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Detailed, clear description of how ego develops, builds a fortress solidifying that space, navigates the world through confused emotions of passion, aggression, ignorance. Beginning of karmic chain reactions. End result are thoughts and emotions, and meditation begins to work with the thoughts, perimeter of ego, as way of dismantling it. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioners ask very perceptive questions about true nature of the self, including and beyond ego. Trungpa Rinpoche explains ego as a continual process, therefore there is space to enter and work with it in meditation. Emotions as not something to get rid of, but something we change our relationship to, in order to transform them into wisdom.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Future is Open"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE FUTURE IS OPEN: Chapter 5: Karma, Ego, and Buddha Nature\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-future-is-open.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eMay 08 2024 to Oct 08 2024 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Blaire Martin Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1971"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk about understanding one's psychological state as first step on Buddhist path, rather than hoping to attain something \"higher.\" Knowing how confusion and ego develop out of fear of open space, possibility that we might not exist. Detailed, clear description of how ego develops, builds a fortress solidifying that space, navigates the world through confused emotions of passion, aggression, ignorance. Beginning of karmic chain reactions. End result are thoughts and emotions, and meditation begins to work with the thoughts, perimeter of ego, as way of dismantling it. In Q\u0026amp;A, questioners ask very perceptive questions about true nature of the self, including and beyond ego. Trungpa Rinpoche explains ego as a continual process, therefore there is space to enter and work with it in meditation. Emotions as not something to get rid of, but something we change our relationship to, in order to transform them into wisdom.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. 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Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Public Seminar entitled Battle of Ego Three, given in Los Angeles, California. This is talk one, \"Structure of Ego\", given on May 29th, 1971. This is a CTI auto remaster made May 2024.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=0.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I hope this seminar could be not only learning process, but also something that we could work together in terms of practice, practice of meditation. But the practice of meditation is not so much of the study of the structure of enlightenment alone. In fact, in a sense it is quite dangerous, to talk about enlightened mind. And quite easily this could become misleading. Because the whole idea of a spiritual path is a way of transcending the ambition. And by presenting idea of meditation, and how good you could become. And how exciting it would be once you got there. And such a way of presenting teaching seems to be self-destructive in a sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=30.0,205.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That person wouldn't be able to enjoy the journey, but person would be constantly dreaming, about the goal. So once, if you didn't see the process of journey, if you don't see the process of journey as it is, then there's no value -- there's no point rather, of hoping that once you get to enlightened state, and then you can do this and that, is kind of before you start the journey you are trying to dream. In other word, waiting for the *ideal* situation, before you in fact have begun. Which is always source of problem, with everyday life situation as well. That a person would have all sorts of exciting plans or paranoid plans, and they wouldn't be able to begin. Once they tried to begin, idea of what would be is so much in the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=205.0,304.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what we seem to-- should do is find some stepping-stone, immediate stepping-stone. Or it is described as \"yanas\", or \"vehicles\"; the transportation is important. And that stepping-stone, or vehicle, yana, is the way of seeing basic psychological state of oneself. In other word, always there's question: \"Should I just begin, jump in, hope for the best? Or should I know what I'm in for?\" That's always two kind of style. Faith, and... faith in the sense of blind faith and intelligent faith; they're two types of faith that we always involve on spiritual path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=304.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Blind faith seems to be based on dream, fantasy, of how good it would be; therefore not concerned with what happen in the present moment. Or even not bother to look for stepping-stone. But intelligent faith is a scientific and critical way of seeing the path that you're trodding on, make sure that the pattern of the path, or the substance that you're working with is going to be interesting, or creative one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=413.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems that in the West, people begin to react against their style of learning at the moment, and trying to step out of scientific mind, and immediately involved with blind faith. There's something that we have to watch for that. But nevertheless a person always begun their journey, and their whole involvement into the path, is scientific one. Since nobody, for instance in this audience, are raised as Buddhist, or Hindus, as studying of Eastern tradition. In fact they may have raised, grown up in a completely contrary environment, opposite environment. But everybody came to common conclusion: dissatisfaction with materialistic life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=462.0,556.