with money; how money as a straightforward form of exchange is not problematic; karma connected with money, including with one's family; how attitudes toward money could be simplified; the ways in which money creates possibilities; how growing up with money was reassuring; the awkwardness of talking about money in context of paying for teaching situations. Trungpa Rinpoche discusses the many kinds of neurosis connected with money.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Work, Sex, Money","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: WORK, SEX, MONEY: Various chapters (Material from this talk was incorporated into various chapters, but was not the main source of any chapter)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/work-sex-money-1735.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book WORK, SEX, MONEY)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eSep 09 2025 to Mar 24 2026 Transcribing: Blaire Martin Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}},{"label":{"en":["Release"]},"value":{"en":["2026-R5"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eVarious aspects of money are discussed, including the then-new trend of barter taking place of money; people rejecting money as being associated with materialism and capitalism. Topics raised by questioners include whether it's possible to do away with money; how money as a straightforward form of exchange is not problematic; karma connected with money, including with one's family; how attitudes toward money could be simplified; the ways in which money creates possibilities; how growing up with money was reassuring; the awkwardness of talking about money in context of paying for teaching situations. Trungpa Rinpoche discusses the many kinds of neurosis connected with money.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260428-880-oznxpl.mpga"]},"duration":3569.18857,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/308/262/original/open-uri20260428-880-oznxpl.mpga?1777400263","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3569.18857,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710903VCTR2-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19710903VCTR2 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Work Sex Money II - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Work, Sex, Money II, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, Vermont. This is Talk Six, given on September 3rd, 1971. This is a CTI auto-remaster made September 2025.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. seminar on Work, Sex, and Money, held at Tail of the Tiger in September 1971. This will be talk number six, September 3rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=0.0,44.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: PRE-TALK CHATTER]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aim it toward. [sound of microphone adjusting] Are you running your tape?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I'm running my tape. Or the machine's running.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What can we do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Forget it. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [Laughs] Yeah, then afterwards we can continue. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like some hesitation there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Definitely. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=44.0,103.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART ONE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat that we seems to build our whole situation with work, quite, in order to get to the next situation. But I hope that you're not disappointed by talking about money tonight.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Sound of a dog growling] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: One dissenter! That's only a dog's opinion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=103.0,165.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The money seem to be very concentrated subject. Particularly with the generation of people that involved with barter exchange and bargaining. I don't mean to say literally, but in the social sense; that nobody relate to other-- somebody else, because they got more money than they have, but somehow in terms of barter exchange of how much personalities they have, therefore relate with them; it's kind of barter exchange. \"How fat is your pig? Therefore I buy it.\" \"How much personalities this dog has? Therefore I'll exchange it with my insignificant cat.\" [Laughter] [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=165.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole thing based on the personality trip. I know that we have involved with that situation before, that our-- in our times in Colorado, that we had discussion on people who pay by leather goods and pipes, rather than money, in terms of seminars, or any other things necessary. And I bet-- I suppose-- I've been told that they also been doing the same thing paying their pediatrician. They paid by potteries, rather than money. And luckily that particular pediatrician be-- happens to be semi-Japanese and interested in the pottery, and she accepted. In other word, she's married to Japanese gentleman. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=254.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of course the barter exchange has been traditional in any medieval civilizations, until such thing as power structure begin to develop. Wherever there's less monarchy and less ruling authorities developed, any country, much more barter exchange being used. Whenever there's situation of more monarchy and a more systemized civilization developed, there's more money has developed. It is quite consistently developed that throughout history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=335.0,396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole situation is that, on the other hand, when the notion of barter exchange begin to develop into twentieth century, super-twentieth century country like the United States of America, that if somebody trying to use barter exchange, there had to be some reason to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=396.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why should they do such a thing? Can you give me any answer again? Rather than paying money, why there should be barter exchange?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=429.