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Describes Marpa's life and personality. Problem of Milarepa trying to be \"good\" with Marpa, hiding his neurosis. Marpa offers to either support Mila in his life or give him teachings; Milarepa chooses latter. First challenge is to build a tower; Mila ends up making five and Marpa rejects all. By fifth, Mila decides to kill himself, and only then Marpa invites him to receive teachings. Milarepa's early training, as basic Buddhism. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] asks about mindfulness in context of trying to maintain facade. [Q6] How to work with self-deception if you don't interact with a teacher regularly.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Milarepa"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: MILAREPA: LESSONS FROM THE LIFE AND SONGS OF TIBET'S GREAT YOGI:\u003cbr\u003eChapter 6. Milarepa’s Genuineness and Honesty (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 7. Encountering Marpa (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 8. Marpa’s Construction Projects (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003eChapter 9. Destroying Materialism (excerpts)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/milarepa-3865.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eAug 29 2023 to Feb 17 2026 Transcribing: Eirikur Baldursson Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Ella Milligan Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1976"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eClarifies the kind of honesty that Milerepa had, including in looking for a teacher, Marpa. Describes Marpa's life and personality. Problem of Milarepa trying to be \"good\" with Marpa, hiding his neurosis. Marpa offers to either support Mila in his life or give him teachings; Milarepa chooses latter. First challenge is to build a tower; Mila ends up making five and Marpa rejects all. By fifth, Mila decides to kill himself, and only then Marpa invites him to receive teachings. Milarepa's early training, as basic Buddhism. In Q\u0026amp;A, [Q4] asks about mindfulness in context of trying to maintain facade. [Q6] How to work with self-deception if you don't interact with a teacher regularly.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Seminar entitled Milarepa: [His] Life and Example, held at Karme Choling in Vermont. This is talk number two, January 2nd, 1976. This is an ARP digital remaster made August 2007.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This is an ITS given at Karme Choling, Milarepa: His Life and Example. This is talk number two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to discuss after following last night's discussion when we discussed the notion of honesty. The interesting point there is: somehow the notion of honesty comes with a challenge. That we usually think if we're honest, and perfectly good boys and good girls, that we can always pass through whatever we want. If you say \"I am good. Please be kind to me. I'm not trying to cheat anybody. I have been very nice person the rest of my life. And please help me. It's worth of helping me because I never cheat anybody, I never kill a fly.\" That seem to be starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=32.0,151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could be so good, and so perfect, and so wonderful, but still that doesn't mean to say that your training is completely over. Your training is just about to begin at that point. Usually we think the honesty goes with the cleanliness, [laughter] which goes long way, next to the godliness. But however, honesty doesn't mean anything great deal. It simply means that you have a rather reasonable foundation. If you're completely honesty-- honest, or if you're completely pure and clean, even that is very suspicious, at the same time. Possibilities of being naive, possibilities of having blind spots. That your honesty carries out too far away, doesn't have enough room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=151.0,273.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As far as Milarepa's honesty is concerned, it continued. That his honesty and his genuineness in searching what he want to do, achieving everything what he wanted to achieve. He then in turn try to seek teacher, in his honest way, very naive way. And he looks for teacher, master. Searching for all kinds of people -- we don't have to go through the details of the story particularly. Searching for all kinds of people, and finally he found Marpa who is a teacher of the Kagyu tradition and a very learned man. Hot-tempered person. Basically, upper-middle-class ranch-owner, so to speak. Very scholarly. Having taken several trips to India, that he's quite renowned in the Tibetan Buddhist world. And he's very mean, unkind. And he's excessively warm. And he could emanate immense, hearty, loving warmth in family style to anybody who studied with him. But Milarepa wasn't getting those hearty warmth from Marpa at the time, because he's so honest, so true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=273.0,427.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when the truth becomes that kind of behavior of true, trueness, truthness, truthfulness, begin to become completely cleaned and washed and polished, a stainless steel globe. Not even a speck of grease can land on it, not even a spot of water will sit on it. And it's becoming too tough and too good, too pure somehow. There's no room to relate with anything that's fundamental and really realistic. In other word, there's no sympathetic chemistry of fundamental neurosis was showing through, so therefore the teachings, like being medicine, can administer onto the particular sickness. So there's no mutual sympathetic relationships involved. But nevertheless, underneath of Milarepa's diligence, industrious, and accomplishment there is a great deal of neurosis underneath that, immense lot -- extraordinary lot. So Marpa is being extraordinarily skillful person, powerful person, insightful man. And he decide to cultivate Mila, realizing that Mila has a lot of potentialities if he could *come through* more garbage, beyond facade of superficial purity, toughness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=427.0,567.