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This talk began with a long period of silence during which Trungpa Rinpoche was hidden from the audience by a large folding mirror which had been placed in front of his seat. His uttering of the word \"hell\" which began the talk was followed by a loud and long burst of laughter from the audience. The mirror was then removed piece by piece as the talk continued. Aggression arising from wanting to destroy projections. Peak anger as not knowing whether you are trying to destroy something or achieve something through act of destroying—ambiguous and conflicted quality of simultaneous destruction and creation. Recognizing impermanence as peak experience of transcending aggression; then anger becomes positive, something to work with. [Q12] Fear is also aggression; the ultimate confusion of the relationship between you and your projection. [Q17, Q31] Neurotic passion of sexual desire in contrast to compassion and compared with destructive energy of aggression. [Q20, Q26, Q27] Without ego one can’t attain enlightenment, so need to make friends with ego."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Transcending Madness","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: TRANSCENDING MADNESS: Part One, Chapter 8: The Bardo of Death\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/transcending-madness-1570.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book TRANSCENDING MADNESS)\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-380.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Sep 13 2021 to Sep 14 2022 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Jessyca Goldstein Final Proof: Ruth Veleta Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["The bardo of death, associated with the hell realm. This talk began with a long period of silence during which Trungpa Rinpoche was hidden from the audience by a large folding mirror which had been placed in front of his seat. His uttering of the word \"hell\" which began the talk was followed by a loud and long burst of laughter from the audience. The mirror was then removed piece by piece as the talk continued. Aggression arising from wanting to destroy projections. Peak anger as not knowing whether you are trying to destroy something or achieve something through act of destroying—ambiguous and conflicted quality of simultaneous destruction and creation. Recognizing impermanence as peak experience of transcending aggression; then anger becomes positive, something to work with. [Q12] Fear is also aggression; the ultimate confusion of the relationship between you and your projection. [Q17, Q31] Neurotic passion of sexual desire in contrast to compassion and compared with destructive energy of aggression. [Q20, Q26, Q27] Without ego one can’t attain enlightenment, so need to make friends with ego."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\n[NOTE: This talk began with a long period of silence during which Trungpa Rinpoche was hidden from the audience by a large folding mirror which had been placed in front of his seat. His uttering of the word \"hell,\" which began the talk, was followed by a loud and long burst of laughter from the audience. The mirror was then removed piece by piece as the talk continued.]\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: This will be Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on The Six States of Bardo, held in Allenspark, Colorado, in July 1971. This will be the eighth lecture, entitled Bardo Experience in the Hell World, July 23rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=0.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hell. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=24.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Experience of hell comes from deliberate and basic aggression. That aggression of trying to work the opposite of patience. But when we talk about patience, it usually means being extremely kind and cool. But somehow patience seem to have a different meaning than that of just keeping your cool. Patience this case is also not only keeping your cool as such, but being-- seeing the situation in its fullest extent. That patience could be said as that of active, extreme active, energetic, but not necessarily a lot of waiting, waiting to happen, waiting to see. Is in other word, patience is having proper relationship with exchange situation, the exchange of… situations as it is. And you are a part of that situation, not that you are working on your strategy, how to work with that situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=57.0,217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the basic aggression of hell comes from... that you want to destroy your projection. Natural aggression that you want to destroy the mirror. As projection works as it is, in its very efficient and accurate way, it becomes too embarrassing, that you don't want to go along with it. Instead of seeing the naked truth, that you want to destroy the mirror..., to the extent that not only destroying the projection or the mirror but also perceiver of that mirror is also extremely painful. So suicidal mentality of wanting to destroy the perceiver of the mirror as well as the mirror itself. So there is a constant struggle, destruction, goes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=217.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In connection with the bardo experience with this type of experience of hell, of claustrophobia in pain and pleasure, is the sudden peak of anger. Not knowing whether you are actually trying to destroy anything or whether you are trying to achieve something by destroying. This kind of ambiguous quality of destruction and creation. Naturally of course the destruction is in itself creation. But somehow there's a conflict. You have created destruction, therefore that is creation. In other word that one is not quite certain -- because of the energy, because of the speed that you go through -- that whether you are actually going or coming. The moment when you think you are going, you discover that you are coming. And that kind of extreme speed of running, rushing, becomes confusing. That's the particular peak experience of bardo of death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=342.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And death could be said of birth at the same time, from this point of view. That moment where something ends also next birth takes place, naturally. So death is recreating of birth. In the same idea of like reincarnation, rebirth process. Also that realization of death is being constant death. That things cannot exist or develop unless momentum, change is taking place always, constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=451.0,512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that is why in the teachings talks tremendous importance in the realization of impermanence. Impermanence becomes extremely important at this particular point of aggression, where the aggression is trying to freeze the space, still trying to sterilize the space. That when you begin to see the impermanence and you can't solidify space anymore, then that is the peak experience of transcending aggression. With aggression also is same thing as what we discussed yesterday, as hunger. That if you are fully involved with the bardo experience of six realms of world experience, you also experience your neighboring territory, next to hungry ghost is hell realm as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=512.