{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/h12v40ms7s/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-07-18: The Message of Milarepa: Talk 3: Renunciation"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-07-18"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Karme Choling, Barnet, Vermont, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/565/show\"\u003eMessage of Milarepa\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 3: Renunciation"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Tibetan Buddhist Lineage"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["About the revulsion of samsara leading to renunciation. Milarepa's letdown after achieving his goal of murdering his relatives is compared to the feeling of being incomplete after achieving external life goals. This sense of disappointment is the beginning point of renunciation. We become nauseous and claustrophobic from our ego-oriented ambition. Then our buddha nature begins to shine through, which inspires us to look for a teacher. Like Milarepa did, we also need to go through the process of searching for genuine dharma."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 4. One-Upmanship (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\nChapter 5. Disillusionment, Renunciation, and the Search for a Teacher  (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 25 2023 to Feb 19 2025\nTranscribing: Blaire Martin\nChecking: Ella Milligan\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About the revulsion of samsara leading to renunciation. Milarepa's letdown after achieving his goal of murdering his relatives is compared to the feeling of being incomplete after achieving external life goals. This sense of disappointment is the beginning point of renunciation. We become nauseous and claustrophobic from our ego-oriented ambition. Then our buddha nature begins to shine through, which inspires us to look for a teacher. Like Milarepa did, we also need to go through the process of searching for genuine dharma."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/364/small/thumbnail_267364_1741834466.jpg?1741834487","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1741834086_19730718VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3278.67733,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/364/small/thumbnail_267364_1741834466.jpg?1741834487","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/364/original/1741834086_19730718VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1741834115","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3278.67733,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730718VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730718VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Message Of Milarepa - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=0.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: ANNOUNCEMENTS]\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Is there any other questions about tomorrow? Betty, hurry.\r\n\r\n\r\nBETTY KING: Yes. I need quick-- I need childcare volunteers. Two for eight to ten, or any portion thereof. Ten to twelve?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Ten to twelve.\r\n\r\n\r\nBETTY KING: Okay, Michael and who else?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Oh, volunteers for tomorrow?\r\n\r\n\r\nBETTY KING: One for twelve to two. Well, that's okay, parents will be there then. And I need three for five to seven, or one of those hours. Two more. Okay. And one more. Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nKARL SPRINGER: Okay, well let's get started. And if you have any other questions, just ask them later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=20.0,261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What we have discussed yesterday about the basic twist and ego’s game in identifying ourselves with Milarepa’s early life, his ambitions, and everything. There seem to be a different slant, beyond that level of basic twist. In Milarepa’s life, there is a sense of the basic twist has a certain game and goal, which is familiar, and the purpose is fulfilled. And then there is a big gap of what to do next, a sense of desolation. You have achieved in your short goal of destroying your relatives, and able to deceive other people, and able to achieve the small ambition. And then, what happens next?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=261.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is comparable to that our ordinary life situation today. It's like you want to create a comfortable environment, luxurious home, collect good friends, and educate yourself to the highest level. And then something happens, and we have achieved all these things what we want. Then there’s nothing beyond it. That run away from home and becoming rebellious person. It’s not only expression of freedom, or for that matter, being a successful rich person and able to lead your life successfully, or closer to your want. That somehow, still, something doesn’t quite work. And there’s a sense of let down, that point. That all your dreams begin to realize as just purely dreams, rather than has any particular pragmatic value. Sort of fantasy after fantasies of all kinds begin to develop. And these fantasies are purely expression of confused ambition, rather than carefully planned on solid ground.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=349.0,477.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that kind of sense of let down seem to play a very important part. Is turning ourselves into phase two, so to speak. That we can-- we are able to do physically as much as possible what we want. In physical situation, all that we could-- we have exercise freedom to ourselves as far as we could. But beyond that, there is something, it’s still sense of not being complete, not being ideally appreciative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=477.0,548.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sense of let down is the beginning point of renunciation, we could say. Tibetan word for renunciation is \"shenlok\", which means literally, \"state of being--\" what you call? \"--nausea, feel sick\". That you had same thing all over again and to the point of being sick. And if somebody mentions even name of such thing, you feel nauseating. That shenlok, this case, is result of exercising too much freedom to ourselves. Our ego has too much freedom, and it does not fulfill our purpose, what we wanted to be fulfilled. That we been spinning around in samsaric whirlpool and finally getting dizzy and helpless. And if you go too far, and if you repeat too many times, that possibilities of completely losing track of-- keeping track of sanity, to the point of breakdown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=548.