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Rationale for bardo retreat, as way of seeing samsara and nirvana as inseparable. Maha ati approach is shedding disciplines of meditation even, as they tend to bring us security. Lack of reference point is complete maha ati view. Outlines ground, path, fruition tantras according to maha ati. Ground focuses on freeing ourselves from fixating on our existence. Discipline becomes expression of complete freedom, not tying us down. Path self-existing, choiceless, not \"yours.\" Fruition is complete non-reference point, no more questions, \"non-achievement.\" Death from ati point of view is seeing through ideas of samsara and nirvana. Q\u0026amp;A covers a lot of interesting ground: describes maha ati as \"epitome of the whole thing\"; necessity of going through disciplines to get there. \u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["UNPUBLISHED"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDec 06 2018 to Dec 10 2023 Transcribing: Daniel Nguyen Checking: Travis May Final Proof: Travis May, Anne Seidlitz Terminology Review: Matilda Perks Other Contributors: Warner Dick, Lynn Friedman\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eA talk that goes into further depth on vajrayana view of death. Rationale for bardo retreat, as way of seeing samsara and nirvana as inseparable. Maha ati approach is shedding disciplines of meditation even, as they tend to bring us security. Lack of reference point is complete maha ati view. Outlines ground, path, fruition tantras according to maha ati. Ground focuses on freeing ourselves from fixating on our existence. Discipline becomes expression of complete freedom, not tying us down. Path self-existing, choiceless, not \"yours.\" Fruition is complete non-reference point, no more questions, \"non-achievement.\" Death from ati point of view is seeing through ideas of samsara and nirvana. Q\u0026amp;A covers a lot of interesting ground: describes maha ati as \"epitome of the whole thing\"; necessity of going through disciplines to get there.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/757/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357796","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1702357769_19730712VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3"]},"duration":2273.20163,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/219/757/small/Logo-Audio-Red.png?1702357796","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/219/757/original/1702357769_19730712VCTR2-Audio-Prod-CTIAutoRmstr-Access.mp3?1702357771","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2273.20163,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19730712VCTR2-Transcript-Timed [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19730712VCTR2 - Public Seminar - RMDC - Tibetan Book of the Dead II - Talk 8]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\nCTI SLATE: This is the Venerable Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, public seminar entitled Tibetan Book of the Dead II, given at the Rocky Mountain Dharma Center, in Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. This is Talk 8, given on July 12th, 1973. This is a CTI Auto Remaster made November 2023.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=0.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: The meaning of death we’ve been discussing in past few days in our seminar, that we have discussed the gradual process of hinayana’s approach, and mahayana’s approach, and vajrayana’s approach. And to the point of vajrayana’s approach, that we have to go much deeper than we have discussed yesterday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=29.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The vajrayana’s approach we be discussing last night in terms of the bardo retreat, and the attitude evolves around it. But still, somewhat that attitude is not quite adequate to understand further journey. That it is logic of understanding, taking part in a retreat of bardo, that you work, you study, meditate, seven weeks in total darkness without lights. And that is a glimpse towards understanding of totality of one’s basic being in relationship to basic ignorant. And bardo retreat provides ground in which that you can work with yourself, to understand the polarities between that of nirvana approach and samsara approach are nevertheless the same. There’s unity between the two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=95.0,221.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We could go much more beyond than that. Is also to understand the basic meaning of... without any disciplines at all, without any approaches at all. That any relationship that involves might lead us into some kind of security: that the disciplines are there, and therefore the reason why discipline should be there are also way of proving our existence, in some way. That, can one imagine experience without a reference point? And that seem to be the basic point of what we have to actually understand and study. Experience without a reference point. And that experience without reference point is the complete experience of maha ati teaching. And still, maha ati teaching refers to the tantric principles of \"ground tantra,\" and \"path tantra,\" and \"fruition tantra\". Use some logic or some jargon, whatever you like to call it. But at the same time, according to maha ati logic, or approach -- whatever you like to call it -- that ground tantra of one’s existence as a practitioner or a student is the basic point that we have to free ourselves from basic fixation of our existence as honest, earnest, sincere student. At the same time, in order to free ourselves from that basic bondage of being a sincere, honest student, is a very difficult thing to do. If you just abandon the whole thing -- throw out, throw away the textbooks, and stop meditating, and having a good time, is not quite to the point, to say the least.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=221.