{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/hd7np1xm70/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1978-08-09: Naropa Institute: Becoming a Full Human Being: Meeting with MA Psychology Students"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1978-08-09"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Meeting"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/245/show\"\u003eNaropa Institute: Psychology and Psychotherapy Events\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Becoming a Full Human Being: Meeting with MA Psychology Students"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Psychology and Psychotherapy"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["In meeting with psychology students, Trungpa Rinpoche addresses becoming a \"full human being\", attaining a state of wakefulness, and inspiring others to the do same.. Psychology program as focused on the mind, and patterns of behavior, that can be worked with and studied.  From Buddhist point of view, contemporary approaches to psychology involve \"psychological materialism\" -- trying to make everything fit into proscribed compartments, with no room for spontaneity or humanness.  Developing warmth towards oneself is described as key.  Appreciating simplicity rather than trying to overanalyze; the more simplicity the more profound one's understanding.  Which applies to everything, not just psychology. Q \u0026amp; A Highlights:  [Q2, Q4]  Relationship of therapy and sitting practice. [Q15-18] ] Working with people's lives in the present rather than focusing on their case histories."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Sanity We are Born With","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 02"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: THE SANITY WE ARE BORN WITH: Part 3: Psychology: Chapter 14: Becoming a Full Human Being\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-sanity-we-are-born-with-1298.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 2: Selected Writings: Becoming a Full Human Being\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-383.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nOriginally published in Awakening the Heart: East/West Approaches to Psychotherapy and the Healing relationship, edited by John Welwood (Shambhala Publications, 1985)\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nBased on an article by the same title previously published in The Naropa Institute Journal of Psychology 1, no. 1 (1980)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Mar 24 2020 to May 25 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1978"]}}],"summary":{"en":["In meeting with psychology students, Trungpa Rinpoche addresses becoming a \"full human being\", attaining a state of wakefulness, and inspiring others to the do same.. Psychology program as focused on the mind, and patterns of behavior, that can be worked with and studied.  From Buddhist point of view, contemporary approaches to psychology involve \"psychological materialism\" -- trying to make everything fit into proscribed compartments, with no room for spontaneity or humanness.  Developing warmth towards oneself is described as key.  Appreciating simplicity rather than trying to overanalyze; the more simplicity the more profound one's understanding.  Which applies to everything, not just psychology. Q \u0026amp; A Highlights:  [Q2, Q4]  Relationship of therapy and sitting practice. [Q15-18] ] Working with people's lives in the present rather than focusing on their case histories."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/424/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469822","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19780809VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4844.72163,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/168/424/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1666469822","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/168/424/original/19780809VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1665520006","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4844.72163,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780809VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19780809VCTR1 - Naropa Institute - Becoming a Full Human Being - Talk To Naropa MA Psychology Students]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Naropa Institute meeting with M.A. Psychology students, on \"Becoming a Full Human Being\", recorded in Boulder, Colorado, on August 9th, 1978. This is a CTI auto-remaster made March, 2020.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be the meeting of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche with Naropa Institute, Psychology Program M.A. students, at Marpa House on August 9th, 1978.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=0.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: INTRODUCTION]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --growth and expansion of the psychology program to continually check in with the founders and the continuing inspiration for this program. And so we're enormously appreciative and privileged that the president of Naropa Institute can be with us tonight to discuss the problems and the future of the psychology program. I think it's appropriate that we're all here to question the path that we're on in regard to this program, just at the time of its really initial growth and full expansion into the Boulder community. As it's happened this morning, when Boulder Community Mental Health Center negotiated a formal contract for internships with this program.\r\n\r\n\r\nI would like to present this as a token of appreciation for this discussion with the program. So, ladies and gentlemen, the Vajracharya.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=45.0,147.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I didn't quite expect such audience. The work that we are involved is basically how far we could become a full human being, and how we could inspire that kind of full human being-ness to other people who feels doubt about themselves. And the concept of \"full human being\" here is not so much of that somebody who can eat, sleep, and shit, and talk, but person with some kind of basic state of wakefulness -- which actually might be asking somewhat too much if you look at from term \"wakefulness\", but on the other hand, the notion of wakefulness is very close to us. And we can actually do it and we are touching it all the time. So the psychology program particularly is dealing with mind, and coming out of mind all sorts of behavior patterns and all sorts of expressions could be studied and worked with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=147.0,316.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We know that there are some problems with the conventional concept of psychology approach, which is from a Buddhist point of view what's known as \"psychological materialism\", where that we try to pinpoint, categorize, and try to make the whole thing into very neat pigeonholing, which is becoming a problem. And there's not enough room and space for spontaneity or humanness in it. So, work we trying to do here is trying to develop in such style in which that the basic spontaneity and basic sense of humanness can be expanded further, so that things don't have to be compartmentalized. And moreover there is a tremendous sense of warmth -- and warmth to oneself to begin with and then that warmth is expanded to others. So that working with disturbed people, or working with each other, working with oneself, become almost one level situation all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=316.0,421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, this is question of not so much of theory and concept but personal experience of their own existence-- our own existence, could be felt fully and thoroughly so that we feel genuine people and true human being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=421.0,445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that seem to be it. [Laughter; laughs] We could have a discussion if you like on that. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=445.