{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/hh6c24rr63/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1974-08-07: Tantra: Journey Without Goal: Talk 11: Being and Manifesting"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1974-08-07"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Course"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/215/show\"\u003e1974 Naropa Institute: Tantra: Journey Without Goal\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 11: Being and Manifesting"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Vajrayana and Tantra"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["Being and manifesting in tantric tradition in context of body, emotions, and mind; \"the three kayas.\" Tantra not about mysticism, but perceiving the world simply through these three levels. In confused aspect of body, we have no real idea of what we are doing in the world, and constantly want to change it.  Emotions are so consuming that they color the world, which becomes completely filled with aggression, passion,  ignorance. In tantric experience, enlightened body is direct experience of things as they are. Emotions are \"complete joy\", and mind is \"total space.\"  Known as the three kayas. \"Nirmanakaya\" takes form of realized teacher who communicates teaching. \"Sambhogakaya\" is transformed emotions, experienced as celebration.  \"Dharmakaya\" is all-pervading space, transformation of ignorance into open space and accommodation.  Importance of beginning with body principle, and relating with vajra master, who also exists in earthly body but has conquered the emotions,  which manifests as magic."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Journey without Goal","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04","VIDEODVD: Journey Without Goal"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL: Chapter 11: Being and Manifesting\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK345\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 04 (in contained book JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\nVIDEODVD: JOURNEY WITHOUT GOAL\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.kalapamedia.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DVK345\"\u003eKalapa Media\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 26 2018 to Feb 28 2021 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May, Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Nancy Roberts, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1974"]}}],"summary":{"en":["Being and manifesting in tantric tradition in context of body, emotions, and mind; \"the three kayas.\" Tantra not about mysticism, but perceiving the world simply through these three levels. In confused aspect of body, we have no real idea of what we are doing in the world, and constantly want to change it.  Emotions are so consuming that they color the world, which becomes completely filled with aggression, passion,  ignorance. In tantric experience, enlightened body is direct experience of things as they are. Emotions are \"complete joy\", and mind is \"total space.\"  Known as the three kayas. \"Nirmanakaya\" takes form of realized teacher who communicates teaching. \"Sambhogakaya\" is transformed emotions, experienced as celebration.  \"Dharmakaya\" is all-pervading space, transformation of ignorance into open space and accommodation.  Importance of beginning with body principle, and relating with vajra master, who also exists in earthly body but has conquered the emotions,  which manifests as magic."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved. Not to be Distributed or Reproduced."]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/152/small/19740807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4_1659412201.jpg?1659412202","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 19740807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4"]},"duration":3676.33067,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/164/152/small/19740807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4_1659412201.jpg?1659412202","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/164/152/original/19740807VCTR1-Video-Prod-CTIRmstrSD-Access.mp4?1659412190","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3676.33067,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19740807VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19740807VCTR1 - Naropa Course - 1974 - Boulder - Tantra - Talk 11]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=0.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to discuss tonight in the level of being, and the level of manifesting, in the tantric consciousness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=22.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That when we talk about a basically a tantric approach to life, we are not purely talking in terms of mystical experience alone, but we are talking in terms of how we perceive reality in the simplest way. That in the simple way we perceive the reality, in the form of body, in the form of emotions, in the form of mindlessness. Which is traditionally known as ignorant, bewilderment. That’s the samsaric way of handling our world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=144.0,209.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Body represents all kinds of self-consciousness, including sense concepts, sense consciousness of all kinds. Vision, sound, taste, feelings, and all the other things. Emotion includes aggression, passion, jealousness, pride, all kinds of other things. And mindlessness or ignorant includes a state of total bewilderment. That we have no idea what we are doing, what we are experiencing. That we are completely missing the point, all the time. Those are the three major principles that we constitute, we constitute our life situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=209.0,273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we discussed about the five buddha principles the other day, we are talking in terms of the emotional level, or the secondary level, emotional level. But we haven’t covered that of the body level. And we haven’t covered that of the ignorant level -- yet. So I would like to discuss this particular perspect [sic] more, clearly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=273.0,306.