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And another aspect is aggression or hell experience could be also self-pity, completely closing in, self-condemnation, condemning oneself because there is nothing attractive that is in you at all, nothing beautiful. That you would like to destroy basically or escape from you. And that kind of self-condemning quality in oneself is could be said very positive one in a way. That it is-- you are just about to discover the opposite of that. You are just about to see the alternatives, and because of alternatives you ask question other than what you are, other than where you're at, which is a very healthy situation in a way. Inspiration -- condemnation could be said inspiration. As long as person could proceed further on that condemnation, further experience of oneself. That condemner, the person who condemns, and that which is subject to condemn, are different. As long as one is able to get knowledge of subject--\r\n\r\n\r\n[Whispering; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n--that particular condemner is removed. In other word watcher is removed -- the instinct of egocentric notion of trying to achieve perfection, trying to achieve a perfect, good thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=611.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole process changes then, whole attitude changes once you remove that. The condemnation itself remains independent situation. That particular independent situation of condemning quality contains light and space and questions and doubts and confusions. And that confusion and doubt and questions managed being born in the situation of possibilities of the dawn, the dawn breaking through. In the tantric analysis of this, it is used the dawn of Vajrasattva breaking through. That is to say that dawn of indestructible continuity is just about to show its experience through.\r\n\r\n\r\nSo talking about aggression in this point of view becomes a creative thing. The whole pattern of aggression of hell realm becomes very positive, something that we could work on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we should stop there.\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LUDWIK TURZANSKI: Do you want to do the questions from here?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: [inaudible chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Oh no! [Laughter; chatter] I'm sure Wilco has manufactured lots of them. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=745.0,902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you talk about the creative aspects of paranoia?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is also exactly same situation. That if it's, so to speak, straight paranoia, then it is very positive. That paranoia makes you to see something, makes you to look into another territory, another area. Whereas if it's diluted paranoia, which is to say manipulated paranoia, then you don't want to get off paranoia at all. You would like to retain your paranoia as cover, as mask, and all sorts of pretenses begin to involve with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sorry?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you explain that particular paranoia just a little bit more?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is the... paranoia becomes comforting in some way, because you can hide behind it, because it keeps you company. Otherwise you feel alone, that nobody's with you, working with you, but paranoia is only way of exercising action. And because of that then paranoia transforms into acting. Because paranoia inspire you to do certain things, then you begin to act as though you are not there at all, as though somebody else is taking you over, or some other situation is taking you over. That there is always confused situations around you and trying to immediately get into it, and blow that situation up, and make that into shield. We generally become extremely clever at doing that. There's always something or other that we could catch at last moment and make it into shield. That kind of paranoia goes on. So that's the diluted paranoia, as opposed to innocent paranoia. That could be also called what's known as the basic twist of ego. That particular paranoia also teaches us how to play game of deaf and dumb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=902.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You said that self-condemnation, self-pity, may be a positive action. Now it is my experience observing a lot of people, I find that the self-pity and self-condemnation trip decays into hate, withdrawal. And I very rarely have seen that these people have been able to get themselves out of this box. Yet you feel, from what I hear, that there seems to be a self-energizing element to it, which forces people into self-examination, asking questions. And I find this extremely rare in my-- from what I have observed. I wondered what is lacking in their lives. Touched rock bottom, more or less. Flirt with suicide, perhaps even committed it. Yet I see very little evidence that something arises out of the ashes of self-destruction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it is... intelligence of self-condemnation has extremely keen eye, keen sight. Sees every move and every mistake that you make. It is very precise and very clear. And this inspiration seem to come from the ego's inspiration of wanting to protect oneself but somehow, strange enough, doesn't work like that. It also worked on a wider scale beyond ego level as well. It worked to the extreme of discriminate awareness wisdom level. There's this element as well. You see the the point is that intelligence is neutral thing, and certain part of intelligence is employed by ego, and a certain part of intelligence is employ-- is independent intelligence, and whenever you see situation or game of any kind you begin to play a game of any kind, then that intelligence becomes panoramic intelligence, begin to see the situations as it is. So condemning is... is could be said another way of shaking you or breaking you from the extreme belief of what you would like to be, to what you are, in terms of ego. So it becomes a natural creative process as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1115.0,1302.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But it seems to drive one deeper into it, though. Once you're aware of all the things that are wrong, then the gulf seems that much deeper and the possibilities seem that much more fewer.