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Such honest and pure and well-thought plans that existed in Milarepa's life. And he approaches Marpa by saying, \"I am a great sinner from the Western Tibet. And I seek teaching from you. And I would like to offer my whole being as gift to you. I would like to receive teachings from you.\" And Marpa, being extraordinarily scrupulous and good businessman dealing with people like that who brings interesting bargains [laughter] -- which is seemingly very, very tempting. If somebody offers you [their] life and receive teachings, there's nothing wrong with it. But there's lot of things wrong with that. And that life is regarded-- offered as a pawn, so when you get the teachings received, that pawn is being drawn back. And you take your own pawn and you go back and you achieve what you want to achieve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=567.0,647.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So whole thing becomes very advantageous to the person who want to study. Because actually, virtually, that unless you are animal, dog or cat or something, human beings can't offer themselves as gift -- particularly if they want something from you, saying \"I would like to give myself up and learn from you.\" It doesn't quite work that way. Human beings are not really animals. And as far as Milarepa's approach is concerned, that's very clever. He doesn't have to actually sacrifice anything, he just give himself. And in return he'll get anything he wants. It's good bargain. It's kind of a very cunning barter exchange which doesn't mean very much. It's purely tokenism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=647.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marpa says to him, \"I can't do both. Either you seek teaching from me and find your livelihood somewhere else; or else I'll give you a livelihood, food, and shelter, and you seek teachings from elsewhere.\" That's where the line is being drawn, which is fantastic master stroke. As far as Marpa is concerned, he wasn't caught in that particular trap anymore, and he was a greater businessman than Milarepa at the time, at that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=733.0,781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that twisted Mila's mind. He had to think twice. And he has to make a choice whether Marpa will be good host to accommodate him while seeking teaching from elsewhere, or whether Marpa would be great teacher while seeking food and shelter elsewhere. Since he has already made up his mind -- that he has to make up his mind, on the spot -- by saying that, \"I don't want to seek food and shelter from you, but I want to seek teaching from you.\" Which was good choice. [Laughter] Quite possibly, otherwise, that Marpa would like to charge his lodging and boarding as well if his hearts-- heart of hearts is somewhere else. At the time Marpa was not particularly in setting up a hotel or live-in motel situation anyway; he wasn't interested in that kind of business. He was more interested in teaching, setting that kind of business, which is much purer and cleaner, more realistic, more profitable for generations and generations to come. So, Mila has to go out and beg from local devotees of Marpa's and trying to get supplies of food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=781.0,901.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And first, traditional style is to bring a gift in order to receive teaching. He looked for the gift. Not finding anything, he gets lots of barley grain. And he barter, exchange them to a copper vessel, nice copper cauldron, with four handles, nicely made. And bring that copper vessel back, and visit Marpa by saying, \"This is my gift, token of gift. And I would like to receive teachings from you, seek food and shelter elsewhere.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=901.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marpa was very amused. At the same time there's something very strange about the symbolism exist there, was that Milarepa did not present his gift of copper vessel in a proper fashion, and presented it as entirely empty and clean inside. And Marpa sticks-- Marpa beats with a stick the-- of the copper, and the sound rings. And he says, \"Oh,\" he says, \"it's nice ring and it's pure copper and it's good gift. But you haven't put anything inside. Our future generations of lineage is going to be very hard up. [Laughter] You're not going to be wealthy generation. Anyway, your gift was good.\" That tradition still [laughing] continues [laughter] up to now: we manage but we're still hard up. The copper vessel may be nice and fantastic, but still it's empty inside. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=945.0,1053.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that since Milarepa made right choice of receiving teaching from Marpa, and seeking food and shelter elsewhere, then Marpa thinks twice. And he would say that, \"You don't have to look for food and shelter elsewhere if you work for me, free of charge, as voluntary basis. If you could build me a castle, a tower, that you'll be accommodated and you'll be fed.