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However in reality, mind does not exist, phenomenal world is not there, and we function on the level of nonexistence. Understanding there is nothing to understand is dharma, truth. When we stop looking for understanding, we stop trying to be, and experience desolation, loneliness, realization of no self, which is the beginning of dawn of enlightenment. This is shunyata or \"emptiness\" which can only be realized through sitting practice of meditation and vipashyana. We begin to express buddha nature, but life is still empty, lonely, with no reward from practicing meditation. The truth is this desolation and that a further dissolving process is necessary."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Meditation: The Way of the Buddha"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: MEDITATION: THE WAY OF THE BUDDHA\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK031\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Feb 15 2019 to Sep 22 2020 Transcribing: Warner Dick Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Travis May, Lynn Friedman Other Contributors:"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Mind is constantly functioning to prove its existence. However in reality, mind does not exist, phenomenal world is not there, and we function on the level of nonexistence. Understanding there is nothing to understand is dharma, truth. When we stop looking for understanding, we stop trying to be, and experience desolation, loneliness, realization of no self, which is the beginning of dawn of enlightenment. This is shunyata or \"emptiness\" which can only be realized through sitting practice of meditation and vipashyana. We begin to express buddha nature, but life is still empty, lonely, with no reward from practicing meditation. The truth is this desolation and that a further dissolving process is necessary."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=0.0,68.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we could follow up what we discussed the last time in the subject of awareness and mindfulness in connection with the thing we discussed about of the fourth moment. [SEE: Tibetan Buddhist Path Talk 11] Seem to be necessary for us to realize that some kind of understanding of our state of being, state of mind, in a very ordinary and a very simple, basic situation. That the mechanics of mind functions in the sense of basic existence, and also functions in the sense of basic fascination to prove one’s own existence. Those are the two basic situation that takes place: to reassure oneself that you exist, and then, also, reassure that your environment does exist, so you can exist at the same time. That seem to be the general process of function of mind. It is necessary to have some training to cut down the need for securing your situation by proving that environment exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=68.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, on the other hand, the whole thing is being that completely and truly, fully way of describing the state of mind; and, at this point, we could say quite safely, actually, that the mind doesn’t exist at all. It doesn’t exist. But, on the other hand, then what is this? That’s the precisely the point: what isn’t this? Or we have to work under that particular area in which that we could have some kind of comprehension, as to that even this doesn’t exist -- but that may be too advanced for us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=222.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before we get into that, we could discuss that *that* doesn’t exist -- the things around us doesn’t exist. Environment that we have created doesn’t exist. Because the environment is largely based on the assumption that you exist. That environment’s largely based on assumption that you can manipulate your world. That as if world is a flexible, yielding phenomena, that you can manipulate the world. And that’s the whole thing -- what’s known as *game* begin take place. That you have developed some understanding, some idea, as to that you could create this particular game by pretending that the phenomenal world does exist and you exist. And that is the problematic area that we have to look into it -- not so much to cut down the root, but trying to cut down the branches to begin with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=268.0,395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The basic sense of that you can hold on to something, that things are tangible. Not only tangible alone, but things could be manipulated constantly is becoming a enormous problem for us. That phenomenal world is not there -- actually it is not there [laughs; laughter] -- truly and fully it’s not there. Then you might say, \"What is there at all? What is-- why can you say that we’re-- that phenomenal world is not there? What’s-- why the negation at all?\" Well, we do not know. It is up to us explore that negation, rather than that you’ve been given package deal course study to prove that what you should understand is being purely presented comprehensively. But one has to look into that problem, that the problem has been raised. It is up to you. It is in your turn to look into that possibilities of the phenomenal world doesn’t exist and, moreover, if you want to be brave, or if you want to be more explicit and a complete or perfect that you don’t exist either. But that’s later -- that comes later. Maybe that’s too heavy a burden to discuss this point. But let us discuss the beginning, that the phenomenal world doesn’t exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=395.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why not? That’s it. Why not? Why did you say, \"Why?\" That we have to find out why we said \"Why?\" and who’s saying \"Why?\" and so forth. That there’s lot of conclusion that we can come to, which might be falsity, that you’re trying to come up to conclusions that trying to find out, trying to have easy way out. And all kinds of problems evolve there. But, however, it is worthwhile pursuit to relate with that particular situation by seeing that phenomenal world doesn’t exist, and that search that you be experimenting doesn’t exist. And you being the functioning on the level of non-existence. That is to say that there’s no territory. There’s no maker of the universe. There’s no functioning organism that takes care of you, or destroy you at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=510.0,602.