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Passion and aggression as solidifying the projector (ourselves), our projection, and the space inbetween. Process of maintenance involves constant hope and fear. Experiencing the qualities of passion and aggression before solidifying them is the working basis of meditation. Not good or bad, they are just an example of samsara. Extended Q\u0026amp;A includes discussion of presentation of dharma in the West; discipline and exertion; vipashyana, or awareness practice; transmuting the energy of passion and aggression; the eight-fold path; and more. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJan 16 2021 to Dec 20 2021 Transcribing: Jessyca Goldstein Checking: Al SanValentin Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA short talk on two of the \"three poisons\" and how they function. Passion and aggression as solidifying the projector (ourselves), our projection, and the space inbetween. Process of maintenance involves constant hope and fear. Experiencing the qualities of passion and aggression before solidifying them is the working basis of meditation. Not good or bad, they are just an example of samsara. Extended Q\u0026amp;A includes discussion of presentation of dharma in the West; discipline and exertion; vipashyana, or awareness practice; transmuting the energy of passion and aggression; the eight-fold path; and more.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/212/151/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699209940","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1699209923_19711009VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":6077.44,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/212/151/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1699209940","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/212/151/original/1699209923_19711009VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1699209926","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":6077.44,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711009VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711009VCTR1 - Public Seminar -  Montreal - Passion and Aggression - Talk 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled \"Passion and Aggression,\" given in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. This is Talk One, given on October 9th, 1971. This is a CTI auto-remaster made October 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, the Montreal tour, October 1971. This will be the seminar on Passion and Aggression, Talk One, October 9th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In this seminar I hope that we have enough chance to practice and put our experience into effect. So seems that talking doesn't seem to be too important. On the subject we are-- of the seminar is passion and aggression, and that is also connected with practice as well, meditation practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=60.0,126.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seems that one cannot work or meditate without any basic material substance. So that this basic material substance is largely consist of confusion and passion and aggression. So that in other word, the confusion-- existence of confusion brings also existence of absence of confusion as well. So the concept of nirvana and samsara are both interdependent from that point of view. And particularly that working on a very rich, basic ground is the only way, it's the only opportunity. In terms of practice that nothing is rejected or nothing is particularly accepted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=126.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Talking about passion, it is something fundamentally magnetizing. That's the definition of passion. Some particular state of being which one wanted to enrich in the security of ego and wanted to maintain its retinue. It's-- passion is also a way of making feeling importance of one's occupation, that one has some important task to perform -- that is to grasp and to collect as much as materials as possible. So it's not only passion for food or passion for clothes as such, but it's a general magnetizing feeling that is passion. And that passion have to maintained by some background of bewilderment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=235.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bewilderment in this case is uncertainty, uncertainty of one's existence, and that one's existence is unknown and not knowing how or what. There's a certain fear of losing one's own ground and so there is a sudden flash of bewilderment. And that bewilderment looks for new opportunities closest to oneself -- is one's own projections. So trying to enrich one's own projections and then grasp them, hang on to them, as though those projections are have nothing to do with oneself but although-- as though they were foreign material, alien material. So regarding the projections as alien material is a way of solidifying the shifty and colorful projections of oneself. And also one tend to solidify the space between oneself and one's projections in order to solidify, concretize, the projections. One have to also make sure that you have solid place to be so, since that one is not quite certain whether we could maintain ourselves without anything. And since it is impossible to do that, in order to maintain oneself, one have to be maintained by something else, by comparison. So in order to achieve that solidity, that we automatically expand ourselves into the projections, and solidify them, and also solidify the space between ourselves and projections, so the whole thing is secured. And that seems to be the source of passion from bewilderment. Some basic way of maintaining oneself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=331.0,502.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As to aggression, again it seems to be the same process that when there is the solidifying space is functioning as it is, that if any new element comes into the picture, in terms of maintenance, automatic reaction is trying to cast off anything threatening. Because aggression tend to create a chaos between projection and projector. And there is uncertainty, the relationship between the projection and projector. That when projector begin to feel projection is becoming more powerful than projector, there's a natural tendency to freeze the ego itself in order to make solid so that projections doesn't become overwhelming to oneself. That's the aggression of suddenly trying to hold and tight and freeze -- sort of a notion of a porcupine. So that if projections can't attack you anymore, if they're supposed to be-- if there is new element, foreign element, or if there is also at the same time familiar element of any kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=502.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the aggression is very much of solidifying, concretizing the projector, and the passion is solidifying the projection and space between the two. And whole process becomes then extremely heavy-handed and solid, as though whole universe is made out of solid iron, and that there is no flowing process or spacious process at all. And the result is that solidness doesn't remain as it is, you have to maintain it. So process of maintenance is constant hope and fear -- which goes on all the time. And that constant hope and fear and experience of passion and aggression is the source of working base in terms of practice of meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=611.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That whole principle of meditation practice is trying to experience the abstract, the is-ness quality of passion as it is, before its action of freezing or solidifying takes place. Same as aggression, that trying to find the abstract, is-ness quality of the aggression as it is. Because those solid activities of passion and aggression and projector are happens constantly, simultaneously all the time. A constant birth and death takes place all the time, so there is always possibilities of chance of able to see the simplicity quality of passion and aggression without letting itself completely ripe and completely solid. And it's a way of finding the right pattern, right evolutionary process, trying to find the proper way. So as far as passion is concerned or the aggression, nothing is regarded as particularly bad. It's absolute and definite example of what samsara is, is constant creation and constant evolvement-- involvement, and constantly going on and on and on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=678.0,795.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But within that constant circle, constant rat race, that there is the element of nirvana or freedom contains within that. In order to maintain its constancy of circling around and around, they must have space in between those situations, which is absence of speed, absence of journey of constant vicious circle. And also at the same time, one would have the opportunities of seeing the birth of passion in its naked quality and birth of aggression in its naked quality. So that energy of passion and aggression is be used as what's called \"buddha activity\" or \"bodhisattva activity\" as the energy, source of energy, of compassion and wisdom. But the solid quality of passion and aggression is be transmuted or transformed into a different pattern altogether. So from practical point of view of meditation that the aggressive quality often gets also in the practice of meditation as well as the passion quality. In other word the trying to enrich oneself and trying to cast off anything, which happens constantly. And that seems to be one of the main topics of meditation in a sense, to try to see the simplicity quality of those process.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell perhaps we could have discussion for short period.