{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/gx44q7s968/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-08-11: The True Meaning of Devotion: Talk 2: The Spiritual Friend"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-08-11"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Karme Choling, Barnet, Vermont, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/478/show\"\u003eThe True Meaning of Devotion\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: The Spiritual Friend"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Mahayana"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMeaning of devotion in the mahayana path. Relationship to a rescuer in hinayana evolves into communicating with a spiritual friend, or \"kalyanamitra.\" Also requires devotion to oneself with compassion and trust. Hopelessness in the positive sense of being without expectations. Surrendering as important in transition from relationship with rescuer to spiritual friend.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Heart of the Buddha","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Empowerment","SRCBOOK: 1999 Lineage and Devotion Sourcebook"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExcerpts from all four talks in seminar are edited into one article, published in:\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE HEART OF THE BUDDHA: Chapter 4: Devotion\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-heart-of-the-buddha-725.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE HEART OF THE BUDDHA) -- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: EMPOWERMENT (Vajradhatu Publications, out-of-print)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSRCBOOK: 1999 LINEAGE AND DEVOTION SOURCEBOOK (out-of-print)\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 04 2019 to Nov 18 2020 Transcribing: Mary Beth Kean Checking: Leandra Ziegler, Ella Milligan Final Proof: Matilda Perks Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMeaning of devotion in the mahayana path. Relationship to a rescuer in hinayana evolves into communicating with a spiritual friend, or \"kalyanamitra.\" Also requires devotion to oneself with compassion and trust. Hopelessness in the positive sense of being without expectations. Surrendering as important in transition from relationship with rescuer to spiritual friend.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled The True Meaning of Devotion, given at Karme Choling in Barnet, VT. This is talk two, given on August 11th, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster, made July 2020.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Following what we discussed this afternoon, that immediate rescuing situation which inspired the practitioner into a first step of devotion. And devotion on the basis of general need, basic need, rather than any particular logical conclusion in terms of intellect. Which brings to the second stage where that person is rescued already. That there is a sense of even resentment to the rescuer, in some part. That, to the extreme, that sometimes we feel that somebody is minding our business or undermined our dignity. Although at the time that you are helpless but when you regain your strength or hypocrisy, that such devotion tend to subside. And often people forget the kindness and generous and compassionate gestures that the rescuer had performed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=30.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that second stage of devotion is-- had to come from a sense of discovering a friend rather than a teacher. The hinayana's approach to devotion is very much of teacher, guru. And the mahayana's approach of devotion is relating to a friend. And it is known as the \"kalyanamitra,\" which means \"spiritual friend.\" And some sense of friendship had to be-- seem to be necessary. And that particular friend is also at the same time a heavy-handed friend who minds your business, nevertheless. But at the same time, this person is friend. So we could say the first part of the devotion of the hinayana approach is the \"patient and doctor\" relationship type. That you may not approve of such physician but that you have to have someone to cure you. And when you're recovered, you still might resentful of your physician.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=186.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next situation is a friend, spiritual friend,to whom that we should communicate. But in this case, reason why it is referred as a \"friend\" rather than \"master\" is that a sense of equal communication to the fact that you don't feel that you are wretched, stupid, unworthy person with a dirty vessel in which that you hope to receive the precious elixir of life as a potion of highly powered spiritual medicine. And if we have such attitude that we are completely inadequate, then what we receive should be also-- would be also inadequate because we are unable to hold it. So therefore, the very notion of equal relationship, eye-level relationship, is important. You are, up to a certain point, a worthy person and a capable person to receive such teaching. In other word, that there is a sense of one's own inspiration, insight, pain, neurosis, and all of those are included in your basic makeup as good vessel. That your neurosis and pain are not regarded as bad; or, for that matter, your particularly good qualities are regarded as extraordinarily good, but those things are the substance that the vessel is made out of. So there's a sense of *overall* trust in oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=301.0,448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the devotion at this point is not only devotion to the object of devotion alone, but a sense of devotion in *oneself*. That there is a certain amount of trust in oneself to begin with. In which case, trust means, at this point, a sense of warmth to oneself, compassion to oneself. In other word, absence of aggression, which is the bodhisattva path is absence of aggression -- which plays important part, extremely important part. In other word, our approach to ourselves, either too extremely arrogant or extremely negative, that both of those vessels are unsuitable. That arrogant student is like a pot or container turned upside down, and a depressed student is like container with holes in them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=448.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in any case, I'm not suggesting that before you receive teachings from a teacher -- make a relationship with a spiritual friend -- that we should become perfectly ideal person, which is asking impossible. But some glimpse of general attitude, occasional attitude; if there's a seeds of positive attitude to oneself, absence of arrogant pride, then there is possibilities of that your spiritual friend could communicate accordance with those glimpse of suitable situation that occurred in your state of being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=575.0,628.