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The interviewer poses questions keeping the general public in mind -- about what people learn at Seminary, who comes to Seminary, whether Buddhism is a religion, and how Buddhism fits in with American society. Trungpa Rinpoche explains how Buddhism is about learning to be \"a decent human being,\" and make a contribution to the world; how psychologists were the first to welcome Buddhism to America, as Buddhism is a \"study of the mind\"; and also that he anticipates how Buddhism will take root in a prominent way in America. NOTE: the interview is being played back and re-recorded over a telephone connection.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 05 2024 to Mar 25 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: JP Glutting Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Blaire Martin, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1982"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA short but interesting interview with journalist Bob Dvorchak for the Associated Press wire service, on the occasion of Vajradhatu Seminary taking place at a resort hotel in Bedford Springs, Pennsylvania. The interviewer poses questions keeping the general public in mind -- about what people learn at Seminary, who comes to Seminary, whether Buddhism is a religion, and how Buddhism fits in with American society. Trungpa Rinpoche explains how Buddhism is about learning to be \"a decent human being,\" and make a contribution to the world; how psychologists were the first to welcome Buddhism to America, as Buddhism is a \"study of the mind\"; and also that he anticipates how Buddhism will take root in a prominent way in America. NOTE: the interview is being played back and re-recorded over a telephone connection.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/269/312/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1743689085","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1743689061_19820119VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":797.28594,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/269/312/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1743689085","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/269/312/original/1743689061_19820119VCTR1-Audio-Prod-CTICustRmstr-Access.mp3?1743689062","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":797.28594,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19820119VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19820119VCTR1 - Interview - Bedford Springs - Associated Press: Story on Bedford Springs Seminary]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Media Interview. Associated Press phone interview, recorded in Bedford Springs, Pennsylvania on January 19th, 1982. This is a CTI custom remaster, made March 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=0.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CONVERSATION BEFORE TAPE REPLAY]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Yeah, Alan?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay, I'm going to have to do it again, okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: And I'm just going to start the recorder and then it's going to-- you're set up to receive it, right?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: We're rolling.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Just give me about ten seconds then I'm just going to start it.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Fine.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: [Whispering] You got ten minutes on here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=28.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Tape Recording Being Played over Phone]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: [INAUDIBLE] very interested in your seminary here, and everything that's going on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: I'm going to ask you, if there was one thing that a person could learn while they were here, the ideal thing for them to learn, what would that be? What would you like these people to take home?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think that's rather, that's the [INAUDIBLE WORDS], and [INAUDIBLE]. And it's I think largely to slow down. And also have their lifestyle in order, so no particular chaos. And gentleness and not harming other people. And also at the same time contributing a great deal to the community at large, society at large. And whatever the-- you know, we are encouraging them to go back to their particular jobs, or if they hadn't found anything, we encourage them to find one, that it could serve the society.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo basically I think the-- we call it the mark of being Buddhist is less speedy, and more accurate, and intelligent. And at the same time, not too ambitious either. It seems to be the point of, you know, how society should be, ideally speaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=43.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: You basically have a group of ordinary people though, from all over the country here, and some from other countries.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, we have quite a wide range of, as you I'm sure have already encountered with them. And they're lawyers and doctors and nurses, and just teachers and, you know, businessmen; people of all different kind of background.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Is that what Buddhism should appeal to? Or is that just the [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well we hope at large, at length, yes. That it's a question of not making a special thing about being Buddhist. It's like-- you know like the Shakers or the Quakers, or the whatever you might have.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But our approach is just, you know, large approach; that from being able to be president, to being a garbage man, sort of whole range.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=166.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: We’ve heard all day, and we’ve talked all day about what Buddhism is and what it should be. Is it a religion? If it's not exactly a religion what exactly is it? Could you give us your definition?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's not a religion in the sense of the Christian approach. And we don't seem to have that kind of notion of holiness, particularly. And it is-- I think the safest thing to say is that some kind of learn to live, about learning to be a decent human being. It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: How to learn to--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --a decent human being. A good citizen, or whatever you call it, you know. And so it's more of, from that point of view, a religious point of view, the Christians' religious point of view, we're more secular in some sense. Although we do chants, and we sit. And everything we do is sort of field training to-- how to get back to the world. Our community at large, and I'm sure you can talk about that, knowing how it consist of, of these people, of businessmen, and doctors and lawyers and psychiatrists, and all sorts of things.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd originally Buddhism was invited into this country and the Western world, altogether was actually through study of the mind, of sort of psychology study, because the people begin to realize that Buddhism deals with the mind, much more than anything else. And people are, I would say that the psychological students, and teachers of psychology, are the-- responsible in bringing Buddhism to the West. Generally speaking. And that's how Buddhism was introduced; like Zen and other things be introduced into this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=245.