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=795.0,957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, what if one is projecting out [INAUDIBLE] and so sort of the seed of passions. What is it that makes it one kind of passion rather than another? I mean-- or is there an answer to that question? Why will one project sort of greed, another person sexual desire, another person envy. You know, and then one solidifies into aggression against that projection. Is there a reason that the energy is different from one thing or another or is it just that it happens that way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there seem to be some kind of general temperament of the projector. Whether it is-- you see of course the passion also would have different textures as well at the same time. It's very aggressive type texture or it has the self-defensive texture or it has the hungry texture. So depends on how fast it goes in terms of speed that it find its way through different rhythm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Which is the fast of those, the aggressive, the self-defensive, and the hungry?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that most fast one is the sexual desire, and self-defensive one seems to comes next, is the jealous or envy type, and so on. It's in other word how sharp it is, how acute, how precise the passion is in a sense. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=957.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When one looks into your patterns of passion or whatever, how is this then-- is this looking into one's own mind and trying to see it as it is? Or is it trying to stop the passion? Or is it trying to, well, just look at it and see it as it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a process of looking at the passion itself, not trying to suppress them or not fascinated by it, but just see the abstract quality of it, simply. Not watch, but just see it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: The abstract quality, which is... ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which is actually-- at the time if you see it directly as it is, it's a bundle of energy. And it doesn't have the association of good or bad or irritating or anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Does one look for the source of this pattern or does one just look at the pattern itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the pattern itself. It's the illogical aspect of it -- abstract, that's what I mean, abstract. If you trying to work out logically and explain yourself, \"You been silly, you have a passion,\" it somehow doesn't work. But if you able to see the-- its natural quality beyond the logic, its instinctive quality as it is, then somehow the-- you are becoming one with the passion completely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Then spontaneously will you be able to see its source?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is the source itself. Whole thing is that source is *you* in a sense. So if you become completely one with the passion, you'll be able to become one with the source. So the object of passion is to arouse you, so if you become part of it then the unskillful quality of the passion dissolves by itself, but energy remains as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=1056.0,1183.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yes. Am I reading you right that we have-- I mean in this what looks like a spatial setting we have certain energies, you would say these are projections we have -- which we because of habit have solidified into actual bodies. Is this what-- is this the gist of your message?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uhh.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It’s all illusion, but it is all real at the same time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Into body, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, if you want to call them that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uhh. Well, uhh--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Are you saying that materialism is aggression and passion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. I think so--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well what do you do with the case of Tibet? Did the Tibetans dream up the Chinese? Is this--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tibetans what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Did the Tibetans dream up the Chinese?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Dream up?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Did they project them and then solidify them through passion and aggression? Is one entitled to go that far and say one...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. Chinese are definitely real -- as far as I remember. [Laughs; laughter] It's not their physical existence as such, but then there is a Chinese and Tibetan, and then there is Tibetan's version of the Chinese, and the Chinese version of the Tibetans, which is we impose on it, we put extra cast over it. So that's the whole differences. I mean, when I-- when we talk about solidified space and transcending that into open space, that doesn't mean to say you have to see complete world as empty without people, without land or without mountains and houses. It doesn't mean to say that. Houses, mountains, and people, land, remain as it is, still. But you don't have to have that very fixed, solid concept on it anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is there any way that I can gain control over my projections?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's whole thing what we were talking about, is in terms of practice of meditation and trying to see it as it is first before you start on anything. First we have to have real understanding and real relationship to it. Once you able to see how is it is then overcoming or transcending it is not difficult at all. It comes naturally. Because there is the transcending solid space quality in you, you have this basic intelligence, and we are basically spacious, fundamentally. But we put -- we impose extra thing on ourselves. That's why it is called \"illusion\", \"maya\". We interpret them differently.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Can I surmount this if I have a desire to surmount it or do I have to give up all desire in order to surmount my egocentricity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to have-- first of all it seems that one have to develop some bravery that you are willing to lose your individuality, your hold, fear of becoming insane, and all sorts of other things that with us; and willing to give up all of those, any kind of hold. And then next situation comes next. Which is in fact actual practical demonstration is meditation, where you-- meditation is delib-- it's actual practical way of how to let go, how to step out of centralized notion of \"me\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=1183.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Can you ever let go completely as long as you have a human body? Isn't this the source? Isn't the body itself, the senses of the body, have a lot to do with the source of the passions and projections?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think necessarily body will hold you down, at all. It's-- body as what we see is mind-body anyway. The physical body is just purely kind of based on survival.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: As long as we have a surviving instinct it seems-- I mean, I don't know if it's an instinct. We want to-- we have to eat. And we have-- we seem to be very conscious of trying to survive like we're dying. How is it-- how can you get rid of that grasping [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see it doesn't mean to say that-- transcending passion or aggression doesn't mean to say that you have to develop some way of transcending completely any kind of physical need. Because there is the distinction between the two is that once you able to transcend the passion or aggression towards you and your projections, then in fact you will be able to look after your body *more*. Because generally we looked after ourselves neurotically, or with self-consciously, but when there's neurosis begin to clear out and self-consciousness is cleared out then you get a complete open perspective of your-- to yourself, and there's no emotional attachment involved, therefore you could look after yourself much more. It's like a physician performing operation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Is there always a sort of delay where you see where the passions arise and then you see them or is-- do passions ever stop arising? Do they always arise?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's alternating constant all sorts of types, constantly. I mean there is gap, of course, of just a sort of dull period, and then there will be alternating passion or aggression or other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=1445.0,1597.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Are you be able to explain the importance of the hinayana, mahayana, and mahamudra stages? And the reason I ask this is yesterday [Public Talk: The Open Path] when someone asked you about drugs and various other things that you could possibly incorporate into your meditation practice, you answered by saying -- it seemed to me -- that on a level which I know as a beginner I find difficult to do. I find that it's more important to-- the discipline at the beginning and the exertion is more important and I feel I can't achieve those higher levels. So I was just wondering what you feel is the important thing for beginners? The exertion, the discipline, or the mahamudra practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, probably we should have another talk on it in this seminar so to go through it thoroughly and completely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=1597.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well I have a question that's somewhat similar to [INAUDIBLE WORDS] referred to later. Last night [Public Talk: The Open Path] a question was asked about concentration--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you talk louder?