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So let's discuss them in detail, by an example. In terms of depression is concerned, that a sense of that you be unsuitable person to receive teaching, but nevertheless you have hope, tremendous hope about the whole thing. And when person enters into spiritual path, the traditional, conventional idea of spiritual path is to make yourself a good person without any fault, none whatsoever. So when you begin to find that you have faults of all kind, that you automatically feel that you've been-- your delay-- your journey's been delayed and your perfection has been challenged. So one begin to cut down oneself; that even willing to go through all kinds of disciplines, as to punish your body and punish your mind by imposing all kinds of rules, disciplines, inflicting pain on oneself. So far as to the asking possible magic that might cure your shortcomings. Since you can't handle yourself from a realistically, so one is asking for all kinds of magical cure. That seem to be we are falling into pitfall of spiritual materialism again. It's not question of that person receive-- before they receive teachings they should become absolutely ideal vessel as such, necessarily. But person should become a balanced vessel -- vessel with balanced state of being, state of mind. So the negative attitude to oneself is either one get extraordinary depressed about one's abilities to receive the teachings, and panicking all kinds of little happenings -- little disturbance that comes after to oneself, panicking them as bad news. That you have no hope. The problem here is judging oneself too much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=628.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other one is terms of arrogant student, who cannot have devotion, real devotion, is that person has received some glimpse of the teachings, somewhat basically cured -- of that preliminary sanity is developed in oneself. And then one is questioning oneself in terms of taking liberty, that, \"I can handle myself. I do not need friend to communicate.\" And one is trusting too much in one's own home-brewed potion; [laughs] trusting too much in homemade things. That you have built yourself up to this point, \"I have built myself up to this point. And I have achieved all kinds of things that I wanted to achieve. And I'm sure that I don't have to go through this embarrassment of even regarding somebody as my personal friend any more. I can get the appropriate books, or I can brew the appropriate medicine to cure myself.\" For example, I used to know a friend whose friend had decided to open his third eye. And he was a dentist and he has appropriate tools, and he [laughter] drill himself, literally, in the forehead, made a big-- little hole. And there wasn't eye behind the skulls. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=829.0,1004.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People do talk about particularly buddhism as being a \"do-it-yourself\" religion; and salvation is to yourself and nobody -- no help getting from outside, and no magic from that point of view. But in this point of view, it's not a question of asking external magical powers, or divine powers could influence you, but buddhism highly recommends that you *do* need external friend who might still say the same thing that \"do-it-yourself is the best way\", but you have to have someone to encourage you to do that. To show you that somebody else done it -- the friend himself that did it. And his previous friends of the lineage has done it as well. So you have to have some kind of *proof* to the point that this whole thing is not a gigantic hoax but it's a *real* thing. And somebody to pass on the message or the techniques and so forth. It's necessary to have external friend who is a human being [laughs; laughter], quite possibly with some basic understanding of your psychology -- even if friends doesn't have a complete understanding of your cultural differences or whatever -- but some understanding of you as a human being seem to be necessary, absolutely necessary. Otherwise, that we are unable to receive anything, any real teachings or real benefit. That we become a container turned upside down. We have no way of being generous, opening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1004.0,1148.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at the same point, that you might find it rather contradictory to this thing, to what I've been said-- saying already, is that there should be some sense of hopelessness. That devotion, real devotion can come about if there's a sense of real trust in oneself, complete trust in oneself. Complete trust in oneself. And also, at the same time, not becoming too ambitious -- because you have complete trust in yourself, therefore you can do anything you like -- but complete trust means just balanced state of trust in oneself, in one's whole being. That you are not subject to extreme neurosis; either condemning oneself or being absolutely arrogant. So that is the, just basic sanity, ordinary sanity, basic sanity. That is, in other word, a step towards being ordinary person, ordinary intelligent human being. And beyond that, that human being doesn't-- shouldn't become too ambitious in terms of building up his dreams or exercising out the-- that person's dream should be manufactured in a real world, which is recreating hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1148.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So sense of hopelessness play-- seem to play extremely important part here. But when we use the word \"hopeless\" we don't necessarily mean hopeless in the sense of desperation. But giving up hope in this case is not manufacturing further unnecessary expectations. So \"hopelessness\" equals to \"without expectations\", expecting that good fortunes will come to you. It's like inside of fortune cookies: possibly there will be chaos, possibly there is development, creativity. Those both situations are great possibility. But predominantly that you are not looking ahead, but you are looking direct in front of you rather than looking ahead in the distance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1271.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is the way of communicating with the spiritual friend, is the spiritual friend does not live as a future dream, like arranged marriage. But a spiritual friend lives right there in front of you, six inches away, right there. That's why a spiritual friend is referred as \"heavy-handed\"; minding-your-business person is good spiritual friend. Whereas, if spiritual friend is shy of himself or you then spiritual friend will be yard away from you -- either he's shy of you or himself, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1347.