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LILLA KALMAN: It's-- I think it's hostility to all the types of relationships that have been developed under the aegis of money. That people use each other as things, as objects, and as things to own. It's a revulsion against the human relationships that develop, money is used for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=443.0,475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But still, barter exchange could be same thing, of discussing difference between the qualities of their merchandise which doesn't-- which would be worth more, worth less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=475.0,496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Isn't it sort of more direct? Instead of going through something more abstract, you take [INAUDIBLE]. Just so many--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well at the same time it's more suspicious because -- we bought a chair the other day, and this morning we had a long discussion when Jeremy [Hayward] came over; he suggested that the chair could be manufactured in the factory. And we spend a long, long time trying to compare the designs [laughter], whether they are manufactured, you know, repetitively. And we examined the screws that are underneath, whether they are rusted or not, you know. That kind of discussions could be involved. It inspires more and more paranoia, and more and more particular type of merchandise, you are expert on something that you're not expert on something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=496.0,573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche? I was-- I got a ride to the-- part way to the East coast from a fellow who just did some-- went to a horse trade-- trading convention. And there's all these people with horses and cattle and pigs and stuff, and they all had a barter thing. And this one fellow came there and he sold a shotgun for three pigs. And he didn't see them, he said, \"Are the pigs in good health?\" And he says, \"Sure.\" And so he went to get the pigs and they were guinea pigs. [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=573.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche? There seems as though there's much more human communication with the barter system than with the money system. You don't have to be involved at all, practically, with the money. You work from one job in one place that you don't care about necessarily, and you make money, and you just automatically buy things with it, and there's no-- there doesn't have to be hardly any dealing with it. Unless you're bargaining, which is not the usual situation, because most things you have to just buy, like in stores and stuff. But with the barter system, you have to-- you get into situations where you have to actually communicate with people. And it seems healthy in that respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=629.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, I think that one of the important things with the barter system, you don't have the entrepreneur, you don't have the whole management scene, and the worker is directly involved with the objects he's making. And this is not essential, I mean you could have the same thing going on with money but it-- that the money system has brought it about that most workers are not directly involved with the objects that they are producing. They're not involved with what's happening to those objects. I think that's the thing that is major-- make for that revulsion that Lilla was talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the barter exchange there's more room for conspiracy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. You could manufacture something very badly. And you could sell at a high price. Exactly what happens in handicraft stores.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well it happens in this system all the time. For instance they could make tires that would last the life of the car; they know perfectly well how to do this, but they don't do it. And millions of examples like that, because the economics of the system have nothing to do with the-- with any direct concern for the goods or the people who are consuming the goods.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So you think a money system is not worthwhile? And barter is more profitable?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well it's not realistic to do barter now, so I mean it's-- no I couldn't say that, it's not realistic [INAUDIBLE]. But there are many bad effects, which are not effects of the fact of money as such, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that seem to be lacking when we talk about barter system contains more human relationship, where in case of money it doesn't. That could be true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=676.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what about in the-- it seems the fault with the barter system is all the jobs that have to be done but don't really produce anything. Like disposing of garbage. When you dispose of the garbage, you don't have anything left where you barter with.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dispose the garbage.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dispose the garbage, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8?: Yeah. If you're working in the barter system and you're the garbage man, and you dispose of the garbage, you don't have anything left to barter with except the threat of not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure you'll find lots of things in the garbage pail. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=807.0,847.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But isn't barter system something like the-- what happened in the industrial revolution in England, where people who are suddenly deprived of their livelihood started to shatter, to wreck the machinery? It's not the thing, it's the way it's used, isn't it? I mean it's not very practicable to get back to barter system.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Well, that's what I'm trying to get at. It seem to be outdated, for one thing. But I mean we don't have to be up-to-date and swinging necessarily; if it works, that's okay. But somehow it doesn't work with psychology of the whole situation. That once we begin to present a barter system, then that doesn't mean to say just pure barter system at all. But that involves with the philosophy of something. That \"we hate money, therefore we do this way.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Doesn't it have a lot to do with our hate for work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, precisely, that's why this particular discussion is presented after work, rather than sex that where lot of people like to hear about it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=847.0,935.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You used the word \"green energy\" the other day, to describe money. Could you explain that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You could explain better than I do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, I've been trying to figure it out. Well, money provides a source of contact between every person in society. And because that's a point of contact, it's also about energy flowing, it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: And if you could use that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. What would you say, John?