\" So that he continues to build this castle that Marpa has designed. And the first one that he built is a round-shaped castle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1053.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is traditional in Tibet those days. If you have a big spread, big ranch, big establishment, that you have to have a tower. You can watch your herds of animals, and you can watch your fields. And also you can watch for enemies' invasion from distance. And the taller the tower is, better conquering the territory. Depends on your territory is how big.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1137.0,1188.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Marpa orders Milarepa that he has to build nine-story tower, which is gigantic, enormous. And he begin to start to build. And having accomplished the whole complete task, Marpa gets very uptight by saying, \"I did not design this. I didn't think this way. You have to dismantle the whole thing. And moreover you spoiled my landscape. You took-- you dug stones out of my ground and dig trenches around my castle. So you have to put everything back where you dug from.\" Well he's com-- he did that. He says, \"I would like you to build another shape.\" And it goes another shape. After that, it goes same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1188.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally the fourth one, which is a triangle castle that he has to build, and Milarepa continues to begin to build. At that point Marpa gets very angry, \"And since you are a black magician already, you might be trying to kill me in your-- in the powerful black magician [way], since you build this triangle tower, which is terribly outrageous, terrible, unheard of. And I'm going to kick you out completely. You can't even receive your teachings.\" He got extremely upset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1264.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so does Marpa's wife, Dagmema, felt terribly maternal about the whole thing. That Marpa's students usually cared about her. And she felt terrible. She thought, \"This time, actually my husband gone wild. And it's absolutely terrible to behave to this such beautiful, diligent, tough student, who's very nice. And he's doing everything what he tells you to do. But he still doesn't receive any teachings.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1326.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And again, Milarepa was ordered to build a tower and he begin to build a nine-story tower. The finally nine-story tower, which is square in shape. It is still actually standing in Tibet, and-- hopefully, these days. And we do have some photographs of those things if you thought that was purely mythical story. Having built the last, fifth tower, still, Marpa was very uptight with Milarepa and refused to give teachings. And Milarepa thought that, \"Finally I have accomplished everything what he asked me to do. At this point, maybe this means that I am completely unworthy in receiving any teachings at all. That maybe I should kill myself so I could be reborn as a more purified, worthy student to study with Marpa.\" As such thought has occurred to him, Marpa begin to send messengers to ask him to come over and receive teachings from him. That he's begin to included in the learning the vajrayana teachings and practice of all these things, starting from the basic Buddhism to mahayana *and* vajrayana at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1374.0,1527.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that such test seem to be necessary, at this point. If there's not any test in a person's honesty, and more disappointment, one after another -- without those things there's possibilities of a person getting too much royal treatment, too much hospitality. That person begin to relax. And in the process of relaxation, and the persons begin to lose the essentials, or the main point of the teaching. It's very interesting point. That somehow, as we discussed already, pure, sheer honesty and directness doesn't work. That one's enlightened mind has to be burned, beaten, shaped like pure gold -- otherwise it doesn't work. And that seem to be the basic idea of practice of meditation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1527.0,1625.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Milarepa's early training was not so much of fantastic tantric practices of any kind, necessarily. Just basic Buddhism, basic understanding of Buddhism. Fundamental basics of it, and still able to understand them, and able to practice them, of sitting practice of meditation. Which usually brings out a certain point of hidden neurosis on the surface so you can go through the-- beyond the facade of a well-polished and well-manifested surface, and able to actually feel and actually able to understand them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1625.0,1679.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have, seem to be, have very complicated style. Usually that we seem to have, is that we think that we are practicing spirituality; at the same time that we are deceiving ourselves constantly. Or else that we think we are *not* deceiving ourselves, we are practicing complete spirituality free from spiritual materialism; on the other hand still providing and coming through like well-polished, stainless-steel globe, without dent. And *so* sophisticated, and so good, but it's rotten underneath, nevertheless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1679.0,1725.