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The necessity of receiving transmission from the guru as introduction to tantric world. Describes \"abhisheka\", \"initiation,\" as \"complete surrendering.\" The guru begins to mind your business completely, knows everything about you. Creates powerful even claustrophobic situation as \"samaya\", bond that introduces student to energies of tantric path. Describes \"dangers\" of vajrayana, but how it is only path allowing one to attain enlightenment in one lifetime. The final three, \"ultimate\" yanas are: mahayoga, anuyoga, and ati yoga. Highest teachings of Buddhism. Mahayoga involves changing consciousness, wearing neurosis as ornaments, generates dignity. Anuyoga goes even going beyond that, coordinating \"heart and brain\" in development of total freedom. Ati yoga simplifies everything to bare essentials, total nakedness, and highest levels of perception dawn. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses relationship of mahayana to vajrayana; former Seminary student David Darwent gives penetrating summary of three final yanas.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part One, Chapter 5: The Crazy-Wisdom Holder and the Student\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 01 2018 to Dec 17 2025 Transcribing: Nate Speare Checking: Mary Beth Kean Final Proof: Ella Milligan, Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFurther description of key aspects of tantric path; introduces three final yanas. The necessity of receiving transmission from the guru as introduction to tantric world. Describes \"abhisheka\", \"initiation,\" as \"complete surrendering.\" The guru begins to mind your business completely, knows everything about you. Creates powerful even claustrophobic situation as \"samaya\", bond that introduces student to energies of tantric path. Describes \"dangers\" of vajrayana, but how it is only path allowing one to attain enlightenment in one lifetime. The final three, \"ultimate\" yanas are: mahayoga, anuyoga, and ati yoga. Highest teachings of Buddhism. Mahayoga involves changing consciousness, wearing neurosis as ornaments, generates dignity. Anuyoga goes even going beyond that, coordinating \"heart and brain\" in development of total freedom. Ati yoga simplifies everything to bare essentials, total nakedness, and highest levels of perception dawn. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses relationship of mahayana to vajrayana; former Seminary student David Darwent gives penetrating summary of three final yanas.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/072/small/thumbnail_299072_1766175084.jpg?1766175109","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766174742_19731214vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4"]},"duration":5183.64513,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/072/small/thumbnail_299072_1766175084.jpg?1766175109","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/072/original/1766174742_19731214vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4?1766174770","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":5183.64513,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731214VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19731214VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - The Nine Yanas II - Talk 5]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tonight we are going to discuss further understanding of tantra. That there seem to be something actually missing when we discuss about basic meaning of tantra. That things we discussed so far can only come about, experience can only come about, by some kind of transmission from a guru or \"vidyadhara\", which means \"the holder of the crazy wisdom,\" and then certain transmission can take place. And when we're talking about this transmission it is purely a sense of enormous trust, and a sense of enormous sacrifice. That such sacrifice and trust can take place at the time of receiving abisheka. \"Abhisheka\" is a Sanskrit term which is commonly translated as \"initiation.\" But a sense of initiation here is not so much of accepting to the tribal situation, and that you have go through certain particular ceremony alone, but a sense of total, complete surrendering. And such surrendering could be impractical or highly unreasonable, from the ordinary point of view. But nevertheless, such sacrifice or such a bond need to be established before we begin to realize the sense of trust in the universe, as a potential enlightened, basic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=0.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to become enlightened from tantric point of view – which seems to be the only way of obtaining enlightenment is finally one has to go through tantric trainings in any case, but which demands enormous surrendering, enormous trust. Trust to the level that we cannot maintain our ego, we cannot maintain our basic existence as \"myself.\" That oneself has become completely dedicated and opened, at the level of surrendering to the world that your guru has created. That world that your guru has created is not particularly pleasant one; it could be horrific, unpleasant, that it could be beautiful at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=286.0,396.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason why that world that the guru has created is irritating one, that the guru act as beyond a spiritual friend, this point. And the guru at this point begin to act as a *dictator*; that who minds your business *completely* to the level of every inch of your life. And the guru has also the abilities to do such thing. Because he also knows every inch of your life, your state of consciousness: every little fractions of subconscious gossip, every fractions of little freckles of one's mind functions; that the guru has a complete understanding of it, altogether. That therefore you been completely *exposed*, highly exposed, fully exposed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=396.0,485.