{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/kh0dv1fx0c/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1973-12-11: Nine Yanas II: Talk 2: Hopelessness"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1973-12-11"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Video"]}},{"label":{"en":["Location"]},"value":{"en":["Boulder, Colorado, USA"]}},{"label":{"en":["Event Type"]},"value":{"en":["Public Seminar"]}},{"label":{"en":["Seminar or Series Title"]},"value":{"en":["\u003ca href=\"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/playlists/647/show\"\u003eNine Yanas II\u003c/a\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Talk Title"]},"value":{"en":["Talk 2: Hopelessness"]}},{"label":{"en":["Theme"]},"value":{"en":["Buddhist Foundations"]}},{"label":{"en":["Summary"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFrom the truth of suffering, this talk explores the origin of suffering, the second noble truth and the “pratyekabuddha yana.” Detailed explanation of how ignoring suffering generates karma. The Buddha as having pinpointed the basic map of our psychology, chain reaction of the “twelve nidanas”, as keeping us in samsara. But acknowledging our “hopelessness” is absolutely key. Giving up hope called “the path of unification,” as we are unified with ourselves for first time. Giving up hope as first step on the spiritual path. Uses analogy of a prison cell; making relationship with hopelessness is what awakens compassion, begins process of working with ourselves. After the Q\u0026amp;A, Seminary participant Eric Holm (future Dorje Loppon) gives clear, detailed instructions on view of meditation practice, and working with the breath\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication"]},"value":{"en":["BOOK: Lion's Roar","BOOK: Collected Works Vol 04"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publication Details"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBOOK: THE LION'S ROAR: Part One, Chapter 2: Hopelessness\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-lion-s-roar-921.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eBOOK: COLLECTED WORKS VOL 4 (in contained book THE LION'S ROAR)\u003cbr\u003e-- from \u003ca href=\"https://www.shambhala.com/the-collected-works-of-chogyam-trungpa-385.html\"\u003eShambhala Publications\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Transcription Credits"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eOct 01 2018 to Dec 10 2025 Transcribing: Harry Einhorn Checking: Ella Milligan Final Proof: Anne Seidlitz Other Contributors: Lynn Friedman, Warner Dick\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e© Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Year"]},"value":{"en":["1973"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eFrom the truth of suffering, this talk explores the origin of suffering, the second noble truth and the \u0026ldquo;pratyekabuddha yana.\u0026rdquo; Detailed explanation of how ignoring suffering generates karma. The Buddha as having pinpointed the basic map of our psychology, chain reaction of the \u0026ldquo;twelve nidanas\u0026rdquo;, as keeping us in samsara. But acknowledging our \u0026ldquo;hopelessness\u0026rdquo; is absolutely key. Giving up hope called \u0026ldquo;the path of unification,\u0026rdquo; as we are unified with ourselves for first time. Giving up hope as first step on the spiritual path. Uses analogy of a prison cell; making relationship with hopelessness is what awakens compassion, begins process of working with ourselves. After the Q\u0026amp;A, Seminary participant Eric Holm (future Dorje Loppon) gives clear, detailed instructions on view of meditation practice, and working with the breath\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003e\u0026copy; Diana J. Mukpo - All rights reserved -\u0026nbsp;Not to be Distributed or Reproduced\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Chogyam Trungpa Digital Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/209/original/cti-library-logo-blue-text.png?1672724952","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/070/small/thumbnail_299070_1766176379.jpg?1766176442","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1766173926_19731211vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4"]},"duration":5121.6165,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/299/070/small/thumbnail_299070_1766176379.jpg?1766176442","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-cti.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/299/070/original/1766173926_19731211vctr1-video-prod-ctirmstrsd-access.mp4?1766173959","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":5121.6165,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731211VCTR1-Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[19731211VCTR1 - Public Seminar - Boulder - The Lion's Roar II - Talk 2]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]\r\n\r\n\r\n[BOOKMARK: MAIN TALK]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yesterday we discussed the question of pain, understanding the nature of pain. That leads us into further discussion from point of view of commitment, discipline. Word \"commitment\", and \"discipline\" is committing ourselves into what is *there*, definitely what is *there* –- which is pain at this point. And discipline is realizing that commitment is self-existing; that we can’t get out of that commitment, and it is a whole-hearted situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=0.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Realizing the origin of pain is necessary at this point. That thingness that we have, that thing that is constantly hanging out with us, it is part of our shadow. Sense of thingness is part of our shadow. It tells us, whenever there’s unspoken word of this embarrassment, inconvenient confusion, whatever we have, that that is the thingness of the suffering and pain that we discussed yesterday. Is the starting point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=162.0,224.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Starting point too much so, to the extent that that particular starting point inspires us to look *further*. Further in the sense what is the behind that awareness of thingness. That I personally cannot say, \"I love you.\" Or I personally cannot say, \"I hate you.