{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/j96057fm8p/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1971-12-28: The Six States of Being: Talk 3: The Jealous God Realm"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1971-12-28"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Audio"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Karme Choling, Barnet, Vermont, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/537/show\"\u003eSix States of Being\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 3: The Jealous God Realm"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Vajrayana and Tantra","Death and Dying"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eEach realm contains six types of bardo experiences. Jealous god, or asura realm associated with the feeling of being cheated and constant comparison. Also involves a paranoid speediness to compete with others perceived as opponents. Another characteristic of this realm is a lack of communication and warmth. All realms exist within us as neurotic qualities; they manifest when we experience bewilderment and uncertainty and try to maintain ego. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Myth of Freedom","BOOK: Sanity We Are Born With","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 03","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part 2, Chapter 3: The Jealous God Realm\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE MYTH OF FREEDOM: Part 2: Styles of Imprisonment: Paranoia\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-myth-of-freedom-and-the-way-of-meditation-1073.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: THE SANITY WE ARE BORN WITH: Part 2: Mind: Chapter 12: The Six Realms: Paranoia\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-sanity-we-are-born-with-1298.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 3 (in contained book THE MYTH OF FREEDOM)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-384.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eJul 24 2023 to Feb 27 2024 Transcribing: Julia McKaig Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eEach realm contains six types of bardo experiences. Jealous god, or asura realm associated with the feeling of being cheated and constant comparison. Also involves a paranoid speediness to compete with others perceived as opponents. Another characteristic of this realm is a lack of communication and warmth. All realms exist within us as neurotic qualities; they manifest when we experience bewilderment and uncertainty and try to maintain ego.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/025/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730820882","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1730820862_19711228VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":4769.64569,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/256/025/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1730820882","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/256/025/original/1730820862_19711228VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1730820865","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":4769.64569,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19711228VCTR1-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19711228VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - The Six States of Being - Talk 3]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled The Six Realms[ed: States] of Being, given in Barnet, Vermont. This is talk three, \"The Asura Realm,\" given on December 28th, 1971. This is a CTI custom remaster, made July, 2023.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: [Jeremy Hayward] Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Six Realms of Being, held at Tail of the Tiger, in December 1971. Third Talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=0.0,48.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems the realm of the gods provides a background of different types of experiences, in terms of meditative absorption, and also materialistic absorption, in terms of world of sensual pleasure. Which seems to be the-- one of the basic key points to work through the six realms of world. And they are what's known as the \"six states of bardo,\" also related with the six realms of world. Six types of bardo experiences are: bardo of birth; and bardo of death; and also that of existence-- bardo of existence; and bardo of clear light experience; and bardo of meditative state; and also bardo of dream-like quality of experiences, as well. So those six types of bardo experience could be seen as in conjunction with the six realms of world. In other word, almost we could say that each realm that we are in always has the quality of the other six types of bardo experience. There is the birth quality and the death quality, the meditative absorption quality. And also there is the clear light quality, and dream-like quality, and the quality of the dharmata, which is also kind of sense of space as well in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=48.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So each realm contains these six types of bardo experiences. In other word, the six realms of different being -- like hungry ghost, or human being, or whatever's may be -- they are the background experience. And within that background, there is also a natural situation; the qualities of that background consist of six types of experiences. If you are in the realm of gods, you could have an experience of dream-like, or meditative absorption-like situation, or other situations like that. So six types of bardo experience are connected with six realms of world very closely. And also, on the other hand, that we could relate with each realm contains each type of bardo, and it could work that way, but seem to be at this point too complicated, so many figures involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=305.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The bardo of asura, what is called \"asura\" in Sanskrit, which means-- literally means \"non-god.\" \"A\" is negative, \"sura\" is god, so \"non-gods\" -- the realm of non-god. Or it is could be said also jealous god realm. Is that quite unlikely situation, is that having had meditative absorption into the realm of gods, a sudden disappointment brings about-- comes about. And that disappointment of that you be cheated; \"this is not permanent experience at all.\" Therefore you turn around, your experience turns around completely, and sudden envy begin to develop, jealousy begin to develop. That you haven't given the full truth, and you haven't given the-- or you haven't understood the ultimate freedom: which you thought what you have achieved is ultimate freedom, of spiritual absorption.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=389.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Losing faith brings a tremendous sharp situation of relativity, comparative notion: \"Is that is so, why not this is so?\" Which is kind of a schizophreniac experience. That often the schizophreniacs are very intelligent. If you're trying to help them, work with them, then automatically they interpret your intention is to lay heavy trips on them, which you don't want to be helped. But if you decide to not help, then automatically that you are-- you are seeking comfort, but you don't want to work with that either. Or if you're trying to present alternatives, then automatically their reaction is that you are trying to play games with them. Which is true. It's very intelligent state of mind. But at the same time such split mind is so powerful, that sees all the corners, every corners. You think you are communicating to them face-to-face, but in actual fact they are looking from behind your back. That's kind of asura-type mentality, of extreme paranoia, extreme efficiency, and accuracy, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=491.0,607.