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The devotion to the spiritual friend is comparable to a sense of trust in *yourself*. The spiritual friend is act as a speedometer or mirror. That you bounce back to it, then that vision bounce back on you. And in fact in the mahayana tradition, you can't trod on the path of mahayana without a spiritual friend, absolutely not. Because you have to have the receive the good news of the bodhisattva's wide open path; that great bodhisattvas in the past who had achieved what they want to achieve and they have accomplished a great deal. And so that you are, as future bodhisattvas, also should know that teaching, that practice as real thing, rather than purely myth, purely level of blind faith, this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1407.0,1485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So sense of that one of the problems is that reason why we look for magic and miracles are that because we don't believe what we've been told -- we want to have some proof. And we are so *bored* living on this earth; we want to go out to the moon, or the Mars, or explore the other solar systems. That we find this place is too small, polluted or unclean. That seem to be the problem. That we have a problem of sense of unable to contain ourselves, and not able to appreciate the little things as much as the bigger things. Little things are as important as bigger things. That little relation that we are involved with -- spiritual friend who does not perform miracles, magics but who also brings the proof that that person, spiritual friend, is also belongs to a lineage of lines and lines of generations of people who had done something, and has *real proof* as an example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1485.0,1579.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's learning how to be a good baker; that your previous teachers in the art of bread making has baked their bread, and the message and information has been handed down, generations and generations. So your present teacher also bakes good bread and feeds you. The taste of good bread is made by the actual loaf of bread that he gives you as a sample is made by himself -- it wasn't nursed as antique pieces, handed down generations. But it is example of what freshness could be, as knowledge that handed down. So somehow we can make connections that generations in the past also made similar good bread. And that is a spiritual friend who has real living teaching. And you can relate with this person thoroughly and completely. Either not condemning yourself, or boost up your ego to relate with this person, but direct, simple, ordinary, simple and straightforward. That is devotion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1579.0,1678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then you begin to develop, instead of blind faith, some sense of *real* devotion, \"real faith,\" if you'd like to call it. Faith in the sense of that there *is* something happening; there is something that is workable, something that is fantastic. But at the same time not expecting anything extraordinary. The relationship of the spiritual friend is a day-to-day living situation, everyday communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1678.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a problem there with the first part of the devotion thing we discussed this early part of this morning-- this afternoon, and what we discussing now: is the-- how to build the gap from the being rescued to difference between rescuer to-- or doctor to a spiritual friend. I think in the case of a physician or rescuer, that there wasn't very much room to make friends because you already in the emergency room and you hardly even talk. And even you can't sign your own name, and your relatives or your friends have to sign name that this person is-- had to be operated. And at that point, there's no point in trying to talk to extreme-case person to make reasonable -- introducing doctor's name [laughter] or \"what's your name?\" There's no point in trying to be polite at that point. It's emergency situation. That you be thrust or pushed into that situation of, you go the operation, you performed-- gone through the operation and you had recovered from your sickness and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1714.0,1822.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there is possibilities that person who performed operation has further interest in you, because that person has learned great deal about you while performing the operation -- nature of your sickness and way of your state of being, state of mind and so forth. And that person is also liking you tremendously. And reason why you're resentful about that person is because that person is been taken interest in you after your initial recovery of for your emergency situations. You want to give away completely, you want to go away. You don't want to be intimidated by repeating your case history to you. And that's the level which is very difficult to click but actually absolutely necessary. It is unlike the ordinary medical practices in which that doctors could transfer their case history to you-- your case history to somebody else, and somebody else could take over if you have prolonged sickness. But in this case it is real -- real operation in the personal sense. That somebody who had-- that you happened to run into as emergency situation had to carry you out into a-- until real, fundamental basic sanity had developed completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1822.0,1921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, at that point, the sense of surrendering is very important. That your explosion -- that you had to show this physician your private parts and you're so ashamed of it afterwards. But still this physician is keeping calm and quiet and liking you, nevertheless how your private parts and your sickness may be -- how repulsive may be -- but this person is taking liking you. And at that point, sense of surrendering seem to be extremely important. That you have made greatest gift to your physician, is exposing yourself. So the relationship had to continue rather than jumping back and forth to different physicians. Seems nature of the operation and sickness is entirely different from the ordinary ones, ordinary conventional, ordinary medical situations, opposed to psychological situations, at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions on the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1921.0,2005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You mentioned ordinary or rather everyday communication -- how does that work in a case like this where you may speak to a student only once in six months or so? How does the communication go back and forth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you mean \"how\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What's the mechanics of the communication? I can see possibly how a student could communicate with you in your absence--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can?[laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --but I don't see -- in a sense of opening himself up -- but I don't see how it goes back and forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you think? Do you have any suggestions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I suggest you use a different word, other than \"everyday communication\", I-- cause I just don't see how it applies. TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Every-monthly\"? [laughter] \"Annual\"? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, I'm only-- a different word than \"communication\". I don't see what you're getting at in terms-- is there some, like, go-between? Is the, like, Tail of the Tiger as a living situation sort of act as catalyst for that so that it *does* go on in everyday life? TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, \"communication\" this case means *real* communication. Rather than communication in the sense of that you're talking me, I'm talking you, constantly non-stopping. And communication doesn't mean to say develop a big mouth. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, what does it mean then? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Communication needs also a time to communicate. That I'm not trying to justify that my business schedule has not permitted people to talk to. But it seems it is good and necessary that people have a sense of thinking out for themselves and relating to the situations and communicating to your teacher because then what you communicate becomes more worthwhile. You don't constantly communicate to your spiritual friend which days will be best day to have a haircut.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So then everyday kind of communication -- like a Zen master who lives with his ten students and he works and eats with them, has tea with them daily -- is a kind of hindrance to the communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends on who is student. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, say, ten people at random, for example. [laughter] Is one better than the other, or does it just depends on, like, a teacher's preference?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think a Zen master's relationship with his student in Japan is ideal. Because they have their teacher, their living situation not extraordinary, it's just a simple existence. But in this country, maybe we have a problem about that, even that, as well. And I can understand why Suzuki Roshi doesn't go up to Tassajara too often. I thought that was very wise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2005.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[START VIDEO NOT IN AUDIO] \r\nSPEAKER2: Where does devotion and dependence start? \r\n[END VIDEO NOT IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What are the qualities [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Independent? Did you say \"independence\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Dependence.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Dependence\", yeah. Dependence is addiction. And devotion is medical care. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2263.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But sometimes that leads to addiction though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Sometimes that leads to addiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, to a lot of people, that you have medical-- medicine because of-- for your health. And then at some point it becomes addictive. That you fail to relate with your body, and bodily metabolism doesn't fight against the sickness that you are subject to, and purely relies on the drugs that been imposed on you. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Still there, it’s still there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: What?]\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: He caught it. [laughter] Emergency situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2301.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It sounds as though you're warning on the one hand against the dangers of too much independence -- your example of the dentist who bored into his own forehead for his third eye -- and on the other hand warning against the dangers of too much dependence. Are you saying that devotion is-- must be, sort of, a *moderate* middle path between these two extremes, in relation to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think the question is if there's really strong relationship with the spiritual friend and that spiritual friend takes care of certain amount of it. But at the same time that person had to be prepared for, or spiritual friend might desert you at some point for your own good -- so should be prepared for it. Do you see what I mean? That it's not so much of that you are moderating and thinking about that all the time, but real communication with the spiritual friend is you're communicating to yourself at the same time. So there will be sense of expecting that relating with spiritual friend is not *eternal* relationship, but it is a relationship that exists within your own conditions. That, final object is that you become completely independent person; that you can function without anybody else to relate to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2366.0,2476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Couldn't that preparation for your, you know, standing on your own, develop almost into a, you know, paranoid attitude that would cut off communication to your spiritual friend? I mean, if you're always worrying about the rug being pulled out from under you or being dropped, so to speak, wouldn't that kind of make you over-cautious or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Being over-cautious is also depends on the security at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You trying to maintain something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, otherwise you can't be cautious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Because there's nothing to maintain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. So when you're being careful about the whole thing, which means you are securing when the rug is pulled under your feet that you don't make a big landing.[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2476.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Am I correct in interpreting what you're saying as similar to an analyst who goes through the woods with a patient and -- the patient's woods -- and really accompanies them and points the direction, that \"this might happen if you did this\", but doesn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Words\", did you say? \"Words\" or \"woods\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Woods. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Woods, trees, jungle? Mhmm. I'm sorry, you have to say it again. I didn't quite catch it, your analogy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Am I correct in interpreting, as similar to an analyst who goes through the patient's forest where the patient is lost, with the patient, and points possibilities of what might happen if they went this way or that way, but the patient has to choose their own way. But the analyst keeps the patient company--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's something more than that, actually, in the-- for the very fact that analyst and patient relationship are *business deal* in the conventional sense. That spiritual friend and student relationship is not entirely business deal. It's something more than that. That spiritual friend might show you the possible pitfalls of all kinds, but at the same time until you can handle yourself the spiritual friend will kidnap you, mind your business, so that you don't just completely do your own freestyle. So there is-- that's what I mean is \"minding your business\" is, that point is that there's some sense of more, more -- less business deal and more humane, if you [laughing] could say such a thing, could say such a thing. It's that spiritual friend is a semi-parent in some way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2532.0,2674.