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These neurotic problems -- ignorance, aggression, pride, passion, and jealousy -- exist because of \"the watcher.\" The watcher is born from constantly trying to maintain ego's existence and make something eternal out of impermanence. So these five samsaric patterns are handles to prove our existence. In order to work with these patterns, we have to develop a sense of the textures of each one. Essentially, we're trying to expose the hypocrisy and scheme of the samsaric mandala so it can be workable."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Orderly Chaos","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: ORDERLY CHAOS: Part 1, Chapter 4: The Watcher's Game\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/orderly-chaos-1128.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book ORDERLY CHAOS)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 05 2023 to Apr 14 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Blaire Martin\nFinal Proof: Anne Seidlitz\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About how the five samsaric patterns, or neurotic aspects of the five buddha families, take place in the confused mandala. These neurotic problems -- ignorance, aggression, pride, passion, and jealousy -- exist because of \"the watcher.\" The watcher is born from constantly trying to maintain ego's existence and make something eternal out of impermanence. So these five samsaric patterns are handles to prove our existence. In order to work with these patterns, we have to develop a sense of the textures of each one. Essentially, we're trying to expose the hypocrisy and scheme of the samsaric mandala so it can be workable."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar entitled Mandala of The Structure of Unconditioned Energy, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number four, August 24th, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: On the mandala, Tail of the Tiger, August 1972. Talk four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=0.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The question involved with our discussion yesterday, in connected with the five types of samsaric patterns, there seem to be something more than that, purely just stating things as five heavy-handed existence unrelated with each other. In other word, that question arises that there is a feeling of proceeding to such situation, how this process is occurred. How and why the five types of eccentricity or confusion it occurred is very important to know. Not in the sense of how to solve the problem, as such, but why it is so, in terms of how the function takes place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=27.0,119.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not trying to relate with it as a way of solving our problems. But at this point, if we discuss this mandala situation, that we have to bring together that how the problem does exist and why problem does exist. Not because how we could get rid of it, but the problem is inescapable situation, that we can't get rid of it. It seem to deep-rooted into our grain of individual style completely. And from that point of view, that I would like to present the active force, which relates with basic being and that of basic style of five types of samsaric nature which we discussed yesterday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=119.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when we talk about basic being here, that kind of basic being has an element of clarity, in a sense of not expecting anything at all, none whatsoever, but waiting to relate with next situation. Along with that, there's also sense of security, would like to captivate [capture] something, would like to make whole thing into a record, or workable situation in order to maintain ego's existence. That workable situation that you deliberately manufactured out of the nothingness, out of the open-minded situation, is called, known as the watcher. It is called a watcher because you are not satisfied with yourself, and therefore, that we try our best to satisfy ourself. It's kind of self-ended, dead-end way of surviving itself. In order to maintain oneself, one knows the limitations of maintenance. And because we know the limitations of maintenance, therefore we try to maintain something further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=200.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Constant situation there is almost like the situation of trying to fight death. Knowing that death comes pretty soon, very close, but not accepting the death and trying to make a living out of death. In fact, the whole samsaric structure we could say is that the meaning of samsara and its seductions are based on the idea of make something eternal out of impermanence, out of transitoriness. So one could twist one's logic, one begin to realize there is a transitoriness of everything all the time happening. Things cease to exist because things be born, and so forth. But trying to make that into eternity. And the reason why it is, in the Buddhist tradition that we don't talk about soul as a continual entity as such at all. Reason why that we don't talk about that is because it's ultimate hypocrisy -- of believing in the nonexistence as something that does exist, or believing in the transitoriness as something that continual situation. That is the watcher. That watcher tend to validate its existence out of false, and trying to manufacture falseness as truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=320.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That believing the eternity seem to be the core of the matter altogether and existence of five types of samsaric mandala, altogether. Is that we see a texture of vajra-like aggression, or for that matter, we see the texture of ratna-like enrich-ness. In order to maintain the texture, and in order to prove that there is something happening, that we have to develop certain way of seeing the texture. And that that particular texture consist of gaps, unconditional gaps and conditional points. It's like an enlarged photograph with-- you begin to see the grains in the film. That both the grain and the space between the two are constituents of the existence of that particular photograph. That we trying to convert unconditional space is into conditional dots, points. Consequently, we have our own style of looking that way; that is to say, such as like the idea of aggression of vajra, or pride of the ratna, or the passion of padma, or jealousness of the karma, and stupidity of the buddha, whatever. That one try to hold onto some*thing* out of nothing at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=444.