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Main point might be is appreciating the simplicity rather than trying to split hair, so that more we understand simplicity, then we find our understanding is more profound, and it begin to make sense much more than too much speculation -- which applies to not only psychology alone but applies to everything. Suppose it applies to art and linguistics for instance even, science, anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=464.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, would you say that the main difference between working with people from a Buddhist point of view instead of a Western point of view is that working with people from a Buddhist point of view has to do with a sense of shunyata and a sense of spaciousness? That there’s no point in solidifying somebody's trip of being ill or...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose so. The question is some kind of-- when the person begin to feel that they are not being pigeonholed or they be made into a certain particular category, and if there is some basic genuine connection is taking place by two people. And then that person begin to let go, and in fact begin to explore you, or you begin to explore them. So, there is some kind of unspoken friendship, which is shunyata must be accompanied with karuna at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=522.0,593.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Can I ask one more thing? Sort of the all-time question: What do you do if the person is not sitting? I mean what's the involvement, because we've been sitting, obviously, in class--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: --and that seems to have been very much the crux of the matter in terms of some kind of development and journey in becoming somewhat saner. How do you work with somebody when sitting isn't involved?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the interesting point is that I don't think it would help particularly impose our trip on them, necessarily. And if that person is begin to respect you, begin to relate with you as a special friend, and that person begin to also want to find out what you do and how you are. And one can sort of transmit the meaning of the sitting practice to the person in the beginning, rather than like giving a pill, instead you sit. So, somehow that approach becomes a bit too drastic maybe at the beginning. And some people are in fact simply unable to sit at all. They are not even that level of just pure sitting is very hard job as we know. But some kind of radiating the by-product of sitting practice to them, which then they begin to wanted to be like you, and want to make friends with you, and want to follow your examples as you go on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=593.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can Western psychology be a path, in the way that Buddhism is a path in terms of how you deal with people, how you see people? [UNCLEAR: Hope and?] plus being a personal path the way Buddhism is a personal path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can you get to some of the same places?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same places?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, [laughter] can you reach some of the same understandings?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think depends on how you do it. It's not so much of that if you follow the manual and you get some situation, that's not possible, so particular psychological studies it's question of how you do it. And if you do it in the right way, could reach same level, but if you do it in wrong way, even if you're doing Buddhism, you might reach somewhere else. You might get somewhere else. So, it's a question of attitude, and intention, and some sense of honesty, and, you know, genuineness. It's a question of how we do it, rather than if you did it, you know, that's the point. We can't even pigeonhole that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=722.0,825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I have a question about meditation instruction. In this community specific people have been designated as meditation instructors, but in our practice as therapists or counselors the situation may come up just as you described, where if someone would become interested in meditation and want to know from myself for example, something about it, and I would feel hesitation about, \"Well, I'm not--\" I say to myself, \"Well I'm not a meditation instructor. Maybe I should tell this person to go down to Karma Dzong and get in touch with the real authority.\" And then I think, \"Well, that's ridiculous, you know, I can say a few words about it.\" So there's hesitation, and I just wonder how appropriate is it for those of us who have been practicing just to kind of step out and actually say something about the technique?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think as far as the technique is concerned, it is very simple, and there is no problem at all. The question is continuing, sustaining, and also it is a question of how much your own personal practice is-- has confident in it. And if you have confidence in it I think you can go ahead and do it. There's no problem, and sometimes a situation comes up quite spontaneously. Not making a big deal out of it, just, you know, go ahead and do it. I think that would be okay -- that would be good in fact. Whereas if a person had to be referred to various channels in bureaucracy, you might lose the momentum at the time, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=825.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: There have been various actual texts as far as teaching people to be meditation instructors. Is it possible to have actual instructions for those instructors? Is it possible to include something like that specific training in the program, rather than just having it be based on confidence in your own practice, is it possible to actually study how to be a meditation instructor and use that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that's what meditation instructors do themselves. They first develop confident in their own practice. And sometimes we have to actually fire some people, because they haven't been relating with their own practices so what they-- comes out of their mouth is quite irrelevant. [Laughter] So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --actually we might could develop some kind of, you know, special kind of get-together with the meditation instructors for some exchange of experiences. You could organize something like that maybe, some point, in near future. That would be okay, we could do that. There's not very much to it really, it's basically just... [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=945.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: In our studies, the sense I've had is that it's almost necessary to have a relation with a spiritual friend and have some relation outside of our own version of what compassion is it-- means or what it's about. And it’s come up a lot in our classes about whether it's possible in Western psychology to move beyond some-- you know just a personal reference about relating to people compassionately without a teacher. Now, I'm wondering if you think that it's necessary to have a relation outside of yourself before you can move out of your own personal version of working with people?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't quite understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The question in class has come up, is it necessary to be a Buddhist to develop true compassion? [Laughter] You could adapt to it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see I think we probably should not divide things into categories again, by saying that now I'm doing the Buddhist style, now I'm doing the Western style. And that's not much of it really. If you do it Buddhist style it's just common sense; if you're doing Western style, probably it's common sense too. So, it's question of what comes out of your genuine being and how you project that to others, you know. It doesn't have to have a title to it particularly. It's just sort of ultimate decency, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But it doesn't seem to have to have a title but it-- what makes sense to me is that it does have something to do with establishing a relationship with a person--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can go ahead and do that -- I don't see any problems with that. And then the sort of labeling, so to speak, comes later on, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Was that-- do you see that relationship happening in the lineages of Western psychology? Do you see people who are filling that role for students?