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In the sutras, intellect is joined with a sense of devotion. Up-to-date communication that speaks directly to our experience, rather than purely historical documents. Immaculate proclamation of the dharma: intelligent, dispassionate, and nonaggressive. Examining the sutras that make up the three turnings of the wheel of dharma shows how enormous Buddha's realization was. Humbled, we are less likely to be caught in our own spiritual materialism. Q\u0026amp;A Highlights: [Q7] Are the three turnings of the wheel related to the three paths? [Q10] What do you mean when you say we don't exist? Note: This talk was not included in the book Cynicism and Magic, which is based on this seminar, The Tibetan Buddhist Path."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: Tibetan Buddhist Path"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["VIDEODVD: THE TIBETAN BUDDHIST PATH\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK410\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nNOTE: This talk is *not* included in the book CYNICISM AND MAGIC"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Oct 31 2018 to Apr 09 2021 Transcribing: ODT Editors Group Checking: Daniel Nguyen, Ella Milligan, Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Travis May Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["An overview of the sutra teachings of the Buddha. In the sutras, intellect is joined with a sense of devotion. Up-to-date communication that speaks directly to our experience, rather than purely historical documents. Immaculate proclamation of the dharma: intelligent, dispassionate, and nonaggressive. Examining the sutras that make up the three turnings of the wheel of dharma shows how enormous Buddha's realization was. Humbled, we are less likely to be caught in our own spiritual materialism. Q\u0026amp;A Highlights: [Q7] Are the three turnings of the wheel related to the three paths? [Q10] What do you mean when you say we don't exist? Note: This talk was not included in the book Cynicism and Magic, which is based on this seminar, The Tibetan Buddhist Path."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=0.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Comparative studies on sutra. The question here is attitude and intellect as well as a sense of a commitment or faith, devotion, whatever you would like to call, brought together. That the various sutras and teachings of Buddha, in written form, that we could understand as up-to-date situation, rather than historical document, as such. And I think it is very interesting that for us to get into our own everyday life situation at the same time -- that how we handle ourselves, when we write letters to our friends, our teacher, our relatives, and ourselves. That there’s a sense of-- that you’re involved with area of communication in a very solid and very definite level. You may be freaked out at the time, or feels depressing, or feel that there is nothing much to say in terms of composing a letter to your friend or relative, or whatever. But, nevertheless, there’s some sense of continuity takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=64.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about sutra, we are talking in terms of how Buddha communicated to us. That the sutra could become up-to-date living situation and practical situation for everyone to work with. That is enormous achievement. It’s fantastic. And we might feel that we are intimidated by such enormous achievement, but, at the same time, the sutra situation is also continued in relating with how we relate with the teachings at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=202.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That whether we relate our teaching that we received is part of a colorful display, that you can get off on to this. Or else, it is something very real, or teachings could be presented playing off our emotions. That we feel terribly proud of ourselves. “Let’s take pride in this.” And let’s indulge our pride. That we are involved with the teaching-- this particular teaching, whatever may be. \"Let us make heroic feeling about the whole thing. And let us salute the flag. And let us sing the national song.\" It could be in the form of a secular national song. Or in the form of prayer or mantra or whatever. That we are doing the same thing. And then there’s another area. \"And let us be so passionate, let us get into this particular teaching, passionately. Let us get into love. Passion. Passion. And passion is the only way. There’s no other way better than passion. And let us commit ourselves into this deep-rooted passion that we have in ourselves, and we shouldn’t feel ourselves bad about that. That is, in fact, attribute of our existence, and let us make love to the doctrine, or the preceptor, and the teaching that be presented. Let us make love to the cosmos and world that the teachings represent.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=248.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another area of relating with the teachings in terms of communication is a very aggressive one. Traditionally known as \"satanistic\" in the Western world, but maybe it’s not all that devil worshipping as such, but you could be worshipping God. But still you approach your level of inspiration at the level of idea in a devil-like nature, which is aggression, which is taking certain, particular attitude to your non-believers. \"Those who don’t believe in us, let them destroyed. Let them have it. And one day they will come back to us, because they begin to feel they got completely destroyed, feel absolutely wretched, and they got come back to us. So, therefore, we have complete command and reassurance. So let us give them some shock, and let us put them on the electric fence, and let us give them some message. Let us destroy them temporarily. So, finally, when they got the message, they could come back to us and plead guilty and confess what have they’ve done. Their misunderstandings were their own fault. So let us come back to us.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=386.0,474.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all kinds of tactics that involved. We could say that those three tactics of misuse of sutra or anti-Buddha-like approach that evolved in often presenting the doctrine or idea, either politically, like abdicating democracy, equality, trying to provoke state of peace or trying to bring equality of the workers in the communist level. Whatever state of idea, ideology might exist, that those three principles are always operating in the proclamation of the doctrine. That what we are talking about. Sutra is being proclamation of the doctrine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=474.0,521.