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well, the spiritual friend relationship that you’re talking about started out with a crisis situation. Is that necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that seem to be necessary, somewhat. I wouldn't say dramatically crisis situation but at least some kind of irregularity. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2674.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. In hospitals they have something they call \"the Intensive Care Unit.\" [laughter] When somebody actually comes in on an emergency, you give them twenty-four hour care of a very intense kind. And this sort of problem I think interests us who are trying to struggle with a feeble Dharmadhatu in some very practical level. Because we run up against the problem, of course, that for many of the people who come into the Dharmadhatu you exist, for one-- as one's teacher, on magnetic tape. And so, in a sense, you're not *there* intensively for the people who-- for the people who might be able to make a connection if you were. You know, I don't see that the answer to this problem -- it seems to be insoluble. But I'd like to know what you think about it. [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's a question of that if there is a *real* emergency situations, that that situation could be obviously beyond a time and space situation, you know. That time and space doesn't matter if there's a real oppressive situation of people really needing help. Whereas, if it's a second phase in which that you have to make yourself available to spiritual friend -- and that's in their own. So the-- basically the -- as a reference point for everybody is, Dharmadhatus started as secondary phase of devotion process and they are not regarded as a place for emergency room. That emergency rooms probably exist in here or Karma Dzong. And these places are recovery places -- they go back to their recuperation and they work on their own. [laughter] Or, I mean, we could have a retreat situation could be said as extensive care. And what had to be-- they had to willing to go it. [laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2704.0,2879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So, if somebody is really hungry for the dharma, you send them down here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, you bet.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you're here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean that's why we are here. That's why the location's been settled that way, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2879.0,2897.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: When you say that a healthy attitude is one of hopelessness without expectations, how do you work in the whole idea of dreams, of fantasy, of creativity, of taking new directions without expectations? How does that work with...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"New directions\", did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's a question of taking directions doesn't have to become you have to become futuristic. You could be right *there* and you could take new directions accordance what is *there* rather than what you might-- what might happen to you in the future terms. So, new direction is right there and it's a question of choosing the stepping-stones which will be obvious if you don't deceive yourself; or if you are highly complicated -- have a highly complicated mind -- then obviously that you are confused, but even *those* confusions could be worked out, terms of obvious, outstanding stepping-stones that there is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2897.0,2976.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, when you were talking about people having full trust in themselves, and you were talking about not having great expectations for the future, would you say that would be the same thing as humility? Full trust in yourself with humility?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, with dignity of some kind. You know, rather than just humility in the sense of a depressive level.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: No I just, I just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, but a sense of dignity, yeah. Definitely, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=2976.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: In Buddhist meditation, since you're constantly thrown back on your own self-reliance, sometimes a sort of bravado can develop, that you think you don't need any outside help. What's a good method of not falling into the trap of using meditation in the service of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's precisely the idea of spiritual materialism, is you're falling into spiritual materialism, this point-- that point. But if the meditation doesn't serve pleasurable situations for you, then, in the buddhist meditation throughout the practices developed throughout history, is that meditation tends to bring you out; your neurosis brings all out on the surface, constantly. So therefore, you begin to rediscover and rediscover and rediscover yourself constantly. And I don't see any problems with that. If-- the only other problem is that if meditation is purely a pleasurable situation that you should go into, that feeds you again and again, sort of seduction level, sedative level. Otherwise there's no problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3023.0,3116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: When you begin to become aware of yourself, perhaps through the idea of someone who is a mirror, the idea of dignity becomes difficult in that sense, to have dignity, because you always feel thrown back on who you are. That things become sort of painfully obvious, in that sense. And how is it possible to have dignity at that same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dignity when you are thrown back?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: When you can see that there's no way to do anything right, as it were, you know? And you can't do nothing at all--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see, that's the point. That's the whole point. That you *can* develop dignity at that point. It's because what's been happening, the chaotic situation that around you, are not particularly regarded as destructive situation but it is a challenging situation. Those are messages, those are the constant messages. You know, it's learning situation; like if you can't spell in first grade and teacher is correcting you, which doesn't mean to say that teacher is trying to destroy you. But teacher is trying to teach you something, so each word could be spelled properly. It's new challenge, new stepping stone, you know, rather that that messages saying, you know, that you are no good. I mean, that's very important attitude to take, is that any kind of challenge that comes up is a message because it's not predominantly destructive, but it's creative because it gives you opportunity to work on it, work with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So even though you're not necessarily enjoying it, you keep playing ball with it at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So to speak, Yeah. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3116.0,3257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Couldn't it get oppressive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Couldn't it get oppressive; the situation arise where you never seem to win the ball game? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that up to this point nobody's really tried properly as part of the path. So we do not know, really. So it's up to you to experiment with it and see what happens. But I doubt it will be absolutely boring. But on the other hand, it doesn't become really pleasurable as such, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3257.0,3289.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It *never* becomes pleasurable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well not necessarily. [laughter] I mean there's all possibilities. And the attitude we are taking tonight here seem to be rather extreme. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: It *could* become pleasurable?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be, oh, yeah. [laughter] Or it could become absolutely depressive, yeah. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3289.0,3317.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, getting back to the idea of everyday communication, wouldn't you admit that the idea of a spiritual friend with 5,000 followers [laughter] is a situation peculiar to the establishment of dharma in the West and not really an ideal situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry I didn't listen to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: A spiritual friend with 5,000 followers is something you don't see in India; or well, the guru-disciple relationship isn't something that generally is a situation involving a spiritual friend with 5,000 followers or whatever large number. At any rate, wouldn't you think that that is far from an ideal situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could be far from ideal situation, but also it depends on that the style of communication takes place. We can't give, you know, \"guru Maharij Ji's collecting millions of followers therefore he's unable to handle the whole thing\", or such like situation. We can't just block out by the-- we can't condemn according to newsreel, so to speak. But I think there is each situation has a unique way of dealing, handling the whole thing. So I think there is some workable situation. And that is to say that we are taking the example of Buddha; that he supposedly give discourse and something like 10,000 become arhats, and 12,000 become awakened, and 3,000 become this and that. [laughter] And there is that possibility of some personal something. I mean, we have to try, we have to see what happens. And there's no point in just simplifying everything into that heavy personal situation alone, which is, kind of, either creating psychodrama or encounter group with the guru, which seem to be the wrong approach as well, at the same time. So we have to see what happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3317.0,3478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: So when one is communicating with a spiritual friend, then one wants to-- does one want to just completely be oneself, and not put up any front or a facade of some kind? Is that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that seem to be it. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But it's easy to do that and kid oneself. That's not [UNCLEAR: simplifying? quite? ] [UNCLEAR: but?] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, then kidding oneself *is* a facade.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Sure, but I mean one doesn't realize that one is doing that sometimes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you create your own facade, which have to be operated out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Right. But one can't always see that facade.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but you have the mirror to show you that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3478.0,3539.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: The question that's been on my mind is: how does one put a stop to judging oneself? And you seem to be answering that by the subtle relationship that's nurtured between the rescued and the spiritual friend he establishes. Is that true? That's one part, and the other-- I mean is that what you're trying to say? Have I understood correctly? And secondly, is there any way that one person can be of help to another in ceasing the incessant self-judgement, either for positive or negative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You're asking two questions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Two parts, they're the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds both the same?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Well let's just call them two questions then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, okay. The first one is being?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: The first one? Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: The first one: how does one put a stop to judging oneself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, you don't. [laughter] Because if you're trying to do it, you're perpetuating it. So if you give in to the judgement, the judgement -- or \"the watcher\" as our term calls -- the watcher becomes insignificant if you disregard its importance. Whereas if you regard its importance then you're perpetuating it, you're feeding more. Second? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Can one person be of help to another who is trapped by self-judgement?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, again, it's very tricky, because if you're trying to help person boldly, bluntly, then that might perpetuate the other person's judgement at the same time. Because you are acting as not only his own judgement, but you are acting as a *spokesman* of his judgement as well at the same time, so, which perpetuates a great deal -- create further chaos. So ideal thing is, that, not making things black and white but fuzzy edge. I hope you know what that means. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3539.0,3682.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the judgement comes from too much precision. And there had to be some -- apart from the technicality -- there should be some improvisation. You know, that judgment could go as far as to the point of saying that, \"whole thing is black and white, and everything has their own places. And you shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that.\" And then you begin to watch yourself at the same time, while you're doing it, saying it. So whole thing becomes very complicated. You recreate your enemy. But, in other word, what I'm trying to say is the absence of aggression of some kind. And not trying to make-- if you're trying to help somebody, not put that person into ethical framework of reference, moralistic, but everything could be improvised, worked with, which I mean-- which what I mean was \"fuzzy edge\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3682.0,3762.