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the renunciation is you have a personal experience. These experience in life is fruitless -- one game after another game and it does not fulfill any fundamental purposes at all. The point of renunciation, at the beginning, is somewhat sense of rediscovering our own unpleasantness. Particularly when we’re trying to launch into any particular project, trying to save ourselves from that embarrassment to ourselves, or discomfort to ourselves. That makes you nauseous-- nauseating. That we are, \"Here we go again. And I’m just about to throw up. I can’t get onto that track again and again.\" There’s a sense of more than boredom with ourselves. It’s that we realize our repetition as something terribly claustrophobic and sickening in many ways. Like when you feel sick, you might go out and breathe fresh air. Similar kind of analogy, that there is a sense of claustrophobia, you want to step out and breathe fresh air, just to change the subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=654.0,774.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So at the beginning there is a sense of imprisonment, which inspires the sense of renunciation at the beginning. And that was the state of mind of Milarepa at the time. When he achieved what he was supposed to be achieving, and then he felt tremendous letdown. He can’t even practice his black magic as business adventure [ed: venture?], and nobody would employ him. To be afraid that in case that if you are on the wrong side of him, as employer, that the employee would destroy the employer, so it’s very dangerous. And also the family problem at the time of Milarepa is a rich man’s game. And there aren’t that many rich people, so there’s less fight for properties and rich and wealth. People are fairly satisfied with the frugality they have. And there’s sense of letdown, a sense of desolation, that embarrassment that you are murderer of ten people, eighteen people supposedly. That now you have become famous in the whole valley. In Milarepa’s case, that he is the black magician who murdered eighteen relatives, and he’s been something awful and people don’t speak [to him]. Yet there’s no material gain after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=774.0,915.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sense of desolation and sense of that something is slightly twisted in the other way around. That destroying these people was supposed to bring happiness to him. Instead that he achieved further pain of rejection by the society as a murderer by magic, rather than the traditional conventional style of a bandit, which has a different kind of classification, altogether. And bandits are regarded as a trade of their own. They belong to a certain society, social categories. But as far as black magicians, there’s no club for them, there’s no social category. You just stand out on your own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=915.0,983.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in a sense that what we have achieved our own satisfaction of our own ego. Exercising freedom to ourselves of extremely involved with the drugs, or extremely involved with the money-making scene, or extremely involved with whatever that we feel that would justify our existence. It does not have to be the-- those methods aren't particularly, we don’t have to categorize as being-- belongs to the right wing or the left wing or whatever, the underground or the establishment. It does not matter at all. The style we do it, exercise our independence, and trying to achieve something, trying to prove something to ourselves. And we finally achieve it some way or other, even partially we achieve it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=983.0,1042.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is equal to black magic of Milarepa. Although we are not particularly murderers or thieves in the conventional sense, but the subtleties could be questionable, at the same time. [Laughs] We could have been if we are extremely ego state of something, extreme hundred-percent egohood, one way or another. That we must have been extremely aggressive or extremely passionate -- the classifications of murderers and robbers in the fundamental sense. That we’ve got to be one of them in the subtle sense. Probably it’s too subtle that in the law of the locality, or the government law and rule, regulation cannot even pick up such subtleties. And seem to be only a karmic situation will pick up that subtlety.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1042.0,1141.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that we should become-- or we have to become criminals from that point of view before we realize that we be completely let down. And also we have to realize that complete sense of nausea can be only discovered by realizing some extreme; otherwise, we can’t be nauseated. Some sense of disgusted with ourselves, something. That’s the starting point to realize renunciation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1141.0,1202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And renunciation then leads us into another kind of ambition, which is still ego-oriented of course naturally; but at the same time, there is renunciation connected with a faint hope, faint possibilities that something might turn out to be okay. But there is mixture of ego’s ambition and sense of one’s buddha nature shining through plays simultaneously together, beyond the nauseation. And that seem to be starting point of searching for teaching through teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1202.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Milarepa’s case, that he has gone to numerous people, and trying to find a way of developing himself from that lost-- rediscovering himself somewhere, searching for the dharma. And his searching for the dharma is largely trying out which one works best. In order to do that, you have to at least spend some time. And he’s being involved into that kind of search, which is could be also applicable to us in our own state of being. Is that when we feel that we be let down by our ambition in life, and we feel embarrassed about being such criminals, then we try to find some better way of getting into a better, more spiritual, sane approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1273.