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is because you are looking from point of view of watcher. You are watching your condemnation, and you are manipulating it, you are commentating on it. That's why it becomes clumsy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1302.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And what is then the energizing act to transcend this particular-- the watching? You get fascinating by this self-condemnation. You wallow in it, in self-pity, and so forth. And yet as I said before, I find very rarely that somebody boosts himself out of it. Does not seem to be self-energizing, but it seems to be proof of decay in so many cases.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's exactly point that I'm trying to get at. Is that even if it is self-congratulatory situations of pride, that pride and self-congratulation does not have the inspiration of extending into the limitless situations at all. From this point of view self-congratulation as well as self-condemning are the exactly the same situation because there is a watcher involved. When there's-- whenever there is no watcher involved then that you are looking into wild situation of whole, open ground of every situation. Open space. And you get extreme aerial view of everything completely. That's where analogy of transformation of negative into positive-- I mean that analogy is very poor, in fact, it is one-sided analogy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1332.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: What's striving to invent things that are wrong, you know, just so you'll have something to have that's wrong?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Driving to?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Striving to invent things that fill the void with things that are wrong, you know. Putting leeches on yourself, you know what I mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's like the watcher. That you are-- before you perceive what is, you are conscious of *how* you perceive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1431.0,1461.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Could you say about transforming the positive into the negative, or the negative into positive, is one-sided way of... Well how-- what's a better way, better analogy, of that proc-- whatever that process is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well but-- I mean obviously it's remove the watcher, remove the criteria. Limited criteria. Once there's-- you have removed limited criteria then there is-- discriminating wisdom is automatically there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But isn't that transformation [INAUDIBLE WORDS]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't say exactly transformation as such, in terms of changing one thing into another, in terms of bad turn into good. But it's a kind of... natural awakeness of the negative is positive. The awakened state of negative is positive in its own accord, in its own raw and rugged quality.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The further you go into the negative, the more you awaken then, that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Without watcher, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. Well what about transforming is often used in terms of, like, transforming like anger into accomplishment, for instance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there's whole range of that, takes place all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [INAUDIBLE WORDS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Of course, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say condemnation vanishes as it is. But the-- still the intelligence and the critical vision of the condemnation remains. Which is the ground of where positive things to build on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1461.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You said the reason why sometimes you have the instead of the luxurious self-condemnation that you might have had, that you have kind of a revelation of you see yourself suddenly [feedback], and it's a big shock [laughter] from entire different angle. And-- thank you [laughs], and then you feel very terrible at the moment, but a very strange thing happens that afterwards there's a great relief.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that sounds right. You see the whole idea is that, like the four noble truth, for instance. The first truth of suffering, is condemning samsara, how bad, how terrible it is, how painful it is. Out of that condemnation the looking into the origin of pain develops. And then from that then goal-- inspiration of a goal develops. From there inspiration of path develops. So whole thing works that way.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can the watcher have a positive function, at least in the beginning stages, say, of meditation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the beginning of beginning maybe. But if watcher is being used as purely observer, then it is positive in a sense. But if watcher is being used as a guardian, then it begin to become different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1588.0,1687.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Watcher as a guardian?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. Because if you use as guardian, once you have a guard, the guard must know whom to allow, whom to not allow. That kind of criteria begin to develop.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: So it would have to be in the sense of \"bear witness\", then it could be positive?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Just witness, yeah, pure witness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Pure witness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But that's dangerous to talk about, recommend that. In generally that we have a tendency to overindulge in the watcher, possibilities of becoming guardian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1687.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: So when you have a flash of anger it might be good to just plunge right into it rather than observe it, I mean to really become that feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well exactly. You see the point is that that doesn't mean to say that you... you should murder somebody, or you should suppress it. But just see the natural anger quality as it is, the abstract quality of anger, like the abstract quality of condemning oneself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yeah but you see that by observing the feeling or by becoming one with the feeling?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Becoming one with the feeling. Every-- it seems to be, quite safe to say, that every practice that is connected with the path is practice associated with nonduality, becoming one with something or other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1718.0,1781.