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such as like same way that we discussed about the three types of-- five types of buddha principles, there is the same correspondence of three types of buddha principles, which are corresponding at the same time transcending, the level of ignorance and bewilderment, and the level of emotional, and the level of body. They are corresponding principles at the same time. But, we are not talking purely in terms of principles as a extraordinary thing that might help us, might work with us, so that we could free ourselves from those hang ups, so-called. But we are purely talking in terms of how we could *relate* with those three types of principles exist within our state of being -- psychologically, experientially, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=306.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As tantra speaks, the level of body is world of manifestation; and level of emotions are world of complete joy; and level of bewilderment or ignorance is total space. Those are the three principles that exist. But there’s no tension, or there’s no contradiction between the two types of three approaches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=393.0,466.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we talk about a body to begin with, we are talking in terms of actual body, physical body. Some bodies are well-shaped, fat or thin, functional or infunctional [sic]. Some bodies would see sight, but couldn’t hear sound. Some bodies could hear sound but couldn’t see sight. Some bodies could feel, but at the same time couldn’t see or hear. Some bodies could hear and see but couldn’t feel. But some bodies could do the whole thing. There are all kinds of bodies involved, physical experience involved. Whether you’re lame or whether you’re deaf or whether you’re dumb. But there’s still same kind of experience happening constantly all the time. That it is experience of the body, experience of reality in a very simple level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=466.0,556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the sutras, the Buddha once said to Ananda, “Ananda, if there is no body, there's no dharma. If there’s no dharma, there’s no food. If there’s no dharma, there’s no clothes. Take care of your body, for sake of the dharma.” That seem to be the one of the basic points, of relating with the body, is extremely important in tantric tradition. But without any particular personal trips, that you have taken, one particular responsibility, such as like becoming vegetarianism, vegetarian-ist. And you sneer down towards meat eaters. You have become those people who wear purely cotton, natural products, as clothing, and you stop wearing animal products. And you decide to live on certain particular air, which is free from, that country’s free from dictators. We could go too far in that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=556.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Once you become vegetarian, you maybe stop eating meat, but you still enjoy peeling bananas. [Laughter] And crunching your teeths into biting peaches. And cooking eggplants as substitute meat. There are all kinds of human instinct comes up, and becomes *very* complicated. Not that I’m trying to advocate eating meat as such at this point, *or* the otherwise. But I am just pointing out that, how we don’t accept our body, as it is. That we tend to look into certain different areas so that body could be handled, so we could have easy ride to whatever, up or down, direct somewhere. That we don’t like this place so we want to go somewhere. Some people call it hell, some people call it heaven, whatever. Like to have easy trip, somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=676.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a particularly serious matter. [Laughs] It’s humorous, in fact. It’s not particularly mocking. But at the same time it is very hilarious. That how we view the cosmos, our world *as if* not *really* real world at all. That we could *do* something about it. We treat sometimes the world as a problem child, we trying to feed you, trying to relate with you, suggest all kinds of evil things. And sometimes we treat our world as the priest, or the master who is telling, \"everything is good, whatever you do is fantastic. There’s the flowers, there’s the meadows, there’s the wildlife. And the world is fantastic place.\" And we haven’t really made up our mind, about what this world is all about. Some people would think they have [laughs] but still there’s a flickle [sic] of doubts, somewhere or other. That whenever there’s temptation comes up, regarded as fantastically evil, or challenging, you jump sideway, as if you’re riding a temperamental horse. And there’s big problem about that -- that we haven’t accepted our world, thoroughly, properly, and fully. I’m sure lot of you have critical attitude about what I have to say, but this is the-- in fact, it's the *fact* that I have learned from my tradition. I have to say so, if you forgive me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=773.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That the world we are talking about is very simple world, extremely simple world. Which is made out of concrete, plastics, and wood, stones, greenery, pollution, and thin air. Actually every one of you here is sitting on that world. That world is made out of carpet. If you feel guilty it’s too late. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=903.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, shall we say this is the real world or something else that it's going to be? Well, as far as what it concerns, at this particular area is concerned, you and I both are here. This is our world, here, right now. You could say, “Hey, this not true. I could go out, and step out, and ride my car. And I could drive up in the mountains. I could camp out in the mountains, in my sleeping bags.” But still you are sleeping in the sleeping bags. It’s same as you’re sitting on your rug, carpet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=959.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And somehow you can’t get away with that. That this world is real world, actual world, that world we experience, world we are thriving. That world that communicates to our sense perceptions. We could smell the smell of incense, tobacco burning. We could see through electric light bulbs, at this point. Since it’s dark, we could create artificial light. But when sun is comes out, it’s problematic, it’s too hot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1001.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is our world. To the extent that you are going to carry this world when you go back your home. Every one of you going to take us with you. With the stage, with the backdrop, with the flower, and with the decanter, and with the incense burning, with the cameras here. You’re going to take that back your home. You’re going to look back again and again. So you can’t get away from *this* world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1043.0,1082.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that time, of course this world become *that* world, which is the world of the past. But still, your memories are *this* world, nevertheless. Otherwise you can’t have a memory. So you’re still in *this* world, from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1082.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This real world made out of \"this-ness\". In fact made of out of \"us.\" If somebody ask you how this world is made out, what are the substance in it, it’s seventy-five percent of “I,” and twenty-five percent of “am.” [Laughter] So this is, this is our world. “I am” is our world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1126.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we can look into the next level [laughs] -- if you’re up to it [laughs; laughter], if you haven't used enough -- which is the world of emotions. Is entirely different -- I wouldn’t say exactly different but it’s perspectively different, angle. That when we feel so depressed and angry, when we begin to grudge against somebody, grind our teeth, begin to find our world as fantastically aggressive. *Everything* is irritating, including the pylons that exist on the countryside, who are harmlessly placing themselves there, with the barbed wires going, with the wires, little wires going across. And we feel that we been invaded, we be *raped*. We feel so bad about this world. And the world is *depressed*. That we feel that when we experience aggression, that everything's is expression of *injustice*. There’s too much concrete, too much steel, too much *grease*, too much pollution, and we feel so *angry*, frustrated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1182.0,1288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We get *so* involved with that world of emotions, that in fact, it might be a beautiful, sunny day, fantastic weather, and fantastic sight, but we still grind our teeth. Because of it, that there’s-- the world is trying to mock us. That clear blue sky is trying to mock us, insult us. And beautiful sunshine is too embarrassing to look at. And fantastic full moon and beautiful clouds formed around it is insult. And constant *hate*, enormous hate. It is almost unreal that we feel that we are actually levitating from the ground, because we are so *angry*, that we don’t touch our feet on the ground, we feel we are actually levitating, hovering around world. There’s a sense of *so much* aggression is taking place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1288.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, when we feel on the other hand, in passion -- in love, whatever, a lustful state, whatever, saying same thing -- that we begin to feel that there’s enormous glue is sprayed on all over the world, that, trying to stick you into. That, only frustration is that you don’t have enough money, to buy that beautiful clothes you see in the shop window, and beautiful antiques you see in the shops, and beautiful whatever, food, wealth, that exist. You're still trying to keep your image. That I’m not going to be the rest-- like the rest of the countrymen. If I going to buy clothes, I’m going to buy specially, not like the redneck-ers, or whatever. But those are just the sidetracks, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1366.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But actually, in the fundamental, the juice of the juice, is actually happen that you *want* so much, you really want so much -- *so* much so that you begin to spray your own glue all over things, that you want to be stuck on it. And constantly a person, objects, wealth, money, parents, relatives, friends, whatever you have, you begin to spray this apparently kind and sophisticated, whatever, crude, spray of glue all over the place. That you are asking to be stuck.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1433.