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And our shopping trip begins to happen, that point. Which is also part of the-- integral part of the development that one has to go through. That being a professional dilettante seem to be necessary. If one is too serious with oneself, and you are not going to be dilettante, then quite possibly you might end up buying the wrong thing. It’s like you go to buying trip, that if you are fascinated by one object when you come to first shop and you buy it, then you don’t have any more money to spend on. And you see better and cheaper and more valuable things at next shop, but you-- it’s too bad you are stuck with that stuff you already bought at the beginning. So therefore, in order to save sanity and energy and money, that to begin with it had to be dilettante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1355.0,1427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Milarepa’s fashion, he visited that place, this place with halfhearted and somewhat interested open-mindedness. Which seem to be that as we look at own history, that we have gone through the same kind of process. We’ve been criminals, we’ve been dilettante, and we are just about to get into somewhere. Which is also uncertain, but had to be some kind of penetrating message had to come to us. That is discussing about Milarepa’s meeting with Marpa, which we’ll discuss day after tomorrow.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we should stop at that point today. And if you like to have any discussion, questions concerning with that, we could get to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1427.0,1480.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, I know you talked about passion and aggression, but I always get stuck with the word \"passion.\" Could you say a little about the quality of passion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You say you’re stuck with the passion? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I get stuck with the word \"passion.\" It sounds-- I always-- it always evokes for me just the idea of intense feeling or intense emotion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, passion is-- one could say passion is state of intense loneliness. That you would like to bring something to occupy yourself, keep yourself company. And you find that the object of passion has something to offer to you, to keep you in company. Looking for ultimate babysitter. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1480.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, it seems that when one is really feeling one’s pain, one opens oneself up to one’s neuroses and one starts working with it. And then somehow we create a comfortable situation, or get to a point where we’re not-- we’ve stopped working on neurosis. It somehow gets comfortable. And then all of a sudden we find ourselves again opening up to one’s pain. What can we do to sort of still feel inspired to work with ourselves when somehow we feel comfortable again or not as open to our pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well seem to be basic point is that if we look for comfortable situation, then we are working towards situation in which that we could prevent further search, is being the comfortable situation. Whereas if we are still willing to live with the discomfort, is exploring situation. And the point here is not seek comfort particularly, but willing to work with discomfort.\r\n\r\n\r\nDiscomfort means a very intelligent approach to a thing, like if you are sleeping in the tent, rainy night, and you find that bottom of your bed is soaking wet, and you begin to feel that there’s water coming up to me, which is an intelligent thing to feel. [laughter] And then you feel leak on the top, and you know that there is a hole in the tent or something. I mean, those are very intelligent logical discovery. Whereas if you are in an air conditioned place somewhere, that you can’t even feel the hot or cold, and the whole thing becomes immune to it and you have no feeling, no sensations. You are completely hypnotized by your comfort. So you have no way of using your intelligence.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo discomfort is therefore regarded as renewing our inspirations of intelligence to work with ourselves, to begin with. And in most cases that even when we have managed to achieve a temporary comfortable situation, but we have to maintain that, and something else come up and start chaos. So therefore, as long as you don’t regard them as attack or sort of that you are going the wrong direction, if you relate them as real and leading life and real message, then we are at least able to work with that discomfort.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1570.0,1759.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Rinpoche, using that analogy, it seems a bit confusing, because perhaps you feel there’s water coming up, there's water coming down on you, and you look -- about five feet away, there's an empty space; it's nice and dry. It seems almost that it would be an intelligent thing to move your sleeping bag, so you don't get soaked and come down with pneumonia, et cetera, et cetera, instead of staying in the water and dealing with the discomfort.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, you could. But then that place does not mean the ultimate comfort either. You find further-- you might dream of a better place. When you begin to relax and then settle down, you find there's stone underneath your bed. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1759.0,1818.