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Without going through some kind of training, some kind of churning through, beaten down, and re-- well, reprocessed all over again, without those things that nothing would work. Nothing would actually happen. So it's interestingly, that seem to be the teachings of Kagyu lineage, is to open possibilities, but still cut through the fundamental deceptions, at the same time. This particular tradition of handling students that way is not only Marpa alone. It continues with the previous lineage, previous generation of Naropa and Tilopa, and so forth, beyond that as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1725.0,1841.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Traditional analogy is that a person is like wild and tame-- wild and *fertile*, rather than tame, ground, which is chosen as a good site. And you plow through it by the means of the teachings and the teacher's method. You plow the field, back and forth, at the same time you spread the seeds over it. And then you put more manure over the field. And again, could plow the second time so the manure and seed could be mixed properly on that ground and finally proper seed is sown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1841.0,1901.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People talk about \"satori\" experience or \"sudden enlightenment.\" It is not so much of that people should get suddenly-- somebody-- something should be clicked, therefore everything go *boom* and there you are, living buddha, on the spot. [Laughter]. But satori experience comes very gradually. As gradual process goes and they begin to grow up, the seed becomes shoot, shoot becomes-- become spikelets of grain. And then, when the grain is begin to get harvest, there comes satori experience, which is finally harvest. And the grain begin to flourish, on the spot. So, from that point of view the sudden and gradual are both-- are united one situation, is this particular point.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, you're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1901.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When Milarepa first met Marpa, he plowed Marpa's field and drank the offering of beer that Marpa gave to him. And Marpa later said that this signified that Milarepa would be a good vessel for the teachings. In other words, he would be able to imbibe the teachings as he drank all the beer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And you also mentioned that in Milrarepa's offerings to Marpa, that there was something in his-- in the way he was presenting the things that he did to Marpa that couldn't-- that wasn't quite right. And I was just wondering, was it that Marpa put Milarepa through all of these things in accordance to the way Milarepa was reacting to the situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Or did he have sort of a grander plan for the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so. Well you-- so the interesting point is that that seem to be usually what we do here in Karme Choling, is that somebody comes along, and very interested in practicing meditation, and watch them sweep the floor, wash up the dishes. Which is the same kind of process that we go-- that Milarepa has gone through, is that how this particular person can plow the fields and can drink that chang. It doesn't-- you don't need too many credentials of how many scenes that you've gone through, how many trips that you've gone through, how many books that you've read. But how you handle yourself on the spot. And the student arrives here: \"Sure, can you wash this dish-- these dish,\" or \"clear out the pathway, shovel the snow,\" or \"dig in the garden.\" That speaks by itself automatically.\r\n\r\n\r\nParticularly when a physical task is involved, dealing with inanimate object, things become much more powerful and self-revealing. Whereas if you're dealing with an animal object, like talking to person -- some good, fantastic, good salesman can talk somebody into that, giving the secret teachings. If Marpa would be completely helpless, maybe, if some greater salesman come along and tell him that how he’s fantastical, he should receive teachings, it would be great benefit for the rest of humanity, and for his benefit of his lineage. But Marpa wouldn't do that. He would make him milk the cow, plow the field -- something very simple and direct. And that's somewhat the same tradition of what we do here too, and has become an established tradition actually. That just watch how you do it, clean the bathrooms, wash the cloth, you know, clothes. Whatever you do -- cut the onions. [Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=1996.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I'm confused now about the value of honesty. You said yesterday it was Milarepa's honesty that enabled him to achieve everything he strived for. But now tonight, you said that his honesty was like a false facade and that it was problematic.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So, how should we approach honesty then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it’s one thing at the time. That dawn is good until sunrise. The blank canvas is good until you begin to paint on it. So, you start with honesty. That's good, as it goes, but then it become something else. That honesty shouldn't be regarded as a passport to heaven, in other word. Honest could become a chauvinistic thing. And I heard people saying that, \"I've been all good my life, how this could come to me?