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The samsaric mandala has a background of non-dualistic, unconfused mind. This is the buddha mandala, which is totality in its absolute level without a watcher. It is dharmata, the true nature of reality. Suppressing or acting out emotions are just substitute emotions. Experiencing a true emotion is to feel its texture and realize the background of totality. The buddha mandala brings basic unification. Because there's no polarity, there's no room for concepts, journey, or relationships. The total mandala is from nobody's point of view. It sustains the universe and kills everything at the same time."]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Orderly Chaos","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 06"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: ORDERLY CHAOS: Part 1, Chapter 6: Totality\u003cbr\u003e\n-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/orderly-chaos-1128.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\n\nBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 6 (in contained book ORDERLY CHAOS)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["Jul 16 2023 to Jun 18 2025\nTranscribing: Ella Milligan\nChecking: Blaire Martin\nFinal Proof: Leandra Ziegler\nOther Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1972"]}}],"summary":{"en":["About the relationship between the samsaric and buddha mandalas. The samsaric mandala has a background of non-dualistic, unconfused mind. This is the buddha mandala, which is totality in its absolute level without a watcher. It is dharmata, the true nature of reality. Suppressing or acting out emotions are just substitute emotions. Experiencing a true emotion is to feel its texture and realize the background of totality. The buddha mandala brings basic unification. Because there's no polarity, there's no room for concepts, journey, or relationships. The total mandala is from nobody's point of view. It sustains the universe and kills everything at the same time."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/806/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754166573","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1754166560_19720826vctr1-audio-prod-ctiautormstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":3015.91506,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/283/806/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1754166573","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/283/806/original/1754166560_19720826vctr1-audio-prod-ctiautormstr-access.mp3?1754166561","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3015.91506,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720826VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19720826VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Karme Choling - Mandala: The Structure of Unconditioned Energy - Talk 6]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Seminar entitled Mandala: the Structure of Unconditioned Energy, held at Tail of the Tiger, Vermont. This is talk number six, August 26, 1972. This is an ARP digital remaster made October 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on the mandala, Tail of the Tiger, August 1972, talk six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=0.0,33.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Since we have discussed the-- some fundamentals of samsaric mandala and its functions, it will be-- might give us more ideas on that which provides further energy. Samsaric mandala provide further energy beyond samsaric level. When we talk about \"beyond,\" it is not question of getting out of it -- or even, for that matter, not transcending it in the ordinary level. But we are talking in terms of getting to the source of it, to the background of it. It is more likely way in, rather than way out. Because the samsaric natures of the mandala structure functions and contains in itself non-dualistic, unconfused, and freedom within itself. So in other word, that able to see the source of samsaric mandala, or the background of samsaric mandala, is the mandala of freedom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=33.0,173.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As we discussed at the beginning, solid space and spacious fringe. From this point of view, neither the space or the solidness are regarded as a part of a buddha mandala, but a total situation in which those two polarities could exist, could maintain itself, is the buddha mandala. In other word, some kind of environment or air in which the two polarities could maintain itself. So what we are discussing, this point, is not so much of liberation from that samsaric confusion, but the ground in which the liberation and confusion could maintain itself and also dissolve itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=173.0,244.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's another aspect we might find is that the liberation and confusion are also seen in terms of mandala pattern. But that mandala pattern, in terms of confusion and realization, are still interdependent situation, still conditioned one. So therefore, broadly speaking, that that also could be regarded as-- even the freedom, the ideas of freedom, or ideas of spaciousness, or ideas of goodness, is also part of the samsaric mandala, as well as idea of wickedness, or whatever you have. So that idea being in this case, we are not discussing a war between samsaric and the nirvana situation and defeating each other, or overcoming, or whatever. But what we are discussing, the environment in which such energy could maintain, exist. The energy which could give birth as well as death at the same time, that totality in its own absolute level without watcher, or without observer. The idea of \"dharmata\" means \"that what is,\" \"that which is,\" \"being in itself,\" \"constantly being.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=244.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all these ideas seem to be rather abstract when we just look at it from that angle. But if we look at it from practical level of day-to-day living in our lives, that we could see our, for instance, aggression or passion, or conventional piety, goodness, love. And all these things function in the basic totality of somewhere, something. That we could possibly-- we could develop possible anger, possible passion, possible ignorance. It could function somewhere. It draws out some energy and redistribute its energy, and it draws out again. And complete circle, or circulation, takes place. And that circulation, that possibility of such circulation is-- or in other word, that possibility of circulation could function or take place, is the basic totality that we are talking about -- the dharmata situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=354.0,439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact, we-- hardly it is could be said is purely connected with nirvana, which is one-sided view. Or the total awake situation, in which that we could see emotions arising and developing, but at the same time, emotions have in it unconditioned qualities in them. Because of that, emotions have their polarities and their dichotomies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=439.