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Realization of shunyata through the practice of six paramitas, which is always based on fundamental realization of impermanence and nonexistence of self. The juncture between sutra and tantra teaching as including both shunyata realization, or basic suffering and emptiness of life, and nondualistic wisdom, inspiration. From basic bewilderment, development of duality and ego from infancy; ego as a continuity that is based on the discontinuity and insecurity of experience. Much of this talk is in discussion format.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part Two, Chapter 4: Juncture of Sutra and Tantra\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eApr 23 2025 to Nov 28 2025 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Nancy Roberts Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eContinuing with mahayana, also known as the bodhisattva yana, the third of the nine yanas. Realization of shunyata through the practice of six paramitas, which is always based on fundamental realization of impermanence and nonexistence of self. The juncture between sutra and tantra teaching as including both shunyata realization, or basic suffering and emptiness of life, and nondualistic wisdom, inspiration. From basic bewilderment, development of duality and ego from infancy; ego as a continuity that is based on the discontinuity and insecurity of experience. Much of this talk is in discussion format.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766090401_19730521vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3"]},"duration":1838.58706,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/060/original/1766090401_19730521vctr1-audio-prod-cticustrmstr-access.mp3?1766090402","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":1838.58706,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730521VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730521VCTR1 - Public Seminar - San Francisco - The Nine Yanas I - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled The Nine Yanas I, held in San Francisco, California. This is talk number four, \"The Juncture of Sutra and Tantra,\" recorded on May 21st, 1973. This is a CTI custom remaster made May 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=0.0,32.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that what we are discussing tonight is continuing what we discussed the other day, about proceeding from hinayana level to the mahayana level, and its perception of reality as such. But at the same time, that I would like to make-- re-emphasize the notion of egolessness, and impermanence, suffering, are predominant and prominent part of the path, in preparation to mahayana path. That the basic idea of mahayana is that we talk about realization of shunyata, by the understanding or practicing the six paramita practices that we have discussed the other day. But at the same time, that it is definite, and it is valuable to realize that the valuation of that of impermanent and egolessness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=32.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Egolessness could be approached from different angles altogether, all kinds of different angles. That nonexistence of \"self\", or self is not applicable anymore, because you've realized \"selflessness.\" But let us approach from a student's point of view at this point. Evaluement [ed: evaluation] of the self, which brings the basic practices of bodhisattva's way, to realize a sense of impermanence, and nonexistence of self.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=142.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ego is regarded as a collection of stuff, which involved with the five skandha process that we have discussed already; pure collection rather than anything else. Therefore those five stuffs or skandhas are-- depends on relative reference, that they do exist. From the point of view of impermanence, that anything that happens within that realm, of depending on self-existence, are also subject to decay and death and so forth. That life is constantly process of death and decay. Not only that but life consist-- process contains birth, death and illness, sick-ness, death, old age. Life contains fundamental bewilderment, in which that even you don't recognize the bewilderment as it is anymore at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=204.0,293.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what we're trying discuss today is that trying to understand the basic meaning of shunyata. That shunyata experience or emptiness experience could develop as basic emptiness of life, and basic suffering, *and* basic nondualistic wisdom, inspiration, at the same time. I feel it is extremely important before we discuss about the tantra, to realize the junction between tantra and sutra teaching, that could be joined together at this point. To realize what is the continuity, what is not continuity. It is very important to realize *that*. Self, ego, try to maintain itself, and develop itself and its territory.\r\n\r\n\r\nShould that be encouraged, or discouraged? Should we try to maintain our self, or should we not? What would you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=293.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who should?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I beg your pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who should try to maintain itself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So who is he?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You said should \"we\" -- who? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is \"we\" or \"who\"? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Should we try to maintain ourselves? Who is \"we\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm asking you. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who is *that*? Who *is* that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's not [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you say you don't know?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well I, you know-- [Laughter] I suppose it's \"who is that?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You suppose what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It's *who* is that. Period.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, but who isn't that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Who isn't that? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Moreover, what are you talking about? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[GAP IN AUDIO]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who are you?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I don't know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why don't you? Why?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: There's no way of answering the question.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Nothing works.