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what we are talking about, at this point, is that all kinds of styles proclamation of the doctrine, taking advantage of people’s weakness. If they’re aggressive, let’s get into it, make advertisement out of that. Let us entice them. Passionate, let us entice them. Or proud, let us entice them. But level of pride, according to the traditional doctrine, this point, is related with ignorance. So we have three types of poisons operating in the improper way of propagating the dharma. Is propagating the dharma from the point of view of taking advantage of people’s pride or ignorance, which is saying the same thing. Stupidity on the whole. Or else, taking advantage of people’s passion, that they need lover. And teacher is a manifestation of that, or for that matter, the basic teaching. And then there is aggression, evangelistic and doctrinal warfare. That those who disbelieve in this particular thing should be destroyed or should be challenged, regarded as anti-dharma of that particular doctrine, which is the third situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=521.0,621.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in discussing this particular question of true dharma is concerned, in terms of sutra, that Buddha has it presented, from this point of view, dharma as Buddha has presented is intelligent, wo that makes you think twice, sharpens your critical judgment; and dispassionate, because the presentation is cool and calm. That the seductions are no-- are not the point. But openness is the point. That it is purely open, without any remarks of seduction involved. It is non-aggressive because even those who aggressively trying to kill or destroy presentation of such dharma are regarded as part of your friend. The aggression is part of the materials to work on. For that matter, your own aggression is part of the material that you should work on at the same time, as well. So the question is that sutra teaching is anti-ignorant, anti-passion, anti-aggression from that point of view. For the very reason that dharma is no longer regarded as doctrine in the popular sense. That it is no longer regarded as a doctrine, idea, that should catch people-- that should catch people’s weak point. They should be brought in by playing on their weakness, whatever they want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=621.0,775.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"“Sutra” literally means “confluence, junction.” The Tibetan word for sutra is “do,” which means “junction,” “confluence.” Usually, it is very descriptive in terms of our own experience is concerned. That experience of openness and also experience of concern, concern to life situations, sense of salvation, sense of attainment of enlightenment, whatever we have concerned ourselves that brought us together into the practicing of the teachings. Sense of concern. So the junction here is that that of the openness and wide vision, aerial point of vision, seeing things as it is, as it were. And seeing things as literally that meet with your particular demand, in the sense of particular situation that you have. Either that you have a sense of confusion, sense of need for clarification, whatever that you are experiencing currently, presently at that particular point. So working together from that point of view. Sense of openness from that point of view. So, on the whole, we could say that purpose and meaning of sutra is meeting point of vision and practicality, which is saying prajna and upaya are working together, this particular point, as far as sutra is concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=775.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That certain particular sutra, in fact all of them, are compiled after the death of the Buddha, mahaparinirvana of Buddha by council of disciples brought together and compiled them with certain particular record, with certain particular discussion. And they are often-- often named after the place and named after the situation and named after the people. And, for instance, the Lankavatara Sutra is named after the situation where Buddha was in the country of Langkas, Ceylon. That that particular discourse that took place are named after that. It is quite a different from just naming the title of your book that just about publish. You’re going to send it to your publisher, and you have to come up with a catchy title. But it’s just simply named. So, quite similarly, we could have sutra called Boulder-avatara Sutra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=959.0,1055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes sutra is named after the people who are involved with the basic conversation, and named after that. That the discussion of the person who involved with the particular practice, the particular study, such as the Angulimala Sutra that the Indian warrior who had become suddenly extremely aggressive, that he’s being murdering everybody, and his last person that he would like to murder is his mother and the Buddha, which makes two thousand people, finally. And he collect everybody’s thumbs as mala, which he wears around his neck. So he tried to chase his mother and, [UNCLEAR: failing? following?] that, mother took refuge to the Buddha, and he then chased Buddha. And the whole discussion is involved around about that aggression, with enormous insight that Angulimala had, as well as his aggression is problematic. So that was another example of sutra.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1055.0,1172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, another type of sutra that is the purely and simply related with the subject matter, that the topic is discussed and, therefore, sutra is named after that. Such as like Prajnaparamita Hridaya, is the Heart Sutra, as popularly known as. And, also, the another type of sutra is that what sutra should functioning, what the sutra particularly be doing. What is the purpose with that particular sutra? Such as like Vajracchedika Sutra or Diamond Sutra as known popularly. \"Diamond Cutting Sutra,\" which is based on idea of cutting dualistic notion of ego. That is the purpose of the sutra, is cut through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1172.0,1236.