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore the tantric tradition is regarded as very dangerous. That traditional format is that you could either relate with your guru, make love to your guru, as a divine being, or else you could kill him. [Laughter] And the analogy for that is that putting a snake in a bamboo pipe: that either snake faces up or downward. That relating with a guru is very powerful -- *too*, too powerful as to be somebody minding your business in such style. And extremely horrific from that point of view. And extremely delightful gift at the same time nevertheless, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=485.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tantric transmission cannot take place without the guru. Without some kind of spokesman of the mandala’s perspective, generally. And that is one of the very basic point that we should be very clear: that entering the tantra… is hellish, shall we say? Because when the guru begin to manifest himself as somebody minds your business in a two hundred percent level, and we bound to feel extraordinarily claustrophobic of course. [Laughter] That he's not only minding our business but he's also minding our business of our business. [Laughter] Seeing through inside out, outside in. Which is extraordinarily powerful, extraordinarily paranoid situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=565.0,658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Without the guru's consent, without the guru's acknowledgment of you as a good vessel, a full vajrayana, and you don't get anything out of it at all. That the guru act as the channel in both creative and destructive. And he could destroy you instantly, and he could build you instantly at the same time. That seem to be very definite [brings fan down on arm of chair], and very obvious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=658.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we begin to approach towards idea of tantra, that we are approaching towards more and more and more into the magical aspect of a cosmic structure. Which has nothing to do with a miracle as such, but magical in the sense of that the certain energies, certain mysteries that we never had tapped before – we haven't understood them or we haven't had guts to relate with them anymore. And now we are going into tantra and your guru is beginning to initiate you into tantric situation, and you are begin to tap untapped areas that which we usually leave alone, which we daring to work with. So we are getting into a very powerful situation there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=723.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in fact the power of the guru is referred as that \"he who present the samaya vow.\" \"Samaya\", s-a-m-a-y-a, samaya. Which is translated in Tibetan, \"tamtsik,\" which is establishing a certain bond. Analogous to electrified fence that you keep your cows around. [Laughter] That if you begin to touch that, or try to play with that fence, which is highly electrified, you're going to get a shock. Not only you get a shock but once you begin to play with it, trying to get out of it, you're going to get destroyed. Destruction does not necessarily mean death alone, but you will end up yourself in what's called \"vajra hell,\" which is a very powerful hell. That even the greatest spiritual strengths cannot rescue you. That that particular hell is neither down or nor up. Which is a self-existing imprisonment, in which that your neurosis begin to become vibrating constantly all the time. That pleasure and pain both become part of imprisonment. That you are trapped in that particular hell, which is there's no remedy, there's no freedom for at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=779.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the reason why that is why that tantra is referred as very dangerous thing to get into, *and* a very powerful thing to get into. That tantra only can produce enlightenment one's-- one lifetime. That only tantra can produce that. There's no other doctrine or no other teachings in the Buddhism at all, none whatsoever, including the sudden [satori] teachings of Zen of mahayana tradition, whatever, cannot deliver you one’s lifetime enlightenment. Tantra is the *only* – *the* and *only* path in which that we could attain enlightenment in one lifetime. [Laughs; laughter] It's true. [Laughter] [Lifts his glass to the audience;  laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=895.0,975.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is like same situation is like taking a supersonic jet. Either it is-- the jet is going to destroy your life instantaneously because so fast, or else it's going to deliver you to more advanced place. Have breakfast in Tokyo, and lunch in London, and dinner in New York. It's very fast. At the same time it's very powerful. That you even don't have a chance to aware of your death, that you are just dead instantaneously on the spot, in mid-air. Supersonic jet – a \"diamond vehicle.\" Vajrayana, which means \"diamond vehicle,\" supersonic jet. It's *very* powerful. I don't have to go through the whole process how it's powerful but you'll find out. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=975.0,1075.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The holder of such a doctrine is also very powerful at the same time. The holder of doctrine is also, has in league with death; at the same time has in league with the Buddha. Not just ordinary buddha but the buddha of the highest of all -- dharmakaya buddha. [Laughs] [laughter] Therefore the guru, or *vajra* guru we might say, has enormous power over your life. That he is completely has control of the phenomenal world. He has the capability of controlling your life; either to destroy or to create -- to become enlightened person. It's very powerful commitment that one's making.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1075.