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like in the actual practice, that we might find, we might express our aggression, anger, by hitting someone or destroying someone or verbally being aggressive, nasty. And all these frustrated actions that coming out of our emotion is failing to realize there's a total space in which these energies functioning. So in other word, suppressing or putting into practice both are substitute emotions rather than the true emotions. Both become sedatives. Experiencing perfect emotion, or true emotion, is to realize its background totality in the midst of whole space, that there are emotions functioning, happening. And at that point, one begin to experience the flavors of the emotions, the textures of the emotions, temperatures of it. One begin to feel the living aspect of the emotions, rather than frustrated ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=479.0,590.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frustration automatically means, in this case, is stagnation -- that you want to give birth, but at the same time, that you can't give birth. And therefore, you scream, trying to push out, trying to burst out. Because something is not quite there, but yet at the same time, something is quite happening. A sense of un-accomplishment, a sense of something is wrong totally with the emotional level. Which is failing to see the totality of the whole thing, which is the mandala principle of Buddha mandala, whatever you like to call it. I prefer to not use the \"nirvana mandala\" as a term, because it has its element of dichotomy of the war between the two, samsara and nirvana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=590.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not only emotions, but in terms of daily-life situation as well at the same time. That we have experience of seeing things as they are in its own fullest sense. The blueness of a sky or the greenness of the field, which does not need confirmation, or also does not need a sense of extraordinary appreciation. Because they are *so*, so one doesn't have to reassure because they are so. When one begin to realize the basic totality of the whole situation, then perceptions become extraordinarily vivid and precise, because they are not colored by fundamental conventionality of believing in something particularly at all. In other word, when there's no dogma -- there's no belief in the blueness of the sky and the greenness of the field -- then one begin to see its totality. The reason why it is much more spectacular and colorful is because we don't transmit the message of duality between the solidness and spaciousness. In other word, failing to see the sharp edges of things in precise level if we experience the solid space and hollow grasses. At the same time, that very boundary where the space meets the grass, there's a faint message is taking place, interchanging takes place. It's like the border guards of two country exchanging cigarettes to each other. Some kind of a fuzzy edge is still there. It's not black and white. It's not precise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=650.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's the same thing if we decide to give up samsara and trying to associate ourselves with allegiance to nirvana of those two polarities. Journey from nirvana's-- from samsara's area brings automatically the sense of past, or sense of that your journey, and you're making journey into some other realm, which is nirvana in this case, or goodness, whatever you like to call it. And that sense of achievement in itself becomes an expression of samsara or hang-up, because you're still involved with the directions. So that's why there's no black-and-white world. As far as the dualistic world is concerned, both samsara and nirvana, until one is able to get a total basic mandala, there is a faint exchange is taking place. In other word, nothing is seen precisely, clearly. Before you see black as black and white as white, there is a grayness of very faint and subtle transparent grayness communicate the borderline between black and white.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=833.0,923.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is of course what we discussed yesterday, the frivolousness and sense of security and discursive thoughts and metaphysical philosophical concepts, or whatever that there is. They are not definite metaphysical, philosophical concepts or definite emotions, but it's like the smell of a broken perfume glass, perfume bottle. Still contains some awareness that there was perfume in that bottle although there was nothing in it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=923.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the basic mandala from the point of view of awakened state of mind does not need any lineal transmission to make up its mind to see as it is. That is why in the tantric tradition it is known as the transmutation. That lead is changed completely, absolutely into gold without a trace of lead, totally and completely changed. It's black-and-white situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=964.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not so much of a leap, or jump -- we might-- could misinterpret that again. If it becomes a leap or jump, then again there's a sense of journey forward. In fact, this whole principle, if we could use the word \"leap\" or \"jump\" which has been used in the books, there is a particular Tibetan term called la da wa,” “la da.” “La da wa” means-- \"la\" means top of ridge, pass; “da wa” means \"going beyond it.\" So you don't just go beyond the ridge, but you go beyond ridge of itself. So in other word, you don't leap forward; but you find you are taking necessary actions towards leaping, and realizing that you don't leap forward, but you have leap backward. That you find yourself that carpet is pulled under your feet already. So at that point journey becomes unnecessary. The notion of leap in itself becomes unnecessary. If there is \"leap,\" that is also concept, idea. That's walking on solid space from that point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1015.