{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/h707w6957d/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1974-08-22: Foundations of Mindfulness: Talk 4: Mindfulness of Effort: Spontaneous Discipline"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1974-08-22"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Rocky Mountain Dharma Center (RMDC), Red Feather Lakes, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/640/show\"\u003eFoundations of Mindfulness\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 4: Mindfulness of Effort: Spontaneous Discipline"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Meditation and Mindfulness"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis talk explores mindfulness of effort, Trungpa Rinpoche’s way of presenting the third foundation of mindfulness. Effort here is not so concerned with accuracy or precision, but with a sense of “clear seeing,” and an emphasis on balancing spontaneity and discipline. Spontaneity is described as a continual form of directness, fearlessness, and being with first thought -- a fresh experience of “just being there” that brings delight, joy, and a sense of humor. Discipline is equated with exertion: an ongoing experience of acquainting ourselves with hard work, and a sense of bringing ourselves back to square one and the first-thought level. This talk offers many experiential and interweaving descriptions of spontaneity and exertion, connecting them to the sitting practice of meditation and explaining how to work with them in the face of challenges and “blockages” in our everyday lives. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: Question 3, “letting go, letting be”\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Mindfulness in Action","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 10"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MINDFULNESS IN ACTION: Chapter 13: Spontaneous Discipline-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/mindfulness-in-action-3551.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 10 (in contained book MINDFULNESS IN ACTION)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-volume-10-15032.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMar 13 2020 to Oct 13 2021 Transcribing: Chase Bauer Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThis talk explores mindfulness of effort, Trungpa Rinpoche\u0026rsquo;s way of presenting the third foundation of mindfulness. Effort here is not so concerned with accuracy or precision, but with a sense of \u0026ldquo;clear seeing,\u0026rdquo; and an emphasis on balancing spontaneity and discipline. Spontaneity is described as a continual form of directness, fearlessness, and being with first thought -- a fresh experience of \u0026ldquo;just being there\u0026rdquo; that brings delight, joy, and a sense of humor. Discipline is equated with exertion: an ongoing experience of acquainting ourselves with hard work, and a sense of bringing ourselves back to square one and the first-thought level. This talk offers many experiential and interweaving descriptions of spontaneity and exertion, connecting them to the sitting practice of meditation and explaining how to work with them in the face of challenges and \u0026ldquo;blockages\u0026rdquo; in our everyday lives. Q\u0026amp;A Highlight: Question 3, \u0026ldquo;letting go, letting be\u0026rdquo;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/297/712/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1763918582","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1763918565_19740822vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":3688.69875,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/297/712/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1763918582","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/297/712/original/1763918565_19740822vctr1-audio-prod-archrmstr-access.mp3?1763918567","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3688.69875,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740822VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740822VCTR1 - Public Seminar - RMDC - Foundations of Mindfulness - Talk 4]\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Training the Mind [retitled \"Foundations of  Mindfulness\"], held at Rocky Mountain Dharma Center. This is talk number four, August 22nd, 1974. This is an ARP digital remaster made May 2007.\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya, the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Training the Mind [retitled \"Foundations of  Mindfulness\"], a seminar presented at Rocky Mountain Dharma Center in the summer of 1974. This is the fourth talk, given on August 22nd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=0.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\n\r\n[recording begins mid-sentence]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=33.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --some questions about effort. Generally, the question is, there is an emphasis on spontaneity, and also emphasis on the discipline at the same time. And often, seemingly, there is a contradiction between the two. The notion of spontaneity is, in this case, is a question of directness, and a question of fearlessness. That the idea of being with the first thought, it seem to be the main point. That spontaneity is not particularly regarded as an abrupt thing, and a sudden thing particularly, but spontaneity is a continual situation, that there is a freshness takes place in every moment of one's life experience or sitting practice of meditation, whatever. Some sense of delight in the situation, some sense of less concerned with accuracy and being precise, but sense of clear seeing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=36.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of spontaneity is also connected with that which doesn't bring tenseness, tension in one's system -- physically, psychologically. That actual tension, irritation, is based on a sense of unable to being spontaneous. That there is two conflicting energies fighting with each other: that the energy of wanting to let go and the energy of wanting to hold still. So, spontaneity in this point could be said is essence of humor, sense of humor, essence of joy, delightful. And almost this one has-- this has element of naivete in some sense. Spontaneity could be said is the opener of the doors to freedom. But at the same time, too spontaneous approach can't take place unless there is at the same time a sense of discipline; so they go together, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=155.