\" Something holding us back, something prevents us back. A sense of that we don’t want to commit ourselves into that particular embarrassing private parts that we have. That particular *thingness* has back and front. It is a face, it is a mask. If you look at, examine, person who has mask on himself, if you look his behind back, you begin to find there’s strings, knots, all kinds of things, which that you begin to realize that how he worn his mask; bundles of knots behind his back. That is the discovering the origin of pain, origin of suffering, is a mask-- exposing the mask, from this point of view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=224.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unmasking process is a very involved topic, this case, which is what’s called the second yana level, or pratyeka level. That the mask is based on trying to trace back our origin, of the original origin. That we would like to ignore ourselves as confused person, to begin with. Traditional image is given to this is the blind grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=351.0,439.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was the creator of the whole family, whole race. And she is also professional at the same time to relate with the whole function of games, ideas, objects, and so forth. But at the same time she’s blind. She can’t see what’s happening right *there*, right *now*, at this point. Blind grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=439.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we begin to realize blind grandmother principle, we also begin to realize that we are further creating karmic chain reactions, are ignoring quality of not taking care of the blind-grandmother-ness. And as further things happen, the further things happening, and that is image is potter, who makes pot, sculptural pot. And spins his potter’s wheel around, and throws mud, dull mud, on the potter's wheel. And according to the speed and according to the hand, the potter makes pots, pot, out of this speed, out of the feeling, which is the volitional action of karma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=478.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When we look behind that, our thingness, our embarrassment –- if I flash back what we are about to discuss, what we had been discussing is concerned, is that we have this thing hanging in our mind, our state of being, which is extraordinarily embarrassing and inconvenient. But we begin to realize that we also *ignore* that aspect of it, at the same time; if we look back, we don’t want to know about anything about it. We might say that, \"It is nothing to do with us. It’s not me, of course nothing to do with me. Somebody else's doing. She did it. He did it. I am clear. Only my duty is to stick to this thingness.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=574.0,642.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we expand ourselves beyond that, rediscovering our makeup, our particular state of being as such. Then we begin to explore further and further and further, having created karmic situations. We go through twelve chain existence of our basic makeup, beyond our thingness: ignorance, volitional action, consciousness, name and form, sense perceptions, touch, sensations, desire, grasping, and further grasping, which is copulation, birth, change, old age, and death. We are back to square one. We go through all those process with different images.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=642.0,756.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"According to Buddha, that all this map has been seen clearly, thoroughly, completely. According to Buddha, that he has seen, and as far as we know, according to Buddha’s teaching that we know that basic map, basic psychology of the origin, of that thingness is created around and around and round, birth, death, leading further birth; ignorance, and again karma and so forth. And a whirlpool that circling all the time. That is what’s called samsara. Circling ourselves around and around and around, that endless game. Each time when we look for the beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning, we create the beginning of the end. Each time when we look for the beginning of the end, we create the end of the beginning. Each time when we look for the end of the beginning we create the beginning of the end. So we go on and on. That’s what’s called samara, and constantly going around and round, trying to catch our shadow. And the shadow becomes us; us become shadow again. Constant circling. Endless game. Endless game after game after game, *and* after game. So many games, happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=756.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What we are discussing this point is hinayana experience of complete study of the four noble truths. And what we are discussing now is the second noble truth, which is the origin of suffering. Origin of suffering, our thingness, is circling the speed, which is-- origin of suffering is the speed, graspingness, recreating karma after karma. That seem to be the basic point here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=905.0,955.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's pretty ironical. Funny -- maybe. You could laugh at it -- such fool is taking place. It is very foolish thing to do. Isn’t it ironical? Isn’t it funny? Isn’t it *absurd*, actually? Ha ha! [Laughter] But it is *us* who’s ha-ha [laughs], and it turn out to be very grim, actually. [Laughter] You might think, \"Ha ha\", but it is not all that ha-ha. [Laughter] It is our psychological portrait, as Buddha discovered, which is–- happens to be highly accurate thing, scientific thing. Ha ha -- it’s very funny. [Laughs; laughter] What next? Your guess is as good as mine. Next after next. *And* next after next. What next? *Could* we get out of this? [Laughter] That’s another circle. Sure, we could get out of this. [Laughter] We could get out of–- we could get *out*, and we could get *in*, and then we could begin all over again. [Laughter; laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\n\"Tell us more.\" Sure. [Laughter] By telling us more, we could get into it, and we get out, then we could get into it, and again we could get out of it, and get into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=955.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And matter of fact, it is pretty scary, haunting, frightening. In fact, that there is no ground, actually, except speed itself. No ground; we’re going on and on. We could discuss next. And next is beginning of the next: giving birth to next thing –- volitional action, karma, pain, suffering, attach, desire, copulation, death, birth, old age, ignorant, all over again. All over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1158.0,1264.