\" You know, people lost faith in heaven -- whatever that is. So, good at one point makes further good if you don't stick with that previous goodness, per se. In order to make tea you can't just drink cold water because cold water is such good thing to boil. If you have to boil the cold water into hot water, then you have to put tea in it and have to drink it up. So it goes through a process. That raw material is fantastic if it’s *good* raw material. Then you make something else out of that. So, that seem to be the general process. [Laughs] It's, you know, process, rather than fundamental scheme. Good at the first, good at the beginning, is good at the beginning. Good in the middle is good in the middle. Good in last is good in last. So everything comes through a process. On the other hand, the goodness last couldn't come from if there wasn't goodness in the beginning either. But that doesn't mean to say that you have to be chauvinistic of the good at the beginning, particularly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: So one could be honest and then not cling to that later?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. That could be hang-up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=2257.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is honesty a kind of aggressiveness which makes further developments possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possible, did you say? Somewhat, but at the same time it's very tricky. It could be obstacle. The part of the exertion, maybe it will go through. But part of the ideal achievement, it wouldn't work. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=2430.0,2482.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could you say a little bit more about the smooth facade that's covering the neurosis undernea-- that desire to-- that-- to say more about that and mindfulness? Because sometimes it's a fine distinction. One could be mindful of the neurosis and not want to lay a trip out on somebody else, and yet even that would be creating a pious facade, at the same time. Or does it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not quite getting-- can you say it once more, if you don't mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You talked about a smooth facade that-- of being so good and so honest. And that being that way, the neurosis that's really underneath that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --doesn't come out so that can be-- it can be dealt with, with the teacher, or with other people, say.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: What I'm wondering about is how mindfulness plays a part in all of that? Because the student could have some level of mindfulness perhaps, and be aware of the neurosis also, and be projecting that smooth facade unwittingly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think interesting point there is the mindfulness is not so much of a caution, as though one shouldn't make any mistakes, should cover over your smoothness. But mindfulness is to see through your trips, so to speak, your neurosis that operating on the spot. So once that mindfulness operating on the spot. And that's why traditionally we have labeling everything as thought: \"thought\" rather than \"good thought\" or \"bad thought\". Just simply thinking process taking place all the time. So you begin to see through that process. And somehow that fundamental mindfulness is not so much of trying to be good, good all the time, be careful all the time. So mindfulness, this case, doesn't mean, you know, trying to avoid be bad, trying to be good, \"Be good, be good, be good.\" But mindfulness simply look out: \"That is it. That's it. That's it. That's it. You're thinking. You're thinking.\" Precisely, without any overlay of preconceptions of trying to be religious particularly. When that's begin to take place, then you begin to develop seeing through process taking place on the-- at the same time. So it begin to become very functional, very workable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=2482.0,2691.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you ask a question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: It seemed as if Milarepa had a great deal of faith in his buddha mind, and that was part of what carried him through all the adversity he went through. And it seems as if that's sort of the counterpart, or the other side of the coin, to always being mindful of the deception. That there’s-- it needs to be balanced somewhat with a faith in your own true nature, and that you can overcompensate one way or the other. And I was wondering if you would say something about that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do you have trust in your true nature?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Yes. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You do? My goodness. [Laughter] Well that's questionable, shall we say, at the same time. I think one of the problems there is that Milarepa's understanding and appreciation of his true nature is interrupted a lot. If he had a complete trust and faith in the true nature all the time, that he could become completely impenetrable, that even Marpa couldn't get through. That sore on his back is-- couldn't be hurt. That because he's flickering, all the time, so much what we see is teaching, but at the same time afraid and constantly trying to give up. Which is his wife-- Marpa's wife, Dagmema, play very important. She played a role of hope. And Marpa played a role of hopelessness, of fear. So between the two couple they did a good job on Milarepa.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut at the same time, as far as Milarepa is concerned, it's torturous. If the both wife and the husband were consistent, that we could get something through, which is not possible actually since the wife and husband played alternating roles. And she's been hopeful, so she-- Milarepa would find that his faith begin to wane because his faith is all hope. \"Now that I don't be so hopeful, that I could open myself, relax. Maybe this time I am going to get to receive the teachings.