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: When those millions of people, like, with guru Maharaj Ji seem to have taken refuge, you know, from some sense of emergency, and it sort of comes back to the question of blind devotion again, you know, just where the difference comes in or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not so sure whether the people who follow the guru Maharaj Ji are following -- they had emergency situation therefore they are following, but to me, it seems to be the emergency is started afterwards. [laughter] That first you were interested in, that you were just about to get into it. Then there's tremendous drama of emergency is started. And then you must run and, you know, you must get yourself into the right thing -- receive knowledge and so forth. And I think whole thing is it doesn't matter whether-- which comes first. But it seems that there is a sense of blind faith.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd one other particular point that comes up there is that you have no room to ask questions because questions are regarded as negative thing; that you are distrusting in the master. If question comes, that would be signs of evil. And that seem to be the problematic. And I don't know whether that was manufactured by guru Maharaj Ji himself or his mahatmas, or his subsidiary students. But not having room for question is putting people into a state of blind faith. That is condemning altogether Western's way of thinking -- which is absolutely important. Westerners are predominantly scientists and they should be allowed to go that way; they should have a scientific attitude. And you can't change West into East, you know, very easily. That seem to be the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: So is surrender possible if you keep that, you know, if you keep that kind of feeling that, you know, you must subject everything to scientific--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. Surrendering is possible; surrendering is *scientific*. It's surrendering to your dishes, that you have to wash them. It's very simple. If you have to eat your dinner, next time you must wash your dishes.[laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3762.0,3949.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: So, would you say that concept of blind faith is morphed by the, sort of, absence of prajnaparamita? I mean, no questions asked, no scientific involvement at all, it's just devotion without any prajna?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: --the basic difference between hinayana and mahayana?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, even that hinayana level, that the Buddha always encouraged to see suffering is starting point, inspiration. And the Buddha never said, \"There's no suffering.\" He said, \"There *is* suffering, is suffering is a *truth*\". So we have a scientific approach from that point of view. It's like studying problems rather than *product* of your research work. In order to do research work, to start with you have to study the problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3949.0,4022.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rinpoche, when you mentioned about rescuer in the earlier talk, there's lots of things that someone would want to be rescued from, like intensely lonely or whatever, but it seems most basically what someone wants to be rescued from is being unborn. But it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --Unborn?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Rescued from being unborn at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the level of fetus?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Yeah, I mean like an embryo on foot. [laughter] You're just sort of this unwit-- unconsciously courting parents.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's level of...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I was thinking a rescuer in that sense, like blind faith--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so. Well, I begin to appreciate your metaphor more, after a few seconds. [laughter; laughs] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It seems like, you know, when you have to be rescued or born [INAUDIBLE WORDS] in order to get back--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, no, rescue-- I'm not talking about abortion. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: I think he's talking about the death of the rebirth phenomenon.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It can be created and then destroyed [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah, I mean the point is that emergency situation is extremely simple, you know. That there is a sense of helplessness, sense of uncertainty, and sense of extraordinary emergency case; that you are sinking and sinking in the pit of darkness and you have to do something about it. You could call it \"embryonic state\" or whatever but it's very definite, extremely definite. It's fighting for death, and it could be extremely frightening, extremely frightening. And people could feel that they're losing their mind, and the horrors of being in a looney bin, and all kinds of things like that. It's particularly definite and obvious in North America than anywhere else, which is seem to be perfectly good ground to begin with hinayana approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems that spiritual development happened this country has gone the other way. When people begin to feel the desperation of tremendous sense of death, that the other extreme is presented -- that everything is going to be love and light and good. \"Think good, don't think bad. Think white, don't think black. And associate yourself with the birth rather than death.\" That seem to be the problem, that the pendulum has gone to the extreme other way. I'm not suggesting that pendulum should go the other way either, but it seem to be that there is that kind of tendency had developed, which is somewhat unfair. I feel somewhat that's taking advantage of people, because they feel so extreme to the other end, and somebody-- something in the other end present to them, they feel good, and *so* good. And then that you have no medium, middle path of anything -- that you'll constantly be swinged back and forth, helplessly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It seems like going one extreme to another and both those, like, being created then dying again, then it seems to be more of a-- the middle starts to-- it’s more of a balance sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the balance, there's no balance. But the balance, if we could say \"balance\", is balance is based on nowhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4022.0,4300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Could you say that that's possibly is the American delusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The American what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: The American delusion. The myth of happiness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean that's-- sure it's sort of Hollywood style of something -- that, lots of money and then suicide. [laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: It's the avoidance of acknowledging pain, as though it's almost shameful not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: --to be happy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure, Mhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4300.0,4333.