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Tell us about freedom, enlightenment.\" Sure, by all means. But then, all over again. You get out, you get in. You are liberated. You get into liberator's bandwagon. And you make journey, and you come back. You want to be victorious, win the war of some kind, all over again, all over again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1264.0,1336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are not making fun of samaric world, at *all*, at this point. We are taking the whole thing very seriously, ladies and gentlemen. This is a very serious matter. It is a life and death matter. It is *very* serious –- we are discussing about question of reality, question of freedom, enlightenment, buddhahood, if you could be so presumptuous as to say, mention such a word. We are talking about something is actually happening to us. But we haven’t touched the *heart* of the whole thing, actual *heart*, at all. What we have discussed so far is we have just discussed the nature of reality and the confusion that goes on all the time in us. \"And so what? You have nothing to say new?\" True. Take your fees back. [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1336.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So far, ladies and gentlemen, we have been so faithful, so honest, and we’ve been so much straight-faced. I appreciate your seriousness and long faces here, listening to me. That’s beautiful -- in a way. [Laughter] But on the other hand, it’s rather grotesque! [Laughter] With your long faces, trying to find out the enlightenment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1434.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From this chair I see a lot of faces without body. Serious faces. Some wears glasses, some wear-- doesn’t wear glasses, some have long hair, some have short hair. But it is *long* face. The faces made out of skull wall. [Laughing] I’m very [laughs]... Welcome you to be what you are. Nevertheless, *such* faces that I see here, or if we have a big mirror behind here, you could see *yourselves*, is that we been *so* honest, earnest, and everybody’s a true believer, every one of you-- every speck of glasses everybody's wearing, are true believer. Very cute [laughter] and nice, lovable, beautiful. I’m not making mockery of you at all. I appreciate your patience waiting for over-time, because a delay that happened before I give a talk and so forth, all kinds of things. You are hungry, and you want to eat afterwards, and all kinds of things. [Laughs; laughter] Probably you are not used to sitting down on the floor; you would like to have a nice comfortable chair. People like to sit on the floor because nice thing to do on the other hand, [laughter] and all kinds of things happens here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1489.0,1618.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But something that we haven’t actually *hit* here is actually the notion of *hopelessness*, at *all*. [Laughter] The hopelessness. There is no hope, none whatsoever, to be saved. Hopelessness. Let me define the word \"hopelessness\", at this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1618.0,1662.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hope is promise -- a visionary idea of glorified, glority, victory, colorful. The trumpets and flags, declarations of independence, and all kinds of things is hopeful. But, at the same time, wanted to find out the truth here. Having discussed all these twelve types of nidanas, chain reaction that goes on the time, *and* all the time, and all the time, we have *no* chance, absolutely none whatsoever. As long as we possess our body and our face here, our facade and our face, we have no way that we could get liberated at *all*; none whatsoever. [Laughs; laughter] It is hopeless as that. No hope. Absolutely no hope. That we are going to be drawn and drowned into the deep pool of shit, ocean of shit; [laughter] bubbling at the same time [laughter]. And gray in color, [laughter] smelly at the same time. We are drowning all the time. [Laughter] True. Hopeless. *Absolutely* hopeless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1662.0,1805.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We might think, \"I'm very smart; I think I’m extraordinarily smart. I read books about Buddhism. I read books about twelve nidanas, twelve chain causation of things, and everything. I have the answer. Maybe I read Guenther [laughter], who talks about the tantra, Naropa and Milarepa, his love story about Evans-Wentz. [Laughter] We read Meister Eckhart, who talks about beautiful things. And we also have read [The Teachings of] Don Juan, [laughter], and he talks about wonderful things, nature of reality. [Laughs; laughter] Read Krishnamurti, who talks very sensibly.\" Whatever. Hopeful, obviously. \"There got to be a way out somewhere. Somebody has to say something really good. And we-- there must be something-- this can't be true! [Laughter] There must be something out of this. [Laughs] Things can't be all that gray, hopeless.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1805.0,1918.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what authority do we have? We just read the books. We maybe have read... our friend also read the books. We begin to confer-- comfort ourselves each other. \"Hey, do you see that book, isn’t it great?\" \"Sure. Highly agree with you.\" So then we build up whole organizational society, and believing each other and every word said. [Laughter] We make ourselves feel good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1918.0,1964.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nevertheless, there’s no lineage. No lineage. There’s no authority. There’s no hand out informations of somebody else’s true experience. We have no idea whether Don Juan existed, not at all. It is possible that purely Carlos Castaneda’s trip. That he thought that us-- one of aspect of him is Don Juan, and he wrote this *whole* book. And for that matter we have no ideas that book called MEDITATION IN ACTION has actually written; it’s somebody else’s idea of what it should be. Whole thing's subject to question, *whole* thing subject to question. Is it possible those miracles be described in The Life [and Teaching] of Naropa, by-- translated by Guenther -- supposedly translated by Guenther [laughter] -- do we actually know that there is such person as Naropa *at all*? Meister Eckhart, a mystic, Middle Ages -- how do we know that there is such person as Meister Eckhart? And also, is it possible that what he said is true? If he exist. The Bhagavad Gita. Who took part in that war, between gods, and the wise wisdom come out of it. Instruction to fight, and the divine wisdom, wise way of fighting warfare. We have no idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=1964.