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic point of sutras are, from that way, experiencing sense of true perception within oneself. That how you are relating with the teaching and how you are relating with your teacher, at the same time. The question here is how we could assimilate 108 volumes of sutras. The discourses, the descriptions of the Buddha’s teaching in presently three languages, maybe four, and all of those languages are written in oriental language, either Sanskrit, or Pali, or Chinese, Japanese, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1236.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the only sutras that be translated into the English language that we have so far is maybe two percent of the basic sutras. Maybe less, actually. Eight point of the 108 sutras been translated into English language. And, so far as the understanding of the sutra is concerned, that we have made relationship with that. Very precisely and very definitely that the-- the main sutras are the Prajnaparamita Sutra, and some of the Theravadin tradition of the nikayas been translated, and, particularly, meditation manuals of sutras, such as like the Satipatthana Sutra and the sutras like that been translated into the English language, with the commentaries and so forth. That we in the West feel extremely stupid, say the least, that not having enough open understanding to Buddhism, buddhadharma. That we have just fragment of those 108 volumes, just fragment of few chapters in one big volume has been translated. And how on earth we’re going to learn the rest of it? And how we’re going to translate them, how we’re going to learn the languages? It’s feels very bad and doesn’t feel particularly hopeful that we can do the whole thing. At least one person couldn’t do that. And you need hundred great masters who are maybe involved with each volume, thoroughly and fully, but each volume contains lot of sutras at the same time. So maybe we need thousand great masters, gurus, experts, who are specialized on one particular sutra of that particular volume can only show us the way. Tell us what Buddha had said the rest of his life. That we have no ideas about that, and in the Western language, as far as translation is concerned, that trying to collect or learn sutras without being a linguistic scholar seem to be absolutely hopeless, and ironically, is terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1308.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact, it is impossible to understand what Buddha had said. And we don’t even have notion of nirvana. Is one simple word that’s been over and over and over used by all kinds of people, but we really don’t know what nirvana is all about. What does mean nirvana? Tell us. Well, it means freedom, salvation, sure. [laughs; laughter] But what else means? What does mean freedom? What does mean salvation? Well, everything’s going to be okay. [laughter] We don’t have to go through the hassle of life anymore. That we begin to feel that we are just barely touching on the one little corner, very tiny, mini, little corner of fragmented or even that little piece of sand, which created a part of gigantic stupa, which is beyond our imagination, but we are just approaching whole thing from miniature insect’s point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1501.0,1584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not having any comprehension of anything at all, none whatsoever, that what Buddha had said, what he taught. Not that we are stupidly paralyzed, but we don’t have opportunities and resources, materials. That a lot of books got lost, and a lot of books haven’t translated. So we have no hope from that point of view. And what we are been discussing so far throughout the path class, so-called path class is concerned, we’ve been just trying to study one corner of that particular statue or stupa. Maybe you’ve been studying the foundations, and maybe we’ve been mowing the lawn of that particular ground where the statue has been built. Maybe we haven’t touched the actual statue at all, the actual stupa at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1584.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yet we feel that we are doing something here, and we feel pretty good, we learning, and things been meaningful, and inspiring, and so forth. So how we going to handle that situation? If we want to understand the real meaning of comparative sutra, that we got down into enormous ocean, that is much bigger than any ocean on Earth, which we can’t even imagine what is it would be like, because we only have seen the ocean on Earth. We think it’s fantastically big, gigantic, enormous. That we could sail across, that we could throw nuclear test in all kinds of places, and we begin to feel that our ocean that what we have is enormous, gigantic. But from that point of view, teachings of Buddha is concerned, that particular ocean we have on Earth is the puddle, the water that collected in cow’s footprint. Well, maybe we could discuss on the question of microcosm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1661.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the sutras has been translated into the English language are so far that we have is Heart Sutra, Diamond Sutra, which is being popularly presented and maybe some sutras translated from the Pali text be successfully presented. We do not know how successful they are. But, at the same time, that we have some glimpse of it. Maybe a very small portion of Buddha’s teaching, extremely small portion of Buddha’s teaching. But, at the same time, they made lot of sense to a lot of people, a great deal of people. And such sutra like Heart Sutra, which is only about two-and-half pages, out of the 100,000-- out of the 108 volumes of the sutra, and two-and-a-half pages of Heart Sutra made enormous impact on us. That lot of people feel that we have understood the whole thing, teachings of Buddha, and lot of people feel that they are just about to understand. And that has made us basic point of working basis from here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1764.