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason why I have to say such thing here is that I would like to let people know that to think thrice. What you are getting-- what you're about to get into, or what you are if possible at all, getting into is very powerful, very dangerous thing that you're getting into. And particularly, without any hinayana and mahayana discipline at all, is out of the question. *Out* of the question. But even if you go through such process of hinayana and mahayana *and* vajrayana, still it is dangerous, to get into this. Vajrayana discipline is very powerful, magnificently powerful, fantastically powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1138.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As it has been described, committing oneself to the vajrayana teaching is inviting poisonous snake into bed, and making love to it. [Laugher] Once you are capability of making love to such a poisonous snake, it is fantastically pleasurable. That you are churning anti-death potion on the spot, by making love to such poisonous snake. That whole snake becomes anti-death potion, and eternal joy, at the same time. But if you make a wrong move that poisonous snake is going to destroy you on the spot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1209.0,1305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Many years ago that I was hesitant to discuss such a subject in America. That I thought maybe I should keep myself too conservative, and discuss the basics-ness of Buddhism; not discuss anything of this at all. But now, a lot of hints. From the development of my students are making their-- they begin to stick their necks out, and their eyes begin to light. And maybe it is time to proclaim the vajrayana victory. And, at this point, it is no longer my responsibility anymore; it's *your* responsibility. [Laughter] Which I am happy to present whatever. [laughter] Give you everything right here, have discovered, learned. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1305.0,1383.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also feel very fortunate that I could speak such open way, to such a group of people, who are open to this. And I feel that at least we are making some kind of headway, open situation, into establishing hundred percent Buddhism in this country. Without vajrayana, that we don't have a *head*. Hinayana is we are just discussing the feet-- foot. Discussing mahayana, we are discussing purely heart. But Buddhism without head is dead. And therefore I feel very happy that we could actually speak such a frank and beautiful way. That we could share my understandings, my loneliness, of not able to communicate to anybody. And finally I am able to do so. I feel very fortunate, rediscovering new friend; that who will be listen to-- who be willing to listen to such thing is enormous, very moving situation for me personally. But nevertheless we should be very careful [laughter], that danger that we're getting into is enormous. At this point, as I said already that I am not going to take responsibilities, and *you* are going to take responsibilities, every one of you -- if I may say so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1383.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What we are saying is a very powerful, very dangerous thing. We are discussing one of the most secret and sacred thing of ever heard on this *Earth*. It's very powerful, very dangerous. People think atomic bomb is powerful: maybe physically, but we are talking about psychological atomic bomb, actually. Which is *so* powerful, million times more powerful than the physical atomic bomb. And I want you to appreciate this opportunity, or get terrified of this opportunity, [laughing] whatever. It's a very serious matter that we are doing here. That you have a unique situation here to listen to such doctrine, such teachings. Which has never been proclaimed in this country, *at all*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1502.0,1606.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You should regard yourself as very fortunate people, every one of you. Unique people. [Laughs] I'm not saying this because I want to intimidate you, particularly, but I want to share *my* responsibility with *you*. Your responsibility is that you people came and listened to such seminar, therefore I be compelled to speak to you, on this subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1606.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we had a very beautiful Seminary up in Jackson Hole. That we had a chance to discuss the details of vajrayana path, as fullest we could. And that opened the door, or the gate of the teachings. That I feel that I can relate with every one of you, with a new understanding of complete teachings of Buddhism, whatever that may be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1658.0,1701.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And another thing is there's what's called \"open secret\", which is \"self-secret\", that you may not be able to hear it, understand it, because your own trips, speed, and confusion. That it is a safe precaution that has already developed. That you are not ready to hear such thing, you don't hear it, and what I have to say it become purely gibberish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1701.0,1757.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What you're getting into is very powerful. I want you to know this is the case. That we're going to discuss about the remaining three yanas of vajrayana tonight. Last night we discussed about somebody who has worn jewelry, have bathed, have worn clothes, you have jewelries worn; we got that point. Next three yanas are described as the \"ultimate yanas,\" \"complete yanas,\" as far as we can go, as far as Buddhism is concerned at all, enlightenment is concerned at all. And those three yanas are what's called mahayogayana; upayoga, upa, u-p-a yoga yana; and the atiyoga, a-t-i yoga, are the further-est point that-- of enlightenment that Buddhism can *ever* present you *at all*. That's the rock bottom, that's dead-*end* point of Buddhism; that's the highest point that Buddhism can present you. And that is the dead-end point in which that you *should* attain enlightenment, you *should* be. You are demand to be enlightened, that point. Final point, Buddhism. And you be guaranteed to become enlightened, once you get into the highest point of atiyoga; you have no choice. And you will become enlightened, fullest of fullest of the fullest of the fullest of *all*. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1757.0,1946.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the mahayoga is concerned, we discussed the other day about the-- yesterday about the idea of putting clothes and ornaments on you. It's not so much of putting clothes of ordinary clothings, but going back to ape instinct at this point. Headdress of jewel and gold; instead you wear headdress of skulls. Instead of wearing ordinary skirt, you wear a tiger-skin skirt. Instead of wearing ordinary shawl you wear human-skin shawls. You begin to change your perspective the world: that organic way of getting back to world is much different than that. Which is very interesting approach, would you say? It's the hint of savageness, the hint of craziness, the hint of crazy wisdom is begin take place. Having bathed, purified, now you begin to wear skins, bone ornaments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=1946.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The consciousness begin to change at that level, mahayogayana. Some kind of dignity begin to take place. Fearlessness of blood, fearlessness of earth, and a fearlessness of human skull and skin. Stripping out all kinds of purified situations that we have done before, previous yanas. Which have been very *genteel* approach, trying to make ourselves into emperor or king. Have bathed and wear beautiful clothes, and wearing jewelries of all kinds. Now we begin to look into another kind of approach, this point. A sense of reality of a different nature. That the neurosis are no longer regarded as \"bad\", as such at all. But neurosis is being regarded as *ornament*, delightful ornament, *real* ornament. That we could wear them, we could adorn ourselves with all kinds of neurosis that we have. It's *fantastic*, proclamation of *sanity* in fact. Let alone being ape but sanity ape, monkey, enlightened monkey. [Laughs; laughter] That's why I said vajrayana is very dangerous, and very freaky; nevertheless, here it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2081.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A willing to swim among shit pile, again, once more. Willing to endorn ourselves with bones and skulls and skins. Very organic. Maybe we could say macrobiotic, [laughter] of the ultimate macrobiotic. That we begin to realize ourselves as already a divine being – without fear, none whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2200.0,2285.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next yana is anuyogayana. In which that the sense of indulgence in such trip is *also* trip. Abiding oneself in a neurosis of fermented… what's the word – fermented manure, is also problem. That maybe we are trying to get ourselves into too much into that \"organic\" trip. That we even don't care about that. And then we begin to take off our costumes, strip out. There's no need for being dressed as… vampires, or imitating vampires, as herukas as such, at all. That we begin to lose that kind of perspective. And we are– begin to relate with more of our heart and brain. At that point The Tibetan Book of the Dead, that describes the wrathful herukas come out of your brain, and the peaceful herukas come out of your heart, takes place. That more coordination with a \"vajra-type\" of heart and brain, at the same time. That that level you begin to develop enormous sense of that you are conqueror of the *whole* universe. You have no fear at all beyond that. The sense of freedom, of that even you don't have to take the costume off and conquerer of the universe anymore. You transcend apeness *altogether*. And maybe you become transcendental ape, whatever. It's very powerful, and then you begin to see the panoramic openness, fantastic notion of conqueror, being conquered, and you're just reviewing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2285.0,2478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the next level is ati yana, which is you don't even need such outfit, of anything at all; dressing or undressing in this fashion. Once again you exposed your naked body -- no clothes at all, none whatsoever. You don't even have to bathe anymore; you are what you are. That only relationship that you have is your sense perceptions. Visual, smell, sound, touchable objects, taste. That those sense perceptions begin to become guidelines: that when you hear sound, you relate with that very simply, as part of a reminder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2478.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When you see a vision of colors, whatever; you see it from that way, very simply. Which is extraordinarily high level, extraordinarily high level of perception. There we are; we came back where we are, back to square one. That we begin to realize that journey has never need to be made. That all the journeys are fooling ourselves. That the journey itself become endless journey, so therefore there's no point in making journey at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2540.0,2627.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: STUDENT PRESENTATION]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: David? I thought maybe David could tell you what he had learned. And after that we could have discussions on that.