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That actually is what's a Tibetan word called \"tragdok\", means \"jealous\". If we interpret that word \"tragdok\" in etymologically, \"trag\" is \"shoulder\", \"dok\" means \"crowded\", so \"overcrowdedly\" selfish. Or in other word, too much shoulder, to get through traffic so to speak. It's kind of a defensive form of pride.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=607.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And asura realm, realm of jealous gods, also associated with the wind. It has the sort of karma quality of speeding, and achieving everything, trying to achieve everything on the spot. And trying to make sure that your experience are valid, and there's nobody going to attack you in that kind of situations. So the bardo experience that way, we get that state is too much comparative state of comparing, too much comparative work. In other word extremely paranoid; trying to save yourself, trying to attain something higher and greater, constantly. In order to try and attain something higher and greater. The conclusion from the jealous gods point of view is, if you watch for every possible pitfalls, then you'll be saved. That's the only way to save. So it does it, it comes to that conclusion, it does that to put into action. So, even if you don't have a chance to get ready and prepare and put your action into practice, it just does it, without preparation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=659.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trying to also develops sort of spontaneity of its kind. And feels quite free to do that, and too much comparative. In other word, asura realm contains lot of element of game-like quality of living situation. That whole thing is regarded as purely game. A game in the sense of opponent and yourself; that you are constantly dealing with \"those\", and \"me\", \"me and the world, rest of the world\", \"me and my friends,\" \"me and often myself.\" That kind of a build-up of too much comparative. To begin with somehow you have to train yourself to be such ambitious person, at the beginning, of course. But then certain stage, that kind of training becomes part of your character, so you don't have to train yourself to do it but it just naturally happens. Sort of born jealous person, as though a part of one's instinct. Because in one's state of being there is also the quality of-- there’s the quality of wind or air, in everybody's being; there is the quality of speed in everyone's characteristics. And asura quality is the magnifying that particular quality. That all the corners been regarded as suspicious, or threatening situation, therefore must look into it and must be careful about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=766.0,906.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow asura realm does not quite relate with-- is not quite related with in terms of hiding oneself, in terms of camouflage, at all. It's very direct, and very willing to come out in the open and willing to fight. If there is a problem, or if there is situation of a plot, seemingly plot involved against you, you just come out and fight on face, trying to expose that plot. Which is kind of a schizophreniac quality, of coming out into the open, and facing the situation, and at the same time also being suspicious of oneself, as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=906.0,980.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also begin to develop the-- another characteristic of a deaf and dumb quality. Because you refuse to accept, you refuse to learn anything -- whatever is presented from outsiders. Because everyone is regarded as enemies from that point of view; they must trying to do something. Even most kindest person who trying to help you are regarded as that person has some plot in his mind. So completely the possibilities of communication is completely shut. Result of extraordinarily highly-strung communication that built up within yourself, to your paranoia. Which blocks the whole area of other communication, of spaciousness of communication of *any* kind. That you don't want to be helped. At the same time that you regard any help, if you are being helped, the receiving benefits from being helped is also regarded as very precious one -- it's *so* precious therefore you cannot accept such possible situation; it is *too* precious. Therefore you don't really want to admit that somebody who actually could do that precious thing, precious performance, worthwhile performance on us at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=980.0,1073.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So one tends to develop such blockage, in terms of communication. Because jealousy or envy is very accurate, at same time very paranoid. Sort of antenna, or radar, of its own; register everything. But you read that registration is wrongly, purely in terms of enemy rather than any kind of warmth. So therefore the jealous or envy is could be said as that depends on-- dependent on coldness -- complete opposite of compassion or love. The windy, stormy quality of cold, biting cold, and speedy element, is the only refuge. That's the realm, very cold realm; bleak. That kind of feeling is dominant in terms of asura.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1073.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And a certain point that, when you actually arrive that particular realm, in hundred percent situation, then one tend to develop also... again that's same as the realm of gods: you begin to lose your point. Who is defending who, who is trying to protect who; you are completely bewildered. And one begin to lose point altogether, any kind of reference point, altogether. But at the same time one try to maintain that harshness constantly, all the time. It's quite an interesting, highly-strung characteristic that one *could* develop, if one is inclined toward such extreme situations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1164.0,1221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The talking about all the other realms, all the six realms, that we are going to go through it. We've gone through realm of gods, we've gone through the realm of asura. All of these different realms are connected with one’s innate nature. That psychological being in ourselves, have qualities of fire, water, air, earth, space. All these qualities in us. And each quality is connected with these realms. So it is possible to magnify that particular qualities, which *is* being the realm of gods, or realm of asura, whatever's may be. I mean there is no such fixed concept as that \"Now you are in the realm of the god,\" and \"Now you are in the realm of asura.\" But it is intense extreme cases of whatever's comes up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1221.0,1293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word that we all have the schizophreniac quality, and claustrophobic quality, paranoid qualities; everything, all the neurotic tendencies that you can possibly think of, in terms of human insanity, is also in us. Because they are connected with the elements, or the other side of the coin. So, what we are discussing seems to be is part of that other side of the coin. Of different element that could be prominent, when the external situation happens to thrust us into extreme case. By result of unable to relate with things as they are, but by result of not seeing things as they are, but at the same time trying to manage ourselves, and trying to grab hold of nearest situation and trying to make something out of it, in order to just survive, in order to just maintain one's ego. And because of those situations, therefore the birth of six realms automatically given, as the panic becomes prominent situation. Or occupation of something, of not knowing what to do, is nearest situation of confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1293.0,1386.