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in this point, that one might find that this basic totality of mandala is extraordinarily terrifying. That there's no ground, there's no journey, there's no even effort. And even you can't deny it, because you discover it. So even one can't put into terms and ideas. Self-destructive situation of ego find its own self-creative situation at the same time simultaneously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1110.0,1151.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The totality of a mandala from that sense brings basic unification. Which again, comes in five parts, as we discussed the other day, on the four types of samsaric setups including the one in the middle. But before we get into such details, I would like to make sure that everybody knows, as far as word can convey, or concept could convey, that what we are discussing is not so much of structures and qualities or diagrams or interrelatedness particularly at all. What we are discussing, this point, is complete totality which does not depend on the expressions or its manifestations, or anything. It's whole because space and the fringe are always simultaneously there, everywhere. It does not need any journey or relationships. This also act as the sustainer of confusion, or samsara, as well as its counterpart of nirvana, inspiration of nirvana. But this process of basic mandala is simultaneously death and birth, simultaneous death and birth. It is creative as well as it is destructive at the same time, in every one moment, fraction of a second, or whatever you like to call it -- beyond time and space. Because the reason why it is, there's no polarity. If there's no polarities, then it happens at once. That's why there's no room for conceptualization. Because when you formulate concepts, you give birth, and then your birth becomes old-aged and begin to die. There's no journey or lineal journey involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1151.0,1305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In certain tantric texts this is referred as \"sang thal\" in Tibetan, which means \"transparent\" or \"simultaneous penetration.\" Not from the point of view of transparent of somebody else's view, as though you're standing behind a glass window; but it is from the point of view of glass window itself, it is transparent. It does not need watcher anymore, because it is transparent by itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1305.0,1342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So all these ideas of the basic mandala, the total mandala, that we be discussing is on the whole is from nobody's point of view. But it is its own point of view. Therefore, it is free from birth and death, as well as it is the epitome of birth and death at the same time. That which sustains the whole universe, whole existence, as well as kills everything. And the tantric tradition, it is often referred as a charnel ground. In the iconography called charnel ground, there is the sage of the charnel ground and the river of charnel ground and the tree of charnel ground and the pagoda of the charnel ground, in which that expression of birth and death takes place simultaneously, of skeletons dancing and wild animals tearing bodies. While somebody else chases them, they drop the bodies, loose legs and loose arms, loose heads. And while one wild animal is chewing one part of a body, the more powerful animal comes and eat at another person, its tail. It's simultaneous birth and death at the same time. Trying to run away from life at the same time-- by trying to run away, it also creates its own death at same time. It's very gloomy and very terrifying. It's nothing pleasant, particularly. Provided if you look at from somebody else’s point of view, it becomes extraordinarily unpleasant. But from the point of view of its own, it is self-existing, extraordinarily rich and fertile.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we could discuss the five buddha principles tomorrow maybe. And we should get into this more today, have a discussion or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1342.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You're talking about these conceptions as being beyond conception. Is it possible that these ideas are also empty, that they're transparent?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ideas, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Any idea, any conception, is also a buddha principle?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, equally so. It's self-destructive, self-affirmation at the same time. That's why it is possible to describe and talk about it, because it doesn't mean anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1476.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, could you say something more about the other two lubricants, so-called, you were talking about yesterday? Entertaining, and I don't remember the third one.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Aggression.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Aggression?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think they are-- there's no point in going into great detail of those, because the whole point is being that creating some kind of excuse, or way of creating its link between space, like the circulation of body, like the vein and like muscles. While the basic body is functioning, that these muscles have to keep up their circulation. So, I mean, one can imagine all kinds of little discursive thoughts, little games that goes on constantly, either trying to advance or grasp, or else trying to escape from it, or at same time, trying to relax in between the two. And that kind of mind's game goes on constantly, so that's the whole point. It is lubrication rather than it is basic principle, like the five types of basic principle that we discussed. It is intermediary on all those situations. Which includes, like, the frivolousness and also which includes the certain cynicism and attitude to the world, attitude to life, attitude to poetry, art, so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1512.0,1633.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: There's something called a three-fold mandala. What is that? What does that mean?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Something called what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Three-fold mandala.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Three- fold mandala?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where did you read it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: It's in Gampopa's writings.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gampopa?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: In [THE] JEWEL ORNAMENT OF LIBERATION?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: No, it's in another one.