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Oh, I'm sorry. From what you've just said now about passions, a question arises in my mind as to at the beginning for a beginner, is it necessary in order to see these passions for a person to pull himself together, at first, and sort of see himself as a self, first of all, before looking at his passions, sort of developing a concentration through exertion before attempting effortlessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Looking at passions?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well sort of [INAUDIBLE], sort of pulling himself together. The question was about concentration and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --like you gave--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: --a simile of riding a horse, and that you would use a concentration, first of all, to see yourself, and then after a while the concentration becomes not so self-conscious, something that's sort of more natural. And is it at that point that one can sort of effortlessly look at the passions or see the passions for what they are, or do you believe that concentrated effort in the beginning is necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's saying the same thing more or less. That you begin to very narrow way at the beginning. That not introducing any unnecessary material, food for the mind, at all. Just leave it as it is. And it's more of simplifying everything as is in itself become the discipline which brings you concentrated state, rather than being in a state of concentration deliberately. And then through that simplicity you begin to see the situation as it is completely. But at the same time, side by side, that daily practice, daily life situation, also comes constantly. Like if you have a fixed schedule for meditating and then you also have the gaps while you don't meditate and while you work or while you do other things, it's the -- at that point there's all sorts of emotional situations arises more because you are not creating a special situation for meditating as such and you are expose yourself completely world outside which invites all sorts of different attitudes. And it is that point, that way of seeing the passion and aggression, seem to be necessary and important. So effort of simplicity and concentration side by side with other things comes up naturally. So what usually happens is that you develop what's called \"awareness practice\", \"vipashyana\", which is a kind of continuing the aftereffect of sitting meditation so that that provides natural space generally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] concentration?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Arose out of the discipline, yeah. So that in fact you don't have to try to manage two things at the same time necessarily, but you have already background of that openness, the aftereffect continues in everyday life. So if anything comes up it would be very clear and very precise, things like passion and aggression, in the midst of that. It's like a fish jumping up onto from middle of pond. It would be obvious and simple. So then one is -- were able to actually appreciate that sudden upsurge of passion or aggression, able to appreciate them, able to see them as they are.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you think that a person who just is starting practice is able to main-- well not maintain this, is able to rest in a state like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a matter of-- again it's a matter of commitment. Anybody decide to practice, even it doesn't matter whether you are advanced or beginner, if you have a sense of commitment to yourself. And that commitment automatically means twenty-four hours work anyway. So I don't think beginner or advanced, it doesn't make all that difference at all. In fact these two situations, sitting and everyday life practice, are equally important. And particularly important for beginners from that point of view that sitting doesn't become purely just a special act of closely connected with meditation and afterwards daily life becomes then something quite different. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] well if I were to equate this commitment with exertion. You know you have exertion and intelligence. Is there-- even if it's not a sort of pointed in the direction effort, there is always an idea of exertion and diligence. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] being aware, not trying to [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a... You see there's constantly being there is awareness opposed to mindfulness. And that there's one danger comes along with that is instead of just being aware of things as they are, have a general open background of awareness as they are, there's a tendency of that \"I'm being aware of things\" so the self-conscious watcher makes whole thing less spacious and more deliberate and less loose. So the result is that one may not be able to detect appropriate situation that you're able to work with. So in other word passion or aggression might come up and they might bypass you without noticing them because you are so much on the guard by being self-conscious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But why is the-- even that concept of not having an \"I\" always being aware, well there just seem to me personally, can be such a difficult thing to understand from the beginning--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that seem to be the most important--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] naturally--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --most important thing of all. In fact in many cases the distinction between Buddhist approach and other approach have been started on that. And it is not particularly Western difficulty for the Westerners alone. I mean people in the world, everybody, has ego and [laughs] they find it difficult. Everybody finds it difficult. But that's one of the essential things about Buddhism and Buddhist practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What would be your advice to some [INAUDIBLE] anybody as to how to properly apply himself or properly approach this awareness without consciously striving?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it would be difficult to give just general answer to that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: I guess it would have to be [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --because individuals have a different way of approaching to themselves so I think it have to be done sort of individually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=1658.0,2197.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, I have a question. In an article called Cutting Through [ed: now published in Collected Works Vol 3] which you had in the magazine MAITREYA, you said that being moved by the wisdom of -- well such as what we are listening to here now -- doesn't mean we have to accept the exterior, you know, such as the form of Tibetan Buddhism or Zen Buddhism. But does this mean that we don't have to accept-- for instance if we're going to follow the path of the Buddha, then does this mean we don't accept the four noble truths and the eightfold path such as like 2,500 years have seen the wisdom of these, you know, of what the Buddha taught? And so being moved by this wisdom, then to a certain extent, shouldn't we also follow the form of the four noble truths? You know that there is suffering; that desire and passions are the cause of suffering; that there is a means to the end of suffering, like the eightfold path; the eightfold path is the means to this end of suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd so if we're going to bring Buddhism to the West, then -- and our problem of course as you mentioned also in this article is that we have a problem with psychological materialism. But if we're going to approach psychological materialism as psychologists, then it may be then we'll be starting a lot further behind then if we started where the Buddha started, which is with the reality of suffering, and then going on from there on the eightfold path of right view point, right aspirations, and so on. And I was wondering if you feel that for people who want to follow the Buddha in the West, it should not be a more direct application of the four noble truths and the eightfold path in our daily lives? You know to study of the actual teachings of the Buddha and of the patriarchs and lamas and to put them into action in our daily lives rather than trying to approach it from our own psychological over-development, which has led to many of our problems here in the West, at least, I don't know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=2197.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems saying the same thing. That you have a-- in order to begin rightly and properly, that you have to start on the facing the actual reality of life as it is. And -- well that's nothing to do with exterior particularly, that's just reality. I mean exterior in terms of purely cultural attempt to Americans trying to speak like Tibetans or trying to become Tibetans or Japanese or Vietnamese. And that unnecessary attempt somehow seem to be unnecessary attempt, as long as they could pick up the teaching as it is. I mean externally they don't have to imitate the culture, necessarily, and we have our own culture. And actual application of eightfold path and four noble truth is, of course, meditation practice, which is necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd that's why that it's not a psychological approach in the sense of psychologists would do, but it's working on yourself. That if people want to commit to the teaching they don't have to be particularly faithful and patriotic about the teaching or the teacher necessarily, but if they are sufficiently involved with themselves, working on themselves, commitment is to themselves, it's twenty-four hours work, then automatically that will become person's way of life. I mean such as like any kind of life situations becomes right for you. So as long as you are able to see the situation where you are and how you could you help yourself to begin with, which need a certain amount of compassion to yourself and softness in heart, so to speak. Once that kind of basic generous and compassion attitude is begin to establish to oneself, then one's physical behavior and one's way of dealing with others in terms of exterior becomes of course a natural process. That's the guideline. And that's the way of telling how much a person is able to work on themselves is depends on how they show, how they behave.