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that dissatisfaction also presented very creative vision, of \"there must be something more than this. And then we went into it, looked into it, and that's why we are together here.\" And this kind of natural process, natural open mind process that we involved, in the West seems to be extremely healthy one. So we shouldn't stop our search there. Once we have found something, then one shouldn't regard as just relief, that you found and now you can give up everything, including your intelligence, and just blind follow the path. It's somewhat still that we have to continue this pattern as we have come-- we have managed to achieved up to this level, and beyond that we have to still continue the same style. Seems extremely important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=556.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is conflict between intellect and intuition. It seems that one have to use the intellect; is way of opening ourselves to the path. And that intellect becomes real personal experience, rather than dry philosophical one. And then gradually involve ourselves with intuition, which is an actual experience, that we actually feel something from the intellect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=640.0,695.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With the idea of meditation, that we... it seems important to know something about the fundamental idea of meditation, and its application mechanism so to speak, is necessary to know. So I feel that perhaps we could go over the idea of confusion, samsaric mind, and how meditation is applied and used as a part of the pattern, part of the path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=695.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Meditation is basically unlearning process, undoing process, unwinding karmic chain reactions, which is also psychological neurosis and chain reactions of that. And it seems that basic Buddhist teachings, of learning how to meditate and learn the basic philosophy of meditation, that you must know how the confused mind operates -- the ego, the self, whatever you'd like to call it. But that evolution of ego is not something happened once upon a time, but it is continuously operating and building, constantly building, constantly operating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=744.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The same thing what we been talking about, the idea of at the beginning that we all involved with the path, starting from dissatisfaction. In other word question, embryonic question. That is to say question contains answer in itself, and we ask such question. That is-- I wouldn't say that question is confusion, but it's intelligent of something; it's basic instinct. Basic space, open space. We feel there's some kind of room. From that room and from that space, we feel that we could act out of that and therefore we ask questions. Maybe we already feel the answers in itself as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=827.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the basic questions that we ask, questions of life and teaching, whatever questions we might ask, they contain basic space as well. If whole thing is extremely overcrowded, then there's no room to move about. But occasionally we find that there are gaps in our experience of mind; there are spaces occasionally. And from those space, we feel the ripple out of pond, if we throw stone, and the ripple expand and expand, expand. It's like that -- suddenly space and inspiration pops up, and begin to ask in terms of questions, or looking into more details of the meaning of basic being. And that basic ground that we all have is, seems to be the background, the space is the what is known as the \"buddha nature\" or \"tathagatagarbha.\" That fundamental intelligence which feels the answer and therefore also asks questions. Something extremely positive about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=895.0,999.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Out of that space, basic space, then also there's a tendency of suspicion. \"Supposing if I find that there's no solid 'me'? I don't want to hear it anymore, I don't want to go into it anymore.\" There's also fear contains within that question as well. Which is also inspiration, which is also part of the intelligence. That kind of abstract fear, abstract paranoia, is a source of karmic chain reactions. And from that abstract discomfort, fundamental discomfort, of something's wrong. Something's wrong because, possibly, that you can't make any discoveries of anything. Quite possibly we may not get any answer at all. Kind of fear of ultimate confusion, which happens with us quite a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=999.0,1107.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That kind of fatalistic attitude, ultimate despair is what's the ignorant contains, consist of. Of course if you try to confirm what you are, and you want to get answer for that, ultimate answer would be that there's no one to experience any experiences at all. Because you can't accumulate understanding onto one basic solid thing. Since there's no solid thing, so you can't learn anything; that's kind of fear of absence of self, egolessness state. Which always becomes a threat to us, constantly. Possibility that there may not be ego at all, there may not be \"me\" as such at all. Which is very powerful. \"Supposing this is true, then what?\" That kind of fear, of wanting to keep some basic \"thing,\" basic solidness. And in order to keep basic solidness, that you haven't got any other material to work out of solidness. So only way you can do is the experience of space, and trying to solidify that space, trying to freeze space. That's the basic notion of ego. We experience sudden glimpse of awareness, openness, absence of self, but then the fear of that discovering absence of self completely, and we trying to hold something, and trying to freeze that absence of ego, space of that-- space that we experience, trying to freeze that. And that's the beginning of ego, the first starting point of karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1107.0,1261.