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Which another one?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Peace after the Gurus.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Oh, I see. It's the subtle approach to mandala, which we will discuss tomorrow. But it's connected with totality of universe, totality of physical existence as also part of the mandala body, and that psychological state also being part of the mandala principle. In other word, the mind, body, and the world that you live in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1633.0,1718.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LAURA: Is the center of the wheel of life like the charnel ground? And is it opposite to the samsaric mandala? I don't understand the relationship there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Center?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED LAURA: Of the wheel of life, is that the charnel ground?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I wouldn't say that. The idea of Yama itself, which carries the wheel of life, is the birth and death simultaneously. Or the whole totality, rather than the source of energy. It's the energy where-- it's the situation where energy could exist itself, rather than particular point or particular volitional action.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1718.0,1758.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Is more and more realization of entrapment, is that relevant to anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm not sure what you are asking for, but it sounds like it is more relevant to samsara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1758.0,1782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is it possible to have a vague experience of this totality? It seems as though there is some kind of feeling of this totality that exists all the time. But it's very vague, because if you try to watch it or grab onto it, it dissolves away.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is so. Because that vague sense is the sense of un-security, in the sense of the wrongness, something is wrong, something not quite right. Because that fundamentally, there's no definite ground anymore. There's no solidness to dwell on. And that's the mystical experience of the ultimate meaning of \"duhkha,\" some-- \"duhkha,\" \"pain,\" \"suffering,\" comes from. Of course suffering could be said as just literal suffering, you know, discomfort, and begin to find meaninglessness of materialistic pleasure and whatever. But there's something more than that. The fundamental, that one can feel something, and one can't make up your mind whether it is something for or against us, but there's something going on. That's the tendency. Or that also could be said as that of the buddha nature, in fact. That something is cooking up. [Laughter] But one can't put your finger on it or you can't create it. I mean, that's the potential of the whole thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Does that disappear as you experience it more often, the insecurity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well if you try to make it as a basis of security, then it doesn't exist anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1782.0,1896.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You said that experiencing your point of view towards nirvana and the samsaric mandala is good, but you used the word of \"expression.\" That when expression takes place, that it's meaningless. Is that the verbal expression of your point of view?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, the last point that you made before we started discussing, you mentioned that just experiencing your point of view of the samsara and the nirvana was good, to just experience it. But during your talk you used the word \"expression\", and I picked up a negative vibe from the word \"expression.\" That that was samsaric, that it was not necessary or that it was--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, yeah. I see what you mean. Basically any form of experience -- experience meaning a sense of a reference point in which you can reject or accept. In other word, you can't have experience without those situations, pleasurable or painful situations. You can't have just a neutral experience at all. And that is the extreme experience or the biased experiences that you have is the part of the chaos. And these kind of chaos, chaotic experiences being systematically put into workable situation by religious practitioners for the sacred books, holy books, whatever.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: That you should put them...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That you should put certain things into a category of good and certain things we should put in the categories of bad. It's approach towards God or approach towards satan. But on the whole, that we are not discussing which is valid, which is not valid. But whole thing has no substance in it. You see, when we talk about--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The comparison has no substance?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, because it is dependent on the other point of view.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: So the point of view is not important either. The vagueness is almost more important than the point of view because--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: From that point of view, yeah. [Laughter] Yeah, yeah. I mean, the sense of spaciousness or sense of--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yeah. It's better to then--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --totality in other word.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: --yeah, remain vague rather than define it, or take a point of view that needs to be expressed?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I wouldn't just say purely remain vague, alone. But in other word, if you remain vague, from a very subtle point of view of not having reference point, then that vagueness becomes very lively, becomes luminous in fact. So instead of being vague and gray, it becomes dazzling.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Oh yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And becomes somewhat definite, but not definite from the point of view of polarities. But it becomes in its own innate nature, because there's no watcher involved. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1896.0,2127.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: When you talk about the hollow grass and the solid space and that grayness in between, I didn't understand that in-- perhaps in reference to this vagueness too.