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Compares relationship to spiritual friend as lover and a friend. How to trust the situation of entering into tradition, and relationship to spiritual friend, using one's intuition. Gives analogy of the birth of his son Taggie, how the specialness of him led Trungpa Rinpoche to feel he had made the right decision, was in the right place. Discusses how to relate with messages coming from the world, and how the world contains magic, but in a practical and ordinary way. In mahayana, how spiritual friend is most powerful, intelligent friend you could have; in vajrayana he or she becomes magician. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses self-existing beauty of world, line between sanity and insanity. In closing remarks, points out participants as part of American Buddhist karma, invites all to take part in sitting.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFeb 22 2020 to Feb 13 2021 Transcribing: Ella Milligan Checking: Mary Beth Kean Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eContinued discussion of spiritual friend and devotion in mahayana, leading into bridge to devotion in vajrayana. Compares relationship to spiritual friend as lover and a friend. How to trust the situation of entering into tradition, and relationship to spiritual friend, using one's intuition. Gives analogy of the birth of his son Taggie, how the specialness of him led Trungpa Rinpoche to feel he had made the right decision, was in the right place. Discusses how to relate with messages coming from the world, and how the world contains magic, but in a practical and ordinary way. In mahayana, how spiritual friend is most powerful, intelligent friend you could have; in vajrayana he or she becomes magician. In Q\u0026amp;A, discusses self-existing beauty of world, line between sanity and insanity. In closing remarks, points out participants as part of American Buddhist karma, invites all to take part in sitting.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20260128-3797118-7qiulv.mpga"]},"duration":3515.92488,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/230/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1766080315","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/301/074/original/open-uri20260128-3797118-7qiulv.mpga?1769642324","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3515.92488,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730508VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730508VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - Devotional Buddhism of Tibet - Talk 4]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nARP SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, seminar on Devotional Buddhism of Tibet, held in Boulder, Colorado. This is talk number four, May 8th, 1973. This is an ARP digital remaster made December 2006.\r\n\r\n\r\nORIGINAL SLATE: The following is Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, at the Devotional Buddhism seminar in Boulder, Colorado, 1973. The following is lecture number four, May 8th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=0.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Discussing meaning and application of devotion, we have come to new conclusions. That devotion, trust, and surrendering is not only that of sense of abandoning yourself and in return you get a reward of your trust -- that you be taken care of, as a master would take care of his old butler pension -- but in this case it's a much more youthful, challenging situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=50.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The spiritual friend we be discussing a lot in this seminar. The word \"spiritual friend\" could be regarded as that of your lover, who is not only your lover but he is or she is your friend, transcending being purely lover, but a friend. That's rather very interesting point here. And that leads us to a lot of conclusions. That how to relate with lover? What does meaning of lover, itself? What does mean being lover? We could conventionally say that \"lover\" means somebody who related with your physical passion and make love to you, and acknowledge your existence. Or the other type of lover is somebody who admires you generally. Not necessary that person would make love physically, as such, but acknowledges or understands your beauty, your flair, your glamorousness, everything. [Laughs] There are two type of lovers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=132.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the case of spiritual friend is concerned, that we are speaking something from beyond all of those situations: lover in the sense of that there is something in you which is grotesque and lovable. And that spiritual friend has expressed his desire to communicate with you, because of your grotesqueness *and* because your beauty at the same time. Which means that death and birth are simultaneously acknowledged of your being. And such conviction or communication is very dangerous and very painful. Or, it is uncertain as to how you relate with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=277.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When I had my child, my son was born, Taggie was born, and I thought he was one of the most beautiful child of all. But I said, \"Now wait a minute, it must be your trip.\" [Laughter] But at the same time, people in the street begin to stop and saying, without any connections, begin to appreciate his beauty, and their mind begin to blown by him. [Laughter] How beautiful he is -- he was, he is. And my friends begin to tell me that he is nevertheless your son. That's apologetic. \"But *in spite* of being your son, that this child is good, beautiful.\" [Laughter] I begin to realize that I shouldn't be too timid, in trusting my pride. I feel my trust in my pride is good one, and accurate one. After all, my son is beautiful person, without preconceptions, without relative reference. Relatively speaking, again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=389.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have problem about trust. How do we trust our intuition? We would like to trust our intuition, because we have reason to believe in them. How much we trust our intuition because we don't have reason to believe in them, because those trusts maybe just purely manifestation of your frivolousness. Which is extremely delicate. At this point we might draw conclusions between being trustworthy in terms of devotion, and not being trustworthy also being in terms of devotion, at the same time. That's the crux of the matter we were trying to discuss, is how those two situations come about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=519.