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ignorance in this case is not question of stupidity, but ignorance this case is stubbornness in a sense. That suddenly we are bewildered by such discovery of selflessness, and doesn't want to accept it, and wanted to freeze, wanted to hold. That's the basic ignorance. And this case there's no relating process at all. It's sort of underdeveloped ignorance. And beyond that then what we tend to do is trying to expand that ignorance, re-establish its existence, by trying to also freeze and solidify the territory outside that experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1261.0,1327.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So your next step is then, from that basic ignorance, one tend to project some kind of fascination, trying to make the best of it -- that aloneness, loneliness. In other word trying to find a way of occupying ourselves, from that loneliness, aloneness. Where the karmic chain reaction begins. Karma is depended on, generally, relativity, of \"this\", \"me\", \"my existence\", and \"my projections.\" So the birth of karma then continues; trying to be extremely busy all the time. In other word there's a sort of fear of being idle. One must constantly trying to prove, \"I do exist. I am what I am.\" The fascination is, this case, is kind of pathetic measurement, of trying to entertain oneself, by panic, a very clumsy style.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1327.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next process is then, there are three types of strategies used by ego. That's the aggression, passion, and indifference -- the neutral. It seems the first step is the neutral one, indifference. Is kind of an ignorance trying to step out, and ignorance in itself trying to present its tentacles, trying to extend its tentacles outside. As you try to extend tentacles outside, that somehow the tentacles they are being-- in certain way it is being conditioned in such a way that the tentacles are sort of numbness, have this quality of numbness. In case if you touch sensitive areas, that you don't want to really get into them, you don't want really hurt yourself. So there's a natural kind of mechanism of numbness that been developed from these tentacles, of ego's extension. That's ignoring quality again is in active form, rather than at the beginning it was non-participating kind of freeze: solid, solidifying process. And this kind of active ignorance is sort of mask principle, suit of armor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1443.0,1573.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, occasionally such process doesn't work. One *have* to do something. One have to live on some kind of food. And that is passion, is trying to grasp other things, and trying to eat it up. Passion is this case very fundamental one, a general sort of magnetizing process, trying to grasp things. Usually, one doesn't do that, if that we feel we are rich enough. But there is-- whenever there is a feeling of poverty, feeling of hunger, that you are not strong enough, you are not basically proving your existence, survival process of ego is not efficient anymore, then that's next pathetic kind of measure one tend to do is grasping. Trying to magnetize other things, trying to label things as your property and grasp them, hold onto them. And such mechanism of grasping extends. It's like a centipede, hundreds of tentacles extends out, constantly trying to feel and trying to grasp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1573.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other thing is aggression, goes with ignorance. Aggression is also another experience of poverty. That we can't survive, therefore we have to ward off anything which threatens our food, our property. And also that we have to push ourselves as fast as possible into situations. Which is a kind of basic speed that is involved, is aggression. A person generally-- if we are more aware of the possibilities of threatening, someone's threatening our existence, of ego as self, \"me\", then desperate thing is trying to run faster and faster, and trying to find as much as possible way of feeding. Another kind of pathetic effort. That kind of basic speed is the aggression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1692.0,1791.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's what's called \"feeling.\" Feeling contains aggression, passion, ignorance. It's a way of establishing your territory. And beyond that somehow this is still very underdeveloped way of maintaining ourselves -- ego. That you have to have something else, it seems necessary, in order to really function properly. Next thing is that reinforcing that feeling. Perception, trying to perceive; having established territory already, trying to establish kind of very efficient network. Communication. Now that you have, so to speak, established your land, you have headquarter, and you have your areas around you, so it's question is that awareness of the center-ness. Self-consciousness is the next process of perception. Now you have something to be self-conscious of, because you have established yourself and you have also established your territory. And you have worked-- also worked out your strategy of dealing with your territory, by aggression and grasping and ignorance, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1791.0,1904.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the perspective view of ego becomes more solid in this case. So perceiving, this case, is self-conscious feeling of that you have to efficiently report back what's happening. And also you have to command each situations by organizing another strategy. Perception, perceiving, extension of ego, and your projections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1904.