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How important it is to us, from the personal to political to artistic. HIghlights two ideas of freedom: freedom from pain, and freedom from outside interference. Questions concept of freedom, if based on feeling imprisoned. Reverses logic: surrendering to imprisonment might be key to freedom. Introduces subject of whether we are already free, unconditionally. Freedom as not something to grasp, attain. Situates freedom in realm of art rather than politics. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] about how to surrender to imprisonment; [Q8] what does he mean by \"artistic\"?; [Q15] whether political action with goal of freedom is valid.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 04 2019 to Mar 06 2026 Transcribing: Al SanValentin Checking: Leandra Ziegler Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eExplores what freedom really means, and if it even exists. How important it is to us, from the personal to political to artistic. HIghlights two ideas of freedom: freedom from pain, and freedom from outside interference. Questions concept of freedom, if based on feeling imprisoned. Reverses logic: surrendering to imprisonment might be key to freedom. Introduces subject of whether we are already free, unconditionally. Freedom as not something to grasp, attain. Situates freedom in realm of art rather than politics. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q3] about how to surrender to imprisonment; [Q8] what does he mean by \"artistic\"?; [Q15] whether political action with goal of freedom is valid.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260331-1167548-gb8c2v.mpga"]},"duration":2990.5502,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/288/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1769639155","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/306/996/original/open-uri20260331-1167548-gb8c2v.mpga?1774976205","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2990.5502,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740427VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740427VCTR1 - Public Talk - New York City - The Myth of Freedom]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, a Public Talk entitled The Myth of Freedom, given at Synod Hall in New York City, April 27th, 1974. This is a CTI remaster made March 2026.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=0.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This evening we're going to discuss myth of freedom. The question is, does freedom exist, actually? And search for freedom-- should the search of freedom be a real thing that we can do, something that is actually does exist? Or search of freedom is just purely myth? The question of freedom has become very important topic, very powerful one, that we begin to think that unless I could attain some sense of freedom -- independent, economically, socially, personally, artistically, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=17.0,111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That sense of freedom means that nobody should mind, or should influence, or interfere more likely, that your integrities that you have already developed, that faith that you have developed already should not be disturbed by other factors. That faith that you've developed should not be interfered, and for that matter that faith that you have developed should not be sponsored by anybody but you. But the faith that developed within oneself is *my* faith, our own thing, that it should be a pure \"me\" thing, *my* thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=111.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That ideas or talent, a work of poetry, work of art, philosophical discovery, spiritual discovery, whatever, that they should show us some hope, final hope that, \"I would not end up with this crazy world of confusion and chaos and pain.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=186.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That freedom has seem to be two types of levels. That one level is being that sense of being in pain, that you want free from this immediate pain, that you want to feel free, relieved, cured from the sickness. And another thing is that freedom is that what you believe should be respected, that you are not interfered with. Which is a more, slightly different level of sense of freedom, in the sense that last one is being more of arrogant type of attitude towards freedom: \"I have made historical landmarks, as far as I'm concerned, and therefore I should be kept-- left alone, without interference, and I don't want anybody to sponsor my work of art. I can do it myself.\" The other one is a pathetic one in some sense that, you feel wretched, feel so bad, not so good, and it feels trapped in and freaked out, or sick. Feels very bad, and we want free from that-- those problems. Economic or physical, psychological, whatever, \"I want free from those. At least I want to feel comfortable and happy.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=215.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Freedom cannot be-- the notion of freedom cannot be developed, cannot develop, unless there is some sense of imprisonment, some sense of pain, as have discussed already. You feel constantly sick, confused, you want free from that. So therefore the inspiration of freedom comes from sickness. That having experienced a true sickness, proper sickness, that you are-- you feel you are trapped in this particular sickness. So you feel that you want to be saved, from this entrapment, imprisonment. You want to be saved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=335.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As well as that when you feel that you have enough resources already that you don't want yield to anybody at all, but you can do it yourself, you can exercise your own freedom. Which is also sense of that pride, which it brings, the notion of that somebody else minding your business is not necessary, is another kind of sense of entrapment, and sense of imprisonment. So from that question, we could might ask question twice, thrice: is there such thing as real freedom, without any reference point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=397.