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you trust that the tradition and faith and practice that we're involved with ourselves are good, foolproof. How do we know that what we are doing is right, on the other hand, from outsiders' point of view? We do not know, of those two polarities. We are uncertain what we are getting into is *the* thing, *the* ultimate sanity, the sane approach. And where the others are *not* getting into this particular type of approach are being insanity, neurotic situation. We do not know, we really don't know, about the whole thing. But nevertheless we do it. We take a chance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=585.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If I may present my humble domestic judgement on this, on using the same analogy as my son Taggie. That I thought of him as fantastically beautiful child, but at the same time he did not possess any divine powers, as such as that he does not need diaper, he does not need nipples. [Laughter] But nevertheless that his development, as we watched throughout of ages or process of his development, now he is two years old, that he is shining through. Not only what I thought, but what I been told by ordinary conventional logic as well that he is one of the most beautiful child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=670.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel that I can take pride in him because he is not only my child, but he is by some very strange chance happens to be a good boy. He didn't cry when he was infant, and he demand attention when he is semi-infant. He questioned everything, by saying, \"What's that, what's that, what's that?\" [Laughter] In somewhat he is ideal child that you can imagine. Not only my point of view, but a lot of people begin to tell me as well. Even ordinary people, who have no idea of the case history. [Laughter] So I begin to believe in that. Maybe after all, in spite of my wishful thinking, whole thing is maybe true. That I have a god-given child, whatever that means. [Laughter] That doesn't mean that he came down into our laps by parachuting. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=758.0,902.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I begin to find out that my lifestyle and my way of relating with the world has brought me that proving or acknowledging my lifestyle as something that there is, \"What you're doing is okay. And you be acknowledged. And it is, we might say, good. What you're doing is right. Because every expected situation has been happening with your lifestyle situation, as far as I'm concerned.\" That whenever there's little doubt -- \"Am I doing the right thing or not?\" -- then I get answer saying, \"This is right for you. What's happening *is* right. It is a real thing for you.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=902.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We had a very interesting encounter renting Four Mile Canyon house, up in the Four Mile Canyon, my house. We put ad in newspaper, and Rick Stone acknowledged it. He want to rent it to us. We met him, talked to him, and several days later that there was Texan rich man who want to buy house in Boulder, wanted to buy it. Quite jocularly we said to him, Rick Stone, that \"We'll send negative vibrations to him, so that he won't buy your house, and we could rent.\" [Unknown gesture or incident; laughter] Several days later we met him up in the Gold Hill, in the barn. He said, \"Your vibration worked. [Laughter] Now it's yours.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nThe whole point is I'm not particularly telling you successful stories, like how wretched person become millionaire, the case history of the...\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What are those names?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: [INAUDIBLE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=974.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Anyway, the case history of that how penniless person become millionaire -- I'm not trying to tell you that story. And nor that I'm trying to tell the story that fucked up Tibetan guy who got married to Westerner, expecting wretched baby [laughter], and it turn out to be glorious one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1115.0,1163.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what I'm trying to say is that there is a lot of things that we could work, and find out and trusting in your situation, and trusting also the situation that you're involved. There's lot of truth, lot of messages involved in your life situation. That if you don't relate with such messages, you've been thrown off the board very violently. You can't blame the God or whoever there is, be unjustice. But if you relate with the situations as precisely as possible, in the living situation as there is, and then there is tremendous opportunities in which that you could relate with the sense of devotion. That you actually do trust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1163.0,1227.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could cross the street with your conviction, that the motor car just about to run over you had jammed. Because its known mechanical inefficiency, had a flat tire, or something suddenly happened, and that it couldn't run you over. You be saved. Not be saved alone, but you giving message that to driver, who's frivolously driving through you, just about to run you over. And such situation does happen, it does exist. There *is* room for magic from that point of view. But not point of view of just purely to prove your divinity and your fantastic-ness; there's no magic for that. But there's magic in practicality, which is a fantastic thing; there is room for magic from this point of view. That's why the idea for devotion is the acknowledging that kind of magic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1227.0,1307.