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: [Laughs] I've been sitting here thinking about it, that it relates to you know your article in \"Garuda\" on the Three Lords of Materialism. In that originally barter was a very simple system, and money was a complication of that system, you know, it was a more sophisticated version of the barter system. On-- but the-- now it seems to be going ironically in the reverse way, because I think that there's a large revulsion for money, in the sense that it represents materialism, you know, of our parents. Especially when the young you see, you know, this revulsion with money. And it's sort of a rejection of the ambition connected with materialism, and trying to make your life comfortable. Whereas the barter system is sort of, you know, going a sophisticated step further, into what you talked about as being spiritual materialism.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Which is a way to find-- you know, the ambition now is like much more sophisticated you were-- your mental environment. You create, you know-- barter is much supposedly simpler, which is a kind of ideological sophistication. So ironically by going to a simpler system you become more complicated. People are trying to get off on being simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=935.0,1072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well can't we do away with money altogether, barter altogether?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Barter or money, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yes, both of them. I mean, they're-- just that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Reducing to shells.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What? No, no. Well, he's using-- I mean, you know, society produces-- I mean there's a tremendous amount-- this way, there's a tremendous amount of waste, you know. People accumulate lots of money, you know, people who like to do that, and it doesn't really, you know, benefit society. [Laughter] And a lot of other people, you know, don't get any. I mean do– can it-- couldn't it just be that people, you know, people were-- people work, and they get what they need?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do they need? Loaf of bread--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --bottle of wine--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that they produce from the factory.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see the whole point is we're not talking about changing whole civilization. That we are talking about how we can adapt with the whole civilization, and try to interpret that whole pattern that is already developed into terms of usable, spiritually feasible. Physically or psychological feasible situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1072.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Binny?], say something, come on! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Come on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Well I think to do away with the-- with money and barter would just cause a lot of confusion, and chaos. That money as a form of exchange is really a very simple way of getting what you need to live with. [Unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] You want more? It's just a simple common denominator.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1159.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: There are people though who have worked out a system of money which would keep the flexibility of a money system but do away with the exploitive aspect of it. Is there no room for this kind of thing? Or is it too awkward, because you have to reform it say, from such a broad, you know, social way? But I mean, there are very sophisticated things worked out by some people who've spent their lifetimes concerned with this, you know. So should we not use that to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, the thing is that as we have-- as we are now, and tomorrow, the day after--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Yeah. So what do we do right now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do we do right now?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Okay. But it should work with that other aspect too, otherwise we'd never use any--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You might come to that conclusion later on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Yeah, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1212.0,1269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But isn't the main thing that our attitude toward money is one of the masks that we have. It's-- I think people shy away from money, because they hate the materialism that they were brought up in but that is still in them. It's their own-- it's a pretense: \"I don't like money, I don't want to have anything to do with it.\" But it is not really true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Karl, how would you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Really, it just doesn't seem to be much of a problem. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It doesn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Not really. I mean it's-- money seems to be very-- serve a very useful purpose. You do whatever work-- it gives you fantastic possibilities. There are all kinds of work to choose from to make money, to use in a way--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Make?\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Produce.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Produce [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: The idea of making. Acquire.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Oh, okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: And then it gives you all kinds of other possibilities of what to do with it. I mean it doesn't seem to be a big problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is a big problem with lot of people. That they refuse to deal with the money. You might say this is a very minority that-- for the time being at *this* moment. There is a pretense of being-- hundreds of numerous people involved with their trip of money is being dirty, terribly involved with the society, capitalism, power, aggression. People make fun of it-- at least-- it seems that money says we \"trust in God.\" [Laughter] Makes tremendous fun of that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: It doesn't say that anymore, they took it off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Did they? Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Yeah, they just put it on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: They just took--- they took it off the ten dollar bill, and the one dollar bill.