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That for the very reason that we have discussed how we are, who we are, to begin with, let us forget how gigantic and enormous perspective of the teachings might be, maybe great. It might be eons of work. But, however, that the grain of sand that we picked out from that gigantic stupa is extremely potent, electric. That the teachings of Buddhism is being presented in this country, almost a century ago, that simply begin to take root. Taking a root not so much of that how glamorous and how successful, saving two million souls in America, or how fantastic it had to be, and there’s testimonial record as such, but how much chaos that Buddha’s teachings created in the system of thinking that had developed in the West, which is remarkable and fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1860.0,1955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That at the beginning, we thought that we going to any spiritual trips, we might involve that going to give us sense of eternity, sense of everlasting life. We going to be saved, because we now can exist forever. That’s the definition of being saved is that we can exist forever. We can continue hour after hour, day after day, week after week, year after years, century after centuries, eons after eons. That we have found something that we can exist eternally. We can associate with those particular principles or particular deities who are going to save us. But when Buddhism come along, and begin to tells us that there’s nothing to be saved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=1955.0,2017.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"“What you mean there is nothing to be saved? I can’t understand you.” Well, it’s very simple, you don’t exist. [laughter]. “Bullshit.\" [laughter] \"That’s not true.” Well, okay, if that’s the case, but then, why do you think it’s bullshit? Why do you think it’s not true? “Well, I’ve been involved with the spiritual path for thirty years. I have been doing my own trip and my discipline practice, and I still feel good in spite of my shortcomings.” [laughter] Very interesting. [laughter] How did you achieve such confident? “Well, it’s not particularly so much of confident, but I feel good, because I feel that I’ve been watched and guided. And I’ve been led to this particular situation.” Guided by who? “Well, there is some divine force somewhere keeping eye on me, because I feel that I’m in good wavelength, vibrations with him, and we are communicating same wavelength.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2017.0,2136.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The system is slowly breaking through. Maybe that was very, very crude and popularized notion, but there’s some truth in that kind of system of thinking, system of approach. That whole thing is begin to break through. Particularly, that teachings of Buddha came to existence. You don’t exist. The things you think exist are impermanent, and things you think might be impermanent but still happening are painful and sorrowful. Full of pain, misery. So whole pursuit of spirituality is based on pleasure orientation somehow didn’t work. That this is almost, from a lot people’s way of thinking, Buddha had developed some kind of perverted mind, maybe. Instead of saying spirituality is bliss, he begin to say, before we get anywhere, let us discuss the pain. That might be outrageous and terrible. Only Buddha can say that. But if we tend to think-- if we think detailed and properly, it is becoming true. And much more close to home, therefore, we don’t want to accept it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2136.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the-- being saved in spiritual discipline feels happy. In a spiritual discipline, high spiritual disciplines, those are all expressions of pain, because you don’t want feel bad. Therefore, you’re trying to feel good, which is trying to encourage the pain at the same time, which is extremely true. And it is our own experience as our every existence situation is concerned. That first teachings of Buddha presented that life is painful. We should try to find out the source of the pain. Then we should find the hypothetical possibilities of the goal. Having had some ideas of the goal, then we should go back to the path and start working on the pain. That’s the first sutra that Buddha has presented to us. And then, there’s the further development of certain particular disciplines that people should not worship idols, mountains, trees. But the ideal way of worshipping or surrendering process maybe is enlightened state of being. And, also, that you experience and then you be trapped in the samsaric world at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2250.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that you are finally not worshipper, but you are refugee. Worshipper has home ground, his traditional culture; but when you think yourself as refugee, that you don’t have any state, any belongings. You be ousted of your country, become refugee. So you can’t fight for your property or anything like that. So becoming refugee, taking refuge in the Buddha as an example, not father figure. Taking refuge in the dharma, as a path, not involving yourself in the payroll, or social system as such, but just simply as a path. Taking refuge in the sangha is regarded as the companionship of fellow other refugees who do the same thing. So you’re doing it at the same time. Not there’s somebody you can lean on, but you can stand on your own two feet. So the question here becomes very austere, extremely austere. That we don’t seem to be getting anything out of it nicely beautiful. And often lot of students might attempt it, “Do the Buddhists believe in a heaven? Since it’s supposed to be a religion, that all religions believe in a heaven? Isn’t there a good things happening up there somewhere?” [laughter] Buddha would have said “no.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2361.0,2464.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there are interpretations that exist that Tushita heaven, and pure land heaven, and all kinds of things. But those things are not particularly regarded as a source of refuge, a source of alternatives. But anybody who goes into such heavens must be taking refuge first. You should denounce your security completely. And if there’s any desire to reach to the heaven, that you are not in it, and you are, in fact, in the bottom of the hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2464.0,2508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the differences between the teachings of sutras from the early part of Buddha’s life, what’s known as “first turning of the wheel of the doctrine,” which is basically the elaborated form of all kinds of sutras. I think, which is there about 452 sutras of the first turning of the wheel of the dharma is based on the principle of four noble truths. And, also, it is based on the basically monastic discipline, alternative life is that actually *act out* refugee; not just think you are refugee, having become a Buddhist, but leave your home, don’t have any possessions, no income, no title, no caste system, no social status. Just leave everything, become a group of people, which is known as \"bhikshu.