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So therefore, the basic ignorance is referred as one of the important situation, in terms of giving birth to the six realms of world. You cannot give birth to the six realms unless there is bewilderment and uncertainty. Because of this bewilderment and uncertainty, therefore *something* happens, something is floating nearby and trying to get a hold of that. And that is happens to be the wrong thing to hold on, all the time. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWe could have discussions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1386.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Rinpoche, which one of the bardos is connected with birth, death, dream?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well as we are working a different style this way, but asura realm also has the all the rest of the six bardo types in it already. It has the quality of dream-like; and the impermanent quality of experience happens and dissipate, that's the death; and also trying to recreate a new situation which is birth. And also there is the quality of absorption, which is the meditative state. And there's also occasional spacious quality of a clear-light quality as well. So this state, this realm contains all of the six types of bardos.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: That's not true of all the realms though.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All of them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But I thought you described hell as having no gaps.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: When you were writing an article, remember you were writing-- you were talking about hell, you said that it doesn't have any pulsation, but it’s this constant thing with no gaps. And [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it has to have a background of some kind, in order to operate. I mean, not a gap in the sense of changing frequency. But you have to exist in somewhere. That maintenance existence in itself is on some kind of space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Really?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Otherwise you can't experience suffering-- suffer at all. If there's no suffer and sufferer-- suffering and sufferer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So that even in hell is the possibility of release?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From that point of view, but when we talk about a gap, there is a misunderstanding as gap is regarded as a release, or relief of something, you know, that you are being excused from the situation, extreme situations. But in that sense there's no gap of that kind of release, or relief at all. But in order to function your suffering, you have to have some lubrication of some kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1433.0,1584.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: I don't know whether this is the same question or not, but I'm wondering, what-- this has very particular mechanic, a very particular way of maintaining itself. And I'm wondering just what is the quality of-- the possibility of breaking through that mechanic there? I mean I wonder just how the-- how an opening could take place there? Just...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean the asura realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, [Laughing] the opening seems to take place by itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right. But there’s-- just as there would be a particular mechanic to the maintenance, I should think there would be a specific sort of shock, that would cause there to be a big gap in that maintenance process.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's a part of the service, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Service?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it comes with the service. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Oh I see. So it comes along with the-- [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Comes along with asura. If you fill your gas tank somebody also automatically wipe your windshield. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Yeah, but I thought-- is that-- would you say that then it's a possibility of clearing up vision? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibilities of?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: That's a breakthrough quality in this particular maintenance process would have to do with clearing up a vision?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in terms of wearing out of being in a state of asura, is that you have to maintain yourself constantly. And some stage you begin to lose your logic, you begin to lose your faith; same as being in the realm of gods. And you begin to realize that your tactic or your absorption-- meditative absorption of this kind that you have developed, does not provide a foolproof. And one begin to wander. As long as one begin to wander, then automatically you're providing more spacious situations for other doubts come into it as well, so your experience of being in the realm of asuras begin to diminishes, as you go along. Like same as others, exactly the same thing. You see, usually one experiences some kind of definite experience of occupation, once you are in it, as though you have made a great discovery. That you relate that you would like to believe that whole thing as part of your makeup. You would like to associate that whole thing as part of *you*. And one would begin to enjoy playing that kind of game, because you have found a very solid occupation. But then somehow that doesn't last very long. It begin to diminishes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1584.0,1802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, socially how does one deal with prideful-- communicate with an asura, and whatever?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems to be very difficult to communicate with asuras. It's kind of isolated situation of its own.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So there's no possibility of communication?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you see trouble is, if you're trying to communicate with asura person, asura being, each communication could reinforce their trip. Communication is could be interpreted as trying to destroy them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1802.0,1857.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How do you deal with a student who's come to that place, so [INAUDIBLE] happens?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, somehow it doesn't happen. [Laughter] If you are student, that you want to learn something. Therefore you're already open, so you can't be possibly student and being also asura at the same time. Also for that matter you can't be a student and be in the realm of the gods *either*. I mean that's why that a student is kind of looking for occupation. So you can't be a student and be stuck in the six realms of world at all. If you are really student, if you want to learn something, you have to give something out, you know, you have to relate to something. But if you become self-made spiritual person, or self-made businessman, whatever's may be, then it is impossible. You cease to relate yourself as student or learner, and you regard yourself that you've found some occupation. So you have found occupations of six realms of world. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1857.0,1934.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: And why is accuracy so inherent in this realm? That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's part of its way of maintaining the whole game.