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Magic in the-- not the sense of that you as student have faith to the guru, who could save your life and he could perform magical situations for you. That's not the case. That if you are crippled, you need a wheelchair to come upstairs, you pray your guru, and the guru will create a psychic force of levitation that you are already upstairs. That's too American approach. [Laughter] Such thing does not happen. Whether people believe or not, does not happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1307.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose what we are working, this particular talk, is trying to build a bridge between that of the hinayanist and the mahayanist approach of spiritual friend, and that of the vajrayana approach, of the magical approach of vidyadhara, the crazy wisdom person, opposed to spiritual friend. You see, that in the hinayanist approach that guru is regarded as he who has only has eyes to lead us, the rest of us are blind. In the mahayanist approach, that everybody has eyes to look forward, but some friend is much more smarter, powerful, kind than any other friends; he become spiritual friend. And in the vajrayana point of view, that guru principle becomes much more powerful than that. Not only spiritual friend, but magician who could trick you. And also your lover as well at same time, who could trick you as well. It's a mind-boggling situation that point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1373.0,1465.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So tonight's discussion seemed that we are sitting on a razor edge, or the doorstep. \"Should I step into the room, or should I stay out in the open air?\" That seem to be the point. Where there's razor edge question is the boundary situation that we are discussing, between the magic and the reality. Magic does not exist without reality, and reality does not exist without the magic. That seem to be the whole point. Spiritual friend, does he have anything in his sleeves? I would say no. He has his handkerchiefs in his sleeves, and a snuff box, maybe. But that in itself may be very magical. Why should have his handkerchiefs, snuff box? Why shouldn't he-- why should he wipe his nose with handkerchiefs? Why should he need to have, take snuff? Which seems be another matter altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we could stop that point, and lure you to be able to come back to tomorrow's talk, to find out the conclusions. [Rings gong] We could start with discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1465.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Rinpoche, when you talked the magic and-- the magic of practicality, are you talking about that every situation-- like at the vajrayana level that every situation is the guru, is a teaching situation that has in a sense magic?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1596.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But last night, Rinpoche, you told-- you answered that similar question by saying that you don't learn from a situation, you're just in it, you're stuck in it. That seems to be a point of confusion to me.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, it's same thing. That's precisely the same thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Could you elaborate at all, with the magical--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, let me know what's the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: The problem is that there's-- in one of the situations, something happens, and there's an analysis going on, and what this means. And another situation, something happens, and there's just a feeling of what the situation is doing to oneself going on. And that seems to be conflicting, the way I see it--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seems that both expression of confusion. And there *is* magic, but there isn't magic at the same time. It's-- if you want to get, you know, [audience member sneezes] remedies -- gesundheit -- that remedy becomes a hangup. So at the end, they both become the same thing. Identically the same thing, I think... [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1636.0,1751.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Could you give some other examples of what kind of magic there is, then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm. The fire burns. Sun shines. [Laughter] The tape recorder records. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1751.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Is there a distinction between pride in your shit and pride in your trust? Or are they the same thing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends on how you relate with your shit.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: And if you trust your shit, then [INAUDIBLE] it transforms? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then it becomes something more than shit. More likely food.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What if-- what about-- it seems like sometimes the pride turns into arrogance about one's shit, or a sort of a stagnant attitude. Is that...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's the problem, that you are not able to see your arrogance as shit. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: I set myself up for that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1792.0,1859.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Can you give some examples of this sort of practical magic, with your experiences with your own guru?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don't know. I suppose we could say that we are here. We didn't mean to be here together, but we are here. Why Boulder? Why Chogyam Trungpa? Why you? Why prostrate? Why 444-0202? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When will you tell us who your boss is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: When what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: When will you tell us who our boss is, or who your boss is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What did he say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Last night?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: When will you tell us who your boss is?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Uh... [laughter] unfortunately hasn't a name. [Laughs; laughing] I'm sorry. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1859.0,1972.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, is magic a question of humility? I mean an attitude of humility? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Why do you say that?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Because the sun shines, you know. When-- culturally we can have all kinds of explanations of that, but still it's magic, in the sense that it does, you know.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I don't think-- I think it's magic is more likely than that of pride.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You're crying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pride. You're *proud* of it. That the sun shines, we don't have to pay debts to the sun. And grass is green, and there's no government to tax on that. Particularly if you don't own the properties of course. [Laughter; laughs] But they don't charge for the colors in the taxes. Chrysanthemum is white, a crow is black, a dove is white. Nobody had to pay tax for that. It's expression of freedom.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Like self-existence?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. And sunset is not taxed, or does not need a ticket to watch sunset. It's there. And of course it does need ticket wherever you are, where's your property is located. But nevertheless it's regarded as freedom. It's expression of, in fact -- horrifying thought -- is that expression of imprisonment. If we are not in that situation, we can't witness them.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: [INAUDIBLE] in the whole environment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Somewhat, yeah. If you had the outstanding house built, which is ideal location to watch the sunrise, sunset, we don't have to view that vision of sunset, sunrise, as natural phenomena at all. We attribute that because we have got such property to watch that situation. So your property, you feel-- as far as you are concerned, you feel you that you got your bargain's worth.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: And then it isn't magic anymore.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Then there's no magic anymore. But then you don't tell your real estate or your previous seller, that you don't ask for the sunrise, sunset, how much they cost. You just keep quiet. Just pay to keep. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=1972.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: It sounded as though you were saying that this magic is messages that we get, which should confirm our faith, or confirm our devotion. Which sounds so... suspicious, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that's the whole point. That's the *pride* of the getting into the teaching, is that your faith should combined with suspicion. If you get a message you feel automatically suspicious, which is fantastic. Which automatically says that you are not doing whole thing on blind faith. That your faith combines suspicion, at the same time. That you are not acting out of your blind faith anymore *at all*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Yes, but when something happens, such as you have a beautiful child, why do you treat that even as a message particularly, or as a magic occurrence? Why not that that just happened?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I don't regard as a message of-- I regard it as just that it happens. It happens to be on *me*, which is very un-understandable.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: But then you-- that you seem to be saying that that confirmed that you were doing the right thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I'm sure, yeah. Well, sure. I'm saying the same thing, is that it happens to be doing the right thing, amongst millions of them. It's like saying the same thing that a rotten egg drops on my head in the whole crowd -- why not?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Well, just that, I don't see what that confirmed, beyond the fact that you have a beautiful child, which is wonderful. You see, you began with asking the question, \"How do we know if this is the approach to sanity, and everybody else is taking the approach of insanity?\" Then immediately you went into this. So it sounded as though you were saying well, we get these messages. Like, \"I have a beautiful child, so I must be on the approach of sanity.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: As far as I'm concerned I think I am. [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2215.0,2385.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: What would you do if they were an ugly child? What does one do in that situation? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, obviously--\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Not that I've experienced that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well obviously I would say that I'm approaching towards *in*sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: And then what does that mean in your life? What--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is that my whole structure of my life is insane. And I should give up, or do something.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Would that mean-- would be a message to do something, do something actively?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Actively, yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Like [INAUDIBLE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Contain myself, saying insane person. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Contain yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, sure. I was prepared to do that, personally.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: But how could you accept a situation, and also take a message of failure as a message of urging to do something else?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, because that means that you be acknowledged, at least that you are in the margin of possibilities of being failure or the-- developing sanity. You be acknowledged.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Taking a further chance in that sense?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2385.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: It sounds kind of smug, somewhat, you know. But then the danger of that attitude is great.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The situation speaks for itself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But, I mean-- outside of my projections, it speaks for itself. But, I mean, I'm always in them, you know?