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whenever there is a sense of joy, a sense of humor, that joy comes from being *there*, properly, fully, and humor comes from being there, fully. And even spontaneity itself is possible because you are there to experience the experience of spontaneity, and being there is also discipline at the same time. And what we are discussing this point is not so much of actually sitting practice of meditation alone, but we are talking in terms of general life situation that experienced throughout the day, throughout your life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=296.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Discipline is different from effort, but at the same time, discipline means exertion. The notion of effort is like dealing with a bureaucracy, that one has to go through all kinds of channels, and application forms, and all kinds of things until you get what you want. And effort is that you have to crank up your body, and crank up your mind, and finally you try to aim at your particular goal. It's very loose, and at the same time it is very clumsy, but there is a possibilities of having-- developing exertion, which is much more direct. That when you feel unresourceful, depressed, or you feel that as if you are on top of the world, that there is a sense of indulgency [sic] takes place. And after a sense of indulgency [sic] you can't go on, because you are still being entertained however pleasurable or painful situation may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=349.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question is very direct. Exertion is kind of bringing yourself back, to square one, to the first-thought level. Sense of solidness begin to take place, in the positive sense. But you might say, \"This is very well, but how will it begin?\" And there is a different perspective how we begin in the whole thing, is right at the beginning, that we don't begin properly. We begin as what we are, which is to say that maybe a distorted way, confused way, that you have no idea how to actually begin properly, but you begin somehow or other -- one just does it. And people often bothered by this haphazard way of beginning and look for perfection of some kind. But somehow, if you look for perfection, there is no such thing, at the time, on the spot. One has to start with the confusion and imperfection, which is absolutely necessary, definitely necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=452.0,569.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And again there is a sense of spontaneity with starting with the clumsiness, as if one is playing games with oneself, and making fool of oneself, at the beginning -- and let us be fool, and let us do it. And that is also a spontaneity in fact. [Rinpoche farts; laughs; laughter] The sense of primitive way of beginning, sitting practice or awareness practice in everyday life situation, is the first glimpse of spontaneity, which comes with a sense of exertion at the same time. That one has to continue, one has to commit oneself in what we are doing. The question of discipline always comes along with having begun something. One has begun already, and then let us keep walking. The idea of egolessness, and idea of spiritual attainment, and all those questions are in fact a nuisance, in the beginning. And more one has higher goals, metaphysical ideas, that much self-conscious that we become, and we can't even be a fool, which is absolutely disastrous. So we are stuck in halfway through, not being wise person and not being fool, and constantly constipated. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=569.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of exertion is interesting point again. In the Sanskrit word it is \"virya\", which literally means \"hardworking\", or in other word, \"becoming acquaintance with working hard, becoming accustomed to working hard.\" So there is a suggestion of some kind of routine takes place all the time. Whenever there is the-- whenever there is the very high, thick doorstep in front of you, should you climb over it or should you try to avoid it? So there is always that thing to climb over, there's all kinds of possibilities to try to avoid, and maybe sometimes we rather peer [through] a hole through the wall rather than cross the doorway. But it is necessary to step over the doorstep and conduct oneself properly, so to speak. So, in the life situation, often things are not particularly consciously involved with the spiritual questions, but questions of life, communication, sense of honesty, and a sense of skillfulness, sense of demand of all kinds takes place in one's life. And there is a successive, seemingly dead end, that thick walls begin to approach us. We can't go any longer beyond that, and there is a constant challenge takes place. And some point that we become so accustomed to such challenges constantly happening, and there's all kinds of irritations takes place every minute of our life -- sometimes even pleasurable situations becomes irritable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=732.0,886.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there is a constant reminders of that blockage takes place all the time. And personally it's willing to make acquaintance with that blockage -- and that is exertion. Not so much to the fact that you should try to make things smooth and there's trying to create less blockage, or trying to create a better situation or any of those, but simply just become acquaintance with those blockages. Problems after problem that comes up, and that is what is called a \"path\" in fact. Trodding on the path is taking a trip around obstacles after obstacles. The path is made out of obstacles -- otherwise there is no path, it becomes a free ride. So it is important to think in terms of the exertion question is very important this point, which is related with the third foundation of mindfulness, which is \"effort.