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: But it seems that this is, you know like all the realms, is that there's a confusion here, and I don't-- it seems surprising that accuracy is associated with this confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean it *is* part of confusion. But if you want to get really confused, you have to be accurately confused. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: But by accuracy [INAUDIBLE WORDS] do you mean, [INAUDIBLE] paranoid interpretation for events, [INAUDIBLE WORDS].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, all kinds of possible way of maintaining one's own confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1934.0,2002.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said that one is always reaching out for something and whatever it happens to be there is the wrong thing. But if it's there at all, isn't it part of the situation and therefore right in the moment, in some way?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's seemingly right at the moment at that moment. But it's very difficult to say. If somebody's going to rob you on the spot, it seem to be right to be robbed, at that moment. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But what do you mean by-- what did you mean by wrong in that sense? I mean--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, wrong in that sense is, what I'm talking is in terms of whether that creates further confusion, or whether that clears the situation. In the right that means is-- if the right situation's supposed not to create further confusions, because it's precise. Whereas if that situation presents confusion, then it's the wrong thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But isn't the alternative also there, that just as one can be confused by it, so they can also be the guru to teach at that moment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, if you are confused you will find it very difficult to learn from it. I mean, unless you realize your confusion, as it is. If you become part of the confusion completely, you wouldn't even have any questions at all to ask. So if you are *partially* confused, or if you are enlightened-ly confused [laughter], then confusion brings more questions. Which is not really you're confused at all; you're beginning to find a way out of it. Because you ask questions. You begin to speculate. You're not trapped in it at all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: A way out into what? I mean if you're not [INAUDIBLE], what you’re reaching for is not something you want to hold onto. What happens then? If you're not going to continue to be confused?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that you get out situation that you can... I mean, you don't have to hold onto anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Is it like intersection that's here?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Alternative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Yeah. At the beginning it's rather irritating, because there's nobody to relate to yourself with it. The whole thing is very loose. And before you had occupations, fixed and solid occupation. But it is a way out anyway, because you are not bound by anything at that point. Venture into the dharmadhatu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2002.0,2189.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche, could you say something more about the gamelike aspect, or would you call it is it a gamelike state? You said it could be some kind of a game, versus[INAUDIBLE] situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's a kind of way of maintaining itself -- the game-like quality of comparing situations, in order to maintain one's own paranoia.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But you're so wrapped up in it that you don't even realize what you're doing is a game.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE:[INAUDIBLE] play that game. Because you, you feel that you have found very intricate thing to interpret things. And things become fascinating and intricate. And you seem-- seemingly you can work on those-- that maze out of it. You feel that somebody's trying to help you lead you into it. Trying to prove yourself that that person's actually trying to destroy you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2189.0,2257.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Rinpoche, where is the pleasurable aspect of the realm of asuras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The pleasure comes from, in a sense, that you're being smart enough that you haven't been caught anywhere. [Laughter] You manage to even entrap those who trying to help you, as trying to destroy you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: What if who's trying to help you really *are* trying to destroy you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: In the sense that if you would be helped, you would cease to be a jealous god?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Quite possibly, yeah; that's like a fascination to the occupation, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2257.0,2308.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: In the reaching process, you said you reach for the wrong thing. Is the implication there that we could reach for the right thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you trying to reach, you can’t seem to do it. Unless the situation is presented to you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Reaching implies grasping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, automatically. It’s a way of separating yourself from external situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2308.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Do all the bardo states contain grasping?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of some kind or another, yeah. Like the absorption, meditative absorption of realm of gods. And the jealousy quality of asuras, there's always trying to grasp something, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2334.0,2352.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What is the direction of non-grasping? How do you give up grasping? Or step out of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you don't-- you can't just give up grasping like that. Automatically you're aware of yourself giving up grasping, means you're grasping non-grasping. [Laughter] So, seem to be the ultimate and obvious thing is one have to give up the person who's grasping.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How do we do that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: By not doing anything -- meditating. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2352.0,2394.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Rinpoche, you said the asuras were kind of associated with the karma quality. Are the, like, the world of gods associated with another family? Can you tell us?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Realm of gods is associated with, it seems to be that of the buddha family, so meditative absorption. Asura is karma. Getting more complicated. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2394.0,2446.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: How does one become an asura? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you find yourself in it, I suppose. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: I mean, what is the impetus for driving a person from other states to-- into asura?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Speculative, and intellectual speculation, which is largely based on trying to maintain oneself constantly. And if one's trying to maintain oneself constantly, then one also have to look into the negative aspect of maintenance. And who is preventing our maintenance? What's problem of it? One have to develop jealousy.