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems generally our mind works in such a way that when we talk about freedom, freedom is inspired by the imprisonment. Therefore, in fact, the truth in imprisonment rather than freedom. So, as logic works, that freedom might be just purely myth. It's possibility... but nobody dare to say that freedom doesn't exist. [Laughs] That's-- we feel that we are going against it, ego integrity, that one day there's greatness and freedom and romantic egohood. \"One day, I'm going to make it. I'm going to do it. People in the past did it, why can't we do it? They developed their freedom by expressing their beauty, or wisdom, whatever.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=444.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So question here is that we have to discuss, very clearly, think very clearly, whether freedom does exist or not, independent of freedom *itself* from that point of view. If freedom could exist independent of the notion of freedom *itself*, then maybe freedom can exist. But then, that doesn't seem to help us any way. We don't get anywhere particularly, we don't get feedbacks. We can't tame our egohood, we can't develop expected pleasure, or joy, comfort and happiness is impossible, if freedom is a self-spoken, self-evolved situation without depending on the imprisonment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=526.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe that's worth thinking actually. It is possible, that maybe we had freedom already. How about that? Maybe we had freedom already, unconditional freedom already, that freedom that we generally talk about is maybe just a... concept, maybe just purely idea, that's possible. How about thinking-- looking that way? That, freedom does not need to be sought. When the notion of freedom becomes a myth, that it's not freedom but it's a falsity. It is another form of imprisonment. It is possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=589.0,649.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we could quite safely say, the notion of nonexistent freedom brings totalities of freedom which is being exist-- which is existing within our state of being constantly, all the time, within our state of being. Even freedom is present while we are in the jail, imprisoned by one's own problems, or that trips been laid by somebody else that you are in jail, psychologically, physically, whatever, economically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=649.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you might find there is some kind of contradiction, there's something not quite right about the whole thing, because for the very reason we want to be clear and clean. We want to get our money's worth, so to speak. That either we have freedom or we don't have freedom; we don't through the little details, and we want to *have* it. It seems that is impossible. Once we want to *have* freedom, that is the voice of the imprisonment. We want to be free. Who will say such thing, except that somebody who is imprisoned? That's not the cry of freedom but a cry of imprisonment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=692.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, we can’t have a black and white from that point of view. No simple answer I'm afraid, seen in this way. That more simple answer that \"I want to be happy,\" that is also expression of misery, by contrast. Like saying that \"I want go to the other shore,\" which means you are still at this shore. You haven't been there yet. The other shore is just ideal goal that you want to change the scenery, or whatever. You want to have something changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=746.0,795.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The notion of freedom is very complex subject. If you begin accept that this notion of freedom is very complicated to try to sort out by intellectually or intuition, but just the notion of freedom that you wanting to be free is in itself a further complication. And in fact, if you begin to give up on gaining freedom, *at all* -- if you begin to surrender to the imprisonment, then we might begin to realize that we have some choice. Before there was no choice, you are imprisoned constantly. But now when you begin to give into the imprisonment we have a choice. That is expression of freedom. And furthermore, that you begin to realize the freedom does exist within when you are in a state of imprisonment, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=795.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is not quite suicidal from that point of view, but it's celebration that realizing you still have power over other-- over the other. You still have power. That power to surrender, power to generate freedom within, so to speak. That's been used a lot. But nevertheless, if you could look at it from its true sense, freedom within, which means you don't have to be freed but freedom *is* there. And even we can't call it even freedom. Let's call it \"that.\" \"That\" exist, because word \"free\" in itself is a relative reference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=879.0,944.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An artist would find very difficult compose new design, new painting. Poet might find that their talent of poetry is nonexistence. And all the genius people might find, some point, that things that are famous, fameful, doesn't operate anymore. There's moments of doubt, all the time happening. That they have lost their creativity. And sometimes people panic. Because they panic so much, the musicians become deaf, preacher becomes mute, philosopher becomes stupid, and artist becomes unartistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=944.0,1051.