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. As long as they have heard the dharma somewhat -- [laughs] at least the word \"dharma.\" [Laughter; laughs] What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1024.0,1217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I think one of the questions that has arisen about this problem, in regard to the classes in mahayana psychology, is whether it's actually possible to fully develop compassion without having taken the bodhisattva vow. And I think that's been something of a problem within the psychology program. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think there are different levels of-- taking example of Buddha himself -- he wasn't a Buddhist. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown gesture or incident;\r\n\r\n\r\nlaughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So if a person, through whatever means, by attitude becomes a genuine human being, in that case is he also a bodhisattva?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We could say that, I think so. We could say that. That's a big step. In other word if there is confidence in oneself and some sense of, if person has some-- developed some approach to overcome their ego, you know, then...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1217.0,1349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I'm interested in hearing more about how we take on another person's craziness in order to cure ourselves and first, before we can work with the person. I've read in Maitri transcripts of-- I've heard that said before, that you have to become somewhat crazy yourself before you can treat another person. Do you know what I mean, what I'm about talking about?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. [Laughter] Well, I think dealing with a crazy, so to speak, environment situation is-- depends on how much sense of fearlessness exist in you, if you have to deal with somebody, and how much sense of inhibition that you can develop. And how much you are embarrassed for somebody else, or how much you can actually extend yourself. In the case of a mother's relationship to infant is no problem, because the mother knows that child will be growing up one day and becomes a reasonable person. And so, mother doesn't mind changing diapers and doing all sorts of things for your child. Whereas everybody is a grown-up person, and there's some problems of some kind of basic embarrassment, which has to overcome -- embarrassment had to be transformed into kind of compassion. And particularly crazy people are very intuitive. They're somewhat brilliant. And they pick up messages very easily. And just flicker of your thoughts could be picked up, and that goes a long way in them -- they use it, they chew it, they swallow it, or they throw it up. And they will make lot of it-- lot of out of that. So it's a question of one's own basic being -- how you are free, yourself, from those situations. Or at least one could make attempt to be free at the time, if necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: As it comes up it has--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: -- [UNCLEAR: certain? sudden? such a?] [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1349.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. So, there's step of fearlessness taking place all the time, which is actually tremendous education and training for oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Do you mean if you're put on the spot by somebody, and to be aware of your embarrassment and your inability to look at the person and be completely free of his insanity. That itself is like a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's sort of sharing space, acknowledging and in other word what you're doing is the craziness is transmuting into sanity, on the spot. And of course that doesn't mean to say you had to become crazy, too, necessarily. Sometimes you had to be tough on a person, just simply say, \"No, don't do that.\" But even that should have some ring of confidence, otherwise they pick up right away -- bounces back on you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean that sounds like-- is there room for something like the methods of analysis at some point or for instance... in other words that sounds like a very-- that kind of confidence is very spontaneous.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Does--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --well it's the right time do it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --you had to be on the dot all the time. That's the only way. And practice meditation helps a lot on that. [Laughter] And sometimes it becomes-- it actually begin to become very appreciative -- you begin to enjoy, you know, it's a sort of natural dance between insanity and sanity, and there no problem. Could be quite delightful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: There's room for that to happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, patience. Lots of patience. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1506.0,1634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is there any-- is there any problem in terms of a person being in private practice and charging fees for helping people? Is there any problem in that becoming spiritual materialism?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think depends on if you are really interested in that person, rather than you're purely interested in their money. Obviously you know, that's a sort of outright, very crude materialism. Whereas if you have some interest in the person -- not *some* even, just full interest in the person -- and I think that kind of help needs to be paid as well at the same time. And it is very valuable help that nobody can-- no one can provide, and I think your earning is-- it's very noble at the same time. It's okay. We have to live our life, too, you know. Roof and sandwiches. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1634.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Is that some kind of-- that kind of interest you're talking about, is that some kind of... sort of normal kind of passion with people that you're just very interested in people, and that personally you're interested, or is it just some kind of openness in general, or both?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both, it could be both. That your day is not just one [UNCLEAR: sheet? shift?] of dealing with other people and just trying to be nice to everybody. But you respect your momentary communication -- each moment is a challenge as well as a test and achievement at the same time. So there is that kind of energy and aliveness takes place, you know. And as long as we don't try to just to make that into another religion, and try and say that we should be nice to everybody, you know -- that doesn't [laughing] really mean anything, very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1727.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: You can have a lot of negative feelings in fact. I mean on the spot there, and you're going about dealing with your world.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: If you take into account like your own irritations or your own--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Fearless and impatience?] I think whole thing is boils down to how much you trust yourself, and how much you're-- feel you are genuine. If you feel slightest fakeness, and then you begin to get hate you and you begin to feel being pinched, deprived, all the time. So working on oneself at the same time -- obviously the whole thing is a journey for you as well, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very simple. [Laughs] It's quite straightforward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1800.0,1861.