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: What did you mean when you said that in time of real emergency, that it was beyond time and space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: You said that in a time of real emergency, like somebody at a Dharmadhatu that-- [laughter] that it was beyond time and space? That it could be dealt with, regardless of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't say time-- beyond time and space in that language. Maybe you could tell him what I said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Maybe you could tell him what *he* said. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: That's what you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: You said there's a sense in which the spiritual friend isn't tied it-- I don't think you said \"tied\" but is--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Bound.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: --is not relegated, is not [laughter] bound, subjugated, relegated -- who cares -- to time and space. I didn't understand you when you said it. [laughter] I would like to understand you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Time and space seem to be a sense of that's a very petty thing, actually. [laughter] And just the sense of time by the clock, and space by the dollars. People could come and sit here. They could come from Canada, they could come from Montreal, they could come from Boston, if they need extreme care. That's it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: So you didn't mean anything in the least bit magical. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. The Dharmadhatus are our second stage of practicing their life in the city. Whereas this place and Karma Dzong is intensive care place, if you look at that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4333.0,4462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: When-- maybe that's one of the reasons why the New York Dharmadhatu is always having a lot of problems in the way we think of ourselves. In that actually we're all really in the second stage, and we're dealing with ourselves and each other that way. But we're constantly thinking that we're supposed to be dealing with people who come to us for the first time who are in a first stage situation. And a lot of the problems seem to-- and now that you say it that way, that's a lot of the problem in that we've never really been very skillful at dealing with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, the second stage of what I mean is just in extreme case. But if you are in the second stage of bodhisattva's level of communication already, which you are, you *can* deal with the people who are shopping, people who are not able to get into serious matter. You can handle it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Well, that doesn't-- it seems as though the real problem is the people who *are* serious. They're not the shoppers. You know, there are some people who really need--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well then you show your examples, simply. If they are not satisfied, they need more intensive practice, then they could come here.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: So, in other words, intrinsically we can't satisfy them completely. Because they have to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They-- you can only satisfy them by your examples of your own behavior, your own sanity, whatever. Sure. And I have trust that you can do it. I'm sure you can do it. [laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4462.0,4572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66026/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Friends, it's getting late, and we should close our meeting. And so you can practice meditation tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's one thing I would like to announce is that we have usually in ten-day seminar situation we have extensive nyinthuns -- nyinthun happening in middle of the seminar. In this case, it is happened to be such short one so we are unable to do that, which I feel rather concerned it feels that slightly unfulfilled in many ways that you are unable to-- you aren’t-- you can't have a good experience of a whole day practice of meditation. So, I think if you could take part in the sitting practice that it happens in the mornings and evenings intensively, that would be extremely helpful.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we have to have develop some kind of sense of space and a sense of getting beyond a purely intellectual discussion *alone* -- some sense of being here. And I'm sure lot of you are here newly visited here -- first comers -- to see Tail of the Tiger and have encountered meditation practices. But I'm sure if you do a few hours of sitting it wouldn't hurt you. So tomorrow I hope to draw some intensive practices in the morning before the talk. If you can take part in the sitting practice, I feel extremely grateful. I feel that we have done complete work together, with the seminar and your sitting practice and everything so that whole thing is completed, rather than otherwise whole thing becomes just purely conference; and lots of talking, lots of thinking, but we don't create enough space. So I feel bad about that. Because when you go away from here, you have nothing left except chattering in your mind and that is very destructive. We have enough chattering mind already.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I hope that you will be able to take part in the sitting practice tomorrow intensively -- which I'm going to work together with the people in Tail to set up schedule of mini-nyinthun of something of that nature. So that will be great. So you're welcome. Hotly invited. [laughter] Thank you. See you tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4572.0,4760.68569"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730811VCTR2-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE:\nThis is the Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=1.07,3.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public seminar entitled\nThe True Meaning of Devotion,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=4.62,8.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Karme\nCholing in Barnet, VT.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=8.91,11.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk two,\ngiven on August 11th, 1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=12.99,19.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom remaster,\nmade July 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Excuse me?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3591.68,3594.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER18:\nThe first one: how does one\nput a stop to judging oneself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3594.16,3599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYeah. Well, you don't.\n[laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3599.0,3604.625"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because\nif you're trying to do it,\nyou're perpetuating it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048#t=3604.625,3606.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/127099/file/239048/transcript/66027/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you give in\nto the judgement,\nthe judgement 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