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: If the person is not aware of themselves, then are they at one with themselves? You know, a person who is unaware of their anger, unaware of the changes they're going through?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so. There's tremendous differences between unaware of what's happening and identify with what's happening. Identified with what's happening is sort of awake and precise, there's tremendous clarity in it. Whereas when you're not know what's happening, there's tremendous confusion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1781.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Seems like suicide would be a kind of ultimate egohood.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's what we trying to do, when we realize there's no-- that you can't release yourself, then destroy yourself, in order to-- purely in order to save face.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: I mean then it seems like that really, like if ego can destroy you actually physically, then it's like saying \"I really-- it really must be something\" then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see ego can't really destroy you at all. Suicide is another way of expanding ego's existence, proving its, ego's existence, because destroying body doesn't mean to say destroying ego. So it's saving face.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1829.0,1885.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Are there other negative emotions other than say aggression [INAUDIBLE] in the realm of hell, such as fear or terror?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's all part of it. Fear and terror are also part of aggression, is absolutely highly developed state of mind of duality. Like fear is absolute, ultimate confusion of the relationship between you and your projection. That's why you get frightened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1885.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What's the difference between the red of violent anger and the red of Amitabha?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well Amitabha is--\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Would you say the question again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: What's the difference between the color red of violent anger and the red of Amitabha Buddha?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's... Amitabha is like fire. It has the quality of radiating, radiant, radiation, extending to the point where there's no limit at all. That's why \"Amitabha\" means \"limitless light.\" And in terms of anger, it's kind of oven-like quality. It's not like flame in the ordinary sense; it doesn't throw heat outward but it throws heat inward, so we get baked in. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1925.0,1998.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Does the oppressive quality kind of vanish then if you stop watching it, in other words, that's what I was driving at is [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: The oppressive quality, that pressure inward, somehow, that feeling of being squeezed and having no room, when you stop watching somehow and just get into it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems the watcher is... has this mentality of internalizing everything, yeah. Do you mean that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: I can't-- not so much that, but just like squeezing on your-- on yourself somehow, pushing against oneself or into oneself like the-- I don't think [INAUDIBLE WORDS] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that is watcher, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is watcher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1998.0,2046.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well if one-- if a person became one with a very strong impulse like anger, or fear, and they were very aware on what was going on, would the \"I\" of intelligence enter in there at that point? Is that possible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think so.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Well what did you mean by saying that you should become one with the impulse?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well this is not introverted oneness but extroverted oneness, in a sense of going along with the speed of radiation, the pattern of radiation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2046.0,2097.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Is there a clean, egoless anger?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that sounds like compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2097.0,2111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: Could you discuss the use of sexual energy in a-- for spiritual development? [Laughter; chatter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the whole point is that... you see there are certain moral judgment comes in this particular subject. If you look at a very rational point of view, that anger is the ultimate rejection, repelling; and putting anger into practice is destroying, killing. And desire, passion, is magnetizing, grasping; and the ultimate expression of that is sexual experience. So from rational point of view that we could say that if you recommend sexual experience also part of the spiritual path, then murdering somebody is also part of spiritual path. I mean if you look at from rational point of view this both apply, it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nBut this is not quite so from a point of view of the nature of the true aspect of emotions. The other emotion, aggression, is destroying; is ultimate rejection that of uncompassionate act. And desire and passion is compassionate act -- at least it's accepting something, although it has all sorts of it's higher point of neurosis of course involved with it. So that's the fundamental principle of compassion, love, passion are associated in one situation together. And of course sexual experience could be seen therefore from that point of view of act of communication beyond word. Or on the other hand it could be said also act of communication, not knowing how to speak in terms of word, which is confusion. Well, that very much depend on individuals. But at least there is hope in terms of sexual experience, opposed to destroying other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2111.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Have you heard the American expression love-hate relation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, very much so.