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It might-- I don't know if it's true but my sense is that Buddhism doesn't deal with the people who we label as \"psychotics.\" That there's-- that there-- this group of people somehow passed over or something. Is that so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's not quite necessarily true. I think in Buddhism we try to deal with the people of all kinds: those who are in the hell realm, those who in hungry ghost realm, those who are in animal realm, as well as those in human realm. What manifestation they might take, that there is approach to everyone.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But is there an approach to people we would call \"psychotic\" that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, could be divided into hell realm or hungry ghost realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I know that's how you're, you know, we're seeing but--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: If-- they're seen that way or experienced that way, but it feels like they don't have access to meditation. And that we as a community or a practice haven't worked any like-- my understanding of the Maitri [therapy] setup was that it was intended to deal with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: --people that were just not able to sit and then that wasn't working.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's-- it only works if there would be more advanced staff members. It's a question of how much the staff members can evolve themselves, rather than that they-- we don't have anything you know for them, particularly. It's question that to how much the therapist -- or whatever you call it, the \"friends\" [laughter] -- how much they are evolved, then they can take much more, and we are not giving up on that at all. In fact we looking forward to that kind of facility we can actually accommodate. It's level of our own development, our own evolvement. So, you better work hard. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=1861.0,2021.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Speaking of -- will Maitri [therapy] ever work, you think? Speaking of, sort of environments, not just one-to-one situations, some sitting, or you and your psychotic patient, but in terms of environments, and I guess I want to know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean actual physical one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Yeah, like your idea of Maitri was somewhat based on that, and I don't even know what's happened to Maitri. [Laughs] Do you think it’ll ever work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much, this point. Well, I think Maitri concept, environment, could be reestablished. That seem to be the better way this point. The actual facility has become somewhat problematic this point. It's a physical location and also therefore the psychological location is problematic too. So, had to be reorganized.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: How about the idea of working with the rooms? For example, if a few practitioners, students of Naropa, decided to get together and in a city and work with patients.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the rooms are actually design for psychotics, as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Uh huh. So do you think the rooms should definitely be--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --given another chance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --that's always applicable, with anybody. You could scream in it and you know, you can bang your walls in it, you know, but still it works. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2021.0,2138.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: If we can, you know, as people working with people, appreciate that sanity and insanity both go on, what's healing, then-- I mean what's happening, or is anything happening?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Healing?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Healing, yeah. I mean because-- I mean on some relative level there is someone who's coming in to someone who's a therapist or a healer or something like that. Something goes on. I mean there's some-- somehow there's some communication of, you know, goodness or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, that's what we talking about all along, in the some sense that the patients should experience some sense of wholesomeness vibrating from you -- and therefore they're attracted to you. At the beginning that you have to develop that kind of thing. That usually insanity is based on-- or psychotic situations is based on some sense of aggression and disliking, rejecting oneself or one's world -- some kind of that they're been cut off from a level of communication they feel they could make, and world is beginning to reject them, which is they sort of isolated themselves. Or they feel that the other world is isolating them. So, if there is some sort of compassion radiation, and for very-- for the very presence of yourself. You know, you walk in the room and sit with people, and there's that kind of gentleness and willing to include that person, which is early stage of healing. I'm not talking terms of magic and changing water into fire or anything like that, just you know, some source-- some sense of reasonability, and gentleness, and full human being-ness carry a long way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Mhmm. It just sounds-- it sounds almost too simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is very simple therefore it's difficult as well. [Laughter] But it can be carried out -- it's been done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2138.0,2293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Do you have any remarks just on the style of therapy? For example there's-- there are styles of therapy that are more present-oriented and those-- and others that talk more about problems a person experienced early in life, and you know various forms of therapy.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah. Well according to the Buddhist tradition -- I'm afraid I have to come back to that all the time, make that reference point -- is that as we believe in impermanent, transitoriness of things, the past is gone, future is not occurred, so we work with what's there, which is present situation. Which actually helps us to not to categorize things, not theorize things, so that there is actual fresh living situation is taking place, all the time on the spot. That's what we are talking about noncategorical approach, which comes from being *there*, fully on the spot, rather than that you are following-- trying to follow up some past historical event, particularly. And otherwise we wouldn't be Buddhists here, sitting practicing. If you’re trying to dwell on the Buddha who died in the past, trying to think of him, it doesn't make sense to us -- we are not in India, we're in America. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2293.0,2399.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: An analogy that you've used is the manure of experience. Is it possible that in looking at personal histories with a person that they might be able to look at their experience so that it's based on some type of power [UNCLEAR: and? in?] helping them to see that and...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By looking at the past?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Yes. Trying to get to better manure? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, manure is manure -- it's always there. And once it's good manure, you don't have to look back to the past particular what they made out of -- they speak for themselves on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Seems some people are very attached to their manure and that might be a good way to work with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's dangerous in a way. If you begin do that then you have to stretch, so much -- time of your conception as baby, as fetus. You have to go back further and your grandfather, great great grandfathers, and creator of the world -- who did that? It goes a long way but [laughter; laughs] gets very complicated. Better to stick with the present. What would you say to that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2399.0,2511.