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: It sounds like you're saying that becoming an asura is one of a variety available tactics for defending yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nROBIN KORNMAN: Are there any special characteristics of a person that might make you choose this tactic over others?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's largely based on ambition, to cover up all the areas; make sure that you have the complete right to become emperor. And yearning towards ultimate comfort. And there's no one single instant to irritate you at all. And ultimately are completely under control. It's sort of warlord-minded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2446.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: You said that-- you talked about how all of these six realms interpenetrate each other, they all coexist in some way, that one forms the background, that one perhaps dominates. Do you mean this, you know, in terms of an actual person, over a period of weeks and months that he is predominantly in one realm, or can it be that even in the course of a day that he moves from being predominantly in the realm of the gods to being in asura realm, in that way that it changes very quickly?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It could change very quickly as well as you could stuck in years and years. It's like same as the general idea of bardo as being after death. The traditional estimate is seven weeks, but it is been said that a person with a strong karmic force could take next birth immediately after death. Or could suspend it centuries and centuries. So, the same thing could occur. But those who are able to-- or find themselves to such realms for a long time has more determination, more self-centered; they've found their occupation for life. Whereas in some cases that-- I mean in *some* cases we could say that we get ourselves into these six types of psychotic states; constantly we get into it and we come out of it all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2580.0,2680.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Rinpoche, I don’t-- I hate to back it up but I don't really understand. If the six realms *are* a bardo state, if that's true then what relationship -- and I understand how each realm has the six bardo states, all those qualities together -- but I don't understand what kind of bardo it is. It always-- it has all the qualities of the six bardo states. Is it in another separate bardo?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Another state of bardo?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I mean you said that in the six realms, because of its extreme intensity, in the-- is a bardo, of a sort. And then you said that each realm has the qualities of the six bardo states.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: And I don't quite understand what type of bardo the six realms are.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: All of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But doesn't one predominate? Isn't there in one realm the predomination of one-- or one of the states and-- over--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's depends on the details of psychological state. Whether it is predominantly dream-like quality or predominantly meditative-like quality or whatever it's may be.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] predominantly meditate.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not necessarily, not necessarily. It could be-- you see the-- each realm have to maintain itself by different elements, and that elements contains six types of elements which are the six bardos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2680.0,2804.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Would you say that in going to one realm, from one realm to another, you go into the sidpa bardo?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Yeah, like if you were going up, the gods-- realm of gods to the realm of asuras, the last part of your [INAUDIBLE], the realm of gods to be sort of like sidpa bardo, in the sense of you're seeking--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, at that moment you are stepping out of your bardo state.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: And sort of being born into another realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And then, yeah, and then, I mean then you are be born into new situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2804.0,2846.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: But what you said yesterday, I understood that six realms all put together are the sidpa bardo. Is that correct or isn't it? I mean I'm getting confused now about the bardos. And then there's the other thing is the six bardos: the dream, and the birth and the death. So we're using the word \"bardo\" and it means different things.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, bardo is in-between--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Yeah but then there's-- are there like two different, like categories? I mean like six bardos: dream, death, birth, and I don't know the others, doesn't matter. And the [INAUDIBLE] bardo, the sidpa bardo--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you could say that our human life on Earth, is what we are now. That is the basic sidpa bardo state, in general.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: And that contains the six realms?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that also has the psychological states of different types, of god-like, or hell-like, or hungry ghost-like qualities, and characteristics, psychological states changes all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2846.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, do people in different realms have a tendency to seek each other out? I'm wondering about the interactions between them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Do they help each other out?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: You know, do they flock together, to heighten their experience to destroy or to conquer the other? I'm wondering how people are going to relate, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose you could have the... some kind of affinity maybe. But on the other hand if you're an asura, then the other asura when you meet, it's kind of-- could be regarded as a mockery of yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: But if you were an asura, do you seek out a person who would have a better affinity to a person in another realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: If you were an asura, would you have a more comfortable affinity than with a person in another realm, another[INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's very hard to say. It depends on in the basic strength of your sense of security, how much intense you are being in that state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=2924.0,3013.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Rinpoche? A very specific practical question: there are such people with this characteristic around, and you may find yourself thrown in with them perhaps at work or with a relative or something. You describe the situation as being very-- it sounds very hopeless. You said there's no chance of communication, yet if you’re with a person who is in this -- what sounds like a very dire karmic dilemma -- you might want to do anything you could to communicate, to share yourself, to do anything you might be able to do to help him out of that dilemma. Is there such a thing that you can do, or do you just simply have to recognize the hopelessness of it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it depends on how you find the means to communicate with them, which is very intricate. And have to be extremely skillful, because you can't attempt, you know, several times; you have to do it accurately at once. I think that comes from your style and the style of the other person. And it is feasible that you may able to help, but quite likely it is impossible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3013.0,3106.