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Well apparently, there are cases when somebody loves somebody very much, and either he thinks it's not good or it's not acceptable to him, or it's not socially acceptable or something, this love can turn right away into a force of dest-- like wanting to destroy. And it make-- might have been initially very truly sincere sort of love. Then it turns to hatred and destruction sort of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's the exactly the neurotic quality of love or desire, which contains aggression in itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: It might be-- it maybe a question that was asked before had some relevance to this in that--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes. That's--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: --how to turn it otherwise and not--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, that's the--\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: --anger.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --aspect, that's the ultimate frustration, that you can't express communication. Because you can't communicate, then you rather decide to destroy it. And that's kind of ultimate frustration. Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2294.0,2385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Can you turn all that into compassion? All those aggressive feelings perhaps, like desire, like sort of move to turning it all into compassion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's not question whether can you do it or not, but it's question of seeing the situation of would it happen that way. Which needs tremendous generosity of stepping out of centralized ego of demand. It seems possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2385.0,2430.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Is the crying over somebody that you love and can't see or can't be with, is that a part of this aggression that you're talking about? You know what I mean? You might love somebody and you couldn't see them and you couldn't be with them and you miss them, and you begin to cry. Well, would that be a part of this aggression that you've just been talking about? Is that an aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Or confusion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --I suppose it depends, but there is that desperate quality. You are desperately hungry. Yeah, there's that quality which is aggression, desperation.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Is that a part of confusion too?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, could be said.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: So, well what do you do to not have this anymore? You want to stop it, you don't want to go on in pain and suffering, so what do you do to stop it? You don't just stop --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't stop the process, you can't do it, it's like trying to stop bullet going on its way.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Trying to stop what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Bullet going on its way. You can't stop the result or fruition of it, but you can prevent it only by not firing the bullet. That is the trying to see the creator of all this is in other word, self-indulgency quality of ego and working with that.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Self-indulgence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Quality of the ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Quality of ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Quality of the ego. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Again. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You see, when I get rid of my ego, [laughter] if I don't get rid of my ego--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't get rid of your ego at all on the other hand.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: But if I don't get rid of my ego, I can't be enlightened, is that right?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's not as simple as that. [Laughter] The thing is that without ego you can't attain enlightenment.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Without ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mmm, you can't attain enlightenment. So one had to make friends with ego.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh. [INAUDIBLE WORDS] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2430.0,2591.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 21]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: What about aggression which is not directed--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: A non-directed aggression? I mean there is such a thing like, sort of, something like extra energy or something, which is not directed to a situation or to a person or to yourself, but it's there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't have ultimate non-directed hatred.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Not hatred. Or you use aggression only for hatred?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aggression, whatever you like.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But is-- there is a kind of aggression which is not hatred, it just a kind of exuberance. It's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I know what you mean.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: --something you got inside, you've got to get it sort of out, get it out, but it's not hatred.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, it's like a lamp giving out light, not directed at one particular spot, but at the same time there is lamp-- there is a flame burning. And without the flame there wouldn't be light, so it's a question of dealing with the flame. But any kind of aggression or speed, whether it is directed in particular situation or whether it is abstract, it's the same thing. This could develop into anger or hatred. You see aggression is not allowing things to grow as it is but trying to force the issue, like growing vegetable with chemicals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2591.0,2698.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 22]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Rinpoche, could-- yeah I think you could do it. Could you give me sort of a structure, a structural approach to say fear, and where the intervals or gaps could be seen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You mean gaps of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Like a structural approach to fear, which seems to be a root of also-- almost everything I... To me, all of the things that we're talking about, the structure seems to come from some sort of a fear syndrome that's... And I was trying to get a-- because I've been sort of confused. I haven't followed, you know, it's muddled. And the only thing that I have got for myself was fear seems to be the feeder to all of this. And if I could see the structure clearly, and maybe where the gaps were, then maybe I could connect to all the other branches of the whole tree, sort of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's the intensity of threat, the possible threatening that could happen in term-- in order to survive the ego. The structure, natural patterns of fear started from there. But actually we don't see the threatening quality on ourselves but we only perceive that overwhelming quality of that threat.