\" In fact the-- one doesn't put that much effort, but one just be open, and the reference point comes to you. So in other word effort comes to you, you acknowledge the effort, and goes with it, rather than that we are trying to work out, crank up our gearshift, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=886.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question of exertion is extremely important connected with the mindfulness of effort, that there *is* primitive notion of overcoming obstacles, and there is also sophisticated notion of regarding obstacles as path at the same time, those both polarities takes place at the same time, constantly works together. The question of nourishment, feedbacks, seem to be meaningless because there is a constant feedback of nature of struggle, rather than that you've been fed by healthy, good food particularly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1031.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the question of the \"right effort\" brings the definite notion of that there is path, and one doesn't have to check with one's guru, or whatever, and every ten seconds. But there is actually some experience taking place on your path, that there is pattern, there is a texture of the path, there is the style of energies begin to flow by itself, so there is constant, so to speak, feedbacks taking place. And unless one want to be nursed by some parental figure very badly, that everything is very obvious. So from that point of view this four foundations of mindfulness practice is designed to the-- to people who practice meditation in remote areas, in fact, where there is least contact with the teacher, and maybe least contact with your fellow sangha, members of sangha. And it is somewhat aimed to those people who are involved with maybe domestic life, economic pressure, so it is applicable, because there is constant things happening, and working in the factory, putting together nuts and bolts, or being college professor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1094.0,1227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That all the realm of occupations that might exist in the world are always applicable, because such teaching of meditation this point is geared for lonely people. Which doesn't mean to say some are not lonely but everybody is lonely people. As soon as that you have cut your umbilical cord that you are lonely, that you have dissociated yourself with your mother and father, you are begin to grow up into a lonely person. The more poetic way of saying that is \"*alone*-ness,\" I suppose, but actually saying the same thing. That there is-- interestingly, somebody thought-- somebody was kind to such lonely people, and they decided to work on that particular project and come up with such idea as like practice of meditation is very kind, and remarkable, and that's maybe what's called \"compassion.\" [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1227.0,1296.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it is necessary to realize those areas of exertion, areas of loneliness, areas of discipline, which brings the question of mindfulness of effort and the sense of aloneness, loneliness, and a sense of need for exertion, which is very-- could be a source of enormous romantic trip, the yearning towards some kind of monasticism, but at the same time could be very real one, that because it is connected with our everyday life situation at the same time.\n\r\nWell, we could have a discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1296.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What you just said about-- the last two things you just said about this discipline not relying on being able to check back with the guru every ten seconds or minutes, or whatever it was, and also, the possibility of going two different ways, what you just said, getting into a sort of-- well I'm not sure that I remember what you just said, maybe it's my own interpretation. But I-- when you were talking about not checking back with the guru every ten seconds, is that to say that when you've-- [laughs; unknown incident;  laughter] when you ask a question and there is a-- and you're somewhat aware of there being an answer also there, that you should, rather than check *back* with the guru, you should be willing to stick your neck way out, somewhat on your own impetus?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, one does that anyway all the time, that-- one *does* stick one's neck out, in any case. And one is pretend to be not doing it when you found such safe, reliable security such as guru or solid parents that you can communicate to them, and you put your neck down, and you pretend to be very helpless and wretched, but as soon as when you are out of their sight, you usually stick your neck out anyway. [Laughs; laughter] So the question is at this point make this is a known to everybody, including your guru, that you *are* working on yourself in any case, and so to speak \"make it legal.\" [Laughs; laughter]\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Which is checking back with him?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is checking back with her?\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yeah, which is checking back? Is that situation is--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I think there is a situation there already -- that answers that might come to you from your guru, might be the exactly the same as what you experienced. I mean there is fluctuations of life, situation is always there, experience is always there, and one begin to find that there is some pattern, and instead of your mind is preoccupied with asking somebody else how this is all about, you might stick with that, and just work with it. And only purpose seem to be of the teacher is that who will push you back, to square one. Good luck, sir! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1379.0,1629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I feel somewhat confused about being spontaneous and feeling somewhat impulsive and indulgent. Could you talk a little about that?