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: It's on the coins.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: It's on the bigger money.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Leave it on the fifty and hundreds.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did they? I didn't see one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: The new bills don't have it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One dollar bills?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I just saw a ten dollar bill. Two tens: one had it and one didn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a tremendous step out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Take out your money folks, check it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Wow.[Laughter] AUDIENCE:[laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: It says it on all of the ones I got.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [chatter; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: You better hold on to that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1269.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well-- yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID SABLE: On the other hand, I think it al-- money also allows people to very easily numerically and quantitatively measure the value of things and services--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On the other hand? Which hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID SABLE: Just as a quantitative, of all the wonderful things that have been said about money so far.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The right hand or left hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID SABLE: This is the left hand. [Laughs; laughter] And it also provides people with an easy medium in which they can be jealous and possessive, and dependent. And provides them with excuses, in relating to other human beings; it provides them with excuses to manipulate, and control other people. And they say well a situation could arise say where someone depends on someone else for money. And the person who's controlling the money says, \"Well I don't have any holds on you, you can go and do what you want.\" That-- I guess I'm referring to a family situation where a younger person is depending upon a parent for money. And he says, \"Go ahead. Go out in the world, and be your own man.\" But the person knows that his whole source of money's cut off. So he's being manipulated and controlled, unless he has a way of making money out in the world. So money--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1496.0,1586.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you think you could explain what's happened with the-- when we had discussion up in Allenspark?\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Allenspark?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The-- whatever his name is.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: Conrad Treehouse. I haven't been thinking about him for a while.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: He's really a trip. What's the answer to the-- part of the community in Boulder is a group of people who for a long time have been very down on money. And they exist largely by barter. And then coming up against Trungpa Rinpoche, they've begun to become more practical, in the sense of, you know, thinking in terms of money again. Which is necessitated by the more complicated situation; they were living a simpler life before.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in Allenspark we had a community meeting where we were discussing the -- what was it exactly we were discussing?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: The restaurant.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: The restaurant and the townhouse. Both of which are very involved in money transactions. And there was a fellow from California named Conrad Tree, who for years just committed his life to stamping out money. [Laughs; laughter] He's you know sort of a, you might say pseudo-Marxist in his ideology, and he belongs to a free commune that has supposedly nothing to do with money. And so he was-- he listened to our conversation for quite a while, and finally he just exploded, he couldn't contain it anymore. And he began to talk about how money was the tool of being-- of people who exploit other people, and that you can very easily live without money.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd he aroused a great deal of aggression, because people reacted to him very strongly. And he kept taking it on and on and on and on and on, because he was *so* dogmatic about it. And very, you know-- he was living this epic. And he was sort of attacking the whole community; it was quite an undertaking. And finally he just gave up.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seemed that his main point was this, you know, this constant reference to ideology. That we could make a better world by eliminating money. And in fact he hadn't eliminated money at all. Rinpoche asked him questions like, \"Have you been on Social Security?\" And he said, very embarrassed, he said, \"Well, yes, until, you know, three months ago he was taking unemployment checks.\" And Rinpoche said, \"Where do you get your land?\" And someone gave it to them, you know. They didn't have to buy it, someone just laid it on them. It was constant compromise like that. And he kept sticking to this strong ideological position, in the face of a very down to earth practical problem that the whole community was facing. And it became very ludicrous; it was quite a situation. He gave-- he was a good foil [laughs], to the rest of the community. Foil. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1586.0,1771.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Isn't the anti-money attitude something that would sort of be cured by what you call making friends with yourself? That at--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --at this stage of the game we're afraid, I think, of that if we didn't have a need for-- that if we had all the money we wanted we might kind of go crazy. That we need it to ground us. That we love money so much, that we're sort of afraid that with a lot of it, we might quit being so spiritual.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibility, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: And on the other hand, money seems to be a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which hand? [Laughter] Left or right?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Both hands!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On this hand... go on. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Money is an extremely magnetic kind of thing. I mean, if you-- you either work at it constantly and get it, or else you make a lot of it and use it. And it seems that at this time, you know, 1971 or whatever, it really makes sense to getting into money, because-- and do something skillful with it, whatever that is, I mean, whatever. And because it seems to me it's going to collapse. I mean the energy-- pretty soon governments are going to get into the fact that the Earth is a whole sphere of energy and that it, you know, pretty-- well I mean pretty soon in the sense of maybe what, you know, ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty years. So like in our generation now, at our age, it seems really a chance to use money skillfully. But the-- it's a dakini because the thing-- it either goes along slowly or else it comes in a big rush, you know. And it-- and you get a lot of it and then you've got to do something with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1771.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody? Objections?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: When the last Whole Earth Catalog came out the -- I forget the guy's name, but the guy who started it [Stewart Brand] had all this money. And what he did was he got all the people together who contributed to a big convention on the West coast. And he said, \"Here's\" -- I forget what it was, sixty thousand dollars or so [$20,000] -- \"Here's sixty thousand dollars. Well, what are we going to do with it?\" And everybody thought, \"Oh, well here's an opportunity to do something skillful with sixty thousand dollars.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: And they couldn't figure out what to do with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: And they spent twelve hours deciding that they couldn't figure out what to do with the money. So they wound up, it was a few people took a little bit for personal needs like things for their farms and stuff, and the rest of it was just held. And they're going to come back next year and see if they've learned something about money. And I-- it seems to be that we treat money like a god and we think it's *so* powerful, that we can really do something with it, when we get it we want to make sure we do the right thing. I think--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds very stupid.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Yeah. But it seems how-- [laughter] it seems so-- that they were all-- they thought it was so powerful, that this was going to be the big thing. You know, sixty thousand dollars--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's because they have so much attitude on money.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's because they have so much attitude on money. Suddenly if you've been asked to be married to princess, you don't know what to do with it, whether you say yes or no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1908.0,1999.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Hasn't that always been true of rich people in the society? That money is treated symbolically, and it's not that they want to buy that much with the money -- you don't really enjoy spending money. But money is used just as a measure of personal worth. Like, \"I'm what I am because I have just accumulated [INAUDIBLE]. And if I want to be better I have to be [INAUDIBLE] and put it in a bank rather than can spend it.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that's sort of a millionaire's philosophy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Well, except that we've all been raised-- our parents tell us to get a good job, meaning get a job that pays you a certain amount of money. And that-- it's not that cut and dried. But that there is that [INAUDIBLE] at every level of society.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very limited it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Oh, I'm sorry, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs] Extremely limited.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1999.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: It seems to offer one a lot more power, those who work with. For instance, if you had to make a garden, and you only had a spade, pitchfork, to turn over with, you could turn over so much in a length of time. But if you have more power, like a tractor, can turn over a lot more.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: You could use that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, money could be used in a more constructive and creative way, of course. But that's not the mentality of billionaires. They're bewildered by the whole thing and dissatisfied with it. And then confused by it. So they don't know what to do with it. So they're stuck. As well as there are so many people approaching them, to them, to give money to them. So many charitable organizations or so many communities or so many situation, they prefer that they should-- money should be given. But they don't know whether they should give or whether they shouldn't give. Whole thing is confused by it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2059.0,2146.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: And it seems that you wake up or fall asleep, whatever it is in this world, and you confronted it once, with a material problem. Or maybe not at once, maybe later, I don't know exactly. But as I grew up, I always felt that it was nice to have big rooms rather than small rooms, and good food rather than bad food. And some leisure time, or something, I don't know what exactly; some kind of riches in the house so that the family could enjoy itself or I don't know what exactly. But it seemed-- and it seems like money is, for me was identified with this positive force which made it possible to have a good life. And from that point of view I still regarded that as good, that it's-- it seems to be good to live well. It doesn't seem to be anything the matter with that, I regard it as a very positive force. Rather than to have a certain amount of money, rather than to live with your face in the dust. It doesn't-- it seems to *really* make things claustrophobic under those conditions.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo my attitude towards money is still very much based on this idea that my father made a certain amount of money so it made it-- it made our family life have some kind of pleasure and space in it. So at the same time my father believed in God and on the dollar bill it says \"In God We Trust\" [laughs] and the whole thing seemed pretty solid. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2146.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Aren't you talking about security as well? I mean it seems to me the whole anti-money thing is an anti-security. And the thing you're talking about might be security. But I'm not sure what the security we need, but money can be seductive from that point of view. The only person who's ever told me that money was evil was my bank manager.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bankrupt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say bankrupt?