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond that there is concept, or the intellect so to speak. And perception so far is being intuitive thing up to this point: ignorance itself and feeling and perception, all three of them seems to be intuitive one. You would purely operate on the radar, so to speak, of trying to feel your territory, your area. And yet we haven't still established ego properly, without intellect, intellectual naming. So now you have tremendous rich collections of things that's going on inside you. We have-- since we have a lot of materials there then what we can do is we can categorize them, put them into certain pigeonholes, and name them. Make it sort of official, so to speak. And that seems to be next stage of ego, is the concept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1950.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And beyond concept, then that's not quite enough -- there have to be a very active, extremely active and efficient pattern, of keeping the intuition of ego, and intellectual of ego together. Keep them together, trying to keep them together. And that's the last development of ego is consciousness. Consciousness in this case, a notion of all sorts of emotions. And also regular thought process, natural thought process. Consciousness seems to be-- or the emotions are consisting of certain element of feeling, intuition, and a certain element of intellect, which makes emotions a valid thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2023.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Somewhat that the structure of ego has been so efficient. And it seems that fundamentally, there is always conflict between the administration of ego and the central ignorance itself. It's like the ministers becoming-- possibilities of becoming more powerful than king himself. And that seems to be beginning point where the emotions begin to become painful. Because we are not quite certain, \"what is my relationship to my emotions?\" Tremendous conflict. The feeling of that basic \"me\" is completely overpowered by my emotions. And there's a tremendous struggle goes on, of losing one's basic identity as \"me,\" self. So that's the pain of emotion comes from there, which is also consciousness. And the emotions are the sort of highlights of ego's force, or army. The generals and others and so on. And subconscious thoughts, and daydreams and other thoughts are the army of ego. Which keeps constantly busy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2109.0,2240.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And where the meditation play important part here, is that we don't immediately start dealing with-- start on dealing with ignorance itself, the basic ego. We don't. Because that's rather like trying to push a wall, by one go. That if you want to take this wall down, we have to work brick-by-brick. And so you start with immediate available material, stepping-stone. That's the practice of meditation begins with working with thoughts, working with emotions and thoughts -- particularly with the thought process.\r\n\r\n\r\nPerhaps we could stop there and continue next discussion on meditation. And we could have a question period now, if anybody like to ask any questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2240.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: You say the beginning of the ego is the realization that there is no solid self. And we’re trying to freeze that realization, or trying to eliminate that realization. Can you try to explain that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can't eliminate that realization. That's something real. And the only way to do is, it seem that, from point of view of ego, you try to solidify it, the flowing open quality, you solidified.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Solidify the realization.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Solidify the constant feeling of space, realization. You see that a lot of people actually find, particularly when they're young, that constant flash of realization happens to them, quite often. And that seems to be -- in other words sort of occasionally, ego forget to cover itself so to speak, so there's a gap, peep. And we try to cover it up.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And so the ego-- the whole ego structure is built around that, trying to cover that up.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Trying to reassure yourself that there-- you really are something.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Constantly. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You see that's why the-- this structure of ego is something real, as well as realization is something real.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: In other words there *is* something there. There's a realization there.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. I mean, in a sense, of course you can argue. One could say there isn't realization. Because immediately when we talk about realization, then that in itself becomes confusion of course. That's tricky in a way. [Laughs; laughter] I mean realization is, speaking in terms of ego, the anti-ego, is realization. So ego provided this perspective view, of relativity. And beyond that there's no realization at all. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Yes. In other words the whole ego structure is nothing. The realization--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Precisely, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: --the realization that there is no solid self is what there *is* of oneself. Is that what you're saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Say that again. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: The realization that there is no solid self is what oneself *is*, in a sense.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: And it's in there somewhere, that what we are is the nature of ourselves.