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: If we look to the pictures of the wheel of life, there is a buddha that appears in each realm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, you have to be a buddha, that's right.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Well, what's the guy doing-- what's he doing in the realm of the asuras?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's speaking their language [laughter].\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Just like that, [INAUDIBLE WORDS]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in an enlightened way, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Would it be possible to approach them? [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. The iconography describes the Buddha of asura realm as armor and sword in his hand. And that's the language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3106.0,3151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Could you explain what you said to distinguish between a bardo and nonbardo state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It seems that the nonbardo state is that there are no extreme situations, but situations could be switched back and forth. It's quite loose; there are so many junctions, that you don’t-- you are not stuck in it but you can make your own choices. Whereas in a bardo state that you are completely stuck, and you are trapped in-between. Between the two extremes. Like extreme pain and extreme pleasure, that you are trapped in it, so that if you try to go too far you'll find yourself in extreme pleasure. And you don't want to leave that, but if you go to the other extreme you find extreme pain, and you don't know how to get out of it, so you are sort of trapped in that situation. Like in a meditative absorption, or jealous-god-like thing or whatever is may be. Each extreme case presents a kind of prison of its own, so you have no way out-- outlet of any kind. And nonbardo state is like the questioning mind, or the true function of buddha nature, that dissatisfaction that plays in the actual realm of people that you could communicate it, is that you have questions, if you have doubts, you could make choices of all kinds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3151.0,3259.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Then why is the clear-light a bardo state? Is that a trap too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's also-- clear light in this case is a sort of transparent situation, which could be colored by all kinds of other experiences. I mean clear light is generally a state of no-man's land, and it could be made into someone's territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: In other words, you could be in clear light and not [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, clear light is also experience of buddha, buddha-nature. Even transcends buddha-nature, and buddhahood as such. The clear light becomes part of non-returning.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: In other words, you're not-- you don't have any sense of being in such a state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You are part of it. You are part of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3259.0,3339.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: In actual practice, how does bardo and non-bardo come together? In extreme states, how would the [INAUDIBLE] in bardo, how the moment of nonbardo [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. How does it actually work?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems that if you have found your fixed logic, or your way of maintaining your ego or your occupation, then you are in some bardo state of some kind or other. Whereas if you are still searching, if you are still open, or if you're free from search altogether, that's a nonbardo state.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Well how about the transitions between bardo states? Are there moments of nonbardo there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, there is occasional doubts of whether one is actually in that state forever or whether one really actually found some answers or not; one is uncertain, and your bardo state begin to shaken, and your conviction begin to fall apart. And as your conviction becomes more and more shaky and more falls apart, then you come out of that particular extreme case, you come back to the nonbardo state; you become a student again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3339.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: What's the difference between sear-- *not* searching [INAUDIBLE WORDS]. Because it seems that very very often you get the message of just, \"quit searching.\" And yet now you say that the characteristic of the nonbardo state is the searching.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. It is so.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: But you said quit searching, you also say you can't [INAUDIBLE] in the nonbardo state is the search--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is the search. Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: Are you asking us to get back into the bardo? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. [Laughter] Quit searching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3416.0,3460.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: Rinpoche? [laughter] Rinpoche, is the clear light inherent within nonbardo state?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends. Clear light seem to be is like water, which has no color. But if you put colors in it, clear light also absorbs that color. But still, the water quality as colorless remains.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: But how does that relate to the nonbardo state? [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because there's also colorless quality while being in color. I mean, if you poured paint in the water, still the water remains transparent, while it's carrying different colors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3460.0,3517.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Is there a state which is [INAUDIBLE] bardo, beyond bardo?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that seems to be... sort of a final state of realization. That you are not searching anymore and you are not trapped anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Is that sort of taking the situation as it is, all the time?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Is it a real possibility? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you'll find out. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3517.0,3575.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Do you feel you have some answers? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wanted to. [Laughter] Well searching seems to be a kind of open introduction, to open your mind toward something. But style of that search is non-search. Do you see what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nJEREMY HAYWARD: It's non-grasp.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Non-grasp, yeah. I mean, you decide to search, you have a question, you have doubts -- that's good. And then how to answer your problems, how to find a way out of doubts, is non-grasping, which is not searching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3575.0,3644.