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID DARWENT: I thought I'd talk just for a little while about some of the problems that I, and maybe we, at the seminary had in approaching this whole thing. And then summarize very briefly, in five minutes, some aspects of the last three yanas. It seems one of the really difficult, and critical things about vajrayana -- apart from its obvious dangers, which were pointed out -- is that we have this tremendous need to understand all the time. And that seems to be a tremendous hangup. That somehow tantra is not understandable in that way, in that kind of materialistic way which we tend to grasp teachings with. Rinpoche talked even at the seventh bhumi in the mahayana, of how the bodhisattva, that level, needs to develop tremendous ability to withstand dissatisfaction, of not being able to understand, not being able to secure himself by understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nMuch of the whole thing seems to require-- get respect for symbolism. And I think that word \"symbol\", which always comes into the mandala and all the other aspects of it, is kind of tricky. The way I've understood it is that symbol is not a thing which \"stands for\" something but *is*, of itself. And in that sense the deity, or the psychological manifestation *is* the object. That I think David Rome was talking about last night, that real and absolute truth are one and the same thing to tantra. And which is that probably the reason for its existence at all. That somehow the mahayana ends up with this very clear, empty place, which itself becomes a secure home which again has to be cut down.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd so I remember at the seminary we were faced with tremendous resistance, to the teachings. Because that understanding was being challenged yet again, you know, by something more thorough. Rinpoche said that in tantra, we are no longer trying to \"be\" what we are, we are *just* what we are. And the mahayana is sort of a-- still an attempt to do or be or create something, a sort of ethical system perhaps. And here, we see a situation where we just are what we are without any need to cling or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnuttarayoga, which I guess is the old form, which encompasses the three which Rinpoche's has talked about, is beyond interpretation, beyond literal truth. So that things simply are as they are and they don't require interpretation, at any level. Because the practitioner doesn't require the security of understanding, in that way, that material kind of way. So that the mystical and the ordinary become the same thing. You know, that the microphone is a microphone when it's just a symbol of itself, so that... there aren't two kinds of awareness anymore, you know. Clear bright awareness and ordinary awareness are the same thing. Relative and absolute truth have become identical.\r\n\r\n\r\nDo you want me to go into some of the practices?\r\n\r\n\r\nAnuttarayoga has four preliminary practices called \"ngondro.\" Which are long-term sort of commitment practices. And each of them consist of a hundred thousand, as a sort of symbolic number, which takes a lot of practice, individual practices -- a hundred thousand prostrations with the refuge chant; a hundred thousand incantations of Vajrasattva mantra. A hundred thousand what are called mandala offerings -- offering the whole universe as self; and then the practice of the guru yoga mantra. And that leads into the-- what are called the \"four yogas of mahamudra.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nIt seems at this point that there's still a problem of synchronizing body and mind. That even having practiced all these prostrations, which seems to be a powerful way of doing that, there's still that problem. And so there are a whole set of practices devoted to synchronizing the operation of body with mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's followed by two -- whose distinctions I haven't picked up at all -- known as \"one taste\" or \"one flavor.\" Which I picked up as meaning that there's-- the one-tasteness is simply that the issue of duality and nonduality isn't relevant anymore. One taste meaning that we're simply involved in a world which-- in which symbol and object are the same thing. So there's no discrimination between those two. And the final practice is called \"the state of nonmeditation.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nThis puts the practitioner -- or the practitioner develops then -- tremendous power because, as it says in the sadhana, \"he destroy--\" what is it -- \"destroys whatever needs to be destroyed, cares for whatever needs his care,\" and so on. Which sort of points up the dangers that Rinpoche was talking about, because that puts the practitioner *way* beyond any ethical system. And the dangers of rudrahood are obvious at that point because he's acting completely in relation to whatever the situation demands. And if that's from rudra, then I suppose we get people like Hitler.\r\n\r\n\r\nMahayoga was described as a \"super anuttarayoga,\" in which the visualization practices are going beyond the point of the practitioner watching the deities, independent of himself, and be coming to the point where the practitioners *identify* with those deities. So that becomes even more dangerous and even more powerful. And as that progresses then the final yogas get beyond visualization, to a place where that's unnecessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe main practices of mahayoga are involved with things called \"eight logos\", \"practice of eight mandalas.\" Which are also in some sense eight powers, eight siddhas. One of those, a powerful and interesting one, is called \"mother's curse.