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Bank manager.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. Bankman--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: That he told me that money was evil. He's the only person who's ever told me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did he sir?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: But I di--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's amazing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: --do think that a lot of the anti-money thing is an anti-security thing,\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Well I wasn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: --or an anti-spaciousness thing, you know, [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Yeah, I must admit-- The feeling that I always had related to money was, or-- I guess it all tied up with my family life, is that it wasn't related to security, as so much as it related to free-flow, to a feeling of wealth. Not, you know, that there was a lot of money but that there was-- that the flow was not towards need but towards, you know, bounty. A feeling of bountifulness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: I heard a theory one time -- I can't remember exactly where it's from -- that man never really started dwelling on himself or getting into himself at all until he discovered how to, at any time he wanted to, produce fire. Because this gave him the opportunity to sit back in his cave, and think. Seems to be a big problem we have. But anyway, it seems that money sort of offers that opportunity from [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2280.0,2407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How would you say, Kesang?\r\n\r\n\r\nKESANG TANIA LEONTOV: I don't see why money isn't more or less a neutral thing, that everybody lays a trip on. Do you want me to say that again? I mean it-- whatever, I mean it seems an organic evolution in society that there's a means of exchange like that. And then it's the sort of uses that one lays on it. I mean in itself it seems to have no intrinsic qualities at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: That's what feels funny about it, though because when you want to value something, you want to relate to it very directly it seems. And money is this kind of abstract symbol for value that it-- and especially when you kind of learn about how it works and that just the flow that makes it mean anything, and in fact that there's sort of nothing attached to it. That's why it was-- I mean it always seems to be hard to kind of relate value to it. Whereas something you've made or some-- you know, something... oh yeah-- something you might be able to barter with otherwise always seemed easier for me to attach value to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2407.0,2477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK PART TWO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well let's get down to something concrete, cement. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2477.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well it seems that whole money question is based on fundamentally or karmically that everybody has their own problem with money, as well as they have their problems with their parents, or their brother and sisters. It's a karmic situation with money. That whole thing is based on, somehow or other that people's neurotic attitude to their money situation, and they-- I don't think people particularly realize that karmic relationship with it at all, but they somehow or other relate with something's wrong, on the way. They begin to become very shy of it, embarrassed of it. So much so that people refer to money as \"bread.\" Just purely bread, \"How much bread do I owe you?\" Because money is too embarrassing. In French it's \"pain.\" [Speaking French] Pain. \"How much pain do I owe you?\" [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Here's my pain right there. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2494.0,2628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Way they refer to money as \"bread,\" [speaking French] pain, [speaking English] pain, is very sneaky. That people-- one would like to have synonyms for money as \"bread\" rather than present situation in society don't refer to sex, have another synonym they refer as sex. \"Fuck\" is just fuck. Straight language. But money is now no-no, just \"bread.\" Something more sacred; too much intimate. Something funny about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2628.0,2672.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That money is ultimately private parts, it seems, from their point of view. Really the private part. Nobody would say dollar at all, no -- \"bread.\" \"How much bread?\" It seems that particularly traditional young society wouldn't refer to money as money at all, would refer as bread. And somehow that whole basic kind of reference work automatically preven-- provides that money is been [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] something dirty, something *obscene*. Extremely obscene.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Whose point of view is this that you're presenting now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Our generation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: As a whole?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2672.0,2764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As whole. So to speak swinging and hip. [Laughter] And there's one particular area that hip doesn't become hippy, swinging. That's money area; you had to refer as bread. It seems that fundamentally money is very important, in spite of our obscene psychology or philosophical point of view. There had to be basic point of view, basic criteria, in terms of working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2764.0,2831.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also it allows tremendous discipline. That you can't con on anything else, or for barter exchange, or doing anything else, but purely make how much money a week, how much money a day, whole month. Whole thing is very set, patterned. So therefore that whole thing of society becomes really very much of a discipline process; that we have to work on it, work along with it. It seem that a certain amount of relationship with money is necessary, actually facing the whole problem of money as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2831.0,2886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Any objections, criticisms?\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: Well it doesn't seem that everybody, so-called hip and everything, is so afraid of the idea of money. In fact they seem to come to terms with it very much in order to live, because it's so much part of their daily scene, and they're not so completely stupid as that. That they regard money as money, and they say, \"Do you need any money?