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think you have a complete right to be in them. [Laughter] And equally I have a right to have a fantastic child, is granted. And also maybe I could have a mentally retarded child, with three eyes and a big tail and horns and wings [laughter] and image of Rudra.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: But would that mean anything different?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, I would think that that's message that I'm being rudra-hood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2467.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What would you do?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: What would you do? If you had that [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I give up what I'm doing. I trying to disentangle my rudra-hood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2562.0,2576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why is it rudra-hood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, why not? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why not a beautiful child be rudra-hood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Why not a beautiful child be rudra-hood?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well I could, but I can't twist my logic because there are some logics involved.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: But it's not logic based though...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It is, but it's not.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It is. It's basically that your child has been born as monster or lovable ideal child, which is very simple. And by incident, my child is be born out to be beautiful one, rather than monster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2576.0,2629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: What if your ugly child grows into a beautiful child? Is that all your doing then? You know, like you become [laughing] sane?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, that sounds like if you're reacting against you want to have a beautiful child, if you have already child, then you are trying to change the whole logic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2629.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: But this kind of attitude of messages leaves you in a situation where you seem-- where you would interpret every single incident that takes place. If you trip on the stairs. If you smell a flower and the petal drops off. [Laughter] Or at the moment you open your eyes the sun came out from behind the clouds. I mean you could go crazy [INAUDIBLE]. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, it seems if you're aware of that, you can't go crazy.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Aware of--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The appropriate messages. It does play important part in your life. They happen in a very similar situation. That when you smell your flower and a petal drops down, and next thing is that you trip over dog shit. [Laughter] I think that's one of the very interesting thing is that happens, as in the reading Don Juan's book that when he says that elements acknowledging him, which has lot of things to do-- you know do with it. Generally where we think is that things happens around us haphazardly, which really doesn't work that way at all. If you actually acknowledge the whole thing is happening, there is a sequence. When you become open, frivolous, then something stops you all the time. That is *almost*, we could say, trustworthy. That things do happen that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2650.0,2769.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How literally though should we take what you're saying about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How literally?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's up to you. As long as you're open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2769.0,2786.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Doesn't it seem-- it seems to me that the problem arises that most people consider themselves as watching the process as active parts, in part controlling or trying to control, or mucking around with it in some way or matter or form. But what you say, and which I accept totally, is that it is just the other way around. Is that process watches *us*. And if we accept this as going on, well then of course a falling petal is very significant. And we are an expression-- this is being done to us, we're not controlling it.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Rings gong] Well said. That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2786.0,2856.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER17: So then in order to deal with that, what was just said then, you would have to really begin to trust your intuition of things of the way things are going on about you.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think so, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2856.0,2877.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: What do you mean when you say the world is our projection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I am saying, how come that the world *isn't* our projection?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: Could you repeat that please again?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How come that world isn't our projection?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: How come, or how could it?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How come.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER18: The world is not...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: *Isn't* our projection.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER19: I don't quite understand that.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Too bad. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2877.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Rinpoche, suppose at one time I look at a flower and I smell it and a petal falls off, and I go \"Ugh\", and get very frightened or anxious. And another time I look at it and I say \"Ahh, this flower is telling me that everything is transient.\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Flower, did you say?