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: But what is that? I mean is that like a-- is there a field? Is there a magnetic-- what is that? What are we?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, what is that? You mean in terms of ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Are we, you know-- yes. I mean. How-- Okay, so there's no solid self, I mean, but there is something. What is that something?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well that's-- you see the whole point is if you say there's something, you're saying in terms of from point of view of ego. When we talk about \"some thing,\" beyond that there doesn't seem to be anything at all -- or everything. [Laughs; laughter] You see once you’re trying to define something, you can't define a thing-- one thing. You can only define things by relative terms. Black is black because contrast with this white. So once you're trying to get into some realization of trying to pinpoint something then it's not complete one. It's sort of half-done thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you want to have a realization as experience, from that point of view there wouldn't be any experience at all. Because there's no experiencer. That's most disheartening quality of the ego. [Laughter] It's like someone just dying, and he want to see his work of art, but he had regret that he couldn't live that much long, to see the finished work. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: You mean you can't see your own death.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You can't see your own death. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2349.0,2739.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do you feel that ego is innate, or it's learned?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Ego is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Is ego innate, are we born with ego, or is it learned, as a social thing? And how does this relate to karma?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well ego is developed in through a series of misunderstandings and paranoias snowballed up, as things went on.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Are we talking about previous lives?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Are we talking about previous lives or in one existence now?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both. You see when we talk about lives, the rebirth process takes all the time, the birth and death takes place all the time.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: So then when we're born, we are born with ego. And as we live we accumulate more or--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: --an ego which is peculiar to our present life.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I wouldn't say ego is a solid thing like that. It's a momentum thing happening continuously all the time. The birth of ego and the whole process takes place a momentum process, all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2739.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Are we born with ego?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you can't say that. Or we born without ego, with ego -- you can't say it. Because ego is momentum process thing. It's like a river. That you named that river such and such a thing, but actually previous river was never there at all, it's already gone, past all.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: But the water, the substance of the river has always been there, whether it's been--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, not that--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: --in clouds or sea or whatever--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Not that real river at all. By the time you named that river \"such and such river,\" and when you try to relate to it later on, that river's-- water has already gone to the ocean. So you can't hold onto it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2820.0,2867.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Do you mean we kind of spin ego out of this the way a web comes from a spider or something? We just manufacture it as we go along [INAUDIBLE]?--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, constant birth, constant death. It's a collection of energy so to speak, like light. The speed of the light, the journey of light, radiated all the time. It's a momentum thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Are you saying that the ego or the self is more of an evolutionary process, rather than static and frozen, and perhaps if one could view themselves as the river, changing, there would be less pain or conflict in trying to maintain a, you know, static view.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it's constant moving process, yeah. And that is why we have a chance to insert so to speak, other ideas into it. Like meditation and so on. If it's a solid thing there would be no entrance at all then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2867.0,2948.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, would you say as the mind becomes more enlightened it is less afraid, of its own space, and less afraid of its lack of solidity?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yes. You-- I mean at the beginning you become familiar with it. There's nothing to be afraid of. And then you begin to realize also no one to afraid of. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2948.0,2974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: There’s a dichotomy; like emotions and intellect. Where do they fit in, in forming the ego? Are they like tools that we use to form the ego and if so, like, where does meditation fit in?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well you see, generally intellect and emotions are not regarded as something bad, that we should get rid of them. But it's the way ego employ them. Ego has this tremendous conflict between that and the way it employing them. So meditation is just employing them in different style, than that of ego's style. And that is why the idea of emotions becoming wisdom. Analogy of, alchemistic analogy of lead turning into gold. The emotions becomes wisdoms. It's not question of turning them into, but viewing from different angle.