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; SPEAKER2 laughs; laughter] We could play back our tape. [Laughter; laughs] I think the question is very simple actually, not all that complicated. That impulse and frivolity is based on hard working, some kind of gimmick you're trying to shield off the sore points. And spontaneity, real spontaneity, is based on everything is out in the open, there's nothing to play games with anything, you just work with what is there, very simply and directly. And what was the other one?\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That was it.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's it, yeah? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1629.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman in green?\n\r\nSPEAKER3: You talked this evening about exertion, the need for exertion or-- and I think I understand that, but you've-- other places talked about letting go and letting be. And at this point, both in meditation practice and in other facets of our discipline, I still sense somewhat of a-- that those are different, that there's some kind of difference between exertion and letting be or letting go. Could you speak something about that?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well strange enough, this case exertion is letting go, letting be at the same time. And there is very strange twist in logic. I don't know how many lawyers would buy this, [laughter; laughs] but the truth of the matter is, however, [laughs; laughter] that the notion of exertion is outcome of leap. And openness, and let be, you can't \"be\", you can't be \"be\", unless you let go. And you can't let go unless you push yourself, which is exertion. So it's saying the same thing, that when you actually \"be\" spontaneously there, open, let go, and free, and that freedom is not so much of just abandoning the hustle and the bustle problems alone, that's-- that could be boredom, if you don't-- if you just abandon everything you have, the complications of life, and thinking that is salvation, that's kind of blank, flat. Whereas the actual notion of freedom here is to step *into* freedom, which is a push, that one has to push oneself whenever there is a doubt or question of blockage which I discussed early on, then one has to push oneself, which is exertion, which is also letting go at the same time.\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Somehow in there, I guess my experience of exertion relates somehow to aggression, and that seems to present a problem.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we have a problem with the language actually, in this case. We have to think entirely different ways, that it's a Buddhist way of using word \"exertion\" which is a translation of \"virya\", which doesn't mean \"aggression\", which means \"working hard\", which doesn't mean the competitiveness or goal-oriented to a particular thing. So, I think that's one of the problems that we might face, is that usage of word, since that the words are pure at the beginning, they make their sense right at the beginning, but then they were abused so much and it's finally we don't have any resources. Like Transcendental Meditation is nowadays called just purely \"TM\", just by its initial, and it doesn't mean particularly very much to people, and situations like that have developed. But there's no aggression in terms of exertion of virya is concerned. You see, \"aggression\" obviously means to fight against something and to get what you want, without paying it cost. In this case of a push, is you're not getting anything out of it, except you find yourself leapt, and floating, and being freed, but you can't even hold onto that, you can't freeze yourself in mid-air. Try it. [Laughter]\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=1709.0,2002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\n\r\nSPEAKER4: On the idea of exertion, as you were just talking about in terms of practice, would that imply more of exertion in terms of discipline in setting up an attitude towards our practice and a ground, a basis for our practice? Rather than while we're sitting to sort of-- to squeeze, and push hard, rather than just being there when we're sitting.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think everything what we talk about in terms of meditation practice is a level of attitude. Naturally that's the, you know, basic assumption, and moreover in this case it is not so much of deliberately push oneself in the same level as that as if you been Rolfed. [Laughter] But it's attitude, that there is a leap is available and there is potentialities of that; not only that, but actually it comes close to you, that you can let go, with a certain amount of exertion. [Laughs]\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could I ask one other thing? When you were talking last time about the token of physical sitting, it reminded me of the story you told about the monkey who imitated an enlightened ma-- a yogi who was sitting. And the monkey would sit like he did, and for years and years, and the day the yogi got enlightened the monkey got enlightened. [Laughter] I was wondering if you could explain a little better about how the-- how our imitation meditation works.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you said it. [Laughs; laughter]\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I didn't say anything! [Laughter]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you insist! [Laughter, laughs]\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You're welcome! [Laughter, Trungpa Rinpoche laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2002.0,2172.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\n\r\nSPEAKER5: In one of the seminary tapes you use the word \"leap,\" and you used it again tonight, and I don't understand what you--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\n\r\nSPEAKER5: You used the word \"leap\" and I don't under--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Leap\"?\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah, I don't understand what you mean by that.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a \"leap,\" [laughter] you know. Let go!\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Oh.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you find yourself walking and then find-- you find yourself there's no ground to walk, and you find yourself enormous cliff, that you lost your ground, and the only way to do is just to go along with it. And that happens in life, and I wouldn't suggest you do it literally [laughter] -- metaphorically or psychologically speaking. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2172.0,2229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, in regard to meditation practice, is the loneliness that you speak of an attitude that we cultivate or a given fact of the situation?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. It's both. And more-- actually much more on to the given situation. Sometimes if you take that attitude it could be a source of security, which then you find you can keep company with your loneliness. [Laughs]\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Thanks.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you bring my glasses?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2229.0,2276.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Would you say more about the element of naivete involved in spontaneity?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's purely question of, some strange reason, mixture of naivete and pride, and you be successful in conning yourself constantly, and actually you be able to achieve the achievement of the whole thing. And you develop your own version of a kind of special trade, a successful business in which that you could be snobbish and you could be resourceful, one-upmanship, and at the same time you can let go. And those are the kind of situation that happens with the naivete -- is usually, basically speaking, except underdeveloped child, the most of the people, adult level anyway, they are not really naive, nobody's actually naive at all, but they play the game of being naive because they know that they are getting out of it, they could get into it very easily, there is-- even if they made mistake, they could be pardoned, dishonorable charge-- discharge, honorable discharge whatever is call it.\n\r\nSPEAKER7: It's like playing like you're ignorant then?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well in a-- with a certain sense of intelligence obviously.\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yeah, I see. Thank you.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2276.0,2404.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, can you say something about the idea of spontaneity in relationship to the creative process?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think if you list them down, if you named one after another, the possibilities of it, then it cease to become creative. So, in order to be creative and spontaneous is we have to experience it, we have to do it -- otherwise we kill the whole thing. It's up to you.\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I'm just-- I'm thinking about the statement that you made about dharma art, the idea of nonaggression, and that relationship to spontaneity.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, well it's nonaggression. Simply what you are experiencing there is not particularly connected with the pull and push area, give and take, but it is expression of what you are, what you have. And consequently, by strange coincidence, that your product of your work has become masterpiece.\n\r\nSPEAKER8: How does that relate to, in terms of art, the idea of doing something for making a statement about something? Is there spontaneity involved in that process?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Make a statement about something?\n\r\nSPEAKER8: To create a piece of artwork for instance, to make a statement about something.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Such as?\n\r\nSPEAKER8: A preconceived notion of wanting to make a statement about something, rather than having it just be a spontaneous, meditative kind of experience?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean, all arts are-- all the work of art that so far we know is inherited from generations and generations in the past, and we cannot produce a fresh art no longer. That most of the work of art is a product of some tradition or culture or something or other already. So we can't you know create a fresh thing, but it's not so much of that, in terms of product, but it's the attitude at the time. I mean in like the brush strokes of Zen school of art is already established tradition, and thangka paintings are already established tradition already, and even from that point of view that the even abstract art of the modern school also has its own concepts already established. So if you begin to fight back and try to yourself emerge from those established situations and make yourself unique, it is not possible at all. Is-- there's-- you have nothing left. And people tried all kinds of ways and all kinds of strange art objects being presented, [laughter] but still it remains in the realm of same kind of expressive art that is connected with tradition of some kind.\n\r\nSo I think if you're trying to escape from the means or the mediums that been presented, that there is no way out, we are stuck with it, in any case. But it's the attitude that behind the whole thing, which could be spontaneous and direct. And namely person should be trained right at the beginning as artist in a very orthodox-- almost orthodox and enlightened teacher, that person should be trained in a very conservative way; that goes with meditation, and art, music, anything. They should be trained in a very strict discipline in the beginning; and then, when you begin to feel you can afford to open yourself, and you can express yourself, and I think that spontaneity exist within that particular context. Because the basic point of spontaneity is possible is because there is exertion is possible, discipline is possible, therefore spontaneity is also possible at the same time. That's the basic point.\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2404.0,2726.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, when you were talking about the blockages that you experience during meditation, during the dathun I had some experience of physical blockages in my body, right; I'd feel like a sort of a clogged up feeling in various parts of my body. And I was wondering whether [laughs; laughter] this was a manifestation of something you were talking about and whether you can just-- you can do something physically. Like I especially got it in the chest area. Whether there's a physical thing you can do, as well as just sitting there and meditating.