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Sometimes, though, you do something you always wanted to do and found that you really do feel satisfied. Is this a block [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say-- you know, I wouldn't say that you have to inflict pain on yourself constantly. I don't mean that. But I mean that if you don't regard the discomfort as an intruder into process of your life, if you regard the discomfort as part of the message *of* the comfort. When you like doing something, you feel highly satisfied, you had a good meal or something, had a good rest. That's fine but, you know, that's just momentary thing. And that doesn't last all the time. So that comfort has to have some kind of boundary, which is discomfort. So as long as you're willing to relate with the discomfort, rather than you inflict pain on yourself -- that's the opposite point. I mean, that's just very simple-minded approach at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1818.0,1879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: There’s some confusion I have about the value of resisting getting into trips. Some temptation might come up to, you know, indulge in some kind of, you know, maybe a very abstract intellectual discussion or something that would go nowhere, in the sense of some shit that you want to get into and you can see that it would be useless, and it would just increase the confusion and sort of not really get anywhere, but the temptation is really strong. And I can never figure out if it’s worthwhile to resist it, or just go ahead and go into it and experience the discomfort that’s going to come out of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don’t see any problems of getting into it, because that, I suppose there are certain limitations how far you can experiment yourself. For instance, you can’t experiment with death. You know, because you can’t come back and say that was rehearsal. [Laughter] But apart from that, lot of experience that do happen, and I think they should be open-minded, rather than that you are committing yourself into a sinful action or whatever. You know, I mean, the caution makes problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Caution makes problem. That being cautious is good in some way, but at the same time it can act as blockage. So in other word, not relying on secondhand stories, but, you know, firsthand encounter is always best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1879.0,1970.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You talked about Milarepa’s renunciation, or renunciation that comes from a sense of nausea. Is it the same renunciation that might come from a sense of great disappointment, or great, you know, sort of a bitter disappointment? Rather than having had all you want and being nauseated by it, a disappointment that you couldn’t have what you wanted, or that things weren’t what you wanted. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, that's saying the same thing. Even if you had everything, disappointed by it, that means that you couldn’t extend that achievement forever. There’s a big drop. So that is finally, by saying, you know, same thing, as that you are-- you don’t have enough, you feel nauseated by it. Yeah, that’s disappointment, that’s saying the same thing. In other word, you can’t have everything absolutely ideally. And the more you regard that your achievement is richness, that there is that much poverty involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=1970.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Even enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, enlightenment is supposedly unconditional. That it has no reference point. No ego, therefore there is no reference point. So you can’t regard enlightenment as pleasurable or painful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So it’s not an ultimate comfort because it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, because there's no notion of ultimate. Because there’s no notion of relative, so there’s no notion of ultimate.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So enlightenment is something quite a different kettle of fish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2038.0,2086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I didn’t really understand what you mean by the subtle criminality that we all have.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you bothered by that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I'm intrigued by it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You’re intrigued, huh [Laughter] Well, it’s a question of the regular law and disciplinary books cannot catch you. I mean, it would be too easy if there's such thing. That if you did that, that’s wrong; if you did this, that’s right. But there's subtleties of that in which that no external means can catch you.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut there is internal organization of criminal-like happenings which is ego’s function. You know, I mean, ego from the point of view of non-ego, that existence of ego is unlawful altogether. That samsara is unlawful setup. Punishable or destructible, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2086.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is the punishment then our karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Punishment is to cease to exist in its own entity. The punishment is karma which is also depend on the ego, which is even the lawmaker itself should be destroyed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry? Did somebody say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I just thought that if all ego was destroyed, that we should all stop existing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s what would you think.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: That’s what you suggest?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that what I didn’t suggest. But that’s what *you* might think.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] you said that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In other word, we could say, purpose of life is not just purely maintain our ego. There are some other purposes. So ego isn’t everything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, there’s no hope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2181.0,2249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: So if the lawmaker is destroyed, then there’s no need for the police officer either, at this point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, there’s necessary for to have police officer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: To enforce the non-existent law?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, to destroy the existent law. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2249.0,2278.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I like the idea of when you said samsaric whirlpool?