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo in order to introduce Buddhism in this country, that the first approach seems to become is the importance of commitment to themselves in terms of meditation practice and to work on the aggression and passion that we were discussing. And of course at the same time, somehow, you have to-- you need certain amount of intellectual study as well at the same time. That you don't have the one extreme or the other extreme. That person would be-- should be read you know books and should study about them intellectually, as well as practice as well at the same time. But I feel that fundamentally that we can't just start on the top; we have to start from the bottom to introduce the sort of simple, basic hinayana approach, and then the compassionate quality of the mahayana approach. And the other things, vajrayana teachings, not ready. That we seem to be still need to work on those basic grounds, basic basis.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well the Buddha started with suffering, and wouldn't this also be starting at the bottom? That if you see the reality of suffering--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's what I mean. It's the first sermon in Sarnath started on hinayana level to begin with, yeah. And people-- sometime people find that's very gloomy way of beginning, but it seems very inspiring to begin with some reality of some kind. And that sort of prevents dreaming.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But we learn all of this teaching from the Buddha and the patriarchs and lamas and then-- and we have a teacher such as you who come to teach to us today. Then is it that should we not have some sort of -- not blind faith -- but should we not have some at least faith in the fact that someone has understood this before us and that we know that the Buddha taught these truths, you know he was the first person to teach these truths in such a manner? And so should we not be also more aware -- along with practicing the hinayana, you know, which you can begin as you said -- but should we not also be aware of the fact that this is something taught by the Buddha and that we should also be quite-- be conscious of the fact that this was taught by the Buddha? And that this is Buddhist practice or awareness practice that we're practicing and not just sort of stumbling and bumbling from one religion to another, you know? We should make it quite clear to ourselves what it is we are approaching, what it is we are studying. This *is* buddhadharma, this is the teachings of the Buddha. Whether it's 2,500 years after his death or 25,000, and it's still is the teaching which the Buddha gave. And this is not his wisdom but it's a wisdom which he handed down to the teachers that we have today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=2331.0,2689.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see there are some situations of-- there are some situations of the sort of living quality of the teaching and that particular kind of energy goes on. And seems that it is necessary to also appreciate ourselves. There are millions of other Americans haven't heard of such thing or they maybe going through the very acute pain, suffering. They very need it, such help, but even haven't heard of it, never thought of it. So a very few of us who have heard of it and who had put into this situation is extremely fortunate.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also there are a lot of self-made teachers who had tried to work out their own cookbook of amalgamating all the religion in the world together and presented their own fashion, which hasn't been tested and exactly practiced for a long period of time. And it seems that we got all the opportunities of that kind. That in fact the energy of the lineage that comes down to individuals are that you are part of the lineage. And there's some sort of dignity behind the whole thing is what's known-- called \"tathagata\", which means \"those who have gone\", those who did it, those who have achieved it, practiced it. And 2500 years time there were millions of teachers who had practiced and handed down by generations, generation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo well it will be-- it doesn't have to be patriotic, but at the same time that somehow learning process should be related with so many people put their energy into it and the lineage, rather than that \"I'm teaching my teaching. I'm come here today and I speak my thing alone.\" But it's-- the audience speak through me as well as the lineage speaks through me. So there you are, sort of negative and positive current coming together. And that situation happens and I think that it would be important to see that way. That there is some kind of application and some kind of information that is living one rather than just purely thought of, somebody made it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=2689.0,2899.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What do you mean by spaciousness? You talk about spaciousness all the time, a spacious setting. I don't know, what is that, what do you mean of being open?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose what I mean is the situation of-- of absence of self-conscious, self-centralized.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You mean that you're not conscious anything -- of a self you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, whenever there is a self-consciousness of \"me\" and \"mine\", one also demands external situations according to it and everything must fit according to you. Or if they don't fit you, then you become frustrated. So there is very overcrowding game going on constantly. And there's no room other than that, which is not particularly inspiring. It's so busy and constantly exchanging and reshaping whole thing according to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But what if it’s spacial? What if it, like, is like none of this overcrowding? It's-- what is it? You can-- that you were apart from it, is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Apart from it? Are you the witness to all these things?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on how you perceive it. You don't have to particularly become witness of it, but it's absence of all these overcrowded situation. That things could be seen precisely and properly and skillfully able to deal with them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What do you mean by that anyway, when you're able to see them as it is, a situation? Like really, what it's like or you're not involved in it? Is that what you mean? That you're not emotionally involved or identify with the situation. Is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose, yeah. It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But you are not, like, you are-- you just identify from that situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=2899.0,3029.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You wouldn't identify with that situation from point of view of-- from the point of view of emotions, yeah, which blinds you and which doesn't help you to see things properly -- because you have your own desires. Either you are overwhelmed by the hope or fear of something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You can't have right perspective on the situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean there's tendency to become blind or dumb or blind because you are so much carried on-- carried away by so many things.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE] when you say \"become one with\" whatever it is you are doing or the situation or like \"becoming one with the passion\" and then you can transcend it or it dissipates or whatever it is: what do you mean by that? And how do you-- and how does it transcend, how does it dissipate, or how do you overcome it by becoming one with it? Is it that you actually when you become one with it, you are the director of it, and it doesn't direct you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, nothing happens because if anything directs anything, that means not becoming one particularly. It's one trying to manage the other one. So one-- becoming one is that the whole process become simple, so that you don't have to have balance of power. You don't have to [UNCLEAR: be in accordance of?] balance of power anymore. That it's again something to do with attitude to it. I mean like if you're drinking cup of tea, you don't have any particular attitude to it -- you just pour it and drink it. So it's simple and natural, and you could say that point you become one with the cup of tea.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But you're not attached to it, is that what you mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, but that you have no...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You don't care one way or the other, or is that what you mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=3029.0,3191.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not as naive as that somehow either. [Laughs] It's kind of extremely direct to the passion or whatever it is, extremely direct and simple. And you don't need to use any other alternative ways anymore in terms of passion or in terms of desire or anything. It's direct and straightforward.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What? Direct and straightforward to what? Acceptance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Acceptance? Well, these words have all sorts of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, I know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --different connotations. Talking about oneness with the situation is that there is almost a situation of that you don't have to put any effort to it once you let-- once you open without trying to defend yourself anything emotionally. That you are completely open to it. And because you are completely open to it then you are direct -- you see things directly, simply. It doesn't need to-- in other word it doesn't need to report back to yourself and manipulate and have a special strategy to it. It doesn't need any of those complications anymore. It just simple and you perceive it. It's there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And then what do you do -- once you perceive it and it's there, then what happens? Then you can control that passion, overwhelming passion or desire or whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it happens what is right thing to happen. If you see right there, then you begin to develop sort of confident and you don't have to defend yourself anymore. So you become less paranoid.