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And hopefully, you think you can pull them back into *your* scene. So that once I got stuck, I’ve got enough sanity, enough power to pull them back on me. So once I got stuck on my friend, I want to make sure to begin with, that I am enough-- my-- the-- my glue is strong enough that I’m stuck with my friend. Then I could step back, so my friend is stuck enough on *me*. So I don’t have to worry about that, that he’s always going to be with me, or she’s going to be with me, all the time. Because my glue that I sprayed originally was *so* powerful, so strong, and so tough. And that’s the trick that we plays. But problem sometimes is the other way around, in fact. That we find ourselves so stuck on *that*, and that ground is too solid, and too powerful, that we can’t actually step back. And then we *scream* -- and begin to worry about that. But that’s another matter altogether, beyond the subject what we're discussing at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1475.0,1553.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we have the-- another possibility, of another type of emotions which is called bewilderment, stupidity, ignorant, and our synonyms. In that experience we begin to feel, that we are so fascinated with our world, constantly. That we begin to miss the sharp points of everything. That somebody trying to yell at you, call your name. You might answer it. You might love to answer it. But at the same time you feel, that was no point that you should hang on to. And you feel blushed. You begin to give timid smile at the world. That you begin to heal your world from it. If somebody insults you, trying to walk out of it. If you have uncleaned pile of laundry in your corner of your room, you try to not look at them. Let alone think in terms of what is closest to the laundry machine. And even that’s too embarrassing to think about. It’s trying to save our face by ignoring the reality. If somebody’s irritating to you, you begin to feel you can’t be bothered. So \"let us change the conversation, subject of conversation. Let us talk about something else. My fantastic trip to Peru. I took photographs there. I’ve been with the Indians and their name, it's fantastic. So let us change our conversation.\" We become very skillful at changing conversation, that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1553.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes shield over by a sense of little humor, which is put-on humor. That that particular type of humor is very superficial humor. Fundamentally, basically ignoring the whole thing. The sharp corners of certain things that come up to you, it be pushed away, ignored, or play deaf and dumb. And those are the basic principles of emotions that we are talking about at second level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1710.0,1750.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the third level, ultimate level of the idea of bewilderment or confusion is the point in which you begin to experience, that as if world doesn't exist, you don’t exist. And we could say almost this experience is a somewhat mystical experience. That shimmerings of water reflected on the pond brings a notion of stuns, completely stunned. Fixed, solid -- *so* fixed that, experience are no longer experience, but they are purely experience of fixation. And experience are extremely confusing. But at the same time, you don’t want to let go your suction cups, end of your tentacles, to phenomenal world let go. But you would like to hang on to it -- step out of it is not possible. There is a sense of being fixed, being part of the rock, or the mountain, or flat air. Doesn’t have any energy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1750.0,1923.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Experientially, you begin to feel that there is-- your head has been flattened on the top. That you are carrying, or you’re wearing, your head is got stuck on big wok, the Chinese cooking dish, which goes like that. That your head is got stuck on that. You’re carrying this big metal object your head which is flat. But still there there has little dent in it. Experientially you feel that very personally. Your head is not even stuck on a corrugated sheet of iron, that’s too interesting. But completely *flat*. From the level your temple, that whole thing is flattened on your head, that, that you feel not exactly squashed, but you feel that you are fixed with the level of gravity. That you shouldn’t worry about anything else at all. That everything’s there and at the same time, it’s confusingly, not there. But you can’t be bothered to talk about anything at all. That’s the level of stupidity, that you are carrying cast iron head on your self. Your shoulders are stiff, your neck is stiff, made out of cast iron. Whereas you still, you have a heartbeat, which is a reference point. Maybe on the other hand your feet is also cast iron, up to level of your hips. You can’t even move. That the only thing is functioning is lungs, that you breathe in and out, your heartbeat is happen. That’s the level of stupidity, that what we’re talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=1923.0,2058.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now there’s different point of view of approaching that, which is not necessarily the hope, the possibility as such, but there’s what’s known as the principle of three kayas, trikaya. “Kaya” is a Sanskrit word which means simply “body.\" And three kayas is connected with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2058.0,2086.