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Rinpoche, these states are states that not only relate to other people, but ourselves. How do we relate to ourselves from an asura point of view when we happen to find ourselves in that situation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do we find ourselves in asura--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Yeah, like we find ourselves behaving like jealous gods. You know, seeing things through that [INAUDIBLE]. How do we relate to ourselves from that point of view? [INAUDIBLE] recognizing that other people [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well I think the answer-- I suppose that one could relate with oneself as you're willing to step out of the comfort of being in such a state, which is very, very hard to do. Because when you find your style, which for a long time that we are looking for, that we want to become *somebody*, which automatically means we would like to have our own style, our own dignity. And everybody's long for that. We admire people who have characters, we admire people who are-- have a style of their own, and want to become like them. So once you've found a style of something, whether it's realm of gods style, or asura style, that it is quite delightful situation in the beginning, that at last we are *somebody* now. [Laughter] But then if you realize it is asura... I mean at this point that we have developed term for it and a frame of reference to it, and we have sort of label it as being that particular type of samsaric realm, so I suppose we are supposed to get message from that. [Laughter] And willing to step out of that comfort of creating our style of our own and willing to get back to the confused state that we didn't have any styles. Which is very hard to give up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3644.0,3802.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED SHERAB CHODZIN: Would you say that the six bardo states are a resource, that someone following the style of any one of the six realms can draw upon -- all six of them can draw upon -- in order to continue his particular style of maintenance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean each time? Each given moment?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED SHERAB CHODZIN: Well, I mean at any moment. It's-- the way I-- the way it hit me is that each bardo state provides a certain substance of illusion, a certain particular world of illusion, and that a certain set of tricks. And that someone in-- someone living in a particular-- living out a particular-- in a particular realm of the world could draw upon one or another of those six sets of tricks at any time.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [INAUDIBLE] No doubt, yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED SHERAB CHODZIN: It's a--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean that's generally happens, but that's not regarded as your stuck in that realm necessarily, that's you're acting on your potentials. Whether it's proper to use teeth or proper to use your claws. You know, it's kind of, you're trying to pull out-- trying to-- line up your particular potentials. Rather than you actually stuck in it. I mean, that seem to happen constantly, all the time with everyone, anyone. That's not regarded as you actually in a realm as such.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED SHERAB CHODZIN: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But actually you are exploring your possible way of defending yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3802.0,3938.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER28: But how does the dream state reinforce any of the realms? Because dreams have a tendency to point out more what the real situation is to us, to let us remind us of the things that we've been forgetting while we were in any given realm. So in that sense the dream state seems to me to continue trying to tug you out of whatever realm you find yourself in at the moment.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, dreams always causes either relating something that you would like to happen in the future, or something that happened to you already in the past. May not be particularly accurate picture at the moment, but it gives tremendous room to... venture out. Kind of realm of imagination, rather than dream really. Imagination, and possible ideas. Which is completely devoid of relating with the physical situation, but the idea of purely relating with the phenomenon situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean all these realms have the unreal quality in them as well, because you are trying to hold on so tight and so hard, that whole thing becomes-- because it's so real and so hard, so tight, therefore, sometime it becomes very loose and very sort of dreamlike quality, mirage like quality at the same time as well. And that's part of one of the characteristics of bardo state, is confusion between seriousness and looseness. And then occasionally one have to bring oneself back to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=3938.0,4063.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: So perhaps when a person is dwelling in this realm is in one of a meditative state or a dream state, where there is kind of a looseness. That there's a possibility of communicating to that person, just getting perhaps a split second of them coming to you for something very small that they’re-- just kind of break through to them?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's-- it could be, yeah, it's a sneaky way of [laughter] communicating them. It could, but at same time if you raise too much alarm, quite possibly they might jump back on their solid ground and pretend that they're not dreaming at all. But it is highly possible. I mean that seem to be one of the way of the buddhas communicate -- buddhas of each realm communicate to them, is using the teaching of the situation rather than teaching. So that situations-- they might have to share the same situation at the same time. And if both are walking on a very shaky bridge or something, where they both have to be careful walking out of-- how to walk carefully, so then communicate from that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is very narrow, because particularly, like asura realm is very much on guard. That way of dealing with you is about, is really ultimate kind of fear that they have, that this is the-- what people do -- trying to get at you. And very much on guard on that particular style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4063.0,4178.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]? [Laughter] Does that, you know, like, will that [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so, somehow. Whole thing becomes very-- I mean, in terms of asura are concerned that there's so much things certain that they have worked out so methodically, everything. I mean it could be said as the same thing in others-- other realms. Whole thing's worked out so methodically, that *you* come out as though you're using the other person as a guinea pig, but other person's not a guinea pig at all. He is professional in six realms of world, so he could come back at you and use *you* as a guinea pig.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4178.0,4229.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Should be getting on their wavelengths to be [INAUDIBLE WORDS] to kind of accept and acknowledge their state.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, even that wavelength could be also, you know, very tricky. It could also reject your vibrations, or what you like to call it. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4229.0,4252.