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE] --psychology and the mind? On the other hand so much of the psychology program seems to be concerned with the nature of speech or communication, which we hear relatively little about in the Buddhist teachings. Somewhat-- there's so much more concentration on the nature of mind. But it seems to me that there's this obsession that we all have, and all of our clients or patients or people in need have, with how they became what they are. And in some ways that's necessary to hear that a little bit, to communicate with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's true, but that also has a present quality to it as well. It's not so much of purely retelling story, but the present situation is divided into several levels. The basic ground and actual manifestation, and where is about go. So the present situation could be divided three types of situations, and also it becomes very alive once you begin do that. But it's not so much of trying to come to conclusion -- the conclusion is in the present. There might be a case history, but that could be dying. But actual linguistic communication takes place on the spot. By the time you come and sit down, say, \"Hello\" to the person, that whole history is there, on the spot. [Laughs] Well, it's-- there's something else which is like the abhidharma approach of studying of workings of the mind, various categories and various levels of different kinds altogether. And I think it is good to know, but we had to be careful on that as well. We are not talking about somebody's mind in the past, but how your mind is functioning right this moment, and they are made out of hundreds of thousands of different fragments put together. So that we have some appreciation of the mechanics of the mind, how it's working, but that's not actually putting in the pigeonholes at all, just study of nowness. [Laughing] It becoming somewhat tantric here. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2511.0,2702.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Does it-- it seems like-- or my thinking is maybe it takes some people-- it takes things like talking out the past, and going in and getting into those past experiences that were so heavy, and taking a closer look at them before they can ever be in the present. In other words you have to start very slowly and work--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, it's question is, you see, we are not trying to figure out what person is about, because with their past, necessarily, but we trying to find out their case history because of who they are now, which is an interesting point. So, this person -- I always do that with interviews in my students, you know, always do that, you probably experience that too -- I ask them how they are, and have they been to outside of America, have they been to Europe and Asia, what they've done, and how their parents like, and all the rest of it, you know. But that's based on *this* person rather than *that* person. So, you have to hear what that person has gone through -- not so much in reference to what they made out of from the past, but what they are now *because* of the past. It's quite straightforward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So [UNCLEAR: you're like a representative?] of the situation now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where you are now, yes, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: But sometimes they can't see that either though. Maybe just takes a little bit longer to sort of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they don't have to see that necessarily, particularly. They might be dwelling in past, but as far as *you* are as helper to them, you have to know where they are now, what state they're in now.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very important. Otherwise you lose track of who they are now. Then you think of somebody else and as if is another personalities altogether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2702.0,2840.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: You are our teacher, and you have a lot of other of our teachers here. And in the course of our classes and meeting with these teachers they have questions and comments with regard to their path and path of Buddhism. And in situations like this, I never hear them. And I wonder if they care to say anything. [Laughter] I'd like to invite some of my other teachers to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That would be great. That would be wonderful. [Laughter] Please!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I accept the invitation. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Please.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I'm a member I suppose of Western psychology, and I have just been delighted to be a speaker because I feel very close to everything you say, and I know that there are psychologists and psychologists, just as there are Buddhists and Buddhists. And the psychology that *I* try to practice is definitely one that deals with the patient in the present, *that* moment, in my office. If he cannot be there for some reason or refuses to be there, then I may be interested, as you said, in trying to understand what keeps him from being there. And I may have to listen to him in order to get him to feel that I'm really interested in him, wherever he is, and use that as a way of inviting him into the present. And I find that the Buddhist philosophy of living right here without the garbage of the past and without the worry about the future is wonderful. [Laughter; applause] And I think compassionate, genuine people who are really interested in one another, that's the clue. So I'm delighted to be here to listen to your talk.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2840.0,2962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: I have a question about specialization in psychology, because it seems to me more and more that in our culture people specialize in being crazy, and people specialize in knowing about craziness. And based on my own experience of being at Maitri Center and working with crazy people, it seems like often the problem is that there's no esthetic sense in the person often, in the sense of how to handle things properly, at the moment. And for us as people working with those people it's often the same thing. And that's somewhat--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's pretty good point, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: --product of specializing too much it seems like, maybe even this program as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: --or whatever [UNCLEAR: you could say?] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What do you think of that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: No, I think that we are tending to specialize in severely disturbed people. That our interest is less in the human potential movement because we know something about that from another point of view, or something about working with neurotic people. But where our culture has totally failed is in working with severely disturbed people, psychosis, severe addictions, borderline personalities, delinquency, and so on. And I think that's an important aspect of this world that we should address and that we have something important to say about it, specifically the psychologists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=2962.0,3077.