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why should it work? It's not a matter of con-manship. Things doesn't have to work. Let's get [UNCLEAR: more? warm?] Why should it work? Who are you? Why should it work? Who you watch work?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It just stops.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Stops?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The questioning.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where does it stop? Where? Where?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How come you stopped there?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: I guess you can't focus anymore -- other things that happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's mutual symptom, or common symptom. That things happening *so* much so that we find whole thing's bewildering. Unable to focus on any one particular thing. The whole thing is bewildering-- bewildered. Constantly. Bewildered constantly, all over the place. So we are confused, bewildered. Subject to confusion. We are infinite of confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nWhat shall we do? Shall we stay? Trying to get some sleep? Get some food? Or shall we try to get out of it? Which means, if you're trying to get out of it, should means there's a lot of energy should put on, you have to put *in*. And you have to try to get out means that you have to create some kind of scheme in which that you can-- you *could* get out of the prison. Could we do that? Couldn't we do that? How can we do that? Do you want to get out or do you want to stay in it, to *begin* with? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's very inviting, smooth nest. Like being a worm. You could regenerate your next generation, you could maintain yourself constantly by making a worm. Or you could stick your neck out by being crocodile. Crocodile. You could.\r\n\r\n\r\nSomething coming up there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=397.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: When you ask how we get out, or do we *want* to get out, maybe just to be aware of the mess we're in.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Aware of what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Aware of confusion.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How would you get out of that? *How* would you do it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Why would you want to?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely. Why should we want to? Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=751.0,782.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's not secure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, so secure.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's *not* secure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it *seem* to be secure. Because the whole thing is set up for you. That you could swim in your embryo--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well for a while--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: --in your pretense of-- what you call? Your...?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Placenta.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Placenta. Inside of the placenta there's a beautiful swimming pools been created. You could go again and again, you could--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Yeah, it's fine, as long as it works.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to work as long as that mother eats enough food. I mean that there's no point that we don't have to come out of the womb; if we are happy, we could be there constantly, eternally. [Laughter] Mother eats appropriate food, and we get survived by the means. That from-- moreover that we get fond of swimming through the water, under-- inside of the placenta. And we feel happy, and *great*!\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But isn't that a problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That *is* a problem of course, yeah. But how do you see the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: The mother gives back to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=782.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, no, but there's a lesson obviously, like the death. But how could we maintain with that situation? We could stay there. What prevents us being staying there, in mother's womb? What prevents us? What triggers us off?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: It's overwhelming at some point?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you don't know yet. You don't know. Because you haven't been there yourself. You forgot the whole thing. When you're infant, you have no ideas of it. You have to purely guess. I mean, if the baby has a reference point, of how to relate with the open situation, *and* how to relate with the claustrophobia of being in the womb, obviously the baby is bound to come out. But since the baby had forgotten altogether about reference point, being pushed into the womb, and developed itself as an embryonic person being. So there's no reference point at that point. How would you start? How would you relate with the whole thing? How would you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=860.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is it-- is there a choice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as the baby's concerned there's no choice. It \"is so.\" That's the whole point, why there is alternative. Because there's no reference point. Absolutely no reference point.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Did we create that alternative?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I suppose so. But there's no reason for create a reference point as far as the baby's concerned.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: You can tickle a baby in the womb, can't you?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: When he puts his foot up against the skin just tickle him, in the womb. Or you can [INAUDIBLE] you know, [INAUDIBLE] respond.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's unhygienic.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: On the streets it seems.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Come back with [INAUDIBLE].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=969.0,1039.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: People make the reference points for the baby--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: The baby doesn't-- the parents or the other people make the reference points for the baby. The baby doesn't have a choice.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How? How?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: By having selves, by having egos of their own.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Make reference points for the baby, and the baby takes them on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: He doesn't have any choice, but to take them on.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That sounds interesting, yeah. How do we do that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Doctors say that the cortex hooks up with the hypothalamus. I don't know exactly how, but there's a different brain structure when he's in the womb.