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are talking this concept altogether in terms of phenomenological level, experiential level. And that is very important key point: that we are not talking in terms of existentialism at all -- we are talking purely phenomenological level, level that we could experience and we could explore ourselves, but not in existential level. That’s very important. And meditation practice is in the level of dealing with the phenomenological world, if there is any at all, in a very naive way. That you sit and practice as much as you can, and trying to find out if there’s anything to find out at all, and disciplining ourselves, if there’s anything to discipline ourselves at all. And, therefore, the whole question here is that you’re dancing the space, if there’s space at all. We say there is space. It is intangible and attributes of space is \"that\" and \"this,\" but we are talking about existence of space purely from the point of view of boundary, reference point, rather than the existence of space as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=602.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what we’re talking here is that we are trying to do impossible, trying to understand the impossibility. And is this complete nonsense? Maybe so. It doesn’t make any sense. Glad to hear that. We’ve been thrown back and forth so much in the world of reality, and phenomena, and world of emptiness, constantly, that we’re trying to make something out of it, which has become the crux of the matter and the problem itself. That we’ve been trying to find out meaning of life, and, \"What is me? Who am I?\" and, “What is this all about?\" Actually, there’s nothing that we can talk about, or explain in great detail, or even anything at all. That we do not know who we are, what we are -- what is all about is uncertain, not only uncertain, but it is non-existent. Why are we talking such nonsense? [laughter] That is the point. *Why*? I mean, why are we doing this? You and I are here sitting down, and we make a big deal about that. We have microphones, we have a sound systems, and you have a hall, and we trying talk about nonsense. [laughter] That is the point. [laughter] Actually, that is the point. [laughter] Why are we doing this? Why? [laughter] Even the question of should we do it, or shouldn’t we do it, is not applicable, but why we’re doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=701.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might find ourselves that, \"I can’t not help. I cannot help not doing this.\" That’s very rather feeble and somewhat strong logic, but it’s a feeble answer. On the other hand, you might say that, \"I’m like to find out why I am doing this.\" That’s also very feeble and very weak point. That why we’re here -- why we’re doing all this doesn’t have answer, or, for that matter, does not have any questions. That the questions are non-existence. It is true that if there is nothing at all, then how could there be questions at all? Nonsense, uncertainty, maybe confusion, sense of complete at lost. That we do not know why we’re here. We have no idea why we’re doing this at all, even if there’s anything to understand, and we have no idea who’s understanding this, for to begin with. So things become outrageously gibberish, nonsense, absolutely nonsense, and doesn’t make any sense. Absolutely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=844.0,963.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to begin with, this is contradictory statement, but I would like to say it still. I would like to make sure that you understand this [laughs, laughter] is that we are doing this because we have nothing to understand. I would like to make sure, hundred percent that, make sure that you understand [laughter] that we have nothing to understand. [laughter] I would like to take you that very seriously [laughter] and this is no-- by no means conman-ship and chickening out, or speaking gibberish at all. But this is a fact -- this is philosophy, doctrine, dharma, the truth, [laughter] and all the rest of it. [laughter] That our need face this fact, painfully deceptive or not, whatever. [laughter] That we are trying to understand that we have nothing to understand. That’s very important stepping stone to begin with. That is absolutely important. Otherwise, without that, we have no idea, at lost. [laughter] Whole thing is gone and lost [laughter] in a negative sense. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=963.0,1047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you understand that particular logic, particular positive statement, whatever, then you begin to feel the sense of environment, sense of totality. That sense of something’s lurking behind your intellect and intuition. That there is empty ground, empty space. Vacant space is hovering and wandering around your state of being, basically. That there *is* that vacant space is taking place. and if you like to look at closely to that vacant state, that what we’re trying to do is that we make sure that we don’t look for any understanding, any understandable situations. But we are just trying to *be*. Even not that-- even *that’s* bad way of putting it. We’re not trying to be *either*, because there’s nothing to *be*. Sorry about that. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1047.0,1119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that enormous vacuum, enormous space, enormous outward space that you begin to experience, that there is a dawn of enlightenment, just a dawn. The message says that sun is going to shine, because there is a little glow in the eastern hill. That is what’s known as, in the Buddhist tradition, as \"dawn of enlightenment.