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do what?\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I don't know. I mean--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What you trying to find out?\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well, instead of just sitting there practicing following the breath, would there be anything else one would do to deal with this-- with the physical blockage? [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The idea of physical blockage is also, as we mentioned before, I talked before, it is a part of the textures of the path. That that's *it* -- that is your path. And you're trying to follow path rather than destroy the path. If you want to have a path to follow, you've got to have those. But those are not particularly regarded as bad, or good, or anything particularly, and this is not particularly regarded as masochistic, particularly, at all. That those things are necessary, those particular blockages and problems brings you down to earth level, that you actually feel that you are actually there, rather than drifting amongst cloud.\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Thank you.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2726.0,2867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Two questions. The spontaneity seems very seductive sometimes. For instance experiencing sense of spontaneity and joy and delight, somehow it seems to lead into the-- of kind of frivolous energy, and then all of a sudden you realize that the spontaneity is gone. [Laughs] How does the discipline work? Just a matter of seeing that happening all the time?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well discipline works with right at the beginning rather than discipline is trying to catch what is spontaneity afterwards, so spontaneity *is* discipline already at the beginning. That spontaneity has a sharp eye, clear seeing, *is* discipline already. So that seem to be the basic point. That when you feel that there is a delight-- delightfulness, that there is a sense of resourcefulness, sense of openness involved, those things can occur because that you're being disciplined. Otherwise you couldn't actually relate with them, this is just like something gliding off your hand, that you can't actually catch them. So in order to feel true appreciation of the spontaneity, that one has to have discipline at the same time. Discipline this sense not necessarily holding down, slowing down in any case, but actually making the connections with what's going on there. So it's a question of connection this point.\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But when it starts to feel like that frivolous energy is happening, and the spontaneity is lost--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not quite. When you begin to feel that the frivolous energies begin to take place, you have both the possibilities of tuning into discipline, as well as spontaneity, even then. So there is lots of room for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2867.0,2993.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Second question is something that came up during discussion group today, for me at least. It was that it seems that the whole path is permeated by a sense of ignorance, that the only reason we're practicing is because we feel ignorant. And, that isn't really the case, is it? In other words, [Laughter] I mean I've heard you talk about [laughs] the fact that, you know, the only thing we're going to finally realize is that there's nothing to realize, or there's no ignorance and therefore no enlightenment, etcetera. My question is, how does that relate to effort and energy? It seems to be binding, it seems to-- very-- be very painful for myself and a lot of-- I feel it around me, irritating, I mean-- oh, never mind. [Laughs; laughter]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think actually what you said is well said. [Laughter] The question of ignorance being path, or path exists because of ignorant, is precisely the case; that you don't make journey-- if you want to get from here to Boulder, we take the journey to Boulder because we are not in Boulder, otherwise we don't make journey, there's-- it's redundant. So, because you're not there, therefore you are doing it, because you have no idea what happens once you get there, and obviously that's the pattern, that's the obstacles and blockages we be talking about. But I don't think there is any problems with that. One has to relate with that as also being-- you are begin to see the certain aspect of the dharma, that is, you are maybe seeing vaguely, maybe seeing slightly clearly, maybe seeing more clearly, maybe seeing further clearly, but still you are seeing it, so you can look both ways. That you are being ignorant, at the same time you're being intelligent because you're ignorant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=2993.0,3145.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Can you say something about dealing with areas of personal weakness? If you perceive in yourself a weakness, a way you have of relating to some energy, something, how do you relate to that?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's also blockage. That you feel that the \"weakness\" is seem to be very polite way of putting \"lost of resourcefulness\" -- that not having enough energy, you have no resource anymore. And I think that's also the structure of the path, that there is a sense of that you've run out of your gasoline, you can't drive anymore. And there is a sense of being--\n\r\nCHILD IN AUDIENCE: Mommy! [Laughter] Mommy!\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --there is a sense of being confused. But I think you don't actually deal with being weak, but at the same you're being weak. You just do it, you just be with it, you just be weak. And then once you begin to be weak and then you begin to generate energy, because you been weak; in order to be weak you also need energy to be weak, otherwise you can't exist. And you are begin to appreciate something happening, which is a reminder, and actually that is takes place, take places in a room or place, whatever you like to call it, is begin to happen. There is a situation to be, to exist, because you're weak, which is very energetic.