\" You know, they even, you know, use it as part of power games, where refer to it very directly as money. It doesn't seem quite so euphemistic, you know, they're not quite that afraid of facing it. I mean they may use it in a lot of funny ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: But there is a lot of guilt tied up with money. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm sure there a lot of guilt. That we'd rather not discuss money, and we discuss more of \"How much we can do for you? Let's forget about money.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nSHERAB CHODZIN MICHAEL KOHN: That's not my experience.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Yeah, not... That's not how this place is run. That's for sure. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: It's not how this place is run, I said, that's for sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's entirely different. This another chapter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2886.0,2986.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER38: Well it just seems that you're presenting a certain point of view as being like, where we're all coming from. And it seems that hardly anybody's coming from that point of view here, or at least that they're aware of.\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: I don't think that's true really. I mean, in terms of the impression that you might have about kind of the general attitude towards money that you run across here is one thing. But what you don't seem to pick up behind that is kind of the individual feelings that go along with translating that. I mean, I know for myself and a lot of the other people here who have had-- who have to deal with money, with, you know, how much people pay etc.. That it really *does* have that incredible quality of guilt, of uneasiness, of kind of sidling up to somebody without, you know, feeling terribly uneasy about being direct and saying, \"Well, I guess it's time we ought to talk about bread or-- \" You know, using all the euphemisms. I think that's very much present here as well. And I feel it in myself, and I see it in a lot of other people here who have to deal with money.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: It's a pretty expensive place, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: That's also true.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. In what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: People complain-- [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what sense? In what sense is expensive?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Oh just-- for seven dollars a day, I mean I don't think the food, you know, is matching-- it's not matching the expenses. The money must be going somewhere else. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. That's whole point this whole discussion come up, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER40: Oh I'm sure. And a hundred and eighty-five dollars for a nine-day seminar.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER41: It's ten.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Ten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=2986.0,3098.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: I don't think the people's uneasiness about money here is so much that they-- not because they dislike it so much. It's just they don't have it and they're wondering how they're going to be able to manage being here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then, there again, a lot of psychological problem. They don't want to make money and manufacture armaments. Or they don't want to make money in all sorts of situations. So their psychological relationship with money comes up again, very vividly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3098.0,3134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOHN BAKER: It's also more than that. I mean, I've dealt with people at seminars, and if someone doesn't have the money for a seminar, and you go up to them, you know, to try and work it out, it's a thousand times more touchy than if you were discov-- discussing, you know, who his latest lover was or... [laughter] You know, it's really delicate. It's the most delicate thing of running a seminar, is how you handle, you know, people with respect to money. If somebody comes along and says, \"Sure man, I'll pay for it,\" it's no problem. But, I mean, we ran the Colorado seminar last time, I'd estimate that less than a third of the people were paying, you know, the full rate. So we were talking with everybody, you know, dealing, you know, setting up, you know, \"Would you work in the kitchen? Could you work a little bit? Maybe you could send us a little money later?\" You know [laughs], that kind of trip. And it was inevitably, unbelievably uptight. I mean in some cases we went through amazing scenes. There was one guy who was violent and we just let him stay. [Laughs; laughter] You know, that makes-- it's really the most delicate part, I mean, there's really something there that gets people uptight.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: Well that may be true around the spiritual scene, but in the city where they're dealing with money every day in a very matter of fact way, it's not quite so touchy. It's so much a part of everyday life that it's very matter of fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3134.0,3215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER42: Well that's really interesting. I mean, in contrast, you know, it only comes up really strongly in the spiritual scene. [Laughter] That the spiritual scene is all supposed to be good, it's love and light, you know. But then when you got to talk about money, man, there's something corrupt in that. I mean, \"Who are you? You're teaching the dharma and you're going to ask me for bread?\" I mean I had a girl come up to me and say, \"Jesus Christ didn't take money, why does Rinpoche?\" you know. [Laughter] I mean, you know, money is filthy, and the dharma is pure. And you know, you talk to people about it and there's a real like cringe.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: But I think there is-- there are also people who think that the dharma is filthy and that money is pure. [Laughter] And that money is very -- I find money very-- the idea of money, of having money, or not having money is very closely tied in with survival, the idea of surviving. Which is even more fundamental than sex. And even more fundamental than power. That if this-- if Tail of the Tiger didn't have money it couldn't survive. When David was saying before about father telling his son or daughter to leave the home. \"We won't give you any more bread.\" When I think of that situation, when I thought of that situation, when I was living at home, I had a feeling of impending doom almost. Like, \"What can I do without money, I can't survive.