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The first kaya is connected with what’s known as \"dharmakaya\". \"Dharma\" means \"law\", \"norm\" -- law, norm, truth, amongst a lot of other things. The reason why it is called dharmakaya is because the dharma speaks completely, totally, accordance with the language of the ignorant people. Which is the first starting point of confusion. If you are not ignorant and confused, thoroughly, utterly, completely, then we have no dharma. So dharma is related with that language of intelligence. That’s the opposite of ignorant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2086.0,2151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dharmakaya, state of dharmakaya, is the original state of being in which that the opposite of cast-iron placed on your head. But it’s a state of complete openness, complete freedom. It’s so free there’s-- even question of freedom doesn’t apply, to that particular experience. It’s *complete*, it’s open. It’s thoroughly open and utterly open. Magnificently open. It’s complete open so that the question of openness doesn’t apply anymore, at all. Completely spacious, the reference point doesn’t make any differences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2151.0,2219.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that point of view, that there is also manifestation of-- because it’s completely open and completely free, there are also emotions manufactured from that, manifested from that point of view. Which also transcends the three types of emotions we talked about, the stupidity, aggression and passion are also of-- projected in the different forms. In a forms of that transcended version that we talked about the other day, of the five buddha principles, in a completely enlightened version. And there’s capabilities of enormous scope. That you can relate with the universe, you can relate with \"this,\" and you can relate with also \"that.\" That there is also accommodation to be dualistic, if necessary, because dualism doesn’t become particularly threat, or un-kosher as such, from Buddhist point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2219.0,2288.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there’s a complete openness and complete freedom exist. And then beyond that level exist the manifestation of the world. Is that your body-- that they are also living bodies of such particular entities, of a person who had gone through the first level and second level, and also the-- existed in third level, of living body. This third living body is known as-- the second living body, the second emotional level is known as “sambhogakaya,” which is the body-- what literally means “the body of joy,” and sense of celebration. Emotions are no longer become hassle. And third one is called body of emanations, body of existence, manifestations, which is called \"nirmanakaya\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2288.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, if we study any kind of tantric aspects of any areas, that all of those three aspects are related with us, personally, experientially, spiritually, transcendentally, at the same time. So we relate with the third body, what is known as the nirmanakaya, the body of manifestation, as our master, our teacher, who is on earth, who also had achieved the other two. But at the same time, in order to communicate with our body, and our food, our earth, and our clothes, our sense perceptions that, it is necessary that such manifested body is necessary to communicate with us and teach the tantric doctrine or Buddhist doctrine, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2355.0,2421.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, as we develop, students has developed, students also reach a level of *his* body, the teacher’s body, body's manifestation. Then the students begin to experience the level of sambhogakaya, the second level, that emotions could be also transmuted, and able to work with. And beyond that, then students also begin to-- able to find experience that they can tune into the body of dharmakaya which is the open space, all-pervading space, at that level. So there is necessary to have that kind of understanding; if you’re going to study tantra, it is necessary to have those kind of three perspectives. That the buddha families we discussed the other day are related with the second one, the body of joy, of sambhogakaya level, of emotional level. But at the same time, it is necessary to have realization of a body, of a body. And then transcending body and emotion level. Which is higher above, which we are going discuss, that experience we are going to discuss in oncoming talks later on, and begin to talk about maha ati experience, that we’re going to go through the four yogas of maha ati experience. We’re going to go through that later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2421.0,2509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But at this point, it is necessary to relate with first body, of earthly existence, and relating with the vajra master, guru teacher who exist on earth, who is also, is also magician, in some sense. Conjurer in some sense, who has also managed conquer level of emotions, and actually exist on the earthly body. And that may be the point of, aspect of magic, the concept of magic that might be interesting to discuss later on.\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have a discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2509.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, if I may, I would like to express a few opinions about eating meat. [Laughter] In Jose Arguelles’s first class, or second class, he talked about a tribe that was, until the last few years, living in what he defines as \"the golden age.\" And this tribe was completely vegetarian, and they lived in some tropical paradise somewhere. And spent their time singing and communicating with the birds. [Laughter] And a group of anthropologists went to the island to study their culture, and study them as this last golden age tribe living on the planet. And pointed out that the river was full of fish, and that they could easily catch these fish. And they did and began eating fish. And were no longer able to communicate with the birds. [Laughter] The second point is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon? What you’re trying to say at the first point? [Laughter] Can you make statement?