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometimes one wonders who is fooling who. Who thought of the idea of enlightenment, actually? Who dreamt up God? Who proclaim himself as the god of Earth? It seems the whole thing is full of shit, actually, if I may use such a term, excuse me. [Laughter] Full of dung [laughter], excrement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2134.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All those questions that we have asked at ourselves; sometimes we ask such questions because we are really frustrated. We want to get something out of it. And sometimes we feel *slightly* relaxed, and we want to expose the *intrigue*, expose the trips, that maybe somebody's playing game on us. That is happening all the time with us, *all* the time with us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2280.0,2336.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But one thing that we haven’t actually come up with, real understanding of those trips actually happening with us, is because that we haven’t actually faced ourselves to *ourselves* and the notion of hopelessness, at *all*. That all of these messages in scriptures, textbooks, informations, magical display -- whatever that goes on -- is not going to help us. That this going to increase our grandmother principle, complete ignorant, grandmother principle. That we haven’t given up any hope at all -- *still* we are looking for maybe \"someone cheating me. Still there might be something in it.\" That seem to be our problem actually, this point. That nobody have actually given up hope of attaining enlightenment. And also nobody has given up hope of getting ourselves out of suffering, at all. That seem to be the fundamental spiritual problem that we have actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2336.0,2426.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we *should* regard ourselves as hopeless person. That is the first spiritual step that we could ever take. And this particular step is called \"path of unification.\" Is giving up hope -- hopelessness. And the first path is \"path of accumulation\", in which that you gather lot of materials around us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2426.0,2466.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And second path is called \"path of unification,\" which is giving up hope, totally giving up hope. And at the same time realizing our helplessness at the same time; that we’ve been conned by all kinds of these trips. All kinds of spiritual suggestions, all kinds of things; that we’ve been conned by our own ignorance. We’ve been conned by our own existence of ego as such at the same time. That there’s *nothing* absolutely ever. Only thing that goes on there is the karmic volitional action, which perpetuate our actions, our desires, our confusions. And that is called second path in connection with nine yanas that we’re going to discuss. Is path of unification.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2466.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason why it is called unification is because there is a sense of uniting *ourselves* with ourselves. To realize that there is a path, there is a goal, there is a practitioner of the path, but at the same time, all of those are just purely a stage prop, which is utterly hopeless. Fundamentally, fantastically hopeless, dramatically hopeless. That we have no way of getting out of this misery at all. Once we begin to begin to realize that there’s no way of getting out of this misery at *all*, we begin to realize that, we begin to make relationship with something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2532.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you end up in jail in a life sentence, we begin to decorate our prison cells with pinups [laughter] and graffitis, and make ourselves at home. And we might feel more gentle towards our prison keeper, the policemen or whatever. We begin to then enjoy the meal that be presented to us in prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2601.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that has been the problem so far, all the time that we have-- that we’ve been *too* smart, *too* proud. That, \"I want to stick my neck out *all* the time. That I don’t want to relate with anybody else; that I want to get enlightened. And those of you are 'poof' -- I'm going to be higher than you. [Laughs] And I don’t want to have anything to do with you at all.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2636.0,2669.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is because of slowing down our journey on spiritually. Is that prisoner begin to realize that he is begin-- he is trapped, in his twelve nidana, twelve causation imprisonment. *Then* he begin to relate much more, much more. And he begin to give birth of compassion, in his prison cell. And his existence begin to make sense out of what *is*.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2669.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I’m afraid it’s very, very, very depressing, but it is very heroic at the same time. That at the same time you have begin to be the drummer of the dharma, flying the flag of the dharma in your prison cell. There is fantastic is happening. The path of unification, from this point of view, of second path; taking *pride* in your prison cell. Realize that your prison cell is made out of walls -- this wall, that wall, this wall, and that wall. And you have simple floor, and you have simple meal. But those things becomes interesting, monastic situation. And from that point of view it is exactly the same thing as if you are in the monastery. If you’re in prison, are being the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2708.0,2780.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is why it is called the pratyekabuddha level, of the second yana, is pratyekabuddha which means \"self-enlightened buddha.\" That you care about your own environment, which is necessary, which is important. Which is very basic. And also it is very, tremendously fun. The fun of hopelessness is very powerful, fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2780.0,2884.