\" Which refers to the kind of message one can pick up from very ordinary realities, in this case, menstrual period. That every month a woman is reminded that she is not pregnant. It's really-- it's a simple direct message which is self-evident, doesn't require any interpretation. But the problem is that that might be uncomfortable or painful or whatever. And that it seems that that-- you know we take that, interpret that, into every situation which can happen in everybody's life. That that immediate kind of way in which situations speak, is just direct experience, and there's no need to deal with emptiness, or see things as empty or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo that point, I guess we're getting to the point where instead of form being emptiness, emptiness being form, we're now dealing with form is form, emptiness is emptiness. It's sort of like a full circle -- back to a really direct notion of what a notebook is or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnuyoga is described as the indivisibility of space and wisdom. That as this feeling is developed, or these practices have developed, we go to a point where passion begins to play an important part. Passion in the sense that the practitioner is involved in making love to his projections. That implies that there is a world of duality again. That the whole thing's turned upside down. If there's a lover, and an action of making love, there has to be a lover and an object, of that devotion. In that sense compass-- passion becomes compassion, because the practitioner's passion is so powerful that he just jumps into every situation. The idea is that a flame could become like a river or vice-versa. That there's so much *intensity*, in dealing with every situation in the world, that the two become one; it isn't at this point that there is only one, and the idea that we're all one has been dropped. There are two but the involvement between the two creates the sense of oneness. That, I suppose from anu's point of view means that nonduality -- the *idea* of nonduality, the idea of shunyata, is being transcended in some way, because that was sort of a trip. That emptiness became yet another place to stand on. Even the emptiness of emptiness, became yet another place to hang onto, a secure home, which is torn down by this new yoga.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo what happens, and it seems that, having developed selflessness or egolessness -- or whatever that term is -- selflessness now needs a companion. So another self is created, simply to dance with these projections, to be totally involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nAti is -- I don't know [laughs]... It seems to be like a complete, extreme development of this. To the point where not even replacing emptiness with duality and getting back into samsara is an action, or an involvement -- or anything. At this point, the \"path of nonmeditation\" or \"no more learning,\" is simply a situation where we are, quote, \"we are what we are.\" We don't have to \"be\" anything anymore. The whole of technique which has been involved in the lower yanas is just consumed, it's not necessary. And it turns out that the technique itself became a hangup. And it's-- in ati that simply falls away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGA RINPOCHE: We could open the discussion.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Whispers, to David Darwent] No, stay here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=2627.0,3613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I thought today of this getting back into duality, and I thought that there are two, there must be two considerable changes. One is that the being that gradually comes into existence, the basic being is no longer a limited and feeble imitation that is ego. And second, that they operate that they're in, in which this being operates, is not a territory, but open space. And I also thought of something you mentioned -- responsibility. And I thought of responsibility today. And I thought it's nothing more than a-- perhaps than a drive of energy, and it can be irresistible. I don't know if that's so or not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID DARWENT: Could you say again about responsibility, Lila?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: That there is some energy that has a certain direction and a certain dynamic, and which one can either follow or try not to follow.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID DARWENT: Yeah, I thought... I mean it seems this whole thing is there, so powerful in energy, that if one chooses not to follow then we have this whole idea -- only reality, excuse me -- of vajra hell. That, you know, that this kind of practices and this involvement in tearing away the ground, of what has been created in the mahayana, of a very beautiful, empty and exquisite place and creating what looks like sort of savagery initially, is very... I mean it seems that in order to do that, there must be a very powerful kind of energy running, you know, which is not, particularly, mine or yours or controllable. And my sense of it is I'm terrified, you know, that the whole thing could fall apart at any moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: True. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=3613.0,3762.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, you talked at great length about the dangers that attend the path. And I just am very much puzzled by it, that there are dangers. For if the object of the whole exercise is to get out and forget and annihilate the ego, what *can* the dangers *be*? Because the dangers as I see them, can only relate to what is *left* of the ego. I read this morning--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You said it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You said it. [Clicking sound] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: I read this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I think the only danger is that getting back to ego, and it becoming solidified, by all kinds of techniques that you acquired.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, this morning, I read the chod ritual, where you offer yourself -- your bones, your flesh -- to the hungry ghosts. And you may, as in Alexandra's [Alexandra David-Neel] book there [MAGIC AND MYSTERY] -- you freak out, you go completely crazy. but that is then not a danger anymore. It is a danger to that old ego, but not to your true self.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, danger that you have done such sacrifice; that you feel begin to congratulate yourself, because you have done such a magnificent act.