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah. How do we do that, a mother?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: [UNCLEAR: Tell the child how to be?]. I suppose you have to delay the pain for the baby.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's a more developed thing to-- You have related to the pain, that means you have made up your mind already. The baby has no choice. But *before* that, how do we work with his birth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1039.0,1117.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What you said about emotions being result of our projections onto the outside. The mother's has all of those, so she's already giving them to the baby, from the moment the baby's conceived. Even if the baby has no thought, he's already got the mother's--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say again with a louder voice. I can't hear--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The moth-- since the mother has her projections onto-- has a self, so her projections go out, then from the moment the baby is conceived, he or she or it is receiving those projections. Constantly.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, it seems. That's a fundamental conclusion that we come up. Is that duality happens, as you said, by demands from one extreme to another extreme; duality. Constantly happens, one extreme to another extreme. The duality not basically *set* pattern as such. But it has its momentum, to relate with one extreme another extreme. It's not pre-programmed as such, but it is related with a reference point, which create one extreme, another extreme. Which is a very important point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1117.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So there's no memory without duality?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. There's no memory without duality, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: How does-- what does Padmasambhava's saying that \"one mind is continuous memory.\" [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How did Padmasambhava say it?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: In Evans-Wentz's book, \"The Tibetan Book of Great Liberation\" [Tibetan Book of the Dead], it stated a lot that your memory is continuous. I can't quite--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's primarily in reference to vajra state: one memory, one mind. One mind. You have to attain a state of one mind, before you do that, yeah. You have to attain a state of one mind before you do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Before you get to [INAUDIBLE] the baby's [UNCLEAR: mind?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Baby has two minds, three minds, in fact: mother's, father, and self.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1210.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What happens when you see everything as discontinuous events?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You begin to see it as continuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: See *what* as continuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What's continuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Nothing. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What do you *mean* continuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discontinuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: *Dis*continuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As continuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Discontinuity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As continuity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So are you saying--?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1266.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see the whole point it seem to be, yeah, is that what we are trying to discuss is that we're probably related with the egolessness. Before we embark in the tantric principles as such, that we have to realize a sense of egolessness, because that ego is something that is continuous, but it is based on the discontinuity. Therefore ego is subject to impermanence, and the ego is also subject to pain, suffering. The three marks of existence seem to be simultaneously existing, of pain, egolessness, and suffering, are simultaneously existing.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd we can't forget the glorious bodhisattva's path, we have been discussing. That people have tremendous insight, inspirations to dance on the bodhisattva's path. But nevertheless, they should be aware of those consequences of egolessness and pain and impermanence, constantly happening same time. All the time it's happening. So *some* kind of awareness of a basic framework of Buddhism had need to be kept, same time. Which is necessary. Extremely necessary.\r\n\r\n\r\nEgo, self, [is] based on survival. And survival means relying on the time, constant time. You live on the time. Birth, death, being born, being died, again and again -- survival on your time. And because time is so much so, that it is a source of struggle and pain. So therefore the pain and time and survival based on same continuity. So life cannot exist without pain and impermanence and egolessness at the same time. Which is extremely simple logic. Extremely simple. It's very kindergarten level. Extremely kindergarten level.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you have any questions, we could talk about that very simply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1298.0,1469.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Well then is this pain based on the idea of securing something, and-- because we have to secure some kind of permanent situation, we're in pain. But there's nothing to secure, and in that understanding is the security. I mean there's just no security, but realizing that is some sort of security.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: So forth. You begin to realize egolessness with that. But you have nothing to stop yourself, or create a bank, bank of memory, or create a basic solid ground, because that your ground is subject to continual change, *and* pain. You have no ground *at all*. I mean, it seem to be very simple logic, which I hope everybody could understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1469.0,1544.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, isn't there-- I mean there seems to be an urge towards insecurity as well, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Some kind of urge towards insecurity, you know, some sort of need *not* to be secure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's very simple.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [UNCLEAR: All right?].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean then you use the same logic, all over again. And the logic [is] that death lives. Same thing. Death lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1544.