\" And on the other hand, that Marpa is being so unkind and cutting, and Dagmema is being so kind and encouraging, so he can't completely give up and he can't completely commit suicide.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo the interesting thing about inspiration of the innate nature, one's innate nature or the buddha mind, is can be only nurtured by fluctuations and, at the same time, disappointment of all kinds, you know. Fluctuations as well as continuity at the same time. So you need both of that in order to see something through properly. It's like moment that you going to live, and somebody's going to give you award, golden star, and moment that you going to be executed on the spot as being the most terrible criminals in the whole world. And those two things is very powerful, fantastic. That's what actually continues the true nature. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=2691.0,2962.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anybody in this quarter? One last one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Seems like self-deception and dealing with self-deception is a very tricky business. And that it seems like it was important to Milarepa was the fact that he had a very close relationship with Marpa. I'm wondering how one deals with self-deception when-- in day-to-day way, when you don't have a close relationship with the teacher? You know, it's months before you come back to workshops. You don't live at Karme Choling.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's still the same thing continues. As you begin know what is all about, you begin to have same kind of relationship taking place within yourself. It's same thing, somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Could you say some more? How?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems to be same thing, because on the basis of your own understanding, that self-deception doesn't go far away. And you can't have longshot plans of coming out of that. And that that sort of distrust in the self-deception, already. And at the same time that you are alone, you are not supported by any members of sangha. If you're individual alone, that you are on your own, and you begin to wonder that you have no reference point to make to. Which makes much more insecure, which plays as much as important role as absence of teacher is-- as much as to presence of the teacher. So from that point of view, the absence of teacher is same as the presence of teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=2962.0,3116.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In terms of how that naive honesty gets broken through, is that exposed by that process of hope and fear becoming more and more evident in that situation? You're talking about the alternation between gold star and execution on the spot, going back and forth, in relation to the relationship with--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something like that. Something like that. [Laughs] Yeah, I think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=3116.0,3175.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: While Milarepa was building the towers, did he also have time to sit? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not very much. [Laughter] Not very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --his sitting practice started later, or?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: His sitting practice started later?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sitting practice started later, because he was, to begin with-- you see the whole story is that Marpa wouldn't instruct him in anything, at all, just make him work. So he's just treated as a slave at the beginning. He did practice something like six months or several years until Marpa's trip to India was accomplished. That Marpa-- Milarepa was able to sit in a cave above Marpa's castle. And sitting practice continued then. Because the interesting point is that if Marpa begin to instruct Milarepa on the *slightest* of the teaching situations at that point, and Milarepa is going to work hard on it, so much, he's going to get everything through. And all the, you know, sitting practices requirements going to get through. That he's going to be suspended as monster. So that was a fear that Marpa had. He would not give anything at all, just make him work, that point, and make him sit later. Which he also did completely, and then he got what he actually wanted, at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But we always start with sitting now.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think at this point is that Americans are very soft. And they should be encouraged at the beginning [laughter] -- and then give them bad time. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And some kind of-- that without any faint hope, it doesn't work. And in Milarepa's case it's more desperate and more difficult. And Milarepa was already hooked on the basis of tradition, base of national culture, base of his own bad experience. That Milarepa has no choice. That he doesn't have a choice to go to the EST [Erhard Seminars Training] [laughter] or the yogis, IYI, [Integral Yoga Institute] or take the Silva Mind Training Control. There's no choice. I'm sure if there was a choice Milarepa would have gone to all of those. [Laughter] And he'd achieved the highest result of all of those at the same time. So this point, because so much market here is involved, that we have to control our would-be inspired people at one point, and inspire them enough, *then* give them hard time. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=3175.0,3395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Speaking of EST, Werner Erhard--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Werner Erhard says that comparative-- comparison is a pitfall to raising the consciousness. And my question is, am I in the wrong place?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Compared to what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Comparison. You speak of mindfulness leading to carefulness. And I could understand carefulness to be sort of thinking more-- through meditation, understanding the nature of the ego. But is carefulness also-- doesn’t it also lead to comparing ourselves to one another and saying, \"Oh this person is doing it this way so maybe this way is better. And this other person is doing it that way...\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see the interesting point is when you begin to practice of your technique, how simple it may be, there's no comparisons involved, there's no room for intellectualizing. You're being forced, cornered into so much of your own practice, of your having thought process, your having irritation of body. And you have all kinds of psychosomatic visions begin to occur. So there's no room for comparison actually. It's very simple. That you be cornered. But as far as the EST are concerned, as I understand, is very interesting one. And it's based on a group-thought direction process. Which is somewhat different than what we're doing here, which is... everything is left to individuals to practice and have their own thought process. But we don't direct their thought process. I mean we don't have a section on sexual fantasy part, or section on aggression fantasy part in meditation. Nobody's directed or guided to see through their neurosis. That would be-- seem to be too corny, as far as we're concerned. [Laugher]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=3395.0,3554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91419/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seem to be interesting time to stop at this point actually. It's one o'clock. [Laughter] So, hopefully you have a good time to sleep and rest. And tomorrow is a nyinthun. Is that the case? Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, I would like to encourage every one of you to sit. And some of you have never sat before, maybe, quite possibly. That's not big deal. A lot of people haven't sat, sometimes, even one minute. And they begin to sit and practice a whole dathun, which is one-month-long training period, entire sitting practice. And they go through that, and they actually able to do so. And they begin to make friends with themselves enormously, begin to trust themself they can do so. So this case, just purely, not even the whole day, but just few hours of the whole day. [Laughter] I think you can do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd so please don't chicken out. It would be terrible if you do so. It doesn't work. It doesn't help what we’re trying to talk about, what we're trying to discuss, trying to understand. And you're throwing everything in the-- down the drain. So please don't chicken out. You can sit and you can practice. And just try with the group effort, which is usually very helpful. If there is numerous people sitting, practicing, are going along with you, you can march along with them. And you can do so, and which is very important, powerful. Which is also directed towards the newcomers as well as the oldcomers, who probably have a very naive approach by saying, that, \"Now I'm okay, I done those things already, and I can just schmooze around any elsewhere.\" [Laughter] And somehow that doesn't work either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, please pay attention and heed, and trying to help us to clean this psychological atmosphere that we have created, so-called ITS. That we don't want to be polluted and create further pollution in the world. And the world has enough pollutions already. That if you don't sit, you're creating further pollutions. Even though that what you heard, what you hear, what you understand, may be viable, and maybe it’s makes perfect sense, but sense is different than reality. That we have to let out some of the agitations and neurosis and letting go notion of want to be free, excessively, or want of-- afraid of imprisonment, excessively. And all those process had to be worked through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo sitting practice of tomorrow is part of our program, part of our good intention that we could create-- some kind of ventilation could be created. And please take part in that, which is very important and means a lot to us, on behalf of the community and myself, at the same time. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=3554.0,3768.37219"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19760102VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=0.47,4.14"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seminar entitled Milarepa:\n[His] Life and Example,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=4.14,6.84"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Karme\nCholing in Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=6.84,8.94"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number two,\nJanuary 2nd, 1976.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780#t=8.94,14.03"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/166989/file/303780/transcript/91420/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital\nremaster made August 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