\" Become shramanera and bhikshu, that is becoming monk. But there is no point as hierarchical as monk as clergy from that point of view. It is purely developing oneself as simple person, that who could step out of ordinary normality of life. But simply becomes no-man’s land person. Become a tramp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2508.0,2606.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the second turning of the wheel of the doctrine speaks of a bodhisattva’s action and bodhisattva principles and largely based on the sutras of prajnaparamita, “The great learnings of the knowledge,” at the prajnaparamita level, which is transcending knowledge of ordinary understanding. But understanding egolessness, as well as the egolessness is also very sharp and powerful, precise. It is also entity in its own. Can cut through the guts of ego, aortas of ego, and destroy selfishness, egohood by understanding certain particular principle of transcendent ego, which dwells not in duality, but non-duality of non-existence of ego, which is the basic principle of shunyata. That you could cut *through*, very abruptly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2606.0,2685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And such sutra, the twelve volumes in the Tibetan tradition-- Tibetan edition and maybe a much more extensive in the Chinese and Japanese tradition. There are about five-- 50,000 rather, chapters in that of different types of experience of shunyata, different types of experience of prajna, the basic intellect, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2685.0,2731.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the what’s known as the \"third turning of the wheel of the dharma,\" which is after end of life of Buddha and before his death, about ten years before his death, that he presented this particular discourse to a lot of people. And such discourse consists of a sense of luminosity. That has nothing to do with the clear-light principle of popular LSD-type experience. For one thing, Buddha had never taken LSD, [laughter] another thing is that the language seem to be different. But the question there is a state of luminosity. And the state of-- the action being more important than contemplation. The action speaks much fuller and much louder in everyday life situation. That action, application is bodhisattva’s path are equally important, and it is much broader. And, also, that Buddha talks in that particular sutra which consists of basically, the ten great sutras of the last turning of wheel of the dharma, it talks about how great, how magnificent is the path. The sense of heroism of enlightened version. A sense of openness from that point of view. A sense of complete fascination with enlightened principles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2731.0,2864.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That Buddha talks a great deal about the principle of “lion’s roar.” The bravery -- not in the sense of trying to fight against somebody, therefore, you shouldn’t be frightened by somebody, but a self-existing bravery, which is quite a different than being aggressively brave. That because somebody is trying to undermine you, therefore, you trying to make-- try to create your own one-upmanship. But a sense of basic bravery, which has no oppositions. Therefore, you can afford to be extraordinarily brave and open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2864.0,2921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as the basic sutra is concerned, that is trying to bring together that junction of intellect, experience, and skillful actions together. That the teachings of Buddha are not particularly sensational. For that matter, not particularly uplifting. But it is so frightening at the same time, because doesn’t give us any room to operate our own little tricks that we have. And once you begin to hear the teachings of Buddha that you feel that you become belittled. That his point of view is so enormous, gigantic, that things what we’re trying to operate in our own little, humble spiritual scenes, what weird little things what we do, in the eensy-weensy little style, that we feel that we be bewildered. That our little projects automatically collapse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=2921.0,3008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, so, finally, we could say that teachings of Buddha is sky falling on our head. That enormous approach, enormous mind that’s operating in the greater style, and the greater understanding, that we do our little trip here, our little trip there, are becomes somewhat meaningless, trivial, and adolescent situation. That the point of enlightenment and teachings of Buddha, at this point, is to make us to inspire to grow up in that level, growing up that level of greater thinking, enlightened situation. At the same time, if you try to desire that great whatever it is, that we are back to square one. We are back to our little world. So I hope tonight I have able to put you off [laughter] enough, so that you don’t seek for enlightenment and give in, give up, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3008.0,3096.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, time for discussion. The topless gentleman over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, could-- could you explain more, or go into more, how you relate to God in our non-being or whatever in the aggressive, passionate way, you know, with a sword or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How to relate with God and... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Our non-being or whatever in a passionate, aggressive way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that’s all related with the whole thing. Basically, if you could relate with God in a such way that He doesn’t exist, that’s got the first problem solved. [laughter] Then quite possibly your passion doesn't exist, aggression doesn't exist, because He doesn’t exist -- which is *you* at that point. And it is very simple and very direct. And the passion and aggression are consist of ideas and a concept of all kinds. That they are seemingly seductive and powerful, but at the same time they are hollow, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3096.0,3225.