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I’m afraid Buddhism is very boring, [laughter] extremely boring. And Buddhism is the only religion of nontheistic; maybe that’s boring. It doesn’t promises, or doesn’t permit anything at *all*. It only suggests that the basic necessity in which that we could work with ourselves, fundamentally, very simply, very ordinarily. But on the other hand it is very sensible. That you have no complain, once you get to the other end of the trip of Buddhism. It’s very definite.\r\n\r\n\r\nMaybe we could have discussions, if you don’t feel too depressed. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2884.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 1]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: It seems that one of the things you were saying about hopelessness, towards the end was that from that point of view of hopelessness, in a sense you can relate better to the teachings, the dharma. But then from another aspect it seems like the more you get involved with hopelessness -- or maybe it’s a different kind of hopelessness -- that you lose it, it seems like it takes away the inspiration for practice at all, for sitting. Or in terms of the teacher, if you see him as not being able to save you either, it takes away the inspiration for relating to the teacher.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What’s the problem?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER1: Well that seemed to me a contradiction. I mean, what you seem to be expressing was that from hopelessness, that was a way of making a true relation with the teaching. And what I was expressing, the aspect I was expressing of hopelessness, was that it was taking *away* the inspiration for any kind of practice, or any kind of relationship.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well hopelessness is getting into the teaching more. Because you have no choice. When we talk about hopefulness, we are talking about choices of all kinds. But when we begin realize there’s no hope at *all*, that we been talking about, you end up with yourself. And you could generate teachings, or inspirations of teachings within yourself, at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=2951.0,3085.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 2]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER2: What influences you to slow down, if you find yourself speeding very--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Because hopelessness, obviously. More you speed you get more frustrated. So there’s no point in speeding. So you are hopeless.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Rings gong]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3085.0,3111.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 3]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you distinguish between hopelessness and despair?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who said that? Can you raise your hand? Do I what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER3: Would you just talk about the distinction between hopelessness and despair?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well despair is still hopeful. [Laughter] And hopelessness utterly hopeless, you know, no ground to hang onto. You are completely wiped out. Therefore you might hang onto your being, basic being. Despair is a resentful attitude. You be despaired because you have retaliation of something or other. And hopelessness it's very genuine, beautiful, simple act. That you’re hopeless -- it's fantastic thing! You really *are* hopeless, you know, it’s-- there’s no trips about it. It’s clean cut. [Laughs; laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3111.0,3195.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 4]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Since this whole thing seems to shape itself like a game within a game within a game within a game, would you say that the very shrewd con artist is perhaps closer to this word that we use called \"enlightenment\"?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Very shrewd, what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: Con artist. Someone who’s not necessarily interested in ripping off other people, but is just enjoying himself. It's just about having a good time with the whole thing. Would you say that comes closer to what we call enlightenment?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Sounds contradictory. How did you get the idea? [Laughter] Con artist--?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: In the sense that all that happens is really what we make happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Is what?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: All that-- all it is is what we make happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER4: So that, say a person gets the sense, \"Well, that’s all there is, then why not have a good time?\"\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well it seem to be slightly different than that. It’s... it doesn’t seem to be the same philosophy as the naivety and carelessness of the Black musicians, Black jazz, whatever. \"When things happen, when things hap-- things don’t happen, so what? That the only thing we thrive is on the music-- in the music.\" Somewhat seem to be different from that. It’s not so much of carelessness and having good time, but it is *very* careful *and* not having good time. So it is seem to be-- whole thing seem to be different from the mentality of Black musicians. I mean the whole thing is very penetrating, very painful at the same time. That you aren’t thriving on anything at all. That is pain, that you don’t thrive on anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3195.0,3395.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 5]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: What is the state of a person's mind, practical and rational mind of a person who is experiencing this hopelessness, and goes [INAUDIBLE].\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you say that again? We want you to do it into-- in the camera. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER5: If a person is experiencing this hopelessness, where is their rational mind, that [INAUDIBLE]?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's true, their mind is been rationed. [Laughter] Fundamentally rationed. [Police siren sound] [Laughter] That they begin to realize that they-- everything is very economical. And a person who is on true understanding of hopelessness, is the highest, perfect, and real understanding of ecology, psychological ecology. Therefore his mind is been rationed. That he should reduce his any more feedbacks. Which is biggest of ecology trip that one can ever think of. That’s why it’s called hinayana; very practical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3395.