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, I don't think this is this kind of vagueness exactly. But this is kind of conceptual way of vagueness, in which that you can't make up your mind. You have to have allegiance at both ends. In other word, you are depend on hope as well as you depend on fear, and you want to keep your foot in both situations.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Hope that the grass is there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And fear that it isn't?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Fear If-- may not happen, but still there is some possible way of twisting around the fear.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: That what may not happen?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's a very cunning game.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: So the grayness comes from our own oscillation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, very much so. Or more likely, deceptive sense of community, deceptive attitude of cooperation, coexistence, rather than aloneness.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And that's kind of midway between having a solid grass and an empty space?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And the third alternative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sense of allegiance to somewhere, something. But it's equally very confused. The reason why it is gray is because watching yourself makes everything lubricated between the hollow space and the solid grass -- or the other way around, whatever. The commentator makes everything comfortable. That you don't have to make a sudden entrance to anything. It's like you fly from one country which is cold in airplanes which is air-conditioned, and you land in another country which is probably very hot, but still traveling in an airplane which is air-conditioned. Which makes situation bearable that you don't have to go through sudden change. Everything is made hospitable as much as possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2127.0,2263.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But that makes the buddha state of mind extremely uncomfortable then.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not at all, because there's no watcher. It's being itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But you said it's the watcher that makes things comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As well as paranoid at the same time, but intend to make it comfortable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: I see.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, state of a buddha's mind is not concerned with any of those, so whole big area has been taken away. So economically, it's very cheap. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2263.0,2305.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: How can we see this charnel ground in our own experience? Is that just simply what Laura was saying, or is there some-- is it more in our own experience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's the sense of threat that everybody experience-- most people experience. That you are on the verge of freakout or losing your ground, trying to, you know, keep grips with our enemies and friends, make sure that they're enemies and friends. That we don't confuse between the two, and want to make the whole thing definite. That in itself becomes very painful, uninviting somewhat.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean, whole thing is what we -- as Buddhists, anyway -- we can say almost, what we are trying to do is we are trying to approach the area that nobody wanted to get into. [Laughter] People try to run away from it all the time, and we have created samsara. And as long as you are on the path, you're practicing and developing, and we are doing the impossible thing. And we are trying to approach towards that thing, millions of years that we've been rejecting. We find it extremely discomforting, and we're going towards it, exploring it. I mean, that's why it is so painful to give and open, you know. That kind of unwanted place it's like charnel ground. It's haunted all over the place; it's not just one place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2305.0,2402.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It seems to be a state where there's the most possibility of transformation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah. Needless to say. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Can you say something about the pattern of the mandala, just as a shape, as a pattern, rather than what it contains? I know this is very imprecise, but what makes it so extraordinary to see the whole thing as a mandala, rather than as just statements of fact like any other religion or system does?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, the whole point is that one begin to see the whole totality of the whole area. That one begin to have an extraordinary panoramic vision without boundary. And one can afford to associate with particular energies, particular directions then, because your basis of working situation, that mandala, is not based on a sense of directions anymore. Therefore, you have directionless directions. In other word, it's entirely new approach from-- for time and space. You can approach time because it's timeless; you can approach the space because it's spaceless. It is directions because there's no direction at the same time, which opened tremendous possibilities of another way of looking at the whole thing. And at the same time, of course, there's no reference point, therefore you can't keep track of it. If you want to keep track of it, it would become comparable to wanting to attend your own funeral party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2402.0,2523.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: So if I'm understanding without reference, without conception, just direct association with that energy, the connection point is so close that it's, like, absolutely dynamic, because you're inside of it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, yeah. Mhmm. Because there's--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: But you could still call it understanding. You have--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can vary, but we have to call it something.  This is random word-- you can call it \"water,\" \"shit,\" anything you'd like to call it, or understanding of wisdom. Whether it's noun or verb or adjective, it doesn't make any difference from that point of view. It's just a... [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It's so close that there can't be any time gap.