\" And the dawn of enlightenment cannot take place unless there’s sense of desolateness, and meaninglessness, and being fool to begin with. And then the dawn of enlightenment take place, actually takes place. Properly, you begin to experience-- traditional Western language is we might could say the Star of Bethlehem, whatever. There is birth of something’s taking place. There is a star up in the midnight sky, which is black, deep blue, but there’s a star shining. There’s a hope in the positive sense. There’s something’s taking place. Such thing cannot take place unless there’s nightfall, darkness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1119.0,1233.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And unless there is a sense of destined-- desolation that you cannot mend or correct anyway at all. That there’s a fantastic depression. In fact, we could call it a transcendental depression. It’s so powerful depression, even you can’t feel that you are depressed. [laughter] But you feel somewhat high on that non-existence, that rug is pulled under your feet. It’s complete vast and vacant experience. And when we talk about practice of meditation and awareness, we are talking, in terms of the practitioner, should be based on that particular experience of vacantness, non-existence -- that you have emotions, basic emotions of aggression, passion, fantasies of all kinds are taking place. But, however, those situations that take place in you are expressions of that particular dawn of enlightenment. It is mere dawn of enlightenment. That there is something’s taking place. That you could work with your awareness, and that point, state of awareness is very cool and very quiet, and, at the same time, it is very outstandingly bright, outstandingly outstanding. It’s *real*, that there is consciousness which comes up to us, that we could experience ourselves in that level. There is something that we could communicate ourselves. We have already understood that there’s no \"me,\" no \"self,\" no \"ground.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1233.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, however, non-existence with those begin to make some sense. That non-existence of \"self,\" \"ego,\" \"being,\" become Star of Bethlehem, dawn of enlightenment, begin take place. It’s real at that point, because unreality has created a reality at that point. It’s real experience. It’s true experience, true as far as we can relate with the truth. That we have-- since we have lost the truth, therefore, we could understand the truth from that point of view. That there is a sense of sadness that we have lost any kind of sense of grasping on anything at all, whole thing’s gone and lost. There’s nothing to hang onto, because of that sense of desolation, that sense of enigmatic qualities of dawn of enlightenment is taking place. That’s possible. That’s reality in the very solid, ordinary, businesslike sense. If you’d like to feel that [UNCLEAR: fine? funny?] you’re welcome. We don’t have to try to [UNCLEAR: treat?] on a different pedestal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1370.0,1457.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such experience is begin of what’s known as Buddhist tradition of experience of \"shunyata.\" \"Shunya\" means \"empty,\" \"ta\" means \"ness.\" Emptiness. And why we call emptiness by name is because of that there is whole thing’s empty, non-existence, therefore it does exist by itself. The basic point, in the particular, in the mahayana Buddhist type of practice is concerned is that there’s real sense of loneliness, aloneness, sense of desolation. Therefore, that you become enormous powerful hero, samurai. That’s the basic point. That’s why we refer this point, this particular experience, as shunyata experience, because that there is a sense of complete nothingness, complete nonsense, and doesn’t make any sense. Because doesn’t make any sense in the whole together, doesn’t mean anything at all. Therefore, *that is it*. Actually, there is point, but there isn’t point at the same time, and that becomes a very lonely discovery, extremely lonely discovery, and very sad, because that you can’t share with anybody. It’s *your* discovery in the most of your heart, and it’s-- [laughs] it’s so painful to discover that truth, that fundamental truth of non-existence and loneliness on the top of non-existence. It’s okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1457.0,1581.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you experience the truth of nonexistence, you begin to feel, \"Okay, if I don’t exist, if I could dissolve into some cosmic galaxy, then I don’t have feel individuality as myself.\" That’s kind of suicidal mentality, sort of attitude that we begin to take. And that is the one way of getting rid of that pain. But, if you are particularly interested, inspired into the path, then you begin to feel that, *that* non-existence is not quite *it*. There’s some kind of self-denial is involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1581.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then after that, you begin to realize that even dissolving whole ego mentality -- ego-hold, self existence, whatever -- then you begin discover another Star of David. There’s being coming out of darkness of complete desolateness, and there’s beautiful, wide-ranged desert. Doesn’t even grow trees or grasses. Complete open and complete, even desert. That in the middle of night in your being in the desert, you begin to see a star when you look up at the sky, which makes you more painful, because the star seem to say to you is that, \"Ha, ha! You’re in the desert. You’re helpless. And I’m up in the sky, and I’m doing okay, because I can float. But you can’t float. You are just end up on the solid on your ugly bottom, sitting in the desert being [laughter] yecch. Ha ha to you! [laughter] And don’t you see how-- don’t you see how ugly you are, how lonely you are, and how terrible you are, your state of being? That closest place you can make telephone calls is maybe hundred miles? [laughter] Can you walk? Oh, you can’t.\" And the star is begin to tell you some kind of message. *Truth*, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1620.