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At that level, the freedom of ground tantra and understanding one’s basic being and one’s basic approach to reality, is not so much of abandoning or rejecting existing traditions or techniques, what might involve. But the basic point is to understand, or realize, that need for fundamental freedom to realize what we are involved, our approach to our discipline is workable. It is expression of freedom. That discipline does not tie us down into heavy-handed, compulsory, mandatory situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=413.0,481.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The ground tantra is acknowledging, relating -- completely, fully, totally -- the fundamentality of basic intelligence, basic substance, basic ground, from which that we grow up, from which we began our spiritual journey right at the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=481.0,526.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not so much to acknowledge that we do possess buddha nature, and therefore we should cheer ourselves up, in spite of our confusions. But to the point that we are what we are; we even do not need the help of a confirmation of being buddha in ourselves, necessarily. And in fact that has been the problem along a lot of cases: that we find that we be confirmed, we be supported, that we have hopeful basic ground, we have. Therefore we shouldn’t give up our hope. \"You’re going to be saved one day\" is not the approach in tantric way, anyway, at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=526.0,576.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then we have the path tantra. Path tantra is related with the notion of… [unknown incident; laughter] The tantra of the path is that of real experience with the mahamudra. Mahamudra, this case, is life experience, in its own way; extraordinarily true and colorful. That we do not have to sort for further confirmation that what we experience is workable, and mystical -- shall we say such a word? [unknown incident; laughter] The path tantra is to realize that you don’t-- you do not possess actually the path. The highway is not belongs to you. Nor your vehicle that travels on the highway, nor your self who drives with that particular vehicle. So you might say [laughs] it’s very funny, because the whole thing is redundant. How come that such thing does exist at all? [laughs] It’s interesting. But at same time seem to be rather enigmatic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=576.0,787.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the message seems to be is that this boredom quality of the path, of the path tantra, is the journey itself, the boredom. Boredom is the message. Repetitiousness and irrelevant of trodding on the path, become irrelevant to you. For the very reason-- because there are no other choice apart from *that*. You’ve no choice. You find yourself on the path, and we can’t reject that. And if you’re trying to reject it, then it could produce a further path. So a perpetual process is we’re trying to do something; trying to figure out something becomes irrelevant at this point.\r\n\r\n\r\n[unknown incident; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=787.0,869.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And next reference is the tantra of fruition. Fruit. Basic ground, which manifests itself as fruition. Tantra of fruition is based on no reference point. Quite different from that of the tantra of the ground, the tantra of the path. Fruition tantra does not relate with any reference point at all. It transcends, it supersede any reference point, in the transcendental level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=869.0,973.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For the very reason that there’s no need for searching for further answers, or further reference point, that you could maintain yourself, at all. That the reference point does not apply at that point, completely, thoroughly. No reference point, no entertainment, nothing, absolute nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=973.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we could say that it’s a big joke. In a sense, that how come that we build all that whole thing? That tantra’s supposed to be the highest point that we’re trying to achieve, even from the point of view of hinayana level; the hinayana’s approach to achieve mahayanist level, and mahayanist level try to achieve the *vajrayana* level. And once we got to the vajrayanist level of ultimate fruition, that there’s a sense of climactic. That big deals becomes small. And now, that we understand that there’s no big deal. And we were raised that whole process is big deal, supposedly; we’re going to gain something, we’re going to experience something. And that is in itself is a very interesting point. To understand the meaning of death -- you remember the original theme that we have? [laughter] -- our study is involved with the understanding of death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1010.0,1121.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The meaning of death in this case, is to see the absurdity of samsara and nirvana principle, altogether. And your search towards it becomes irrelevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1121.0,1169.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Death in this case is discontinuity. That even the spiritual experience cannot be trusted, insured, in any given security that you’re going to get what you want. Quite the opposite that this particular logic runs, that when we trying to achieve something, we are not achieving anything. Instead we achieve the non-achievement. That basic twist from the enlightened point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1169.0,1217.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time, that we find that we can’t blame on anyone. That we realize that is our production, that is our produce. We want to achieve something, our achievement is being thrown away, and we achieve non-achievement instead. And no one to complain about that. And the whole thing twisted around. And that you might get some slightest notion of maha ati logic at that point. But this point, I will say that I shouldn’t extend too much of the particular understanding of a different kind of logic. For one thing we don’t have enough time, and another thing is that we don’t have enough experience. That we have no chance of taking chance. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSo I would like to stop at this point here, before I say anything too crazy.\r\n\r\n\r\nDiscussion? Anybody would like to questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1217.0,1299.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: During this whole seminar you’ve been expressing the similarity between life and death, and the sense that we’re dying daily and so forth. And it seems like in maha ati, it would almost be indistinguishable to call it life or death. Is that so?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. So what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So could it be happening during life?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yes, but, so what? So what’s behind the question?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: So nothing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are you sure? [laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1299.0,1343.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Can we change the rate at which we die, or prevent ourselves from dying in any way by trying to achieve a clearer mind or enlightenment? Or do we keep on dying at the same rate regardless of whether we try to be enlightened or not?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, the rate of death isn't depends on you. You can’t hold it, you die one day. So you have no power to keep the basic schedule, \"who’s going to die this week.\" You have no control, there’s no moderator to keep track of who’s going to die. And we can’t control, in any way. You are candidate to death, you’re going to die, and that’s one shot, as far as individuality is concerned. But more so than that, that we can’t keep schedule, as you know very well, who’s scheduled to die.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Right at this moment, can I-- do I prevent myself from dying by trying to cling to what I am, to what I feel that I am?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That is a very smart question. You can do that, but by doing that, you’re speeding your death.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: By trying to cling to what I am, I speed up my death?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah, yeah, you die much-- half an hour earlier than you expected. [Laughter] You die faster, when you do that.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: And--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shall we try? [laughter] And what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Well it seems like I have this stagnant sense of myself, that I am a particular-- I have particular feelings, and thoughts. And they seem to keep hanging on and on. And so I wonder in the face of that feeling of stagnation, you know, I think, how am I going to experience the fact that I’m dying?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That’s up to you, I’m afraid. [laughs; laughter] Don’t take it too seriously.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: Pardon?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Don’t take too seriously. Don’t be too solemn. Need some kind of sense of humor. Nevertheless. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1343.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Rinpoche, where are the buddhas of the past?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Where are the buddhas of the past? Nowhere. That’s why they are in the past.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: They’re still practicing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: They’re still practicing.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: But they are still-- are they still practicing?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Are they still practicing? Because we-- if they-- if buddhas of the past in the past, they can’t practice, because they’re in the past. [Laughter] Otherwise it become present. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1525.0,1574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Yeah. To someone who experiences maha ati, do the teach-- are the teachings still valid to them? Is--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: To who?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: To someone who's experienced maha ati, are the teachings still valid to them? Are they still significant?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well very much so. What else you think? Who experience-- personal experience of maha ati is the epitome of the whole teachings; highest of the whole thing. And teachings are under their command rather than their food. That’s why maha ati yoga is referred as the imperial yana. Looks down, rather than looking up, as you trying to get something grasp something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1574.0,1632.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Since, basically we know that there’s nothing to achieve, what’s the point in--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Basically what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: Since we sort of basically know that there’s no achievement, what’s the point of making the effort to sit and go into bardo retreats and seminaries, and things like that?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean you’d be surprised. [laughter] That the basic point is to realize there’s no achievement. In order to realize that you have to go through all these process. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Rinpoche, is there any way I can help-- [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1632.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: The other night someone asked you what was the relation-- if they could slow down the rate of death during life. And you said, \"yes, through control of breath,\" but that was impossible. What is the relationship between pranayama, controlling the breath, to death, and why is it impossible?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Pranayama is trying to prove your life-- improve your life, how it could become healthy, happier, and energetic champion. And it has little respect to death, and little reference to death. And that seem to be the problem. But you can take delight in the pranayama, and relate it with the death and further adventures beyond death. If you have become true practitioner of the pranayama, you breathe after you die. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: What about holding the breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What about what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Holding the breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That seem to be very gimmicky. That you don’t want to accept that, \"I’m holding breathing\" is you are rejecting time. That by holding your breath, you're holding your death five minutes. And by holding breathing all the time you might prolong your life. 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I think that’s why the situation, that I hope that we could change our pattern. At least anybody who involved with this group here attending part of this seminar would able to relate with their dying friends, their dying relatives. And I hope that all of you could relate with people directly, asking them to face life.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: How would that drug experience affect the person who’s dying, you know? As they go through the bardo.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Tremendous threat and bewilderment. That they thought they are still alive. And they be cheated, obviously. That people you have trust more in them didn’t tell you what’s happening with you. Including your wife, your husband, your closest friend, didn’t bother to tell you what’s happening. And feel extremely bad and rejected. That you are something dirty or something embarrassing to them. Which is really *terrible*. I mean it’s a really shameful thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=2090.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Rinpoche, when someone is experiencing some sort of a psychological death, you know, something that, you know-- Well that people feels like a leper -- you mentioned that word yourself -- because that, you know, that one’s friends tend to [UNCLEAR: shrivel?] at that time. How is that different from physical death? That--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Physical death seem to more prominent, more desperate. And psychological death is more of a challenge and more of source of a sense of humor, relatively speaking. It has more room to work with, because there is more possibilities of improvising [UNCLEAR: at the time?]. Physical death has no improvisation at all. Sudden full stop. And seem to be different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=2203.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62591/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might stop now. Thank you. I hope you could have a good sleep. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. 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Anybody would\nlike to questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1294.02,1297.1"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1: During this whole\nseminar you’ve been\nexpressing the similarity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1299.4,1304.49"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between life and death,\nand the sense that we’re\ndying daily and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1304.49,1308.6"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it seems like\nin maha ati,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1308.6,1310.2"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it would almost be\nindistinguishable to\ncall it life or death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1310.87,1315.38"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is that so?\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sure. So what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1316.14,1321.41"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER1:\nSo could it be happening\nduring life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1323.02,1324.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nYes, but, so what?\nSo what’s behind the 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And--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1455.58,1460.92"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nShall we try?\n[laughter] And what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1460.92,1466.44"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER2:\nWell it seems like I have this\nstagnant sense of 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That’s why\nthey are in the past.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1537.83,1541.21"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nThey’re still practicing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1541.21,1542.45"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Hmm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1542.45,1543.245"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nThey’re still practicing.\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1543.245,1545.57"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER3:\nBut they are still--\nare they still practicing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1545.57,1548.37"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE:\nAre they still practicing?\nBecause we-- if they--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1548.37,1551.87"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if buddhas of the past\nin the past,\nthey can’t practice,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1552.77,1557.48"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because they’re in the past.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1557.48,1562.415"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Otherwise it become present.\n[Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1565.52,1570.83"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SPEAKER4:\nYeah. To someone\nwho experiences maha ati,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757#t=1583.84,1587.05"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/115878/file/219757/transcript/62592/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do the teach--\nare the teachings\nstill valid to them? 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