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [UNCLEAR: More friendly?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, and then you be able to use the situation properly. And the next inspiration comes. Next situation, whatever you're supposed to be doing, it happens naturally. That's what means \"skillful means\" -- is you see as it is, and then you act as it should be, as it is.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well then you're just getting back to what I asked you the first question was you know, when we were talking about the-- saying things becoming one is identifying from the situation there [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Then you-- if you just identify with them you become-- like you have the control or you aren't involved in that action or passion or anything because you see it for what it is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That's the same thing as when you identify it when you're with one?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And that's the same thing as when you call this relatedness when you can-- when you're able to do things easily and everything falls into place--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --and you reach a state of relatedness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems if you're getting completely in it, like a master artist would paint just naturally and he produces work of art. Whereas if he's conscious of his painting then probably he couldn't.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So you let it flow intuitively like.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=3191.0,3393.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Does that mean if a person is to have sexual relations with another person, if he let himself go, he'd be controlling his passions?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if he had to control--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: I mean he wouldn't-- it doesn't sound like--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depend--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --like he would be master of his passions.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it depends on your openness, depends on the starting point as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How are you to judge your openness? You can't help but make judgments, as a beginner especially it seems. How can you help-- how can you judge whether you're open or not when you're, for instance, having sexual relations with someone? You just, you know-- I mean plenty of people can say \"well, I'm doing it. And that's fine and I'm open about it. I'm not thinking about it.\" But is that really being master of one's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you say to yourself that, it doesn't sound like master -- if you have to confirm yourself that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But still, if you didn't confirm yourself, if you didn't say anything but you just went ahead and carried on, it sounds like you-- we--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --we've been doing that all along. Just going ahead and carrying on an instinctive level.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Still somehow there's something that sounds like you're sort of continuing through the fog. That's the case, there's no intelligence, sharpness, at all. Because once the ultimate spontaneity we be talking about has the natural sharpness, intelligence, which doesn't have to be ego-centered intelligence, but it has its own intelligence and precision.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But this is -- but then this achievement of this intelligence involves some sort of development that has to be... doesn't there have to be sort of a preliminary practice to achieve this? Like you can't just go ahead and be at the beginner -- as a beginner -- you can't just go ahead and *be* open because obviously you haven't been open and you don't know how to, it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to-- even for particularly for the beginner, that's the-- this is very preliminary step. This open thing we've been talking about is, in fact, it's a very preliminary one. And you see, you can't have \"how to do it.\" Once you begin thinking how to do it, then seem to be very difficult to do it. But important point is just there's certain resistance of the-- of being open, constantly. And sort of almost literally acting as though open and push yourself into the situation just to step a little bit out into the-- step towards the openness. There's no other magic there, there's no other practice. It's like the story of a monkey imitating a sage meditating, and finally the monkey had achieved state of meditation as well. It's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: How does one know what to imitate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=3393.0,3591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well with the situation as it is, just-- I don't mean imitating in the literal sense, but whenever there is resistance to open, only thing one's can do is just to trying to go beyond the resistance, even if one have to use sort of force. Pretending from that point of view. But that pretending seem to be good. I mean that's how whole thing begins. Like sitting meditation as well that it is-- that we're pretending we're meditating at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But the resis-- what's not clear to me is resistance. How does one see the resistance or how does one see-- how does one see, period, that one is in a fog? How to-- what the-- how can one see the situation as it is, as you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you have to open it, you have to just look at.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But haven't we all along been looking at things the way we think they are? We tend-- we have our concepts, and how are we to transcend those concepts?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't have to particularly transcend the concepts necessarily, but they have to be in some kind of-- constantly there is something-- something which is not complete, in all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=3591.0,3714.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It seems like the big question is the manner of presentation of the dharma to the West. And are you trying to say that-- well supposing there are a handful of people that want to become enlightened quickly and to save all sentient beings, and they use a method at the beginning which is very strict, a lot of self-discipline, and they progress and progress: are you saying that these people have to be sensitive? That in order to help many of the other people that the other people are going to go through more preliminary stages, one before this strict self-discipline, that is just a kind of letting loose and getting rid of a lot of things? For instance people talk in terms of psychiatry serving a purpose as a stepping stone for someone who is going to eventually take up the spiritual practice. In a sense maybe it's a shallow spiritual practice, but it's a stepping stone. Is that what you're trying to say, that there is a more preliminary stage and the strict discipline eventually becomes very necessary? Or are you saying that it just never becomes really necessary?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think these both plays important part side by side. That strict discipline as well as the openness we been talking about had to be side by side. It's had to be equal because you have the sitting meditation experience as it is, and then you have the daily life experience which is another kind of experience, and somewhere there should be link between the two. And that link is only develop awareness of the style is we been talking about.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But is it from my ignorance or being very naive that I sense that in these times of urgency to make people realize how quick-- how important it is to quickly realize their self or their true self, instead of taking thirty years to progress what could take five years, wouldn't-- isn't this an important fact?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't see the any connection between the two subject, what you trying to say.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Well I just-- I guess trying to be sensitive to various people who are involved in some spiritual practice. I see people involved in one form. And because we in the West have been under the illusion of being free is just to do anything you want and we're still very hung up, when someone gives them the idea that, \"well, if you take up spiritual practice just be mindful of sex or drugs or whatever,\" and it seems that many of them are misled and just go ahead and do it, say \"yeah, I'm mindful of it.\" And it seems to keep the ball rolling in a sense, rather than make them realize that let's get into our mind and keep being mindful, or to discipline ourself and to maybe put those things down that we're attached to for a while and then take them up when we're no longer attached to them. [Trungpa Rinpoche laughs] It seems to me that-- my sense is it would be quicker.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quicker taking them again. You don't have to take anything again to begin with. And the next situation is that when we talk about mindfulness it doesn't mean to say \"just go ahead and do what you like.