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Well, I think what we are involving here is -- apart from the what's known as the \"warriorship\" and \"genuine person\" -- there's something else involved is atmosphere that can be created around person, which seem to be very important. And that atmosphere could be also reflection of human dignity and some sense of... well, very simple case, physically or orderly, tidy, and there's some sense of cheering up process of person can relax within that facility. Your sheets been changed, nice meal is prepared, and possibly air-conditioned if it's the summer. [Laughter] Little things like that might be-- may be regarded as just purely middle-class trip by a lot of people, but somehow there's something more to than that is that the disturbances comes from atmosphere -- either their parents have created chaos, there is a pile of dish in the kitchen, or there is dirty laundry in the corner, and half-cooked food. And those little things may be regarded as somewhat incidental, but actually atmospheric situation like that do help a great deal.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that has been practiced actually in Tibet, and also in Zen tradition in Japan as well -- that atmosphere had to be immaculate reflection of one's individuality. So that there is some kind of beauty involved, rather than that the crazy person, highly disturbed person, is just pushed in the corner, and first we trying to straighten their mind and then we give them bath, shower, and then finally they get dressed. And so that's another way of approaching the whole thing, which actually doesn't work -- then they begin to feel they trips laid on them. So that is very important, very big step and somewhat, sort of, atmospheric situation could be very important. And I think that's overlooked a lot, and sometimes a free-style approach doesn't work, physically, domestically. If the patients were presented in a nice dish, nice meal, and somewhat the patient is be acknowledged and received as a special guest, which he or she deserves, and one can work from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3077.0,3300.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Rinpoche, one of the questions that's come up on all that in the psychology program is about body disciplines and working physically. You mentioned about disturbances coming from the esthetic and the physical environment, and some disciplines in modern psychology talk about disturbances arising from bodily disorders and attempting to work on them first, whether it's Rolfing or all sorts of kinds of physical work. And what place does that play? What role does that play?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean they should have Rolfed? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Well, whatever, there are various disciplines of talking about one's posture or whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the whole thing had to become-- had to become ritual appreciation rather than that you lay your trip on the person, basically. A person may not like it because of the environment, therefore they cease to take part in your world, and you might present a nice tray of meal they might just kick out because that's just only a spot they present to you, get so outraged by the whole thing. You know, the rest of things not that way, that's hypocrisy. So if the whole thing is unified completely -- that person is treat like a prince or princess in the fullest sense -- then they might would like to go out and actually cheer them up and exercise themselves. But I think the whole thing is not so much of that what kind of techniques we present to them which make them cure so we can rid of them. [Laughter] But simply how we can actually include them as part of a good human society. You know that's the point. Obviously this is very expensive project. [Laughs; laughter] But I think it's worth it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3300.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: A lot of us will be stepping into jobs where people are medicated as a way to sort of get rid of them. Do you have any sense of how we could deal with people who are on medication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, my general approach is if they could hold themselves together without least medication of any kind, if there could be some kind of at least half pill less, and they feel they have achieved a victory over that, in some sense of they are moving along and they don't need much of crutches. I think that is-- person had to be, you know, encouraged, congratulated, that they managed to be themselves rather than depends on some other stuff, you know. I think that's usually always applicable. But that takes a long time. And if you feel impatient obviously you just pop them in the mind-- in the mouth, you know, so that keep them calm for a while. And also some mothers do that for the babies too, you know. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: But it feels like a lot of these people will-- they might spend an hour with a therapist who could be welcoming, then-- and then spend the rest of their day in a society that would rather they were on medication, that they weren't creeping around--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think one has to push further. The society they have in contact with could be a better one. And that might mean to say that you talking to their parents, or their relatives who are hosting them, can be much more helpful -- rather than somebody is regarded as just purely junkie and pushed them in the corner, which makes things much worse, you know, doesn't work. And whole thing goes downhill, except when they come to perceive you. You-- they might have highlight of some kind but then rest of life is so dreary. And in some sense we are talking about almost ideal artificial life of some kind, at least at the beginning, until they could pull themselves together, and actually clean themselves, and clean their rooms, and make their beds, and cook nice meals for them. Just elegantizing their life, which is a basis of neurosis as that they have experienced of their life, their world, so ugly, so resentful, so dirty -- and more they behave that way they be pushed that way too. And so there's no actually atmospheric or compassionate hospitality like bodhisattva action has never been taken place, and they been regarded as nuisance. That doesn't help. They are not really particular nuisance at all -- they are just being themselves, because of the circumstances. Just purely that, you know. [Laughs] Somebody is falling asleep here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3421.0,3630.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: A comment on body therapies--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: On body therapies [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Actually the body can be seen as an environment in itself. And there are ways of working physically with the body that increase the sense of spaciousness and make it a more pleasant, friendly place.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true. But actually they have to appreciate their body -- some people don't, you know. Look at themselves in the mirror, and you look crazy and you-- that manifest the whole thing back altogether. So there had to be-- actually this is not even a therapy but just further endornment in their strength and their physique, their existence, you know -- rather than they are sick, therefore they should recover from it particularly. It's the attitude that you put out giving therapies, it's a question of how much welcoming situation is taking pace in the whole atmosphere.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Well do you see that a sane approach to body work as having a place in the program here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, definitely, but we should have good facilities if we could.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should get lots of grant, lots of money. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3630.0,3714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rinpoche, I'm taking a class called \"Exploring a Buddhist Approach to Teaching Children.\" And the question coming up seems to be, is it possible for children to grow up somewhat less neurotic? I mean obviously neurosis is unavoidable and seems somewhat necessary on the path, but is there a possibility of a less neurotic situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely. I think so. Definitely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: And we've been talking about the possibility of in some way using the atmosphere aspects of Maitri in doing this, the space awareness and aspects, the color aspects.