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we say out of nothing, it isn't wish-- not wishful thinking that saying that confusion doesn't exist. But confusion does exist because it doesn't exist. It becomes very, very-- needs very careful thinking, very careful way of working out, because things are so as it is because we want to be so. And reason why it is so is because we don't-- we feel that there might be possibilities of not being so. So in other word, this space that we've been talking about, unconditional space, from our point of view of ego, is the fear of losing your ground. At the same time, it is a primordial ground which has nothing in it at all to make itself into conditional. And because of that, we find some way of distorting the truth into some*thing* that we could hang onto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=589.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seem to be extraordinary subtle and very basic. In fact, this is the whole point, that how we distort the sense of nirvana into samsara, rather than that nirvana, samsara stand as opposed situation of two polarities. And whole approach becomes very neurotic, almost to the point of schizophrenia. And the whole problem arises from the point of view of looking for handle, looking for crutches, and looking for a point of reference to prove that we do exist. And therefore, we have our own styles of vajra-like, ratna-like, whatever -- all these anger-like qualities and passion-like qualities, jealous-like qualities, or stupid-like qualities, whatever. And all these things that we put out is the handle that we want something to put on. We would like to be saved. We could prove our existence by presenting that particular basic principle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=665.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this point of experiencing the texture, or the experience of the watcher, is the vital living force of samsaric mandala. Experiencing, in this case, being you have projections set up and a projector. And both projections and projector work together, and trying to point out its existence are valid thing. So each situation confirms its existence. Projections does exist because of its projector has its definite ideas, and the projections does exist because its existence proves that projector is a valid thing, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=778.0,858.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other word, whole game of samsaric mandala is gigantic syndicate of hypocrisy that had ever could think out in whole world. It thought out itself, its scheme, and everything, spontaneously -- ape instinct. But it happens to be extraordinarily larger scale, very much so that we could run whole world -- not only this globe, but whole universe out of this scheme. Such scheme is outrageous, so much so that it is inspiring. It is inspiring because a limited mind could extend itself into limitless, which is absurd, but still does exist. And of course, it could also give birth of nirvana's notion of mandala as well. Due to this watcher and due to this particular hypocrisy, deception, that other alternatives also begin to create by itself -- which we're going to discuss the day after tomorrow maybe. We discuss about that whole game that does exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=858.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the point that why we're here together and discuss the whole thing, is to expose the hypocrisy, to expose the game, so that at least that game becomes clear and obvious and becomes workable situation. Could have discussions on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=972.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: What's the difference between the watcher and disciplined spontaneity that you spoke about the other day?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In case of watcher, that there is a sense of referring back to your end result. That you evaluate each step, each move. And spontaneous discipline does not care about end result, but it exists because of its own basic situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1011.0,1067.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, could you say something more about the confusion then, what kind of thinking goes into the confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What kind of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What kind of thinking goes into knowing that it exists or doesn't exist. You said there's some very careful thinking.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, careful thinking in terms of...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: In terms of confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but confusion is here, that's true. Confusion is well-thought-out pattern, in other word, in order to hypnotize itself. So in other word, you don't just get confused because that your plan is just purely chaotic, but you meant to bring chaos, from certain particular political move that exist in its own mentality, to exist its own identity. So one tend to put out certain ideas. Not only ideas, but one tend to put out a certain deliberate attempt to shield yourself from the embarrassment of your own hypocrisy, which becomes a very comfortable one. And you tend to make double-take of it, saying, \"Oh, that's not good one.\" \"That's good one; let's get into it further.\" And then it tend to become very solid one, very definite one. And because its definite qualities, one begin to find there is a kind of homey situation of that. Whenever there is doubt, you can always think that original cause, original game. And by reflecting the original game, you get completely secured by it, hypnotized by it. So you could spontaneously, perpetually go on and on that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1067.0,1223.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Why do we create this hypocrisy? So that we can give birth to the nirvana mandala?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it's like a mother who does not want to go through the pain of giving birth. But each time when there's labor pain, then she decide not to give birth. She'd rather keep her baby inside her womb. Keeping on constantly and constantly because that's more self-snug in comfortable situation. It's purely sake of pleasure, or sake of you don't want to give something out. It's sort of holding back from that sense. But consequently, that we keeps on continuing with this baby of ours all the time. It secures you, it means lot to you. You feel important because you hold another person's life. And at the same time, you be threatened by possibilities of sudden labor pain might come up again. Because of that panic, you try to maintain yourself again and again, make best to not give birth to enlightened mind, whatever. Which is very, very terrifying, painful. You have to pass something from you, you have really give something. You don't really want to surrender that. You don't really want to have to accept that you have give-- you gave birth. And that product of work is something outside of you now, and you don't want really cut umbilical cord anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: And then you create the--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You'd rather preserve it. Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So that that's when the hypocrisy comes?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hypocrisies, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But I don't see-- Rinpoche, I don't see this is comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Said what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That it is comfortable. It seems uncomfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that depends on how you look it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1223.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Rinpoche, in the first lecture, you discussed establishing a boundary to a space that we solidify by calling it \"mine.\" Does that boundary have a relation to the rim of the mandala? And what relation does the rim of the mandala have to the four gates?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, any kind of doubt could be said is the rim. That whether you want to make rim or the line the boundary as space, or you want to freeze it into solid one. It's like the hesitation to give birth, is that moment you're giving that boundary, you are freezing that boundary into solid one. So you get perpetual protection from giving birth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So the boundary of the samsaric mandala is sort of where it fails or falls apart,--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: --thus its limits.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is the point of the hypocrisy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1373.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: How do you deal with the pain of giving birth?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see, at this point we are not discussing how to deal with the pain, but we are trying to accentuate this pain does exist. We can't deal with the pain at all, unless we know the nature of the pain and its horrific aspect, imprisonment of the pain. It seem to be unnecessary to talk about, or unimportant. In fact, that has been problem all along in the past. That so much ideas been presented to how to save yourself, rather than why you should save yourself, what's the problem. So at this point, we are discussing the heavy-handedness of the whole thing, rather than how you should be saved, which comes spontaneously. Once you know the heavy-handedness, the [UNCLEAR: richness of it], completely and fully, then we have no problem how you getting out of it at all. It becomes [slapping sound] spontaneous. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1454.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The pain is not wanting to let go?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. You don't want to give another birth. In other word, you don't want to cut the umbilical cord. That's kind of-- you give birth, and you become insignificant person. By cutting off-- cutting through the umbilical cord means that you have a child who could become independent of you, from that point of cutting the umbilical cord. [The child] grows up and becoming another entity, and you become insignificant person later on. And one doesn't want to go through that thing. And one begin to, in fact, resentful about the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1525.0,1570.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: That seems exactly the same as not wanting to die [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm, precisely, yeah. I mean, having another entity, giving birth to nirvana means that you become insignificant person. And one day that the people will refer to your son or daughter as somebody else. And if they're kind enough to say that and he's the father of that person, rather his son is that, you know. This kind of fear of that you be insignificant person, sort of something in the background.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER: Can you say anything about-- SPEAKER8: Is there anything to be said? SPEAKER: No. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1570.0,1634.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82195/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The nature of samsara in the sense that it's incredible power. There's the fear-- there's all those things which make it difficult to give birth, which make it difficult to both see the hypocrisy, accept the hypocrisy, and perhaps work with hypocrisy. But why? I mean, why is it so horrible, so incredibly...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think now you begin to speak sense. You are quite right. \"Why? Why on earth?\" [Laughter] That's like mantra. The Ramana Maharshi's instruction of \"Who am I?\" If you regard that as a question, you lose the point. The idea of \"Who am I? Who am I?\" in your practice of meditation. Then if you regard that as a statement -- \"Who am I\" -- then begin to open something. Why. Why. You are not starved, but you are become rich already.\r\n\r\n\r\nWith the two kind of approaches. \"Why?\" as a question is a starvation. And \"Why\" as a statement is mentality of the rich. So if you regard that as an embryonic question, in other word, how whole thing begin, and that provides lot of space, rather than hunger. Space is not hungry situation; space is self-contained. 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Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=0.63,4.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82196/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seminar entitled Mandala\nof The Structure\nof Unconditioned Energy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=4.02,7.11"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82196/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held at Tail\nof the Tiger, 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fear--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1640.57,1647.17"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82196/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there's all those things\nwhich make it difficult\nto give birth,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804#t=1647.17,1651.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154705/file/283804/transcript/82196/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which make it difficult\nto both see the 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