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=3762.0,3854.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nJOSEPH PARENT: It seems like from what you said about atiyoga -- that the seeing what we see and hearing what we hear -- that we could do that right now. I mean, I'm-- that we could do [laughing] that right now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But you don't want to believe in that -– that we could do it right now. Therefore we need some other path to lead you into it.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOSEPH PARENT: Hmm. Some courage.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Some courage, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJOSEPH PARENT: Get rid of doubt?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And some kind of fooling you, that you put enough energy to get into this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=3854.0,3908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: John?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN: You mention-- spoke of the vajrayana path as one that could lead, within this lifetime, to enlightenment; the only path that could. Yet in the bodhisattva vows, we vow *not* to enter enlightenment until all sentient beings are enlightened. Doesn't this present a contradiction?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so at all. In fact that that's the trick of vajrayana -- mahayana path, that you should give up. You are not going to attain enlightenment *at all*. That you going to work with sentient beings. And vajrayana is you are going to attain enlightenment in one lifetime. Both work *together*. In the mahayana tradition, that you are not going to attain enlightenment is because cut your speed, ambition. In the vajrayana you begin to develop your *pride*, vajra pride, dignity at the same time. Which is saying the same thing. In other word you're not-- \"you\" can't become Buddha, in any case, at all. That you-\"ness,\" you-\"less,\" \"un-you,\" [laughter] \"non-you\" is going to attain enlightenment. I mean that logic follows all the time, that \"you\" can't attain enlightenment *in any case* at all. \"You\" cannot attain enlightenment. Maybe non-you, un-you, can attain enlightenment. Good luck! [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=3908.0,4033.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Has someone who, say, studied at a Zen monastery for a long time, can they experience sudden enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID DARWENT: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nothing to do with particularly Zen monastery is not particularly important. Or somebody *is* not particularly important. So both of them -- being Zen monastery and *you* being-- studying in Zen monastery doesn't make any sense particularly. But actually the question is that have you actually been there? Have you actually been *in* that situation, and have you actually worked, without it being aware of \"Zen monastery,\" or being \"you\" being in Zen monastery? It's very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But if they-- you know, the enlightenment experiences which you read about, you know, have they gone through tantric transmission?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Aside to David Darwent] The enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID DARWENT: The enlightenment [INAUDIBLE] we read about, have those people gone through tantric transmission? Maybe from Zen tradition or somewhere?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Depends. Sure. I think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In that case would you say that Suzuki Roshi was a tantric master?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. Good for him! [Laughter] [Ring gong]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=4033.0,4160.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Rinpoche, you suggest to think twice –- about what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I say, \"Think thrice.\" [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What's the other choice besides the path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=4160.0,4182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Have you experienced vajra hell?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. But I am not *in* them. I experience enough to tell people what's all about. Which is very hair-raising. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But you said no one-- you just said that no one-- no amount of spiritual strength could get you out of vajra hell once you've got in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE. Yeah. True. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So you're still in vajra hell.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can experience a glimpse of it. But once you get into it nobody can rescue you *at all*. You are stuck there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So you haven't been *in* it. You've experienced it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't think so; I would seem to be in Boulder, Colorado. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=4182.0,4252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: The mahayana-- hinayana and mahayana being prerequisites for tantric practice. The American Indians' spirituality, having been labeled by yourself tantric, the American Indian not having heard of hinayana and mahayana, how does that work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very simple. American Indians have domestic affairs, and their sense of relate with their own tribes. And the terms doesn't matter really, but it's basic sanity that, you know: be on Earth, learn how to cook on the fire, learn how to cook a good meal, learn how to share with your fellow tribes. Very simple. And they don't have to know the idea of terms as such; terms is just purely labels.