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yet at the same time, it's so spacious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Understanding implies movement of some kind, and any kind of thought implies movement. It's faster than anything.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I mean, if you relate that way, you have no understanding.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: It's instantaneous, like instantaneous enough to experience the whole universe at once.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, it's simultaneous: ignorance and wisdom at the same time, birth and death at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Makes the speed of light look very slow.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Extraordinary. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2523.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Rinpoche, would it be possible to view the totality of the situation like a field upon which there's a football game? And there's \"this\" and \"that,\" and it's like, you know, a game between God and the devil, nirvana and samsara. And that the panoramic, sort of has a pointless point of view from the ground position. It sort of shoots God and the devil out of the saddle at the same time. If that's possible? [Laughter] It feels like you have an-- it shoots off a [INAUDIBLE] maximum.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's right, yeah. That sounds good one. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Is that prajna?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Prajna?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, that's jnana. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Jnana.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Prajna is still a watcher. And prajna would be like a panoramic television camera approaching from the point of view of space, whereas jnana is from point of view of the ground itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2613.0,2695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Rinpoche, I've been listening to your tape on the bodhisattva path. And the comparison comes into my mind between the lineal character of the progression through the bhumis and the situation you're now describing, in relation to the mandala. But my understanding of the bodhisattva path is that that too is a sense of directionless direction. That the stages are to be gone through, but in a sense also one is always where one is at any one moment--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: --no matter where one is in the stages.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well the point of bodhisattva's approach is that experience has a sense of nowness each time. That if you're on the seventh bhumi to eighth bhumi, that sense of accomplishment doesn't play important part, but almost point of view-- some point of view, that bodhisattva is just hanging out in the seventh bhumi and one day he finds himself in eighth bhumi. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: So he finds himself there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He finds himself rather than he has been told or he has received a certificate. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2695.0,2798.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, the samsaric mandala where everything is so neatly divided and compartmentalized into these five segments by, it seems to me, possibly lines or barriers between the segments. What do these barriers refer to in terms of the functioning of the ego? Do they refer to anything?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's the watcher -- the sense of intellect or sense of watcher. And all the time we would like to refer back to our central headquarter to make everything functionally lubricated. And it's sense of the attitude in which that you are dependent on survival is your motto: \"We have to survive.\" In order to survive, we have to do these things. And there's tremendous threat for death, thinking that we are constantly creating birth. Which is, of course, from another point of view, you're creating birth-- death at the same time. So it defeats itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2798.0,2871.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Rinpoche, when you were talking about orderly chaos, was that as -- and orderly being disciplined and chaos being the energy that's happening at that point -- were you talking about that as the approach to what we're speaking of today, an approach to how one-- an approach to the total ground, of which everything is happening? And it's-- I don't know, discipline implies-- I don't know, discipline and then sort of discipline being coupled with being able to see simultaneously birth and death all-- you know, all happening at once, and yet discipline implies...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I think it's both. That you are in a situation to understand or experience the orderly chaos, is the discipline itself. But as far as relationship to orderly chaos is concerned, it's something extraordinary organic. That there is a totality which takes care of the chaos which puts things into situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: Do you take care of the discipline or is the discipline already there?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discipline is already there. Like discipline is, say, like a refrigerator, on the whole. That ordinary chaos that goes on inside the refrigerator is the chaotic things of -- there's so many things in the refrigerator. But orderliness is that refrigerator breathes cold air in it. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=2871.0,3005.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82199/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to stop at this point. [Laughter] Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=3005.0,3015.91506"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19720826VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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Vermont.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=7.41,9.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk number six,\nAugust 26, 1972.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=9.54,14.77"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an ARP digital remaster\nmade October 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1649.2,1650.52"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where did you\nread it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806#t=1650.52,1653.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/154707/file/283806/transcript/82200/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4: It's in\nGampopa's 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