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: The what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Overwhelming quality of that threat. Which is the fear coming back to on us, bouncing back on us. I mean it's like you don't know how loud you shouted, but you get overwhelmed by the echo coming back on you. The intensity of the echo is a result of your voice.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: So the outward manifestation of the experience is the gap to look at, in a way, then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, exactly.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Actually if you can catch that as it's happening, you can almost be *with* that thing right there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Exactly, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Aha.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm. That's good one. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Ahhh... [Laughs] That's good. [Laughs] Ahhh, I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2698.0,2871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 23]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Does fear only stem because we're only seeing compartments in the passing of this life and not seeing further? If we saw further we would have no fear?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't think necessarily that could happen. Seeing others also could come from judging that you are not them, and therefore you can judge only them by your relationship as well. It's a relative thing, you know. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2871.0,2904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 24]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Could you talk about how the projection works? I mean the whole mirror idea that... who's watching who?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's a good question. Well, I mean, put it very simply: you watch mirror, and your reflection of yourself watch back you. [Laughs; laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: So then there's no one watching you but yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: But then we're back to the watcher again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER24: We're back to the watcher again.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2904.0,2957.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 25]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER25: Is the watcher-- I mean, yeah, bardo experiences seem to be sort of something that you go along with and let happen. It seems like the watcher is something to get out of.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it is watcher, it's the self-consciousness. All the six types of bardo experience we been talking are connected with watcher and peak experience of watching yourself. And possibilities of losing your grip, watcher's grip, which is freedom, which is awake state. There's ambiguousness of whether you are able to maintain your watching-- watchfulness, or whether you're going to lose your watchfulness. That kind of ambiguous quality which builds peak experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=2957.0,3010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 26]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER26: How is it possible to make friends with the ego without going astray through indulgence in ego trips?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean ego does aware-- doesn't-- is not aware of itself, generally. Whereas if you begin to aware of ego as it is, and you don't trying to destroy it, trying to exorcise it, but see it as a step. I mean each cri-- each crisis of ego is a step of its own to the understanding, to the awake state. So in other word that there is two aspect: ego's purely continue its own and would like to play its game; and ego's been seen as ego, in its true nature. Then the game of ego becomes ironical. But at the same time you don't try to reject it. This game in itself becomes step, is path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3010.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 27]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Well what do you do then? You don't reject it, you want to get rid of your ego. I don't understand the [INAUDIBLE] --\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't want to get rid of ego, that's the whole point. You don't try to get rid of ego at all, that's the whole point.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: Oh.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But you don't try to maintain ego either.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER27: Is that where a sense of humor comes in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3102.0,3129.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 28]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: How do you deal constructively with aggression directed against your own person?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How you deal...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Constructively with aggression directed against your own person?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Self-destruction.\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: No, from somebody else.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: From another person.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I suppose it's the question of not provide a target, expected target. Because when the-- when other person begin to hit you, they would automatically expect you will be there to be hit. If you are not there to be hit then he's waving his fist in the air.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [UNCLEAR: Appetizing?]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Possibility is that he could fall back. It's judo.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Well this is-- so much of the aggression's of a, let's say, spiritual cruelty type, and not providing a target is very difficult under these conditions. Somehow your own space is being invaded by the aggressor.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And you had to occupy a space.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: And your-- and this theory doesn't really solve it because you're still there and so on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Well if they begin to invade you, you could welcome them. And by welcoming them then you're invading *their* territory. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3129.0,3256.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 29]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: I've been asking myself the question \"Who am I?