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Okay. And if, in fact, tantra is the only way we can, as you said, accomplish or attain enlightenment in this lifetime, hinayana, mahayana being prerequisites, how can we know what we've been doing in previous lifetimes? That is to say...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Previous lifetimes, you maybe working towards this.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Hinayana, mahayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's why you're here, maybe. And that's why you are become one of the fortunate person who could hear the dharma properly. That's why your previous birth brought you here. You maybe a good cat [laughter], who heard the dharma recited by your parents. Or you could be a dumb kid who heard of the teachings, and you're *here*. Anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nThere's no reason you are not here. Because you *are* here. I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=4252.0,4410.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, where along the line would you transcend birth and death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the level of no speed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: No speed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No speed. 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That [laughs] hinayana and mahayana training you’re, you know, essential. But perhaps not to that extreme degree, and it turns out we might already have blown it. You know that we could well be shot down the tubes, and we might not even know that. Right? Mhhm?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ERIC: Well, I was sort of relating it, you know, from another place, looking at sort of the foundation basically being the hopelessness experience, which would be... I'd rather like to do it in a primitive level, and to try to see if the place would be-- a frame could be put around it, because I think there's a different frame to the mood of my question. So I would look at the hopelessness as being completely realized when this luxurious feeling would come about; that one could really feel a real-- very luxurious with this grain of sand feeling. In other words this would be completely comfortable, very luxurious. And then I would take sort of this-- I would do like the skin being the hinayana, the itch being the mahayana, and scratching the itch would sort of be what I would feel tantra would be. But this poisonous snake seems much more potent to me than where I am. Which is much more interesting. And I would prefer that Trungpa would answer it personally.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Here we go. You are grain of sand, right? Grain of sand, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ERIC: Well I really don't know-- I'm more-- I feel I'm more illiterate. Because I met you two and a half years ago, and I never even knew what meditation was, and so I'm not-- I haven't got any real feeling about what Zen is. The only feeling I have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well therefore you are grain of sand.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ERIC: What’s a grain of sand? Grain-- oh, grain of sand!\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: You are a grain of sand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And you are also a poisonous snake at the same time. So what we have here is a grain of sand which is a poisonous snake. [Laughter] Which is *good*! Which is fantastic. That as far as grain of sand is concerned, couldn't do better job than that! Hallelujah! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED ERIC: Hallelujah.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Rings gong]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hallelujah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=4637.0,5008.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: This sort of refers to what David was just saying, about sort of, like, that the whole thing's going on all at once. And he said that we might be down the tubes and not even know it. Now where is down the tubes? 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That's what I meant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5008.0,5098.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87953/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should end our meeting here tonight. \r\n\r\n\r\nOne of the things that I would like to let you know is that what we are discussing is outrageous, and extraordinarily powerful. And I want you to appreciate it; that you may not have a chance to hear it again. Thank you. [Rings gong, deadens] Goodnight! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Yeah. 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That's what I meant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5088.54,5094.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87954/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should end\nour meeting here tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5098.91,5102.74"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87954/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One of the\nthings that I would like\nto let you know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5106.75,5110.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87954/annotation/979","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that what we are\ndiscussing is outrageous,\nand extraordinarily powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5112.93,5128.045"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87954/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I want you to appreciate it;","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072#t=5128.045,5131.97"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164325/file/299072/transcript/87954/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you may not have a chance\nto hear it again. 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