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, children are more impressionable, and they have less resistance. Unless they been terribly treated, extremely badly treated, they have much more open-minded and can be worked very easily. There's no problem. There's no problem. That's good actually -- start from the beginning, you know. That they don't have to face-- that's-- that could be okay if the-- if they don't have to face the ugliness and the resentment world. Sooner or later they have discovered that aspect anyway, but nevertheless, if they could be brought themselves up so they could be themselves strong, so then they can understand other side just purely by experiencing other situations. Whole thing is very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3714.0,3828.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: Sometimes I feel like a problem with crazy people is in their loyalty to the past is if they feel that they've done something wrong -- which in a way is a kind of wisdom that they have or sensitivity -- then they feel that they don't want to get better or change because there's some kind of imbalance, like they've done something wrong and they don't want to go beyond that until if some balance has been reached. Do you think that concept of guilt or sin or something like that -- to me it seems like it's really central problem in craziness and not being able to change.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, I know it sounds like that [laughter] but does it make any sense to you? Some feeling about a regret and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in Victorian society it's trying to impose how bad they are, therefore they should be good. And that has been passed down in spite of the American Revolution -- [laughter] the neurosis of Victorianism still continued. They never been able to free from that, in spite of the bicentennial celebration. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3828.0,3921.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: So, you don't think it's sort of a wise thing to feel regret about bad things you've done?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wouldn't say that. It not so much regret, which is blaming in the past, which can't be washed, you cannot wipe your past. And things could be based on present consequences on the spot, you know: if you are unmindful, you spill your cup, so you spoiled your dress. That's immediate fact. The nowness of karma is happening rather than guilt conflict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3921.0,3972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER28: So you don't think an action that's bad enough could cause so much confusion in your life that in your lifetime you wouldn't be able to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, compensate, pay for, yeah, yeah. I don't think-- I think that's very criminal thing to do actually, make them feel they're stuck with their past, their bad deed.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: No. Not that I would make them feel that, but that I might, or a crazy person might spontaneously *themself* feel unworthy because of...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, unworthy on the spot. \"Look what you've done.\" You know, this is it. You don't even have to say very much. You just-- everything is manifested on the spot right here. And don't do it again. [Laughter] Understand? Makes things much simpler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=3972.0,4025.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Do you think that's part of the problem with the past is maybe the psychologist becomes a little too fascinated perhaps in some of the stories of the patients or there's too much-- if you're not concentrating all the time on what's actually happening at that moment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well also I think it's the scientific approach, that psychologist is very concerned to make the psychology concept is valid and scientific. In order to do that you have to have your case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: [INAUDIBLE] case, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Your case, yeah, your case. The case history in the case that reason why the psychological discipline is not just thought up on the spot, but we have a case.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Right.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And we say, \"Because of something something happened, therefore this person behaving that way.\" Which is somewhat apologetic kind of approach, on the basis of scientific pretense. But actually if you want to become more scientific you could actually present things on the spot, and things are very spontaneous on the spot. And we don't have to feel bad about or behind about psychology. It's a 2,500 years tradition in Buddhism. It's psychology, mind and speech. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4025.0,4126.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Rinpoche, I have a question about working with extremely crazy people. Very often I have very little sense or almost no sense of self and other.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: It would seem from the teachings and the notion of the path that we are also working with overcoming duality. So I often feel with these people that they've gotten ahead of me. [Laughter] So, but obvious-- I don't think that the nonduality that we experience is the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not quite the same. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Not clear what the difference is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You wondered what the difference is?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Yes, I'm unclear what the difference is between--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4126.0,4183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think there is differences in that nonduality because of the environment rejected you, therefore you don't have even *you* exist, which is a highly disturbed situation. Whereas the basic nonduality, according to the Buddhist path, is you don't have ego fixations to hold onto anything, that your ground is completely loose-- lucid, which is very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut actually very interestingly, you *can* actually make correlate between the two of those situations. Sometimes it works. Actually sometimes it works. If you're trying to impose the basic Buddhist enlightened approach of nonduality into their nonduality, it works -- sometimes it clicks. They-- you come out with some little smile from them, and it sometimes works. So, it's quite highly skilled job, [laughing] if you can do it. [Laughter; laughs] There might be some kind of hope, actually, you know. That's very interesting. That the patients might able to go through shortcut of some kind -- you know, suddenly they become \"there\", they are \"there.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4183.0,4270.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Some of the more recent, some of the newer methods in Western psychology actually use-- make use of the breath and training the breath as a way of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Use what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: --breath.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Breath. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Attention to breath as a way of building concentration and enhancing the sense of body awareness and presentness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Do you see any difficulty in using methods like that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No problem.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: --as far as interfering with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything that is actually there, which they could feel proper, you know, on the spot.