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Do the emotions sort of attune themselves to-- you could find your true self, in the same with intellect then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Emotions what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Like attune themselves, are like parallel. To build a self-realization of who we are?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Couldn't follow you.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Well, you said-- well for instance if the emotions becomes this-- in this gold, this treasure--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: If they are, are they then in a sense-- is that what true self is, or are they sort of parallel to the true self? Are they in accord or in attune?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Laughs] Well, that's very difficult to say, and very difficult to make a definition. Once we’re trying to make a definition of true self then we try to solidify the whole thing, is we are doing the same thing all over again. But emotions, or any kind of process of mind, emotions and thought process and everything, could use as part of wisdom. They become wisdom. I mean in awakened state of mind. They are just there, but they have a different flavor altogether. But emotions are the not the basic awakened state of being, but they are part of its color, so to speak.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: That was the idea that I had in the sense of a reflection, of a true state of being.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Yeah, it's the definition of buddhahood is \"awake\", awakened state. Fearlessly awake. Opposed to paranoid ignorance, of ego. The operation process functions in a sense similar to that of ego in a way. But nobody experience it as outsider, but learning process becomes the awake state itself. Other word, you don't have to make sure that you're awake during the day, that you are being awake. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=2974.0,3220.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: In Hinduism they talk about the \"atman\", the \"self\", in Buddhism they claim there is no self. And it seems to me that these two approaches in the East, they're clearly two points of view. And I wonder if there is really a synthesis of the two that would be possible. In other words, is the buddha state similar to what the Hindus call \"the state of experiencing the atman\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. Well I think it's a question of a complete understanding, of the nature. Of course in the Buddhism you also talk in terms of buddha nature and attaining buddhahood, and so on. But also there has been discussion on the idea of buddha nature as well, being another ego, super-ego. That's why in the Buddhist tradition they don't talk about -- *try* not to talk about any definite thing, as atman. But it's different interpretation of atman. If one translate \"atman\" as a \"soul\" or \"self\", in the ordinary sense, then it cease to become awake atman, because you want to have definite labels on things. So dualistic attitude. But beyond that, ideas like buddha nature, and awake, awakened state of mind, could be said that of atman; same as the higher notion of atman.\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, there was also in the scriptures talk about, Buddha use word, \"When 'I' teach,\" so on, so on, so on; he referred himself as \"me.\" So that's what is called \"discriminating awareness wisdom,\" which could perceive the whole area, of things as they are. Which means it's transcending self, but at the same time there's a greater awareness of things as they are. Obviously it isn't just a nothingness, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=3220.0,3423.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80094/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CONCLUDING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well perhaps we could stop and have a short break, and-- would you like to say something?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Yes. Rinpoche is going to be giving personal interviews during this break, and then a group meditation for half an hour afterward, and at various other times during the seminar. So if anyone wants to speak to him privately, could you please come and give me your name, and we'll arrange a time?\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=3423.0,3446.33056"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19710529VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CTI SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa Rinpoche,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=1.07,4.95"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Public Seminar\nentitled Battle of Ego","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=4.95,9.25"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Three, given in Los Angeles,\nCalifornia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=9.25,13.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is talk one,\n\"Structure of Ego\",\ngiven on May 29th, 1971.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=13.38,22.02"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a CTI\nauto remaster made May 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alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=76.93,91.5"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact, in a sense\nit is quite dangerous,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497#t=91.5,97.66"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/148911/file/273497/transcript/80095/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to talk about enlightened 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