\" But at the same time mindfulness doesn't mean to say imprisoning yourself. And at state of mindfulness other complications becomes unnecessary, becomes irrelevant. But you can't make people to meditate for twenty-four hours a day for five years. So they must have to eat, they must have to sleep, they must sometime go out to the bathroom. There are gaps that you don't cover your time by meditating all the time. So those gaps are-- shouldn't be wasted either. So in other word practice becomes twenty-four hours work. So in order to make practice twenty-four hours work you have to have mindfulness-- or awareness rather, of special type, as well as that your sitting meditation. So the discipline becomes twenty-four hours work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You mean just put it into practice what you've found out or experienced in meditation like, you know, you are aware constantly at twenty-four hours a day?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: And you work on yourself twenty-four hours a day?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Twenty-four hours a day, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: No matter if you're not sitting in meditation or anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well whenever there is a gap.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as sitting meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Then sitting meditation seems to be the foundation and that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: --it must be practiced very regularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=3714.0,4003.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But aren't the gaps-- isn't it what you do during the gaps important?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what I mean, precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Doesn't it require great effort and exertion to keep yourself aware and mindful during these gaps?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see that's the matter of how to introduce it. That there is a way that you don't have to split your personality into two: one is being mindful and one is cooking food.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Doesn’t it require great exertion all the time to remain [INAUDIBLE] ?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's depends on your sitting meditation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah, but if you have great exertion in your sitting meditation, then it should pervade your whole-- all the time in your daily life, shouldn't it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it somehow doesn't work just like that equal, but--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems to be -- it depends on how you able to cope with your world, because in sitting meditation you don't have to cope with anything in particularly except your mind and body, which is right there and nobody's attacking you on the spot or nobody's trying to seduce you on the spot. So whole situation is secured for you, you have a particular room, particular cushion to sit on. But when you step out of that then everything begin to happen to you. And at that moment it's moment of exercising the openness and mindfulness at that point. So--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But then who's trying to do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But then who's trying to do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who's trying to do?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is the word \"openness--\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] .\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: No, you -- at that point you step out of the situation that's secure, and you attempt-- you attempt to apply, you know, [UNCLEAR: not be surprised?] .\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You tend to apply?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Well, how did you put it? How did you just say it? You step out of the situation secure?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you are stepping into that vulnerable situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Yeah. And then you spoke of mindfulness of that time actually...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well yeah that time there is some awareness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And so then you are in a situation of being afraid of losing it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the opportunity then. If you're afraid of it, then you have to work on your fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=4003.0,4175.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I can see when a person is in an advanced stage of meditation where the great effort wouldn't be needed, it would become spontaneous and natural. But at the beginning, a beginner would definitely, I think, need much self-discipline and exertion before he could reach that stage of naturalness and spontaneity and being able to maintain this awareness naturally, isn't that so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see awareness is not result of mental gymnastic. It's a result of able to relate with your projections.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But it doesn't just *happen* [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could happen, it could happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: If it did we wouldn't have to practice meditation for many hours and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that doesn't work that way because you need also-- you're physically running around, and you are constantly involved with situations and you have to stop that flow and sit and meditate at the same time. So you have very concentrated practice then going on side by side.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You're saying exertion. What you are saying is that it requires exertion [INAUDIBLE]--.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't mean exer--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: --concentration. You have to sit and do concentrated meditation, more meditation. You can't just sit back and relax and \"this is meditation.\" It's-- you have to sit and you know it's dynamic, it requires hard work to do good meditation. Isn't that right? And then if you put exertion into your meditation, and you want to maintain that attitude you know, in your daily life, then you must you know, put forth exertion in your daily life. I mean I'm talking about now the beginner mainly. And of course there is exertion all the time, but after a while the, you know, a person-- exertion becomes a natural way of life. It doesn't seem to be that you're exerting yourself. It seems to be natural; the effort is effortless after a while. But at the beginning I would think that it would require great effort before you can advance in meditation and in towards enlightenment. I can't see how it's possible to advance on the path without great exertion at the beginning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well depends on what you mean exertion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It means hard work, just hard work.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you mean in terms of technique that you should...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: To maintain good meditation, to do good meditation. To look into your mind and to have the courage to face your fears and your hang-ups and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that of course you do have to have definite discipline, but the idea of exertion in the meditation itself is there's a different way of looking at in terms of technique, which is purely sort of technical thing. But of course you have to create a situation for you to meditate. And if there's attempt to shorten meditation or something, or if there's attempt to do something else instead of meditating, you have to bring yourself into that situation, definitely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Can we find another -- other words than \"work\" and \"exertion\"? They have a grim connotation and there's so much joy involved--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well what is work and what is effort?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: I don't think they're grim, I think they face reality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: There's so much joy involved in this.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Of course, there's lots of joy -- there's lots of joy in hard work too.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What is the-- what do you mean by \"exertion\"? What does that mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It means hard work. When you sit -- have you ever done meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: You work hard at it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I don't think it's hard work. I think it's just facing reality, just sitting there seeing things that-- I don't think it's hard work. I think it's just facing up to what a situation is. That takes bravery and courage.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Sure. Exactly, well that's hard work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But Rinpoche, isn't--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: It's good, it feels good to do hard work. It's joyful, it's wonderful.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah, so if it's joyful then there shouldn't be exertion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: But it *is* exertion too, everything is [laughing] exertion.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Is there a difference between--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When the wind blows it's exertion. When a baby learns to walk it's exertion, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=4175.0,4425.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Has anyone realized buddhahood-- I don’t-- without this strict self-discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Has anyone attained buddhahood without strict... ? Yeah, there are number of cases, but that doesn't mean to say it applies to everybody. There is what's called different types of completely prepared people, completely ready people, and then there is open people, and then there is the have to be cultivated people. Different types of people.