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Young lady over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Your trip is exactly opposite from--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: This Buddhism is exactly opposite from Ram Dass. [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ram Dass?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Ram Dass, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that particular religion? [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What do you feel about him?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pardon me.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Pardon, pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pardon me.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Pardon me...\r\n\r\n\r\n[Rinpoche puts hand on his heart and bows]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3225.0,3279.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: What do you feel about the fact that Ram Dass is here also, and he seems, as it appears to me, to be doing exactly and saying exactly the opposite of what you are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I feel extremely good that Ram Dass is here and extremely full of it. [laughter] And... that we don’t believe in God, and he lost God. [laughs; laughter] And he’s still looking for it. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3279.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bottomless gentleman?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Earlier this year I saw a very pretty, moving film called \"Requiem for a Faith\" on Tibetan Buddhism. In the film, it was described that approximately one-sixth of the male population of Tibet, at the time of the takeover, were monks. Do you foresee anything of this kind ever happening in America? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it is strongly possible that the next [UNCLEAR: yearning?] process that will take place in this country is a sense of monasticism of-- in its own full operation, rather than trying to prove themselves that they’ve been ordained by somebody or the other. But there is actual sangha, actual vihara situation taking place. And I have enormous high hopes about that as well at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3359.0,3453.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In CUTTING THROUGH SPIRITUAL MATERIALISM, you speak of the void as being \"luminous\". That’s at the end of the book in answer to somebody’s question. I was wondering if that isn’t an apparent contradiction? How is the void luminous?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You think there’s a problem? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, that’s a characteristic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe you could tell me what is the problem with the void and luminous.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, luminosity seems to be a concept.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Like light. But we’re warned not to think in any kind of conceptual terms.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, don’t you think that openness and non-existence, from the point of view of shunyata, is also luminous?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Or conceptual?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Or conceptual?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t know about that. But in the experience that you begin to feel non-existent. That you feel that things don’t exist. Things don't-- things aren’t there, including myself. Experience are just a phantom, but not particularly real. And you begin to feel there’s non-existence, at the same time there’s sense of, that you experience a dawn of some kind.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well, you seem to promise us some out of hope, and maybe little bliss there. [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you think in terms of promise, I don’t think that’s the case. But if you don't-- if you think in terms of a non-promise, that’s the case. Which is also promise, by the way. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3453.0,3598.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I have another question, Rinpoche. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, go ahead.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: This is not meant critically, it just interests me--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Go ahead. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Alright. I wonder why you're late? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I thought I was being very early. [laughter; applause] But now you're telling me that I have to reconsider the whole thing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3598.0,3654.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You said that first we must understand the pain, and then we must understand, even hypothetically, the possibility of a goal, and then we go back and find the path. I believe I understand the pain. I don’t have any understanding of what the goal might be. Can you tell me what, even hypothetically, the goal is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s it. You don’t have any ideas. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3654.0,3705.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Blue hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Are the three turnings of the wheel of dharma related to the paths: hinayana, mahayana, whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is related with the what? [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The paths, hinayana, the narrow path, mahayana--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, the first turning is related with the hinayana, and the second and third turning are related with the mahayana. That we don’t have vajrayana included in that as far the sutra is concerned. The vajrayana disciplines and the textbooks are referred to as \"tantra.\" And we have only discussed about sutra, which is up to-- goes up to mahayana level. That because there’s still need to bring out the junctions together. And tantra is being something quite a different, which means-- “tantra” literally means “thread, continuity.” So the sense of continuity hasn’t been developed, and still brought together in terms of confluence. So that’s why that hinayana and mahayana scriptures are known as “sutra,” or “bringing together,” which goes with the second turning of the wheel of dharma, as well as third turning of the wheel of dharma are mahayana scriptures.