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not trying to paint black picture, exactly, but I'm trying to show you how things work. And maybe in those periods when you feel panicked, you begin to paralyzed for a few seconds or a few days, or few years, few months, and maybe those periods you might attain some sense of freedom at that point, within said imprisonment. Why? It seems that things are going backward rather than forward, and after all freedom is supposed to be a forward situation. Not necessarily so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1051.0,1119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That deaf musician had developed sense of music, already, and because he struggled too much to the music therefore he become deaf. Otherwise that he could develop transcendental hearing. That at the level when he just started to develop transcendental hearing, as a musician, he turned into deaf or he turned into transcendent person. That's the level where that there's something existing within the whole cosmos, that there is self-correcting situation taking place all the time. That we don't have to make the choices constantly all the time. Like if you are speeding too much, the policeman comes to catch you, or if you lost our awareness that we crash into somebody else's tail. If you’re eating so unmindfully, either we get diarrhea or constipation. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1119.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those simple facts does exist, and so is freedom. Freedom is not so much whether something should be *gained* as such, but freedom is something that there *is* as speedometer, to gauge your speed, level of speed your intelligence, your pride, your activities. So from that point of view, we could say quite safely that one doesn't *attain* freedom as such but freedom comes to *us* as speedometer. That each time the ego-oriented musician becomes deaf, that freedom speaking to him, from that point of view. That is the expression of his freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1204.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the notion of freedom is very wide subject, that we can't just say, \"I want to be freed.\" And there's a lot of myth about freedom, which is become problematic. And we wanted to have a certificate that you are finally free, released from this jail. You may not have a clean record, but at the same time you want to be released from the jail at *least*, or else try to employ all kinds of attorneys and lawyers to prove that you have a clean record. And the blames be made on to you is purely untrue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1264.0,1341.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The term \"freedom fighter\" is contradictory from that point of view. If you're fighting for freedom, you are fighting for the opposite. That freedom is always there automatically. And freedom is nothing to do with the politics from that point of view. In fact, we could say quite clearly that freedom is expression of art, work of art, rather than politics. [Sirens; laughter] That's why a notion of freedom is referred as a mystical experience. It is mystical experience because it is relating with the audiovisual intelligent perceptions, rather than manipulating the world, as politicians might have do so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1341.0,1421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we could quite safely say that notion of freedom is by no means related with seeking freedom, searching freedom, grasping freedom. And the myth of freedom is-- becomes a problem, because that is concept. So freedom had to become smo-- spontaneous existence. Everybody here, the audience at this point, experiencing the notion of freedom, because that what you chose. Decide to sit here, decide to be here. There's no myth about that whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1421.0,1503.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, maybe we could have some discussion period. If you'd like to ask any questions, probably that's much simpler rather than me trying to clarify myself. And feel that it necessary to-- the question should be repeated, so that you could hear what's been asked.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf anyone would like to ask a question or make any comments to this you are welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1503.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Here's a very simple question. You said before, freedom is spontaneous, and then there was some [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: You said freedom is a spontaneous--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I didn't hear what...\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: --something, but it-- I didn't catch the last word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Last time I was asking you [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Actually I don't remember, so... [Laughter] Well, freedom is spontaneous thing. [Laughter] That should be enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1572.0,1616.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you talk a little bit more about surrender to imprisonment?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Could you talk a little more about surrender to imprisonment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well imprisonment is a psychological state basically, in that you are trapped in a situation in which that you cannot manipulate the walls around you. And there are concrete walls or iron bars around you that you can't manipulate with anymore. And surrendering, or sense of freedom, is that trying to-- instead of trying to acknowledge or confirm those bars, those thick heavy walls around you, instead of doing that, you sort of work with it, that you surrender to the walls, and iron bars around you. And something happens to that point, that psychological attitude begin to different, that instead of you being imprisoned, you begin to find that you can manipulate the walls.\r\n\r\n\r\nThat claustrophobia can be worked with, it is workable. And in turn, that you begin to find you have enormous power over them in fact. Not only you can work with them, you can destroy them particularly but you can dictate to them, to the claustrophobia of the imprisonment. You can do it yourself. And that's the basic notion of surrendering that, in fact whole thing becomes entirely different prospect. Before you thought you in prison. Now you begin to-- you are the dictator of your walls. You begin to work with it, you begin to shape the walls around you. You can bend the iron bars around you. You can do so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1616.0,1773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is anybody free?