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But wouldn't this go back to the previous-- maybe previous life in which they had--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so, yeah--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: --done it with self-discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but they begun as ordinary person -- they never begun as even bodhisattvas but just ordinary person. But that doesn't mean to say that this have to apply for everybody, particularly. In fact the id-- notion of sudden enlightenment is not particularly-- one could say there's no such thing as sudden enlightenment as such without going through evolutionary process of development. And of course there is a sudden glimpse of it, although not complete sudden enlightenment without going through evolutionary process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=4425.0,4526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In the article \"Cutting Through\" in MAITREYA, you talk about the sword of Manjushri which I assume is the same as this open view, it’s one aspect of it. How does this sword of Manjushri manifest itself in the world of ethics and morality and the practice of virtue and not doing evil? Does this open view, this seeing, have an aspect of-- well, does it manifest itself in a certain form of, say, a life of virtue and self-discipline and so on?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you cut through-- what you think is \"cut through\"? What does it mean, \"cutting,\" do you think?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Oh -- to attain to this natural state of openness and nonduality.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So what don't you think one should have to cut?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I don't understand the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The cutting means... ? What destroys? What cuts? When you say \"cut\", sword of Manjushri cuts something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the whole point: that it cuts anything to do with ego, and wholesome and right livelihood automatically presented by itself there. It's anything to do with unwholesome life or overemphasized ego work of any kind is based on that trying to maintain one's ignorance, and the sword of Manjushri cuts that ignorance. So one person becomes awake person and begin to see the directions or whatever is healthy direction is be taken; whatever is unhealthy it is already cut through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is this cutting through achieved through meditation? This wisdom, is it reached through meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there again we go on and on and on. It's not only meditation alone but meditation in a wider sense. That sitting, as well as everyday life awareness -- twenty-four hours work.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: I was thinking when I asked that that meditation is the eighth stage on the eightfold path, and it's preceded by seven intelligent attitudes for right living which seem to be a way of morality on which this meditation is based. Are these seven steps a necessary form to a person's way of life? Or is this natural state of openness a completely formless thing which has no relation whatsoever to this-- the other seven stages of morality in the eightfold path?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that eightfold path is-- happens simultaneously; you don't have to go through stage by stage. They all happen simultaneously on the person's being, and so meditation comes along with it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Well not so much in terms of time, but in terms of exertion, the exertion of the first seven stages, which do seem to have in one sense form and necessitate a certain way of life and certain daily practices such as meditation and maintaining a certain attitude of mind.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is there a-- in this way of seeing the situation, a certain way of life which is necessary or more rapidly conducive to the attainment of this state of openness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Obviously, yeah. Otherwise you wouldn't have the suggestion of being open at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What would this way of life be?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anything which is not connected with ego grabbing, any kind. It's very simple in this case. There's no complication at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: When you talk about the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=4526.0,4835.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: It's the-- isn't it that there's a kind of psychological law that applies to many mammals and that there is this avoidance -- and in man too -- this avoidance of large energy changes? Like large energy changes, we have a tendency to avoid them, to be afraid of them. It's a large emotional change. And it is then that we become afraid, then ego is involved in that. Well what we have to learn, maybe the difference between say responding to life, responding to what is happening. I mean if there is no \"I,\" I'm not doing anything anyway. That there's someone else. Like when I was talking about sex before -- there's someone else, they’re not doing anything either. That there's this response to just energy change and that responding to light, and that is a difference between that and being attached to your desires so that what-- Part of the process of meditation as a practice is to try to learn -- I'm asking you this -- is to learn to how to experience large energy changes quietly, with a quiet mind, tranquilly. Would you say that this is true or this is so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, meditation is definitely a way of working with energy, and that's why this idea of transmutation. And whenever there is energy connected with passions of any kind, that the energies of these passions being transmuted into skillful means and the ignorant quality of the energies sort of being purified so to speak. So the result is that I wouldn't say exactly necessarily tranquil and peaceful in the ordinary sense of that people talk about state of bliss as such, but you get into state of that complete confidence without needing any defense. So the behavior of the person becomes very skillful and inspiring to other fellow people, which is the definition of ideal bodhisattva.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: So that anything becomes-- even then passion and aggression then become the vehicle. They can become the vehicle [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: They become vehicle. Their existence becomes vehicle and they be sort of worked through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I was wondering what you think is the relationship between then passion and compassion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the-- I suppose you could say that transmuted passion is compassion and transmuted aggression is energy, power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=4835.0,5057.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I wanted to ask you about ascetic practices. When one is beginning on a spiritual path, is a life of ascetic practices the only ideal way to begin?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think that it should be understood very clearly and completely that probably the definition of asceticism had to be understood properly. If we are talking ascetic practices in terms of sitting on a pin cushion or standing on your head or all sorts of practices, any kind of ascetic practice from that point of view of putting yourself into extreme case, which Buddha did already in fact before he attained enlightenment, and he discovered it wasn't the way. And there is another kind of ascetic practice which is simplifying everything into basic minimum that which doesn't require punishing yourself as such, but everything is so simple that you don't have further sidetracks to-- even if you wanted to have further sidetracks to have you can't get it. Everything is simplified into basic minimum of simplicity rather than asceticism in terms of exerting pain on oneself. So that kind of simplicity seem to be necessary at the beginning, but one doesn't have to sort of-- other than that-- well there will be sort of disciplines of course, but the disciplines are regarded as a way rather than putting yourself into any particular extreme case. It's the way that you walk on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: [INAUDIBLE] since we seem to want to provoke a state of chaos and irritation. It seems to be part of what's desirable here, to have things to work with. And yet most people there are beginning on a spiritual path. So there seems to be another type of situation created there as a beginning environment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a very severe thing. Very ascetic thing to not have comfort. Chaos. [Laughs] And people love to have everything is orderly, methodical, and mathematical, but when you don't have that, that makes them to look into themselves more. Seem to be that's quite ascetic thing to do. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=5057.0,5249.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Is it possible to create ascetic situations for yourself that would be the same as a teacher creating them for you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that happens, seems always, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: But if you discipline yourself, isn't the basis of that -- at least in the initial stages -- isn't that egocentric, that self-discipline?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is, but-- definitely it is egocentric, but we have to use that stepping stone to begin with ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Doesn't that differ from responding to a situation set up by a teacher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean teacher may be egoless, but your version of the teacher could be still according to your ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: No, but what I mean in one case you're responding to a situation and in the other case you creating a situation that you want to respond to.