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: It sounds very important to be on the side of such a person, as well as being in any way opposed to them.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, even then that could be a very suspicious thing, you're trying to sabotage him. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4252.0,4271.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: Rinpoche, getting back to the intrigue, when we're talking about six realms of being, in the [Tibetan] Book of the Dead, but you said the intrigue is all important, that [INAUDIBLE WORDS] a game.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah, mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: And so there's really no possibility of [INAUDIBLE] playing game in relationship without reinforcing that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No that's [INAUDIBLE]. There's a tremendous skillfulness involved with the person who's going to communicate to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4271.0,4307.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Rinpoche, what would you say to the technique of the intensification of the support for the paranoia? Like throwing a fish back into the sea, so that the sharks are after the fish? The fish don't find it that the thing is real, the paranoia then becomes real.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, they have to be-- again they have to be a balance, how far you go with that. I mean, that kind of a tactic is particularly could be only used once; if you miss with once then you fail for rest of it. So it's quite an expensive thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4307.0,4348.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Rinpoche, you used the term \"schizophrenic\" in relation to people in the asura realm. And then you also said in one of the answers to the questions, that such a person is-- in order to maintain themselves they're seeking to develop a character, or a personality or an identity. Now, I think when the psychologists talk about schizophrenia -- and I'm thinking particular of someone like [R.D.] Laing, he says that one of the schizophrenic's problems is he *doesn't* have a character, he doesn't have identity, except he doesn't know who he is and so he doesn't feel comfortable with himself. And also somehow asking this question, I remember a conversation I overheard just recently where somebody was saying that fifty percent of the students at a certain meditation center became schizophrenic and kind of commuted between a mental institution and the meditation center. [Laughter] It sounds tough. And you're saying that the schizophrenic person is *seizing* on his identity, and then the psychologists are saying that his problem is that he *doesn't* have an identity. That seems to be a conflict.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, in the sense of that he doesn't have identity in terms of... like ordinary people would have permanent identity as such. But he does have some kind of identity, because he's professional at his game. And whenever he realize he doesn't have identity, he jumps back in his game. So he has this extremely skillful professional kind of thing. It could be said that it's same as asura situation, that I mean fundamentally you are insecure. Therefore your insecurity provides your security. That kind of situation. Which gives tremendous occupation, thing to do all the time; you're kept busy at it. You don't have to think your insecurities anymore. You're kept busy constantly playing games. But you-- at the same time you know *how* to play games, and they are quite obvious to them, you know. Doesn't have to think or strategize anymore at all, just comes at you quite spontaneously, you just do it.\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Mhmm. So the schizophrenic person, there's a deliberate quality about his seeking an identity.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, and impulsive quality, which is very confident, as far as their games are concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4348.0,4509.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 38]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: What about the energy? Is it-- is there only one energy, or are there different types of energies for each realm?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose you could say different textures or different kind of colors. Like the different energies of the five buddha families, that kind of situation. But all of the energies governed by ego, so therefore the general qualities with energies are maintenance of ego. All the effort as being given to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4509.0,4554.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 39]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER37: Rinpoche, I'm trying to compare this with what you said about bardo when you-- in the seminar in Allenspark. There I got the impression that you sort of can hang out in one of the six realms, and when the experience characteristic of that realm becomes particularly intensified, you sort of peak out, in what that you called the bardo there. And at that point where you peak out, then there was a possibility of freaking out and the possibility of perceiving catching onto something. And here I get the impression on the other hand, that most of the time we sort of go about maintaining ourselves, and we sort of hang out in the bardo state. And only some of the time are we open and looser about it. And in the bardo state, rather than being a place where you might possibly receive something, it's a place where you are just stuck.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean the whole situation is that you have to have a sense of... extreme case. That in the situation of extreme case, that there is likelihood situation of that you could intensify each bardo experience. And you could sort of turn into a non-bardo state. But that cannot really helped by anything at all, by external situation or by teachers, or by anything, you have to do it yourself. It is still helpless situation. Either you do it, you know, yourself or it doesn't happen. So it's a sort of a very manual situation, by yourself. But on the other hand, that there is possibilities of intensification of bardo experience could be reduced by occasional doubts and occasional gaps, and you could come back from each realm and then maybe enter into another one or then re-enter into the previous one, and that kind of situation goes on all the time. But that first needs intense situation. Either intense situation brings you back, or intense situation frees you out completely. And we haven't touched that particular topic, of what's going into details of relating with the different types of wisdoms of the buddha families of the different realms associated with that, in terms of intensifying the extreme of confusion and then that confusion brings realization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=4554.0,4735.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72377/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We probably should stop. There's basketball coming. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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If there's\nno suffer and sufferer--\nsuffering and sufferer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1545.53,1553.42"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72378/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: So that even in hell\nis the possibility of release?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025#t=1553.42,1555.85"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138137/file/256025/transcript/72378/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From that point\nof view,\nbut when we talk about a 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