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Is anybody free?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: \"Anybody\" is problem. It is free, but when you begin to talk about \"anybody\"--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: I mean, or should I say, that is, is it true that *nobody* is free?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Should I say that is it true that nobody is free?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't have to talk about bodies. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No, individuals.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Huh?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No individual *person*.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: No individual person.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We don't have to talk about *individual*. And then, when we say that \"he is free because so on, so on,\" then we have a problem there. The freedom does not have to belong to anybody. It is-- it is *so*. So you are not particularly free, I'm not particularly free, but freedom *is*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So the fact that we consider ourselves an ego is a form of imprisonment, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah? [Laughter] So, because of that, that you are confirming ego by saying, \"I am free.\" And which is a further statement of imprisonment. That's why we can't say any*body* is free. If there's any substance, nobody can be free at all. So because there's no substance there is *this* and a body, anybody or somebody or *this* body *myself*, or you or I or she or he. Then, problem is because the ground exist therefore there is-- imprisonment exist. So we can't say anybody free. Only thing we can say is that there could be freedom if there is anybody, if there’s *no* anybody. It's not freedom from outside, but freedom from within. [Laughs] Good luck, sir. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1773.0,1926.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I'd like to know whether freedom is an ungovernable urge. Because if that's so, I had a precognition of this meeting around seven o'clock.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: I'd like to know if freedom is an ungovernable urge, because if that's so, I had a precognition of this meeting earlier. [Laughter] Could you restate that? Could you restate that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precognition at seven o'clock? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: He had a precognition of this meeting at seven o'clock, so how does that relate to freedom? Already had or saw it before it happened.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think that's a misunderstanding, quite simply. That you thought your life could be smooth by coming here at seven o'clock.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I had come [INAUDIBLE] this meeting.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and you misunderstood.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: [INAUDIBLE] without knowing the topic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I didn't say it, but I guess then I was *lucky* that freedom is an ungovernable urge.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, certainly, but freedom is also sometimes deceptive.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: So I think that was a lucky precognitive hit about seven o'clock\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Whatever you say. [Laughter] Yeah, [laughs] this case-- well at this point nothing can go wrong. Whatever you say. [Laughter; laughs] Good luck, sir. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=1926.0,2029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I was very interested in what you were saying about artists feeling they have lost their creative impulse. And it seemed to me in my life that the moment I decided that I was unoriginal and that everything was unoriginal, and I wasn't worried about being \"original,\" a great load was taken off my shoulders.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: I was very interested in what you said about artists losing their creative impulse and it seemed to me in my life that as soon as I stopped worrying about being unoriginal and decide that everything was unoriginal and stopped worrying about being original, a great load was taken off my shoulders.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that could be another source of security at the same time. There is endless things happens, you know, when that happens you have a relief, sense of relief, that everything is okay. But then even that is as questionable. As you grow up, eventually later on, that you rediscovered what you have discovered, and rediscover that, and rediscover that. And it's an onion skin, unfolding itself, constantly. So, the only question is that we can't work from out inward, but we have to work from inward out. Do you see what I mean? That there is no beginning, in fact, there’s no source to start the whole thing. If there is nothing to start the whole thing, at the beginning of the beginning, then [sneeze in the audience] there will be no outside-- gesundheit. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: So the question of originality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, where it come from, it come from nowhere. They don't exist. And then we're getting some headway, so to speak, making headway. We're getting somewhere. The question of freedom or imprisonment does not begin from how many barbed wires around you, but it is *you*, that *you* exist, therefore barbed wires surround you. So it's not so much that the guards are the problem, that prison guards are the problem, but *you* are the problem. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2029.0,2182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In terms of the fact that there are 200,000 prisoners in Vietnam, do you think there's any freedom in torture?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: In terms of the fact that there are 200,000 prisoners in Vietnam, do you think there is any freedom in torture?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Freedom of torture?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: That they're being tortured in their prisons, so are they free?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They’re what?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: They're being tortured. The prisoners are [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs; laughter] Well, the very political idea of Vietnam affair, in itself is imprisonment. It doesn't really matter what happens in detail. That the question of that somebody is fighting for somebody. You want to gain independence, you want to become freer nation of freer whatever may be. and that in itself is a problem. It's not so much what happens in great detail. And obviously a lot of people are victim of that problem already. And I'm sure that millions people died in the past in the name of freedom, imprisoned in the name of freedom, and quite possibly in the future millions of people will be so.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut that is not particularly the point. The point here what we are discussing, is the very cause of the whole thing. That nationalism and politics are unartistic, therefore you can't get freedom. True freedom is artistic talent. So as soon as you get into politics, that you are unartistic therefore you can't have freedom. Unless that politicians become artistic which is, I suppose, possible. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2182.0,2311.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: When you said that freedom was a speedometer, do you mean that it gauges the rate of acknowledgment of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: When you say freedom is a speedometer, do you mean that it gauges the rate of acknowledgment of pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You got it. [Laughter] When you feel the actually suffering and pain, it is hollow. It is hollow and it is spacious. It's like you begin to feel yourself like a huge pipe, who is suffering these sicknesses. Even physically you feel that there's no heart, but there is a shell of a body who is suffering. Good luck, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2311.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: What do you mean by \"artistic\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: What do you mean by \"artistic\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the real understanding of things as they are in terms of intuitive level, rather than purely mathematical political level. And \"artistic\" here is that sense of appreciation of arrangements and things as they are. And also, at the same time that you have a chance to improvise all kinds of situations around you. That it is like you got palette with a paint, and brush, and a canvas. It is expression of enormous freedom there. That the paint is waiting for you, the brush is in your hand, and canvas is in front of you. That kind of sense of generosity, a sense of something special in us that takes place all the time. Maybe you might paint the same picture every day but it's still, there's a sense of very powerful composition is taking place, which is expression of freedom. That every day is entirely different; although you might have nine-to-five jobs, well still it's a different day, nevertheless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2366.0,2451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Why do human beings lose the consciousness of [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Why do human beings lose the consciousness of freedom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because they've been told there's such a thing as freedom. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2451.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Is curiosity freedom?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Is curiosity freedom?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is a teaser to freedom. Teaser.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well [INAUDIBLE] teaser, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you get wind of it, so to speak. And then, you begin to pursue it as you go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2467.0,2494.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Aren't all thoughts imprisoning? If so, what's the role of thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Aren't all thoughts imprisoning and if so what's the role of... pain?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Thinking. What's the role of thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn't catch that.\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Aren't all thoughts imprisonment? And if they are, then what's the role of thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All thoughts?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: All thoughts are imprisonment. What's the role of thinking?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Who said all thoughts are imprisonment? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: He asked, *are* all thoughts...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question is not so much of-- we have to try to detect what is imprisonment or what is not. Or what is freedom, for that matter. It's a question of, things do exist, things do function in their own way. And let’s be intelligent about them, rather than gullible love and lighty. But let's make-- let's look at this as yellow, red, pink, green. Who put them together? Was there a purpose at the beginning of those people who grew this flower? They knew this going to end up here. It's impossible to say. Maybe so, but maybe not. But somehow rather happens to be here. It's a fact, it's not product of emotion that these flowers end up here, but a product of fact. And the products were artisticness, that somebody bought-- somebody appreciate the colors and, \"Ahh, flower! Can we get flower on the stage here tonight?