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Well how does all of this tie in with the baby in the womb?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Same kind of insecurity, baby is in the womb. It's insecurity happening constantly. Therefore process happening at the same time, as you go along. Baby not gotten innocent, by no means, according to karmic situation. That you have reason to be *your* baby, of certain parents. Which is a condition, continuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1583.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: What you're saying is that pain and the knowledge of transience doesn't depend on ego. You're saying that they exist along with the hollowness of ego. Is that right? So that's when it's generated out of the ego-- the sense of pain, and the sense of transience?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't follow your logic. [INAUDIBLE] differences.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: You're saying that there is pain and this transience and there is egolessness, and these are like three facts. And I don't see how-- I don't see whether there's any different relationship between them. And I think that's what you're trying to get across. I don't know whether it's just that I don't understand, or whether it's [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pain between egolessness and impermanence?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: The relationship between the three [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And the suffering. They're linked. They are linked. You have ego, but you don't have ego. That produces apprehension, and pain. Reason why that apprehension developed altogether is because you didn't have relationship with the time. The time was not sympathetic to you, your maintaining of yourself anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1622.0,1722.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Is that why paranoia increases on-- as you--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, somewhat ego say that you exist. You think you exist. And your goal exist. But then you find in your goal-- existence of your goal need maintenance, and the maintenance is painful things to do. And so on, the point that your existence becomes questionable at the same time.\r\n\r\n\r\nI mean it's a very simple logic, you know, it's extremely simple. That's first grade level. You distinguish between the A and B and C. You can't get much beyond that, then you relate with D, E, F, [laughter] and so forth. Very kindergarten level. The reason why A is difference, because B is not something else, and C is something else. Because B is not A, and B-- C is not B and A. And you go on, you go on experimenting until we get to the X. That none of them are same as the previous ones. At the same time, they have different characteristics at the same time, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1722.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87908/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think we should stop our meeting tonight at this point. Tomorrow probably we'll discuss about tantra, hopefully. [Laughter] But I have to ask my boss. [Laughter] \r\n\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1817.0,1838.58706"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730521VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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1973.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=19.76,24.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI custom\nremaster made May 2025.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=24.2,32.16"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Seems that what\nwe are discussing 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impermanence,\nsuffering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=82.28,86.93"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are predominant\nand prominent part of the path,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=86.93,94.64"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in preparation to mahayana path.\nThat the basic idea of 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\"who\"?\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=411.81,416.18"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: Should we try\nto maintain ourselves?\nWho is \"we\"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=416.18,421.58"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I'm asking 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Nothing.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1281.16,1284.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: What do you\n*mean* continuity?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discontinuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1284.25,1288.76"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER9: *Dis*continuity?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As 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You have no ground\n*at all*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1532.15,1539.3"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it seem to be\nvery simple logic,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1539.3,1542.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I hope everybody\ncould understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1542.1,1544.91"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Rinpoche, isn't there--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1544.91,1547.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean there seems to be\nan urge towards insecurity\nas well, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1547.2,1551.55"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is there what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1551.55,1552.78"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: Some kind of urge\ntowards insecurity,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1552.78,1555.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, some sort of need\n*not* to be secure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1555.6,1560.54"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, that's\nvery simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1560.54,1563.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER6: [UNCLEAR: All right?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1563.0,1564.145"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean\nthen you use\nthe same logic,\nall over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1566.02,1574.32"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the logic [is]\nthat death lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060#t=1574.32,1578.4"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164314/file/299060/transcript/87909/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Same thing. 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