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It was the idea that as you sort of, it would seem that you’re on an ocean by accident, yet got involved with this thing, and you start to get nauseated. The only way you have of, like, protecting yourself is to throw yourself overboard to keep from sinking as it were. As you go faster and faster, you have to-- you can carry less and less around with you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that’s very difficult to do, because if you’re already in the mercy of that force, that’s very difficult to do, trying to get out of it. And only way is that, you know, not making big deal of it is the only way, seems to be only way. Rather than trying to get out of it, making more big deal of it, therefore you want to get out of it, and you be frustrated, you’re unable to get out of it. Whereas if you disregard its importance, then become a big joke.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Then you wouldn’t, like, be cornered like you were talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I shouldn’t say too much about that.[laughs] No hopeful suggestions, [laughter] how to come back.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Supposed to be firsthand experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2278.0,2387.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is that how you would relate renunciation to earning money, like to [INAUDIBLE] your attention to it? Like when you arrive at the point of renunciation, how do you get out of the circle? Just you have to earn money or something [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah. Earning money is not regarded as either involvement with the world or involvement with renunciation particularly. It’s something neutral. And it’s part of your breath, part of your heartbeat, because you need shelter and food. And that’s another kind of livelihood, which doesn’t have anything to do with belong to either of those things. But it has something to do with continuing, continual search from the samsaric entrapment into furthering one’s sanity. There’s some continuity. So any kind of livelihood to maintain one’s existence, physical existence, is the thread that runs through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: So you’d get into to the subtleties of the nature of the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, earning money is not regarded as a criminal thing. But the having ego is regarded as criminal thing. That’s differences. That we equate ego and money and livelihood are one lump, very confusing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2387.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: With the same one-pointedness that you bring to your meditation, you could bring to making money, couldn’t you? And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Meditation, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: With the same one-pointedness of mind that you bring to your meditation, you could bring to making money. And one would help the other. It would be sort of a complement. Because you would still be-- find that intensity that you talked about yesterday -- that intensity that Milarepa used in his black magic, for example -- you could bring that to whatever activity you're doing, including making money.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Intensity?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: His ego thing, do you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No, I’m saying that if you apply that intensity to making money and to your meditation as well, one would help the other. It could be a great stimulation to both activities.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In what sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: In the sense that you’re always working at your peak of concentration.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, what kind of peak?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Peak that seems to be necessary to create concentration, one-pointed-ness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I would say. But even that is not regarded as security either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: No. But would you advise it? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s what I’m trying to say, is it had to be firsthand account. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2488.0,2599.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, in a situation where ego is being destroyed, or at least one thick layer of it, a situation where the person is simultaneously being cut from two different angles, and it’s a situation where it’s sort of, like, on a subtle level, the person is trying to gain its parents. In other words, there’s two umbilical cords, one going to a mother and one to a father. Now if one umbilical cord is cut from a reference point of egolessness and the other from ego, from the newborn child’s point of view, the distinction is-- there’s-- the child can see the twoness of it, but also the oneness of it is very clear too, sort of like Siamese twins. What I think what I’m getting at is that -- I mean, even putting a label from the child’s point of view, even putting a label of like well this one, you know, cuts through from the point of view of ego and this one cuts through from the point of view of egolessness it becomes-- it seems irrelevant from the child’s point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So I just sort of feel the same towards both.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes or neither or either. Well said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2599.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: I’d like to ask a question that’s been asked before when it’s been brought up, particularly in the last couple of weeks at house meetings at Tail of the Tiger. You were talking about the lives of the people in the lineage as examples. But you didn't say whether you meant them to be exemplary in their actions, or just examples of what happens. In any case, what-- you’ve been giving a description, somewhat of an analysis, portrait, to a great extent intellectual, highly intellectual. And the question which keeps on arising at the house meetings is: why are we discussing these things? And the answer given most often from one side of the senate is \"well, we’re doing this to exhaust our minds.