\" And somebody decide to go and buy it. And it's awakening of insight that took place, and somebody decide to do this, put the flowers. Maybe as far as arrangement is concerned may not be particularly artistic arrangement, as such, but the very idea, very attempt is good artistic attempt. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2494.0,2669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is what you're trying to express a simple viewpoint or a sophisticated one?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Is what you're trying to express a simple viewpoint or a sophisticated one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both at the same time. Simple to experience, very complex to understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2669.0,2693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Can a simple-- could a very simple person understand it without entering into the complexities?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Can a very simple person understand it without entering into the complexities?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you could keep still is simplicity. If you trying to become complicated, then it's-- is lost. If he is consistent, in other word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Are human beings basically simple or basically complex?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both! [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: Are human beings basically simple or basically complex?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2693.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, I don't understand quite what you're saying about politics. Are you saying there's no validity in political action? I mean are the Chinese that-- not a problem to the Tibetans?\r\n\r\n\r\nMICHAEL CHENDER: I don't quite understand what you're saying about politics. Are you saying that there's no validity to political action, and are the Chinese in Tibet not a problem to the Tibetans?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, political action is unartistic, and are void from freedom. You see the question is that it is very strange that political measure supposed to bring freedom, but actually it turn out to be something else. That only artistic measure brings freedom. That's the basic twist that exist there, that no politicians can bring freedom, total freedom, because it's not artistic enough. [Laughs] That question of Tibet is again it's same thing. That Tibetans lost sense of art, and the Chinese have become more political. So it was ideal meeting ground in which that the Tibetans the Chinese could fucked up the whole thing together. And that what happened! [Laughter] It was ideal situation. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2742.0,2857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92466/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, ladies and gentlemen, probably we should stop at this point of our gathering here. Any announcement we have? Anything's there?\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, well, thank you very much. I'm sorry you were late. [Laughter] But still, I would like to thank everybody being patient and waiting, and able to relate with each other. Is a very powerful experience for me each time. Each time I come back to New York City, I discovered new facets of energies of people. And maybe twenty-five percent of people here are \"old-comers,\" but still they bring all kinds of new energies, as well as newcomers, so I'm completely intrigued that what you do with your life, [laughter] and what you experience with your life. And I feel that you are doing something meaningful. I wouldn't say particularly positive, [laughter] but you are learning something out of your life, which is I feel very encouraged. And there's overall a sense of sanity that's taking place, at least in tonight's gathering here. So I would like to congratulate you of developing some sense of basic sanity, and that the feeling that you have created overall is great, and I feel very loving to New York and people of New York City. Please keep going. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2857.0,2990.5502"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740427VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the Venerable\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=0.58,2.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a Public Talk entitled\nThe Myth of Freedom,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2.76,5.43"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"given at Synod Hall\nin New York City,\nApril 27th, 1974.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=5.43,11.26"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI remaster\nmade March 2026.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=11.26,17.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: This evening\nwe're going to\ndiscuss myth of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=17.44,24.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=27.5,30.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"does freedom exist, actually?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=38.36,44.88"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And search for freedom--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=48.3,52.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should the search of freedom\nbe a real thing that we can 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thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2819.78,2824.47"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That Tibetans lost sense of art,\nand the Chinese have become\nmore political.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996#t=2824.47,2831.86"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2288/collection_resources/168775/file/306996/transcript/92467/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it was ideal meeting ground\nin which that the Tibetans\nthe 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