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Got you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That would be fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything that can be on the spot. That would be great. That would be good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4270.0,4319.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: The-- that seems to be the sense of meditation, too, with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: --crazy people with something that if they can't sit through some sense of groundedness in what is happening with them, or what they're doing if they're even sitting on the ground, playing with blocks. There's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: --some sense of meditation there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, just general sense of shamatha, which is just paying attention--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --to the spot, which works with the other people too, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4319.0,4357.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: It's been very helpful to have a political perspective in working with oppressed people -- poor people, women, Black people, Mexican people, minorities. Do you think that a political perspective is necessary--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Political?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: A political--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why political?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: It has to do with power between groups, the use of power between groups. Do you think it might be necessary to introduce a political perspective in Buddhist psychotherapy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: I know what *he* says about [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: I suppose we all grow up in a power situation, and adults and children, and there's a polarization of power in any family situation that most Western people grow up in. And so we're conditioned to the sense of belonging to a certain-- mind is conditioned to belong to a certain class that has more or less power--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: --to a certain economic social group--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: --which we are more or less deeply identified with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: --and feel part of our ego identity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4357.0,4448.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't see particularly the need for labeling as \"political\" particularly. If you able to to do work everywhere, it becomes a natural force, natural strength, in any case, and politics comes much later. What we have achieved, which is a much better political force, not so much of \"we're going to do this big job,\" and therefore we are putting our cart before the horse. So we should have horse before the cart. Just, you know, do bodhisattva work and politics follow you in any case. Once there is enough strength, and enough dignity, and enough vividness and visibility in social setup, you become political force. So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: When the patient is-- can't pay the rent and is hungry and etcetera, and is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [UNCLEAR: Could we give it a break?]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: --comes to someone for help because they have bad headaches, I found it might be helpful to have a perspective about the evils of American capitalism--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: --in working with such a person.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm all for it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: It helps me expand my own compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: That's why I asked the question. Because I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very simple, very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: --don't think it's the cart before the horse, I think they go together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4448.0,4549.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hopefully. Hopefully. Try to find out -- experiment. We can't actually sanction this point, but we could find out what goes on. Experiment with it, see what happens. But don't tripped out.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don't get tripped out.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Tripped out. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4549.0,4580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, one thing that you have to remember there's-- is we are trying to be genuine people. Whatever we do, we have to be genuine. We should do it properly, always. That comes first. That is actually best political strength, if you like talk about political strength. When you are decent and good, nobody can actually accuse you anything at all. And you are there, you are doing what you doing -- that's it. So we don't-- we are not trying to avoid anything. We don't try to cultivate anything unnecessary for personal gain. We are just *there.*","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4580.0,4632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: This a Buddhist-pointed question about karma and psychosis, which is that when a person presents you with a bad job of handling their mind, their environment, it's also somebody else's bad job of handling *them* in the past, just a karmic situation. And if a-- I've heard, you know, if the person has an ugly nose, well you can't just give it a good nose job and [snaps fingers] the karma is gone, but actually there's a-- still a karmic situation happening. So as people who are working with psychosis, is there some sense that we could actually-- that we're doing something with the other person's karma, ripening it or bouncing it back, or are we just sharing it with them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, somewhat we are sharing with them, but at the same time if we have a chance to change their mind, change of their state of being, therefore they are not reproducing further bad karma anymore. So we are actually minimizing karma-- bad karma situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: What about the-- just the power of the volition of what we might minimize, the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we have to work on that. First minimize, then stop the power of the volition--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Uh huh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --after ten years or so working with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Maybe ten years as development as students as well as somebody just working with the other person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4632.0,4714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40627/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well, idea is the patience and the fearless that we talk about already. That we should commit ourselves to our patients fully. I think that's very important -- not just trying to get rid of them after they've been cured. So some sort of follow-up job is very much necessary. And that actually makes whole thing very decent. And we shouldn't regard as like purely ordinary M.D. works, with the patients when they are cured, you know, you never see them again. But as psychologist, we should pay more attention and we should actually have sharing of their life, and they might come to you and share their life too. So, that kind of friendship is a long-term commitment -- it is almost like teacher-student relationship in the Buddhist path, in some sense. And we should be proud of that and that's very good.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424#t=4714.0,4844.72163"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40628","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19780809VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76176/file/168424/transcript/40628/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa 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