\n\r\nSPEAKER11: If you go-- if you see your weakness in-- you go in and you decide -- or you don't decide, there's no space to decide -- you just go into it, then what's the difference between-- how do you know when you're just being foolish and when you're actually doing something?\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One doesn't. But one has to do it, because you are up to your own resource, in any case.\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So you're advocating going into it, rather than--\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay. [Laughs; laughter]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Good luck!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=3145.0,3352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Does the qual-- does what you said about leaping, does that have anything to do with like the quality of dakinis? Or that energy? [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, not particularly. I think what we are talking about is a kind of in the beginner's level and has nothing to do with the dakinis or parachute, particularly. [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nSPEAKER12: There's nothing between like-- it seems like that taking a leap, or leaping, has something to do with recognition of space or openness.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. Obviously.\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Okay.\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But we don't have to give it a name, particularly, we just do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=3352.0,3413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87162/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, maybe we should close ourselves. [Laughter; laughs]\n\r\nThe further reference point to the fundraising pitch that's being done, and I would like to say something about it. And that what happening so far with our development in the community scene, so to speak scene, generally is concerned that there is a lot of energy, and people being able to practice more and work together, and the growth of community has been enormously energetic and practical, and at the same time honest and non-spiritual-materialistic. And such achievement has-- have come to situation. But in order to continue to proceed beyond this level, is that not so much of that particularly that tomorrow morning you come up with a fat check, as such, but I think the question that what we are involved is that if anyone who take part in here would care to take the attitude of there is need for help of some kind, and that's the some kind of question that we plant in your subconscious mind that you'll be haunted. [Laughter] And some kind of attitude is that taking personally rather than thinking in terms of that administrators might make-- might made a goof, therefore there's not money, and they mismanage and therefore there is a problem. Or maybe they can go by, you know, and they have done good work already, they survived already, why can't they survive in the future? And which is kind of impersonal attitude, and at the same time taking advantages in facilities with that kind of attitude is not very fair. And it doesn't seem to be a particularly kind attitude.\n\r\nSo the question is sort of taking very personally, and that you are here, I'm here, everybody's here. So we are sharing this earth, and particularly this particular patch on earth that we're sharing together, specifically, which is much more so than the usual sharing the earth, which you could come back and you could work with us, you could be here, and I could be here, and we all could be here. And this is a possibility of trying to recreate the sort of solid situation that we could be able to work in particularly the area of practice of meditation. This land is provided for that.\n\r\nSo, it's question of taking some kind of attitude of personal interest, which we need very much, rather than just purely as I mentioned coming up with the money necessarily on the spot. But we can't relax too much and we are in the questionable situation this point and we do need urgent help, but even then, let us not make that as purely urgent situation alone. But as our land payments grows larger and larger every year, and you have the knowledge already in this year, so if you could help us in the future reference or next year or the year after or whatever. And just keep that in mind, that it is very personal thing rather than purely organizational, bureaucracy, or red-tape level. So, keep that in mind, [laughs] and think about it, and maybe dream about it. [Laughter] Thank you.\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=3413.0,3688.69875"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740822VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=0.52,4.28"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Training the\nMind [retitled \"Foundations of\nMindfulness\"], held at Rocky\nMountain Dharma Center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=4.28,7.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number four,\nAugust 22nd, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=7.83,13.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made May 2007.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=13.0,18.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: Vajracharya,\nthe Venerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=18.83,22.13"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Training the Mind\n[retitled \"Foundations of\nMindfulness\"],","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=22.13,23.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a seminar\npresented at Rocky Mountain\nDharma Center","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=23.76,26.579"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the summer of 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712#t=26.659,29.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/163572/file/297712/transcript/87163/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is the fourth talk,\ngiven on August 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