\" Would an appropriate answer be-- I mean a realistic type of answer be \"I am that which goes with the situation as it presents itself\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: Yeah, if I were to ask myself, which I just did, the question \"Who am I?\" [laughter] would a realistic type of answer, paraphrasing you, would it be \"I am that which goes with the situation as it presents itself\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you ask \"Who am I?\" if you don't regard as question, if you regard as a statement, then that *is* the answer.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: What I'm trying to clarify is-- [laughter] I'm still trying to clarify something about this question of the observer. Because I think what it is, where the confusion arises in me, is the value I place on it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: In that-- in other words if I'm really going with the situation as I present itself, maybe there is an observer there, maybe there isn't, but it's like the whole value I have on it is absent. It's like it was trans-- like a transcending type of action on the observer, the old habitual way I take it in maybe its significance. Maybe it's the significance or the value I place on it which confuses me. Is it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole point is that as soon as you try to get something out of something, possibility is that because you want, you wouldn't get anything in return. In other word if you want to learn, if you want to know, that means that there's something poverty-stricken about that. It's sort of ultimate hunger. And more you try to demand, less you're going to get. If one has the attitude of richness, if you ask question in other word not as-- not out of poverty, but if you ask question out of richness, with the mentality of that question just happen as statement rather than question, then answer happens in natural process.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER29: I can see I'm still trying to hang on to old baggage. From my question I can see it came out of a-- not of an acceptance of the situation as it actually is.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That's... I mean there's certain kind of seductive quality about that as well, at the same time. Occupation. Occupational therapy. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3256.0,3493.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 30]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER30: Is there a constructive aspect to aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Definitely. That's the energy. I mean that's the techniques we use in meditation. All sorts of different types of techniques, and all sorts of kind of inspirations that we use could be said as aggression -- but aggression without owner. It's not domesticated aggression. It's wild aggression, independent aggression, floats just in the air as electricity. Tremendous, powerful, and active, penetrating, which is beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3493.0,3551.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 31]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: Why didn't you answer the question about sexual energy? Somebody asked a question about how to transmute or something, sexual energy, and you didn't answer the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose it's question of actual sexual energy. If it's seen as a kind of communication, act of generosity, without a demand. Once you begin to demand then you are solidifying the space of communication where that other person are-- is not able to communicate to you at all. Whereas the openness, exchange, takes place freely as it is in the open sense, generosity, and that's what's called a dance.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But what if you can't express it for some reason, I mean it's not possible for social reasons and for other reasons?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you learn from that, I suppose.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: [INAUDIBLE WORDS] What is *your* approach? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, you can't change the whole situation because you want it. I mean, you see, there is no magic in this sense. If you're thirsty in the middle of a desert, you can't just miraculously present water to you. It is a situation that impossible. Only thing to do is you could work with it and learn from it, and in the future, next time, probably you have very profound idea of what thirst is. It's tremendous impact on you, then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3551.0,3667.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 32]\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I get from all this that you should be rich and not hungry. But I'm rich and hungry at the same time. How are you going to jump over there? Or how am I going to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How you going to do what?\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: How am I going to jump over the hurdle of feeling rich and hungry at the same time? And be able to jump over and be rich and forget about my hunger and poverty? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the point is you don't forget your hunger, your poverty, when you're rich.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: You don't forget your--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I mean otherwise there's no richness at all. There's no criteria anymore. Richness is comparative to poor.\r\n\r\n\r\nCYRUS CRANE: I don't think I understand.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole point is that if you're rich, how much you're rich is depend on how poor you are *not*. Isn't it? So you work along with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3667.0,3752.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 33]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER31: Passion and compassion, is there a relationship? What is the relationship?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the relationship is compassion contains wisdom, intelligence, awake beyond neurosis. And passion contains neurosis and sleep, dullness. That's the exactly the same thing what we been talking about transmutation of sexual energy.\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: But they're both at the same time there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: If you what?\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: I think both-- if they are both at the-- on the same time there, in the same situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER32: Do you mean can you make love if you've got compassion? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nLILLA KALMAN: You can both see at the same time. At least I do.