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That was it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That was it. Well that’s fantastic. [Laughter; applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2584.0,2693.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: I think that the-- I mean personally accept the doctrine of \"anatman\". But, I would like to say that I think we have two kinds of souls. I think we have an animal soul and a vegetable soul.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm. [Laughing] Are you sure? And lately, plastic soul. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I think the animal soul is, from the place I’m coming from, comparable to hinayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That animals are concerned with their own self-preservation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No doubt.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And develop--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Before we came. Right? Before man came.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2693.0,2753.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Development of the plant soul, or the non-aggressive soul, compares to the mahayana, in that the plants make food, and as it were sacrifice themselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Before we developed vegetable gardens.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well, there were—\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Created by men.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There were fruit trees that the monkeys ate from. The fruit dropped in their hands, they didn’t--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: They didn’t attack animals--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --and eat them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2753.0,2793.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. You’re right. I think if all of us, even the students of Naropa Institute, moving to that area of the golden age, and we would have devastate the whole thing. So there’s not room for all of us. And we would have destroyed the whole thing. That seem to be the problem. And what’s your second question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2793.0,2825.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: It takes twenty-one pounds of vegetable food to make one pound of meat. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be too extreme.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER!1: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You’re destroying the vegetables.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But still from the practical point of view of twenty-one pounds of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Go ahead, yes, please?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That’s my last remark.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmhmm. Yeah. Thank you. That was delightful. [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2825.0,2903.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is it working?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2903.0,2908.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: I have a feel for the transmutation of the dharmakaya body, giving up sense of territory, and sense of space. I have a feel for how to transmute the emotional body, by just experiencing the emotions directly. I don’t have a feel for how you're saying to transmute the sense of physical body into the body of manifestation, so-- to transmute that in the tantric sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2908.0,2937.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think we are not only talking about transmutation, this point. We are talking about actuality. Realizing things as they are to begin with. So then once you begin to realize that, you can easily to transmute. That, like you gather cotton wool, you gather dyed, and when you put them together, you have a different cotton wool. Instead of white, you have red one, pink one, whatever. It’s level of working with the substance that exists. And I think that’s the one of the very interesting point, I’m glad that you raised that point. Is we are not talking about purely immediate transformation. But we have to understand and realize what we are, what we're getting into, to begin with, once we able to do that, what we get into, then there is a possibility that you able to also relate with that particular principle, particular phenomenon, which is called a body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=2937.0,3006.