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 6]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER6: Does this mean that a person has to experience a lot of suffering before he becomes completely hopeless? Or can it happen just on the spot? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I think both. Both. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3532.0,3563.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 7]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Rinpoche, on the-- when the mind starts being rationed, could it reach a point to starvation?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Absolutely not; that’s the whole point of ration. If you know that rationing means that save from starvation. That’s why you have rations, so that you don’t take too much, too little, so you be saved from your poverty, and your starvation. That’s the idea of rationing altogether.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: So you save--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I mean, that's obvious.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: You save a bit of the mind?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You save, at the same time you advance.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER7: Wouldn't it be wise to let go completely of the mind then?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But then you have a lot of pollution. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3563.0,3629.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 8]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: I was wondering, other teachers, like I think Buddha and other people have suggested that it’s a good thing to start on the spiritual path. And sort of encouraged people to start in the first place. And you seem to tell people that it’s full of shit to start. And-- which makes sense--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Full of shit, what, starve?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: To start on the spiritual path. [Laughter] Whatever you do, you know, it’s full of shit. Which makes sense to me. [Laughter] But I’m wondering, why...\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well Buddha, [INAUDIBLE] one thing. We should be very clear about Buddha, and that he wasn’t acting as a missionary. He wasn’t a Buddhist, himself, at all. [Laughter] Thank you. Anything else?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER8: Not really; I was just curious about the different styles of teaching that go on in different places. [Laughter] [INAUDIBLE] style which I--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, I mean, the merit of Buddhism is that anybody’s in real bad pain, psychological depression, dissatisfaction, that only result is Buddhism. And people are bound to come to Buddhism -- if I might beat my own gong. [Rings gong] [laughter] It is true, I do believe in that. If anybody's in *really bad* shape, [laughter] and need something really satisfy their-- or answering the meaning of their pain, will come to Buddhism. Because Buddhism is a nontheistic discipline, but still permeate wisdom at the same time. And I think that seem to be the basic point here. That suffering converts people into Buddhism. There is no-- you don’t need missionaries to convert people into Buddhism -- suffering does your job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3629.0,3799.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 9]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER9: Rinpoche? Since it makes no-- it would make no sense to try to give up hope because if you did that you would be hoping not to hope. How do you give up hope?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: You don’t. You are stuck with the hope. [Laughter] And then you’re disgusted with it. [Rings gong] [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nAny more questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3799.0,3865.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 10]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: The--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman over there.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Can I just--?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: The third [INAUDIBLE]--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Can you stand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Excuse me?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Over there, with the glasses?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Okay? [Laughter] The third noble truth is often rendered as the cessation of suffering.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Who’s saying that? Can you raise your hand?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER10: Okay. The third noble truth is often rendered or translated as the cessation of suffering. Is there any basis for that rendering?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, we can discuss tomorrow. Not quite cessation of suffering as such. Once you've realized the truth, that there could be a logical problem; that when you begin realize the truth of suffering and origin of suffering as truth, then you don't want to destroy the previous two truths, by discovering another truth. That seem to be suicidal. And discovering the third noble truth is cessation, which is something more than just cessation of suffering. Something more than that, which we’ll discuss tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3865.0,3960.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 11]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: If there’s no trick to giving up hope, how do you manage not to shoot yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Shoot yourself?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I don’t see the connections.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: When you are faced with being a fake, that seems to be... cause panic. For sure.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: But shooting yourself is creating more pain.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Not for long!\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER11: Not for long.