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well then it's like bardo experience of reaching peak point of whether you are passion, bounded by passion, or whether you are about to awake in the compassion. And only way to do is... I suppose communicate with those experiences. Particularly try not to off-balance passion into compassion, compassion into passion. But if you are properly communicative and able to perceive situation as it is, then neither compassion or passion exists. So it's free, open space.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER33: But then you're awake?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I think when we talk about it, there are two things at same time, is that we are talking about polarities. And if we don't have criteria as such, for or against anymore, then that is ultimate awake. Or you could say ultimate compassion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3752.0,3885.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 34]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: Where does, in this talk of sexual energy, the state of orgasm relate to asleep or awake? The passion or compassion?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I suppose both, depends on the background. It could be said both. The same thing as any kind of physical contact is either that of ultimate possessiveness, which coming through, or ultimate openness which is awakening. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER34: So there is a difference right there between passion and compassion. One desires possession, and the other just gives of itself with no... and is satisfied in the act, in the actual...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well there is-- I mean if you saw as independent things, there is. Whereas if you saw as polarities, there isn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3885.0,3947.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 35]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Is-- can aggression be used as skillful means, like Marpa did with Milarepa?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's happening all the time. Sure. I mean that kind of aggression is very accurate aggression, like Marpa's aggression. He never misses opportunity or chance. It's very accurate, very efficient, because aggression contains wisdom, like compassion contains wisdom. It's sort of awake aggression, always applicable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3947.0,3995.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 36]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Could we say that there are two kinds of compassion, perhaps a self-centered passion, which normally sounds like bad, and kind of like a free passion, which again I think going back to the story of Christ changing-- chasing the moneylenders from the temple. The one is self-centered and the other is just an open expression of energy or of feeling.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's I suppose what we are talking about, passion and compassion, which is a different way of using word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: Because it sounds like passion itself is something bad then. You know, to be avoided. And which if we could, we should be compassionate. There seems to be \"shoulds\", you know. Maybe-- you know--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I mean on the other hand, unskillful compassion could be said as passion as well.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER35: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's a different way of using words. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=3995.0,4047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 37]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: What about refraining from passion or anger or any of the emotions? Does that lead to a greater awake state, or is that just another trick of the ego and the watcher?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say trick. You see \"refraining\" is very vague term. whether you refrain the actual act,--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER36: Yeah, the act [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --or whether you fundamentally work with it. But refraining is also-- or is a suppression, as well as putting into practice is also suppression, also escape. So the ultimate meaning of \"refraining\" is not sowing seed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=4047.0,4099.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72330/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we begin again?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=4099.0,4107.54608"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710723VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ORIGINAL SLATE: This will be\nChogyam Trungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=1.5,6.04"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar on\nThe Six States of Bardo,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=6.04,8.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in Allenspark,\nColorado, in July 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=8.0,13.29"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This will be the eighth lecture,\nentitled Bardo Experience\nin the Hell World, July 23rd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=13.29,18.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"NOTE: This talk began with\nTrungpa Rinpoche hidden from the\naudience by a large folding\nmirror which had been placed in\nfront of his seat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=18.52,24.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hell.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=24.58,41.962"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"NOTE: The mirror was\nremoved piece by piece as the\ntalk 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deliberate","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=63.45,73.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and basic aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=75.59,83.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That aggression\nof trying to work\nthe opposite of patience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=83.44,97.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when we talk\nabout patience,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=100.69,104.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it usually means\nbeing extremely kind and cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=104.83,121.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But somehow patience\nseem to have a different","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021#t=121.1,123.33"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/138133/file/256021/transcript/72331/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"meaning than that of\njust keeping your 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