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And question of a body is not a particularly important, but a question of, again it is psychosomatic body -- that a body is no such thing as a body. Body doesn’t really exist, unless there’s psychosomatic body exist which what we call \"body\". What we call \"seeing\", and \"hearing\", and \"tasting,\" and \"feeling,\" and everything: if we don’t have those, we don’t have a body. So we are \"psychosomit-ing\" [laughs] the whole thing, \"psychosomit-ing,\" in the whole thing, if there’s such word. That we are actually making our body, giving our body-- there’s some kind of empowerment, by-- reinforced by psychosomatic state of being. That, when we have a body, we have a body. And actually related with that. And then a certain point you begin to experience a body doesn’t *actually* exist, beyond a psychosomatic level. That I am not only mother of Jack and Jill and Sarah, who-- what else. But I *am* Elizabeth, myself. You begin to realize you are not only mother, but you are what you are, personally. And that personal realization could be very devastating, to a lot of people. As we grow up-- when you talk about a growing up process, as we talk about. It's not so much you're actually growing up, but you’re building higher and higher and a more powerful reference point of view so that because *that* exist, therefore *you* exist. Because you become a educated person, therefore you are important person. And because you can do this and this and this, therefore you are important person. Even the small humblest level, that when somebody says \"hi\", in the middle of supermarket, you feel good. That you be acknowledged. And there’s a constant reference point that you-- as you grow up you begin to ignore yourself, and in fact some point, you begin to depend on more on other people’s confirmation on you. That you begin to collect successive initiations from other people, constantly -- you begin with that. That’s the, what’s traditionally known as, the growing up person, has learned that new trick. Whereas the adolescent, or in the childhood, you don’t quite do so, except that you have reference point to your parents and everything. Then you have to, at the beginning you had learned to speak, learned to toilet trained, and learn to eat solid food. And you begin to develop beyond that level, and you learn to go to school and everything. But then certain point, shift changes. That there’s less reference on *you* as a person. But there’s more reference on the reference point is begin to built up. That, you are just one “you” growing up. Like a pine tree, you grow up. But you depend your growth of your pine tree-ness, is dependent on how many people pass by you, how many people make comment on your existence. That seem to be the basic point. The basic *problem* at the same time. That as we grow up, as we called ourselves \"grown-up\", actually, we could say quite safely, definition of growing up, grown-up person, is that the grown-up person need more reference point, more complimentary remarks, or the otherwise, whatever. That looking for reminder that you exist. That little wretched kid, who is the very naughty, still become respectable citizen, bank manager, guru, or doctor, whatever. That there is a need for a reference point. That seem to be the body that we are talking about, actually is. That the body needs reference point. Is beyond emotional level. That actually your body existence need reference point. That when you grow up you begin to taste food; you need more food, you would like to explore food. And you know how to be polite to your neighbors, or whatever -- you need body to do that. That body is not made out of *you*, as your body, but they're reference point of body, at the same time. That’s why it is a psychosomatic body, from that point of view. It’s very personal, extremely personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3006.0,3337.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2: Then the three bodies you were speaking about -- the body relating to bewilderment, emotion, and body manifestation -- the processes are really very interrelated. It’s not a separate process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3337.0,3350.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. It’s a process of growth. Yes that’s right.\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Lady on the-- at the wall?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3350.0,3378.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3: At one time you spoke of two other bodies, the cognitive mind-body and the something or other, physical body. How do those relate to the kayas?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I didn’t hear what you said.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: About the cognitive mind-body, and there was another body that you mentioned once, something about the physical body? And the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3378.0,3403.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we’re talking about the psychosomatic body at this point, basically. That particular type of body. That which is related with the actual existence which need a reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But that’s the nirmanakaya?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily. But it is possible.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would the other two relate to the other two kayas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3403.0,3439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: There’s possibilities of that. But the whole thing is not all that clean-cut. And seem to be quite a different from Ouspensky’s definitions. [shrugs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3439.0,3469.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: One last question? Shiny-headed gentleman.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Would you please say some more about what you meant, when you said that the dharma speaks the language of confusion and bewilderment? That without complete confusion and bewilderment the dharma doesn’t exist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152#t=3469.0,3497.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1943/collection_resources/76093/file/164152/transcript/40267/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you can speak the language of confusion, that’s very smart. But usually when we’re confused we can’t speak about it, because we’re confused. And that’s what we mean by confusion, you can’t even speak for-- on your own behalf. Because you’re so confused, talk about yourself. 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