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The sense of shunyata, from this point of view, is extremely desolate situation that can be only experienced in by sitting practice, going through vipashyana experience. And then you begin to realize the techniques that you’ve been hooked on to in vipashyana experience somehow doesn’t make any sense. They are further conman-ship at matter of fact, and you begin to realize that you can’t depend on anything at all, none whatsoever. You find yourself sitting on the meditation cushion and absolutely doing nothing, but that even doesn’t help. You try to rise above of those little domestic concerns, physical concerns of trying to make your practice best and good and take a philosophical view that, \"I’m going to attain enlightenment,\" whatever. But still you haven’t seen the experience of the dawn of enlightenment, and that dawn of enlightenment is a very desolate one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1764.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Once you begin to experience that, you begin to feel that universe is begin to segregate you from your existence, or other way around, whatever. That you become completely *ripped off*. They even don’t leave your heart or brain, and you have nothing to hang on to, but still they wouldn’t let you die. [laughter] It’s something’s holding onto, and that is what we call it in the Buddhist tradition is \"tathagatagarbha,\" \"buddha nature\" that is hanging onto, which is a brave and powerful state of existence which doesn’t want to give away anything. Although, it lost its reference point all over the place, down, up, here and there, right and left, hot or cold, happy or sad, whatever. That there is a something’s been-- everything’s been ripped off from where you exist, but still there is something is there which is so sad, somewhat. [laughs] Depends on your point of view, I suppose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1820.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But desolate and non-existence and lonesome. That is dawn of enlightenment, which is been made according to the scriptures and the books that is available to us. That everything’s juicy and colorful. That you begin to feel that as if you are out of your bar mitzvah or your college degree or something that people will give you, congratulate you with gold wristwatches or fountain pens or fat checks, or what have you. But somehow, at this point, that there’s nobody cares for you, even to present you with anything at all, except your own discovery that there is nothing exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1893.0,1943.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Therefore, that’s greatest gift maybe. When you think back later on maybe, but at the time, somehow this experience is very lonesome and very unreal. I think one of the problems that we face is that we have never experienced our true sense of loneliness. That when you don’t experience the true sense of aloneness -- loneliness, lonesomeness, whatever you like to call it -- that you begin to find entirely different prospect. That you begin to discover the whole cosmos, whole universe is so empty, absolutely empty. It’s utterly empty, and it doesn’t help you, doesn’t keep you company. It’s so much so, that it becomes a companionship. Is contradictory in some sense, but it is experience that you can feel that. That is what’s known as state of shunyata, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=1943.0,2013.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think it is important for you to understand and realize that there is-- what we are talking about throughout the practice of meditation is we are not talking about particularly getting better and getting enormous reward because you sat so much, you practice so much, you being truthful to the technique and everything. We’re not talking in terms of getting reward of anything at all, but we are talking in terms of *further* desolation, further dissolving process necessary. And it is absolutely important point, and that’s seem to be the issue, seem to be tonight anyway. Whether tomorrow, or the day after, or tonight after this is, I leave it up to you people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2013.0,2062.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, however, we should continue, and maybe in order to continue, that you could ask some questions if you like, and we could discuss and exchange. That if I should say too much, it becomes a further security, I suppose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2062.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: If all we have in store is further desolation, why do we keep sitting?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because of it. Precisely. We sit because we haven’t experienced ourselves. We sit because we haven’t experienced our desolation. We sit because we haven’t experienced enlightenment. And you have to sit until, at the end, you don’t have anybody any more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2122.0,2173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, assuming you do exist, [laughs] what-- where does the action of the bodhisattva come in? In this-- it seems that in-- at this time, practice only involves sitting and everything else is just [laughs] nothing then. It doesn’t seem there’s any purpose at all, at this point. There just doesn’t seem any room for the bodhisattva. I mean there’s a different-- there’s definite difference when you take the vow of the bodhisattva, isn’t there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, that seem to be the basic point, that when you take a vow of a bodhisattva, and then you have experience of that further desolation and further energy. That such desolation and such energy becomes part of your existence. That you have no particular project. Therefore, you become useful to society and sentient beings, and you just express yourself as far as you could, you can. It’s question of that you can’t be efficient. I mean, that’s general sense, that if you have-- if you really like to be efficient, you have to be egoless to be really efficient. Otherwise, that efficiency gets in the way, or egohood gets in the way, and compassion becomes a problem, rather than inspiration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2173.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: After or when one has experienced or confronted one’s aloneness, who’s left? Or what’s left? Who’s the one that’s [laughs] left alone? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that’s the-- that which non-existent. That which doesn’t exist. But, at the same time, we have to be very careful here. When we talk about \"that which doesn’t exist,\" which automatically by saying that \"that which doesn’t exist,\" conditioned by existence, because, therefore, you can exist, you can’t *not* exist. That there is the kind of flickering back and forth takes place, basically. But, fundamentally, that the person who’s experiencing whatever, is experience of non-existence, because there had to be too much boundary, too much scenery -- that experience cannot take place unless there is non-existence scenery, non-existence boundary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2315.0,2423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is there any such thing as grace in the Buddhist tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Patience. Forbearance. Exertion. Which brings a sense of dignity, which is precisely what grace means. Is that some kind of sense of sanity begin to enter into your system. From that point of view, Buddhist way of approaching the whole thing is very pragmatic, rather than mystical in terms of mystical schools of the theistic traditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2423.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Hello? Until I'm fully conscious, will I-- will there always be a teacher around, you know, inside my head, that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Until I’m fully aware, until I’m fully centered and fully always telling myself what to do right and doing it, [laughs] will there always be a teacher, you know, somewhere, even though I don’t see him, or I do but I just don’t, you know? Do you know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I’m not quite sure what you’re saying.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Do you have to have a teacher until you’re fully conscious? Is there always a teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think teacher is expression of your duality, obviously. That there’s you and the teacher. That until your notion of duality is completely fall apart, that you do need some teacher who’s very personal and individual, who behaves like you in some sense, shares your human need, and who also dwells under the sky, rather than above the sky.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2488.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, would you say that the hermit tradition of extensive retreat--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Hermit. Hermit tradition of extensive retreat practices is a dead tradition?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Hermit. Hermit.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh, hermit. I think that depends on that if a hermit becomes hundred percent hermit, that he goes into hermitage, and he died in it, he get buried in his hermitage cell, then he’s somewhat a nuisance to society. But if hermit goes to hermitage and take his retreat, and then he going to share his experience with others, then that become a contribution of sanity to society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2570.0,2648.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, is it important to read books and to study about shunyata? Or is it enough to just sit and do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. That’s the recommendation. I think you have to do both, because you have learn how to read book. In order to learn how to read a book, you have to experience what a book says so. So they both come together somewhat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2648.0,2701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When speaking about shunyata, you seem to be emphasizing the \"form is emptiness\" aspect, and you’ve touched upon that, in emptiness, there’s some form. But you haven’t said anything about form as form, and emptiness as emptiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you said it. [laughs; laughter] You saying the same thing all over.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Um...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sky is blue and blue is sky. Sky’s sky, and blue’s blue. [laughter] Saying the same thing. [applause; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2701.0,2772.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you speak of the non-existence of things, what existence is there to compare them with? And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Compare with?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah. When you speak of non-existence, what then exists to make it reasonable to speak of non-existence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [laughs] Well, because non-existence exists. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Is-- how's this different than the model of just speaking of the oneness of things? Say that non-existence \"is,\" or existence \"is,\" but either way, it’s \"one.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you have to prove by existence, you have to prove by one exists, because two exist, zero exist. Whereas, if you have experience of existence and non-existence, they both work together. And when we talk about \"oneness,\" we talk about a hundred million thousands billions and trillions, that we have introduced another issue. But if you talk about existence, non-existence, it’s just a life and death situation, and what’s could be beyond existence. There’s no serial numbers involved with that -- there’s no computers necessary to sort out the problems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck, sir. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2772.0,2865.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There’s lady over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there a correlation between shunyata and the fourth moment? [SEE Tibetan Buddhist Path Talk 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, fourth moment is a part of shunyata. And shunyata seem to be much more violent and more desolate experience of the fourth moment. The fourth moment is coincidental of some kind of a joke. Somebody reminds you what’s happening. But shunyata is actually *it*, which is that’s why it’s more frightening and more desolate and more devastating.