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: How do you know? *How* do you know? I mean, the whole thing is, if you regard the body as a problem, obviously you might destroy your body. But what we discuss here is that our mind is the problem, this point. That you can’t get such gun to shoot our mind. Tell us if you found such a gun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=3960.0,4055.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 12]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: It seems as if you’re saying the only hope is hopelessness.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. That’s true. [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: That's a contradiction.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. Only hope is hopelessness. \"Only hope\" means that the ground, security is the only hope. Which is hope*less* -- that you have no ground. No, you don’t make yourself into target, anything at all, which is hopeless. That only hopelessness is that not providing yourself with a target.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: A what?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Target.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER12: Target.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. \"Tarrrget.\" [Says \"rrr\" with American accent] [Laughter; laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4055.0,4130.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 13]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn't that true because when you have no hope, you have no expectations? So you cease making judgements, so you like whatever you’ve got?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Could be said. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER13: Isn’t that the beginning of joy?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Let’s not rush too hard. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4130.0,4146.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 14]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Gentleman over there with a beard, at the wall, raising his hand? Yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER14: Hopelessness-- if mind and body are equal, if both are dropped, if mind and body are both dropped, hopelessness becomes... doesn’t become. So without hope and without hopelessness, would avoid--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Please don’t try too many angles. [Laughter] It is hopeless *straight*. [Laughter] You can’t get away-- you can't get around it. [Laughter; laughs] It will bounce back on you. That’s a good one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4146.0,4213.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 15]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER15: Is seeking mind of a pratyekabuddha still in the realm of hope?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: That's what we’re talking about tonight, is the mind of pratyekabuddha is hopeless. We got as far as to that, of the second yana. And the first yana is being acknowledgment of pain. Second yana is being a pratyekabuddha, realizing hopelessness. That realizing the hopelessness of the circle of samsara.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4213.0,4267.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 16]\r\n\r\n\r\nSPEAKER16: Does the experience of hopelessness always have to be painful? It would seem like after a while that you couldn’t keep the pain up, or the pain would change into something else.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: At the beginning it’s painful, but at the end it’s reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4267.0,4287.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 17]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: John?\r\n\r\n\r\nUNCONFIRMED JOHN BAKER: Do you have to realize the truth of your own death before you can become hopeless?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No. That your own death *is* hopeless. Goes with together. Your death *is* hopeless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4287.0,4313.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: QUESTION 18]\r\n\r\n\r\nDAVID ROME: Beginning of the talk you mentioned about discipline, that getting at the origin of pain involved discipline. Could you come back to that in a way, and tie it in with idea of hopelessness?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, to be faithful to your hopelessness is discipline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4313.0,4342.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: DORJE LOPON PRESENTATION ON MEDITATION PRACTICE]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: We might have to end our discussion tonight. Only thing I would like to introduce is that somebody who took part in the seminary, three-month seminary that we had in Wyoming, are-- meaning of meditation practice that involved with that. I think that’s connected with the seminar, third talk that I gave in Wyoming, and I would like to have somebody to brief on that, of the audience tonight. Anybody? [Laughs]\r\n\r\n\r\nAnybody? Eric? Anybody going to give their definition of meditation practice we discussed? Anybody? Is going, [laughter] is going... [James] Sacamano? Eric? Can you say something please?\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: Well, I don't-- which one of the twenty-five you gave?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: What?\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: [Laughs] You want something on the *third talk*? [Laughter] Is that what you said??\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Well, whatever that area, of hinayana.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: [Laughs] Well, do you-- like-- do you mean a basic description of our practice?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yeah. Would you like to come out here and use the microphone? Come on, you can do it. [Laughter; applause]\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: [quietly] You mean as if I were giving meditation instruction? [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: No, just say about basic idea of meditation [INAUDIBLE] practice, is being [INAUDIBLE] basic thing.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: [quietly] I mean, I’m not sure-- do what you want me to talk about emphasis on the out-breath?\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Speaking quietly] Mhmm.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: [Speaking quietly] You want me to talk about--\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: [Speaking quietly] Well, meaning of out-breath, yeah. And relate it with the basic practice.