\" It seems that basic to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that all?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER44: That's, that's all Rinpoche. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose we should continue our discussion tomorrow. It's such a big subject, it seems, that we could only cover part of it. We could discuss furthermore tomorrow. Depends on your nightmares [laughter], and your thoughts in bed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3215.0,3355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Could I say one thing before? I think the thing with the money, and in relation to a spiritual community, or some kind of like for instance spiritual guidance, are two things. One is the preconceived notions from--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Whispers] Fuck off.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: --a lot of the idiot books and psychic phenomena and stuff like that. That tell you that if somebody is charging you money for such and such a thing, then it's got-- then it's a game. Because he-- you know, spiritual things can't be sold and anybody trying to sell them is running a game. And the other thing was-- is that being brought up in this country where there's so many rip offs, like you really feel secure-- [unknown gesture or incident] [laughter] no really, seriously, you'd really feel secure. That's the most secure you could feel, is if somebody was going to teach you for nothing. Then it would put a lot of faith into that person, whereas if when they're charging you something there's always that little question in your mind, \"Is he really real, or is he just really been practicing for a long time?\" type of thing. You know, it's like a paranoia that you develop, I think socially from, you know, the place that we live in, you know. I think those two things have a lot to do with it. The uneasiness with money. It's not so much, you know, just that it's a spiritual community, it's the things behind it, you know, different things you read and stuff to that effect.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the same thing could be said that if you-- somebody asks, \"Do you have your parent's permission to come here, and do whole trip.\" If you don't regard money as all that easy thing, same thing could be said the same way. Or, \"Why'd you come here? What do you want to get out of this? What you have to give? Do you have anything to give? Because we had to give you, you must give something to us.\" That automatically you feel-- be, you know, ambivalent.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER45: Yeah, there's many different ways.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So money doesn't have to be money, but it had to be all sorts of situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3355.0,3489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93280/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well friends, [laughter] night is getting old.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER46: So are we.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So are we, relatively. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Or absolutely.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should end our gathering. People should have a good rest, so tomorrow they be up to listen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER47: Do you know any good Tibetan camp songs? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mount Everest is first stop. We can only provide dry meat and grain barley, that's all. Have good nightmares, of money. Maybe you find George Washington is walking out of dollar bill. [Laughter] He begin to haunt you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER48: The eye of the pyramid.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3489.0,3569.18857"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710903VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=1.0,3.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled\nWork, Sex, Money II,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3.99,10.165"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Karme\nCholing in Barnet, Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=10.165,14.23"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk Six,\ngiven on September 3rd, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=14.23,21.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI auto-remaster\nmade September 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=21.16,27.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=27.97,31.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on Work, Sex, and Money,\nheld at Tail of the Tiger\nin September 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=31.84,38.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be talk number six,\nSeptember 3rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=38.76,44.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aim it toward.\n[sound of microphone adjusting]\nAre you running your tape?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=44.33,48.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: I'm running my tape.\nOr the machine's running.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=48.35,55.257"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What can we do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=59.73,62.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Who?\nSPEAKER2: Forget it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=62.94,66.475"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we?\n[Laughs]\nSPEAKER1: What?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=66.475,69.69"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: [Laughs]\nYeah, then afterwards\nwe can continue.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=70.29,76.609"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds like some\nhesitation there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=78.73,81.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Definitely.\n[Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=81.49,84.294"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Somewhat that\nwe seems to build\nour whole situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=103.53,108.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with work, quite,\nin order to get to\nthe next 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Rinpoche.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3314.62,3320.671"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose\nwe should continue\nour discussion tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262#t=3324.77,3330.39"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/169614/file/308262/transcript/93281/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's such a big subject,\nit seems, that we could\nonly cover part of 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