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What is the fourth moment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You tell me. That’s it. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2865.0,2938.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There’s gentleman in red over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, like, the first few times I came here it was really great -- I thought I was getting something, I thought I was really understanding you. And the last few talks have been kind of painful. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nThe quality of non-existence -- could you say that although nothing exists, and it’s a sense of an absolute, there is a relationship between the non-existence? Who knows? [laughs; laughter] That maybe in a sense that like-- what you were saying about like we’re being here, like what we’ve come to understand, that maybe there’s no meaning in that, but there does exist some kind of meaningfulness in the relationship of us being here. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think we are beating the bush. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How about this? [laughs; laughter; applause] That out of the-- [laughs; laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeeeessss?   [draws out the \"yes\"]  [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Out of the quality of loneliness, or the fundamental quality of loneliness, within that-- or in that, is there some-- is something like a relationship with yourself born out of that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay, maybe--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: -- point. That you don’t exist, therefore you can’t even be lonely. Usually, when we talk about the superficial loneliness, is that you feel lonely, because you don’t have a companion or entertainment, things are too desolate. But this case when we talk about there’s consistent and continual knowing that exist in you, which means you begin to feel that you don’t exist. So anything else might try to entertain, play music, entertain you, give you food and shelter, and crack jokes around you, but still, that there’s a big hole inside you, which is-- which can’t contain anything. And that’s the basic loneliness that we are talking about, rather than purely situational loneliness. We are talking about bigger scale this point. That your stomach is-- has big hole. You can’t contain anything, your breath or your food. That everything goes through.\r\n\r\n\r\nGood luck, sir. Think about it. I think it’s important to look into that particular, fundamental loneliness is the basic point of understanding shunyata experience. But you know, don’t just abandon the idea, but just experience yourself, trying to find out how exist within your state of being. And it *does* exist in anybody’s-- everybody’s state of experience. It is possible. It does happen all the time, including animals. Doesn’t have to be human being, particularly. That sense of a big hole, that you can’t contain anything, that you’re trying to ride your horse, that horse doesn’t have a back. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2938.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: If we are totally alone, how do we take refuge in the Buddha?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because of it. Buddha was once a lonely person. He still is. That’s possible that you can identify with the Buddha, that he doesn’t exist and so do you. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=3211.0,3254.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, would you liken what seems to be going on to most of us in this room-- in this room, more to a dream, or to a vacuum? It-- you know? What kind of non-existence is it more like? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: More to dream?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"More to dream,\" did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yes, I said, would you liken it more to a dream, which seems very real to the dreamer until he wakes up, or to a vacuum, which just isn’t there at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think I prefer to be in the vacuum, [laughter] than--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I was afraid you’d say that. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that-- than to the dream. And we have too much dreams that been presented in the course of Naropa Institute’s program. [laughter] And there’s not enough vacuum [laughter] that’s been created in the programs of Naropa Institute. [laughter] And I’m glad you’re beginning to experience, appreciate that. Good luck, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=3254.0,3321.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39290/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We’re talking [laughs] about vacuum -- probably we should close at this point. [laughs; laughter] There’s some announcement I think need to be made, so please don’t leave, which might concerns you.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=3321.0,3383.68146"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740708VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA 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connection","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=111.48,119.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the thing we discussed\nabout of the fourth moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=119.52,127.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seem to be necessary\nfor us to 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And--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2775.6,2780.35"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Compare with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072#t=2780.35,2781.68"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76075/file/164072/transcript/39291/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: Yeah.\nWhen you speak of 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