\" And the other side of the floor says there’s some point in doing it. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: I always wondered what went on behind closed doors up there. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So?\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Well, what would you say would be the points, or possible points [laughter], in this kind of discussion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's seems that that’s saying the same thing as dharma is the path that you trod on. Buddha is the example of passengers who already walked on that path. And seem to be depends on individuals, that how they regard example applying to them, or else copying out Buddha’s style, purely making themselves replica of Buddha.\r\n\r\n\r\nI think the problem or the promise are the same thing. That we can’t give prescribed, hundred-percent prescribed means, methodology. Or we can’t reject the means and methodology. But it had to be individual inspiration. That intellectualization is useful, necessary. We can’t do without words, mathematics, diagrams. But at the same time, we could do with some kind of intuition. And purely relying on statistics are found out to be not very good.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I mean, it’s very broad. So in other word, you are lost in the midst of all those possibilities. And if we related with our lostness, our aloneness, loneliness, then we begin to pick up some message, because we’re lost without anyone to encourage hope. As Milarepa did, that he had no encouragement, except his mother sent him several flakes of gold sewn in his coat. \"And now wear this coat and go away. If you feel that way, find some means of continuing your existence.\" Apart from that, there’s no encouragement. And in some sense that his mother’s approach towards him is very cruel, that, you know, he doesn’t know what to do. But he finds his way because he feels so lonely, so cut off from his future of his life, how to live life. I think at that point the sense of lost and loneliness or hopelessness plays important part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=2708.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77288/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should stop our talk here. And talking about loneliness and desolation, we’re having a nyinthun tomorrow, which is a whole day meditation practice. That I feel extremely important to have that kind of discipline for those who take part in the seminar. That way of handling ourselves, way of meeting ourselves, personally. And anybody who hasn’t done before, might feel that they can’t sit for whole day. But you'll be surprised you can do so. That lot of people have -- everybody in fact start that way. Nobody is trained from childhood to sit this way, but people picked up at certain point. There is a certain breakthrough, their decision. Confident in themselves, they decide to embark on such a practice, and people were able to do so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo anyone who take part in the seminar, I hope that everybody will be able to take part in this nyinthun tomorrow, which is extremely important. In order to experience complete of our seminar, and particularly to relate with Milarepa’s story and his life, it would be good that if you could at least try to imitate Milarepa’s style just for one day. Which is very encouraging, not only to yourselves, but rest of America. That we could become American Milarepas. Doesn’t have to be Tibetan or Japanese or Chinese, Indian, but you could be American Buddhists, American Milarepa. And it’s very encouraging if you are able to just be brave and trusting yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd there’s every necessity of arrangement as far as organization is concerned, that all the programs here especially made available to you. And there will be a lunch period, a dinner period, and readings and sitting and walking and everything. That I would like to-- we would like to invite everybody to take part in this, which is very interesting and important. And I hope you will be able to do so. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Please, would somebody like to take my place with childcare tomorrow, because I've never had this day, and I've just given it out. Is there anyone who would take your children from ten to twelve? Someone?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: I'll do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=3029.0,3278.67733"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730718VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KARL SPRINGER: Is there any\nother questions about tomorrow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=20.2,25.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Betty, hurry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=26.4,27.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BETTY KING: Yes. I need quick--\nI need childcare volunteers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=27.6,30.73"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Two for eight to ten,\nor any portion thereof.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=31.46,37.51"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ten to twelve?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=40.62,42.22"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Ten to twelve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=43.1,45.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BETTY KING: Okay, Michael\nand who else?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=46.86,48.46"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDIENCE: Oh, volunteers\nfor tomorrow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=49.25,54.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BETTY KING: One for twelve\nto two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=54.48,57.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that's okay,\nparents will be there then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=57.02,59.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I need three for five\nto seven, or one of those hours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364#t=59.2,63.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/144640/file/267364/transcript/77289/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Two more.\nOkay. And one more. 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