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: I don't see how the two can be equivalent.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems the same thing because once you view as it is and your-- you have fixed idea, it doesn't matter whether you be-- your situation be created by somebody or either created by you, it seem to be same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Like for example if you, say, meditate.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Saying and on a basis of my accepting a teaching relationship, I can sit down and meditate and let it go at that, is that I'm fulfilling my commitment, the relationship, something like that. But if I tell myself to meditate it seems different. So without a teacher, that I'm, you know, giving myself orders, trying to create the situation of responding to what's there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems-- all seems to be same. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Then you don't need a teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean you might need a teacher to instigate the whole thing and teach you how to sit and meditate or how to relate with the life situation as dharma, but you don't have to have a teacher to train you everyday what to do.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But when you go wrong -- can't you go wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: No, not to tell you what to do, but to create a-- to-- doesn't a teacher free a student of a need to create situations that are come from the lineage? To-- without a teacher you're trying to create a Buddhist influence on yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well you have to have -- from that point of view, you have to have the, in fact, inspiration of meditating, which is also a result of having had teacher. That you're on a-- on the basis on some valid thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: So what's the difference between being in a place like this with someone like you speaking to us, and being in a place like the middle of New York City, so far as being taught by the existing situation? Seems there's a difference.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=5249.0,5487.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: You say there's a tendency for a lot of students to just want to be around someone who is very advanced spiritually, rather than taking the essence of what he's saying and saying \"okay, I want to become him,\" and they just hang around. Isn't that what we're talking about? Isn't that the problem that we're talking about here? I think a lot of people are saying, \"Well the teacher is going to protect me and save me,\" but really it's me that I'm going to save, he's just making me aware, me and my-- his presence. I'm becoming more aware of me, but it has to come from me.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be part two of talk number one, seminar on Passion and Aggression, October 9th.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose whole point is that how sort of you view the learning process, whether you view the learning process as a verbal one or whether you view the learning process as environmental. I mean like in the case of Buddha for instance, that Heart Sutra for instance, is he create situation; so the basic dialogue is consist of his disciples’ words, Shariputra and Avalokiteshvara, but it is regarded as Buddha's teaching because he created the situation around it. And finally at the end he says \"Well said, well said.\" That's what he said. 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If you followed the eightfold path and the stages, like the monkey imitating.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see there are seem to be that you would like to -- there also another situations, different types, of that limitation of that imitation that we been talking about. I mean in certain cases you can't do that, but on the other hand in certain cases that if you are terribly sick, by imitating somebody that's extremely well, it doesn't cure you particularly but we have to get a treatment from the doctor. Which is to say that whatever things you are doing, one's basic discipline or eightfold path practice had to be based on the working on the ego. That seem to be the very essential thing. So that your imitation or your attempt to put yourself in a particular framework or pattern becomes the absolute one and there's no-- you will not be led astray anyway at all. So that seem to be the basic thing that if anything-- everything is related with ego and ego's desire and transcending ego, that seem to be the guideline.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Yes. This is -- I think I see that this is the basis, but as helpful aids on the path wouldn't it be an aid to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure it is, yeah I mean that's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --to practice the virtues, to practice what is to be [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well practicing virtue doesn't mean purely aid, but it's main thing. You have to-- you can't behave truthfully, but you have to be true. So that's depends on how much whole thing is absolute.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Right, I just trying to-- like to go back to the example. Like the monkey can't *be* enlightened. He has to behave like the enlightened man first, doesn't he? He isn't-- I mean he can't--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: He has to--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: --so there is a definite-- like you can't just go-- it seems that you can't just be effortless and that your-- and assume, \"Well I'm already enlightened.\" There has to be a direction towards that, there has to be an effort.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean the idea of effortless that we be talking about, it doesn't mean to say that effortless in terms of let go, let ego takes you over, do anything you like. But it's-- effort is ego's basic character, so effortless is very painful thing to do. It's boycotting ego which is very difficult to do, it's highest discipline of all. And any kind of practices are built along with that is going-- bound to be a painful discipline, but one have to go through that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=5593.0,5858.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21:[INAUDIBLE] in the matter of right action, and to know whether one is acting right now as one has opened to him the strategy that \"it is His will.\" You know, \"I'm not doing anything -- I'm witnessing it. It is His will.\" However it's not that convincing; one still feels one is somehow participating in this. And what strategy remains? One searches oneself for purity, and I don't know what. And I had almost a savage confrontation of this sort yesterday, and I have to fit it into my thing. I'm not satisfied saying \"it is His will, I was acting on His will,\" nor am I satisfied that I was doing it, you know, totally purely against ego. Which leaves me-- what are the strategies, or is this the pain that I have to go through? What strategies do I have or does anyone have, or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: I'm confronted with the wisdom with the-- what one is about to do or has already done. The only real thing is to say, \"it is His will\" and try to forget about it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean you are referring to somebody else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: No, \"His will\" being in terms of a personal God who is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: --knowing all and you are somehow the victim of it more than anything really.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: You're trying to de-victimize yourself by becoming detached. This is one approach that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: --I think is widespread in these-- \"it is maya, you are the victim of maya,\" you must detach and somehow or other get out.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that you have to have sort of a sense of independence and sense of intelligence. That whatever situations you are dealing with, that you have the choice in a sense. And the natural force or cosmic force, what you like to call it, is there, you're a part of it so to speak. So one has choice before one does anything. One have to be considerate and intelligent with all the situations, healthy and unhealthy situations, and then one step onto it, if you're able to relate with the situations completely, properly. It seems to be that whole thing is based on your own attitude to the things which governs you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=5858.0,6072.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60929/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We should stop there.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=10.0,13.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60930/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is Talk One,\ngiven on October 9th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=14.21,18.67"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60930/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI auto-remaster\nmade October 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effect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=79.55,85.99"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60930/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So seems that talking doesn't\nseem to be too important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151#t=87.27,92.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/110417/file/212151/transcript/60930/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On the subject we are--\nof the seminar\nis passion and 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