\r\n\r\n\r\nLODRO DORJE ERIC HOLM: Mhmm. [Laughter]\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, the fundamental technique of hinayana meditation practice that we’re usually given, is dealing with the breathing. Which is something very simple and ordinary that we have. Not that the breath has any mystical overtones of prana, or cosmic energy or anything, but it’s just ordinary breathing that goes on. And one simply identifies with the out-breathing, which represents a kind of relaxation of struggle, and a kind of letting go and a kind of opening to what’s there. And just accepting the awareness of what’s going on, in our body and mind without particularly struggling or particularly trying to change that.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt also involves giving up our yearning for constantly being entertained to do something. I mean, simply dealing with the breath is very boring. So that in that space, all kinds of neuroses and seeds of fantasies come up, and aggressive feelings, and emotional vividness that we didn’t notice before, just has space to churn out. And that goes on and on and on and on, and you sort of keep being with the out-breath. And your sense of being with the breathing is continually interrupted by daydreams, side trips you go on, until finally you get simply tired of-- you get tired of the trips. And then you get tired of judging the trips, and you just have this sort of boredom of space, of nothing particularly going on. Which is refreshing in a way because... you’re not struggling to do anything particularly; you’re just there, with your body and your breathing, and there’s a certain kind of sense of well-being, that you can tolerate the irritation when it comes up. But you don’t have to struggle with it particularly, and you’re just there, in a kind of refreshing, non-struggling way, which Rinpoche refers to somewhat as \"cool boredom.\" So the basic idea is just working with something very ordinary like breathing. Which we do naturally. And allowing space for our mind to play out what it has, and letting go of struggle. And dealing with the out-breath is sort of opening outward to what’s there rather than collecting something inward.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Unknown gesture or incident] [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4342.0,4784.0"},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87949/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[BOOKMARK: CLOSING REMARKS]\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: I would like to announce the meditation teachers for this particular seminar. That people who asked last night, and I would like to assure that prospective people, each time when I mention their names. And those teachers have been worked, and I have a personal relationship with them; that they’re competent teachers, that they have experience of teaching. And also experience of conviction of their own process, their individual basic being or whatever that is. And it would be good -- anybody who are newcomers to the seminar here who would like to receive instruction, particularly before the nyinthun tomorrow -- right, tomorrow?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: Thursday. Thursday.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Thursday, yeah. Would like to receive instruction, it would be good have. And those people have been instructed personally by me, and worked. And there had been some kind of experience as far as they're concerned. And they are basically people-lover -- people-lover opposed to them-lover, self-lover. So they are-- they care about you. People who would like to receive instructions from them is regarded as a personal friend. Here we go! [Laughter] These famous people here. [Laughter] Henry Schaeffer. Would you like to-- anybody would like to talk to him, [laughter] you know who Henry Schaffer is. And John Baker, here. John Baker, anyone would like to talk to him. And June Omura [later Crow]. Is she here? There she is! [Laughter] June Omura. And Eric Holm [Lodro Dorje]. And David Rome. Dave Rome? [Laughter; laughs]. Marvin Casper. Where is he?\r\n\r\n\r\nAUDIENCE: He’s not here.\r\n\r\n\r\nTRUNGPA RINPOCHE: He's not here. So we have to bring here tomorrow, here Marvin Casper.\r\n\r\n\r\nOkay, well I think it might be good to have some meditation instruction before you get into sitting practice, which is usually workable. But if anybody's such practices like Transcendental Meditation, or basic Zen sitting practice, or whatever; meditation that you’ve been following through, you’re welcome to use our time and physical situation -- please continuously do so. But this point of meditation instruction here is not regarded that you’re, what you’ve been doing in the past is being bad and not valid. That’s not the point. The point is you *do* need further encouragement of sitting practice by community sitting situation, and that you can-- you should work with it. That’s the basic point, is encourage you to sit with us, whatever your technique you’ve been doing. But the technique that we are presenting is suggesting that maybe simpler, of the simplest of all, in which that you might find further workable situation, and so forth. So that’s the basic point.\r\n\r\n\r\nAgain, as I've encourage you yesterday, last night, that part of this seminar is not so much of attending the seminar alone, but please try to sit with us. Take practice of meditation, group situation that we have created. If you don’t do that, you haven’t received the whole complete benefit of the seminar. You go back with the-- your head, your brain, is suspended with lots of shit. [Laughter] So, please try to sit with us, and meditate with us. That is one of the basic importance of it. And keep that in mind. Thank you. Wish everybody a good night.\r\n\r\n\r\n[Chogyam Trungpa Institute - Unedited Verbatim Transcript]\r\n\r\n\r\n[Copyright Diana J. Mukpo All Rights Reserved - Not to be Distributed or Reproduced]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070#t=4784.0,5121.6165"}]},{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87950","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["19731211VCTR1-Captions [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://cti.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2230/collection_resources/164322/file/299070/transcript/87950/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"TRUNGPA RINPOCHE: Yesterday\nwe 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