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Do you enjoy your teaching?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well enormously, otherwise I would be done for long time ago. [Laughter] I like my students, and I work with them. And they're-- they could be dumb and slow, sometimes. But at same time their progress is immense, because we don't push them. We just let them grow themselves. So, therefore they develop very fast. And I like very much being with them, absolutely. And I love them all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=390.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LINDA: This is your first winter you've had a seminary in Pennsylvania. Are you enjoying being here in Pennsylvania and in this hotel?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very much, absolutely. I had some hesitation to begin with before I actually saw the location and the building. But once I got here, I felt very much at home actually, and enjoy it very much here. And I will say [INAUDIBLE] Vermont-- Vermont? We have land center there. Because of the center in Vermont I spend a lot of time there. And particularly the center there is a typical East Coast type.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I enjoy it very much being here. And also the local people, that we had some exchanges with them, like we’ve gone to restaurants and buying things and from them, and they've been extremely amiable, absolutely amiable. And so I like very much. And in fact we hope that we can come back again, here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=434.0,508.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LINDA: You said you had some reservations at first. What were those?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think usually when I hear reports I always take with a pinch of salt. Always, anything. That's my training, you know, if you’re be leader of somebody or other, you don't just buy on somebody's report, somebody's observation alone. So I was just concerned about it may not be suitable -- that the shrine room might be too small, or the student quarters too-- not up to the standard and things like that. So, seeing is believing, from my way of working things. [Laughs] This is just general, you know, that I was brought up as a leader, so that's the-- how one works.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=508.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LINDA: Do you feel that Buddhism and your particular lineage of Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, is growing in this country, or is about the same as it's been in ten years, or how would you characterize it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think it's growing quite deeply. And particularly the hippie culture has been subsiding, slowly, as you know, and the drug culture has slowly subsiding. And something is not subsiding is the Buddhist approach.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LINDA: So you said it's *not* subsiding--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not subsiding, is Buddhist approach. And I think it will actually become a part of American national religion, one of the national religions of America. And because we are contributing a lot. And we constantly get our students, you know, constantly, as people settle down, whatever, ex-hippies and so on. And they begin to have their jobs and children and family, and they begin to come with us. 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It's [INAUDIBLE WORDS] at times, but that's what we're looking for, that we have working basis as well, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, a lot of things to work with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=643.0,662.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: My son actually remarked that when you are doing the kyudo, downstairs, you are so preoccupied and so busy.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: [Laughs] Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And he was-- he thought that was ironic, you know. Usually he get nervous, when somebody interviews him, but this time that you got nervous.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Well, I didn't want to interrupt what they were doing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: And I was afraid that by my talking I might take away from their exercise, and I didn't want to do that. Ao I asked him a few questions -- I was a little timid, and I didn't want to do it if it was going to distract the other people. That's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: That's basically why.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: And even when-- while he was doing it, and we were taking pictures, and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: --and we probably blinded him so many times with the light. But yeah, he was a trooper. He did it, just--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: He's very good at it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: That was my big concern, that I didn't want to detract from the [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, well, it worked out, and [INAUDIBLE] everybody, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay, good. Everything worked out well and--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hopefully, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=662.0,733.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: He's very good by the way.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thank you. Yes, well he's been practicing quite a lot, actually. And you heard about his master in Japan, Imperial Court--\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --and that kind of thing. And he's been very good at. And he's been excellent son, on the whole.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Good.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And he practices lot, he sits in meditation quite a lot.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And at this age it's-- you know, he's the least of the American-type children, who will rebel against whatever the parents do, or whatever, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Sure, at age twenty.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. But he's been quite--\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Should have a cowboy hat and Levi's [INAUDIBLE] [laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312#t=733.0,782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2232/collection_resources/146103/file/269312/transcript/78155/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: POST-REPLAY DISCUSSION]\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Bob? Hello? [Whistles] Hello? Hello?\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Alan?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Bob!\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Yeah?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Just got to the end.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay, good, good. Did it sound okay?\r\n\r\n\r\nALAN SCHWARTZ: Yeah, it was fine. We had a-- got a fine pickup on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nBOB DVORCHAK: Okay, good.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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