\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\n[START AUDIO NOT IN VIDEO]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does one attain enlightenment, or is enlightenment forced upon one? [laughter] If you know what I mean. [laughter] \r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it’s both. It’s both. \r\n\r\n\r\n[END AUDIO NOT IN VIDEO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3705.0,3820.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Why is it that once you get on, you can’t get off? I mean, even if you want to try, you can’t get off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s the big question, and that is object of meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So that you can’t get off?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why you are doing this thing? Why we are here at all?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Is it because you’re taught to see-- you start to see differently, because you’re meditating?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [shakes head 'no'] It’s much larger than that. I mean, why there is moon, there is sun? Why there is earth? And why? Good luck. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=3820.0,3909.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, this is really basic question. I don’t really understand what you mean when you say that we don’t exist. Could you explain further?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: About what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you talk about the fact that we don’t exist...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What is-- [laughs] can you talk further about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, do you feel you exist? Can you give her back the microphone? Do you feel you exist?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Sometimes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah…\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That’s the problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hundred percent?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No? Why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That’s what I’m asking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that’s it. [laughter] And for the very reason you have to ask question. When the question’s been raised, that asking question itself is very futile. 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And that becomes a problem at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Everybody seem to be caring for that and this, then this and that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why is it a problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I’m asking you. Why did you ask the question at all in the beginning?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I wouldn’t have asked the question if I knew the answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, so you care for something or other.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Well, I ask you back in the same way that, isn’t that your contemplation point, being up there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, is seem to be you brought up the question--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But no, you brought--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn’t say it wasn’t my problem--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Rinpoche, you brought it up [laughter] when you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh yeah. [laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: -- and I’m just answering your question--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you brought it up as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: -- with an answer formed as a question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean... [laughs; laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nGood luck, sir. 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Can you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=4228.0,4256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER12: Are the different experiences of shunyata that you were talking about, just before in your talk, are they classified in the abhidharma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not in the abhidharma.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Did that come earlier than the shunyata teaching?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, abhidharma purely talks about a samsaric state of being. And abhidharma doesn’t talk about shunyata experiences at all. That’s why it is hinayana principle of trying to familiarize with yourself. And after that comes the mahayana tradition, which might be talking about shunyata principle and, particularly, the extended version of the entire sutra on the prajnaparamita talks about different perspectives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=4256.0,4316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there somebody raising hand around here? Gentleman in the blue?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, if we don’t exist, who is listening to you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nobody. [laughter] I don’t exist either. So, therefore, we all don’t exist, and we could listen to each other very happily. 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That a state of absorption from the point of view of being numb, and as we popularly say, \"spaced out.\" And a state of absorption, on the other hand, like the samadhi of, that Buddha enters, like vajra-like samadhi that Buddha enters is a state of complete clarity, very clear. There’s no mistaken preconceptions, anything at all. State of complete clarity. So the bodhisattva enters into a state of absorption or samadhi that his work of ten paramitas become very active.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760#t=4377.0,4459.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76069/file/166760/transcript/40327/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, friends, shall we adjourn tonight? I'm excited that you have so much energy [laughter] to continue at this late hour. Thank you. [Applause]\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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