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Yeah, I looked at the situation of a petal falling off of a flower or appreciating it, and I could relate to that in a number of ways. Some will be to be frightened, and some will be to think that maybe the flower is talking that, you know it's not going to last forever. You know, it feels like-- and how do I know, know which one is-- what the situation is saying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both situation you say? Both insane. *Both are insane*.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER20: Both what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Both what he said. Maybe most of the [INAUDIBLE] thing is what he didn't said. Look for that. That doesn't mean to say you are hopeless, at all. You are extraordinarily fertile. But don't try to create dichotomies against \"that and this,\" \"that and this.\" Is cross journey rather than direct journey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=2927.0,3047.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 19]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER21: Is dharmakaya a projection?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It depends. Depends on how you approach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=3047.0,3075.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 20]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Maybe we should end our discussion. You have something to say, lady?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: Yes, I had one more question. [Laughter] I was wondering if there's any acceptance, in the case of meditation, as far as messages go? In other words, we all know from different times of you speaking that if nothing is happening in meditation, you say, \"It's going well.\" And if person is freaking out, you say, \"It's going well.\" And if something else is happening, you say, \"It's going well.\" Is that because meditation is to be taken differently from physical occurrences or...?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: It's no different. It's the same.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER22: It's going well anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: And going wrong at the same time. Because it's going wrong. [Rings gong]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=3075.0,3135.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89228/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Did you make announcement about tomorrow's nyinthun?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: I did.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You did?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER23: Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, moreover that I would like to everybody to invite to this nyinthun. Maybe people in the community have already experience, but people in the community *plus* the participants of the seminar might have a new input. And I feel that if you can take part in this nyinthun situation which would be extremely powerful. I feel that we spend so much time in the talking and discussing intellectually, this is situation we could break down, and really sit with our neurosis, subconscious gossips of all kinds, which is *great* and beautiful. And we would like to share our mutual subconscious gossip by marking that everybody in the scene is already on the path to *sanity*. Maybe you might experience *in*sanity in the sitting process, sitting practices, but that is acknowledging insanity towards sanity.\r\n\r\n\r\nWould be extremely helpful if you would like to help us to encourage us to maintain our approach, as well as if *we* as community members ourselves could acknowledge and communicate with you that you are joining us. Which is extremely reciprocal contributions that you could ever make, on terms acknowledging what we are doing is valid, as far as you are concerned. And so please, everybody, I would like to request everybody to come and take part, including the community members who could reinforce the visitor. So please come and get together with us.\r\n\r\n\r\nTo begin with we are going to have the opening of this-- or the blessing of this meditation hall, which we haven't blessed. We started as purely gymnastic ground, so far. And we are going to make it into sacred, and good place to be together. We going to influence American karma. That American karma deserves another inch of a square, of sacred ground, to commit America into spirituality, and so forth.\r\n\r\n\r\nI don't know what the time is set up for, but I would like to [INAUDIBLE] up everybody to take part in this. And I would like you to realize that you are influencing American karma. Every one of you are part of that American karma. Which you can't blame on me, or the scene, but if you're not involved with the scene, still you're reinforcing us involve with this American karma. And I would like to make quite clear, what you're doing is very serious one. And I would like to personally welcome your seriousness, and please don't back up. You have no chance to back up in any case, because you instigated idea of seminar already. And you took part in it, you have involved yourselves, so it's helpless, to try and relieve, to gain pure conscience, which it does not really take place here.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd, prefer-- I would like to prefer that everybody take part in this nyinthun tomorrow, please. You'll enjoy it! [Laughter] You might think you can't do it but you realize you have all kinds of resource energies to work with it. So please come and join us tomorrow, without failing, please, please, please. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd also the visitors of the talk tonight could join in, if you feel like, do so. I don't know how many visitors there, that if you are curious about what we are doing and what of our trips are about, you could come and experience what's happening tomorrow. You could join in. Please, you're welcome. Thank you.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074#t=3135.0,3515.92488"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89229","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730508VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/165482/file/301074/transcript/89229/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ARP SLATE: This is the\nVenerable Chogyam\nTrungpa 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